November 4, 2024 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain hold a People’s Court as listeners call in and vote on who to blame for the Seahawks’ offensive issues this season, then the guys listen and react to press conference comments from Coach Mike Macdonald.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go. We're back here at the
embro Queen Casino. Uh, we want to grab some of
your phone calls. Jump on the horn and tell us
because there's this big debate on social media. People clawing
each other apart, ripping each other's skins, yelling at each other.
It's not Gino. You're an idiot. It's the offensive line.
It's not the offensive line. You're a meadhead. It's Gino Smith.
You don't know ball right all over social media. You
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guys are stupid. It's not Gino. It's not the line.
It's the coaching staff. Ever watch a football game. All
that's happening on social media right now. So we thought
we would just let you guys saw it. Okay, you
guys can be the people's court right now at two
eight six ninety five ninety five or eight hundred and
eight two nine oh nine to five ozho, give us
a buzz and jump on and you tell us the
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number one reason why the Seahawk offense struggled yesterday is
that Gino Smith. Like Dick Faine thinks, is it the
offensive line? Like I think is it the offensive line?
Like Jackson Feltz thinks, is it coaching the way some
other people think maybe there's a fourth.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Ops and that we're not considering here.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So you tell me who should be getting the brunt
of the blame for the problems the Seahawks had yesterday
and they have had now for a couple of weeks.
Offensive line, Geno coaching whatever. Before we get to that though,
before we get the phone calls, jump on the horn
right now and tell us your thoughts, Geno Smith, after
yesterday's game with the media.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You know, first of all, I just want to really
start out apologizing to my teammates, really into the city,
to the organization. You know, they put a lot of
trust in me with with my decision making, and uh,
you know when they put the ball in my hands,
when when my teammates played the way they played today
and you know, give us a shot to win the game.
I got to make sure we do. And you know
the things I did today, mistakes that I made, you know,
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they they affected us negatively, and you know it really
cost this game today. You know, me knowing myself, I
know how much you know this is gonna hurt. I'm
gonna step it up though. You know that's how I
feel about it. I'm gonna step it up.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I appreciate that. I mean, that's that's what leader does.
I agree with everything he said.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
He cost him the game. He cost him the game.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I don't care how bad the offensive line was, Hey,
he cost him the game. As Hugh pointed out on
the Morning show today, that interception was a negative. We've
all heard of the expected points added, right, every play
has an expected points added. That play was a negative
twelve point five to seven.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Expected points added.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It was the second worst play of the season in
the NFL as far as EPA, and it would have
been the first play all of last season as far
as the expected points added. That play right there, where
he had plenty of time, cost them the football game.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, they also had a sequence, like I said earlier,
from late second quarter early fourth quarter, where they put
up almost two hundred yards of offense on three different
drives and had fourteen points. So I mean, I agree
that you can say the pick six cost them the game.
With the way the game flow went, it was a
fourteen point swing, seven going this one and seven going
the other way.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But I can see other people also.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Arguing, Hey, without Geno Smith, they're not even in that
game with the amount of pressure the guy was under
sixty percent. I think I saw of the passes he threw.
He was under pressure. Without him, they're not even close
to even winning the damn game. And yes, he made
the mistakes that cost them the game, but he also
made the plays to keep them in the game. And
then the defense, I mean, look, this is like the
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old the pitcher gets an error right and then.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Just falls apart.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Did the defense just get a pass for getting the
balls shoved down their throat in overtime? I don't mean, honestly, like,
do they just get a pass for that? For the
overtime drive? Because once they got stuffed on fourth down,
Matt Stafford took the ball and just shoved it right
down their throat. And if you say, hey, look, it's
just too much to ask for anything else, I could
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buy that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
But do they just get a pass for the way
the overtime.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
They made the stop, Geno gave it back, They made
another stop, Geno gave it back, they made another stop.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I mean, how many times do you now? Tarik Wolan
had a couple.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Really bad place right, he was really bad down the stretch,
But other than that, okay, I give almost zero.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
All right, blame to the defense for that performance.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yes, so you're saying, Gino, I'm saying relatively offensive line. Jackson,
you're saying offensive line correct? Is your number one blame
pie piece. Uh, let's go to the phone lines. Two
h six ninety five ninety five eight hundred eight two
nine oh nine to five.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Let's settle this once and for all, and then we
will never ever talk about it again.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, ever on this radio show. All right, get the
phone lines going, jump on the horn.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You tell us who gets the brunt of the criticism
two eight six ninety five ninety five and eighty nine
O nine to five.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh, will start with Eric, it Wouldenville.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Give us your thoughts.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
What do you think, guys? I think the blame pie
can be cut up in many different portions for number
of different parties. But there's no doubt in my mind
the offensive line has to take the brunt of it.
Is you the word if you used? We've been dealing
with this crappy offensive line situation for way too long,
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and it just never seems to get any better. I'd
like to see what Gino deserves something of the blame,
But let's face it, he was under pressure the whole
damn game yesterday, and to put up the numbers he
did was pretty good.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
I thought.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
I'd like to see what he could do with a
decent offensive line for a change, and see, I would
have to think he would be doing a lot better
and putting up a lot better numbers.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, I mean, you know, all quarterbacks would put up
better numbers behind a better offensive line, right, Like, there's
no quarterback out there who's gonna sayd gonna be worse
with a better offensive line.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I just think that the problem for the Seahawks is
that they've been dealing with this problem now for so long,
like in your mind's eye, and Eric, we appreciate the call.
That's a juror Number one says, the offensive line is
to blame. By the way, So I get more phone
calls in a second.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Does this just for yes or is this for the season.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I think it's more for yesterday, to be honest with you, Okay,
more for yesterday, But.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You know it's the season.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
If you want for the offense, yeah, if you.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Want to chime in and just give us the overall take,
I mean, you know, again, if the offensive line is
to blame for the overall season. And then Gino just
snapped yesterday and maybe tried to force some throes that
maybe he otherwise wouldn't have forced if he had a.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Better offensive line.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
This would be a question for you when he fills
on on Thursday, Dick, when I go to Penn State.
How much does this eventually just wear on a quarterback
when he knows he's not getting protection.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I'm looking at the last two and he was mentioned
he thinks QBR is the best metric to evaluate, right,
what a quarterback does got.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Him ranked zero to one hundred. Yeah, last week against
Buffalo out of one hundred, he was a nine point four.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
This week, Yeah, against the Rams, he was a twenty
point six.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
The bottom quartile. Right, two weeks in a row. I
mean it has been bad.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Sala's in Shoreline jur number two.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
We don't typically names of jurors, by the way, but
try to hide.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Your identity, but we're not doing that today.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
We want you to have the guts to say who
you are, or you can use an assume name.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Sal in Shoreline, you're on the ear, how are you?
Speaker 8 (07:11):
I'm sorry that Seahawks fell a long time caller, you
should know. But anyway, I'm gonna blame Schneider. I mean,
I don't know. Dick loves his step. Look up and
see how many of our offensive linemen are rated by PFF.
The top fifteen.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Got Charles Cross was one of them before yesterday. I
think he still is one of them, but he played
terrible yesterday. Charles Cross is the one Leon Schneider.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Can you know, pick great skill players? And but you
name me and not you name me a super Bowl
team that doesn't have a decent offensive line, and it'll
be the first one I've heard of. So that's all
I gotta say. The offensive lines all start there.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
All right, Seahawks, sal says the old line and Schneider
are to blame. Andy's an Olympia, you're he laughed. Okay,
how about Joe and Baffel Jurre number three, Joe and Bathel.
Who's to blame for this mess we saw yesterday?
Speaker 9 (08:07):
And overall?
Speaker 10 (08:08):
Tell us it's not Joe from Baco, It's Joe from Salmon.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Lesac j Jackson.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
O line.
Speaker 10 (08:20):
And here's the deal. Gino's Gino, right, And anybody that
says that they could get back there and do a better.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Job than Gino.
Speaker 10 (08:29):
We hate Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 11 (08:31):
Okay, he is what he is.
Speaker 12 (08:33):
But for the love of God, could they find a
blanking center, just a center for I just I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
They need help all over.
Speaker 10 (08:49):
The line is and can somebody please tell me what
exactly is wrong with Abe Lucas? What I mean, what
what is going on? I mean, I hear he's coming back,
and that's wonderful, right, but what's happening? So o line
eighty percent? Uh ten percent Gino and then ten percent
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Jack to Tara, Okay, brother Jack.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Jack Petra. Yeah, we are ripping the ghost of Jack Petera.
That that's how desperate we've become. Uh yeah, I mean
George Fant came back and played like seventeen plays and
got hurt against right then they had to go back
to Mike Jirell, who was just awful. You see, Mike
Jirell cost Jackson Smith and jigbout like eighty yards with
two holding calls yesterday he would have had two hundred
yards receiving if not from Mike Jirell.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
It was terrible.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
The call is exactly right, I mean, it is a
three word explanation.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Gino is Gino.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
He is the dictionary definition of an average starting quarterback
in the NFL, and when which is okay?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Which is okay?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yes, But if let's see this, I would rather have
if if Gino was was a dice, right, a die
with six sides, right right, you rolled Gino and you
have no idea whether you're going to get a one
or six, Like he could be horrific like he has
been the last couple weeks, or he can be a
six like he was against Atlanta. I would prefer a
quarterback that's maybe got a little narrower range of outcomes.
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Maybe his high end this isn't quite as great, but
his low end as far from a disaster like it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean, of course we all would prefer that, right,
Like when you're a junior in high school you wanted
a girlfriend with a thirty four double d rack, I mean,
who won want that?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
All of us want that. But who's that guy gonna be?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
There you go? Who's that guy? I mean, is it
a rookie?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Is it a free agent somewhere?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I mean, look, this is right now, I think as
good as well as the Seahawks can do at this position.
There's a chance they could draft somebody and go backwards
a quarterback. There's also a chance they could draft somebody
and take a huge leap at quarterback. I just know
this that no matter who that guy is, because we
we even saw the Chiefs with some pretty bad offensive
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lines in front of Patrick Mahomes for a while in
Kansas City. If you want to win and you want
to give a young quarterback a chance to thrive in Seattle,
you got to give the guy some damn blocket. No
matter who what's gonna be, whether it's Gino or I
don't know, give me a name of a guy, Dylan Gabriel, whoever.
In college football. They need to fix that, all right,
So Joe says on line, Lance is in Sumner jury
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number juror sorry, number four. We go to sunder Washington
and our friend Lance Lance speak up.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
How are you?
Speaker 10 (11:21):
It's definitely gotta be Geno.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
In my opinion, he's a veteran.
Speaker 10 (11:25):
He's thirty five years old.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
He's throwing two picks in the.
Speaker 11 (11:28):
Red zone that costs us the game.
Speaker 10 (11:31):
Yeah, if you're a young quarterback, you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Expect it, but not his age.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, got it?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
All right?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's one for Gino. How about Brian and Seattle. Brian,
you're on the air. You are jur number five. Who's
to blame for yesterday's debacle at Lumenfield.
Speaker 11 (11:47):
Well, overall, I give one hundred percent of it to management.
The fact that this line has been garbage for so long,
that's but as far as yesterday I gave it eighty
percent line and a couple of one of those snaps
he turned away. You know, it wasn't that horrible, you know,
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So he's but if he didn't have a middle of
the road quarterback, you better have a damn good line.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Appreciate the call.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, every general manager has got their strengths and
everyone's got their weaknesses. We've talked about that agnauseia in
the last six months with Jerry Depoto. We know what
his strengths are, we know what his weaknesses are, and
we know what now, John Schneider doesn't have as many.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Weaknesses as Jerry Depoto has.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
What the weakness he has at offensive line pretty big,
every bit as bad as the weakness that Jerry Depoto
has finding offense.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I would say you're right
that the off that the we talked about Mickey Loomis
all those years in New Orleans that just couldn't build
a defense. He had a good offense, but he couldn't
build a defense. And they finally built one and they
went to the damn Super Bowl. But he just they
they've tried for damn near fifteen whatever years, and it's
it's just it's it's an absolute hole in their DNA
that they just cannot do this. Uh, let's get two
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more and we'll get an official ruling.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Josh and Tacoma.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
We need one more after Josh at two, age six,
ninety five, ninety five, Josh, who's to blame for what
happened yesterday and this offense falling apart.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
I've got a lot of issues with Gino. I don't
think he's the man, but I mean it's that O line.
I mean, at this point, you know, the multiple snaps
over the head, stepping on its foot, everything else. I mean,
Gino at this point is probably seeing ghosts and everything
else and freaking out thinking about the contract because this
O line is just jack them up. And I honestly
don't know how many quarterbacks in this league could even
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play behind that offensive line. So it's got to be
the offensive one.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, and I think that we might be in Josh,
I appreciate call.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
We might be a little bit predisposed to criticize the
offensive line because of how bad they've been for as
long as they've been that we're like the Mariners don't win.
We riped the offense. Mariners don't win, We riped the
ownership for not buying free agents. Right, But it's all
I think, still factual. What do your eyes tell you
when you watch the game. What did your I tell
you yesterday that the offensive line was full of five
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guys that are going to the Hall of Fame? Of course,
not your eyes tell you that they're freaking terrible. So
I'm with Josh and that I just wonder, by the way, Dick,
and again, it's a question for you how much of
this is all in Gino's head and how much of
it is in Ryan Grubb's head when they put together
a game plan.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Well, that's why I'm confused as to why Ryan Grubbs
seems to have the same type of offense this year
with no offensive line that he had last year with
the Joe More offensive line, which means long, developing plays,
wide receivers, going deep down field, which plays to geno
strengths when he has time. But when he doesn't have time,
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there's got to be options shorter to the line of
scrimmage that either Ryan doesn't draw up or Gino just
slat misses him like he did.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
With ken Walker wide.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I was just gonna point that out that I think
it's really hard for us to sit here and talk
about stuff like that because I have no idea what
the checkdowns where I have no idea what Gino was
getting out of as part as far as getting into
who was open who wasn't. You know, you look at
the all twenty two and it shows you obviously all
that stuff. But yeah, I mean there's always outlets, right,
there's always outlets for these guys, and sometimes he's not
taking him. Maybe he's stubborn. I have no idea, but
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you you said it exactly. There there were times yesterday
where he had checked downs and he was turning down.
All right, let's get one more. We'll making an even seven.
LT's back from his bathroom break. When you gotta go,
you gotta go, LT and spanaway your jur number seven.
Tell us who's to blame for what's going on with
the offense man, go for it.
Speaker 11 (15:33):
I think it's the offensive line man, to be honest.
Speaker 10 (15:35):
I got a lot of respects for Gino.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
I know he's not perfect, but that guy gives his
heart and soul to this team.
Speaker 11 (15:41):
So I think the offensive line needs to bet.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
All right, Well, it's six to one the offensive line.
Offensive line got the brunt of the criticism for yesterday,
the brunt of the criticism for the season, and honestly,
I mean, I don't know how much better they can get, right, Like,
there's a point you get to in the season where
you kind of are what you are are, right. We
talked about this on Saturday's pregame show before the USC game,
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Dick that you know is U Dubb just not gonna
be very good in the red zone. And then they
went out and scored three touchdowns and four red zone
trips against USC. We'll see what happens against Penn State
and Oregon, obviously, but they did improve in that category
on Saturday. So Abe Lucas hopefully coming back, George maybe
not as banged up as we thought. But what's gonna
happen at right guard is empty Bradford all of a
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sudden gonna wake up and be John Hannah as Connor
William's gonna wake up all of a sudden and be
you know, give me a name of a great center, Robbie.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Tobek, right, I mean, honestly, like, are all I'm about?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Creede Humphrey, thank you we could have had.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You're just creating one problem and you're fixing another. You're
just taking one step forward and two steps back. So
is this just what they are? And do the Seahawk
coaches have to just accept that the rest.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Of the year?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
WHOA, I think we know Fans good. I think we
know Crosses good. And if Lucas ever were to play,
I think we know Lucas is good. Now can all
three of those play at the same time? I don't
think we have an answer to that. But as far
as the interior guys know, yeah, I mean you just
don't have you either are never gonna have the ability
with young guys like Bradford and Darrell and Ola with Timmy,
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or you don't have them yet because they're not refined
to develop players yet.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, how about is Christian Haynes.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
If you can't get on the field for Anthony Bradford,
I mean honestly, like, what the hell is going on
with this guy? How bad is this cat and practice
that he can't even see the field when Anthony Bradford's
turning into a freaking turn starts two.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Summers in a row. Unbelievable, Timmy last year and Haines
this year, that we just.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Drooled over the guy.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Man, this is how did we get to steal in
the draft.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Maybe we should stop drooling. I mean, number one, it's
disgusting and number two it's a total turnoff.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Man. All right, we'll gotta break.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We're gonna hear a little bit from Mike McDonald testimonials
as well.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Chiefs Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
The jury has spoken and the offensive line is to
blame for the problems the Seahawks have. Don't blame Gino,
they say, blame the offense line. Up on ninety three
three kJ r f M.
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Speaker 2 (18:17):
Who is that four year old on TV right now?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Oh my goodness, it's Tys Crooked Ben.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Ben somebody Jackson with ESPN, no idea next Ben's stats on?
That guy looks like he's ten years old.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Hell is that?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I'm waiting to hear a Ben dinner time?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I'm waiting til the guy's voice to crack. For God's sakes,
I like the Bucks tonight.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean, I honestly, if if Dixon brought that kid
home and said, Hey, this is a buddy of mine,
He's in my history, I would.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Totally, by absolutely somebody text us in and tell us
who the hell that guy is. I've often thought we
should do a segment with the wives. By the way,
I Get Get, Get, Get Get All three on the
air would rise up that Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
No, No, Wouldjanna be it for that? Sure? Gina would
definitely do it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
She's done it before, she's been so I think we
should try to talk to wives into doing a segment
because I think people really want to hear from them.
I don't, but I think the audience does. I'm scared
out of my mind to think what she would say.
But I got a text from the Peanut Gallery otherwise
known as Gina Gray Maller, who writes, all you bitches
are wrong. It's the head coach to blame. It's mental
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mistakes that comes from your coaching staff. I don't think
that dude exudes any confidence, like he knows what he's doing.
I get it's his first year, but come on, says
Gina Graymaller.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Spot freaking on.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Do you that I do not?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I don't know. And I've mentioned this before on the air.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
The fact that Jed Fish gets more criticism as the
Husky coach than either one of the coaches of the Seahawks,
either the offensive coach or the defensive coach, is kind
of weird to me because I think Jed Fish has
done a better job this year than either one of
the Seahawk coaches.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Because I think a lot of people think Jed Fish
is just here for himself.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I think that's I think that's the reason.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
But the fact of the matter is whether he's here
for himself or here for anybody else. He's trying to
make the Huskies really good, and he's doing everything possible
to make our favorite football team really good.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
So shouldn't we just enjoy that wall it lasts.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I don't think it's here for himself. I think it's
here for like a year, is what people think. And
I don't think he's gonna be here for a year.
I think he's here for a couple of seasons. But
and my problem with college football is that I just
don't know who's gonna be hanging around right right. I
mean like you're asking me to fall in love with
Demon Williams, fall in love with Kamori House, fall in
love with Lance hold squaw. Hey, if we can get
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some real excitement going, like let's say, for example, the
Huskies go to Happy Valley and they win Saturday, which
would be a huge win for them, knocking off the
number six team in the country, both eligible with half
a new roster and a bunch of you guys coming
back a year from now. Can you guarantee me they're
all coming back? No, But I think I hate about
this game.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
But if Jed, I mean, if the coach comes back,
a vast majority of the team coming sure you never
have a situation where you have the same coach and
thirty new guys.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, I agree with that, but I do think you
can lose some pretty pertinent players. You can lose two
or three guys that are really good to the free
agent market. So this has got to get under control
because I want to believe in these guys.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I want to believe they can get better as the
year goes by.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And I'm really curious to see what happens on Saturday
versus Penn State, because I agree with what you said
last week. The USC matchup was a better matchup for them.
It's not the corn fed bros on the offensive line
that shut us around because Iowa, this is.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Going back the other way. It is going back the
other way.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
That dude forty four for Penn State. Oh, I want
him on the Seahawks tight end. I want him on
the Seahawks tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, I talked to Jetfish today for an interview that
we're gonna run Friday, and he's the first guy that
he messed. I gotta watch forty four, man, gotta watch
forty everything. Yeah, well, I mean, look at what Lance
Hold squad did whipping Mason Murphy.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I'm the last driver of the game.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
You mean, the guy that moves early every single play.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Damon Williams took a hit from a linebacker that weighs
sixty pounds more than he does in Sam Green and
he popped up like it didn't even matter. I mean,
there was some really cool stuff in that game Saturday. Okay,
let's go back to the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
That's enough. That's enough positivity.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I want to talk more. We haven't gotten to him.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
We will at five. We will at five.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Mike McDonald with the media today after yesterday's disaster, starting
off with a question by our pal John Boyle.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Nine games and by we coming up kind of midway point,
Just where do you feel like this team is halfway through?
Speaker 13 (22:34):
We're on our way, We're on our way.
Speaker 14 (22:36):
We're it's not where we want to be, it's not
where we expected to be, but I feel.
Speaker 13 (22:42):
Like we are being where. I think we're resilient as heck.
I mean, our guys we face.
Speaker 14 (22:46):
I mean, you can just go week by week on
the adversity that we faced. A lot of it is
self inflicted diversity, and great football teams don't do that.
They eliminate drag. They go, you know, they go forward
fast together.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
We're going together. We're just not going fast, you know
right now.
Speaker 14 (23:03):
So it's our job as coaches to really eliminate that
drag and make it clear for the guys, and we
might you know, like I said last night, you gotta
have you got to go into these things.
Speaker 13 (23:12):
With mentality that everything's kind of on the table, you know.
Speaker 14 (23:14):
So that's that's you gotta open go with an open,
open mind, open open your lens up a little bit
and uh and go and go back to work. So
but our guys will, we'll talk to them here in
a minute. We'll meet today and then we'll move forward.
Speaker 15 (23:29):
What are you seeing the offensive line struggle with in
the run game, particularly in the short yarded situation that
believe seven runs and that rides on the last two
weeks that have doted zero or negative yards.
Speaker 14 (23:38):
Yeah, that's tough, I mean, and as coaches we need
to help them out as well. You know, it's not
just the players, it's it's everybody. It's everybody upstairs, it's
everybody on the first floor, players and coaches included. We
need to get more movement at the point of attack. Man,
it's just got to find it. Got to find a
dent in it and rock and roll. There's not a
lot of space when you got eleven guys in the box.
But the good teams figure out a way to get
it done. So that'll be that'll be a priority for
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us this week.
Speaker 15 (24:02):
Are the snap bears communication stuff or fundamental stuff or what's.
Speaker 14 (24:06):
Kind of a fix for It's both right now. So again,
that's something that we're going to be looking.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
At when you say everything's on the table, like is
that personnel, is that scheme?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Is that scheduled training?
Speaker 13 (24:15):
With all the above? I mean, I think we're doing
a lot of good things.
Speaker 14 (24:19):
If you go in kind of just with a myopic
view of it's only over here, then you might miss something.
Speaker 13 (24:24):
I don't I don't want to miss something.
Speaker 14 (24:25):
So let's go through it with a fine tooth comb
and let's be honest and let's go.
Speaker 15 (24:30):
Ton Schneider's talked about his philosophy on inter your offensive
line that might differ from others in the league, and
curious if you had a difference in perspective on what
you think the value of interior offensive line play, if
that's something you and John have spent some time talking about.
Speaker 14 (24:45):
Of course, Yeah, we're talking about how we're going to
build our football team. Every position is important, that's the
way it is. I mean, people been giving linebackers a
hard time. I feel like, you know, they're starting to
show their worth again of how important those guys already
football team in tier lines the same thing. So our
guys are fighting their their tails off, so we got
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to help them out and we got to execute better
and we got work together on it. So it's pretty
cut and dry.
Speaker 15 (25:12):
Lucas might play against San Francisco.
Speaker 13 (25:15):
There is a chance, yeah, and.
Speaker 15 (25:18):
Just everything still points out to DK being able to
be back against the Portiers.
Speaker 14 (25:22):
I don't want to, I don't. I gotta be careful,
I phrased this one, Bob. It's like, yeah, we're confident.
I know, it's it's a little bit more.
Speaker 13 (25:28):
It's frush. It's gonna be frustrating for DK and this guy.
Speaker 14 (25:31):
This guy's been healthy his whole career and then he
has something that is taking It just requires more time
than you know, even for a like an elite human.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
That he is.
Speaker 13 (25:42):
It's just just is what it is.
Speaker 14 (25:43):
So right now we're we're working through it and he's
doing everything he can to get back as soon as possible.
Speaker 13 (25:48):
But having the extra week will definitely help.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So you think the Hawks are in trouble in two
weeks at San Francisco, Yes, Okay. The last time the
Hawks lost six of seven was when Russell Wilson got
hurt and Gino Smith took off in twenty twenty one
and they lost six of seven. There was also a
bye week, by the way, built in there, just like
there is right now. So I like the fact they
have a bye I'm really curious to see what changes
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they make schematically.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
This is another good question for you on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
What do they do differently when they wake up next
week or two weeks in Santa Clara realizing they're going
up against the nine or front seven with a subpar
offensive line? What do they do they start getting rid
of the ball quicker? Do they command Jeter to start
hitting the check down more often? Do they put them
under center more often?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Please?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
What does Ryan Grubb do to take advantage of a
bad situation?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I don't know what he does, but you just gave
him a couple really good ideas, And you know, I
think McDonald and Grub should be criticized more than they
have been. That doesn't mean I don't believe that they
can't coach this team. I think they're rookies, and the
rookies have had some holes in their games. Now that
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being said, I don't think Mike McDonald's defense got out
coached by Sean mcmay's mcvay's offense yesterday.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
So that's that's a pro.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
That's promising when you go up against Sean McVay and
his offense.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
And you win that battle.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
And I think the Hawks defense won the battle overall
against the Rams offense. The problem is the Hawks offense
lost the battle so miserably against the Rams defense that
it didn't turn out to be a win. So eventually,
I think this coaching staff is going to get it
figured out.
Speaker 16 (27:29):
But to Gina's point, I mean Gena Gina's point, Hi, honey,
they have been super sloppy on a week two week basis,
and that has to go back to the coaching staff
for sure, no question.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Why don't we want to criticize him that much? Then
why would we not want to criticize him? Go ahead,
what do I care? But I think I don't hear
you criticize him. I'm criticizing criticizing him right now. They
were horrible, They're sloppy. Gotta get their heads out of there,
you know what's and have these guys playing better. I
think part of the reason we don't as often as
you do is because, as you said, they're both first
time guys taking over a brand new roster. They're both
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new head coaches, they're new coordinators, they're new offensive line coaches.
In the NFL, there's a little bit of a grace period.
I think that these guys get to install their culture
and their system before you really start clocking people, right.
I mean, there's there's veterans like Tarik Willans in year three.
Now we talk about Geno Smith wanting a brand new contract.
You know who else wants the fifth year option or
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excuse me, a brand new contract? Is Treik willin well,
and they're gonna have to decide after this year do
they want him going into his fourth and final year
or do they.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Want to sign him to a new contract. Right now,
he's not looking like he deserves it.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Quid getting pis not catching interceptions and getting burned for
winning touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Stop doing that right now We're gonna break
All right, here we go. We're back here at the
embro Queen Casino. Uh, we want to grab some of
your phone calls. Jump on the horn and tell us
because there's this big debate on social media. People clawing
each other apart, ripping each other's skins, yelling at each other.
It's not Gino. You're an idiot. It's the offensive line.
It's not the offensive line. You're a meadhead. It's Gino Smith.
You don't know ball right all over social media. You
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guys are stupid. It's not Gino. It's not the line.
It's the coaching staff. Ever watch a football game. All
that's happening on social media right now. So we thought
we would just let you guys saw it. Okay, you
guys can be the people's court right now at two
eight six ninety five ninety five or eight hundred and
eight two nine oh nine to five ozho, give us
a buzz and jump on and you tell us the
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number one reason why the Seahawk offense struggled yesterday is
that Gino Smith. Like Dick Faine thinks, is it the
offensive line? Like I think is it the offensive line?
Like Jackson Feltz thinks, is it coaching the way some
other people think maybe there's a fourth.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Ops and that we're not considering here.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So you tell me who should be getting the brunt
of the blame for the problems the Seahawks had yesterday
and they have had now for a couple of weeks.
Offensive line, Geno coaching whatever. Before we get to that though,
before we get the phone calls, jump on the horn
right now and tell us your thoughts, Geno Smith, after
yesterday's game with the media.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You know, first of all, I just want to really
start out apologizing to my teammates, really into the city,
to the organization. You know, they put a lot of
trust in me with with my decision making, and uh,
you know when they put the ball in my hands,
when when my teammates played the way they played today
and you know, give us a shot to win the game.
I got to make sure we do. And you know
the things I did today, mistakes that I made, you know,
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they they affected us negatively, and you know it really
cost this game today. You know, me knowing myself, I
know how much you know this is gonna hurt. I'm
gonna step it up though. You know that's how I
feel about it. I'm gonna step it up.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I appreciate that. I mean, that's that's what leader does.
I agree with everything he said.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
He cost him the game. He cost him the game.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I don't care how bad the offensive line was, Hey,
he cost him the game. As Hugh pointed out on
the Morning show today, that interception was a negative. We've
all heard of the expected points added, right, every play
has an expected points added. That play was a negative
twelve point five to seven.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Expected points added.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It was the second worst play of the season in
the NFL as far as EPA, and it would have
been the first play all of last season as far
as the expected points added. That play right there, where
he had plenty of time, cost them the football game.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, they also had a sequence, like I said earlier,
from late second quarter early fourth quarter, where they put
up almost two hundred yards of offense on three different
drives and had fourteen points. So I mean, I agree
that you can say the pick six cost them the game.
With the way the game flow went, it was a
fourteen point swing, seven going this one and seven going
the other way.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But I can see other people also.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Arguing, Hey, without Geno Smith, they're not even in that
game with the amount of pressure the guy was under
sixty percent. I think I saw of the passes he threw.
He was under pressure. Without him, they're not even close
to even winning the damn game. And yes, he made
the mistakes that cost them the game, but he also
made the plays to keep them in the game. And
then the defense, I mean, look, this is like the
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old the pitcher gets an error right and then.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Just falls apart.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Did the defense just get a pass for getting the
balls shoved down their throat in overtime? I don't mean, honestly, like,
do they just get a pass for that? For the
overtime drive? Because once they got stuffed on fourth down,
Matt Stafford took the ball and just shoved it right
down their throat. And if you say, hey, look, it's
just too much to ask for anything else, I could
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buy that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
But do they just get a pass for the way
the overtime.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
They made the stop, Geno gave it back, They made
another stop, Geno gave it back, they made another stop.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I mean, how many times do you now? Tarik Wolan
had a couple.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Really bad place right, he was really bad down the stretch,
But other than that, okay, I give almost zero.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
All right, blame to the defense for that performance.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yes, so you're saying, Gino, I'm saying relatively offensive line. Jackson,
you're saying offensive line correct? Is your number one blame
pie piece. Uh, let's go to the phone lines. Two
h six ninety five ninety five eight hundred eight two
nine oh nine to five.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Let's settle this once and for all, and then we
will never ever talk about it again.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, ever on this radio show. All right, get the
phone lines going, jump on the horn.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You tell us who gets the brunt of the criticism
two eight six ninety five ninety five and eighty nine
O nine to five.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh, will start with Eric, it Wouldenville.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Give us your thoughts.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
What do you think, guys? I think the blame pie
can be cut up in many different portions for number
of different parties. But there's no doubt in my mind
the offensive line has to take the brunt of it.
Is you the word if you used? We've been dealing
with this crappy offensive line situation for way too long,
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and it just never seems to get any better. I'd
like to see what Gino deserves something of the blame,
But let's face it, he was under pressure the whole
damn game yesterday, and to put up the numbers he
did was pretty good.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
I thought.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
I'd like to see what he could do with a
decent offensive line for a change, and see, I would
have to think he would be doing a lot better
and putting up a lot better numbers.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, I mean, you know, all quarterbacks would put up
better numbers behind a better offensive line, right, Like, there's
no quarterback out there who's gonna sayd gonna be worse
with a better offensive line.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I just think that the problem for the Seahawks is
that they've been dealing with this problem now for so long,
like in your mind's eye, and Eric, we appreciate the call.
That's a juror Number one says, the offensive line is
to blame. By the way, So I get more phone
calls in a second.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Does this just for yes or is this for the season.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I think it's more for yesterday, to be honest with you, Okay,
more for yesterday, But.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You know it's the season.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
If you want for the offense, yeah, if you.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Want to chime in and just give us the overall take,
I mean, you know, again, if the offensive line is
to blame for the overall season. And then Gino just
snapped yesterday and maybe tried to force some throes that
maybe he otherwise wouldn't have forced if he had a.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Better offensive line.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
This would be a question for you when he fills
on on Thursday, Dick, when I go to Penn State.
How much does this eventually just wear on a quarterback
when he knows he's not getting protection.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I'm looking at the last two and he was mentioned
he thinks QBR is the best metric to evaluate, right,
what a quarterback does got.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Him ranked zero to one hundred. Yeah, last week against
Buffalo out of one hundred, he was a nine point four.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
This week, Yeah, against the Rams, he was a twenty
point six.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
The bottom quartile. Right, two weeks in a row. I
mean it has been bad.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Sala's in Shoreline jur number two.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
We don't typically names of jurors, by the way, but
try to hide.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Your identity, but we're not doing that today.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
We want you to have the guts to say who
you are, or you can use an assume name.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Sal in Shoreline, you're on the ear, how are you?
Speaker 8 (07:11):
I'm sorry that Seahawks fell a long time caller, you
should know. But anyway, I'm gonna blame Schneider. I mean,
I don't know. Dick loves his step. Look up and
see how many of our offensive linemen are rated by PFF.
The top fifteen.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Got Charles Cross was one of them before yesterday. I
think he still is one of them, but he played
terrible yesterday. Charles Cross is the one Leon Schneider.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Can you know, pick great skill players? And but you
name me and not you name me a super Bowl
team that doesn't have a decent offensive line, and it'll
be the first one I've heard of. So that's all
I gotta say. The offensive lines all start there.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
All right, Seahawks, sal says the old line and Schneider
are to blame. Andy's an Olympia, you're he laughed. Okay,
how about Joe and Baffel Jurre number three, Joe and Bathel.
Who's to blame for this mess we saw yesterday?
Speaker 9 (08:07):
And overall?
Speaker 10 (08:08):
Tell us it's not Joe from Baco, It's Joe from Salmon.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Lesac j Jackson.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
O line.
Speaker 10 (08:20):
And here's the deal. Gino's Gino, right, And anybody that
says that they could get back there and do a better.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Job than Gino.
Speaker 10 (08:29):
We hate Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 11 (08:31):
Okay, he is what he is.
Speaker 12 (08:33):
But for the love of God, could they find a
blanking center, just a center for I just I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
They need help all over.
Speaker 10 (08:49):
The line is and can somebody please tell me what
exactly is wrong with Abe Lucas? What I mean, what
what is going on? I mean, I hear he's coming back,
and that's wonderful, right, but what's happening? So o line
eighty percent? Uh ten percent Gino and then ten percent
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Jack to Tara, Okay, brother Jack.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Jack Petra. Yeah, we are ripping the ghost of Jack Petera.
That that's how desperate we've become. Uh yeah, I mean
George Fant came back and played like seventeen plays and
got hurt against right then they had to go back
to Mike Jirell, who was just awful. You see, Mike
Jirell cost Jackson Smith and jigbout like eighty yards with
two holding calls yesterday he would have had two hundred
yards receiving if not from Mike Jirell.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
It was terrible.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
The call is exactly right, I mean, it is a
three word explanation.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Gino is Gino.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
He is the dictionary definition of an average starting quarterback
in the NFL, and when which is okay?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Which is okay?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yes, But if let's see this, I would rather have
if if Gino was was a dice, right, a die
with six sides, right right, you rolled Gino and you
have no idea whether you're going to get a one
or six, Like he could be horrific like he has
been the last couple weeks, or he can be a
six like he was against Atlanta. I would prefer a
quarterback that's maybe got a little narrower range of outcomes.
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Maybe his high end this isn't quite as great, but
his low end as far from a disaster like it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean, of course we all would prefer that, right,
Like when you're a junior in high school you wanted
a girlfriend with a thirty four double d rack, I mean,
who won want that?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
All of us want that. But who's that guy gonna be?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
There you go? Who's that guy? I mean, is it
a rookie?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Is it a free agent somewhere?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I mean, look, this is right now, I think as
good as well as the Seahawks can do at this position.
There's a chance they could draft somebody and go backwards
a quarterback. There's also a chance they could draft somebody
and take a huge leap at quarterback. I just know
this that no matter who that guy is, because we
we even saw the Chiefs with some pretty bad offensive
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lines in front of Patrick Mahomes for a while in
Kansas City. If you want to win and you want
to give a young quarterback a chance to thrive in Seattle,
you got to give the guy some damn blocket. No
matter who what's gonna be, whether it's Gino or I
don't know, give me a name of a guy, Dylan Gabriel, whoever.
In college football. They need to fix that, all right,
So Joe says on line, Lance is in Sumner jury
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number juror sorry, number four. We go to sunder Washington
and our friend Lance Lance speak up.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
How are you?
Speaker 10 (11:21):
It's definitely gotta be Geno.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
In my opinion, he's a veteran.
Speaker 10 (11:25):
He's thirty five years old.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
He's throwing two picks in the.
Speaker 11 (11:28):
Red zone that costs us the game.
Speaker 10 (11:31):
Yeah, if you're a young quarterback, you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Expect it, but not his age.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, got it?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
All right?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's one for Gino. How about Brian and Seattle. Brian,
you're on the air. You are jur number five. Who's
to blame for yesterday's debacle at Lumenfield.
Speaker 11 (11:47):
Well, overall, I give one hundred percent of it to management.
The fact that this line has been garbage for so long,
that's but as far as yesterday I gave it eighty
percent line and a couple of one of those snaps
he turned away. You know, it wasn't that horrible, you know,
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So he's but if he didn't have a middle of
the road quarterback, you better have a damn good line.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Appreciate the call.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, every general manager has got their strengths and
everyone's got their weaknesses. We've talked about that agnauseia in
the last six months with Jerry Depoto. We know what
his strengths are, we know what his weaknesses are, and
we know what now, John Schneider doesn't have as many.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Weaknesses as Jerry Depoto has.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
What the weakness he has at offensive line pretty big,
every bit as bad as the weakness that Jerry Depoto
has finding offense.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I would say you're right
that the off that the we talked about Mickey Loomis
all those years in New Orleans that just couldn't build
a defense. He had a good offense, but he couldn't
build a defense. And they finally built one and they
went to the damn Super Bowl. But he just they
they've tried for damn near fifteen whatever years, and it's
it's just it's it's an absolute hole in their DNA
that they just cannot do this. Uh, let's get two
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more and we'll get an official ruling.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Josh and Tacoma.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
We need one more after Josh at two, age six,
ninety five, ninety five, Josh, who's to blame for what
happened yesterday and this offense falling apart.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
I've got a lot of issues with Gino. I don't
think he's the man, but I mean it's that O line.
I mean, at this point, you know, the multiple snaps
over the head, stepping on its foot, everything else. I mean,
Gino at this point is probably seeing ghosts and everything
else and freaking out thinking about the contract because this
O line is just jack them up. And I honestly
don't know how many quarterbacks in this league could even
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play behind that offensive line. So it's got to be
the offensive one.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, and I think that we might be in Josh,
I appreciate call.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
We might be a little bit predisposed to criticize the
offensive line because of how bad they've been for as
long as they've been that we're like the Mariners don't win.
We riped the offense. Mariners don't win, We riped the
ownership for not buying free agents. Right, But it's all
I think, still factual. What do your eyes tell you
when you watch the game. What did your I tell
you yesterday that the offensive line was full of five
(14:03):
guys that are going to the Hall of Fame? Of course,
not your eyes tell you that they're freaking terrible. So
I'm with Josh and that I just wonder, by the way, Dick,
and again, it's a question for you how much of
this is all in Gino's head and how much of
it is in Ryan Grubb's head when they put together
a game plan.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Well, that's why I'm confused as to why Ryan Grubbs
seems to have the same type of offense this year
with no offensive line that he had last year with
the Joe More offensive line, which means long, developing plays,
wide receivers, going deep down field, which plays to geno
strengths when he has time. But when he doesn't have time,
(14:41):
there's got to be options shorter to the line of
scrimmage that either Ryan doesn't draw up or Gino just
slat misses him like he did.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
With ken Walker wide.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I was just gonna point that out that I think
it's really hard for us to sit here and talk
about stuff like that because I have no idea what
the checkdowns where I have no idea what Gino was
getting out of as part as far as getting into
who was open who wasn't. You know, you look at
the all twenty two and it shows you obviously all
that stuff. But yeah, I mean there's always outlets, right,
there's always outlets for these guys, and sometimes he's not
taking him. Maybe he's stubborn. I have no idea, but
(15:14):
you you said it exactly. There there were times yesterday
where he had checked downs and he was turning down.
All right, let's get one more. We'll making an even seven.
LT's back from his bathroom break. When you gotta go,
you gotta go, LT and spanaway your jur number seven.
Tell us who's to blame for what's going on with
the offense man, go for it.
Speaker 11 (15:33):
I think it's the offensive line man, to be honest.
Speaker 10 (15:35):
I got a lot of respects for Gino.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
I know he's not perfect, but that guy gives his
heart and soul to this team.
Speaker 11 (15:41):
So I think the offensive line needs to bet.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
All right, Well, it's six to one the offensive line.
Offensive line got the brunt of the criticism for yesterday,
the brunt of the criticism for the season, and honestly,
I mean, I don't know how much better they can get, right, Like,
there's a point you get to in the season where
you kind of are what you are are, right. We
talked about this on Saturday's pregame show before the USC game,
(16:05):
Dick that you know is U Dubb just not gonna
be very good in the red zone. And then they
went out and scored three touchdowns and four red zone
trips against USC. We'll see what happens against Penn State
and Oregon, obviously, but they did improve in that category
on Saturday. So Abe Lucas hopefully coming back, George maybe
not as banged up as we thought. But what's gonna
happen at right guard is empty Bradford all of a
(16:26):
sudden gonna wake up and be John Hannah as Connor
William's gonna wake up all of a sudden and be
you know, give me a name of a great center, Robbie.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Tobek, right, I mean, honestly, like, are all I'm about?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Creede Humphrey, thank you we could have had.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You're just creating one problem and you're fixing another. You're
just taking one step forward and two steps back. So
is this just what they are? And do the Seahawk
coaches have to just accept that the rest.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Of the year?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
WHOA, I think we know Fans good. I think we
know Crosses good. And if Lucas ever were to play,
I think we know Lucas is good. Now can all
three of those play at the same time? I don't
think we have an answer to that. But as far
as the interior guys know, yeah, I mean you just
don't have you either are never gonna have the ability
with young guys like Bradford and Darrell and Ola with Timmy,
(17:15):
or you don't have them yet because they're not refined
to develop players yet.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, how about is Christian Haynes.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
If you can't get on the field for Anthony Bradford,
I mean honestly, like, what the hell is going on
with this guy? How bad is this cat and practice
that he can't even see the field when Anthony Bradford's
turning into a freaking turn starts two.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Summers in a row. Unbelievable, Timmy last year and Haines
this year, that we just.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Drooled over the guy.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Man, this is how did we get to steal in
the draft.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Maybe we should stop drooling. I mean, number one, it's
disgusting and number two it's a total turnoff.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Man. All right, we'll gotta break.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We're gonna hear a little bit from Mike McDonald testimonials
as well.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Chiefs Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
The jury has spoken and the offensive line is to
blame for the problems the Seahawks have. Don't blame Gino,
they say, blame the offense line. Up on ninety three
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Speaker 2 (18:17):
Who is that four year old on TV right now?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Oh my goodness, it's Tys Crooked Ben.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Ben somebody Jackson with ESPN, no idea next Ben's stats on?
That guy looks like he's ten years old.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Hell is that?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I'm waiting to hear a Ben dinner time?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I'm waiting til the guy's voice to crack. For God's sakes,
I like the Bucks tonight.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean, I honestly, if if Dixon brought that kid
home and said, Hey, this is a buddy of mine,
He's in my history, I would.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Totally, by absolutely somebody text us in and tell us
who the hell that guy is. I've often thought we
should do a segment with the wives. By the way,
I Get Get, Get, Get Get All three on the
air would rise up that Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
No, No, Wouldjanna be it for that? Sure? Gina would
definitely do it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
She's done it before, she's been so I think we
should try to talk to wives into doing a segment
because I think people really want to hear from them.
I don't, but I think the audience does. I'm scared
out of my mind to think what she would say.
But I got a text from the Peanut Gallery otherwise
known as Gina Gray Maller, who writes, all you bitches
are wrong. It's the head coach to blame. It's mental
(19:27):
mistakes that comes from your coaching staff. I don't think
that dude exudes any confidence, like he knows what he's doing.
I get it's his first year, but come on, says
Gina Graymaller.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Spot freaking on.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Do you that I do not?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I don't know. And I've mentioned this before on the air.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
The fact that Jed Fish gets more criticism as the
Husky coach than either one of the coaches of the Seahawks,
either the offensive coach or the defensive coach, is kind
of weird to me because I think Jed Fish has
done a better job this year than either one of
the Seahawk coaches.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Because I think a lot of people think Jed Fish
is just here for himself.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I think that's I think that's the reason.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
But the fact of the matter is whether he's here
for himself or here for anybody else. He's trying to
make the Huskies really good, and he's doing everything possible
to make our favorite football team really good.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
So shouldn't we just enjoy that wall it lasts.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I don't think it's here for himself. I think it's
here for like a year, is what people think. And
I don't think he's gonna be here for a year.
I think he's here for a couple of seasons. But
and my problem with college football is that I just
don't know who's gonna be hanging around right right. I
mean like you're asking me to fall in love with
Demon Williams, fall in love with Kamori House, fall in
love with Lance hold squaw. Hey, if we can get
(20:47):
some real excitement going, like let's say, for example, the
Huskies go to Happy Valley and they win Saturday, which
would be a huge win for them, knocking off the
number six team in the country, both eligible with half
a new roster and a bunch of you guys coming
back a year from now. Can you guarantee me they're
all coming back? No, But I think I hate about
this game.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
But if Jed, I mean, if the coach comes back,
a vast majority of the team coming sure you never
have a situation where you have the same coach and
thirty new guys.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, I agree with that, but I do think you
can lose some pretty pertinent players. You can lose two
or three guys that are really good to the free
agent market. So this has got to get under control
because I want to believe in these guys.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I want to believe they can get better as the
year goes by.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And I'm really curious to see what happens on Saturday
versus Penn State, because I agree with what you said
last week. The USC matchup was a better matchup for them.
It's not the corn fed bros on the offensive line
that shut us around because Iowa, this is.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Going back the other way. It is going back the
other way.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
That dude forty four for Penn State. Oh, I want
him on the Seahawks tight end. I want him on
the Seahawks tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, I talked to Jetfish today for an interview that
we're gonna run Friday, and he's the first guy that
he messed. I gotta watch forty four, man, gotta watch
forty everything. Yeah, well, I mean, look at what Lance
Hold squad did whipping Mason Murphy.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I'm the last driver of the game.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
You mean, the guy that moves early every single play.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Damon Williams took a hit from a linebacker that weighs
sixty pounds more than he does in Sam Green and
he popped up like it didn't even matter. I mean,
there was some really cool stuff in that game Saturday. Okay,
let's go back to the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
That's enough. That's enough positivity.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I want to talk more. We haven't gotten to him.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
We will at five. We will at five.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Mike McDonald with the media today after yesterday's disaster, starting
off with a question by our pal John Boyle.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Nine games and by we coming up kind of midway point,
Just where do you feel like this team is halfway through?
Speaker 13 (22:34):
We're on our way, We're on our way.
Speaker 14 (22:36):
We're it's not where we want to be, it's not
where we expected to be, but I feel.
Speaker 13 (22:42):
Like we are being where. I think we're resilient as heck.
I mean, our guys we face.
Speaker 14 (22:46):
I mean, you can just go week by week on
the adversity that we faced. A lot of it is
self inflicted diversity, and great football teams don't do that.
They eliminate drag. They go, you know, they go forward
fast together.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
We're going together. We're just not going fast, you know
right now.
Speaker 14 (23:03):
So it's our job as coaches to really eliminate that
drag and make it clear for the guys, and we
might you know, like I said last night, you gotta
have you got to go into these things.
Speaker 13 (23:12):
With mentality that everything's kind of on the table, you know.
Speaker 14 (23:14):
So that's that's you gotta open go with an open,
open mind, open open your lens up a little bit
and uh and go and go back to work. So
but our guys will, we'll talk to them here in
a minute. We'll meet today and then we'll move forward.
Speaker 15 (23:29):
What are you seeing the offensive line struggle with in
the run game, particularly in the short yarded situation that
believe seven runs and that rides on the last two
weeks that have doted zero or negative yards.
Speaker 14 (23:38):
Yeah, that's tough, I mean, and as coaches we need
to help them out as well. You know, it's not
just the players, it's it's everybody. It's everybody upstairs, it's
everybody on the first floor, players and coaches included. We
need to get more movement at the point of attack. Man,
it's just got to find it. Got to find a
dent in it and rock and roll. There's not a
lot of space when you got eleven guys in the box.
But the good teams figure out a way to get
it done. So that'll be that'll be a priority for
(24:00):
us this week.
Speaker 15 (24:02):
Are the snap bears communication stuff or fundamental stuff or what's.
Speaker 14 (24:06):
Kind of a fix for It's both right now. So again,
that's something that we're going to be looking.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
At when you say everything's on the table, like is
that personnel, is that scheme?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Is that scheduled training?
Speaker 13 (24:15):
With all the above? I mean, I think we're doing
a lot of good things.
Speaker 14 (24:19):
If you go in kind of just with a myopic
view of it's only over here, then you might miss something.
Speaker 13 (24:24):
I don't I don't want to miss something.
Speaker 14 (24:25):
So let's go through it with a fine tooth comb
and let's be honest and let's go.
Speaker 15 (24:30):
Ton Schneider's talked about his philosophy on inter your offensive
line that might differ from others in the league, and
curious if you had a difference in perspective on what
you think the value of interior offensive line play, if
that's something you and John have spent some time talking about.
Speaker 14 (24:45):
Of course, Yeah, we're talking about how we're going to
build our football team. Every position is important, that's the
way it is. I mean, people been giving linebackers a
hard time. I feel like, you know, they're starting to
show their worth again of how important those guys already
football team in tier lines the same thing. So our
guys are fighting their their tails off, so we got
(25:05):
to help them out and we got to execute better
and we got work together on it. So it's pretty
cut and dry.
Speaker 15 (25:12):
Lucas might play against San Francisco.
Speaker 13 (25:15):
There is a chance, yeah, and.
Speaker 15 (25:18):
Just everything still points out to DK being able to
be back against the Portiers.
Speaker 14 (25:22):
I don't want to, I don't. I gotta be careful,
I phrased this one, Bob. It's like, yeah, we're confident.
I know, it's it's a little bit more.
Speaker 13 (25:28):
It's frush. It's gonna be frustrating for DK and this guy.
Speaker 14 (25:31):
This guy's been healthy his whole career and then he
has something that is taking It just requires more time
than you know, even for a like an elite human.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
That he is.
Speaker 13 (25:42):
It's just just is what it is.
Speaker 14 (25:43):
So right now we're we're working through it and he's
doing everything he can to get back as soon as possible.
Speaker 13 (25:48):
But having the extra week will definitely help.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So you think the Hawks are in trouble in two
weeks at San Francisco, Yes, Okay. The last time the
Hawks lost six of seven was when Russell Wilson got
hurt and Gino Smith took off in twenty twenty one
and they lost six of seven. There was also a
bye week, by the way, built in there, just like
there is right now. So I like the fact they
have a bye I'm really curious to see what changes
(26:13):
they make schematically.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
This is another good question for you on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
What do they do differently when they wake up next
week or two weeks in Santa Clara realizing they're going
up against the nine or front seven with a subpar
offensive line? What do they do they start getting rid
of the ball quicker? Do they command Jeter to start
hitting the check down more often? Do they put them
under center more often?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Please?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
What does Ryan Grubb do to take advantage of a
bad situation?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I don't know what he does, but you just gave
him a couple really good ideas, And you know, I
think McDonald and Grub should be criticized more than they
have been. That doesn't mean I don't believe that they
can't coach this team. I think they're rookies, and the
rookies have had some holes in their games. Now that
(27:01):
being said, I don't think Mike McDonald's defense got out
coached by Sean mcmay's mcvay's offense yesterday.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
So that's that's a pro.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
That's promising when you go up against Sean McVay and
his offense.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
And you win that battle.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
And I think the Hawks defense won the battle overall
against the Rams offense. The problem is the Hawks offense
lost the battle so miserably against the Rams defense that
it didn't turn out to be a win. So eventually,
I think this coaching staff is going to get it
figured out.
Speaker 16 (27:29):
But to Gina's point, I mean Gena Gina's point, Hi, honey,
they have been super sloppy on a week two week basis,
and that has to go back to the coaching staff
for sure, no question.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Why don't we want to criticize him that much? Then
why would we not want to criticize him? Go ahead,
what do I care? But I think I don't hear
you criticize him. I'm criticizing criticizing him right now. They
were horrible, They're sloppy. Gotta get their heads out of there,
you know what's and have these guys playing better. I
think part of the reason we don't as often as
you do is because, as you said, they're both first
time guys taking over a brand new roster. They're both
(28:06):
new head coaches, they're new coordinators, they're new offensive line coaches.
In the NFL, there's a little bit of a grace period.
I think that these guys get to install their culture
and their system before you really start clocking people, right.
I mean, there's there's veterans like Tarik Willans in year three.
Now we talk about Geno Smith wanting a brand new contract.
You know who else wants the fifth year option or
(28:27):
excuse me, a brand new contract? Is Treik willin well,
and they're gonna have to decide after this year do
they want him going into his fourth and final year
or do they.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Want to sign him to a new contract. Right now,
he's not looking like he deserves it.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Quid getting pis not catching interceptions and getting burned for
winning touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Stop doing that right now We're gonna break
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