November 6, 2024 • 34 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Mike Florio about Monday Night Football, the trade deadline, and quarterback situations around the NFL, then share Jackson Felts’ Fact or Fiction pick before listening and reacting to Fun w/ Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Were we go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Normally we're here at the five twenty Bar and Grill
on a Thursday, but flying at Penn State tomorrow. Mike's
actually out of town still, so you and Hugh will
have the show tomorrow. I'll be flying to Pittsburgh making
the drive to Happy Valley on Friday. I'm looking forward
to getting out there, man. I mean, it's gonna be
a pain of the ass to get there. I'll totally
admit that. I got no problem with that whatsoever. We're
driving three hours one way and two hours the other way,
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but just to see the spectacle that is Penn State
and a white out on Saturday night. I don't know, man,
maybe I'm just you know, talking myself into this, but
I'm starting to feel pretty good about the Husky chances
on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I think if you just look at the two teams,
I've watched Penn State a lot this year, and you know,
I would say they're a better team than Washington. I
would not say they're a significantly better team than Washington.
So it's just all about how can you handle the
environments right right? Which is a problem, Which is a problem. Yeah,
I mean that's it's an environment like that. I mean,
that's gotta be worth four points.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah anyway, yea.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
And so if you can handle the environment, you can
absolutely play.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
With Penn State.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, looking at their games that they've played and outside
of the non conference, they don't really blow people out.
I mean, twenty one seven Illinois, that's not the style
of games, twenty seven to eleven Ucla, thirty three to
thirty USC in overtime, twenty eight to thirteen to Wisconsin,
and then what they lost by seven to Ohio State
when they got stoned at the goal line there. So
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for the most part, the fourth quarter comes around. I
think the Ucla game there may have been some garbage
points there. Yeah, it was twenty seven to three in
the fourth quarter, and Ucla got some garbage points.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But UB's better than Ucla. I mean, I think all
of us match that.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So I just think when the fourth quarter starts on Saturday,
the Huskies are going to be in this game.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
They may wear down like they did against Indiana and Iowa.
They may wear down defensively the way they did against
Woody Marks and USC. And I think James Franklin's a
better coach than Lincoln Riley. I mean, We're gonna talk
about this with Petros coming up, Dick at four o'clock,
and they.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
State fans might disagree with you. Yeah, but he's not
high on their list right now.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's because he can't beat the top five tens.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, he's like three and eighteen downs against the
top five or top ten. And I'm looking at Penn State.
And we actually had this note on the Husky Hank Show.
This note was on the Husky Honks Show yesterday that
when Penn State loses at home under James Franklin, here's
who they lose to. Number four, Ohio State, number three, Michigan,
number two, Ohio State, number six, Michigan number four, Ohio State,
number twelve, Michigan number ten, Michigan State, and number thirteen
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Ohio State. Yeah, there's a couple of thrown in there.
Illinois in nine over times three years ago. Over that
game they lost, how do you play? How do you
play nine over times and have thirty eight total points?
Michigan State in twenty eighteen, Northwestern and fourteen Maryland and
Doubt in twenty fourteen. But typically, Dick, when Penn State
loses at home, they're losing the really good football team.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yes, the excellent football teams, and Washington is a good
football team.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I don't think they're an excellent football team.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I think it's going to come It is going to
come down to the reason that Iowa and Indiana.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Were able to run over Washington in the second half.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, red zone, Right.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
If Washington can score in the red zone like they
did this last week against USC, it will be a
ballgame and Penn State will not be able to run
over Washington and extend it out to a twenty point win.
But if they continue to do what they did against
what they've done all year on the road, which is
move the ball between the twenties at will and bogged
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down in the red zone for either zero points or
three points, then yeah, it brings in that possibility that
a fourteen to ten Penn State lead at halftime becomes
a twenty eight to ten win.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, they're not I mean they're like, they're not really well,
lets say they're not really elite at anything. I mean,
they are the number seven total defense in the country
at two hundred and eighty yards a game, but U
dubs number ten. I'm just looking for a matchup with Washington.
A stat for stat where Penn State is elite at
something and the Huskies are terrible at something else, and
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there really isn't anything. I mean, Penn State's defense against
the run their number fourteen Huskies or seventieth overall at
one hundred and fifty one yards per game. But for me,
that's all just about a willingness to run the ball,
which they did on Saturday versus USC Penn State's got
the number seven total defense in America, number eight scoring
defense in the country, Number twenty eight total offense in America,
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number forty seven scoring defense in the country, forty three
against the pass at two hundred and fifty yards a game.
You Dub is twenty fourth against the pass. I mean,
that might be the matchup where maybe you Dub with
those skilled players can take advantage. But Penn State's just
really good at everything they do, and this is gonna
be a huge problem for them on Saturday, facing that crowd,
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facing that environment, fighting their first road win of the year.
It would obviously change the narrative on the season tremendously.
I think for Jetfish if they can walk into Penn
State and walk out of there with a win and
get their Bowl game, get their sixth win, go for
number seven next Friday against UCLA. That is something that
they can carry with them the entire offseason.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, and we took a look at the beginning season.
Remember we went through the five categories of Husky games,
the wins, the losses, the should wins, the should loses,
in the toss of the mamber.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Okay, that was exciting.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
They won all three of their games that we said
that they would win.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The two tosses toss ups were USC and Rutgers. We
did this at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
This written down or is just by.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
This beginning I have this written down. Of course I
keep keep all the notes one and one in toss
up games. They're one and one in the should lose
games Michigan and Iowa. But they're zero to two so
far in the games we thought they should win. We
had UCLA Wazoo in Indiana, so that's where they're UNDERSTD.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You got to pick one up to get back to
the seven and five.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
You got to get one of those losses, which is
at Oregon and at Penn State.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
More on that coming to Petros at four. Mike Florio
joins right now.
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Speaker 1 (06:33):
Our friend, Michael Florio, how are you man?
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Well, go on, gentlemen, Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Not much.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But should the Buccaneers have gone for two on Monday
night on the road? Did they make the wrong call
by not trying to win the game?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Right there?
Speaker 6 (06:48):
They wouldn't have won the game right there. That's the problem,
because they mishandled the clock management. They should have not
called a timeout. They should have tried to engineer the
clock to at least under ten seconds. When you get
Patrick Mahomes the ball with twenty seven seconds left, three timeouts,
down a points, so he has every reason to try
to get the team in field goal range. History tells
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us that fall more often than not. He does, and
I'm not betting against him in any setting. The only
way to beat Patrick Mahomes is either to be up
by more than two scores in the second half, because
we've seen him come back repeatedly in high stakes environments
down two scores in the second half, or win the
game with him on the sideline. So the only way
you go for two in that setting is if he's
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not getting the ball back. That's the problem. They didn't
work the time off the clock, and they almost blew
it in regulation, giving him twenty seven seconds in a
tie game, they got the fourth and one and they
didn't go for it. If that had happened down one,
they would have gone for it. They would have gotten it.
They would have kicked the field goal and they would
have walked off the winner. There's no good way out
of it unless you work the clock down to less
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than ten seconds, go for two and get it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Mike.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
The deadline is coming gone. What's the dead life deal?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
If any that you think will have a major impact
on a potential playoff team coming up?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And it seems like.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There's been more bigger names being traded in twenty twenty
four and maybe even twenty twenty three than there has
been you know, five ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Well, I think that, like many years, we saw the
biggest moves happen well in advance of the deadline. I
think the one that potentially makes the biggest difference because
it sends the strongest message is the Commander's getting Marshawn Lattimore,
who was the first player taken after Patrick Mahomes in
the twenty seventeen drafts. He's the guy the Saints took
after they got leapfrog by the Chiefs for Patrick Mahomes,
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and the Chiefs were linked to Latimore over the weekend.
I think the Chiefs weren't willing to give up what
the commanders ultimately gave up. The commanders doing what they did.
Is a recognition by them that they didn't expect to
be in a position to contend this year. Now that
they are, they're going to lean into it and try
to get the most out of it. They're going to
reach for that brass ring. It suddenly is flashing in
their face.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
So I like the message. It sends to the league
that they're gonna do what they have to do to
try to prepare themselves to win in the postseed. And
we've seen teams that surprise us in the past. They
rise up, they make it to the playoffs, and by
the divisional round when they have to go on the roads,
that's when they get smacked down. That's when we find
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out they're not ready to move for Latimore. Is I
think an effort by the Commanders to tell the world
and themselves, we're going to try to win that divisional
round game, even if it's at San Francisco or at Detroit,
We're gonna go in there and try to win it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, I saw the tweet from Chefti the other day
who said that DK Metcalf will not be traded. And
I always like to make fun of guys that do
stuff like that because I just say this, If you're
gonna put a report out there that says that a
guy's not going to be traded, then you better tell
me there was a lot of activity and interest in
him and phone calls that John Schneider and offers turned down.
How much activity and how many offerers and how much
buzz you think they're truly was around the Seahawks actually
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trading DK Metcalf.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Well, first of all, I did restrain myself. I did
pay attention to the angel on the right shoulder instead
of the devil on the left shoulder because the tweet
went along the lines up the spiked speculation DK Metcalf
will not be traded, and I almost first tweeted despite speculation,
Patrick Mahomes will not be traded, and then I opted
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to consider despite speculation, player who never was going to
be traded won't be traded. But there was someone who
covers the Steelers because I do a spot every Wednesday
on ninety three seven the Fan in Pittsburgh, and they
mentioned that someone suggested the Steelers had checked in to
see if DK Metcalf was available, but nothing ever came
of it. I don't think DK Metcalf is untouchable. Patrick
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mahomes is. If somebody really wanted DK Metcalf, they could
have pried him away. They could have made the Seahawks
an offer they wouldn't have refused if they really wanted him.
And the Seahawks are looked at it and said, hey,
Jack and Smith, Jig that had a career game last week.
He's the real deal. We still have Tyler Lockett. We
don't really know where we are what we are. If
we can pick up a first round pick plus for
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DK Metcalf, we have to seriously consider it. I don't
think the Steelers were in a mindset that they were
willing to offer anything significant like that. The Steelers, I think,
like to do deals where they aren't desperate. They aren't
going to pay a lot. They get Mike Williams for
a fifth round pick, for example. But I think if
somebody really wanted DK Metcalf and was motivated to make
a significant offer, you'd be stupid not to listen to it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You don't call the guys from Pittsburgh, Buttholes? Do you
you reserve that for us?
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Right? No?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (11:35):
But Holes?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Okay, that's got to just check it.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Call anybody, but.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
You should be You should be happy about that.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Now.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
I do get into it with Paul Allen all the time.
I haven't called him a butthole yet, but I do
argue with him more vociferously than I argue with you guys.
But you should be be proud happy. I don't know
because I'm comfortable enough to call you buttholes on the air.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Like this.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
It's it's absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
That.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Wait what year was that?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That was Blair Wallas playoff game?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Oh god? Oh god, yes, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, like the seventeen yard or uh Mike the Cowboys okay,
continued just to be a dumpster fire. James Jones says
on Fox yesterday that Dak was quitting on the team
by going on the i R with a hamstring injury,
which he says, he says, I've had that injury and
it's a week to week injury.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
He shouldn't be on the eyel what's your take on that?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
And also with with Jerry Jones actually being a buyer
at the trade deadline setting a fourth round pick for
a receiver softie and I had never heard of.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Well, first of all, that's a moronic comment by James
Jones because there are degrees of hamstring injuries, and anyone
just had a hamstring injury of a significant degree knows
that I had something years ago when I used to
be very active. Why felt it pool? And that's what
Dak said, He felt a pool. You feel the pool.
It's like the breaks are being applied to that entire leg,
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and it's stiff after that, and if it's bad enough,
it bruises, it's torn. It takes time to recover. So
I don't buy this idea. I think people just want
to create buzz and take something outlandish. So radio hosts
in Seattle will bring up what the person said, mission accomplished.
James Jones, but I think that's an irresponsible comment by
him unless he knows the extent of the injury. As
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to the trade for Jonathan Mingo, who's done nothing in
two years in the NFL to make anyone say, hey, wow,
the Cowboys got Jonathan Mingo. To me, that's a play
for twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six. Because they're
so top heavy with the Dak contract, the Cedee Lamb contract,
that coming Michael Parsons contract, they need contributors at other
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spots who don't cost a lot of money. So they
have a guy who they think, based upon whatever they've
seen on film the last year and a half, that
Jonathan Mingo can play. They'd rather give up a fourth
round pick for him for two years, then roll the
dice on a fourth rounder next year who might not
pan out, because that's the reality that Cuss thought was
a fourth rounder. So there's a chance you could find
somebody in the fourth round. But it's scratching off a
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lottery ticket. They apparently believe that they see enough in
Mingo that if they get him into their offense he
can be a contributor. But it's not a move for twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Four Woreo was a human dingleberry.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Thank you. Sorry, Well that's the way to reset over
the years. Yeah, that's a way to reset.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I got a bunch here for you. By the way, Hey,
real quick. What's going on with the Deshaun Watson situation.
Obviously he's out for the year. I saw a story
I think on your website as well that the Browns
are being kind of mum on his future. I mean,
what are their options when the season comes to and
then moving.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Forward, Well, they don't have to plan, but they have
to pay him, and if they would cut him, it
would accelerate bonus money and create exorbitant cap charges next
year or the year after. They can keep him on
the roster and just pay out the forty six million
he's due fully guaranteed next year with a cap hit
of seventy two million, the forty six million he's fully
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guaranteed in twenty twenty six with a cap hit of
seventy two million, and then in twenty twenty seven there's
a lingering thirty million dollar cap charge based upon prior
money paid to him that they pushed into future years.
Do they have to play him? No, The question is
when are they going to admit they screwed this up?
Everybody knows. I said this to day on PFD Live.
The Browns are the guy who came out of the
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bathroom with toilet paper stuck to their shoe and everyone
sees it, and they see it, but they refuse to
acknowledge it. That's what this is for the Browns, because
they should have been sellers at the deadline. They should
have moved far more than Za Darius Smith's. They should
have moved any veteran who's not going to be there
two or three years from now to be part of
the resurrection once they get out from under the Deshaun
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Watson contract, because then they get draft picked that they
can get young players, chief players with and have a
roster to balance out Watson. But that would be admitting
that they screwed up there, so hell bent on not
admitting they screwed up, that they're only going to make
their situation.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Worse, Mike.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Every year we talk to you about, oh, look at
all this parody in the NFL. Everybody's you know, four
and five, But this year, nine teams have only two wins.
Where's the parody gone this year? Why are there so
many dumpster fires? We've already had our first coach fired.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
I mean, it's we've had two fires.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Robert Tla and it's right.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Dennis Allen, and I just think this is a reality
that sometimes you play these games as a winner, there's
a loser, and it just works out in a certain
way that a cluster of teams end up losing and
losing and losing losing. You've got most of those two
win teams at two and seven, A couple of them
are two and six. Will one of them get hot? Possibly?
You know, there's always a team that's just hovering around
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five hundred New Thanksgiving that finds the gas pedal and
they have this mindset of urgency because they know they
can't lose any more games or many more games. So
it's like the playoffs in December. And then by the
time they get to the playoff, they might be dangerous
because it's like, hey, it's been the playoffs for the
last six weeks. But it's stunning to see more than
a fourth of the league in a position where they
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can essentially acknowledge we're done, we're done, we're probably done.
And I think the key for any team is to
be competitive path Banksgiving. You want to be competitive path
Banksgiving because you want your fans to show up for
December games. You want the kids to want the jerseys
of your star players. You want people to be engaged
and excited to watch your team. You want to be
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alive when we get into the Christmas holiday season for
a playoff. For could be a lot of teams are
done by the time we get to the holidays. In
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Guys gonna say the Hawks had one of those two
win teams on their schedule, but they lost to the
Giants who were now doing seven. All right, dude, great stuff. Man,
appreciate it. We're talking a week buddy.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Thanks Mike Big.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Mike Florio with us on the radio show. Orio is
a human Dingleberry. We are at the five twenty bar
and grill.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
We got a lot more to get to, including Factor
fiction coming up. It's Wednesday. It's Jackson's Day. Next ninety
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Speaker 2 (18:12):
I saw tweet today and I thought about you, by
the way, buddy, which your uh uh, Well.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You get two buddies here. It wants to be my
buddy for this segment. Jackson is your case my motor
oil tweet?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
No, I saw that. That was good.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
That was good.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I like when I can uh decipher your tweets, you know,
and not have you really tell the world what the
hell you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But I know, I know what I know. I know.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
There was a tweet about Geno Smith leading the NFL
in passing yards.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
When I thought to myself, if Dick.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Fane sees that, he's gonna just come back with some snarky,
smart ass response like is there a more worthless status quarter?
I saw your tweet the other day. Which one was it?
You said, like hoorah or whatever? What was that in
regards to I forget what it was, probably a something
about Gino It's like, oh my god, dude, this is like,
this is just becoming like that little annoying kid in
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the league of their own running up and down the
busts with his pinata or with a pin wheel.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
Na.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you this is like your
thing now, man, Well, I just this is your thing.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I just think that our our exuberance. And I said
this after the Atlanta game. Yeah, as good as he
was in the Atlanta game, I was like, let's let's
chill out a little bit on Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
The dude is what he is, and huge numbers were thought.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
He was really good in the Atlanta game.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
He was really good in the Atlanta I found your
tweet most passing yards in a week nine Gino Smith
three sixty three, to which Dick Fane says, hurrah. Yeah,
did that get us anything the three hundred and sixty
three yards except the loss?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know, I mean Hugh's Hughes numbers are unbelievable, which
you know in the red zone?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Okay, gotcha right, right right?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Once again, forty five quarterbacks have had two hundred attempts
or more since the beginning of last season. He is
forty second of forty five and passer rating in the
red zone thirty six to forty five, and success rate
thirty ninth to forty five, and touchdown interception ratio and
forty second out of forty five in completion percent.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean that is okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
That's Bryce young stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Why in the red zone?
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Then?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Why does PFF have him ranked as the tenth graded
quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Because he's good between the twenties.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And that's good enough just for number ten to begin
in the twenties. He's twenty third in QBR. He's number
ten a courtesy of Pro Football On third in QBR
is twenty third QBR is not very good. PFF got
him number ten ranked in the NFL. His passer rating
is nineteenth in the NFL, right behind Patrick Mahomes. But
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obviously Mahomes has a much better resume than Gino Smith does.
I got Corbyn Smith Jackson drooling all over social media
about how great Gino is and how crappy the offensive
line is. I got Dick in the other ear telling
me how how crazy Gino, how bad Gino is inside
the red zone, how much we're throwing the ball. I mean,
do we like this guy or not? I can't figure
it out.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I like it as a city, Yeah, I like Gino.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
I don't like Gino enough to keep him here on
the same contract he's on right now for another two years.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Okay, I just think it's time.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Listen, you guys know, like I was fully in the
hand of if you get a good offer of like
a first and a Secon round for DK, go forward,
because I'm ready to kind of move into the next
era of Seahawk football. I want to see loading up
on the lines, especially offensive line. I want to see
less investment in the skill players, and I want to
see eventually a new quarterback to lead this team for
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the next era.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
So Gino Smith just real quick as a thirty eight
point five million dollar cap hit next year. Dick and
I were talking about this earlier in the year that
if Geno proves it and you gotta wait until the
year's over. Both of us felt comfortable with a two year,
eighty million dollar extension, which is forty million dollars a year,
which is what Daniel Jones is making and literally puts
him almost right there in the middle of the pack
as far as starting quarterbacks in the NFL, that's fine.
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Are you willing right now to give Gino Smith two
years eighty million dollars?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
If we have a plan.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
What's the plan.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
What's the succession plan to Gino?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Small succession plan? Yes, like a game p It's like.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
We have with Gino Smith.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You were caught in NFL purgatory, right, because Geno Smith's
top end is a ten ish win quarterback, right, and
his bottom end is a seven or eight ish win quarterback.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I mean that's what he is.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
He is one of the middle five or six quarterbacks
in the NFL. And sure, I'll still say he's a
top half quarterback, but that's more because there's just sixteen
awful starters in the NFL. More so than I really
like Gino, But I just keep going back to.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
The nine games we've played this season and.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Asking yourself, how many of those nine games has Geno
been a good to really good quarterback? And I have
come up with two, and that's Detroit and Atlanta. Can
you come up with a third.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
This season where he's really, really, really good?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yes, a third game other than out of nine, other
than Detroit and Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Let's see, I thought he was I thought he was
pretty good against the Patriots three of forty four, three
twenty seven, seventy five percent touchdown, no picks. Okay, passer
rating a one ozh three good, I'll take that, Okay, right,
I thought he was good.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Atlanta, I thought he was good.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Okay, probably probably threw the ball way too much against
the Niners. Giants not so much. Uh yeah, I mean
he had a nine. Yeah, But again, the context is
the offensive line. If they had a better offensive line,
how much better would Gino Smith be? So I think
we just got to figure out, like what is Gino Smith?
Is Gino Smith good enough to be the franchise quarterback
(23:32):
for a couple of years, or is Gino Smith the
guy that you simply could have got to start looking elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
He's good enough to be a franchise quarterback if your
goal is nine or ten wins in a first round
playoff loss.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Let's get to factor fiction right now. Where's that to go?
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Speaker 1 (24:09):
Hi Jackson, we need to hear pal. We're hurting. We're hurting, buddy, Yeah,
we're hurt.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
We haven't discussed this.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I'm a little nervous because Jackson hasn't run by any
games with this and usually does.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You know what I think? I think at this point
and just throw a dart at the right, That's what
it is. No discussion necessary.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Or just stick with your guns, Jackson. Just because it
moved one point, shit moved you move you off your
favorite that's a big point. That's too big of a
point for me.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
We've discussed this every single week, and what is discussing?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Get us nothing?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Nothing? No more talking. All right, I'm done talking. Just
make a stupid pick. Jackson, you're up.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
What do you got.
Speaker 9 (24:39):
There's a lot of hate in my hearts and I
and I hate the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh yeah, I let it out. So I'm in the
order of the Emperor.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
I'm gonna go with the Buccaneers plus six. But there's
a lot of reasons why I'm going with the Buccaneers
plus six, more than just the hate of the forty
nine ers last night, I mean Monday night.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Excuse me.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
I think the Buccaneers played.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Pretty well and a team.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
By the way, if they've beaten the Commanders this year,
they've beaten the Lines this year, they've beaten the Eagles
this year. They're on a three game losing streak. They're
at home against the Chiefs, coming off of a just
a narrow loss in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
This is a Buccaneers.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
Yes, they're down on wide receivers, but they're playing well
at home, getting you know, nearly a touchdown. So I
hate the forty nine ers. Give me the Buccaneers plus
six at home.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I like Tampa. I've always liked Tampa.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
This year, I think they've gotten you know, riddled by
the injuries, for the wide receivers.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But here's the here's the issue twofold.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
One short week for Tampa, bye week for San Francisco.
You've got one team coming off six days arrest, one
team coming off fourteen days.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
Yeah, whatever, I don't really care.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Secondly, there's a there's a guy named Christian McCaffrey coming
back for San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
That makes a world of difference.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
All right, those so you were lukewarm on my pick yesterday,
I'm lukewarmer.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I mean, makes no difference. Is that when we're throwing
with throwing darts. Okay, go for it, all right. We're
taking the bucks plus the points.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
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Speaker 8 (26:45):
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Speaker 1 (26:49):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
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Speaker 1 (26:54):
That's up man, where you been has been around?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That guy will be in tomorrow right yes, flying to
Pittsburgh courtesy at Delta. Doing the show on Friday courtesy
Avenue Kings dot Com from Champs Sports Bar on North
Atherton Street to swing on by. And I was able
to take Mario Bailey's credit card out of his wallet
yesterday during.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The Hawk Show. We're gonna cool. Oh yeah, we're gonna
load it up. Baby, We're gonna go nuts on Friday.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Anyway, it's time for a little fun with audio slash.
Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen
to hear that?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
We'll just say we start in college basketball in the
locker room last night, Danny Sprinkle picking up his first
win as head coach of the Huskies basketball team, youw
ad pat Shun, interrupting his postgame speech to awards, sprinkle
the game ball.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
So hey, this is UH win number one ten here today.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Coach, we'll take you.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
But this is his first You guys got him his
first one. Uh, you guys know how hard this worst
first one.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
Was getting umber, cheasing even harder.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
But Coach and rats would appreciate all the hard work
that your guys have done, and we got a long kah.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I was watching some of that game this afternoon. You
know what I like?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I like thirty eight free throw attempts. You know what
I don't like is making twenty one of them.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
By the way, the line was a mass.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You don't how many times they had thirty eight free
throw attemps last year? Zero none, zero, I was thirty
three teams never got to the free Well, I mean
this great osa bar. I mean, he's as advertised, right,
I mean, my god, what were his numbers last night?
He was unbelievable yesterday at fifteen points, seventeen boards, three assists,
six deals.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I saw twenty cents.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
The first time since Blake Griffin in two thousand and
eight that the guy had fifteen points seventeen boards and
six deals.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, he is going to be the anchor of that
basketball team. I need to see some more help around him,
though I didn't see that yesterday. Zoom played pretty well.
I know we'll spend some more time later on in
the show. Came breaway game down for sure, But let's
talk about from that game.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
No doubt. All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to here?
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Though?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Joel Embiid was suspended three games yesterday for shoving Philadelphia
Inquire columnist Marcus Hayes. On his Fox Sports one show today,
Craig Carton reacted to the NBA's handling of this is mention,
you really want.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
To punish Joe l Embiid, wouldn't you make him play
three games?
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Do you imagine you've got to play it? You gotta
play three games.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
I can't play these back to back three games, but
I'll play a three games.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So to the NBA and the Sixers, we all say.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
What I mean, if that's hurt, you gotta go out
there and play hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
We don't care. Just go out there and play. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I'm kind of I find myself defending Embiid in this regard.
And look, I'm not going to talk about, you know,
whether he's hurt, whether he's not hurt, whether he's soft,
whether he's notf sought not soft, because I got no idea.
I do get tired of all the guys taking all
these games off. I agree with you, there's too many
damn games. If you've got games where people don't even
want to play, there's too many games.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Okay, So I totally agree on that.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I just think any time a guy mentions the dude's
dead brother and son in his column, he can go
to hell. And Joel Embid was justified. He should have
smacked the hell out of him. Hell, let alone shove
the guy.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
It was uncalled for for for what the columnist did.
There's no question about that. My question with Joe Embiid
is simply, if you don't have an injury designation by
your team, then why aren't you playing.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Blame them you said that yesterday. Blame the Sixers. They're
not putting, they're not giving him any help, right, I mean.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Is he soft?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Is he known as a soft guy around the NBA?
I got no idea. Every time I watch him play.
He's pretty physical, right.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
He's known as an injury plagued guy, and he has
been for years.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
He was coming out of college. He was an injury
plague guy.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Okay, So is that because he's soft or is it
just the way the ball is bounced?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Like? Is he literally just.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Not tough and doesn't want to suck it up and
go out there? I mean, that's hard to qualify. I
get that.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Like CJ.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Prosie took a lot of heat for being banged up
a lot, where Shot Penny took a lot of heat.
I don't think we're Shot Penny was soft. I mean
Shot Penny was tough as hell. He just couldn't stay healthy.
So what's the deal with this guy?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I don't know. He just can't stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's it? Uh, Dick? Yes, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
We'll stick with this topic on this podcast this week.
NBA guard Patrick Beverley reacting to Oh, this is what
I think.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I agree. I'm gonna find myself agree with this.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
I think he.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Reacted to him being only shoving Marcus as for mentioning
Joelle's son and dead brother in the recent article.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
I don't condone violence. I repeat, I do not condone violence.
But some just need a little huh. I ain't telling
you the whioblem, but some people go out they way
to try to like be bad, be mean, be nasty
like and that's not the way to go. First off,
you don't talk about the dead. Everyone knows that. You
don't talk about the dead. Secondly, you don't speak on
anyone's kids. Those are two No.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
No, his dead brother wouldn't be proud of him.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
That's so tough to say.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
I'm gonna tell you something, though, rowan Joel better than me.
Oh yeah, I would have gave him may nots. You
know what may notaz is what's that may go away?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
May not? You know me? I think he's right.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
And now now that he actually said what he said,
did he really say his dead brother would not be proud? Like,
what's the point of that? What is the point of that?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Unless you want to be just a jerk and dig
the knife? There's just no point to that.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
It crosses the line.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I mean the guy should be flashed, fires asked, he
should be suspend, pull its credential.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
If Joel's gonna get suspended for pushing him.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
He should get suspended for right.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Listen, Jackson, we're doing the show here from the five
to twenty. People are coming down and trying to have
a good time, and we're screaming and yelling here in
the corner like jackasses.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
We've already had one lay Jackson.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
By the way, two lovely ladies.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
They were just staring at Softy during Crosstock, going who
is this?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
What is that? What is that thing over there?
Speaker 6 (32:37):
All right here?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
One more dick? Did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
All right?
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Fresh off a twenty nine nine blowout lost Arizona Bear
to Wai, receiver DJ Moore joined Bernstein and Holmes. That's
our buddy Larry Holmes out there, Lawrence Holmes on six
seventy the score in Chicago and gave a not so
strong endorsement for his head coach, Matt Eberfleiss. I wonder
from the outside, has Mat Eberfluce lost his football team?
Speaker 5 (33:02):
To ask you, has Matt Eberflus lost his football team?
Speaker 6 (33:06):
I want to say no. The mesa yesterday was that
we we know we're from before now it's just like
being Zarrow zero.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I I gotta tell you, I didn't understand a word
he said.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
I said, I want to say, no.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Okay, got you.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
I'm ringing a ringing endorsement for head coach little Positan afterwards.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
I want to say no.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I mean, how do you How do you have that
football team with that kind of talent and be that
bad and they're gonna turn it over to somebody else.
I mean, eber Fless has gone. Because eber Fleiss is
gonna be gone, then Shane Waldron's gonna be gone. They're
gonna find a new offensive coordinator. I mean, this is
just like the easiest call in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
How often does that actually work when you have a
head coach that is on the precipice of being fired
and instead.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
You're like, all right, we're gonna give you a one
year's stay of execution.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And bring in a new offensive coordinator. How often does
that ever work and save.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
The head coaches job? Not very often, I mean I can't.
I mean has By.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Lake had met John Donovan for one year and then
got whacked and they all went out, partly because John
Donovan could't run offense. That was part of it all right,
we're gonna break. Petros Papadacas is all fired up. He'll
join us next on ninety three to three kJ RFM.
Were we go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Normally we're here at the five twenty Bar and Grill
on a Thursday, but flying at Penn State tomorrow. Mike's
actually out of town still, so you and Hugh will
have the show tomorrow. I'll be flying to Pittsburgh making
the drive to Happy Valley on Friday. I'm looking forward
to getting out there, man. I mean, it's gonna be
a pain of the ass to get there. I'll totally
admit that. I got no problem with that whatsoever. We're
driving three hours one way and two hours the other way,
(00:22):
but just to see the spectacle that is Penn State
and a white out on Saturday night. I don't know, man,
maybe I'm just you know, talking myself into this, but
I'm starting to feel pretty good about the Husky chances
on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I think if you just look at the two teams,
I've watched Penn State a lot this year, and you know,
I would say they're a better team than Washington. I
would not say they're a significantly better team than Washington.
So it's just all about how can you handle the
environments right right? Which is a problem, Which is a problem. Yeah,
I mean that's it's an environment like that. I mean,
that's gotta be worth four points.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah anyway, yea.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
And so if you can handle the environment, you can
absolutely play.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
With Penn State.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, looking at their games that they've played and outside
of the non conference, they don't really blow people out.
I mean, twenty one seven Illinois, that's not the style
of games, twenty seven to eleven Ucla, thirty three to
thirty USC in overtime, twenty eight to thirteen to Wisconsin,
and then what they lost by seven to Ohio State
when they got stoned at the goal line there. So
(01:20):
for the most part, the fourth quarter comes around. I
think the Ucla game there may have been some garbage
points there. Yeah, it was twenty seven to three in
the fourth quarter, and Ucla got some garbage points.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But UB's better than Ucla. I mean, I think all
of us match that.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So I just think when the fourth quarter starts on Saturday,
the Huskies are going to be in this game.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
They may wear down like they did against Indiana and Iowa.
They may wear down defensively the way they did against
Woody Marks and USC. And I think James Franklin's a
better coach than Lincoln Riley. I mean, We're gonna talk
about this with Petros coming up, Dick at four o'clock,
and they.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
State fans might disagree with you. Yeah, but he's not
high on their list right now.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's because he can't beat the top five tens.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, he's like three and eighteen downs against the
top five or top ten. And I'm looking at Penn State.
And we actually had this note on the Husky Hank Show.
This note was on the Husky Honks Show yesterday that
when Penn State loses at home under James Franklin, here's
who they lose to. Number four, Ohio State, number three, Michigan,
number two, Ohio State, number six, Michigan number four, Ohio State,
number twelve, Michigan number ten, Michigan State, and number thirteen
(02:22):
Ohio State. Yeah, there's a couple of thrown in there.
Illinois in nine over times three years ago. Over that
game they lost, how do you play? How do you
play nine over times and have thirty eight total points?
Michigan State in twenty eighteen, Northwestern and fourteen Maryland and
Doubt in twenty fourteen. But typically, Dick, when Penn State
loses at home, they're losing the really good football team.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yes, the excellent football teams, and Washington is a good
football team.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I don't think they're an excellent football team.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I think it's going to come It is going to
come down to the reason that Iowa and Indiana.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Were able to run over Washington in the second half.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, red zone, Right.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
If Washington can score in the red zone like they
did this last week against USC, it will be a
ballgame and Penn State will not be able to run
over Washington and extend it out to a twenty point win.
But if they continue to do what they did against
what they've done all year on the road, which is
move the ball between the twenties at will and bogged
(03:23):
down in the red zone for either zero points or
three points, then yeah, it brings in that possibility that
a fourteen to ten Penn State lead at halftime becomes
a twenty eight to ten win.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, they're not I mean they're like, they're not really well,
lets say they're not really elite at anything. I mean,
they are the number seven total defense in the country
at two hundred and eighty yards a game, but U
dubs number ten. I'm just looking for a matchup with Washington.
A stat for stat where Penn State is elite at
something and the Huskies are terrible at something else, and
(03:56):
there really isn't anything. I mean, Penn State's defense against
the run their number fourteen Huskies or seventieth overall at
one hundred and fifty one yards per game. But for me,
that's all just about a willingness to run the ball,
which they did on Saturday versus USC Penn State's got
the number seven total defense in America, number eight scoring
defense in the country, Number twenty eight total offense in America,
(04:19):
number forty seven scoring defense in the country, forty three
against the pass at two hundred and fifty yards a game.
You Dub is twenty fourth against the pass. I mean,
that might be the matchup where maybe you Dub with
those skilled players can take advantage. But Penn State's just
really good at everything they do, and this is gonna
be a huge problem for them on Saturday, facing that crowd,
(04:40):
facing that environment, fighting their first road win of the year.
It would obviously change the narrative on the season tremendously.
I think for Jetfish if they can walk into Penn
State and walk out of there with a win and
get their Bowl game, get their sixth win, go for
number seven next Friday against UCLA. That is something that
they can carry with them the entire offseason.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, and we took a look at the beginning season.
Remember we went through the five categories of Husky games,
the wins, the losses, the should wins, the should loses,
in the toss of the mamber.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Okay, that was exciting.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
They won all three of their games that we said
that they would win.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The two tosses toss ups were USC and Rutgers. We
did this at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
This written down or is just by.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
This beginning I have this written down. Of course I
keep keep all the notes one and one in toss
up games. They're one and one in the should lose
games Michigan and Iowa. But they're zero to two so
far in the games we thought they should win. We
had UCLA Wazoo in Indiana, so that's where they're UNDERSTD.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You got to pick one up to get back to
the seven and five.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
You got to get one of those losses, which is
at Oregon and at Penn State.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
More on that coming to Petros at four. Mike Florio
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Speaker 1 (06:33):
Our friend, Michael Florio, how are you man?
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Well, go on, gentlemen, Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Not much.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But should the Buccaneers have gone for two on Monday
night on the road? Did they make the wrong call
by not trying to win the game?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Right there?
Speaker 6 (06:48):
They wouldn't have won the game right there. That's the problem,
because they mishandled the clock management. They should have not
called a timeout. They should have tried to engineer the
clock to at least under ten seconds. When you get
Patrick Mahomes the ball with twenty seven seconds left, three timeouts,
down a points, so he has every reason to try
to get the team in field goal range. History tells
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us that fall more often than not. He does, and
I'm not betting against him in any setting. The only
way to beat Patrick Mahomes is either to be up
by more than two scores in the second half, because
we've seen him come back repeatedly in high stakes environments
down two scores in the second half, or win the
game with him on the sideline. So the only way
you go for two in that setting is if he's
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not getting the ball back. That's the problem. They didn't
work the time off the clock, and they almost blew
it in regulation, giving him twenty seven seconds in a
tie game, they got the fourth and one and they
didn't go for it. If that had happened down one,
they would have gone for it. They would have gotten it.
They would have kicked the field goal and they would
have walked off the winner. There's no good way out
of it unless you work the clock down to less
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than ten seconds, go for two and get it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Mike.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
The deadline is coming gone. What's the dead life deal?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
If any that you think will have a major impact
on a potential playoff team coming up?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And it seems like.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There's been more bigger names being traded in twenty twenty
four and maybe even twenty twenty three than there has
been you know, five ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Well, I think that, like many years, we saw the
biggest moves happen well in advance of the deadline. I
think the one that potentially makes the biggest difference because
it sends the strongest message is the Commander's getting Marshawn Lattimore,
who was the first player taken after Patrick Mahomes in
the twenty seventeen drafts. He's the guy the Saints took
after they got leapfrog by the Chiefs for Patrick Mahomes,
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and the Chiefs were linked to Latimore over the weekend.
I think the Chiefs weren't willing to give up what
the commanders ultimately gave up. The commanders doing what they did.
Is a recognition by them that they didn't expect to
be in a position to contend this year. Now that
they are, they're going to lean into it and try
to get the most out of it. They're going to
reach for that brass ring. It suddenly is flashing in
their face.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
So I like the message. It sends to the league
that they're gonna do what they have to do to
try to prepare themselves to win in the postseed. And
we've seen teams that surprise us in the past. They
rise up, they make it to the playoffs, and by
the divisional round when they have to go on the roads,
that's when they get smacked down. That's when we find
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out they're not ready to move for Latimore. Is I
think an effort by the Commanders to tell the world
and themselves, we're going to try to win that divisional
round game, even if it's at San Francisco or at Detroit,
We're gonna go in there and try to win it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, I saw the tweet from Chefti the other day
who said that DK Metcalf will not be traded. And
I always like to make fun of guys that do
stuff like that because I just say this, If you're
gonna put a report out there that says that a
guy's not going to be traded, then you better tell
me there was a lot of activity and interest in
him and phone calls that John Schneider and offers turned down.
How much activity and how many offerers and how much
buzz you think they're truly was around the Seahawks actually
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trading DK Metcalf.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Well, first of all, I did restrain myself. I did
pay attention to the angel on the right shoulder instead
of the devil on the left shoulder because the tweet
went along the lines up the spiked speculation DK Metcalf
will not be traded, and I almost first tweeted despite speculation,
Patrick Mahomes will not be traded, and then I opted
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to consider despite speculation, player who never was going to
be traded won't be traded. But there was someone who
covers the Steelers because I do a spot every Wednesday
on ninety three seven the Fan in Pittsburgh, and they
mentioned that someone suggested the Steelers had checked in to
see if DK Metcalf was available, but nothing ever came
of it. I don't think DK Metcalf is untouchable. Patrick
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mahomes is. If somebody really wanted DK Metcalf, they could
have pried him away. They could have made the Seahawks
an offer they wouldn't have refused if they really wanted him.
And the Seahawks are looked at it and said, hey,
Jack and Smith, Jig that had a career game last week.
He's the real deal. We still have Tyler Lockett. We
don't really know where we are what we are. If
we can pick up a first round pick plus for
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DK Metcalf, we have to seriously consider it. I don't
think the Steelers were in a mindset that they were
willing to offer anything significant like that. The Steelers, I think,
like to do deals where they aren't desperate. They aren't
going to pay a lot. They get Mike Williams for
a fifth round pick, for example. But I think if
somebody really wanted DK Metcalf and was motivated to make
a significant offer, you'd be stupid not to listen to it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You don't call the guys from Pittsburgh, Buttholes? Do you
you reserve that for us?
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Right? No?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (11:35):
But Holes?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Okay, that's got to just check it.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Call anybody, but.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
You should be You should be happy about that.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Now.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
I do get into it with Paul Allen all the time.
I haven't called him a butthole yet, but I do
argue with him more vociferously than I argue with you guys.
But you should be be proud happy. I don't know
because I'm comfortable enough to call you buttholes on the air.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Like this.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
It's it's absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
That.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Wait what year was that?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That was Blair Wallas playoff game?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Oh god? Oh god, yes, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, like the seventeen yard or uh Mike the Cowboys okay,
continued just to be a dumpster fire. James Jones says
on Fox yesterday that Dak was quitting on the team
by going on the i R with a hamstring injury,
which he says, he says, I've had that injury and
it's a week to week injury.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
He shouldn't be on the eyel what's your take on that?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
And also with with Jerry Jones actually being a buyer
at the trade deadline setting a fourth round pick for
a receiver softie and I had never heard of.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Well, first of all, that's a moronic comment by James
Jones because there are degrees of hamstring injuries, and anyone
just had a hamstring injury of a significant degree knows
that I had something years ago when I used to
be very active. Why felt it pool? And that's what
Dak said, He felt a pool. You feel the pool.
It's like the breaks are being applied to that entire leg,
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and it's stiff after that, and if it's bad enough,
it bruises, it's torn. It takes time to recover. So
I don't buy this idea. I think people just want
to create buzz and take something outlandish. So radio hosts
in Seattle will bring up what the person said, mission accomplished.
James Jones, but I think that's an irresponsible comment by
him unless he knows the extent of the injury. As
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to the trade for Jonathan Mingo, who's done nothing in
two years in the NFL to make anyone say, hey, wow,
the Cowboys got Jonathan Mingo. To me, that's a play
for twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six. Because they're
so top heavy with the Dak contract, the Cedee Lamb contract,
that coming Michael Parsons contract, they need contributors at other
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spots who don't cost a lot of money. So they
have a guy who they think, based upon whatever they've
seen on film the last year and a half, that
Jonathan Mingo can play. They'd rather give up a fourth
round pick for him for two years, then roll the
dice on a fourth rounder next year who might not
pan out, because that's the reality that Cuss thought was
a fourth rounder. So there's a chance you could find
somebody in the fourth round. But it's scratching off a
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lottery ticket. They apparently believe that they see enough in
Mingo that if they get him into their offense he
can be a contributor. But it's not a move for twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Four Woreo was a human dingleberry.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Thank you. Sorry, Well that's the way to reset over
the years. Yeah, that's a way to reset.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I got a bunch here for you. By the way, Hey,
real quick. What's going on with the Deshaun Watson situation.
Obviously he's out for the year. I saw a story
I think on your website as well that the Browns
are being kind of mum on his future. I mean,
what are their options when the season comes to and
then moving.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Forward, Well, they don't have to plan, but they have
to pay him, and if they would cut him, it
would accelerate bonus money and create exorbitant cap charges next
year or the year after. They can keep him on
the roster and just pay out the forty six million
he's due fully guaranteed next year with a cap hit
of seventy two million, the forty six million he's fully
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guaranteed in twenty twenty six with a cap hit of
seventy two million, and then in twenty twenty seven there's
a lingering thirty million dollar cap charge based upon prior
money paid to him that they pushed into future years.
Do they have to play him? No, The question is
when are they going to admit they screwed this up?
Everybody knows. I said this to day on PFD Live.
The Browns are the guy who came out of the
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bathroom with toilet paper stuck to their shoe and everyone
sees it, and they see it, but they refuse to
acknowledge it. That's what this is for the Browns, because
they should have been sellers at the deadline. They should
have moved far more than Za Darius Smith's. They should
have moved any veteran who's not going to be there
two or three years from now to be part of
the resurrection once they get out from under the Deshaun
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Watson contract, because then they get draft picked that they
can get young players, chief players with and have a
roster to balance out Watson. But that would be admitting
that they screwed up there, so hell bent on not
admitting they screwed up, that they're only going to make
their situation.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Worse, Mike.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Every year we talk to you about, oh, look at
all this parody in the NFL. Everybody's you know, four
and five, But this year, nine teams have only two wins.
Where's the parody gone this year? Why are there so
many dumpster fires? We've already had our first coach fired.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
I mean, it's we've had two fires.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Robert Tla and it's right.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Dennis Allen, and I just think this is a reality
that sometimes you play these games as a winner, there's
a loser, and it just works out in a certain
way that a cluster of teams end up losing and
losing and losing losing. You've got most of those two
win teams at two and seven, A couple of them
are two and six. Will one of them get hot? Possibly?
You know, there's always a team that's just hovering around
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five hundred New Thanksgiving that finds the gas pedal and
they have this mindset of urgency because they know they
can't lose any more games or many more games. So
it's like the playoffs in December. And then by the
time they get to the playoff, they might be dangerous
because it's like, hey, it's been the playoffs for the
last six weeks. But it's stunning to see more than
a fourth of the league in a position where they
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can essentially acknowledge we're done, we're done, we're probably done.
And I think the key for any team is to
be competitive path Banksgiving. You want to be competitive path
Banksgiving because you want your fans to show up for
December games. You want the kids to want the jerseys
of your star players. You want people to be engaged
and excited to watch your team. You want to be
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alive when we get into the Christmas holiday season for
a playoff. For could be a lot of teams are
done by the time we get to the holidays. In
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Guys gonna say the Hawks had one of those two
win teams on their schedule, but they lost to the
Giants who were now doing seven. All right, dude, great stuff. Man,
appreciate it. We're talking a week buddy.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Thanks Mike Big.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Mike Florio with us on the radio show. Orio is
a human Dingleberry. We are at the five twenty bar
and grill.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
We got a lot more to get to, including Factor
fiction coming up. It's Wednesday. It's Jackson's Day. Next ninety
three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Mud from the r in Our Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick Gone your Home for
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three kJ r F M.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I saw tweet today and I thought about you, by
the way, buddy, which your uh uh, Well.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You get two buddies here. It wants to be my
buddy for this segment. Jackson is your case my motor
oil tweet?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
No, I saw that. That was good.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
That was good.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I like when I can uh decipher your tweets, you know,
and not have you really tell the world what the
hell you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But I know, I know what I know. I know.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
There was a tweet about Geno Smith leading the NFL
in passing yards.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
When I thought to myself, if Dick.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Fane sees that, he's gonna just come back with some snarky,
smart ass response like is there a more worthless status quarter?
I saw your tweet the other day. Which one was it?
You said, like hoorah or whatever? What was that in
regards to I forget what it was, probably a something
about Gino It's like, oh my god, dude, this is like,
this is just becoming like that little annoying kid in
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the league of their own running up and down the
busts with his pinata or with a pin wheel.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
Na.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you this is like your
thing now, man, Well, I just this is your thing.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I just think that our our exuberance. And I said
this after the Atlanta game. Yeah, as good as he
was in the Atlanta game, I was like, let's let's
chill out a little bit on Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
The dude is what he is, and huge numbers were thought.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
He was really good in the Atlanta game.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
He was really good in the Atlanta I found your
tweet most passing yards in a week nine Gino Smith
three sixty three, to which Dick Fane says, hurrah. Yeah,
did that get us anything the three hundred and sixty
three yards except the loss?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know, I mean Hugh's Hughes numbers are unbelievable, which
you know in the red zone?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Okay, gotcha right, right right?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Once again, forty five quarterbacks have had two hundred attempts
or more since the beginning of last season. He is
forty second of forty five and passer rating in the
red zone thirty six to forty five, and success rate
thirty ninth to forty five, and touchdown interception ratio and
forty second out of forty five in completion percent.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean that is okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
That's Bryce young stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Why in the red zone?
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Then?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Why does PFF have him ranked as the tenth graded
quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Because he's good between the twenties.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And that's good enough just for number ten to begin
in the twenties. He's twenty third in QBR. He's number
ten a courtesy of Pro Football On third in QBR
is twenty third QBR is not very good. PFF got
him number ten ranked in the NFL. His passer rating
is nineteenth in the NFL, right behind Patrick Mahomes. But
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obviously Mahomes has a much better resume than Gino Smith does.
I got Corbyn Smith Jackson drooling all over social media
about how great Gino is and how crappy the offensive
line is. I got Dick in the other ear telling
me how how crazy Gino, how bad Gino is inside
the red zone, how much we're throwing the ball. I mean,
do we like this guy or not? I can't figure
it out.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I like it as a city, Yeah, I like Gino.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
I don't like Gino enough to keep him here on
the same contract he's on right now for another two years.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Okay, I just think it's time.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Listen, you guys know, like I was fully in the
hand of if you get a good offer of like
a first and a Secon round for DK, go forward,
because I'm ready to kind of move into the next
era of Seahawk football. I want to see loading up
on the lines, especially offensive line. I want to see
less investment in the skill players, and I want to
see eventually a new quarterback to lead this team for
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the next era.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
So Gino Smith just real quick as a thirty eight
point five million dollar cap hit next year. Dick and
I were talking about this earlier in the year that
if Geno proves it and you gotta wait until the
year's over. Both of us felt comfortable with a two year,
eighty million dollar extension, which is forty million dollars a year,
which is what Daniel Jones is making and literally puts
him almost right there in the middle of the pack
as far as starting quarterbacks in the NFL, that's fine.
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Are you willing right now to give Gino Smith two
years eighty million dollars?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
If we have a plan.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
What's the plan.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
What's the succession plan to Gino?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Small succession plan? Yes, like a game p It's like.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
We have with Gino Smith.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You were caught in NFL purgatory, right, because Geno Smith's
top end is a ten ish win quarterback, right, and
his bottom end is a seven or eight ish win quarterback.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I mean that's what he is.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
He is one of the middle five or six quarterbacks
in the NFL. And sure, I'll still say he's a
top half quarterback, but that's more because there's just sixteen
awful starters in the NFL. More so than I really
like Gino, But I just keep going back to.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
The nine games we've played this season and.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Asking yourself, how many of those nine games has Geno
been a good to really good quarterback? And I have
come up with two, and that's Detroit and Atlanta. Can
you come up with a third.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
This season where he's really, really, really good?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yes, a third game other than out of nine, other
than Detroit and Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Let's see, I thought he was I thought he was
pretty good against the Patriots three of forty four, three
twenty seven, seventy five percent touchdown, no picks. Okay, passer
rating a one ozh three good, I'll take that, Okay, right,
I thought he was good.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Atlanta, I thought he was good.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Okay, probably probably threw the ball way too much against
the Niners. Giants not so much. Uh yeah, I mean
he had a nine. Yeah, But again, the context is
the offensive line. If they had a better offensive line,
how much better would Gino Smith be? So I think
we just got to figure out, like what is Gino Smith?
Is Gino Smith good enough to be the franchise quarterback
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for a couple of years, or is Gino Smith the
guy that you simply could have got to start looking elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
He's good enough to be a franchise quarterback if your
goal is nine or ten wins in a first round
playoff loss.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Let's get to factor fiction right now. Where's that to go?
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Speaker 1 (24:09):
Hi Jackson, we need to hear pal. We're hurting. We're hurting, buddy, Yeah,
we're hurt.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
We haven't discussed this.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I'm a little nervous because Jackson hasn't run by any
games with this and usually does.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You know what I think? I think at this point
and just throw a dart at the right, That's what
it is. No discussion necessary.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Or just stick with your guns, Jackson. Just because it
moved one point, shit moved you move you off your
favorite that's a big point. That's too big of a
point for me.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
We've discussed this every single week, and what is discussing?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Get us nothing?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Nothing? No more talking. All right, I'm done talking. Just
make a stupid pick. Jackson, you're up.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
What do you got.
Speaker 9 (24:39):
There's a lot of hate in my hearts and I
and I hate the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh yeah, I let it out. So I'm in the
order of the Emperor.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
I'm gonna go with the Buccaneers plus six. But there's
a lot of reasons why I'm going with the Buccaneers
plus six, more than just the hate of the forty
nine ers last night, I mean Monday night.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Excuse me.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
I think the Buccaneers played.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Pretty well and a team.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
By the way, if they've beaten the Commanders this year,
they've beaten the Lines this year, they've beaten the Eagles
this year. They're on a three game losing streak. They're
at home against the Chiefs, coming off of a just
a narrow loss in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
This is a Buccaneers.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
Yes, they're down on wide receivers, but they're playing well
at home, getting you know, nearly a touchdown. So I
hate the forty nine ers. Give me the Buccaneers plus
six at home.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I like Tampa. I've always liked Tampa.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
This year, I think they've gotten you know, riddled by
the injuries, for the wide receivers.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But here's the here's the issue twofold.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
One short week for Tampa, bye week for San Francisco.
You've got one team coming off six days arrest, one
team coming off fourteen days.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
Yeah, whatever, I don't really care.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Secondly, there's a there's a guy named Christian McCaffrey coming
back for San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
That makes a world of difference.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
All right, those so you were lukewarm on my pick yesterday,
I'm lukewarmer.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I mean, makes no difference. Is that when we're throwing
with throwing darts. Okay, go for it, all right. We're
taking the bucks plus the points.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
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Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
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Speaker 1 (26:54):
That's up man, where you been has been around?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That guy will be in tomorrow right yes, flying to
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Avenue Kings dot Com from Champs Sports Bar on North
Atherton Street to swing on by. And I was able
to take Mario Bailey's credit card out of his wallet
yesterday during.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The Hawk Show. We're gonna cool. Oh yeah, we're gonna
load it up. Baby, We're gonna go nuts on Friday.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Anyway, it's time for a little fun with audio slash.
Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen
to hear that?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
We'll just say we start in college basketball in the
locker room last night, Danny Sprinkle picking up his first
win as head coach of the Huskies basketball team, youw
ad pat Shun, interrupting his postgame speech to awards, sprinkle
the game ball.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
So hey, this is UH win number one ten here today.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Coach, we'll take you.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
But this is his first You guys got him his
first one. Uh, you guys know how hard this worst
first one.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
Was getting umber, cheasing even harder.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
But Coach and rats would appreciate all the hard work
that your guys have done, and we got a long kah.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I was watching some of that game this afternoon. You
know what I like?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I like thirty eight free throw attempts. You know what
I don't like is making twenty one of them.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
By the way, the line was a mass.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You don't how many times they had thirty eight free
throw attemps last year? Zero none, zero, I was thirty
three teams never got to the free Well, I mean
this great osa bar. I mean, he's as advertised, right,
I mean, my god, what were his numbers last night?
He was unbelievable yesterday at fifteen points, seventeen boards, three assists,
six deals.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I saw twenty cents.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
The first time since Blake Griffin in two thousand and
eight that the guy had fifteen points seventeen boards and
six deals.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, he is going to be the anchor of that
basketball team. I need to see some more help around him,
though I didn't see that yesterday. Zoom played pretty well.
I know we'll spend some more time later on in
the show. Came breaway game down for sure, But let's
talk about from that game.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
No doubt. All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to here?
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Though?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Joel Embiid was suspended three games yesterday for shoving Philadelphia
Inquire columnist Marcus Hayes. On his Fox Sports one show today,
Craig Carton reacted to the NBA's handling of this is mention,
you really want.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
To punish Joe l Embiid, wouldn't you make him play
three games?
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Do you imagine you've got to play it? You gotta
play three games.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
I can't play these back to back three games, but
I'll play a three games.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So to the NBA and the Sixers, we all say.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
What I mean, if that's hurt, you gotta go out
there and play hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
We don't care. Just go out there and play. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I'm kind of I find myself defending Embiid in this regard.
And look, I'm not going to talk about, you know,
whether he's hurt, whether he's not hurt, whether he's soft,
whether he's notf sought not soft, because I got no idea.
I do get tired of all the guys taking all
these games off. I agree with you, there's too many
damn games. If you've got games where people don't even
want to play, there's too many games.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Okay, So I totally agree on that.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I just think any time a guy mentions the dude's
dead brother and son in his column, he can go
to hell. And Joel Embid was justified. He should have
smacked the hell out of him. Hell, let alone shove
the guy.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
It was uncalled for for for what the columnist did.
There's no question about that. My question with Joe Embiid
is simply, if you don't have an injury designation by
your team, then why aren't you playing.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Blame them you said that yesterday. Blame the Sixers. They're
not putting, they're not giving him any help, right, I mean.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Is he soft?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Is he known as a soft guy around the NBA?
I got no idea. Every time I watch him play.
He's pretty physical, right.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
He's known as an injury plagued guy, and he has
been for years.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
He was coming out of college. He was an injury
plague guy.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Okay, So is that because he's soft or is it
just the way the ball is bounced?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Like? Is he literally just.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Not tough and doesn't want to suck it up and
go out there? I mean, that's hard to qualify. I
get that.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Like CJ.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Prosie took a lot of heat for being banged up
a lot, where Shot Penny took a lot of heat.
I don't think we're Shot Penny was soft. I mean
Shot Penny was tough as hell. He just couldn't stay healthy.
So what's the deal with this guy?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I don't know. He just can't stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's it? Uh, Dick? Yes, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
We'll stick with this topic on this podcast this week.
NBA guard Patrick Beverley reacting to Oh, this is what
I think.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I agree. I'm gonna find myself agree with this.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
I think he.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Reacted to him being only shoving Marcus as for mentioning
Joelle's son and dead brother in the recent article.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
I don't condone violence. I repeat, I do not condone violence.
But some just need a little huh. I ain't telling
you the whioblem, but some people go out they way
to try to like be bad, be mean, be nasty
like and that's not the way to go. First off,
you don't talk about the dead. Everyone knows that. You
don't talk about the dead. Secondly, you don't speak on
anyone's kids. Those are two No.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
No, his dead brother wouldn't be proud of him.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
That's so tough to say.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
I'm gonna tell you something, though, rowan Joel better than me.
Oh yeah, I would have gave him may nots. You
know what may notaz is what's that may go away?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
May not? You know me? I think he's right.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
And now now that he actually said what he said,
did he really say his dead brother would not be proud? Like,
what's the point of that? What is the point of that?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Unless you want to be just a jerk and dig
the knife? There's just no point to that.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
It crosses the line.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I mean the guy should be flashed, fires asked, he
should be suspend, pull its credential.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
If Joel's gonna get suspended for pushing him.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
He should get suspended for right.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Listen, Jackson, we're doing the show here from the five
to twenty. People are coming down and trying to have
a good time, and we're screaming and yelling here in
the corner like jackasses.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
We've already had one lay Jackson.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
By the way, two lovely ladies.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
They were just staring at Softy during Crosstock, going who
is this?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
What is that? What is that thing over there?
Speaker 6 (32:37):
All right here?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
One more dick? Did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
All right?
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Fresh off a twenty nine nine blowout lost Arizona Bear
to Wai, receiver DJ Moore joined Bernstein and Holmes. That's
our buddy Larry Holmes out there, Lawrence Holmes on six
seventy the score in Chicago and gave a not so
strong endorsement for his head coach, Matt Eberfleiss. I wonder
from the outside, has Mat Eberfluce lost his football team?
Speaker 5 (33:02):
To ask you, has Matt Eberflus lost his football team?
Speaker 6 (33:06):
I want to say no. The mesa yesterday was that
we we know we're from before now it's just like
being Zarrow zero.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I I gotta tell you, I didn't understand a word
he said.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
I said, I want to say, no.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Okay, got you.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
I'm ringing a ringing endorsement for head coach little Positan afterwards.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
I want to say no.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I mean, how do you How do you have that
football team with that kind of talent and be that
bad and they're gonna turn it over to somebody else.
I mean, eber Fless has gone. Because eber Fleiss is
gonna be gone, then Shane Waldron's gonna be gone. They're
gonna find a new offensive coordinator. I mean, this is
just like the easiest call in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
How often does that actually work when you have a
head coach that is on the precipice of being fired
and instead.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
You're like, all right, we're gonna give you a one
year's stay of execution.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And bring in a new offensive coordinator. How often does
that ever work and save.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
The head coaches job? Not very often, I mean I can't.
I mean has By.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Lake had met John Donovan for one year and then
got whacked and they all went out, partly because John
Donovan could't run offense. That was part of it all right,
we're gonna break. Petros Papadacas is all fired up. He'll
join us next on ninety three to three kJ RFM.
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