November 7, 2024 • 34 mins
In the first hour, Dick Fain and Hugh Millen talk about year one for Mike Macdonald with the Seahawks compared to year one for Jedd Fisch with Washington, discuss more on the Hawks and UW at Penn State this week before Fact or Fiction and Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hugh Breed Love Millan joins us. And it's always sunny
when Hugh joins us, no question about it. Uh the first,
you know, Hugh, and as we as we talk about,
you know, the good mood that the sun brings us today.
I have been kind of the one on this on
this you know, afternoon radio show this fall that has
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been kind of the Debbie Downer like continued, which is
kind of unusual for me. You know, I'm the snow
globe guy. I'm the glass half full guy historically. But
you know, I think what we've seen in Seattle sports
this year with the you know, the crack and missing
the playoffs and firing their coach, and the Seahawks missing
the playoffs and firing their coach, and then this year
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Seahawks team starting slow, the Mariners team missing the playoffs
and firing their coach. I mean, it's just like it's
been one team after another deciding we're blowing this thing
up and going in a different different direction, and this
this Seahawks team. I have had two football teams this year.
As you know, I love them just about equally, kind
of like my kids. You love them quote unquote just
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about equally right, and one of my favorite teams has
encouraged me all season, one of my favorite teams has
kind of angered and frustrated me this whole season, and
this past weekend was just a microcosmo that just an
absolute dictionary definition of why I've felt the way I've
felt all year. Not that the Huskies have been great
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by any stretch of the imagination. All year, they haven't
been great, but I feel like they've been playing cleaner
and cleaner football every single week. After being the most
penalized team in the Big Big Ten and almost the
most penalized team in football over the first month of
the season, they've averaged five penalties for thirty seven yards
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per game over the last four weeks. I feel like
it's kind of a good football team that just was
kind of stuck in the mud offensively when it came
to the red zone. Maybe it got unstuck against USC
as they were much much better in the red zone.
And meanwhile, I've got this other football team over here
that plays on Sundays that it just looks lost to me,
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particularly on the offensive end. It looks like seven to
ten is not out of the realm of possibility. It
looks like last place is not out of the realm
of possibility, and maybe I kind of want to hear
from you where you are on those two teams big
picture and also kind of where you are on my vibe.
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Is my vibe too positive on the dogs? Is my
vibe too negative on the Seahawks?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, I think we have to be careful, and I
of course include myself in this, but you know, we're
brought on, we're paid to bring opinions, and so you
gotta do it, and sometimes you gotta be careful, Okay,
Am I just being a dog on a bone on
this thing. And you know, I think the best course
from my own self, as I say, hey, always just
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follow where the evidence leads. And it's okay to change
your mind because if you had, if you're at some
point in an express opinion that's based on certain data
and observations that you've made, well, then at a later
time then you have more information upon which to uh
to form an opinion, right, And so you know, I
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personally I feel like it's you could throw a blanket
a towel over both of them. I think they're about
the same. I mean you could I think you could
make arguments for one over the other. Uh, certainly, you know,
I think they're they're both right around five hundred. Washington's
done some good things, but you know they beat Michigan
and USC. Well guess what the last time that Washing,
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Michigan and USC rather were a combined five hundred or less,
which they are at five hundred now, and Michigan and
still got to play h at Indiana at Ohio State.
USC has got they've got Notre Dame, and who do
they have this week? But anyway, I kind of felt
like in looking at their schedule, the likelihood was would
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be there at five hundreddian Yeah, I mean if you
just said, well, I'll just say this, if Vegas, if
you just went by Vegas, Betty nods right now, they're
going to be a combined five hundred.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
The last time that happened is nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So if you're excited about being beating USC and Michigan,
well that's tall hat fee cattle.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Right, And you're in college then, right, or high school.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Feels that way, right, Yeah, I was a Richard senior.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But but and then and you know, but if you
have to offset again that against losing to Rutgers, Indiana
and Washington State. You say, well Indiana's better, Well, okay,
then if you're gonna be if you're gonna blow Trump,
it's about being Michigan and USC because of their history. Yeah,
then then you have to say, well, Indiana is not
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a historical team historical team either. So to me, I honestly,
I feel like you could make a credible argument for
either one. And I think there's problems and and because
you're in your one the same things where you're giving
a lot of mulligans.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And passes for the Huskies.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I think the idea that you were gonna come in
with Mike McDonald and Ryan Grubb, that newness on both
sides of the ball, and you were gonna just say, okay,
we're gonna go from nine to eight and then we're gonna,
you know, just ball from there be a twelve or
thirteen win. I never really bought into that. I think
that's unlikely, just because you've got to you've gotta implement
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those schemes. They've got to take hold, they gotta you know,
they got to marinate a little, they gotta bake, they
gotta be be part of I've just always said it
felt that they'll be much better next year or even
the second half defensively, if you go by Baltimore in
Mike McDonald's first year as the defensive coordinator. I've cited
those stats that, you know, a real significant jump all
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the way up to number one in fewest points allowed
over the second half of the year in McDonald's first
year coordinating the Raven defense. So I don't know if
Seattle has that in them, but I think that there's pieces.
I think there's a lot of pieces on that defense.
They're pretty close from a personnel standpoint of what they
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need to do. Now it's just to to you know,
there's probably a couple of positions we'll talk about that
they need to replace. But I probably feel more concerned
about the offense for the CRS.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I also feel like there's this phenomenon going on where
fans of both the Huskies and the Hawks. We've got
this group of people in the Seattle area. They're fans
of both like I am, like you are. I feel
like they are so much more willing to show patience
to McDonald and Grub than they are Jedfish in his
coaching staff. I mean, I mentioned all the penalties at
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the beginning of the year for Jedfish, people just jumping
all over him. The call against you know, at the
end of the game against Washington State. Yeah, it was horrible.
People were jumping all over him, and it just engendered
this not only is Jedfish, Yeah, he's not gonna stick around.
He's an idiot too, right, I had that kind of that.
I kind of felt that vibe surrounding Jedfish. And I
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don't feel like, even though they played much better football
the last few weeks, I don't feel like the fan
base is giving him a lot of slack. Whereas I
do think that as sloppy as the Seahawks have been
and you know, just unprepared looking at times the Seahawks
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have been, I feel like the fingers are pointed elsewhere. Oh,
the offensive line is terrible. All they had injuries on
their defense. Oh, Gino Smith is bad. Like I always
feel like the fan base is giving McDonald and grub
a pass based upon the circumstances they are in, and
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I don't think they're giving the same to Jedfish.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You feel that, well, that's interesting that you say that,
and certainly I wouldn't want to invalidate your perception, because
obviously that's that's a valid perception.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's your perception, and for.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Whatever means you're acquiring that perception, that's legit. My opinion
is actually the opposite. I actually feel and I'm not
just saying that to be contrarian on a radio segment.
I feel like there's a total mulligan for Jedfish because
he came up and he only had you know, one
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or two starters from from a year ago, and this
unprecedented nature of the of the changing of the guard,
and there's a feeling, hey, look what he did at Arizona.
UH took a one win team and then in three years.
I feel like it's actually the dynamic you're talking about,
the opposite. I feel like, you know, some of the
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sloppiness UH against the Cougars in the clock management and
the and the ridiculous play call on fourth and one,
that there's eight eight terrible reasons to carve him up,
and Rutgers and the and and and the UH the
in dis point, I feel like everybody's just been oh, well, yeah,
but your one, we'll evaluate him next year. I don't know,
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I feel like there's been more patients for the Huskies
and and and you know what, maybe maybe the fact
that you and I are having different perceptions that way,
maybe maybe the simple answers is just right in the middle,
and it's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know, but but yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Text us four nine four or five to one. We'll
read some of your texts and textimonials at four forty five.
Are you more on on my side where you feel
like you know McDonald and Grubb or kind of getting
the pass and and I think the Husky fans don't
really like Fish much so they're trying to stick it
to them. Or are you more on here's the of
thinking where hey, everybody's just giving Jed Fish a pass
and they're not going to even start judging Jed Fish
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as a coach until until next September four nine four
five one. We'll talk to Rick new Eisl when we
come back on ninety three point three KJR FM.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
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Now back to Sofie and Dick on your Home for
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Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well Jackson is efforting right now. Are you efforting. I'm
efforting to contact Rick new Heisl. Efforting is a thing.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Efforting is a thing.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yes, Jack Jackson is efforting to contact Rick new Heisel,
and we get him on. You know, we've talked in
weeks past that you know, sometimes it's a it's a
hit and miss process getting getting Rick on. But uh,
Jackson will continue to effort and and you we'll talk
to him. I want to talk to you about some
of the things I was gonna talk to Rick about
regarding not just the Huskies but also you know, the
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USC game and the Penn State game to come. But
but first I want to I want to follow up
on something that was interesting that you said in the
last segment about I believe you said that the Seahawks
defense you felt like it was you saw pieces or
it was like getting close. I don't know exactly what
your your exact words out there, but how many how
many players on this defense do the Hawks have that
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you see as starters on a championship caliber defense. How
close are we, at least personnel wise, to having the
type of defense that you think Mike McDonald can put
together into a top five dominant defense in the league.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, I think that there's the majority of that team
can be a championship level team.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You know, the acquisition of Jones, the middle linebacker, and
if you can sign him, I think that that was
a big upgrade. I mean, here's a guy that's only
twenty four years old. He's gonna be uh oh geez,
I just realized he has my birthday. He's gonna be
He's he's gonna turn twenty five here in a couple
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of weeks, and so I think you're you're good with him.
I think that the defensive line is every bit as
good as what the Ravens had. For sure, it might
not be the most dominant line, but when they're healthy,
I I don't think you're gonna bring Nuosu back. I
think Draymond Jones. I think there's a couple of a
piece there that that have to be upgraded. Dodson at
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at weekside linebackers probably the guy in my mind, out
of eleven starters, assuming an eleven personnel team, uh, Dodson
would probably be the the guy that I think would
be the first to be replaced. I don't think you
have your championship level will linebacker but I think you
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know you got Witherspoon. Uh, he's certainly elite. I think
that Julian Love you can win a championship with him.
I think Kobe Bryant has been a big surprise over
the last couple of weeks. I think I think you're
competitive at safety. I think Rieke Willans made some mistakes,
but but his ceiling is really high. Trey Brown over,
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you know where you play Witherspoon, I think is a
topic of great debate, at least none other than in
my mind because I just watched the tape and I
wonder would he better be better off is just put
him at shut down corner? Because I think it can
be great wherever he is. Sometimes he's overmatched when he
tries to play that Nickel sam position where the physicality
is as fice as he is and a great tackler
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and an unbelievable burning competitor. I just love the competitiveness
in him. There's sometimes that you know the wave is
just is just too tall. The wave of physicality coming
at him at tight ends, and two hundred and fifteen
pound receivers are coming at him. He just doesn't have
the stature to play hardball sometimes inside, but he's a
phenomenal player. Williams is still you know, having think a
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really good season. In Mafey and Hall, I think there's
something there. I think those guys are coming into their prime.
So I think that that the pieces are there to summarize, Yeah,
one or two pieces on the defensive line, but in
an outside linebacker.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
But other than that, I think you're in good shape.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think that you just have to take a look
at what the Ravens defense is doing this year or
not doing this year without Mike McDonald. I mean, I
think that's usually a fairly good indication of what type
of coach you had before. And the Ravens defense is
getting shredded and will likely get shredded once again tonight
by the Cincinnati Bengals, and that just didn't happen when
Mike McDonald was there last year. And I think also,
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you know, flip flipping back to the Huskies, you know
what the Arizona Wildcat offense is not doing this year? Yeah,
with McMillan, who everybody thought, man maybe the best receiver
in college football, with Noah Fafieda, the guy we wanted
to bring up here, and all of a sudden. You know,
it's the SI offense that's top twenty in college football
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and yards per play, and Arizona's struggling as Jedfish moves
from Arizona to Washington. So I mean, those are good
signs when the team that your coach left is now
stinking on that side of the ball, and the team
that you have, hopefully you know, we'll excel in the
future like the Seahawks. We hope will in the second
half of.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
The biggest question, yeah, with the Husky offense is can
demand Williams throw the football? Because thus far he has
one hundred and six.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Six plays. Actually this was going into last week.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I'm sorry, this is this is my notes from last Friday,
prior to that Sea game. But he had one hundred
and six plays, and in those one hundred and six plays,
he had two completions where the ball traveled more than
ten yards from the last script. So yeah, yeah, that
you could see as athleticism that pops out on anybody,
right right, nobody would We'd be blind enough to not
see how electric he can be with the football in
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his hands. But and he looks good throwing the football
comes off his hands nice the ball spins.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well, so you look and you say, look, he's.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Got passing talent, But is he accurate? And accuracy is
a combination of two things. Yes, yes, it's the very
fine motor skills of uh in your fingertips at that
last second you let the ball go? Can you direct
that football to the place you want.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
To direct it to?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
But that that's really talking about static accuracy. Like a
baseball pitcher, right, can you can you hit the glove?
Are you talented enough with your actuality to hit the glove? Well,
a catcher has got a stationary glove, obviously. The other
part of accuracy is the dynamic part. What I think
neurologists and and and experts in that field would tell
us the right brain is the creative side, and you're
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you're kind of like processing how a moving target will move,
and you're you're you're trying to lead guys out in front,
And so can you be dynamically accurate?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think I'm not.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'm not saying this in a disparaging sense that that
he's proven to me that he can't. I'm just saying
it's a great unknown, and we haven't seen any abundance
of evidence to show that he can, because he's missed
on a lot of stuff, particularly down the field. His
downfield misses have been have been not close. Yes, yeah,
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throughout this season.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And I think wouldn't you say that's pretty par for
the course for a true freshman quarterback in college football?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I mean, there's there's examples of guys that have come
in and and and and played really well throwing the
football as freshman. But I would say, is it likely
that he'll improve on that?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But right now, if you just say, evaluate the tape
and then don't tell me what class he's in, if
you're scouting Demon Williams, you'd say, okay, little guy, vision
is going to.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Be a problem.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So he needs to have a requisite amount of athleticism
to correspond to his height. I think that there's a
in a general rule, if the shorter yard, the more
athletic you need to be. So does he have that
requisite amount of athleticism. Absolutely he does. Absolutely. So you
can envision his style of play moving around, making guys
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miss read zone, being a factor in the running game,
closing a gap in the running game, that type of thing.
We get that, but does he have the ability to
throw the ball down the field? Look, I think he
felt comfortable when he was doing mop up duty at Iowa.
He had a nice intermediate ball over the middle, relatively
wide open. That was one of his again two completions
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in the entire season where the ball's ten yards are
more from line of scrimmage, but the other times down
the field. I'm just going to be like, I'm waiting
going to withhold judgment because I haven't seen the accuracy yet.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I would like to go back and look at tape
on twenty fifteen Kyler Murray at Texas A and M
when he was a fresh I mean, I have the
numbers in front of me. I don't remember what it
looked like. And he was a fifty nine percent completion
percentage guy with a with a one less than one
to one touchdown to interception ratio. And by the time
he was a junior at Oklahoma, he was a sixty
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nine percent completion guy with forty two touchdowns and seven interceptions. So,
I mean, and obviously in a really designed around him
type offense.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I think that citing completion percentage, while there's some relevance there,
they can't be denied. I always every time I hear that,
I'm I'm like going, whoa nelly? Like, I'm you like
yanking on the bit.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Because he went from five point seven yards pert tempt
to eleven point six yards per Yeah, well that I.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Can promise you that as more correspondence to what you
just cited, more correspondence to winning correlation.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So and his air yards, by the way, went from
three point eight to thirteen.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, that's why he wins a he and that's why
he's the number one overall player. But if you went
back and saw him as a freshman, I mean his
yards went to from three these three point eight nine
are yards pretty because completion percentage I the next question.
If you tell me it's high, like a guy's a
sixty seven percenter, Well, how many are those are bubble
screens and wide receiver screens and little stick routes. And
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if then if you want to if you want to
crush a guy because he's fifty four percent, well how
many of those are down the field? And you know,
is he getting chunk plays when he's what's his yards
per completion? Because if he's if he's airing it out
and you obviously the more you throw down the field.
This ought to be actually amatic for everybody. The more
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you throw down the field, the lower your completion percentage
is going to be. Right, So so to just side
cite completion percentage and and failed to mention any any
complementary statistic, which is his frequency with which he throws
the ball down the field, then to me that that's
a relatively.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Empty stat com across the board. Air yards, pretty a tempt,
the yards per completion, you know, all those just went
massively up from fresh Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But but then as you kept talking, now you start just
if you want to form a statistical picture. Now you say, okay,
what's his yards per attempt? What's his airy yards? Now
we can start to you know, the pictures less fuzzy.
We start to have at least a blurry picture for
now of what he did. But absent any corresponding statistic,
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completion percentage means next to nothing to me.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So we got a couple minutes left before factor fiction.
The Huskies are heading into the lions Den. I mean,
no pun intended, but I guess there is a pun there.
I mean wide out Saturday Night, Top five, probably toughest
place to win. Right now, at least in college football.
Maybe not historically, but probably right now. I mean, is
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is it is it the environment that is giving the
Huskies the biggest problem them going into Saturday's game? Or
is it the football team that's giving and the talent
on the field that's giving the Huskies? Because I've seen
Penn State three or four times. I think they're a
good team. I don't think they're a team that on
a neutral field kicks Washington's ass, though. I mean, I
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just I just don't see that is So is it
the environment that we have to worry more about than
actual the Jimmy's and Joe's on that football team? Uh?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I think the environment is a big deal. They've they've
proven that they're just not coming together on the road
when adversity hits you. You know, they're not responding well,
you know, they just kind of let it get away
from them. I haven't sensed a great deal of a
fight from the football team.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
When especially when second half, when things going downhill.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, when you say, okay, there's a point where okay,
things are are are going against this a little bit.
But we but we still got plenty of time, right
we can we can turn momentum around. But we got
gets some collective piss and vinegar, and we got to
come together on this thing. And I don't I just
don't see the overt signs of that happening. I mean,
I think, you know, when you look at Penn State,
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Drew Aller's been around a long time, big guy. You know,
the NFL is looking at him, probably a mid round pick,
so I think he's a quarterback who can bet they
got a tight end. And Tyler Warren it's just out
of sight, right, And but I think that their receivers
beyond that. I mean Tyler Warren as fifty one catches,
the next closest guy is less than half of that
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at twenty four. You know that you just watch the
receivers and nothing, to the eye looks like a playmaking.
You know when you can when you compare them to
for example, how State, who always has these incredible receivers,
you know the quality of playmaking you have on the perimeter.
For Penn State, Washington has the corners. They got to
win that matchup, Muck up this game, get out of
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there with a nineteen seventeen win, because you are are
able to, you know, play with the heavy box. Let
you play one on one on the perimeter, not worry
about their relatively pedestrian receivers and try and find a
way to cover their tight end and get out in
that regard.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know, Factor fiction time, Let's go for right now,
where's that to go?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
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Speaker 1 (24:41):
There's an axiom. There's actually a few axioms in all
these degenerate gambling podcasts that I listened to over the
course of the week. One of them is you always
bet Mike Tomlin as an underdog. That's one that pays
it like well over sixt Another one is believe it
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or not. While you always bet Patrick Mahomes as an
underdog or a favorite of three or less, just always
do it. It'll pay. You should always bet against Patrick
Mahomes and the Chiefs. As more than a touchdown favorite,
and the numbers this year would actually back that up.
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They beat Baltimore by seven, They beat Cincinnati by one,
they beat Atlanta by five, they beat the Chargers by seven,
they beat Vegas by seven. They beat Tampa Bay on
Monday Night by six in overtime. There is six games
right there. I gave you that. If you just stuck
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with that axiom and always bet the Chiefs says more
than a touchdown favorite, which they were in just about
all those games, not all of them, but almost all
those games, it would pay off. I see a Chiefs
team that comes limping in on a short week, Patrick
Mahomes literally limping in on a short week on a
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bad wheel against a Denver Bronco team who got absolutely
humiliated last week. Denver lost forty one to ten. They
have been licking their wounds ever since that embarrassing loss
to Baltimore. I got an angry in Division team getting
more than a touchdown seven and a half points against
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Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, who just yes, find ways
to win, but they don't find ways to cover. And
that's what we're doing here. We got to cover the
seven a half point spread. I don't think they do, Jackson,
give me the Broncos plus the seven and a half.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Against the Chiefs where it's the game Kansas City. Yeah,
I don't love the picktick, but I'm gonna make this quick.
We've all been terrible this year. I've been really bad,
Safie's been really bad. You've been a little bit less bad.
So I don't know. I don't like the pick, but
that probably means people should tax fact.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Fair enough fact. I mean, I gave you the reasons why.
But if you want, Hey, if you want to go
fiction at four nine, four or five to one in
the Imo Queen Casino Factor fiction contest, because you have
faith in Patrick Mahomes to win and cover, I can't
fault you for that. He's the greatest quarterback on the planet.
I'm just giving you the reasoning that historically, Patrick Mahomes
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does not cover more than seven point spreads at nearly
a fifty percent clip. So I'm going with the numbers.
I'm going with the history. Give me the Broncos plus
the seven and a half fact of fiction four nine,
four or five to one text fact if you think
the Broncos will cover that spread fiction if you think
the Chiefs will win by more than seven points on Sunday.
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All right, Coming up next, we've got Fun with Audio
followed by a nice breakdown with Hugh Millen at four o'clock.
We are gonna dive deep into the Seahawk offense and
we'll play a little blame game. How much on Grubb?
How much John Gito? How much on the offensive line.
We'll do that at four o'clock with factor of fiction
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or excuse me, Fun with audio coming out next on
night three point three KJRFN. It's now time for Sufday
in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
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Speaker 1 (28:18):
Now let's have some fun with audio. Ah Yes, Fun
with audio time four fabulous cuts that I've been carefully
prepared by Jackson Feltz. We're gonna start with a little
busting with the boys. Hey, Hu, did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Dick on barstools? Busting with the Boys podcast this week
Former NFL linebacker Sean Merriman. Remember Sean Merriman, Hugh, that
dude was a hitter, and he was a hitter from
very very early in his career. In fact, all the
way back to his freshman year in high school. He
explains how he got the nickname lights out.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
High school put four players unconscious in the first half
of a high school football game.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Yeah, so what happened was it was it was a
school that was like talking a lot. They were talking
a lot of and so I just started like striking people, right.
I remember, like a like parents were coming on the field,
like standing in the end zone, grabbing the rest, grabbing
a commissioner basically saying that the coaches would held to
be back for two years, not knowing that I was
the youngest.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And so that happened.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
After the game, about twenty twenty five suits coming run
uner to me and they said, you knock those kids
lights out. And I just, you know, kind of played
off cool. I didn't think it was gonna happen. I said, yeah,
you know what called me lights out. I got to
school on Monday and I got my backpack on and
I got my books in my hand. It was like, yo,
good game, lights And I was like, you know, it's
kind of caught on already. You people, you know, heard
about it. And so I went home and I said, ma,
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look this, you know, people called me lights out. I
want to get this this lights out tattooed on my
right forearm. I came back every single day for two weeks,
and finally she took me to go get this light
switch with a hand cutting the lights out on my
right form, and that became a thing.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
How badass do you have to feel?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Now?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Keep in mind here he said he was the youngest
player on the high school varsity team, and there are
parents from the other team running out on the field
accusing him of being like a super senior. And he's
the youngest player on the team and he knocks four
dudes out in a high school game.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Mike, goodness, I'm just old school enough to think that
that's pretty badass. Yes, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's a
contact game, you know, in a boxing ring. Gets what
you're supposed to do. You're supposed to knock people out.
He hit him right in the head, and so, I
don't know. I think it's great if you've earned the
nickname lights out. I can't think of a much better
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nickname for a defensive point.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
No question about her. Hey, Hugh, you hear that?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Legendary broadcast Bob Costas sat down with Tom Berducci on
the MLB Network this week and explained why he is
retiring from play by play. When did it occur to
you that this might be your last year?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Not, Mike, I knew for more than a year that
this would be the end of it. You and I
discussed at about a year and a half ago, and
I felt that I couldn't consistently reach my past standard.
There might have been individual games, or stretches within games,
or moments in games that were just the same as
if it was the nineteen nineties or the early twenty
first century, but I couldn't string enough of them together.
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And I have too much regard for the game, for
the craft, and for whatever my own standard has been,
to hit beneath my lifetime batting average. Players have this
advantage over people in almost any other profession. My guy
Mickey Mantle hit well below as lifetime average his last
few years, but even a kid who never saw him
play can go to Baseball Reference and see what the
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career was like. And I just felt like in the
last couple of years I couldn't quite reach that. And
what I hoped for this year, the people I worked
for it knew it and a few other people knew it.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I just hoped to end on a grace note. And
what's been unfortunate about the legends of the game, like
bobcas and like al Michaels, who's still doing it, is
that they're getting criticized on social media for not sounding
like they're having a lot of fun doing the game.
And you know, we've heard al Michaels on that. We'll
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hear him tonight, right there's ay Night Football on Amazon.
And it does seem like al Michaels spends more time
complaining about how long an official takes or how long
this game is going to go on. And I get it,
sounds like he's got dinner reservations wherever he goes. But
al Michaels is a freaking legend, is that he is
one of the great top five American sportscasters of all time.
(32:37):
So I guess you just I kind of just give
al Michaels a pass. Personally, I kind of give Bob
Costas a pass for, you know, going on and telling
three minute stories while he's calling a baseball game instead
of calling each pitch. But you know, that's just me.
But I think I think other people that don't have
that didn't grow up with Bob Costas and Al Michaels
like I did. They're going like, all right, who's this
old dude? Get him out of here.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, I haven't heard Costs through the radio, So I
can't comment on that. As far al Michaels. Something's missing there.
I mean, there's no question he's Mount Rushmore of NFL
play by play guys. I think at his best he
was phenomenal. I don't know that it's a great pairing
with Herbstreet. I mean Herbstreet obviously he has much more
knowledge and zeal for the college game. That just comes
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through very plainly, and so I don't know they have
great chemistry that you know, they they're not crazy about
the games they get. Amazon paid them both a lot
of money, or at least I remember looking up a
few weeks ago. What I mean, it's like seventeen to
eighteen million. I mean, it's just money Michaels cannot turn down.
But I don't know that if he still has the
fire and final thought on that. Yeah, there are some
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people that are so legendary, like Keith Jackson. I'll just
speak for myself my opinion when Keith Jackson was still
doing the ros I was like, you are such a
so iconic your voice, your style. I don't care if
you're fifty percent of you used to be thirty you know,
a fraction of what you used to be. That about it,
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just the fact that you're in there. I don't care
if you get the numbers and the names wrong and
the yard line is wrong. I just love hearing you
because you enhance a broadcast. So I don't know. For
some people, I think Costas has that that engenders that
type of allegiance in the baseball sphere, you know, you know,
I don't know, but it is sad when you see
these guys and they do decline.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
But at least he has a self awareness.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
And you mentioned her Street. Their condolences to the herb
Street family. I don't know if you saw that his
legendary dog Ben, Yeah, he had put They had to
put Ben down today. All right, let's take a time
out three fifty four on ninety three point three KJRFM.
When we come back, we got to play a little
fix the Hawks offense and a little blame game. Where
does it go? Gino the line? Ryan Grubb? Obviously some
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goes to all, But where does most of it go?
We'll talk about it with you next on ninety three
point three KJRFM
Hugh Breed Love Millan joins us. And it's always sunny
when Hugh joins us, no question about it. Uh the first,
you know, Hugh, and as we as we talk about,
you know, the good mood that the sun brings us today.
I have been kind of the one on this on
this you know, afternoon radio show this fall that has
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been kind of the Debbie Downer like continued, which is
kind of unusual for me. You know, I'm the snow
globe guy. I'm the glass half full guy historically. But
you know, I think what we've seen in Seattle sports
this year with the you know, the crack and missing
the playoffs and firing their coach, and the Seahawks missing
the playoffs and firing their coach, and then this year
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Seahawks team starting slow, the Mariners team missing the playoffs
and firing their coach. I mean, it's just like it's
been one team after another deciding we're blowing this thing
up and going in a different different direction, and this
this Seahawks team. I have had two football teams this year.
As you know, I love them just about equally, kind
of like my kids. You love them quote unquote just
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about equally right, and one of my favorite teams has
encouraged me all season, one of my favorite teams has
kind of angered and frustrated me this whole season, and
this past weekend was just a microcosmo that just an
absolute dictionary definition of why I've felt the way I've
felt all year. Not that the Huskies have been great
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by any stretch of the imagination. All year, they haven't
been great, but I feel like they've been playing cleaner
and cleaner football every single week. After being the most
penalized team in the Big Big Ten and almost the
most penalized team in football over the first month of
the season, they've averaged five penalties for thirty seven yards
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per game over the last four weeks. I feel like
it's kind of a good football team that just was
kind of stuck in the mud offensively when it came
to the red zone. Maybe it got unstuck against USC
as they were much much better in the red zone.
And meanwhile, I've got this other football team over here
that plays on Sundays that it just looks lost to me,
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particularly on the offensive end. It looks like seven to
ten is not out of the realm of possibility. It
looks like last place is not out of the realm
of possibility, and maybe I kind of want to hear
from you where you are on those two teams big
picture and also kind of where you are on my vibe.
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Is my vibe too positive on the dogs? Is my
vibe too negative on the Seahawks?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, I think we have to be careful, and I
of course include myself in this, but you know, we're
brought on, we're paid to bring opinions, and so you
gotta do it, and sometimes you gotta be careful, Okay,
Am I just being a dog on a bone on
this thing. And you know, I think the best course
from my own self, as I say, hey, always just
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follow where the evidence leads. And it's okay to change
your mind because if you had, if you're at some
point in an express opinion that's based on certain data
and observations that you've made, well, then at a later
time then you have more information upon which to uh
to form an opinion, right, And so you know, I
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personally I feel like it's you could throw a blanket
a towel over both of them. I think they're about
the same. I mean you could I think you could
make arguments for one over the other. Uh, certainly, you know,
I think they're they're both right around five hundred. Washington's
done some good things, but you know they beat Michigan
and USC. Well guess what the last time that Washing,
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Michigan and USC rather were a combined five hundred or less,
which they are at five hundred now, and Michigan and
still got to play h at Indiana at Ohio State.
USC has got they've got Notre Dame, and who do
they have this week? But anyway, I kind of felt
like in looking at their schedule, the likelihood was would
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be there at five hundreddian Yeah, I mean if you
just said, well, I'll just say this, if Vegas, if
you just went by Vegas, Betty nods right now, they're
going to be a combined five hundred.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
The last time that happened is nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So if you're excited about being beating USC and Michigan,
well that's tall hat fee cattle.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Right, And you're in college then, right, or high school.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Feels that way, right, Yeah, I was a Richard senior.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But but and then and you know, but if you
have to offset again that against losing to Rutgers, Indiana
and Washington State. You say, well Indiana's better, Well, okay,
then if you're gonna be if you're gonna blow Trump,
it's about being Michigan and USC because of their history. Yeah,
then then you have to say, well, Indiana is not
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a historical team historical team either. So to me, I honestly,
I feel like you could make a credible argument for
either one. And I think there's problems and and because
you're in your one the same things where you're giving
a lot of mulligans.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And passes for the Huskies.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I think the idea that you were gonna come in
with Mike McDonald and Ryan Grubb, that newness on both
sides of the ball, and you were gonna just say, okay,
we're gonna go from nine to eight and then we're gonna,
you know, just ball from there be a twelve or
thirteen win. I never really bought into that. I think
that's unlikely, just because you've got to you've gotta implement
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those schemes. They've got to take hold, they gotta you know,
they got to marinate a little, they gotta bake, they
gotta be be part of I've just always said it
felt that they'll be much better next year or even
the second half defensively, if you go by Baltimore in
Mike McDonald's first year as the defensive coordinator. I've cited
those stats that, you know, a real significant jump all
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the way up to number one in fewest points allowed
over the second half of the year in McDonald's first
year coordinating the Raven defense. So I don't know if
Seattle has that in them, but I think that there's pieces.
I think there's a lot of pieces on that defense.
They're pretty close from a personnel standpoint of what they
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need to do. Now it's just to to you know,
there's probably a couple of positions we'll talk about that
they need to replace. But I probably feel more concerned
about the offense for the CRS.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I also feel like there's this phenomenon going on where
fans of both the Huskies and the Hawks. We've got
this group of people in the Seattle area. They're fans
of both like I am, like you are. I feel
like they are so much more willing to show patience
to McDonald and Grub than they are Jedfish in his
coaching staff. I mean, I mentioned all the penalties at
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the beginning of the year for Jedfish, people just jumping
all over him. The call against you know, at the
end of the game against Washington State. Yeah, it was horrible.
People were jumping all over him, and it just engendered
this not only is Jedfish, Yeah, he's not gonna stick around.
He's an idiot too, right, I had that kind of that.
I kind of felt that vibe surrounding Jedfish. And I
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don't feel like, even though they played much better football
the last few weeks, I don't feel like the fan
base is giving him a lot of slack. Whereas I
do think that as sloppy as the Seahawks have been
and you know, just unprepared looking at times the Seahawks
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have been, I feel like the fingers are pointed elsewhere. Oh,
the offensive line is terrible. All they had injuries on
their defense. Oh, Gino Smith is bad. Like I always
feel like the fan base is giving McDonald and grub
a pass based upon the circumstances they are in, and
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I don't think they're giving the same to Jedfish.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You feel that, well, that's interesting that you say that,
and certainly I wouldn't want to invalidate your perception, because
obviously that's that's a valid perception.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's your perception, and for.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Whatever means you're acquiring that perception, that's legit. My opinion
is actually the opposite. I actually feel and I'm not
just saying that to be contrarian on a radio segment.
I feel like there's a total mulligan for Jedfish because
he came up and he only had you know, one
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or two starters from from a year ago, and this
unprecedented nature of the of the changing of the guard,
and there's a feeling, hey, look what he did at Arizona.
UH took a one win team and then in three years.
I feel like it's actually the dynamic you're talking about,
the opposite. I feel like, you know, some of the
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sloppiness UH against the Cougars in the clock management and
the and the ridiculous play call on fourth and one,
that there's eight eight terrible reasons to carve him up,
and Rutgers and the and and and the UH the
in dis point, I feel like everybody's just been oh, well, yeah,
but your one, we'll evaluate him next year. I don't know,
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I feel like there's been more patients for the Huskies
and and and you know what, maybe maybe the fact
that you and I are having different perceptions that way,
maybe maybe the simple answers is just right in the middle,
and it's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know, but but yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Text us four nine four or five to one. We'll
read some of your texts and textimonials at four forty five.
Are you more on on my side where you feel
like you know McDonald and Grubb or kind of getting
the pass and and I think the Husky fans don't
really like Fish much so they're trying to stick it
to them. Or are you more on here's the of
thinking where hey, everybody's just giving Jed Fish a pass
and they're not going to even start judging Jed Fish
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as a coach until until next September four nine four
five one. We'll talk to Rick new Eisl when we
come back on ninety three point three KJR FM.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Sofie and Dick on your Home for
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Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well Jackson is efforting right now. Are you efforting. I'm
efforting to contact Rick new Heisl. Efforting is a thing.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Efforting is a thing.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yes, Jack Jackson is efforting to contact Rick new Heisel,
and we get him on. You know, we've talked in
weeks past that you know, sometimes it's a it's a
hit and miss process getting getting Rick on. But uh,
Jackson will continue to effort and and you we'll talk
to him. I want to talk to you about some
of the things I was gonna talk to Rick about
regarding not just the Huskies but also you know, the
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USC game and the Penn State game to come. But
but first I want to I want to follow up
on something that was interesting that you said in the
last segment about I believe you said that the Seahawks
defense you felt like it was you saw pieces or
it was like getting close. I don't know exactly what
your your exact words out there, but how many how
many players on this defense do the Hawks have that
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you see as starters on a championship caliber defense. How
close are we, at least personnel wise, to having the
type of defense that you think Mike McDonald can put
together into a top five dominant defense in the league.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, I think that there's the majority of that team
can be a championship level team.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You know, the acquisition of Jones, the middle linebacker, and
if you can sign him, I think that that was
a big upgrade. I mean, here's a guy that's only
twenty four years old. He's gonna be uh oh geez,
I just realized he has my birthday. He's gonna be
He's he's gonna turn twenty five here in a couple
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of weeks, and so I think you're you're good with him.
I think that the defensive line is every bit as
good as what the Ravens had. For sure, it might
not be the most dominant line, but when they're healthy,
I I don't think you're gonna bring Nuosu back. I
think Draymond Jones. I think there's a couple of a
piece there that that have to be upgraded. Dodson at
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at weekside linebackers probably the guy in my mind, out
of eleven starters, assuming an eleven personnel team, uh, Dodson
would probably be the the guy that I think would
be the first to be replaced. I don't think you
have your championship level will linebacker but I think you
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know you got Witherspoon. Uh, he's certainly elite. I think
that Julian Love you can win a championship with him.
I think Kobe Bryant has been a big surprise over
the last couple of weeks. I think I think you're
competitive at safety. I think Rieke Willans made some mistakes,
but but his ceiling is really high. Trey Brown over,
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you know where you play Witherspoon, I think is a
topic of great debate, at least none other than in
my mind because I just watched the tape and I
wonder would he better be better off is just put
him at shut down corner? Because I think it can
be great wherever he is. Sometimes he's overmatched when he
tries to play that Nickel sam position where the physicality
is as fice as he is and a great tackler
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and an unbelievable burning competitor. I just love the competitiveness
in him. There's sometimes that you know the wave is
just is just too tall. The wave of physicality coming
at him at tight ends, and two hundred and fifteen
pound receivers are coming at him. He just doesn't have
the stature to play hardball sometimes inside, but he's a
phenomenal player. Williams is still you know, having think a
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really good season. In Mafey and Hall, I think there's
something there. I think those guys are coming into their prime.
So I think that that the pieces are there to summarize, Yeah,
one or two pieces on the defensive line, but in
an outside linebacker.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
But other than that, I think you're in good shape.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think that you just have to take a look
at what the Ravens defense is doing this year or
not doing this year without Mike McDonald. I mean, I
think that's usually a fairly good indication of what type
of coach you had before. And the Ravens defense is
getting shredded and will likely get shredded once again tonight
by the Cincinnati Bengals, and that just didn't happen when
Mike McDonald was there last year. And I think also,
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you know, flip flipping back to the Huskies, you know
what the Arizona Wildcat offense is not doing this year? Yeah,
with McMillan, who everybody thought, man maybe the best receiver
in college football, with Noah Fafieda, the guy we wanted
to bring up here, and all of a sudden. You know,
it's the SI offense that's top twenty in college football
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and yards per play, and Arizona's struggling as Jedfish moves
from Arizona to Washington. So I mean, those are good
signs when the team that your coach left is now
stinking on that side of the ball, and the team
that you have, hopefully you know, we'll excel in the
future like the Seahawks. We hope will in the second
half of.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
The biggest question, yeah, with the Husky offense is can
demand Williams throw the football? Because thus far he has
one hundred and six.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Six plays. Actually this was going into last week.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I'm sorry, this is this is my notes from last Friday,
prior to that Sea game. But he had one hundred
and six plays, and in those one hundred and six plays,
he had two completions where the ball traveled more than
ten yards from the last script. So yeah, yeah, that
you could see as athleticism that pops out on anybody,
right right, nobody would We'd be blind enough to not
see how electric he can be with the football in
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his hands. But and he looks good throwing the football
comes off his hands nice the ball spins.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well, so you look and you say, look, he's.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Got passing talent, But is he accurate? And accuracy is
a combination of two things. Yes, yes, it's the very
fine motor skills of uh in your fingertips at that
last second you let the ball go? Can you direct
that football to the place you want.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
To direct it to?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
But that that's really talking about static accuracy. Like a
baseball pitcher, right, can you can you hit the glove?
Are you talented enough with your actuality to hit the glove? Well,
a catcher has got a stationary glove, obviously. The other
part of accuracy is the dynamic part. What I think
neurologists and and and experts in that field would tell
us the right brain is the creative side, and you're
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you're kind of like processing how a moving target will move,
and you're you're you're trying to lead guys out in front,
And so can you be dynamically accurate?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think I'm not.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'm not saying this in a disparaging sense that that
he's proven to me that he can't. I'm just saying
it's a great unknown, and we haven't seen any abundance
of evidence to show that he can, because he's missed
on a lot of stuff, particularly down the field. His
downfield misses have been have been not close. Yes, yeah,
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throughout this season.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And I think wouldn't you say that's pretty par for
the course for a true freshman quarterback in college football?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I mean, there's there's examples of guys that have come
in and and and and played really well throwing the
football as freshman. But I would say, is it likely
that he'll improve on that?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But right now, if you just say, evaluate the tape
and then don't tell me what class he's in, if
you're scouting Demon Williams, you'd say, okay, little guy, vision
is going to.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Be a problem.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So he needs to have a requisite amount of athleticism
to correspond to his height. I think that there's a
in a general rule, if the shorter yard, the more
athletic you need to be. So does he have that
requisite amount of athleticism. Absolutely he does. Absolutely. So you
can envision his style of play moving around, making guys
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miss read zone, being a factor in the running game,
closing a gap in the running game, that type of thing.
We get that, but does he have the ability to
throw the ball down the field? Look, I think he
felt comfortable when he was doing mop up duty at Iowa.
He had a nice intermediate ball over the middle, relatively
wide open. That was one of his again two completions
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in the entire season where the ball's ten yards are
more from line of scrimmage, but the other times down
the field. I'm just going to be like, I'm waiting
going to withhold judgment because I haven't seen the accuracy yet.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I would like to go back and look at tape
on twenty fifteen Kyler Murray at Texas A and M
when he was a fresh I mean, I have the
numbers in front of me. I don't remember what it
looked like. And he was a fifty nine percent completion
percentage guy with a with a one less than one
to one touchdown to interception ratio. And by the time
he was a junior at Oklahoma, he was a sixty
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nine percent completion guy with forty two touchdowns and seven interceptions. So,
I mean, and obviously in a really designed around him
type offense.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I think that citing completion percentage, while there's some relevance there,
they can't be denied. I always every time I hear that,
I'm I'm like going, whoa nelly? Like, I'm you like
yanking on the bit.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Because he went from five point seven yards pert tempt
to eleven point six yards per Yeah, well that I.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Can promise you that as more correspondence to what you
just cited, more correspondence to winning correlation.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So and his air yards, by the way, went from
three point eight to thirteen.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, that's why he wins a he and that's why
he's the number one overall player. But if you went
back and saw him as a freshman, I mean his
yards went to from three these three point eight nine
are yards pretty because completion percentage I the next question.
If you tell me it's high, like a guy's a
sixty seven percenter, Well, how many are those are bubble
screens and wide receiver screens and little stick routes. And
(20:16):
if then if you want to if you want to
crush a guy because he's fifty four percent, well how
many of those are down the field? And you know,
is he getting chunk plays when he's what's his yards
per completion? Because if he's if he's airing it out
and you obviously the more you throw down the field.
This ought to be actually amatic for everybody. The more
(20:37):
you throw down the field, the lower your completion percentage
is going to be. Right, So so to just side
cite completion percentage and and failed to mention any any
complementary statistic, which is his frequency with which he throws
the ball down the field, then to me that that's
a relatively.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Empty stat com across the board. Air yards, pretty a tempt,
the yards per completion, you know, all those just went
massively up from fresh Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But but then as you kept talking, now you start just
if you want to form a statistical picture. Now you say, okay,
what's his yards per attempt? What's his airy yards? Now
we can start to you know, the pictures less fuzzy.
We start to have at least a blurry picture for
now of what he did. But absent any corresponding statistic,
(21:27):
completion percentage means next to nothing to me.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So we got a couple minutes left before factor fiction.
The Huskies are heading into the lions Den. I mean,
no pun intended, but I guess there is a pun there.
I mean wide out Saturday Night, Top five, probably toughest
place to win. Right now, at least in college football.
Maybe not historically, but probably right now. I mean, is
(21:54):
is it is it the environment that is giving the
Huskies the biggest problem them going into Saturday's game? Or
is it the football team that's giving and the talent
on the field that's giving the Huskies? Because I've seen
Penn State three or four times. I think they're a
good team. I don't think they're a team that on
a neutral field kicks Washington's ass, though. I mean, I
(22:16):
just I just don't see that is So is it
the environment that we have to worry more about than
actual the Jimmy's and Joe's on that football team? Uh?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I think the environment is a big deal. They've they've
proven that they're just not coming together on the road
when adversity hits you. You know, they're not responding well,
you know, they just kind of let it get away
from them. I haven't sensed a great deal of a
fight from the football team.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
When especially when second half, when things going downhill.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, when you say, okay, there's a point where okay,
things are are are going against this a little bit.
But we but we still got plenty of time, right
we can we can turn momentum around. But we got
gets some collective piss and vinegar, and we got to
come together on this thing. And I don't I just
don't see the overt signs of that happening. I mean,
I think, you know, when you look at Penn State,
(23:10):
Drew Aller's been around a long time, big guy. You know,
the NFL is looking at him, probably a mid round pick,
so I think he's a quarterback who can bet they
got a tight end. And Tyler Warren it's just out
of sight, right, And but I think that their receivers
beyond that. I mean Tyler Warren as fifty one catches,
the next closest guy is less than half of that
(23:33):
at twenty four. You know that you just watch the
receivers and nothing, to the eye looks like a playmaking.
You know when you can when you compare them to
for example, how State, who always has these incredible receivers,
you know the quality of playmaking you have on the perimeter.
For Penn State, Washington has the corners. They got to
win that matchup, Muck up this game, get out of
(23:53):
there with a nineteen seventeen win, because you are are
able to, you know, play with the heavy box. Let
you play one on one on the perimeter, not worry
about their relatively pedestrian receivers and try and find a
way to cover their tight end and get out in
that regard.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know, Factor fiction time, Let's go for right now,
where's that to go?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Glad you're with us.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
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Speaker 1 (24:41):
There's an axiom. There's actually a few axioms in all
these degenerate gambling podcasts that I listened to over the
course of the week. One of them is you always
bet Mike Tomlin as an underdog. That's one that pays
it like well over sixt Another one is believe it
(25:02):
or not. While you always bet Patrick Mahomes as an
underdog or a favorite of three or less, just always
do it. It'll pay. You should always bet against Patrick
Mahomes and the Chiefs. As more than a touchdown favorite,
and the numbers this year would actually back that up.
(25:26):
They beat Baltimore by seven, They beat Cincinnati by one,
they beat Atlanta by five, they beat the Chargers by seven,
they beat Vegas by seven. They beat Tampa Bay on
Monday Night by six in overtime. There is six games
right there. I gave you that. If you just stuck
(25:46):
with that axiom and always bet the Chiefs says more
than a touchdown favorite, which they were in just about
all those games, not all of them, but almost all
those games, it would pay off. I see a Chiefs
team that comes limping in on a short week, Patrick
Mahomes literally limping in on a short week on a
(26:07):
bad wheel against a Denver Bronco team who got absolutely
humiliated last week. Denver lost forty one to ten. They
have been licking their wounds ever since that embarrassing loss
to Baltimore. I got an angry in Division team getting
more than a touchdown seven and a half points against
(26:31):
Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, who just yes, find ways
to win, but they don't find ways to cover. And
that's what we're doing here. We got to cover the
seven a half point spread. I don't think they do, Jackson,
give me the Broncos plus the seven and a half.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Against the Chiefs where it's the game Kansas City. Yeah,
I don't love the picktick, but I'm gonna make this quick.
We've all been terrible this year. I've been really bad,
Safie's been really bad. You've been a little bit less bad.
So I don't know. I don't like the pick, but
that probably means people should tax fact.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Fair enough fact. I mean, I gave you the reasons why.
But if you want, Hey, if you want to go
fiction at four nine, four or five to one in
the Imo Queen Casino Factor fiction contest, because you have
faith in Patrick Mahomes to win and cover, I can't
fault you for that. He's the greatest quarterback on the planet.
I'm just giving you the reasoning that historically, Patrick Mahomes
(27:22):
does not cover more than seven point spreads at nearly
a fifty percent clip. So I'm going with the numbers.
I'm going with the history. Give me the Broncos plus
the seven and a half fact of fiction four nine,
four or five to one text fact if you think
the Broncos will cover that spread fiction if you think
the Chiefs will win by more than seven points on Sunday.
(27:46):
All right, Coming up next, we've got Fun with Audio
followed by a nice breakdown with Hugh Millen at four o'clock.
We are gonna dive deep into the Seahawk offense and
we'll play a little blame game. How much on Grubb?
How much John Gito? How much on the offensive line.
We'll do that at four o'clock with factor of fiction
(28:07):
or excuse me, Fun with audio coming out next on
night three point three KJRFN. It's now time for Sufday
in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
Jimmy g poort Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Now let's have some fun with audio. Ah Yes, Fun
with audio time four fabulous cuts that I've been carefully
prepared by Jackson Feltz. We're gonna start with a little
busting with the boys. Hey, Hu, did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Dick on barstools? Busting with the Boys podcast this week
Former NFL linebacker Sean Merriman. Remember Sean Merriman, Hugh, that
dude was a hitter, and he was a hitter from
very very early in his career. In fact, all the
way back to his freshman year in high school. He
explains how he got the nickname lights out.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
High school put four players unconscious in the first half
of a high school football game.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Yeah, so what happened was it was it was a
school that was like talking a lot. They were talking
a lot of and so I just started like striking people, right.
I remember, like a like parents were coming on the field,
like standing in the end zone, grabbing the rest, grabbing
a commissioner basically saying that the coaches would held to
be back for two years, not knowing that I was
the youngest.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And so that happened.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
After the game, about twenty twenty five suits coming run
uner to me and they said, you knock those kids
lights out. And I just, you know, kind of played
off cool. I didn't think it was gonna happen. I said, yeah,
you know what called me lights out. I got to
school on Monday and I got my backpack on and
I got my books in my hand. It was like, yo,
good game, lights And I was like, you know, it's
kind of caught on already. You people, you know, heard
about it. And so I went home and I said, ma,
(29:38):
look this, you know, people called me lights out. I
want to get this this lights out tattooed on my
right forearm. I came back every single day for two weeks,
and finally she took me to go get this light
switch with a hand cutting the lights out on my
right form, and that became a thing.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
How badass do you have to feel?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Now?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Keep in mind here he said he was the youngest
player on the high school varsity team, and there are
parents from the other team running out on the field
accusing him of being like a super senior. And he's
the youngest player on the team and he knocks four
dudes out in a high school game.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Mike, goodness, I'm just old school enough to think that
that's pretty badass. Yes, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's a
contact game, you know, in a boxing ring. Gets what
you're supposed to do. You're supposed to knock people out.
He hit him right in the head, and so, I
don't know. I think it's great if you've earned the
nickname lights out. I can't think of a much better
(30:38):
nickname for a defensive point.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
No question about her. Hey, Hugh, you hear that?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Legendary broadcast Bob Costas sat down with Tom Berducci on
the MLB Network this week and explained why he is
retiring from play by play. When did it occur to
you that this might be your last year?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Not, Mike, I knew for more than a year that
this would be the end of it. You and I
discussed at about a year and a half ago, and
I felt that I couldn't consistently reach my past standard.
There might have been individual games, or stretches within games,
or moments in games that were just the same as
if it was the nineteen nineties or the early twenty
first century, but I couldn't string enough of them together.
(31:18):
And I have too much regard for the game, for
the craft, and for whatever my own standard has been,
to hit beneath my lifetime batting average. Players have this
advantage over people in almost any other profession. My guy
Mickey Mantle hit well below as lifetime average his last
few years, but even a kid who never saw him
play can go to Baseball Reference and see what the
(31:40):
career was like. And I just felt like in the
last couple of years I couldn't quite reach that. And
what I hoped for this year, the people I worked
for it knew it and a few other people knew it.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I just hoped to end on a grace note. And
what's been unfortunate about the legends of the game, like
bobcas and like al Michaels, who's still doing it, is
that they're getting criticized on social media for not sounding
like they're having a lot of fun doing the game.
And you know, we've heard al Michaels on that. We'll
(32:12):
hear him tonight, right there's ay Night Football on Amazon.
And it does seem like al Michaels spends more time
complaining about how long an official takes or how long
this game is going to go on. And I get it,
sounds like he's got dinner reservations wherever he goes. But
al Michaels is a freaking legend, is that he is
one of the great top five American sportscasters of all time.
(32:37):
So I guess you just I kind of just give
al Michaels a pass. Personally, I kind of give Bob
Costas a pass for, you know, going on and telling
three minute stories while he's calling a baseball game instead
of calling each pitch. But you know, that's just me.
But I think I think other people that don't have
that didn't grow up with Bob Costas and Al Michaels
like I did. They're going like, all right, who's this
old dude? Get him out of here.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, I haven't heard Costs through the radio, So I
can't comment on that. As far al Michaels. Something's missing there.
I mean, there's no question he's Mount Rushmore of NFL
play by play guys. I think at his best he
was phenomenal. I don't know that it's a great pairing
with Herbstreet. I mean Herbstreet obviously he has much more
knowledge and zeal for the college game. That just comes
(33:22):
through very plainly, and so I don't know they have
great chemistry that you know, they they're not crazy about
the games they get. Amazon paid them both a lot
of money, or at least I remember looking up a
few weeks ago. What I mean, it's like seventeen to
eighteen million. I mean, it's just money Michaels cannot turn down.
But I don't know that if he still has the
fire and final thought on that. Yeah, there are some
(33:44):
people that are so legendary, like Keith Jackson. I'll just
speak for myself my opinion when Keith Jackson was still
doing the ros I was like, you are such a
so iconic your voice, your style. I don't care if
you're fifty percent of you used to be thirty you know,
a fraction of what you used to be. That about it,
(34:05):
just the fact that you're in there. I don't care
if you get the numbers and the names wrong and
the yard line is wrong. I just love hearing you
because you enhance a broadcast. So I don't know. For
some people, I think Costas has that that engenders that
type of allegiance in the baseball sphere, you know, you know,
I don't know, but it is sad when you see
these guys and they do decline.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
But at least he has a self awareness.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
And you mentioned her Street. Their condolences to the herb
Street family. I don't know if you saw that his
legendary dog Ben, Yeah, he had put They had to
put Ben down today. All right, let's take a time
out three fifty four on ninety three point three KJRFM.
When we come back, we got to play a little
fix the Hawks offense and a little blame game. Where
does it go? Gino the line? Ryan Grubb? Obviously some
(34:51):
goes to all, But where does most of it go?
We'll talk about it with you next on ninety three
point three KJRFM
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