February 12, 2025 • 37 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler continues to react to Super Bowl LIX with Jackson Felts, then talks to Mike Florio about Sunday’s game, Patrick Mahomes, and more NFL before Jayson Stark of The Athletic previews the baseball season; plus Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We got a short show because we got college basketball
pregame at five, tip off at five thirty with you
Dub and the buck Eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Jason Stark is going to join.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Us at three thirty or so three twenty eight and
talk some baseball with pitchers and catchers reporting in Peoria.
Mike Florio obviously is normal spot. In about six minutes
from now on the show, we'll get his thoughts on
where the Chiefs go from here. Pat Mahomes salary cap
number is gonna blow up next year? Travis Kelcey, what
does his future look like? Andy Reid? Can the Eagles repeat?
(00:33):
All that and more with Mike Florio coming up, Curtesya
simply Seattle dot Com at about five minutes from now
on the radio show, and then four o'clock we'll talk
to Petros Popinakas and then Kevin Harlan's gonna join us,
I think for a couple of segments starting at four thirty,
because we got a lot to get to with him
fresh off calling the game. And if I know Kevin Jackson,
by the way, this is a guy that lives in
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Kansas City, Okay, went to Kansas grew up a Packer fan,
because his dad worked for the Packers. His dad actually
hired my Comgren. Kevin's dad, if you guys don't know,
is Bob Harland, who was a longtime president of the
Green Bay Packers, and so he grew up a Chief fan,
but then kind of are a Packer famer that kind
of gravitated towards Kansas City. I get the feeling that
he's pissed about the way the Chiefs played on Sunday afternoon.
(01:16):
Because as a broadcaster, especially a professional one, not a
clown like us, but as a professional, what do you want?
You want a great game, right, you want to have drama,
And most of the Super Bowls lately have had a
lot of drama, you know, not like when Dick and
I were growing up and they were all blowouts like
they were back in the eighties. But I think Kevin Harlan, dude,
(01:38):
I think you might get a sense when he comes
on the air tonight, Jackson at four thirty, he might
be a little bit irritated with the way Kansas City plays.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I mean, I think most of America is irritated because
we all want a good game, right, I don't know,
nobody wants some I mean I was looking at so
many rankings over the last week of the worst Super Bowls,
in the last super Bowls of all the time. Every
single list I saw that ranked the worst super Bowls
had the Seahawks over Broncos at number one. Nobody likes
it outside of the team who wins. Outside of the
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team who wins, nobody likes a blowout. So yeah, I
mean I was angry watching the game. I'm like, this
is boring, this is terrible. The only rooting interest I
had as a Seahawks fan was making sure that the
Kansas City scored enough to make sure that this wasn't
in the conversation as the lob in forty eight.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, outside of the Rams, I mean, the Rams Patriot
game was a close game, but it was a turd
sandwich of a game. Three right, The Tampa Bay Kansas
City game was a blowout, The Denver Carolina game was
kind of a slog fest, and then obviously our game
in New York in twenty fourteen. But outside of those games,
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every game Baltimore, San Francisco, Giants, Patriots, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, I.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Mean, all of them have been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I mean, we're not seeing any blowouts, and now the
conversation about Mahomes and what does this do to his legacy? Look,
I mean, you know what, there's a lot of crap
on social media, people questioning what that game yesterday did
mahomes legacy are freaking stupid? Are you kidding me? I'm mean, dude,
the guy just got done. Go into his fifth Super
Bowl in seven years. He's been to seven straight conference
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championship games. He was an overtime and a d four
to off sides away from playing in seven consecutive games.
He's won three of us first five, which, by the way,
is exactly what Tom Brady did. He is on a
trajectory that will eventually make him the greatest quarterback in
the history of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Now does he want to play that long? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Is he gonna make enough money where he could say
I'm gonna be done by the time I'm thirty five?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I've told you on the year off the year.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think the biggest difference between Brady and Mahomes is
what Brady did when he was forty two, forty three,
and forty four years old. When the guy threw for
like thirteen thousand yards and one hundred touchdowns and drop
back two thousand times. If we're gonna sit here and
get all over Lebron about his longevity, which we should
compliment him for that, we have to do the same
thing for Tom Brady and wait to see if Mahomes
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can do that. But Jackson, guess what, that's fifteen years away.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Nobody wants to wait. Everybody wants to immediately's say, oh
my gosh, is Patrick now just shut out from the
goat debate? Like they're forgetting that the guy has ten
plus years left in his career. But that's now. That's
no fun in sports media to say, we just have
to wait to say this. So you have talking heads
go all over Dick shows and basically spout off.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
How well my Homes is done.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I mean, really, they fans shows, Dick's, Dick shows, shows
that shows. Don't say it fast, say it very slow
Dix shows. I mean I just think, yeah, I mean,
it's not fun to sit around and, like you said,
just say, let's wait fifteen years and check in with me.
But man, you know, there's a reason why teams have
never won free in a row because it's freaking hard
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as hell. I mean, outside of Buffalo. No team's gotten
there three times in a row since the nineties. Obviously
Kansas City the first team to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
So I mean they just had a gas.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They've played like twenty one extra games in the last
seven years because of the playoffs, right, They've basically played
an entire season plus Jackson and the last seven years
because they've been so damn good then.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And you see that too, I mean you just see
the wear and TEARA not to mention like this team
has had to pay a lot of different players and
pieces and things, and that's had to make them go
cheaper in certain areas like the offensive line, which I mean, boy,
I mean, my god, If this game wasn't a red
alert to every GM in the NFL John Snyder, Yeah, dude,
(05:24):
you build on the lines. You build in the front
four and the five up front. That is how you
do it in the NFL. That's how you win a
Super Bowl. If this wasn't the red alarmed to everybody
to start building that way, I don't know what is.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, we got my Floria here on the air in
a second, and we'll ask him about that. But I
think the problem is that every team has got the
same thing they're looking for, and the Seahawks have been
really bad at finding them.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
So it's kind of a fun challenge.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, we love it. I get that, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I mean, Howie Roseman right now is the best GM
in the NFL. I mean, there's no doubt the guy's
the best GAM in the NFL. I mean, you saw
the trade capital they got from the Carson wentz deeal
directly indirectly, the players they ended up with with that
trade unbelievable. But every team in the NFL is looking
for the same thing and they're damn hard to find.
And that's great, Lineman. All right, let's get to Mike Florio.
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(06:31):
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Speaker 1 (06:33):
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Speaker 2 (06:55):
But our friend Mike Florio, Michael, how are you?
Speaker 6 (06:59):
I'm but I'm confused. Why would you lie to your
audience about what? Well, the intro said, Saucy and Dick,
there's no Dick today.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You're guardy today. I've already established that we have no Dick.
He's not here. Yeah, he's gone.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Well, song to be tuning in now for this segment.
If they only listen to your show on Wednesdays at
three ten pm to hear me, they would be confused
and they wouldn't necessarily have been lied to. So I
think you need to mention at the top of every
segment and periodically during it that you have no Dick today.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
No Dick today. He's back next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
By the way, we have our big President's Day show
and he is out until then uh down thirty four zip,
third quarter, twenty three yards at halftime for Kansas City.
You've covered a lot of Super Bowls, a lot of
NFL simply put, man, how shocking was what you saw
on Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Well it was shocking, but it wasn't because the only
way the Eagles are going to win that game was
to destroy the Chiefs. And were they capable. Obviously they were.
I didn't think the Chiefs would get steamrolled the way
they did. But when you're and we're reminded of this
from time to time in the Super Bowl, when you
can generate pressure on a quarterback with four guys rushing
and you dropped seven into coverage, the walls closed in
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on the quarterback before he can find an open receiver.
And that's what we saw. And even with the greatness
of Patrick Mahomes, the Eagles were harassing him, chasing him,
hurrying him all day long. And Josh Sweat, who something
should have been the MVP of the game. A play
that will never show up on a stat sheet. He
took left tackle Joe Tooney and shoved him into my
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homes at a time that Mahomes was trying to throw
a pass and caused the interception from Zach Bond that
made it twenty four to nothing at the half and
really supplied the dagger. Seventeen nothing might have been the dagger,
but when there was no answer after that and it's
twenty four to nothing at the half, the Chiefs were done.
I made the observation on Twitter that Patrick Mahomes has
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an opportunity for his own twenty eight to three, down
twenty four to nothing, and I was surprised when they
were facing fourth and nine on the first drive of
the second half from their own forty five that they
didn't go for it because they needed points. They needed
to not let Philadelphia chew up a lot of clock
and score a field goal, which they did. That was
the moment where we were just playing out the string.
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It felt like the seventies, eighties and some of the
nineties yep, when the Super Bowl was a major letdown
because one team just completely destroyed the other and then
you're just watching what the commercials were to say that
you watched the whole super Bowl. Never turned the super
Bowl off early, And when I'm at the super Bowl,
it's not like I'm going to leave early. But it
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was a reminder of some days where man, it was
a pain in the butt getting through these Super Bowls
because they weren't fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So Patrick Mahomes' salary cap goes to sixty six point
two next year, number one, do you see that being
renegotiated to manage that a little better and simply put
with the cap going up for him?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
In any former fashion, is the window starting to close?
You think on Kansas City's shot to get a fourth one.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
It's very easy to take a big salary and chop
it down to a bonus payment that spread the cap
hit over multiple years. And when they did this contract,
look he took less than he could have gotten. And
they have tweaked it from time to time. For example,
when Jill Burrow got his dealer a couple of years ago,
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they moved money around in the Patrick Mahomes contract to
give him the same cash flow as Burrow, actually a
little better than Burrow over the next three seasons. So
they'll tweak it again this year. They'll give him more money,
they'll reduce the cap charge, and it will all continue.
That's the way the salary cap game works when you
have a franchise quarterback. It's a series of restructurings and
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extensions until the guy retires or is released or trade it,
and then there's a massive cap reckoning that you have
to accept. Just like the Vikings. I think they had
to take almost thirty million last year for Kirk Cousins.
We've seen some massive cap hits thirty five million the
first year time Brady wasn't playing for the Buccaneers. That's
just part of the game of having a franchise quarterback.
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So they'll fix it. The question is can they address
the deficiencies on the roster because when he came down
to it, and Sims and I agreed on this last
week because we were getting ready in the game. If
you go through the twenty two positions on both sides
of the ball, offensive defense and check which team had
the edge, Eagles had the edge in eighteen of the spots,
and we saw that play out. So there's a gap
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between the Chiefs and the most talented team in football
right now, the Philadelphia Eagles, And there might be a
gap between the Chiefs and the Detroit Lions when the
Lions are fully healthy. The Chiefs know how to navigate
their way to the top of the AFC. They've never
not made the AFC Championship with mahomes there, and they've
lost two in overtime. That's his floor in seven seasons,
losing in overtimes of the AFC Championships. So they're going
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to continue to compete and contend. The question is that
they're going to be good enough to avoid the debacle
that we've seen twice now, three Some Bowl wins, two
sim Bowl losses to Some Bowl lullout. That's what they
need to guard against or we're going to see this
movie play out again and again potentially over the next
ten years because they're not going anywhere in the AFC.
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The question is can they be good enough to win
Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, my florial's with us. Dick is not here today,
this man has thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I just rely on Bill Murray to make sure
everybody knows the busses thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
What about Travis Kelcey, is he back next year?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Well? One of the things I've learned over the years
is the more you talk about retiring, the more that
you are retiring and you're just coming to terms with
it and waiting for the right moment to announce it.
That he's talking about it so openly that I feel
like he's trying to come up with a reason not to,
and I don't really think there is one when you
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consider how much money he's already making away from football
nine figure deal for his podcast that he does want
a week good lord. He's an actor, he's a producer.
There's a lot more that he can do and make
a lot more money not put his body at any
further risk. I think back to after the two thousand
season when Robert Smith, the running backs of the Vikings,
unexpectedly retired from football. His argument was, I want to
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be able to lock when I'm old, and at some
point Travis Kelsey needs to ask himself how much more
am I going to do this? And if you watched again,
there were some business decisions in the second half. There's
one play where Mahomes was running all over the place
trying to gain some yardage and Kelsey is just kind
of standing there and when the guy that he could
have been blocking moved toward the ball, he made a
very half hearted effort to impede him. And maybe it's
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because he saw there was a flag and he knew
it was coming back. I don't know the regardless guys
are chasing your quarterback around and if you're just standing there,
that tells me you're somebody that doesn't want to get
an injury in what might be the last game of
your career.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Well, Andy Reid has said he wants to come back
and coach at least one more. I mean, does the
sting of this you think make him want to kind
of stick around and right the wrong or do we
maybe believe that next year is going to be Andy
Reid's goodbye to her?
Speaker 6 (13:58):
In twenty twenty three, Chiefs were concerned that Reid was
going to retire after the season. That was true, and
it might have been just a leverage play to get
the contract that he deserves. But I don't know why
Reid would walk away from this chase that he's suddenly
in very seriously to catch Bill Belichick and eventually Don
Shuloch for the all time wins record. Then there's a
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question of what else would you do when football has
been your whole life? What do you do if you retire?
You're going to walk away from this golden opportunity to
ride out multiple more seasons of Patrick Mahome's career. I
wouldn't do it, And I think ultimately the issue is
and I think back to something I read not at
the time because I was too young, if I was
even alive, But when George Hallis eventually retired from coaching,
he retired because he couldn't physically do it anymore. He
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couldn't get up and down the sideline to yell at
the officials. Your body at some point is going to
rebel against standing there. And anybody's ever gone to like
training camp or stood around a practice field for multiple hours,
it hurts to stand there, to be on your feet
for that long. And you know, Reed is getting older
as we all are. He's got a lot of baggage
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on the bones, and at some point that could be
the thing that would cause him to walk away. But
as long as he can physically do it, why would
he not do it? With Mahomes around, And they've done
a great job building a three time Super Bowl champion.
They haven't suddenly forgotten how to compile and maintain and
advance a football team. And the fact that so many
people acting are acting like the windows closed on the
Chiefs dynasty, that's only going to get more motivation. He's
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fatigue isn't over just because they lost by eighteen in
the Super Bowl. Frankly was where there's forty to six
with a couple of garbage time touchdowns. They got blown
the f out. But they're not going to go away.
They're only going to be emboldened by it.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Kellen Moore is from Prosser High School here in the
state of Washington. He played college football for Chris Peterson
at Boise State. He's thirty six, he's three years older
and Derek Carr, for God's sake, So now he's the
coach of the Saints.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Higher Well, I was talking to somebody about this yesterday.
If the NFL had a moratorium on all head coaching
hires until after the Super Bowl ended, the Saints would
have had competition for Kellen Moore because the dance card
is filled out based on the regular season. Then I
looked this up. The AP put out all the votes
from the awards that were handed out last Thursday night
for the Assistant Coach of the Year. There were seventeen
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coaches who got votes, including Eagles defensive court nator Vic Fangil,
including Eagles offensive line coach Jeff Statlin. Kellen Moore did
not get a single vote to go five deep on
fifty ballots. He did not get one point one vote.
Seventeen others did, and he's got a head coaching job. Coincidentally,
Brian Schottenheimer got the Cowboys head coaching job without getting
a single point in the assistant Coach of the Year vote.
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So it's beneficial to a team like the Saints that
targeted more and wanted more that the process plays out
and most of the seats gets filled early based upon
regular season performance, because if it would happen all over again. Now,
remember seven years ago when Josh McDaniels left the Colts
at the altar all of a sudden, Frank writes, the
hot commodity. Yeah, he wasn't after the regular season, but
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when the Eagles win the Super Bowl and put thirty
eight or whatever it was on the chief on the Patriots,
thirty six, thirty eight, whatever it was, and all of
a sudden, he's a hot commodity. That's what more would
have been if there were other jobs that were still open.
So the Saints, I think, are very happy. It's gonna
be critical now to see what his staff looks like.
Who's gonna be the offensive coordinator? Defensive coordinator is likely
going to be Brandon Staley. Interesting names floating around our
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offensive coordinator like John Gruden, who's worked with Wow, Derek Carr,
I haven't I haven't heard that officially linked, but I
won't be aprised if it happens. And Jason Garrett, who
More worked for in Dallas. I've heard that name bandied about.
So these staff hires for More are going to be critical.
And he surely already knows what he's gonna do. He's
had plenty of time to prepare for.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Mike, you're the man. Great job on radio Row with
the PFT crew as well. We're talking a week see you, buddy,
San Mike, Mike, Mike Florio shows he was on my mind.
Mike Florio with us from Pro Football Talk dot Com.
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Speaker 1 (18:12):
All right, boys and girls, back here on a Wednesday
afternoon from the Emerald Quick Casino Sportsbook. No better guy
to get on the air and talk about the start
of another baseball season. We'll see where this thing ends
up going and Seattle and our friend from the Athletic
Jason Stark, joining us on the radio program.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Jason, how are you, man, Dave? I'm great, have everything,
Everything is good.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It'd be a lot better if the Mariners would go
out and spend some money on an offense to complement
this phenomenal pitching staff. But I don't want to ask
any leading questions of you. I don't want to influence,
never do that. Yeah, your opinions at all. So why
don't you, first of all talk to all the frustrated
Mariner fans out there that's see this amazing rotation and
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yet today still don't see what they believe to be
a competent offense company eventing it.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I don't blame anybody from being frustrated. I think Jerry's frustrated.
I think justin olanders frustrated. I think their group expected
to do more, at least hope to do more, but
it isn't how it worked out. You know, they're in
a funny position in that you know they might be
a playoff team right now without doing any more than
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they've done. You know, if you look at those Pakota
projections on fangrafts last week, Plakota projected them with eighty
four wins. That's more than five teams that made the
playoffs this past year, plus the Twins who should have
made the playoffs. So as many as the Astros, it's
only one fewer than Texas, which was their Al West pick.
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So it's possible they're still a playoff team as constituted.
But when you've watched what you've watched, you live through
what you've lived through. Yep, I understand that it's hard
to get charged up a better winner like this.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well, let me let me backtrack for a second, Jason
Jason Stark again with us, because I think sometimes, honestly, man,
when it comes to the national narrative for Major League Baseball,
I know we kind of feel left out here in
the corner of the country and the old PNW three
thousand miles away from Yankee Stadium in the East Coast
and Fenway Park. But the Mariners are the only team
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left in baseball to have never made a World Series.
I mean, is that something that is starting to resonate
with people? You think across the country.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
You know, you don't want to be the Browns Baseball
really want to be that. I don't think they are.
I think they're better than that. But you know, at
some point, when does ownership feel that urgency? I guess
it would be my question. You know a lot of
people I know want to pin this on Jerry, pin
this on this front office. I would look at the
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this is kind of an odd winner and that it
doesn't fit Jerry to Poto's customary m O, does it?
You know, he started looking at some of these teams
that didn't do a whole lot, the Mariners, Braves, the
Padres think about Jerry to Poto, alex Anthopolis, aj Preller.
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Is that their personality? You know, if you go laid
back and almost sit out the winner. I don't think
it is.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
So.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
You know, one of my things is is I try
to make sense of all this is am I listening
to what people say or am I watching what they
do and I just know that Jerry Depoto's history doesn't
match this level of inactivity.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah right, Well, Jim Bowden, who you know, former GM,
was on with us about a week and a half ago,
and he's putting all of this on the ownership. I mean,
he made the analogy you Jerry is locked in some
prison south then can't even make a phone call for
crying out loud. I mean, is that kind of the
sense that you get that this is way more about
what's happening above him than some unwillingness or desire to
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not spend money by the general manager.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Well, again, just look at what you know about Jerry
to Poto, and look at what they did and what
they tried to do Darian in Sasaki. He would have
cost no money. He cost the Dodgers virtually no money.
I don't know what the odds were that he was
going to sign and seattle over the Dodgers, but they
were involved. They listened to a lot of offers for
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Luis Castio. I don't know that that was all about
cost cutting, but obviously it would have if they'd found
the right match, it would have freed up a lot
of money, and it would have brought back bats. I'm
guessing if you know at the places that you would
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expect them to trade for bats, and if they couldn't
sign an Impact, that trading for an Impact that or
two made sense. But you know, I think a lot
of it goes back to the way I started this.
As they look at their team, and they look at
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their division, and they look at the league, which really
isn't very interesting compared to the National League. You don't
want to just trade a guy like Sto to say
you did, and you don't want to trade any of
your other starters just to say you did. It's the
strength of your team if you ever make it. If
here get in, nobody want to play you because they
have to face that rotation, and so you're not going
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to do something that would make you worse. So the
things they talked about and the things we know definitively
suggest that's the deal. They just didn't have any money.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, Jason Stark is with us on the right radio show,
and I mean the biggest name, if you will, that
they've brought back is Jorge Polanco. I mean, unless you're
a big fan of Donovan Solano, or Miles Masterboni. The
biggest name recognition player is definitely Polanco, but he was
two games away from being a two hundred hitter a
year ago and is coming off of knee surgery. How
much should we expect out of Horey Polanco, especially moving
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him to third base for almost the first time in
his career.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, it's a hard one to say, you know. Right now,
I'm in the middle of doing my annual spring training
preview survey of executives, coaches, scouts, managers, some former executives
who were recently in the game, and you know, one
of the categories is best free agents Worst free Agents.
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Myners don't have any best free agent votes, but they
but hooray Polonko has gotten several worst free agent votes.
That seems telling to me. You know, I think the
I was a good player once and I understood, you know,
what the Mariners were thinking when they brought him in
the first time. This time, it just feels like they're
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hoping on health and hoping on a bounce back. He
certainly motivated. He just sits in the category of so
many guys on this team. You know that because they
have to be better offensively, and how's that going to happen? Well,
Julio could be better. Rand Rose Arena is certainly more there.
(25:32):
Jp Crawford, there's more there, Jorge Polanco, look at his
track record. There's more there. But there's a difference between
wishing for that to happen and saying, Wow, that would
really be a bonus if that happened, and needing it
to happen. Right, they need that to happen. So what's
(25:53):
the old expression? Hope is not a strategy, it's kind
of what they're stuck with. They have to hope on
guys like this.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, it fills Jason again, Jason Stark with us for
a few more minutes here on ninety three to three KJRFM,
talking some baseball from the athletic. It feels like the
hope is that the American League West is going to be,
if anything, mediocre, And if this was any other division
in baseball, the Mariners would be instantly eight or nine
ten games out before the season even begins. How much
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can Mariner fans simply rely on the rest of this
division not being very good?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
It's a big factor, you know. I think if they
played the Central it might not be that different, but
if they played in the Al East, they would have
to go about it differently. But all you need to
do in modern baseball is just get in. And it's
certainly not out of the realm of possibilities. The Mariners
(26:49):
could get in. They have the best rotation in the league.
Right It's a really good place to start. There's also
the ballpark in the way it suppresses offense, and you know,
no matter who you bring in, you do worry about
how they would fit. You know, I'm sure a lot
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of the names they kicked around for Luis Castillo, that
was a big concern. It The American League is not good.
The American League West is not good. It's hard to
look at the Astros and think they're what they were.
I don't. I don't think Alex Bragman is coming back.
Kyle Tucker is gone. Those are two extremely important players
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who were big middle of the order offensive forces, and
Bragmant in particular, was an energizer on that team. It's
one of the most important personalities on that team. Then
there's Texas. I don't know what their bullpen is going
to be, how that's going to shake out. I can't
(27:58):
tell how healthy they're going to be I think they
have the most upside of anybody. They're They're getting votes
for most improved team in the leagues. That tells me something.
I think they're probably the favorite right now, but at
a massively better than the Mariners. I don't see that.
So it's gonna be an interesting year in the life
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of the Aos.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, Jason, great stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Always appreciate your time, man, and follow Jason on Twitter
at Jason with a yst Have fun this season and
we'll talk down the road, buddy.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Appreciate you doing this.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Gonna talk to you man.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Thanks, you got a man.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Jason Stark with us from the Athletic We're gonna break
a lot more to get to On a busy Wednesday
from the Emerald Queen right here on ninety three to
three kJ RFM.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
It's now time for Sunday and Digg's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
All right, boys and girls, we're back on a busy Monday.
Excuse me, Monday. You know what, when you're at the
Emra Queen every single Monday. By the way, I look
around Jackson. I see the sports book, I see the bar,
I see the casino, and I think Monday, Monday, Monday.
But we're not off and here on a Wednesday. But
we are here today tonight for the Big Nicky Glazier Show,
which is sold out of.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
The box office.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
But venue kings dot com has tickets for one hundred
and forty bucks to get in the tour for tonight
and tomorrow, so check it out. All right, Dick is
not here. You're in the captain's seat, baby. All right,
you're stepping up to the one hole. Hey Jackson, did
you happen.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
To hear that? What's I?
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Dave?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
What's that? Dick? Good work, man, good work.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yesterday's New Heights podcast with the Kelsey Brothers, Jason opened
up and got emotional well talking about what it was
like to watch his former team blow out his brother's
team in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (29:44):
It was very, very hard to watch. As much as
I love the Eagles, as much as I love the
city of Philadelphia, there was not a bounce to me,
and I know that, like I don't know. I tried
to correlate that I was rooting for both sides the
whole time, and that I was going to be happy
and sad regardless.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
It's a unique situation that nobody could relate to. Nobody
can relate to this.
Speaker 9 (30:06):
I just don't know how to articulate that. I'm happy
for some of the Eagles, but at the same time,
I was miserable during the game, watching you not achieve
your success again. Yeah, that's the reality of it. It sucked,
and like it felt weird for me not to be cheering.
That's what it felt like. It felt like, why the
f am I not as excited, and I think it was.
It was just a emotion. And I'm so happy for
(30:29):
Jalen Hurts, I'm so happy for Nick Sirianni and all
these guys that.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
Have been through so much.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
And it was just really I did not anticipate it
being that hard.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, I could see it, man, I mean he's getting
emotional there, obviously. I'm reading a lot online about Eagle
fans are mad at Jason Kelsey because he should be
all Philadelphia like the guy's brother. For God's sakes, I'm Jackson.
I'm actually shocked he was rooting for Philadelphia at all. Yeah,
with his brother playing in the game, how much.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Do we always hear from former athletes about how you
were mercenaries, were paid mercenaries to join teams, and like,
the reality is, I'm not. Maybe Kelsey's different. So yeah,
I gotta look at how long he played with the
Eagles and maybe if he was a lifer there, Okay,
I guess it was for such kay, But still the
same time, like he is he from Philadelphia, I don't
(31:19):
think so. So at the same time, you got to
look at it and say, unless a professional athlete is
from a place, they probably just look at the organizations
as the organization that pays me to do a job.
So I don't blame them at all for going for
Kansas City because family beats your employee every day of
the week.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Well, he's from Ohio, but he played thirteen years in Philadelphia,
all right. He was there since twenty eleven. He started
one hundred and ninety three games for the Eagles. He
was a first team AP All Pro eight times seven sorry,
six times with Philadelphia. He's probably a Hall of Famer
right with the Eagles. So I get that part. But
(32:00):
he could have gone on his podcast and say, dude,
I was written for my brother the whole way, and
I would have said cool.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Family over the organization family all the time, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
All right, hey Jackson, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Let's stay with the super Bowl theme. Yesterday on ninety
seven point won the Ticket Detroit host Mike Valenti sharing
his thoughts on the Super Bowl commercials this year.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
It was the least entertained I've ever been in any
super Bowl in my lifetime. It was horrific. And the
ads enough enough, okay, Tom Brady and Snoop, What a
waste of money? Oh? I hate you, you hate me, Newslesh.
Nobody who watched that like, I'm sorry if you were
catering to like an ardent racist somewhere, Newsflesh, you didn't
(32:45):
change anybody's mind. There's a waste eight million bucks. I
don't need to hear about girls flag football in all
fifty states. Not interested. I do not need ads for Jesus,
literal Jesus. What are we doing eight million dollars a pop?
If you are not a religious person, those commercials didn't
make you start. How about this beer boobs burgers laughter,
(33:08):
that's America? What are we doing? The commercials were awful.
The only one I liked was the Sloth commercial, which
may as well have been filmed in this office.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I mean, look, I'd like to say I'm with them
that they were terrible, but I guess the point for
me is I didn't give a damn enough to watch.
I didn't give it damn enough to watch the halftime show.
I was busy at the Queen talking to people running
around blah blah blah. I mean, sometimes if I hear
something on social media, I'll go back to YouTube and
find it. Like Jackson, you may not remember this, but
there was a little Volkswagon commercial they ran back in
(33:42):
the day with the when they came out with the
remote start key fob and the little kid wearing the
Vader costume trying to start the car with the force.
That was freaking awesome. Like I still watch that today.
The eh Rade commercial that Dick and I talked about
Monday with the three idiots and the monkey and the
garage banging their hands together talking about wasting money on
a freaking Super Bowl spot.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'll still watch that every now and then.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Some of the old Budweiser Clydesdale commercials back in the day.
But you know what, maybe it's just getting old, and
I'd be curious four nine, four or five one the
order you get. Do you give a damn less about
the super Bowl commercials and halftime?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
It's funny because I thought the last few years have
been kind of rough. I thought this year was a
return to form. I thought this year's super Bowl commercials
I could not disagree with Valenti anymore. I thought this
year was I mean, the Sloth one I think wins
the day. But the Boobs was the company? What the
Sloth company? I have no idea what was is that?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
That's the thing. I don't even know what well that I.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Mean, I think the company is banking on you googling.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
What was the slot? I guess.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
But still like the Boobs into breast cancer awareness commercial,
I thought was incredible to just get literally everybody in
the room's attention and then turn it onto something that right,
I mean, you know my situation. I think that was
a great and there was a bunch of others. The
seed there was an awesome.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Co all right.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well, I mean, look, I'm glad somebody on the show cares.
And maybe it's just me being a crotch of the
old boob, right, not to have a play on words,
but maybe somebody should take his idea and just do
a commercial full of boobs, burgers and beer next year
and satisfy that guy. We got time for one more,
and now you want to do one more? Which one?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Three or four? Big one? Let's do three? Uh? Hey, Jackson,
did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Jeffs Saturday, the former Cult center U and Chris mad
Dog Russo joining ESPN this morning and joked with the
Chiefs needing Saturday's help on their offensive line and also
help with calling plays. They could have used Saturday blocking
that offensive line was so horrendous.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
So I'm gonna say it wasn't all his fault on
Sunday and Andy Reid.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I was gonna say they finally used me in coaching.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Saturday with all the pro know the first for Stevy
knows the first fourteen plays on Sunday afternoon, they threw
them all thirteen times.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Oh can you once twice? Just to break it up
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I'm never gonna argue with Andy Reid putting the ball
in Patrick Mahomes' hands. By the way, number one and
number two.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Well, I was gonna say, really really quick, I think
I wrote this wrong. Sorry, Softy, I wrote this completely wrong.
It's actually Jeff Saturday in Dick Faine to talk about
running performance.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, I mean you're talking about taking the ball out
of Patrick Mahomes' hands. I got no problem with that
at all, no problem with that strategy by Kansas City.
They easily could have been up fourteen to three and
nobody would have been complaining about giving the ball to
Patrick Mahomes. But you know what, man, Look, I just
think that for Andy Reid and for Patrick Mahomes in
Kansas City. And I was thinking this last week, and
I'm pissed I didn't mentioned it. It's amazing how the
(36:46):
narrative can change boom like that. You lose one game
like this, you've still won three of five Super Bowls,
which is exactly what Tom Brady did to.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Start his career.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Because remember he won the first three and then lost
to the Giants twice in a row, so he was
three and two also. And now it's like, oh, there
goes the goat talk, there goes this, there goes a legacy,
like are you crazy?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Crazy?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
They just played the conference title game seven years in
a row and went to three straight Super Bowls and
won three of the five they were in. Like, what
are you talking about. It's one of the greatest runs
ever in the history of the NFL. They just ran
out of freaking gas. We'll talk to Kevin Harland about that,
by the way, at four thirty Petros What kind of
mood is he? And we'll find out next on ninety
three three KJJRFM.
We got a short show because we got college basketball
pregame at five, tip off at five thirty with you
Dub and the buck Eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Jason Stark is going to join.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Us at three thirty or so three twenty eight and
talk some baseball with pitchers and catchers reporting in Peoria.
Mike Florio obviously is normal spot. In about six minutes
from now on the show, we'll get his thoughts on
where the Chiefs go from here. Pat Mahomes salary cap
number is gonna blow up next year? Travis Kelcey, what
does his future look like? Andy Reid? Can the Eagles repeat?
(00:33):
All that and more with Mike Florio coming up, Curtesya
simply Seattle dot Com at about five minutes from now
on the radio show, and then four o'clock we'll talk
to Petros Popinakas and then Kevin Harlan's gonna join us,
I think for a couple of segments starting at four thirty,
because we got a lot to get to with him
fresh off calling the game. And if I know Kevin Jackson,
by the way, this is a guy that lives in
(00:53):
Kansas City, Okay, went to Kansas grew up a Packer fan,
because his dad worked for the Packers. His dad actually
hired my Comgren. Kevin's dad, if you guys don't know,
is Bob Harland, who was a longtime president of the
Green Bay Packers, and so he grew up a Chief fan,
but then kind of are a Packer famer that kind
of gravitated towards Kansas City. I get the feeling that
he's pissed about the way the Chiefs played on Sunday afternoon.
(01:16):
Because as a broadcaster, especially a professional one, not a
clown like us, but as a professional, what do you want?
You want a great game, right, you want to have drama,
And most of the Super Bowls lately have had a
lot of drama, you know, not like when Dick and
I were growing up and they were all blowouts like
they were back in the eighties. But I think Kevin Harlan, dude,
(01:38):
I think you might get a sense when he comes
on the air tonight, Jackson at four thirty, he might
be a little bit irritated with the way Kansas City plays.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I mean, I think most of America is irritated because
we all want a good game, right, I don't know,
nobody wants some I mean I was looking at so
many rankings over the last week of the worst Super Bowls,
in the last super Bowls of all the time. Every
single list I saw that ranked the worst super Bowls
had the Seahawks over Broncos at number one. Nobody likes
it outside of the team who wins. Outside of the
(02:05):
team who wins, nobody likes a blowout. So yeah, I
mean I was angry watching the game. I'm like, this
is boring, this is terrible. The only rooting interest I
had as a Seahawks fan was making sure that the
Kansas City scored enough to make sure that this wasn't
in the conversation as the lob in forty eight.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, outside of the Rams, I mean, the Rams Patriot
game was a close game, but it was a turd
sandwich of a game. Three right, The Tampa Bay Kansas
City game was a blowout, The Denver Carolina game was
kind of a slog fest, and then obviously our game
in New York in twenty fourteen. But outside of those games,
(02:42):
every game Baltimore, San Francisco, Giants, Patriots, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, I.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Mean, all of them have been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I mean, we're not seeing any blowouts, and now the
conversation about Mahomes and what does this do to his legacy? Look,
I mean, you know what, there's a lot of crap
on social media, people questioning what that game yesterday did
mahomes legacy are freaking stupid? Are you kidding me? I'm mean, dude,
the guy just got done. Go into his fifth Super
Bowl in seven years. He's been to seven straight conference
(03:09):
championship games. He was an overtime and a d four
to off sides away from playing in seven consecutive games.
He's won three of us first five, which, by the way,
is exactly what Tom Brady did. He is on a
trajectory that will eventually make him the greatest quarterback in
the history of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Now does he want to play that long? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Is he gonna make enough money where he could say
I'm gonna be done by the time I'm thirty five?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I've told you on the year off the year.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think the biggest difference between Brady and Mahomes is
what Brady did when he was forty two, forty three,
and forty four years old. When the guy threw for
like thirteen thousand yards and one hundred touchdowns and drop
back two thousand times. If we're gonna sit here and
get all over Lebron about his longevity, which we should
compliment him for that, we have to do the same
thing for Tom Brady and wait to see if Mahomes
(03:55):
can do that. But Jackson, guess what, that's fifteen years away.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Nobody wants to wait. Everybody wants to immediately's say, oh
my gosh, is Patrick now just shut out from the
goat debate? Like they're forgetting that the guy has ten
plus years left in his career. But that's now. That's
no fun in sports media to say, we just have
to wait to say this. So you have talking heads
go all over Dick shows and basically spout off.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
How well my Homes is done.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I mean, really, they fans shows, Dick's, Dick shows, shows
that shows. Don't say it fast, say it very slow
Dix shows. I mean I just think, yeah, I mean,
it's not fun to sit around and, like you said,
just say, let's wait fifteen years and check in with me.
But man, you know, there's a reason why teams have
never won free in a row because it's freaking hard
(04:39):
as hell. I mean, outside of Buffalo. No team's gotten
there three times in a row since the nineties. Obviously
Kansas City the first team to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
So I mean they just had a gas.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They've played like twenty one extra games in the last
seven years because of the playoffs, right, They've basically played
an entire season plus Jackson and the last seven years
because they've been so damn good then.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And you see that too, I mean you just see
the wear and TEARA not to mention like this team
has had to pay a lot of different players and
pieces and things, and that's had to make them go
cheaper in certain areas like the offensive line, which I mean, boy,
I mean, my god, If this game wasn't a red
alert to every GM in the NFL John Snyder, Yeah, dude,
(05:24):
you build on the lines. You build in the front
four and the five up front. That is how you
do it in the NFL. That's how you win a
Super Bowl. If this wasn't the red alarmed to everybody
to start building that way, I don't know what is.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, we got my Floria here on the air in
a second, and we'll ask him about that. But I
think the problem is that every team has got the
same thing they're looking for, and the Seahawks have been
really bad at finding them.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
So it's kind of a fun challenge.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, we love it. I get that, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I mean, Howie Roseman right now is the best GM
in the NFL. I mean, there's no doubt the guy's
the best GAM in the NFL. I mean, you saw
the trade capital they got from the Carson wentz deeal
directly indirectly, the players they ended up with with that
trade unbelievable. But every team in the NFL is looking
for the same thing and they're damn hard to find.
And that's great, Lineman. All right, let's get to Mike Florio.
Courtesy is simply Seattle dot com. Right now, it's.
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Speaker 2 (06:55):
But our friend Mike Florio, Michael, how are you?
Speaker 6 (06:59):
I'm but I'm confused. Why would you lie to your
audience about what? Well, the intro said, Saucy and Dick,
there's no Dick today.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You're guardy today. I've already established that we have no Dick.
He's not here. Yeah, he's gone.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Well, song to be tuning in now for this segment.
If they only listen to your show on Wednesdays at
three ten pm to hear me, they would be confused
and they wouldn't necessarily have been lied to. So I
think you need to mention at the top of every
segment and periodically during it that you have no Dick today.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
No Dick today. He's back next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
By the way, we have our big President's Day show
and he is out until then uh down thirty four zip,
third quarter, twenty three yards at halftime for Kansas City.
You've covered a lot of Super Bowls, a lot of
NFL simply put, man, how shocking was what you saw
on Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Well it was shocking, but it wasn't because the only
way the Eagles are going to win that game was
to destroy the Chiefs. And were they capable. Obviously they were.
I didn't think the Chiefs would get steamrolled the way
they did. But when you're and we're reminded of this
from time to time in the Super Bowl, when you
can generate pressure on a quarterback with four guys rushing
and you dropped seven into coverage, the walls closed in
(08:10):
on the quarterback before he can find an open receiver.
And that's what we saw. And even with the greatness
of Patrick Mahomes, the Eagles were harassing him, chasing him,
hurrying him all day long. And Josh Sweat, who something
should have been the MVP of the game. A play
that will never show up on a stat sheet. He
took left tackle Joe Tooney and shoved him into my
(08:30):
homes at a time that Mahomes was trying to throw
a pass and caused the interception from Zach Bond that
made it twenty four to nothing at the half and
really supplied the dagger. Seventeen nothing might have been the dagger,
but when there was no answer after that and it's
twenty four to nothing at the half, the Chiefs were done.
I made the observation on Twitter that Patrick Mahomes has
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an opportunity for his own twenty eight to three, down
twenty four to nothing, and I was surprised when they
were facing fourth and nine on the first drive of
the second half from their own forty five that they
didn't go for it because they needed points. They needed
to not let Philadelphia chew up a lot of clock
and score a field goal, which they did. That was
the moment where we were just playing out the string.
(09:11):
It felt like the seventies, eighties and some of the
nineties yep, when the Super Bowl was a major letdown
because one team just completely destroyed the other and then
you're just watching what the commercials were to say that
you watched the whole super Bowl. Never turned the super
Bowl off early, And when I'm at the super Bowl,
it's not like I'm going to leave early. But it
(09:32):
was a reminder of some days where man, it was
a pain in the butt getting through these Super Bowls
because they weren't fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So Patrick Mahomes' salary cap goes to sixty six point
two next year, number one, do you see that being
renegotiated to manage that a little better and simply put
with the cap going up for him?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
In any former fashion, is the window starting to close?
You think on Kansas City's shot to get a fourth one.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
It's very easy to take a big salary and chop
it down to a bonus payment that spread the cap
hit over multiple years. And when they did this contract,
look he took less than he could have gotten. And
they have tweaked it from time to time. For example,
when Jill Burrow got his dealer a couple of years ago,
(10:22):
they moved money around in the Patrick Mahomes contract to
give him the same cash flow as Burrow, actually a
little better than Burrow over the next three seasons. So
they'll tweak it again this year. They'll give him more money,
they'll reduce the cap charge, and it will all continue.
That's the way the salary cap game works when you
have a franchise quarterback. It's a series of restructurings and
(10:44):
extensions until the guy retires or is released or trade it,
and then there's a massive cap reckoning that you have
to accept. Just like the Vikings. I think they had
to take almost thirty million last year for Kirk Cousins.
We've seen some massive cap hits thirty five million the
first year time Brady wasn't playing for the Buccaneers. That's
just part of the game of having a franchise quarterback.
(11:04):
So they'll fix it. The question is can they address
the deficiencies on the roster because when he came down
to it, and Sims and I agreed on this last
week because we were getting ready in the game. If
you go through the twenty two positions on both sides
of the ball, offensive defense and check which team had
the edge, Eagles had the edge in eighteen of the spots,
and we saw that play out. So there's a gap
(11:26):
between the Chiefs and the most talented team in football
right now, the Philadelphia Eagles, And there might be a
gap between the Chiefs and the Detroit Lions when the
Lions are fully healthy. The Chiefs know how to navigate
their way to the top of the AFC. They've never
not made the AFC Championship with mahomes there, and they've
lost two in overtime. That's his floor in seven seasons,
losing in overtimes of the AFC Championships. So they're going
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to continue to compete and contend. The question is that
they're going to be good enough to avoid the debacle
that we've seen twice now, three Some Bowl wins, two
sim Bowl losses to Some Bowl lullout. That's what they
need to guard against or we're going to see this
movie play out again and again potentially over the next
ten years because they're not going anywhere in the AFC.
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The question is can they be good enough to win
Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, my florial's with us. Dick is not here today,
this man has thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I just rely on Bill Murray to make sure
everybody knows the busses thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
What about Travis Kelcey, is he back next year?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Well? One of the things I've learned over the years
is the more you talk about retiring, the more that
you are retiring and you're just coming to terms with
it and waiting for the right moment to announce it.
That he's talking about it so openly that I feel
like he's trying to come up with a reason not to,
and I don't really think there is one when you
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consider how much money he's already making away from football
nine figure deal for his podcast that he does want
a week good lord. He's an actor, he's a producer.
There's a lot more that he can do and make
a lot more money not put his body at any
further risk. I think back to after the two thousand
season when Robert Smith, the running backs of the Vikings,
unexpectedly retired from football. His argument was, I want to
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be able to lock when I'm old, and at some
point Travis Kelsey needs to ask himself how much more
am I going to do this? And if you watched again,
there were some business decisions in the second half. There's
one play where Mahomes was running all over the place
trying to gain some yardage and Kelsey is just kind
of standing there and when the guy that he could
have been blocking moved toward the ball, he made a
very half hearted effort to impede him. And maybe it's
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because he saw there was a flag and he knew
it was coming back. I don't know the regardless guys
are chasing your quarterback around and if you're just standing there,
that tells me you're somebody that doesn't want to get
an injury in what might be the last game of
your career.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Well, Andy Reid has said he wants to come back
and coach at least one more. I mean, does the
sting of this you think make him want to kind
of stick around and right the wrong or do we
maybe believe that next year is going to be Andy
Reid's goodbye to her?
Speaker 6 (13:58):
In twenty twenty three, Chiefs were concerned that Reid was
going to retire after the season. That was true, and
it might have been just a leverage play to get
the contract that he deserves. But I don't know why
Reid would walk away from this chase that he's suddenly
in very seriously to catch Bill Belichick and eventually Don
Shuloch for the all time wins record. Then there's a
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question of what else would you do when football has
been your whole life? What do you do if you retire?
You're going to walk away from this golden opportunity to
ride out multiple more seasons of Patrick Mahome's career. I
wouldn't do it, And I think ultimately the issue is
and I think back to something I read not at
the time because I was too young, if I was
even alive, But when George Hallis eventually retired from coaching,
he retired because he couldn't physically do it anymore. He
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couldn't get up and down the sideline to yell at
the officials. Your body at some point is going to
rebel against standing there. And anybody's ever gone to like
training camp or stood around a practice field for multiple hours,
it hurts to stand there, to be on your feet
for that long. And you know, Reed is getting older
as we all are. He's got a lot of baggage
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on the bones, and at some point that could be
the thing that would cause him to walk away. But
as long as he can physically do it, why would
he not do it? With Mahomes around, And they've done
a great job building a three time Super Bowl champion.
They haven't suddenly forgotten how to compile and maintain and
advance a football team. And the fact that so many
people acting are acting like the windows closed on the
Chiefs dynasty, that's only going to get more motivation. He's
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fatigue isn't over just because they lost by eighteen in
the Super Bowl. Frankly was where there's forty to six
with a couple of garbage time touchdowns. They got blown
the f out. But they're not going to go away.
They're only going to be emboldened by it.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Kellen Moore is from Prosser High School here in the
state of Washington. He played college football for Chris Peterson
at Boise State. He's thirty six, he's three years older
and Derek Carr, for God's sake, So now he's the
coach of the Saints.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Higher Well, I was talking to somebody about this yesterday.
If the NFL had a moratorium on all head coaching
hires until after the Super Bowl ended, the Saints would
have had competition for Kellen Moore because the dance card
is filled out based on the regular season. Then I
looked this up. The AP put out all the votes
from the awards that were handed out last Thursday night
for the Assistant Coach of the Year. There were seventeen
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coaches who got votes, including Eagles defensive court nator Vic Fangil,
including Eagles offensive line coach Jeff Statlin. Kellen Moore did
not get a single vote to go five deep on
fifty ballots. He did not get one point one vote.
Seventeen others did, and he's got a head coaching job. Coincidentally,
Brian Schottenheimer got the Cowboys head coaching job without getting
a single point in the assistant Coach of the Year vote.
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So it's beneficial to a team like the Saints that
targeted more and wanted more that the process plays out
and most of the seats gets filled early based upon
regular season performance, because if it would happen all over again. Now,
remember seven years ago when Josh McDaniels left the Colts
at the altar all of a sudden, Frank writes, the
hot commodity. Yeah, he wasn't after the regular season, but
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when the Eagles win the Super Bowl and put thirty
eight or whatever it was on the chief on the Patriots,
thirty six, thirty eight, whatever it was, and all of
a sudden, he's a hot commodity. That's what more would
have been if there were other jobs that were still open.
So the Saints, I think, are very happy. It's gonna
be critical now to see what his staff looks like.
Who's gonna be the offensive coordinator? Defensive coordinator is likely
going to be Brandon Staley. Interesting names floating around our
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offensive coordinator like John Gruden, who's worked with Wow, Derek Carr,
I haven't I haven't heard that officially linked, but I
won't be aprised if it happens. And Jason Garrett, who
More worked for in Dallas. I've heard that name bandied about.
So these staff hires for More are going to be critical.
And he surely already knows what he's gonna do. He's
had plenty of time to prepare for.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Mike, you're the man. Great job on radio Row with
the PFT crew as well. We're talking a week see you, buddy,
San Mike, Mike, Mike Florio shows he was on my mind.
Mike Florio with us from Pro Football Talk dot Com.
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in Peoria. Jason Stark is going to join us talk
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some baseball next on ninety three three KJRFM.
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Speaker 1 (18:12):
All right, boys and girls, back here on a Wednesday
afternoon from the Emerald Quick Casino Sportsbook. No better guy
to get on the air and talk about the start
of another baseball season. We'll see where this thing ends
up going and Seattle and our friend from the Athletic
Jason Stark, joining us on the radio program.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Jason, how are you, man, Dave? I'm great, have everything,
Everything is good.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It'd be a lot better if the Mariners would go
out and spend some money on an offense to complement
this phenomenal pitching staff. But I don't want to ask
any leading questions of you. I don't want to influence,
never do that. Yeah, your opinions at all. So why
don't you, first of all talk to all the frustrated
Mariner fans out there that's see this amazing rotation and
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yet today still don't see what they believe to be
a competent offense company eventing it.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I don't blame anybody from being frustrated. I think Jerry's frustrated.
I think justin olanders frustrated. I think their group expected
to do more, at least hope to do more, but
it isn't how it worked out. You know, they're in
a funny position in that you know they might be
a playoff team right now without doing any more than
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they've done. You know, if you look at those Pakota
projections on fangrafts last week, Plakota projected them with eighty
four wins. That's more than five teams that made the
playoffs this past year, plus the Twins who should have
made the playoffs. So as many as the Astros, it's
only one fewer than Texas, which was their Al West pick.
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So it's possible they're still a playoff team as constituted.
But when you've watched what you've watched, you live through
what you've lived through. Yep, I understand that it's hard
to get charged up a better winner like this.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well, let me let me backtrack for a second, Jason
Jason Stark again with us, because I think sometimes, honestly, man,
when it comes to the national narrative for Major League Baseball,
I know we kind of feel left out here in
the corner of the country and the old PNW three
thousand miles away from Yankee Stadium in the East Coast
and Fenway Park. But the Mariners are the only team
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left in baseball to have never made a World Series.
I mean, is that something that is starting to resonate
with people? You think across the country.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
You know, you don't want to be the Browns Baseball
really want to be that. I don't think they are.
I think they're better than that. But you know, at
some point, when does ownership feel that urgency? I guess
it would be my question. You know a lot of
people I know want to pin this on Jerry, pin
this on this front office. I would look at the
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this is kind of an odd winner and that it
doesn't fit Jerry to Poto's customary m O, does it?
You know, he started looking at some of these teams
that didn't do a whole lot, the Mariners, Braves, the
Padres think about Jerry to Poto, alex Anthopolis, aj Preller.
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Is that their personality? You know, if you go laid
back and almost sit out the winner. I don't think
it is.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
So.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
You know, one of my things is is I try
to make sense of all this is am I listening
to what people say or am I watching what they
do and I just know that Jerry Depoto's history doesn't
match this level of inactivity.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah right, Well, Jim Bowden, who you know, former GM,
was on with us about a week and a half ago,
and he's putting all of this on the ownership. I mean,
he made the analogy you Jerry is locked in some
prison south then can't even make a phone call for
crying out loud. I mean, is that kind of the
sense that you get that this is way more about
what's happening above him than some unwillingness or desire to
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not spend money by the general manager.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Well, again, just look at what you know about Jerry
to Poto, and look at what they did and what
they tried to do Darian in Sasaki. He would have
cost no money. He cost the Dodgers virtually no money.
I don't know what the odds were that he was
going to sign and seattle over the Dodgers, but they
were involved. They listened to a lot of offers for
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Luis Castio. I don't know that that was all about
cost cutting, but obviously it would have if they'd found
the right match, it would have freed up a lot
of money, and it would have brought back bats. I'm
guessing if you know at the places that you would
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expect them to trade for bats, and if they couldn't
sign an Impact, that trading for an Impact that or
two made sense. But you know, I think a lot
of it goes back to the way I started this.
As they look at their team, and they look at
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their division, and they look at the league, which really
isn't very interesting compared to the National League. You don't
want to just trade a guy like Sto to say
you did, and you don't want to trade any of
your other starters just to say you did. It's the
strength of your team if you ever make it. If
here get in, nobody want to play you because they
have to face that rotation, and so you're not going
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to do something that would make you worse. So the
things they talked about and the things we know definitively
suggest that's the deal. They just didn't have any money.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, Jason Stark is with us on the right radio show,
and I mean the biggest name, if you will, that
they've brought back is Jorge Polanco. I mean, unless you're
a big fan of Donovan Solano, or Miles Masterboni. The
biggest name recognition player is definitely Polanco, but he was
two games away from being a two hundred hitter a
year ago and is coming off of knee surgery. How
much should we expect out of Horey Polanco, especially moving
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him to third base for almost the first time in
his career.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, it's a hard one to say, you know. Right now,
I'm in the middle of doing my annual spring training
preview survey of executives, coaches, scouts, managers, some former executives
who were recently in the game, and you know, one
of the categories is best free agents Worst free Agents.
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Myners don't have any best free agent votes, but they
but hooray Polonko has gotten several worst free agent votes.
That seems telling to me. You know, I think the
I was a good player once and I understood, you know,
what the Mariners were thinking when they brought him in
the first time. This time, it just feels like they're
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hoping on health and hoping on a bounce back. He
certainly motivated. He just sits in the category of so
many guys on this team. You know that because they
have to be better offensively, and how's that going to happen? Well,
Julio could be better. Rand Rose Arena is certainly more there.
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Jp Crawford, there's more there, Jorge Polanco, look at his
track record. There's more there. But there's a difference between
wishing for that to happen and saying, Wow, that would
really be a bonus if that happened, and needing it
to happen. Right, they need that to happen. So what's
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the old expression? Hope is not a strategy, it's kind
of what they're stuck with. They have to hope on
guys like this.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, it fills Jason again, Jason Stark with us for
a few more minutes here on ninety three to three KJRFM,
talking some baseball from the athletic. It feels like the
hope is that the American League West is going to be,
if anything, mediocre, And if this was any other division
in baseball, the Mariners would be instantly eight or nine
ten games out before the season even begins. How much
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can Mariner fans simply rely on the rest of this
division not being very good?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
It's a big factor, you know. I think if they
played the Central it might not be that different, but
if they played in the Al East, they would have
to go about it differently. But all you need to
do in modern baseball is just get in. And it's
certainly not out of the realm of possibilities. The Mariners
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could get in. They have the best rotation in the league.
Right It's a really good place to start. There's also
the ballpark in the way it suppresses offense, and you know,
no matter who you bring in, you do worry about
how they would fit. You know, I'm sure a lot
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of the names they kicked around for Luis Castillo, that
was a big concern. It The American League is not good.
The American League West is not good. It's hard to
look at the Astros and think they're what they were.
I don't. I don't think Alex Bragman is coming back.
Kyle Tucker is gone. Those are two extremely important players
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who were big middle of the order offensive forces, and
Bragmant in particular, was an energizer on that team. It's
one of the most important personalities on that team. Then
there's Texas. I don't know what their bullpen is going
to be, how that's going to shake out. I can't
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tell how healthy they're going to be I think they
have the most upside of anybody. They're They're getting votes
for most improved team in the leagues. That tells me something.
I think they're probably the favorite right now, but at
a massively better than the Mariners. I don't see that.
So it's gonna be an interesting year in the life
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of the Aos.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, Jason, great stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Always appreciate your time, man, and follow Jason on Twitter
at Jason with a yst Have fun this season and
we'll talk down the road, buddy.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Appreciate you doing this.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Gonna talk to you man.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Thanks, you got a man.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Jason Stark with us from the Athletic We're gonna break
a lot more to get to On a busy Wednesday
from the Emerald Queen right here on ninety three to
three kJ RFM.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
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Speaker 1 (28:53):
All right, boys and girls, we're back on a busy Monday.
Excuse me, Monday. You know what, when you're at the
Emra Queen every single Monday. By the way, I look
around Jackson. I see the sports book, I see the bar,
I see the casino, and I think Monday, Monday, Monday.
But we're not off and here on a Wednesday. But
we are here today tonight for the Big Nicky Glazier Show,
which is sold out of.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
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Speaker 1 (29:13):
But venue kings dot com has tickets for one hundred
and forty bucks to get in the tour for tonight
and tomorrow, so check it out. All right, Dick is
not here. You're in the captain's seat, baby. All right,
you're stepping up to the one hole. Hey Jackson, did
you happen.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
To hear that? What's I?
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Dave?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
What's that? Dick? Good work, man, good work.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yesterday's New Heights podcast with the Kelsey Brothers, Jason opened
up and got emotional well talking about what it was
like to watch his former team blow out his brother's
team in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (29:44):
It was very, very hard to watch. As much as
I love the Eagles, as much as I love the
city of Philadelphia, there was not a bounce to me,
and I know that, like I don't know. I tried
to correlate that I was rooting for both sides the
whole time, and that I was going to be happy
and sad regardless.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
It's a unique situation that nobody could relate to. Nobody
can relate to this.
Speaker 9 (30:06):
I just don't know how to articulate that. I'm happy
for some of the Eagles, but at the same time,
I was miserable during the game, watching you not achieve
your success again. Yeah, that's the reality of it. It sucked,
and like it felt weird for me not to be cheering.
That's what it felt like. It felt like, why the
f am I not as excited, and I think it was.
It was just a emotion. And I'm so happy for
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Jalen Hurts, I'm so happy for Nick Sirianni and all
these guys that.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
Have been through so much.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
And it was just really I did not anticipate it
being that hard.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, I could see it, man, I mean he's getting
emotional there, obviously. I'm reading a lot online about Eagle
fans are mad at Jason Kelsey because he should be
all Philadelphia like the guy's brother. For God's sakes, I'm Jackson.
I'm actually shocked he was rooting for Philadelphia at all. Yeah,
with his brother playing in the game, how much.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Do we always hear from former athletes about how you
were mercenaries, were paid mercenaries to join teams, and like,
the reality is, I'm not. Maybe Kelsey's different. So yeah,
I gotta look at how long he played with the
Eagles and maybe if he was a lifer there, Okay,
I guess it was for such kay, But still the
same time, like he is he from Philadelphia, I don't
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think so. So at the same time, you got to
look at it and say, unless a professional athlete is
from a place, they probably just look at the organizations
as the organization that pays me to do a job.
So I don't blame them at all for going for
Kansas City because family beats your employee every day of
the week.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Well, he's from Ohio, but he played thirteen years in Philadelphia,
all right. He was there since twenty eleven. He started
one hundred and ninety three games for the Eagles. He
was a first team AP All Pro eight times seven sorry,
six times with Philadelphia. He's probably a Hall of Famer
right with the Eagles. So I get that part. But
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he could have gone on his podcast and say, dude,
I was written for my brother the whole way, and
I would have said cool.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Family over the organization family all the time, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
All right, hey Jackson, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Let's stay with the super Bowl theme. Yesterday on ninety
seven point won the Ticket Detroit host Mike Valenti sharing
his thoughts on the Super Bowl commercials this year.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
It was the least entertained I've ever been in any
super Bowl in my lifetime. It was horrific. And the
ads enough enough, okay, Tom Brady and Snoop, What a
waste of money? Oh? I hate you, you hate me, Newslesh.
Nobody who watched that like, I'm sorry if you were
catering to like an ardent racist somewhere, Newsflesh, you didn't
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change anybody's mind. There's a waste eight million bucks. I
don't need to hear about girls flag football in all
fifty states. Not interested. I do not need ads for Jesus,
literal Jesus. What are we doing eight million dollars a pop?
If you are not a religious person, those commercials didn't
make you start. How about this beer boobs burgers laughter,
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that's America? What are we doing? The commercials were awful.
The only one I liked was the Sloth commercial, which
may as well have been filmed in this office.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I mean, look, I'd like to say I'm with them
that they were terrible, but I guess the point for
me is I didn't give a damn enough to watch.
I didn't give it damn enough to watch the halftime show.
I was busy at the Queen talking to people running
around blah blah blah. I mean, sometimes if I hear
something on social media, I'll go back to YouTube and
find it. Like Jackson, you may not remember this, but
there was a little Volkswagon commercial they ran back in
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the day with the when they came out with the
remote start key fob and the little kid wearing the
Vader costume trying to start the car with the force.
That was freaking awesome. Like I still watch that today.
The eh Rade commercial that Dick and I talked about
Monday with the three idiots and the monkey and the
garage banging their hands together talking about wasting money on
a freaking Super Bowl spot.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'll still watch that every now and then.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Some of the old Budweiser Clydesdale commercials back in the day.
But you know what, maybe it's just getting old, and
I'd be curious four nine, four or five one the
order you get. Do you give a damn less about
the super Bowl commercials and halftime?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
It's funny because I thought the last few years have
been kind of rough. I thought this year was a
return to form. I thought this year's super Bowl commercials
I could not disagree with Valenti anymore. I thought this
year was I mean, the Sloth one I think wins
the day. But the Boobs was the company? What the
Sloth company? I have no idea what was is that?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
That's the thing. I don't even know what well that I.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Mean, I think the company is banking on you googling.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
What was the slot? I guess.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
But still like the Boobs into breast cancer awareness commercial,
I thought was incredible to just get literally everybody in
the room's attention and then turn it onto something that right,
I mean, you know my situation. I think that was
a great and there was a bunch of others. The
seed there was an awesome.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Co all right.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well, I mean, look, I'm glad somebody on the show cares.
And maybe it's just me being a crotch of the
old boob, right, not to have a play on words,
but maybe somebody should take his idea and just do
a commercial full of boobs, burgers and beer next year
and satisfy that guy. We got time for one more,
and now you want to do one more? Which one?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Three or four? Big one? Let's do three? Uh? Hey, Jackson,
did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Jeffs Saturday, the former Cult center U and Chris mad
Dog Russo joining ESPN this morning and joked with the
Chiefs needing Saturday's help on their offensive line and also
help with calling plays. They could have used Saturday blocking
that offensive line was so horrendous.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
So I'm gonna say it wasn't all his fault on
Sunday and Andy Reid.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I was gonna say they finally used me in coaching.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Saturday with all the pro know the first for Stevy
knows the first fourteen plays on Sunday afternoon, they threw
them all thirteen times.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Oh can you once twice? Just to break it up
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I'm never gonna argue with Andy Reid putting the ball
in Patrick Mahomes' hands. By the way, number one and
number two.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Well, I was gonna say, really really quick, I think
I wrote this wrong. Sorry, Softy, I wrote this completely wrong.
It's actually Jeff Saturday in Dick Faine to talk about
running performance.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, I mean you're talking about taking the ball out
of Patrick Mahomes' hands. I got no problem with that
at all, no problem with that strategy by Kansas City.
They easily could have been up fourteen to three and
nobody would have been complaining about giving the ball to
Patrick Mahomes. But you know what, man, Look, I just
think that for Andy Reid and for Patrick Mahomes in
Kansas City. And I was thinking this last week, and
I'm pissed I didn't mentioned it. It's amazing how the
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narrative can change boom like that. You lose one game
like this, you've still won three of five Super Bowls,
which is exactly what Tom Brady did to.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Start his career.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Because remember he won the first three and then lost
to the Giants twice in a row, so he was
three and two also. And now it's like, oh, there
goes the goat talk, there goes this, there goes a legacy,
like are you crazy?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Crazy?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
They just played the conference title game seven years in
a row and went to three straight Super Bowls and
won three of the five they were in. Like, what
are you talking about. It's one of the greatest runs
ever in the history of the NFL. They just ran
out of freaking gas. We'll talk to Kevin Harland about that,
by the way, at four thirty Petros What kind of
mood is he? And we'll find out next on ninety
three three KJJRFM.
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