February 6, 2025 • 34 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain, and Jackson Felts talk about the wait for the news about Mike Holmgren’s Hall of Fame candidacy tonight, listen back to today’s visit between Ian Furness and Matt Hasselbeck talking about Mike, then Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
God, here we are on a Thursday, as we are
getting closer and closer and closer, and I don't know, honestly,
this might just be me, and I'm sure it probably
is just me. This Mike Homgren thing coming up tonight
with the Hall of Fame announcement, probably in the seven
o'clock hour. Again, they got the MVP of the Rookie
of the Year, the Coach of the Year. What I
was told is that the Hall of Fame portion of
the evening we think is going to be towards the
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back half. Okay, I can't guarantee that because I'm not
in the room at the NFL network.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That's what I've been told. They may have changed their
mind on that.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I have no idea what they're doing, But six pm
then I we're going to start to kind of keep
an eye on this and see if our buddy Mike
Homgren makes the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And I'm nervous as hell. I mean I am. Look, guys,
I've told you before.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
First of all, I've known Mike for twenty five years,
as have you twenty six years now since he showed
up here in ninety nine. But a close friend all
of us have for a long long time gotten to
his family as kids, his wife, every is extended.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Family, grandkids, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And I've always said there are three guys that I
have worked with in this business that stand out among
anybody else as three of the best people, gentlemen, guys
that I've ever worked with. One of them is Lorenzo Romar,
the second is Kaitlin de Boor, and the third is
Mike Hombren. All Right, So when you're around good people
that do good things for people and treat people the
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right way, you want good things for them. And Mike
Combren freaking deserves this man. And we can argue all
you want to, but whether or not the guy deserves
to be in the Hall of Fame, which I don't
think there really is any argument whatsoever. I mean, Dick,
you got seven coaches in the history of the NFL
who have a Super Bowl with multiple teams, and of
those seven, five of them have won a championship because
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John Fox and Dan Reeves did not win a title.
And of those five, four of them went to three
Super Bowls because Dick for Meal, only went to two
of them, one with Philadelphia and one with the Rams,
and those four people are Andy Reid, Bo Parcels, Don Shula,
and Mike Combren. I don't get it, you know, I
don't get why he's not in already. I don't get
why lesser people are in the Hall of Fame. You
(02:02):
want to put Bill Coward, Dick and Dick for Me
on the Hall of Fame, that's fine, But you cannot
have a Hall of Fame with Bill Cower and Dick
for Meal and not have Mike.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Holmgreen Well and Holgrin's kind of caught in a numbers
game too, because it seems like the Hall of Fame
had little oops over the last few years.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I was reading some articles today about it, seeing that the.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Chart per year of how many people are entering the
Hall of Fame, and there's been a spike recently, and
they've said, wait a second, we got it, but we
got to pull this, we got to pull this back.
And unfortunately they're pulling it back at just the time
that we want to get our guy in. So but
to me, regardless of them pulling it back, he still
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has Hall of Fame credentials, of course, especially since they've
let like you said, lesser candidates. I'm not gonna say
lesser people. They've let lesser candidates in the Hall of Fame.
But you know, like you said, he is absolutely on
my list of one of the top people that I've
ever met in the sport. I would add to you,
know you mentioned your three, I would ad Dwayne Casey
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that list.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
He is right there on my list. I didn't get
a chance.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
To really know Kaalin de Boor the way you did,
but I'm sure if I did, then I would probably
have him on my list as well, because I've heard
nothing of good things about it.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I guess I'm just talking to head coaches, right, you know,
and as an assistant when he was here, he was
a head coach.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Else He's talking about people that I know in the sports.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Brian Price was fantastic when he was with lou Panella.
I could keep going. Bob Weiss when he was with
George Carl was awesome. You know, I mean, George and
I as you know, kind of you know, oil and
water at times. But you know that went away as
he got older and I got older. But I don't know,
I just I totally appreciate as a fan what Mike
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Homgrin did for Seattle. I mean, Dick, you were here
and I remember Jackson, this is the way before your time.
But we did in nineteen ninety nine. You may remember this, Dick.
We did a not a contest, but like a list
of the biggest sports stories of the previous cent as
we got to White two K and Mike Holmgren getting
hired as the coach of the Seahawks. I don't remember
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exactly where it was, but it was like number two
or number three behind the Sonics winning the NBA championship.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Now, looking back, the guy.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Hadn't even coached a game yet when we did that.
By the way, that's how big a one.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Let me ask you this question twenty five years later, yes,
was that going back on it now, was that recency
bias because it just happened? Or if you were to
do that list again today, right twentieth century biggest moments
in Seattle sports history, where would it rank up there?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Because I put a list right after he.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Got hired, I probably put him number three, between behind
the Sonics and the ninety five game against the Yankees,
because the game against the Yankees saved the baseball team,
and obviously I won the NBA championship. I mean, you
might even flip him, by the way, because you might
you might say having a franchise, just having a team
is more important than winning a title. You might put
that Game five number one, Sonics number two in Mike
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home number three. But I mean it took him six
years and he got us to our first ever Super Bowl.
I mean, Dick, you and I how many times what
we said on the air, things like the final fourth.
So you know, for example, the World Series of super Bowl.
When you and I were growing up in the late seventies, eighties,
even hell into the nineties, things like that kind of
weren't for us. We'd watch other teams go do things
like that. And then Mike Holmgren showed up and he
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showed us that this can be for you. You guys can
do this. You can play in a freaking super Bowl.
You remember that Carolina game. How crazy people went for that,
How crazy people went for that football team, And that
dude brought it to us. So look, obviously he's a
Hall of Famer on our book, But I think all
of us in whatever industry were in, you know, we
all you know, we don't strive for it necessarily. We
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don't wake up wanting it. But we all appreciate, you know,
when you get acclaim from others in the industry, and
for Mike home going to be recognized by his peers
and to be recognized alongside people like Vince Lombardi and
Hank Stram and Bill Parcells and you know, all these
great don Shula whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I think he wants it, I think he wants it bad.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And I'm just telling you right now, I'm gonna be
absolutely heartbroken for him if he doesn't get in tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
You know, it's interesting going back to that poll that you.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Did, Yeah, the station did it.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
You didn't at that time. You didn't even know what
Mike Holmgren was going to do.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That's right, And so now in hindsight it almost looks
like it was a bigger deal because he led you
to your first Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
You didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
In nineteen ninety nine. And it was the precursor to
Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Does Pete Carroll come to this franchise if they didn't
have some semblance of success. And when Pete Carroll came
to this franchise, the Seahawks were probably definitely a top
ten over the prior decade team. It's not a top
five or six franchise over the prior decade before Pete
Carroll got here because Mike.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
The two biggest hires I think, and I don't remember
what the buzz was like when Landy got hired. I
can't talk about that, But the two biggest hires were
Loopennel and Mike Homburn because both guys had won a title,
and we didn't hire guys that won titles in Seattle
right the see, the Seahawks didn't do it, the Mariners
didn't do it, Sonics didn't do it. They hired Bill Russell,
you know, back in the day, obviously, who was a
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great player.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
But hiring a guy that.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Had won a championships back in the day was a huge,
frickin' deep, huge deal.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And it mattered because he took you to the super
How did it work for the Mariners?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Let's see the one time that they hired a guy
with the championship?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, what do you say? We got a break?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
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Speaker 2 (08:50):
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back to me, Dick, But no, I heard him.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I didn't hear them today.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I heard him earlier today on the Fox Show, but
not here to go.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, Jackson's says he was amazing the guy asking the questions.
I don't know, but the guest was phenomenal. Igan Ferness
on the day that we're hoping to hear within hours
that Mike Hombren is going to the Hall of Fame.
Fingers crossed that we get some good news tonight. Matt
Hasselback caught up today with the inverness.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
What is it about Mike Holmgren, the coach, behind the scenes,
with the players, in the meetings, and even just the
offensive mind that says this guy's a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 7 (09:26):
You know, I think it's probably fate three things. Number One,
he's an incredible I'll say this, like the excell and O's,
he's as good as you get, right, he's the XS
and o's are as good as you get. But in
terms of culture builder and developing talent. I think that's
in sort of what he did, you know, in Green
Bay and then he did in Seattle.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
I would point to three things.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Number one, he's an incredible teacher, and he hired incredible
teachers as coaches. He's also a great developer and that's
kind of what I learned from him when I started
with him in Green Bay. While he was teaching his
offense and coaching Brett Farv, he was developing guys like
me on the bench, and that's how you have a
sustained a program was sustained success. And then I think
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the third part of it is, you know, motivating and
pushing players further than they think than they ever thought
they could have been pushed.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
And like I sometimes talk about it, he had a
rule that the ball is not allowed to touch the
ground at practice.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
And it's like when I first heard that, it was
like that is that's ridiculous, Like that's an easy rule
to make. It's in like impossible to do, Like what
are you even talking about now? He would script for
success and we call play for cover two. We were
getting covered too. We called a screen that we didn't
want a blitz. We weren't getting the blitz, but still
on as far as it depended on me. The ball
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wasn't allowed to touch the ground, stuff like that. And
so I think if you asked all the guys that
got coached by Mike Homewren, I think they would all
say the same thing. I'm saying, he'd pushed me further
than I ever I how would they say? They say,
he pushed me further than I even knew that I
could be pushed myself. And and I think that's probably
those are the greatest things that I could say about him.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Houseback joining us here in frontests with you this afternoon.
Hopefully we'll find out later today that Mike Homgran's in
the Hall of Fame. Matt, the teaching element of it,
do you take that you've coached the last two years?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Is that something?
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Do you take some Mike Holmgren teaching elements and how
he kind of was that teacher into what you're doing
now when you're coaching young people.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
And I probably owe Coach Holmgren an apology because of
how hard it is, like how much harder it is
than I realized. But no, we you know, we're actually
playing and we're playing in Tennessee. And you know these defenses.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
Are used to see in the spread.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
I have brought the Mike Hongren two thousand and five
to two thousand and seven playbook right out. We are
under center, we're running the Max Strong plays, We're running
the Bobby Ingram plays. So it's the exits and o's,
but it's one hundred percent. It's it's how I trained
the quarterback. You know, Mike would say this one thing
to me early on. He'd say, listen, you're an artist,
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not a blacksmith. You're an artist, not a mathematician, and
so much. And he would say, pay your canvas as
a quarterback, and like it literally took me about a
year and a half to even understand what he.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Was talking about.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
But once you kind of get through the genius of like,
you know, I started to understand the genius of his
coaching points. I think it like that's I think when
things just kind of clicked for me. And uh so
here we are, years and years and years later, I'm
still using I'm using coaching points that ironically, when I
first started in like oh one, I was like rolling
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my eyes at and like, what does that even mean?
I almost feel like, uh, like Daniel and Karate Kid
with mister Miyagi.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
What is this good for? And then when it clicks,
it clicks take.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Us behind the scenes, because he'll say every now and
then he'll say, you know, I sometimes I wasn't too
I wasn't patient enough with Matt or Brad or whoever.
What was he like behind the scenes, because there's it
sounds like there's a ton of funny stories.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Listen, my college coach with Tom Coughlin, my dad played
for Bill Parcells. I've been around all those type guys.
I've had Hall of Fame, oh line men type coaches.
Nobody is more intimidating than Mike Holmbrian nobody. I mean,
he's an enormous human being. He's very fiery, he's super competitive,
and yes, like there is another side to him. Like
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I'd see him with his wife and his daughters and
his grandkids, and he's like the most tender, sweet like grandfather,
and like that's like a different person. It's like a
it's not even the same. The intimidation factor was real.
I mean, but I saw him. I saw him get
intense with Reggie White. I saw him get really intense
with Brett farr And and and Tobec and Walter Jones
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and Dilfer and like, you know all.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
The guy Ricky Waters like I saw it.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
So I think for me, I know, it was like
okay that he got mad at me, you know what
I mean, like I get I got to see him.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
I still got this. I mean, he went off. I
talked about this today.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
He went off on Andy Reid whenever he wanted to
yell at Brett Farv Like he gets to the point
where like I can't. He's like, I can't yell at
Brett Favre anymore.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
You know, he's not listening. He's like that.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
He's like that teenager, like, oh, I've just been in
two Super Bowls and i just won three MVPs in
a row.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
So he was like, I'm done yelling at Brett. I'm
now just gonna scream at Andy. Andy. If he does
that again, you are fired. And it was it was like, you.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Know, but there's there's some genius in it too, And
it was like it was almost like I wouldn't be
at all surprised if Mike Homer and Andy Reid were
in on it together, like a good cop bad cop type.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Yeah, yeah, and and so like.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
It wasn't like it wasn't necessarily a temper, although it
made a bit might have been.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
It was more of like, I'm gonna pull you where
you don't even know you can go. I'm gonna push
you to where you don't even know that you can go.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
And I would say he did that with the assistant
coaches as well, giving him giving them the leeway to
open up their minds and get creative and think outside
the box. But he was he obviously meant a lot
to me, and I'm still using those lessons.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
But there it it's hard not to chuckle sometimes at
how tough it was.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
At a certain point, what was the mattest he ever
got at you?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
What did you do?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Well, here's just one thing, like sometimes the only thing
that like lightened the mood a little bit. And he
was screaming at me in those really really short coaches shorts.
So he was like, I'm half laughing at him and
I'm half taking the beat in, but I'm like they
were like, we got a five inch four.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Inch, didn't team on those shorts? What are we doing here?
But now the worst it ever got, the worst it
ever got. It was early in my career, and.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Instead of yelling at me, there were two players on
the sidelines taking a knee. It was Robbie Tobeck and
Trent Dilfer, and he got so mad at me that
he looked over.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
To them and chewed them out.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
And he said, he said to Tobek and Dilfer, he said,
he was so frustrated with me.
Speaker 8 (15:48):
He said, I'm looking for you two guys to put
this team on your back and take us where we
need to go. And Robbie Tobeck famously said to Dilfer,
there's two people standing behind us right now. And I
think if he was like, we're not getting there with
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this kid. You know, I don't know what the reasons were,
but that's good.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
I got one more thing for I want to play
a quick sound bite from Walter Jones. I'm gonna ask
you the same question I asked Walter on the Kraken broadcast.
He joined us in our pregame show the other day.
Why my Clumberan's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 9 (16:22):
Take a listen, cause he did it the right way
For me personally, he's my Hall of Fame coach because
he came here and changed the standing here in Seattle.
You know, when I came here, he was like, hey,
listen to me. We'll get y'all to us. So we
didn't win it, but still again, I think he changed
the culture here in Seattle. Everybody got used to see
him winning.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Walt nails it, and you know, there was a standard
and it was all those things. But I you know,
a lot of times, people, especially young people, one thing
they'll bring up to me or ask questions about is
when I at a wild card said we want the
ball and we're gonna score. And I don't regret that,
not even for a second. I regret the outcome, obviously,
but I don't regret the moment and part of it.
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I remember the night before that game. We were a
wildcard team that didn't expect it to get.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
In and uh and and.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Mike gave us to talk to the team the night
before the game and he was like, guys, I know
what it takes.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
Okay, I've been there.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
I've been there in San Franz with Joe Montana, did
it with Steve Young, I did it in Green Bay.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
I know what it takes.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
We as a coaching staff, as an organization, we believe
you don't believe. He's like, you don't think you got
what it takes. I'm telling you you have what it takes.
And so there were steps along the journey, right, But
but I think part of it he was just trying
to get us to have that that mindset or that
swagger or that that feeling, that belief that like, we
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are not going to be denied. We're going for this thing,
We're we're swinging for it. And and I just think
that it was like he kind of set the tone.
And I know that game ended and the next year
we lost on the last play of the game in
the wild card. But but it was those two failures
in those wildcard that propelled us to the year that
we had in five and and uh and Mike, Mike
was the vision for it.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
He was the culture builder. He set the tone. And
so I think we're all grateful for what he did
and how he did it. That's what he changed.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
You said that because of him.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
By the way, we were just talking about the end
the day we asked him softy and were asking Hi
when he's in studio if if what he thought of it?
He was good with it, like he didn't care. He
goes yeah, let's go Like that was kind of his
thought process.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
We didn't we didn't we didn't actually know at the time,
Like we didn't like obviously they picked it up a TV,
but we didn't know.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
On the field, but like you kind of hear little
mummering like murmuring or.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Whatever, and I come to the sideline and he goes,
what did you just do?
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Like what did you just do? Like it was like
did you just do something? Did something just happened?
Speaker 7 (18:37):
But but I will say this, and like he knows
me and those are those are my friends in Green Bay.
So it wasn't like it was like medium trash talking.
It wasn't really like you know, but I will say this,
like and Walt said it there.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
He did it the right way.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
And I've got a bunch of vivid memories of teachable moments.
Call him, but I remember, like to use one like
when what Teo pulled out the sharpie on Sean Springs
on Monday and I feel while we were playing Dallas,
yep and did the.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Autograph thing like Mike.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Mike got emotional the next day about like respect for
the game, respect for your opponent. And he's like, if
I teach you nothing about t j X Sagger, why
shiat lacrosse Fate forty or all these great plays that
we're running here. If I teach you nothing like I
want you to. I want to teach you life lessons
and the things like the way I believe is the
right way to do it. It almost felt like I was
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back listening to like one of my role model high
school teachers. And I think that that is an important
part that can't be overlooked. You know, when we judged coaches,
we judge you know, wins and losses and stuff like that.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
But Mike was special.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
He was exceptional and his assistant coaches were too, in
terms of the leadership training that went into you know,
for for us, like you know, football will end and
you'll be a husband and a father and a leader.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
And he was. He was Hall of fame in that
regard to In my mind.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, we're gonna find out, Dick, and about four hours
from now three and a half four hours, if Mike
is made the Hall of Fame, we'll see you know,
I mean, he doesn't get in, doesn't get in, you
keep trying, and maybe one day we'll see him in
the Hall of Fame. But you know, there's this big
thing that they they want to get these guys in,
you know, while they're around so they can enjoy it.
And Mike deserves to enjoy this as long as he can.
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But man, it's funny here in Hasselback talk about all
those stories about homegren. You know that that that Packer
playoff game that Matt talked about that we want the ball,
we're going to score. You know, I was on the
sideline when Al Harris ran right by me, because that's
back in the day when they used to let the
media on the field for the final couple of minutes.
And I'm sitting in the press box at Lambeau. Were
you with that game, by the.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Way, or the ninety nine?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay, so that that game I remember sitting in the
press box, and cause it was it was later in
the it was obviously later in the winter. The Monday
night game was I think was earlier in the year,
if I remember correctly, And I remember sitting in the
press box thinking, you know what, I want to go
down there.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And just see what this cold feels like.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And it felt like you would imagine, I mean, like
your lipocantical terrible couldn't even breathe. So I go down there,
Al Harris runs right by me, and I have this
urge to run out and tack the guy. And obviously
I didn't do it. By the way, if I had
tackled him, I found out the same rule that the
referees were talking about during.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The Eagles a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yet it would have been a touchdown, exactly the the
unfair act thing that they.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Were talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I k would have been fired.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I would have been fired.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
But I talked to Mike. I said, Hey, what would
you have thought? He said, I would have loved it.
Shut because he scored anyway, right, he scored anyway. He said,
you should have tackled the freaking guy.
Speaker 11 (21:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I don't know. I love him. I love him
like a dad, and I hope he gets in the night.
Did well?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I just you know.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
And Matt said it best when he talked about Mike's
unbelievable ability to separate, being the most intimidating man in
the room that could just tear into you like no
one has ever torn in you before, and then how
he is with his friends, with his family, with his kids,
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with his grandkids, with his wife, It's like when I
first met him, he walked into our old studio when
he was just about ready to start with us, right,
and I just.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I was like, oh, my, Mike Homegren is coming in.
This is you know?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And I was, you know, I didn't really cover the
Seahawks back then. I was like twenty seven years old
or something. I wasn't really I was on the Sonic beat,
not the Seahawks beat, So I didn't really spend any
time with Mike homegrennall.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
And I was like, what is this guy? I'm just
gonna be shaking in my boots when I meet him.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
And I ended up talking to him like one on
one for fifteen minutes, like I'd known him for ten years.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
He just made me feel like I'd known him for
ten years. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
He was he was very aware of the media, and
he and he, I mean, look we're talking about like
he's still with us, by the way, the coach. The
coach was very aware of the media. He would look
you in the eye at the press conference, he would
call you by your first name, He'd come over and
say hello and shake your hand, always treated you to
like you're the most important person or you know in
the room at the time. I remember doing a show
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from you know, Northwest College. Uh, the old facility of
the Hawks would practice and we would set up shop
with the old isd in line, running from the building
all the way to the edge of the grass and
doing a show, screaming my guts out, probably doing ten
to one. Homegroun stops to practice, looks at somebody and says, well,
somebody tell him to shut up? And can you imagine?
And that was God, maybe two thousand. I'm twenty seven,
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twenty eight years old. Scared out of my mind, of course,
I mean now like whatever, right, But back then, oh
my god, I'm kind of I'm almost willing to pee
my pants that Mike Colgrin's telling me to shut up?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
What do I do?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
But he always was like that, dude. He was always
great with everybody he met.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I'm sure he's got some enemies. You know, Cleveland probably
thinks differently of him than we do. Green Bay thinks
differently of him than Cleveland does.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Whatever.
Speaker 11 (23:34):
Well, I.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Know that not even home.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
There are but there are people out there that blame that,
that hold that against him. There's people that don't vote
for him for the Hall of Fame because of what
happened in Cleveland with the Browns that you know, well,
he went to Cleveland didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I've heard people say that, by the way, word about Mike.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
So you'd rather have him not even try to go
do that and just rest on his Laura, the Niners
and the other part of it too, by the way,
is the tree the coaching tree. I mean, Wikipedia has
got a separate page just for the Mike Cormgan coaching tree.
Jim Zorn, Mike Sherman, Andy Reid, Marty Morningwig, Dick jar
On Ray Road, Steve Mery Ucci, John Gruden, and from
that spawned John harbop Rat, Jodorus, Steve Spagnola, Bill Callahan,
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Jim Mora Junior, and Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Are you kidding me? Nobody's got a coaching tree like this.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I don't think he gets credit enough for what he
did before he was with Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
With the Niners. Y, yes, I mean he was.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We talk about Spags right now, right, we talk about
the great coordinators in football. Hex Spags might be up
for a for a Hall of Fame boat in the
you know, fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Years, you will.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I'm certain Mike Congrian.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Was as good offensive coordinator as Spags is a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I mean, look, man, it's it's kind of becoming a
tribute day from Mike. It'll be an even bigger tribute
day for him tomorrow. But let's so let's pause this
for a little bit. We'll see what happens tonight and
then hope he we're celebrating all night long, and then
tomorrow on the radio, stay so we're doing a little
fun with audio, and then we're gonna head to Philadelphia
and Kansas City at four o'clock today. Mike Sando's gonna
join us by the way at five with news on
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this talks the NFL. I'm certain we'll get Mike's thoughts
on how this Hall of Fame vote will go down
tonight coming up on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
It's now time for Sufday in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have
some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, real quick, Jackson, random question for you. Do the
Sounders have an under thirteen team?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Ooh, under thirteen?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
They have fifteen seventeen's I don't okay under thirty.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
So these are like academies that these MLS teams have,
is all right? Yeah for these kids?
Speaker 8 (25:39):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So, uh, does anybody know the name Theago MESSI?
Speaker 11 (25:44):
No?
Speaker 8 (25:44):
Is it his sun?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
He's his middle I believe he's Lionel's middle son. And
he plays for the under thirteen inner Miami squad. Yeah,
and they played at Lanti United yesterday. He scored eleven.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Goals in the game.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Wow, a teacher, Dick. What would that be like Dixon
doing on the golf course?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Man?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Oh, that's a sixty three.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
He had five aces in one roun.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, that's that's like a sixty three on a sixty
yard course.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Unfreaking believable. Man, this kid? All right, here we go
a little Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I just lost my freaking page here, by the way,
so we'll have to do it live on the ear. Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Former NFL defensive coordinator Rob Ryan and I thought this
was fake when I first saw it, by the way,
and then I saw awful announcing retweet it. So unless
they fell for it, I guess it's legit. Rob Ryan
is now an assistant coach at USC. Rex Ryan's brother.
At a press conference yesterday, Rob went on a two
minute long rambling answer about Lincoln Riley's springball. USC's new quarterback,
(26:50):
Jade Mayeva, had a trip with his wife to MAUI.
Speaker 10 (26:53):
What's where we finish this year? What's where we finish
this year? This guy is special. He's special. He knows
how to get it done. He's a great communic, creator,
great teacher. He's fun to be around. He makes everybody better,
including the coaches. And you know, we'll see you. You know,
I'm looking forward for the what do you call it
springball or whatever. I can't wait. We're gonna go against
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the best.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Oh good, bring it on.
Speaker 10 (27:20):
Let's see. I can't wait. See that little juco kid
from Hutch. We're gonna get after this little bit. But anyway,
it'll be great. We're excited, you know. And I saw
the Mayava guy I coached his uncle. I hated that
kid when I first sat a USC kid, a little captain.
Remember he could walk under this table right here, little guy,
and we draft this little runt like, oh man, this guy.
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I was all over this kid during the OTAs anyway.
So then I'm like, hey, guys, see, life has going
on vacation with the family, going out to Hawaii, going
to Maui and never been to Maui. I run things
in Oahu, but I'm gonna go to Maui. He's like, hey, Rob,
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you getting any kind of trouble?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Now?
Speaker 10 (28:06):
You just tell him, you know. Koluks Im like me, yeah,
I'm gonna tell him. By no, Kollukes walk out there,
got the whole, got me and the wife there. Oh,
we gotta have a romantic evening. No rent a car?
What do you mean you never called for the rental car?
Speaker 8 (28:24):
I tell you she's Greek.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
I'm like, yeah, they must have lost it, so of
course I forgot to call.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
Now they're out of cars.
Speaker 10 (28:32):
I'm in Mawi.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
I got no car, So.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
What do I do?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I know?
Speaker 10 (28:37):
Kaluks I got a car. Oh you know, koluks swear
to God handed God true story.
Speaker 12 (28:42):
I got a van.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
I'm like, yeah, caloms my man.
Speaker 10 (28:45):
Anyway, I end up loving the kid he was Oh man,
is he means a rattles?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Think? I love that guy?
Speaker 10 (28:50):
Ended up? Looks can be deceiving.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Holy smokes.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I don't even know what to say. I don't even
know what to react to. I think the question was
about Lincoln Riley, by the way, yes.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yes, okay, So did somebody in the audience say, Rob,
you haven't answered the question about Lincoln Riley. Can you
please tell us about Lincoln Riley and not your car
rental problems on MAUI I don't know. I mean, I
just kind of feel like, if you're a USC fan,
you're like, oh my god, we're gonna give up ninety
points a game.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well, first of all, well they're used to that.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
That's first. That's true. He sounds just like his brother.
He's just like his brother.
Speaker 13 (29:21):
And did he mean maybe have a couple three four
before the press high stone before he took to the
podium more drunk than I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
He kept walking away and then had to go back
and yeah, the MIC's over there, Rob, Come on, dude,
I think I mean, imagine being a Husky fan and
that's your new that's your new DC.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Because I'm glad we got to play against him.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Lincoln Riiley? Is he actually the DC? Do we know
that he's an assistant to the head coach? Assistant?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Okay, good, because I was gonna say, like, Lincoln Riley
is handing this guy the defense because he's an offensive guy.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Like, holy cow, dude, remember when Nick Coke got the
drop awesome.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, and we.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Thought it was really cool. Then one of the guy
two years later.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
He's gonna be the Remember when Ed or Dron used
to throw to the towel, you know, the sidelines. He
just swing the towel before he was ever anything in
college football.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Maybe that's what Maybe that's what robble be.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
He'll just be like the towel waiver guy with the
long hair flowing.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
We had that guy. He was here with Sark, the
towe waving guy.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
We had a towwaving guy.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, we did. Worked for sort fat face bearded Oregon Douche.
You know that guy, not that guy.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Oh god, well that was uh, that was pretty amazing, man.
I mean that was as as unhinged as it gets. Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Last night the Hornets traded center Mark Williams of the Lakers.
Let's go back three days ago. Oh, I love the
harp halftime of The Wizard's winner for the Hornets. Charlotte's
local TV colour analyst Terrence Oglesby had this to say
about the lack of effort by new laker Mark Williams.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
Here's the thing, Shannon, I'm just gonna say it like,
I'm okay when shots are missed, I'm okay when errors happen.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
But if there's at least effort, I can live with
those things.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
Mark Williams has put together a first half that I've
never seen from a starting center at the NBA level, heck,
even maybe the college level. He was so poor from
an effort perspective today that they had to switch him
off of Jonas Valanciunas, and then he was giving up
wide open threes because he wasn't hustling out to contest
the threes.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
The effort has to be better.
Speaker 11 (31:24):
You might be down twenty three points whatever, but the
effort has to be better. This is crazy, and Mark Williams,
if you're going to be the center of a franchise
where they've invested in you and they have planned for
you to be a core piece of what they're going
to be moving forward, that effort is unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I think I figured it out.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Dave Mark Williams was doing it on purpose because knew
the Lakers needed a center.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yea, he is a player.
Speaker 10 (31:51):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
The whole Lucas, whole Luca trade makes sense. When do
we talk about what the day that Luca got traded?
I said, if you don't get a big, now they
got a big. The Lakers are a legit force in
the Western Conference now with this guy, he's sixteen and
ten a game. Yeah, he plays, He plays, usually plays
with effort. He was a really good player at Duke Man.
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The Lakers are gonna be fun to watch down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Seven foot two forty. He's only twenty three years old.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Maybe he just tanked to get himself the hell out
of it. Maybe he pulled the Randy Johnson just so
you know what, my back hurts, get me out of here.
And then he gets traded to the Astros and signs
with the Suns. Hey, Dick, did you happen.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
To hear that? What's that?
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
The broadcasting future Charles Barkley is still very much in
the air. Up in the air, even as Chuck said
he will not be joining NBC or Amazon. Barkley then, though,
joined The Dan Patrick Show on Tuesday and talked about
how much TNT and Turner Sports don't want him to leave.
Speaker 12 (32:47):
I'm trying to figure out all that stuff out, Dan.
It's been very fascinated behind the scenes. There's been a
lot of shitkana be going on behind the scenes that
I haven't been happy with. I'm hoping everything works out,
but I'm it's been fascinated dealing with all the tntbs
this entire time. But I just want to get all
between TNT and ESPN. I said, I just want to
(33:10):
figure out which my workload. They haven't given me in
a definitive answer, because I don't think they know their
definitive answer, to be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
So you could stay at TNT.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I could.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
I could always have stayed a TNT, but I put
in my contract I could get out of there if
they lost the NBA. Yeah, you know, it's really funny.
The TNT people, they're stupid. They tried to say to
me that I was They wrote a c said assist
letter to Amazon and NBC and it really pissed me off.
But they're trying to say that they traded my show
(33:41):
to ESPN. That's the same as them keeping it I'm like,
I don't think that's the way it works.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I love the fact that he's airing his bosses out,
all awesome. Do that again, Charles Barr'd be like me
going on the air and saying, you know what, these
two idiots, Richmore and Mark Glynn that run this freaking
hakamami place that we call iHeartMedia Seattle.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
These knuckleheads have been screwing me over since the.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Day I showed up, and neither idiot has any idea
what the hell he's doing.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
If he was just run by children.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
If you were to say that, okay, that's right, right,
If you.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Were to say that, which I would never say that
never ever else, you would never say that, ever, never
say that. But that's what he just did. If I
didn't give it, Dan, that's what I would do.
Speaker 13 (34:20):
Too.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
It's it's actually entertaining as hell. All right, Well, let's
do we got Jackson break we wanna do? We're gonna break.
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God, here we are on a Thursday, as we are
getting closer and closer and closer, and I don't know, honestly,
this might just be me, and I'm sure it probably
is just me. This Mike Homgren thing coming up tonight
with the Hall of Fame announcement, probably in the seven
o'clock hour. Again, they got the MVP of the Rookie
of the Year, the Coach of the Year. What I
was told is that the Hall of Fame portion of
the evening we think is going to be towards the
(00:23):
back half. Okay, I can't guarantee that because I'm not
in the room at the NFL network.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That's what I've been told. They may have changed their
mind on that.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I have no idea what they're doing, But six pm
then I we're going to start to kind of keep
an eye on this and see if our buddy Mike
Homgren makes the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And I'm nervous as hell. I mean I am. Look, guys,
I've told you before.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
First of all, I've known Mike for twenty five years,
as have you twenty six years now since he showed
up here in ninety nine. But a close friend all
of us have for a long long time gotten to
his family as kids, his wife, every is extended.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Family, grandkids, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And I've always said there are three guys that I
have worked with in this business that stand out among
anybody else as three of the best people, gentlemen, guys
that I've ever worked with. One of them is Lorenzo Romar,
the second is Kaitlin de Boor, and the third is
Mike Hombren. All Right, So when you're around good people
that do good things for people and treat people the
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right way, you want good things for them. And Mike
Combren freaking deserves this man. And we can argue all
you want to, but whether or not the guy deserves
to be in the Hall of Fame, which I don't
think there really is any argument whatsoever. I mean, Dick,
you got seven coaches in the history of the NFL
who have a Super Bowl with multiple teams, and of
those seven, five of them have won a championship because
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John Fox and Dan Reeves did not win a title.
And of those five, four of them went to three
Super Bowls because Dick for Meal, only went to two
of them, one with Philadelphia and one with the Rams,
and those four people are Andy Reid, Bo Parcels, Don Shula,
and Mike Combren. I don't get it, you know, I
don't get why he's not in already. I don't get
why lesser people are in the Hall of Fame. You
(02:02):
want to put Bill Coward, Dick and Dick for Me
on the Hall of Fame, that's fine, But you cannot
have a Hall of Fame with Bill Cower and Dick
for Meal and not have Mike.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Holmgreen Well and Holgrin's kind of caught in a numbers
game too, because it seems like the Hall of Fame
had little oops over the last few years.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I was reading some articles today about it, seeing that the.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Chart per year of how many people are entering the
Hall of Fame, and there's been a spike recently, and
they've said, wait a second, we got it, but we
got to pull this, we got to pull this back.
And unfortunately they're pulling it back at just the time
that we want to get our guy in. So but
to me, regardless of them pulling it back, he still
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has Hall of Fame credentials, of course, especially since they've
let like you said, lesser candidates. I'm not gonna say
lesser people. They've let lesser candidates in the Hall of Fame.
But you know, like you said, he is absolutely on
my list of one of the top people that I've
ever met in the sport. I would add to you,
know you mentioned your three, I would ad Dwayne Casey
(03:03):
that list.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
He is right there on my list. I didn't get
a chance.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
To really know Kaalin de Boor the way you did,
but I'm sure if I did, then I would probably
have him on my list as well, because I've heard
nothing of good things about it.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I guess I'm just talking to head coaches, right, you know,
and as an assistant when he was here, he was
a head coach.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Else He's talking about people that I know in the sports.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Brian Price was fantastic when he was with lou Panella.
I could keep going. Bob Weiss when he was with
George Carl was awesome. You know, I mean, George and
I as you know, kind of you know, oil and
water at times. But you know that went away as
he got older and I got older. But I don't know,
I just I totally appreciate as a fan what Mike
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Homgrin did for Seattle. I mean, Dick, you were here
and I remember Jackson, this is the way before your time.
But we did in nineteen ninety nine. You may remember this, Dick.
We did a not a contest, but like a list
of the biggest sports stories of the previous cent as
we got to White two K and Mike Holmgren getting
hired as the coach of the Seahawks. I don't remember
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exactly where it was, but it was like number two
or number three behind the Sonics winning the NBA championship.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Now, looking back, the guy.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Hadn't even coached a game yet when we did that.
By the way, that's how big a one.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Let me ask you this question twenty five years later, yes,
was that going back on it now, was that recency
bias because it just happened? Or if you were to
do that list again today, right twentieth century biggest moments
in Seattle sports history, where would it rank up there?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Because I put a list right after he.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Got hired, I probably put him number three, between behind
the Sonics and the ninety five game against the Yankees,
because the game against the Yankees saved the baseball team,
and obviously I won the NBA championship. I mean, you
might even flip him, by the way, because you might
you might say having a franchise, just having a team
is more important than winning a title. You might put
that Game five number one, Sonics number two in Mike
(04:59):
home number three. But I mean it took him six
years and he got us to our first ever Super Bowl.
I mean, Dick, you and I how many times what
we said on the air, things like the final fourth.
So you know, for example, the World Series of super Bowl.
When you and I were growing up in the late seventies, eighties,
even hell into the nineties, things like that kind of
weren't for us. We'd watch other teams go do things
like that. And then Mike Holmgren showed up and he
(05:21):
showed us that this can be for you. You guys can
do this. You can play in a freaking super Bowl.
You remember that Carolina game. How crazy people went for that,
How crazy people went for that football team, And that
dude brought it to us. So look, obviously he's a
Hall of Famer on our book, But I think all
of us in whatever industry were in, you know, we
all you know, we don't strive for it necessarily. We
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don't wake up wanting it. But we all appreciate, you know,
when you get acclaim from others in the industry, and
for Mike home going to be recognized by his peers
and to be recognized alongside people like Vince Lombardi and
Hank Stram and Bill Parcells and you know, all these
great don Shula whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I think he wants it, I think he wants it bad.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And I'm just telling you right now, I'm gonna be
absolutely heartbroken for him if he doesn't get in tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
You know, it's interesting going back to that poll that you.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Did, Yeah, the station did it.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
You didn't at that time. You didn't even know what
Mike Holmgren was going to do.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That's right, And so now in hindsight it almost looks
like it was a bigger deal because he led you
to your first Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
You didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
In nineteen ninety nine. And it was the precursor to
Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Does Pete Carroll come to this franchise if they didn't
have some semblance of success. And when Pete Carroll came
to this franchise, the Seahawks were probably definitely a top
ten over the prior decade team. It's not a top
five or six franchise over the prior decade before Pete
Carroll got here because Mike.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
The two biggest hires I think, and I don't remember
what the buzz was like when Landy got hired. I
can't talk about that, But the two biggest hires were
Loopennel and Mike Homburn because both guys had won a title,
and we didn't hire guys that won titles in Seattle
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you know, back in the day, obviously, who was a
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But hiring a guy that.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Had won a championships back in the day was a huge,
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Speaker 3 (07:24):
And it mattered because he took you to the super
How did it work for the Mariners?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Let's see the one time that they hired a guy
with the championship?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
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Well, I did not hear this. Did you hear hassle
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Speaker 5 (08:53):
I didn't hear them today.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I heard him earlier today on the Fox Show, but
not here to go.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, Jackson's says he was amazing the guy asking the questions.
I don't know, but the guest was phenomenal. Igan Ferness
on the day that we're hoping to hear within hours
that Mike Hombren is going to the Hall of Fame.
Fingers crossed that we get some good news tonight. Matt
Hasselback caught up today with the inverness.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
What is it about Mike Holmgren, the coach, behind the scenes,
with the players, in the meetings, and even just the
offensive mind that says this guy's a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 7 (09:26):
You know, I think it's probably fate three things. Number One,
he's an incredible I'll say this, like the excell and O's,
he's as good as you get, right, he's the XS
and o's are as good as you get. But in
terms of culture builder and developing talent. I think that's
in sort of what he did, you know, in Green
Bay and then he did in Seattle.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
I would point to three things.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Number one, he's an incredible teacher, and he hired incredible
teachers as coaches. He's also a great developer and that's
kind of what I learned from him when I started
with him in Green Bay. While he was teaching his
offense and coaching Brett Farv, he was developing guys like
me on the bench, and that's how you have a
sustained a program was sustained success. And then I think
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the third part of it is, you know, motivating and
pushing players further than they think than they ever thought
they could have been pushed.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
And like I sometimes talk about it, he had a
rule that the ball is not allowed to touch the
ground at practice.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
And it's like when I first heard that, it was
like that is that's ridiculous, Like that's an easy rule
to make. It's in like impossible to do, Like what
are you even talking about now? He would script for
success and we call play for cover two. We were
getting covered too. We called a screen that we didn't
want a blitz. We weren't getting the blitz, but still
on as far as it depended on me. The ball
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wasn't allowed to touch the ground, stuff like that. And
so I think if you asked all the guys that
got coached by Mike Homewren, I think they would all
say the same thing. I'm saying, he'd pushed me further
than I ever I how would they say? They say,
he pushed me further than I even knew that I
could be pushed myself. And and I think that's probably
those are the greatest things that I could say about him.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Houseback joining us here in frontests with you this afternoon.
Hopefully we'll find out later today that Mike Homgran's in
the Hall of Fame. Matt, the teaching element of it,
do you take that you've coached the last two years?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Is that something?
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Do you take some Mike Holmgren teaching elements and how
he kind of was that teacher into what you're doing
now when you're coaching young people.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
And I probably owe Coach Holmgren an apology because of
how hard it is, like how much harder it is
than I realized. But no, we you know, we're actually
playing and we're playing in Tennessee. And you know these defenses.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
Are used to see in the spread.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
I have brought the Mike Hongren two thousand and five
to two thousand and seven playbook right out. We are
under center, we're running the Max Strong plays, We're running
the Bobby Ingram plays. So it's the exits and o's,
but it's one hundred percent. It's it's how I trained
the quarterback. You know, Mike would say this one thing
to me early on. He'd say, listen, you're an artist,
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not a blacksmith. You're an artist, not a mathematician, and
so much. And he would say, pay your canvas as
a quarterback, and like it literally took me about a
year and a half to even understand what he.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Was talking about.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
But once you kind of get through the genius of like,
you know, I started to understand the genius of his
coaching points. I think it like that's I think when
things just kind of clicked for me. And uh so
here we are, years and years and years later, I'm
still using I'm using coaching points that ironically, when I
first started in like oh one, I was like rolling
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my eyes at and like, what does that even mean?
I almost feel like, uh, like Daniel and Karate Kid
with mister Miyagi.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
What is this good for? And then when it clicks,
it clicks take.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Us behind the scenes, because he'll say every now and
then he'll say, you know, I sometimes I wasn't too
I wasn't patient enough with Matt or Brad or whoever.
What was he like behind the scenes, because there's it
sounds like there's a ton of funny stories.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Listen, my college coach with Tom Coughlin, my dad played
for Bill Parcells. I've been around all those type guys.
I've had Hall of Fame, oh line men type coaches.
Nobody is more intimidating than Mike Holmbrian nobody. I mean,
he's an enormous human being. He's very fiery, he's super competitive,
and yes, like there is another side to him. Like
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I'd see him with his wife and his daughters and
his grandkids, and he's like the most tender, sweet like grandfather,
and like that's like a different person. It's like a
it's not even the same. The intimidation factor was real.
I mean, but I saw him. I saw him get
intense with Reggie White. I saw him get really intense
with Brett farr And and and Tobec and Walter Jones
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and Dilfer and like, you know all.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
The guy Ricky Waters like I saw it.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
So I think for me, I know, it was like
okay that he got mad at me, you know what
I mean, like I get I got to see him.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
I still got this. I mean, he went off. I
talked about this today.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
He went off on Andy Reid whenever he wanted to
yell at Brett Farv Like he gets to the point
where like I can't. He's like, I can't yell at
Brett Favre anymore.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
You know, he's not listening. He's like that.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
He's like that teenager, like, oh, I've just been in
two Super Bowls and i just won three MVPs in
a row.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
So he was like, I'm done yelling at Brett. I'm
now just gonna scream at Andy. Andy. If he does
that again, you are fired. And it was it was like, you.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Know, but there's there's some genius in it too, And
it was like it was almost like I wouldn't be
at all surprised if Mike Homer and Andy Reid were
in on it together, like a good cop bad cop type.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Yeah, yeah, and and so like.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
It wasn't like it wasn't necessarily a temper, although it
made a bit might have been.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
It was more of like, I'm gonna pull you where
you don't even know you can go. I'm gonna push
you to where you don't even know that you can go.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
And I would say he did that with the assistant
coaches as well, giving him giving them the leeway to
open up their minds and get creative and think outside
the box. But he was he obviously meant a lot
to me, and I'm still using those lessons.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
But there it it's hard not to chuckle sometimes at
how tough it was.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
At a certain point, what was the mattest he ever
got at you?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
What did you do?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Well, here's just one thing, like sometimes the only thing
that like lightened the mood a little bit. And he
was screaming at me in those really really short coaches shorts.
So he was like, I'm half laughing at him and
I'm half taking the beat in, but I'm like they
were like, we got a five inch four.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Inch, didn't team on those shorts? What are we doing here?
But now the worst it ever got, the worst it
ever got. It was early in my career, and.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Instead of yelling at me, there were two players on
the sidelines taking a knee. It was Robbie Tobeck and
Trent Dilfer, and he got so mad at me that
he looked over.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
To them and chewed them out.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
And he said, he said to Tobek and Dilfer, he said,
he was so frustrated with me.
Speaker 8 (15:48):
He said, I'm looking for you two guys to put
this team on your back and take us where we
need to go. And Robbie Tobeck famously said to Dilfer,
there's two people standing behind us right now. And I
think if he was like, we're not getting there with
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this kid. You know, I don't know what the reasons were,
but that's good.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
I got one more thing for I want to play
a quick sound bite from Walter Jones. I'm gonna ask
you the same question I asked Walter on the Kraken broadcast.
He joined us in our pregame show the other day.
Why my Clumberan's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 9 (16:22):
Take a listen, cause he did it the right way
For me personally, he's my Hall of Fame coach because
he came here and changed the standing here in Seattle.
You know, when I came here, he was like, hey,
listen to me. We'll get y'all to us. So we
didn't win it, but still again, I think he changed
the culture here in Seattle. Everybody got used to see
him winning.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Walt nails it, and you know, there was a standard
and it was all those things. But I you know,
a lot of times, people, especially young people, one thing
they'll bring up to me or ask questions about is
when I at a wild card said we want the
ball and we're gonna score. And I don't regret that,
not even for a second. I regret the outcome, obviously,
but I don't regret the moment and part of it.
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I remember the night before that game. We were a
wildcard team that didn't expect it to get.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
In and uh and and.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Mike gave us to talk to the team the night
before the game and he was like, guys, I know
what it takes.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
Okay, I've been there.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
I've been there in San Franz with Joe Montana, did
it with Steve Young, I did it in Green Bay.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
I know what it takes.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
We as a coaching staff, as an organization, we believe
you don't believe. He's like, you don't think you got
what it takes. I'm telling you you have what it takes.
And so there were steps along the journey, right, But
but I think part of it he was just trying
to get us to have that that mindset or that
swagger or that that feeling, that belief that like, we
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are not going to be denied. We're going for this thing,
We're we're swinging for it. And and I just think
that it was like he kind of set the tone.
And I know that game ended and the next year
we lost on the last play of the game in
the wild card. But but it was those two failures
in those wildcard that propelled us to the year that
we had in five and and uh and Mike, Mike
was the vision for it.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
He was the culture builder. He set the tone. And
so I think we're all grateful for what he did
and how he did it. That's what he changed.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
You said that because of him.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
By the way, we were just talking about the end
the day we asked him softy and were asking Hi
when he's in studio if if what he thought of it?
He was good with it, like he didn't care. He
goes yeah, let's go Like that was kind of his
thought process.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
We didn't we didn't we didn't actually know at the time,
Like we didn't like obviously they picked it up a TV,
but we didn't know.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
On the field, but like you kind of hear little
mummering like murmuring or.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Whatever, and I come to the sideline and he goes,
what did you just do?
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Like what did you just do? Like it was like
did you just do something? Did something just happened?
Speaker 7 (18:37):
But but I will say this, and like he knows
me and those are those are my friends in Green Bay.
So it wasn't like it was like medium trash talking.
It wasn't really like you know, but I will say this,
like and Walt said it there.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
He did it the right way.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
And I've got a bunch of vivid memories of teachable moments.
Call him, but I remember, like to use one like
when what Teo pulled out the sharpie on Sean Springs
on Monday and I feel while we were playing Dallas,
yep and did the.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Autograph thing like Mike.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Mike got emotional the next day about like respect for
the game, respect for your opponent. And he's like, if
I teach you nothing about t j X Sagger, why
shiat lacrosse Fate forty or all these great plays that
we're running here. If I teach you nothing like I
want you to. I want to teach you life lessons
and the things like the way I believe is the
right way to do it. It almost felt like I was
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back listening to like one of my role model high
school teachers. And I think that that is an important
part that can't be overlooked. You know, when we judged coaches,
we judge you know, wins and losses and stuff like that.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
But Mike was special.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
He was exceptional and his assistant coaches were too, in
terms of the leadership training that went into you know,
for for us, like you know, football will end and
you'll be a husband and a father and a leader.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
And he was. He was Hall of fame in that
regard to In my mind.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, we're gonna find out, Dick, and about four hours
from now three and a half four hours, if Mike
is made the Hall of Fame, we'll see you know,
I mean, he doesn't get in, doesn't get in, you
keep trying, and maybe one day we'll see him in
the Hall of Fame. But you know, there's this big
thing that they they want to get these guys in,
you know, while they're around so they can enjoy it.
And Mike deserves to enjoy this as long as he can.
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But man, it's funny here in Hasselback talk about all
those stories about homegren. You know that that that Packer
playoff game that Matt talked about that we want the ball,
we're going to score. You know, I was on the
sideline when Al Harris ran right by me, because that's
back in the day when they used to let the
media on the field for the final couple of minutes.
And I'm sitting in the press box at Lambeau. Were
you with that game, by the.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Way, or the ninety nine?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay, so that that game I remember sitting in the
press box, and cause it was it was later in
the it was obviously later in the winter. The Monday
night game was I think was earlier in the year,
if I remember correctly, And I remember sitting in the
press box thinking, you know what, I want to go
down there.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And just see what this cold feels like.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And it felt like you would imagine, I mean, like
your lipocantical terrible couldn't even breathe. So I go down there,
Al Harris runs right by me, and I have this
urge to run out and tack the guy. And obviously
I didn't do it. By the way, if I had
tackled him, I found out the same rule that the
referees were talking about during.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The Eagles a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yet it would have been a touchdown, exactly the the
unfair act thing that they.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Were talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I k would have been fired.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I would have been fired.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
But I talked to Mike. I said, Hey, what would
you have thought? He said, I would have loved it.
Shut because he scored anyway, right, he scored anyway. He said,
you should have tackled the freaking guy.
Speaker 11 (21:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I don't know. I love him. I love him
like a dad, and I hope he gets in the night.
Did well?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I just you know.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
And Matt said it best when he talked about Mike's
unbelievable ability to separate, being the most intimidating man in
the room that could just tear into you like no
one has ever torn in you before, and then how
he is with his friends, with his family, with his kids,
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with his grandkids, with his wife, It's like when I
first met him, he walked into our old studio when
he was just about ready to start with us, right,
and I just.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I was like, oh, my, Mike Homegren is coming in.
This is you know?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And I was, you know, I didn't really cover the
Seahawks back then. I was like twenty seven years old
or something. I wasn't really I was on the Sonic beat,
not the Seahawks beat, So I didn't really spend any
time with Mike homegrennall.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
And I was like, what is this guy? I'm just
gonna be shaking in my boots when I meet him.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
And I ended up talking to him like one on
one for fifteen minutes, like I'd known him for ten years.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
He just made me feel like I'd known him for
ten years. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
He was he was very aware of the media, and
he and he, I mean, look we're talking about like
he's still with us, by the way, the coach. The
coach was very aware of the media. He would look
you in the eye at the press conference, he would
call you by your first name, He'd come over and
say hello and shake your hand, always treated you to
like you're the most important person or you know in
the room at the time. I remember doing a show
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from you know, Northwest College. Uh, the old facility of
the Hawks would practice and we would set up shop
with the old isd in line, running from the building
all the way to the edge of the grass and
doing a show, screaming my guts out, probably doing ten
to one. Homegroun stops to practice, looks at somebody and says, well,
somebody tell him to shut up? And can you imagine?
And that was God, maybe two thousand. I'm twenty seven,
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twenty eight years old. Scared out of my mind, of course,
I mean now like whatever, right, But back then, oh
my god, I'm kind of I'm almost willing to pee
my pants that Mike Colgrin's telling me to shut up?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
What do I do?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
But he always was like that, dude. He was always
great with everybody he met.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I'm sure he's got some enemies. You know, Cleveland probably
thinks differently of him than we do. Green Bay thinks
differently of him than Cleveland does.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Whatever.
Speaker 11 (23:34):
Well, I.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Know that not even home.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
There are but there are people out there that blame that,
that hold that against him. There's people that don't vote
for him for the Hall of Fame because of what
happened in Cleveland with the Browns that you know, well,
he went to Cleveland didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I've heard people say that, by the way, word about Mike.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
So you'd rather have him not even try to go
do that and just rest on his Laura, the Niners
and the other part of it too, by the way,
is the tree the coaching tree. I mean, Wikipedia has
got a separate page just for the Mike Cormgan coaching tree.
Jim Zorn, Mike Sherman, Andy Reid, Marty Morningwig, Dick jar
On Ray Road, Steve Mery Ucci, John Gruden, and from
that spawned John harbop Rat, Jodorus, Steve Spagnola, Bill Callahan,
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Jim Mora Junior, and Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Are you kidding me? Nobody's got a coaching tree like this.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I don't think he gets credit enough for what he
did before he was with Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
With the Niners. Y, yes, I mean he was.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We talk about Spags right now, right, we talk about
the great coordinators in football. Hex Spags might be up
for a for a Hall of Fame boat in the
you know, fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Years, you will.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I'm certain Mike Congrian.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Was as good offensive coordinator as Spags is a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I mean, look, man, it's it's kind of becoming a
tribute day from Mike. It'll be an even bigger tribute
day for him tomorrow. But let's so let's pause this
for a little bit. We'll see what happens tonight and
then hope he we're celebrating all night long, and then
tomorrow on the radio, stay so we're doing a little
fun with audio, and then we're gonna head to Philadelphia
and Kansas City at four o'clock today. Mike Sando's gonna
join us by the way at five with news on
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this talks the NFL. I'm certain we'll get Mike's thoughts
on how this Hall of Fame vote will go down
tonight coming up on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
It's now time for Sufday in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have
some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, real quick, Jackson, random question for you. Do the
Sounders have an under thirteen team?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Ooh, under thirteen?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
They have fifteen seventeen's I don't okay under thirty.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
So these are like academies that these MLS teams have,
is all right? Yeah for these kids?
Speaker 8 (25:39):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So, uh, does anybody know the name Theago MESSI?
Speaker 11 (25:44):
No?
Speaker 8 (25:44):
Is it his sun?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
He's his middle I believe he's Lionel's middle son. And
he plays for the under thirteen inner Miami squad. Yeah,
and they played at Lanti United yesterday. He scored eleven.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Goals in the game.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Wow, a teacher, Dick. What would that be like Dixon
doing on the golf course?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Man?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Oh, that's a sixty three.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
He had five aces in one roun.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, that's that's like a sixty three on a sixty
yard course.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Unfreaking believable. Man, this kid? All right, here we go
a little Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I just lost my freaking page here, by the way,
so we'll have to do it live on the ear. Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Former NFL defensive coordinator Rob Ryan and I thought this
was fake when I first saw it, by the way,
and then I saw awful announcing retweet it. So unless
they fell for it, I guess it's legit. Rob Ryan
is now an assistant coach at USC. Rex Ryan's brother.
At a press conference yesterday, Rob went on a two
minute long rambling answer about Lincoln Riley's springball. USC's new quarterback,
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Jade Mayeva, had a trip with his wife to MAUI.
Speaker 10 (26:53):
What's where we finish this year? What's where we finish
this year? This guy is special. He's special. He knows
how to get it done. He's a great communic, creator,
great teacher. He's fun to be around. He makes everybody better,
including the coaches. And you know, we'll see you. You know,
I'm looking forward for the what do you call it
springball or whatever. I can't wait. We're gonna go against
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the best.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Oh good, bring it on.
Speaker 10 (27:20):
Let's see. I can't wait. See that little juco kid
from Hutch. We're gonna get after this little bit. But anyway,
it'll be great. We're excited, you know. And I saw
the Mayava guy I coached his uncle. I hated that
kid when I first sat a USC kid, a little captain.
Remember he could walk under this table right here, little guy,
and we draft this little runt like, oh man, this guy.
(27:43):
I was all over this kid during the OTAs anyway.
So then I'm like, hey, guys, see, life has going
on vacation with the family, going out to Hawaii, going
to Maui and never been to Maui. I run things
in Oahu, but I'm gonna go to Maui. He's like, hey, Rob,
(28:04):
you getting any kind of trouble?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Now?
Speaker 10 (28:06):
You just tell him, you know. Koluks Im like me, yeah,
I'm gonna tell him. By no, Kollukes walk out there,
got the whole, got me and the wife there. Oh,
we gotta have a romantic evening. No rent a car?
What do you mean you never called for the rental car?
Speaker 8 (28:24):
I tell you she's Greek.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
I'm like, yeah, they must have lost it, so of
course I forgot to call.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
Now they're out of cars.
Speaker 10 (28:32):
I'm in Mawi.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
I got no car, So.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
What do I do?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I know?
Speaker 10 (28:37):
Kaluks I got a car. Oh you know, koluks swear
to God handed God true story.
Speaker 12 (28:42):
I got a van.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
I'm like, yeah, caloms my man.
Speaker 10 (28:45):
Anyway, I end up loving the kid he was Oh man,
is he means a rattles?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Think? I love that guy?
Speaker 10 (28:50):
Ended up? Looks can be deceiving.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Holy smokes.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I don't even know what to say. I don't even
know what to react to. I think the question was
about Lincoln Riley, by the way, yes.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yes, okay, So did somebody in the audience say, Rob,
you haven't answered the question about Lincoln Riley. Can you
please tell us about Lincoln Riley and not your car
rental problems on MAUI I don't know. I mean, I
just kind of feel like, if you're a USC fan,
you're like, oh my god, we're gonna give up ninety
points a game.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well, first of all, well they're used to that.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
That's first. That's true. He sounds just like his brother.
He's just like his brother.
Speaker 13 (29:21):
And did he mean maybe have a couple three four
before the press high stone before he took to the
podium more drunk than I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
He kept walking away and then had to go back
and yeah, the MIC's over there, Rob, Come on, dude,
I think I mean, imagine being a Husky fan and
that's your new that's your new DC.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Because I'm glad we got to play against him.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Lincoln Riiley? Is he actually the DC? Do we know
that he's an assistant to the head coach? Assistant?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Okay, good, because I was gonna say, like, Lincoln Riley
is handing this guy the defense because he's an offensive guy.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Like, holy cow, dude, remember when Nick Coke got the
drop awesome.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, and we.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Thought it was really cool. Then one of the guy
two years later.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
He's gonna be the Remember when Ed or Dron used
to throw to the towel, you know, the sidelines. He
just swing the towel before he was ever anything in
college football.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Maybe that's what Maybe that's what robble be.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
He'll just be like the towel waiver guy with the
long hair flowing.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
We had that guy. He was here with Sark, the
towe waving guy.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
We had a towwaving guy.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, we did. Worked for sort fat face bearded Oregon Douche.
You know that guy, not that guy.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Oh god, well that was uh, that was pretty amazing, man.
I mean that was as as unhinged as it gets. Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Last night the Hornets traded center Mark Williams of the Lakers.
Let's go back three days ago. Oh, I love the
harp halftime of The Wizard's winner for the Hornets. Charlotte's
local TV colour analyst Terrence Oglesby had this to say
about the lack of effort by new laker Mark Williams.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
Here's the thing, Shannon, I'm just gonna say it like,
I'm okay when shots are missed, I'm okay when errors happen.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
But if there's at least effort, I can live with
those things.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
Mark Williams has put together a first half that I've
never seen from a starting center at the NBA level, heck,
even maybe the college level. He was so poor from
an effort perspective today that they had to switch him
off of Jonas Valanciunas, and then he was giving up
wide open threes because he wasn't hustling out to contest
the threes.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
The effort has to be better.
Speaker 11 (31:24):
You might be down twenty three points whatever, but the
effort has to be better. This is crazy, and Mark Williams,
if you're going to be the center of a franchise
where they've invested in you and they have planned for
you to be a core piece of what they're going
to be moving forward, that effort is unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I think I figured it out.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Dave Mark Williams was doing it on purpose because knew
the Lakers needed a center.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yea, he is a player.
Speaker 10 (31:51):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
The whole Lucas, whole Luca trade makes sense. When do
we talk about what the day that Luca got traded?
I said, if you don't get a big, now they
got a big. The Lakers are a legit force in
the Western Conference now with this guy, he's sixteen and
ten a game. Yeah, he plays, He plays, usually plays
with effort. He was a really good player at Duke Man.
(32:14):
The Lakers are gonna be fun to watch down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Seven foot two forty. He's only twenty three years old.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Maybe he just tanked to get himself the hell out
of it. Maybe he pulled the Randy Johnson just so
you know what, my back hurts, get me out of here.
And then he gets traded to the Astros and signs
with the Suns. Hey, Dick, did you happen.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
To hear that? What's that?
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
The broadcasting future Charles Barkley is still very much in
the air. Up in the air, even as Chuck said
he will not be joining NBC or Amazon. Barkley then, though,
joined The Dan Patrick Show on Tuesday and talked about
how much TNT and Turner Sports don't want him to leave.
Speaker 12 (32:47):
I'm trying to figure out all that stuff out, Dan.
It's been very fascinated behind the scenes. There's been a
lot of shitkana be going on behind the scenes that
I haven't been happy with. I'm hoping everything works out,
but I'm it's been fascinated dealing with all the tntbs
this entire time. But I just want to get all
between TNT and ESPN. I said, I just want to
(33:10):
figure out which my workload. They haven't given me in
a definitive answer, because I don't think they know their
definitive answer, to be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
So you could stay at TNT.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I could.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
I could always have stayed a TNT, but I put
in my contract I could get out of there if
they lost the NBA. Yeah, you know, it's really funny.
The TNT people, they're stupid. They tried to say to
me that I was They wrote a c said assist
letter to Amazon and NBC and it really pissed me off.
But they're trying to say that they traded my show
(33:41):
to ESPN. That's the same as them keeping it I'm like,
I don't think that's the way it works.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I love the fact that he's airing his bosses out,
all awesome. Do that again, Charles Barr'd be like me
going on the air and saying, you know what, these
two idiots, Richmore and Mark Glynn that run this freaking
hakamami place that we call iHeartMedia Seattle.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
These knuckleheads have been screwing me over since the.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Day I showed up, and neither idiot has any idea
what the hell he's doing.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
If he was just run by children.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
If you were to say that, okay, that's right, right,
If you.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Were to say that, which I would never say that
never ever else, you would never say that, ever, never
say that. But that's what he just did. If I
didn't give it, Dan, that's what I would do.
Speaker 13 (34:20):
Too.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
It's it's actually entertaining as hell. All right, Well, let's
do we got Jackson break we wanna do? We're gonna break.
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