March 11, 2025 • 36 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain discuss the state of the Seahawks offensive line after the early days of free agency, then ask if they can celebrate the San Francisco 49ers falling apart this offseason plus listen and react to Fun with Audio clips.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go Gonzaga given three and a half? Who
do you like tonight? Bulldogs minus the points or Saint
Mary's plus the three and a half? Give me asking
me all the game. No, I'm asking you right now.
I'm asking you right now, who do you like tonight?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, I'll take Saint Mary's because then I can't can't
lose Saint Mary's plus the points.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
See there turning on Gonzaga already there right live on
the air, in front of our very eyes. Make him
turn in his bulldog card man. He's not a true
Zag fan. He's taking the.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Single time or else you're not a fan? Is that
how betty? Is that how betting works? Thousand percent? I
knew it. I knew it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I knew I could trust you to not really be
a true blue Gonzaga fan. I'm actually feeling very good
about this development, to be totally honest with you. We
got a lot to get to and not a lot
of time to get to it. Warren Moon's gonna join us.
In five twenty eight, we got Warren's thoughts on the
switcheroo of Geno Smith to Sam Darnold, DK Metcalf to Pittsburgh.
Would he sign Aaron Rodgers to beat his quarterback if
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he were running a football team right now in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So lots to get to with Warren.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
John Wilner is going to join us coming up as
well at five o'clock tonight. His weekly hit courtesy of
our friends at simply Seattle dot com Gregg Gigigabelle at.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Four twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Is that right, guys, to talk about the NFL and
everything the Hawks are doing or are not doing, And
you can feel the ground swell of frustration and anger
like a like a white head on a twelve year
old just starting to fester. Okay, remember that first big
ZiT you got when you were like twelve thirteen years old. Goh,
what the hell is that thing?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Man? This is like Mount Vesuvius, my god.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And you're sitting here on social media and you're watching
this ground swell of anger as lineman after lineman after
linemen passed right by the Seahawks and sign with other
teams of the National Football League. And I'll just say this,
and I just think this is I don't really often
talk like this. I would rely on other people like
you to give me your take on things that I say.
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But I think it's a logical way to approach this thing,
that we really do need to wait until after the
draft and probably well into training camp to get a
real feel for what the Seahawk offensive line is gonna
look like. Right, there's gonna be veterans that will get
released in August and players will come open. Hell, the
Seahawks may sign somebody five days before the first game
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of the year for God's sakes.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
To be a starting offensive line for them.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So we really have to see and wait to see
what this offensive line will look like. But damn do
I get the frustration that's mounting out there from Seahawk fans.
But I got, like Corbyn Smith is going on Twitter
if John Schneider doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Sign Tevin Jenkins or Mackai Beckton.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is an abject failure in free agency.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And it's not really about this year though.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
That's the thing, and that's why I get it right,
Because there's a lot of players available. The Seahawks have
a lot of money to spend, and they haven't spent
any of it yet on anybody that can help out
the offensive line. We just saw who's the old man,
Tomlinson Lake and time listening is that right? He just
took off and went and signed with somebody else, So
he's out of here. I don't think that's a big blow.
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But we'll see what he does.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You got your replacement for George Phantom, I guess, right,
which does nothing for most people. He's a swing guy.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
But that's I mean, that's what George Fant was last year, right,
Which isn't enough?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Isn't nearly enough.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I mean, you could argue the Seahawks need three new
starters on their offensive line.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I don't think they're gonna have three.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
They probably will have two, to be honest with you,
but they could use three on their offensive line. And
I just think that the majority of the skepticism, Dick
and the mistrust and the anger is exactly that.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's just mistrust.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Like if the Seahawks had a great offensive line a
year ago. John Schneider had a history of being able
to build a great offensive line. I don't think anybody's
losing sleep over this. Right, There's a ton of guys
out there. We'll see who becomes available. I'm looking at
you know, Beckton's available, Tevin Jenkins is available. Josh Meyers,
the starting center for the Packers, who's twenty six years.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Old, had over a thousand snaps. He's available.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I was just talking to our buddy Matt Deary from
the Locked On Lions podcast. Kevin Zeitler, who started every
game for the Lions a year ago, is available. He's
thirty five. He can't believe the Lions haven't brought it
back yet. E Tevin Jenkins was a starter for the
Eagles on a Super Bowl team. He's going to be
available as a swing guy at guard or tackle. So
there's a lot of options out there still to be had.
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And nobody can be surprised by what John Schneider's doing.
If you've paid attention for five minutes to anything John
does when free agency starts, this is par for the course.
He just sits back on his couch, or he heads
over to Dino's and he watches the biggest ships go by,
and then he'll grab the B and C options and
then wait and see what comes available on Draft Day,
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and wait and see what comes available on cutdown day
in July or early September. So I'm not surprised by
any of this, but I think the majority of the
criticism and you can jump into as well. Jackson is
just about an absolute big time level of distrust that
they're going to fix this thing and they know how
to do it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Just looking at the numbers here since twenty twenty, I'm
gonna give you three numbers, sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I should I should have given you a little bit
of extra time. I mean, the way this works, there's
like six pages of stuff. You know that, right, It's
not all just like I push a button in the sky.
Give me that number again, by the nine Okay, hang
on fifty nine.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Eighty one and one oh eight, which are what those
are the highest draft picks used on an interior offensive
lineman since twenty twenty. Sixty nine, eighty one and one
oh eight by John Schneid.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean, if you're not gonna get them in free
agency and you're not gonna submit big time, you know,
big time draft resources, then how are you going to
get quality interior offensive lineman?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
They are they are committing resources? Is draft capital? You're
just saying they're not committing day one resources right on
a high day two resource.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Jamian Lewis at sixty nine is the highest pick since
twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We have had five drafts since twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right, yeah, And it's not like they already had answers
and could just turn those guys down. I mean, look,
I wanted Create Humphrey and the Hawks wanted d Eskridge instead,
So you know, go talk to those guys about that.
But that's the thing is that this idea that you know,
Schneider had that quote, that infamous quote where I don't
even know what the quote is anymore. It's been so
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stretched and broken up and busted up about not valuing
interior offensive linemen. They're paying overdrafted, overpay whatever that I
don't even know what the hell the guy said anymore,
to be honest with you. It's like a game of
telephone now. But the idea that John doesn't value that position,
I think that that perception is warranted by their history.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You just said it right there, right.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I mean, look, if there's ever a year to go
out and spend some money on a free agent guard,
it's right now, free agent center, it's right now. I mean,
Dolman going to Atlanta. Who is the guy will Will fryars?
Is that his name Will Fry?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Sorry? He took off and went to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Look at the job that Chicago and Minnesota have done
in not even twenty four hours of bolstering their offensive
and defensive lines. Imagine if the Hawks had made moves
like that, how fired up people would be right now.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I think the really frustrating part for me is the
fact that John Steiner came out and he very clearly said,
we understand our deficiency, we understand where the issues. You
when you have the general Manajer see the problem. And
that's the first prior realizing you have a problem. John
Sneiner realized we have a problem here. Okay, great, then
do something about it. And I think that's the frustrating
part is yes, great, John, you understand your problem, right,
(07:51):
And then he's still according to Corbyn Smith like they
had an offer on the table for Fry's three years,
three years, fifty plus million, but Minnesota gets them because
the offered two more years. Sure, So I would say,
as John Schneider buddy, like I think Jackson Bevans, I
think said it best on Twitter, get your head in
the game, man, like call him on, John Schneider, if
you have to give two extra years to solidify the
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interior of your offensive line, get your damn head in
the game, Schneider.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Well, you got to be deficient somewhere right on a roster.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And when I say deficient, I mean in comparison to
the rest of the roster, Like the worst position on
your football team still may be very very good compared
to the rest of the NFL. But if we're ranking
every position group on a football team, some position group somewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Has to be last. And if you want on that list,
hang on.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And they have been last on what I think is
the second most important position group in.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Professional sports, and that's the offensive line. In the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Quarterback number one, Well, would you put into your offensive
line and next tier offensive line is the same value,
because certainly John doesn't. I would not put a garden
center as high as I would have left tack There's
no question about that. But what I put them higher
than a linebacker, What I put them higher than a
tight end or a running back or maybe a safety.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Hell, yes, absolutely, because we've seen what happens when you
have two decent tackles but a crap salad in the
middle of that sandwich on your offensive line. We saw
it a year ago because when Abe Lucas and Charles
Cross we're both playing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I thought they were both pretty good.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, Abe Lucas, you know, banged up a little bit,
you know, I get that, blah blah blah. But we
know what their deficiencies are. I mean, they're black and white.
They're freaking obvious. Everybody knows, even people that don't know
football know what their deficiencies are. My wife knows what
their deficiencies are. It's unbelievable. My dog knows what their
deficiencies are. So I'm just I'm hopeful, I guess, Dick,
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but also very skeptical at the same time that they
can really fix this to a point where it becomes
a strength and not a weakness.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So the original quote was March fourteenth of last year,
guys get overdrafted at that position, and in my opinion,
they get overpaid. February of this year, the point was
clarified and he said, quote, the philosophy is not we're
not going to overpay. We probably will because we have to,
but you have to be smart with those decisions. But
(10:16):
to Jackson's point, I like that by the way, he's
moving in the right direction. But to Jackson's point, you
got a real fish in right I mean two years, John,
I mean, you can have him on the hook, but
the hook, you don't eat the fish if you just
got him on the hook, right, and the guy wiggles away,
and you can't let another guy wiggle away if it
just means a few million here or a few or
(10:37):
another year or two there, because you have greater financial
flexibility now, and this franchise has had a long time.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, Makai Beck Theon would be great, Jenkins would be great,
Brandon Shurf would be great. Josh Myers from Green Bay
would be great. Kevin Zeitler, he's thirty five, but he'd
be great on a one year deal. I mean, look,
I'm not going to sit here and expect that John
Schneider is going to find three new starters and every
single one is gonna have a five year deal. One
of them is likely going to be a rookie, right,
(11:05):
and who knows about Christian Haynes and Big Olu. Can
those guys step it up and win jobs on this
offensive line? I have no problem with them winning jobs
as long as there's competition for those jobs.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And let's face it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
When it came to Big Olu starting at center, there
was no competition because Connor Williams quit.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
He quit, He just went home.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
He said I'm done, and so they had no choice
but to give big Olu the starting center gig.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
He lost the job to Connor Williams.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
They did not see anything from big Olu in training
camp that led them to believe that he can be
their starter. So they went out and signed a guy,
probably way too early, coming off a friggin knee injury,
and he retires. So to me, the center spot is
absolutely a problem. I know he played better towards the
end of the year. Maybe he got motivated a little
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bit by the Connor Williams thing. I got no idea,
but they got to address that. Now they have to
address the left guard because their starter from last year
is now gone officially in free agency. Right guard with
le Maya, I didn't see much from him that makes
me say no to somebody else on the open market.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
So I do think they need three new guys. They
absolutely do.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I would say that, like, listen, if you're looking at
where the big money needs to go, I don't think
it needs to go to a center. You know, Okay,
you want a guy who can compete with Olu. There
but if you go into next season saying, well, we
have Josh Jones here and he has some experience playing guard,
and well, we still believe that Christian Haynes can can
turn into a good player, and well we saw good
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things from La Maya last year. If they go in
and we hear these comments from McDonald and from Schneider
in August, but I'm gonna throw something. I'm gonna break
a window because like, come on, John, like really.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
How much money were you're saying it's not worth to
pay a center? What did you say there, Bertie? But okay, well,
because Drew donmand got fourteen million bucks a year, yes
to Chicago, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Fourteen million is what you need to spend on the
center position. That should go to a you're eighteen million
or twenty that should go to a guard, like if
the top guard, which is now obviously gone with Fries,
but still like that's you get a center for an
eight whatever million to really give you what you think
could be a solidified spot or competition for OLU. But
the big money needs to go to guards because that
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is just a zero. I don't want lamea oloat Timmy
or Bradford starting. They're fine as backups.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I mean there's three guys that you well along with
Christian Haynes, that's four. Michael Girell that's five. Those are
guys that are nice pieces to put in if you
have an injury for a couple of a couple three games,
but you can't rely on them to start. At this point,
we haven't seen anything from any of those guys that
would make that would indicate that they can be starting
interior offensive lineman on top fifteen offensive lines in the league.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Look, I'm just again, just back to the original point.
I understand the frustration out there. I also understand people
that say, hey, let's relax and see what happens in
the next month or so, the next couple of months
or so. But I think I for for this problem
the Seahawks have had. Like Dick, you and I been
around long enough to know the issues the Sonics would
have at center, the Mariners in left field, blah blah blah.
(14:06):
This is becoming that for the Seahawks, right Like longtime
sports fans, and I mean anybody who's paid attention for
the last fifteen years, right, who's been conscious enough to
watch this team play for fifteen years know the problem,
the most consistent issue they've had has been the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So I don't think Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Fans need I'm not saying you're saying this, but Seahawk
fans don't need to calm down. They don't need to relax,
they don't need to be patient or get over it.
I think again, waiting to see what happens in camp. Okay,
that's fine, but I also understand the frustration that Seahawk
fans are dealing with today.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yes, right now.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Now, If you and I are sitting there at the
vMac six days before the first game of the season
and we're starting Anthony Bradford, Satoa Laomea, and Big.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Olu throwing something at a wall, He's throwing.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Some in the wall, and you and I can legitimately
sit there and go, what the heck do we do
the last four months? Like how could we not address
this with even one veteran proven goud.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
They got eleven draft picks and they got a bunch
of money, so they better Dan well go find one.
And by the way, Jackson, to your point about what
the NFL values on the interior, of the offensive line.
That the highest paid center is my guy, Creed Humphrey
making eighteen million dollars a year. There's three guards left
guards and three right guards that are all making over
twenty million. So there's no center making over twenty but
six guards total between left and right, including Tray Smith
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who just got franchised, are making.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Twenty million bucks.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So you want to have, you know, a quality center
in the NFL, You're you're talking ten million plus yep,
minimum for you know, eight eight nine to ten million
minimum minimum eight or nine for a quality center. So
they do need to address that. And I get that,
you got to save some money somewhere. Like the Vikings
are signing all these guys right on their line on
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offense and defense.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Part of the reason why they can do that is
because J. J.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
McCarthy's making nothing, okay, And you know what, the Seahawks
could have gone down that same road if they wanted to.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Also it's scary, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
They could have drafted a rookie, they could have spent
the money on a veteran free agent rebuilt offensive line.
The Vikings did they not just sign three new starters
on their offensive line? I think Minnesota got three new
guys on their offensive line. Chicago's got at least three
and maybe four after Jonah Jackson and Joe Tooney last week.
So the Seahawks could have gone down that road. They
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could have said, no, we're not gonna spend thirty million
bucks on Sam Darnold with time. We're gonna go get
a young guy. We're gonna put all the money on
the offensive line, spend the money elsewhere, and turn this
thing over to a kid. So we'll see, right, we'll
see if they made the right call. We're gonna break
a lot more to get to Greg Bell on this
at four twenty eight today full with audio three forty five. Also,
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is it okay for Seahawks fans to talk smack about
the miserable situation developing in Santa Clara with the forty
nine ers. We'll explain next on ninety three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
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Speaker 1 (17:06):
So, has anybody seeing what's going on down in Santa Clara?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Can you feel it?
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Down extremely difficult before they were so close, so close.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
No, buddy, who could throw a football? That's still my favorite.
That's the uh that's Merril right, the Eagles guy. NFC
championship work. Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Good do buddy who could throw a football?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Well, according to Cheftee our buddy Adam Schefter, who looks
just spent. By the way, have you seen him on
TV the last couple of days, Man, he just looks
like he needs a nap.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I bet he hadn't slept a wink.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Or a little bit of a break, or he's just
getting old, which is probably true because it's true for
all of us.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
The forty nine er departures this offseason, according to Adam Schefter,
Deebo Samuel traded Kyle Ustcheck. I'd love to see here,
by the way, cut Leonard Floyd released, Javon Hardrave, release
Molik Collins defensive tackle.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Cut.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Free agents still on the board, dra Greenlaw, I'm sorry
left in free agency players that have taken off.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
The free agency continues, Dray.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Green Law to our various Ward Telenoahfunger, Aaron Banks, the Guard,
Jalen Moore, offensive tackle, Elijah Mitchell running back, and backup
quarterback Josh Dobbs have all left the San Francisco forty niners.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Could you feel it down?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So we had a group text going on this morning,
and I want to go back and as the time
to accurate as I can be here.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Let me just make sure I can be accurate here. Okay, okay?
Is this okay with you guys? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Cool that okay, let's seeink we said anything to regious there.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Might be something here about a fellow employee. You gotta
take that off. Should we do a celebration?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, okay, So Dick Fane eleven forty am this morning,
and I quote, should we do a celebration today on
the forty nine ers window close? They are packing up me.
Probably not until the Seahawks do something about their offensive line.
Smiley face Jackson. Can't dance on a grave when you're
already in one, says Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Film we.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Hang on, he writes, Okay, maybe that was a bit much,
but you get my point. The O line is in
a grave. Yes, laughing face, Dick has nothing to do
with us. They are no longer a contender. But having
said that, they aren't even trying anymore. They are worse
than we are even with our line. Me, I think
it sounds lame to be talking smack. I didn't say smack,
(19:35):
by the way, about somebody else while you're struggling yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Just my two cents, Dick.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It's a great decision discussion regardless, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Let's debate it on the air, Dick. That's what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Me.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I think discussing it's one thing. Having a separate segment
where we throw a party is another.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Dick.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, that's the spear me. I remember Dick was talking smack.
I didn't say smack either about but the Cougar's getting
killed while the Husky basketball team was getting run And
I thought it sounded totally douchey, Dick, the topic being
we are in any position to dance on San Francisco's grave. Jackson,
Let's stop texting and save this whole conversation for the air.
(20:14):
Me Lol, Dick, I did that off the year to
Ian because he was ripping on the dogs after we
crapped on them on the court. I mean no, this
was on social media a few months ago. Can't remember
the game Warren Moon by the way at five twenty eight, Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay, it is.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So the question is is it appropriate for us as
Seahawk fans, given our position that we're in, to be
talking smack about the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So who wants to go first?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Dick, you're the ouside, I think, of course, because they're
your rivals, and you crap on Oregon all the time,
whether they're better or worse or the same.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So why would there be different rules for the forty
nine ers? Okay, Jackson, go.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Ahead, because when we are already in a very tough
spar right now, especially with the position group that is,
as I said in the grave, we're just let's just
focus on our own house before we go poking fun
out dirty somebody else houses, because our house is not
in order, and frankly, like, we have a bit of
work to do before. I think, even if we're here somehow,
not somehow, even if we are better than the forty
(21:12):
nine ers in twenty twenty five, we are nowhere in
a position to be talking smack, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, okay, so, first of all, the Oregon thing is interesting.
You have never ever seen me, and if you can
ever find it on social media or on the air,
I will pay you cash money. Or I was talking
smack about the Oregon Ducks getting killed or embarrassed at
the same time as the same thing as happening to Washington.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I'll never do that, ever, ever, ever else Well, ever,
you crapped on it. When they lost a house State.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Correct, and they played the day before they beat us?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
What well, the Oregon beat us by a ton and
next week's three weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Later, six weeks they played Oregon in November, and on
the first of January they got their ass kicked by
Ohio State and the rose Balls.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's a very very different scenario.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Feel like, I'm not even sure was that New Year's
Day the Rose Bull? What was the New Year's Day
the Rose Ball? I mean, this is the death of
the four Organ's not dead. They just lost a game.
I do think there is context to all of this.
I mean, that was a much bigger game, the Rose Bowl,
than any regular season basketball game. But again, I'm just
not going to talk smack about my opponent or rival
getting killed while the same exact thing is happening to me.
(22:17):
If it's a separate day, separate context, whatever. But I
get your point. But you know what, though, after I
thought about it, I actually kind of came over to
Dick's side a little bit because I went to the
sports website you may have heard of at ESPN dot com,
and I was looking at the Seahawks home page where
they have all like their standings and stats and all
that stuff, and it says their record from the previous year.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You know what it said, It said ten and seven, first.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Place in the NFC West, Meaning I don't think things
are as bad as we think they are, especially hang on,
especially compared to where the Niners are. All right, I mean,
right now, the Hawks are in a bit of a
quandary with their offensive line. Totally give you that. We
just spent twenty minutes talking about it. If you want
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to say the O line is in a grave, that's fine.
The rest of the team has some talent wide receiver
room we'll see, obviously, but the offensive line is the
biggest issue the team has right now by far. Correct
all that's gonna agree on that the Niners have problems
all over the place. I mean, the Niners are going
to be start to be getting accused of taking for
arch Manning if they keep this up. But they're gonna
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sign brock Purty to a fifty million dollar a year contract,
so they are an absolute disaster right now. I do
think it is appropriate as the biggest rival still, I
think that we have as San Francisco. We can all
agree on that, right, guys, Niners is the biggest rival.
You want to kick dirt in their face a little
bit and say, hey, look, we got our own problems too,
but man, at least we got a place to live.
(23:44):
For crying out loud, you guys are at a bus stop,
eating off a sidewalk.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think acknowledging that God and like, listen, we can.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I think poking fun and acknowledging and talking about while
they have a lot of problems is always well, that's
one thing I'm happy to do that. Yeah, a celebration
a part for the death of a team, I don't
even sure if we're not sure if it's the death.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Week, I get it, I get I mean, look, I
just think that if we're talking in general terms, Dick
wants to kind of crap on the Niners and mock him,
make fun of him, play all the funny clips and
you failing all that, and I'm I'm with it, man,
I'm totally with it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Screw him.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I mean, the Hawks were they tied for first place
in the NFC West, did not make the playoffs. I
get it, embarrassing loss to the Giants, I get it.
But they are in what seems to be, at least
for today, a much better.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Situation than San Francisco's in.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We have our problems, we have our issues, but my god,
San Francisco has got every football std in the book
down there in Santa Clair.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
They are screwed. Man. They still have Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Though good player, well he was a lot better player
with all those great players around him.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And he's also getting older and he's coming off the
injury too. What's crazy is that they make fun of him,
kill him.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
They had a five year window, like we had a
five year and in our five year window, we won
the Super Bowl Championship. And in their five year window
they came up short a couple of different times. Right
and now, I mean, if you were to ask most
Seahawk fans how many games do we beat the Niners
by last year, they'd be like, oh, maybe one or two.
We were four games better than the San Francisco forty
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nine Ers last year, and we've gotten better at least
according to Vegas, and the Niners have gotten significantly worse.
This is a situation we could I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Not saying we will. We could win this division over
the Niners by five games next year.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Right where they could win the division flat out over
the Rams, right by a game or two. You're totally right,
So I don't have any problem with it. I mean, again, normally,
I think it's like if your team is really sucking
it up and they're struggling and they're terrible and embarrassing
to be sitting there talking smack about somebody else, like
the thing with the Kugs, and I don't even know
what game that was, Dick, I may have imagined it,
to be totally honest with you, I thought there was
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a game this year, this last couple of months where
Washington's getting killed, the Coups are getting killed, and like,
I remember sitting there at home seeing that going, man,
we are getting crushed right now, and Fine is like
rubbing it in on Twitter that Wazoo is getting smoked
by somebody.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I was like, does he even know that we're playing?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I don't think I cared that much about Wazoo basketball
to be talking smack about.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Somebody will find it, all right, and maybe maybe you'll
do the investigating yourself, because I have no interest in
doing it.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
But it's out there. It's out there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
But the Oregon saying, look, man, it was New Year's Day,
it was you know, the college football playoffs, and we
are very concerned that this is the year that Oregon's
gonna win the national championship. And they got freaking curb stomps.
So I do think Jackson, like you said, some acknowledgement
of the current Seahawks situation is appropriate. Well, at the
same time, just mocking those bastards and you feel it and.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Telling them that, hey man, your window may have just shut.
You had your chance may shut. Though.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
One thing, you got a basketball team because your football
teammate winning.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Jack sly.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
But here hasn't been confirmed that they are dead though,
And that's the that's the part where like, let's just
wait and make sure that they're dead before they're actually dead.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Here, can we order the hearse to stand by yes,
you all to stand by the road.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
But at the point where they're like, I don't know
what three and six if they're three and six next
season and going into like week ten, week nine, whatever
their body is. Yeah, then all right, Dick, let's celebrate.
I'm just I don't want to celebrate prematurely.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's fair. If the Hawks are three and six, two definitely.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Know what I don't understand is even the most ardent
brock Pretty fans, which I'm not the most ardent brock
Pretty fans, say, hey, you put a great product around
him and Brock Purty can can win a Super Bowl
for you. Well, now they don't have a great product
around him, and they're still gonna pay him fifty million
dollars a year, Like, how does that even make any sense?
Maybe if you're the Niners, now you should kick party
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to the freaking curve and rebuild the rest of your roster.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, we're gonna break.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The comp picks, by the way, have been announced by
the NFL. The Seahawks have received three of them, one
in the fourth round and two in the fifth round.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
We'll get you those details later.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
A little fun with audio, they'll coming next ninety three
three kJ r f M.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
It's now time for soft Day in Dick's one with Audio.
Jimmy G. Pawn star, Jimmy, mister garoppolo. Now let's have
some fun with Audio. I don't forget we got again
Zaga versus Saint Mary's in the w S.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
He's He's, He's the tournament final at six pm, Dick
turning on his beloved Zags and rooting for Saint Mary's.
Tonight the old, the old Fane reversed Jinks tonight. Baby, Uh,
I just I'm betting it. At least he's got a
team to root for in the NCAA tournament, Jackson, Unlike
you and I who were done, our season's over.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I mean, why not pick two more while you're at it?
Take Duke and Auburn. Sure, why not?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I'll take Bruce Pearl. He's Jewish. I'll root for Auburn.
How's that s all right? Love fun with Audio Slash.
Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen
to hear that?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Dick on Colin cow heard show yesterday? Which I guarantee
you Dick Fane already heard because he watches him every day.
The FS one host, reacting to the Steelers trading for
and sign DK Metcalfe to a new five year contract.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
There's an old adage struggling couples often have a baby
to save a marriage, or they buy a house to
save a marriage and it doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
The marriage was in trouble.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
DK metcalf to the Steelers for one hundred and fifty
million dollars in five years. That's a that's buying a
house to save the marriage. The Steelers can't get the
offensive line right, they can't get quarterback right. They spend
too much money on defense. Defensive culture twenty fifth in
rushing at rushing average, twenty fifth in the NFL. So
(29:37):
let's throw a hail Mary to save our offense. What's
ironic is the one position that the Steelers draft and
develop exceedingly well on offense is wide receiver. They've been
great at it for twenty years. To go back to
hinz Ward, thinking you can solve your offense by adding
another expensive, high maintenance wide receiver is like thinking you
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can solve your car troubles by putting in some premium
leather seating.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, that ain't it, man.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So he is like the king of the analogies, at
least from a national perspective. And I'll be honest with you.
In like eighty percent of them. I don't understand. I
understood that one perfectly clear. And I'll just repeat what
I said to you yesterday on the air. I don't
get why the Steelers did this.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I don't eat.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I mean, they've got so many other issues, namely not
having a quarterback. You and I just got done for
the last like two months debating on the air. Is
this the right time in Seahawk history to be dropping
thirty million bucks on a wide receiver? And most of
us said no, And I would ask the Pittsburgh Steeler
fans the same question. Is this the right time for
your franchise to be doing that when you have all
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these other needs?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
In the last six drafts and not using a first
round pick on any of them. They drafted Deontay Johnson,
Juju Smith, Schuster, George Pickens, and Chase Claypool.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I mean, they done fine, that's right. They're kind of
getting wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Why would they spend all that money? I mean, it
just it doesn't make any sense at all. It's like
the Seahawks going out and spending a buttload of money
on a cornerback, right when they've done well at that position.
I mean John Schneider, Pete Carroll together, they've done very
well at that spot. So hey, look, I guess it
could be the Seahawks game if it all turns out absolutely,
I don't get it all right, Hey, Dick, did you happen.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
To hear that? What's that?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Today?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
On Everyone's Got a Podcast Now, including Amen Ross Saint Brown,
the Lions wide receiver, reacting to the Bears spending lots
of money on their offensive and defensive lines in free agency.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I feel like the Bears have unlimited money. It's crazy.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
Every time they just signed a new for like forty
bo Jonah Jackson, Bang juw domond Bang Dayo, go ahead,
go ahead, a crazy amount of money, Grady Jared bang,
Like they're just breaking everybody off for Cayle money.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I mean their cash case is probably they probably have
high the bends just making moves. That's it ry. I'm like,
you're seeing it happen like Bang Bears, Bang Bears.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So they did not have as much cap space as
other teams did in the NFL. They had about thirty
eight million dollars I think when the free agency period began, which,
by the way, if you go to like spot tracking
over the CAAP dot comy thy. All the numbers are
still reflective of what they had before free agency because
nothing's official until tomorrow, right, so all these numbers are
still accurate. I mean, first of all, they've got money,
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partly because Caleb Williams is making nothing and if he's
kind of in a in you know, indirect type of
way wondering why the Lions don't have as much money.
Part of the reason why is because he's making thirty
million dollars in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
That's a great call. That guy right there is making
thirty million.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
He is part of the problem. Their quarterback is making
thirty two. I think Jared Goff is worth thirty two
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
But you know what Jared Goff's gonna make? What is
cap hit is next year?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
What is it get your drop ready that you played
at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I don't know which one that was. Remind me of
ra sixty nine million dollars cap hit?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
There's there's First of all, he's not going to play
on that number fifty nine. That'll be renegotiated. But you know,
I would love to go to I'm and Ross sat
Berne and say, Okay, that's fine. You want money for
a line? Would you give back five million bucks?
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I mean, if every big time player gave back five million,
you guys would have like an extra forty million bucks
to spend.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I made the comment yesterday a wide receiver not named
Jamar Chaser Justin Jefferson should make over thirty million dollars
a year, and that includes a mos.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
NFL football players do not care about winning titles first
and foremost. They care about making as much money as
humanly possible. And I'm fine with that. I just wish
they would admit it, for God's sake, admit it.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Instead of complaining about how we can't sign because I'm
making thirty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Yesterday?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
On ESPN Radio in Arkansas, Razorbacks head coach John Calipari
joined The Chuck and Bow Show not to be confused
with the Chuck and Bucks Show and talked about how
much he cares about the SEC tournament.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
I don't care about the conference tournament, which is why
we want it so many times, because I could care
less the tournament that matters is the NCAA tournament. Now,
you play that tournament to get the best seed you
can get, and if you're gonna get to the finals,
win or don't go to the finals and lose because
you're exhausted and you got to play on Tuesday or Wednesday.
(34:23):
So I'm like, let's play well and try to improve
our seed.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
All right, I'm gonna invoke another salary analogy. How much
money do you think the SEC tournament makes.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
For the SEC?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
You think it makes a decent amount of money? Yes, Okay,
Well that's one of the reasons why John Calipari makes
seven million dollars a year in Kentucky because the SEC
tournament makes butt loads of money for its member institutions.
So that's one reason why he should care.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But he's kind of right. How many years did we talk.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
About, Hey, kick a game, right, kick one? Yep, lose
the final, lose a semi, get it the hell out
of the way. You think Oregon wishes now they'd kicked
the game before the rose ball. You don't want to
lose the final. You want to lose whatever, because you lose,
you get the rest. If you go all the way
to the final. You might as well win the final, well,
but you're still getting an extra day off. I mean
it could be, you know, potentially. And it's not just
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the rest, it's the pressure. Like if you've won thirteen
games in a row already, yeah, and you win the
SEC tournament. Now you're winning sixteen straight. Now you got
to win twenty two in a row to win the
national title. That's more what I was talking about. I
think it's better just kick one out of the way.
All this talk about being perfect, they're winning twenty straight.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
All that comes to it.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
I wonder if the diminishing interest in the conference championship
games in football is going to impact the interest in
conference tournaments in basketball, because you wouldn't you agree the
conference championship game in football.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Means a lot less now than it did ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, look at the attendance, Look at the tickets, Look
at how cheap they were for some of these games.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I'm wondering if that will trickle down.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I mean, we've always thought that conference tournaments were pretty
cool in basketball, and now maybe we won't think so much.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
It's easier in basketball because obviously it's not a contact sport.
All that stuff to travel, blah blah blah. But I
do agree that the college football playoff, for me, has
minimized the importance of the conference championship game in football.
There's no doubt you've got time for one more. Go
to a break, or we'll get to a break. Greg
Bell is going to hop on the air with us
and talk about what the Seahawks are doing or not
(36:23):
doing in free agency. John Wilner at five Warren Moon's
going to join at five twenty eight tonight. Did the
Hawks make the right call in dumping Gino for Shammy?
We'll ask Warren that very question coming up tonight at
five twenty eight. Right here on ninety three to three KJRFM,
Sam Go good Time.
Where we go Gonzaga given three and a half? Who
do you like tonight? Bulldogs minus the points or Saint
Mary's plus the three and a half? Give me asking
me all the game. No, I'm asking you right now.
I'm asking you right now, who do you like tonight?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, I'll take Saint Mary's because then I can't can't
lose Saint Mary's plus the points.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
See there turning on Gonzaga already there right live on
the air, in front of our very eyes. Make him
turn in his bulldog card man. He's not a true
Zag fan. He's taking the.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Single time or else you're not a fan? Is that
how betty? Is that how betting works? Thousand percent? I
knew it. I knew it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I knew I could trust you to not really be
a true blue Gonzaga fan. I'm actually feeling very good
about this development, to be totally honest with you. We
got a lot to get to and not a lot
of time to get to it. Warren Moon's gonna join us.
In five twenty eight, we got Warren's thoughts on the
switcheroo of Geno Smith to Sam Darnold, DK Metcalf to Pittsburgh.
Would he sign Aaron Rodgers to beat his quarterback if
(00:57):
he were running a football team right now in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So lots to get to with Warren.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
John Wilner is going to join us coming up as
well at five o'clock tonight. His weekly hit courtesy of
our friends at simply Seattle dot com Gregg Gigigabelle at.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Four twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Is that right, guys, to talk about the NFL and
everything the Hawks are doing or are not doing, And
you can feel the ground swell of frustration and anger
like a like a white head on a twelve year
old just starting to fester. Okay, remember that first big
ZiT you got when you were like twelve thirteen years old. Goh,
what the hell is that thing?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Man? This is like Mount Vesuvius, my god.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And you're sitting here on social media and you're watching
this ground swell of anger as lineman after lineman after
linemen passed right by the Seahawks and sign with other
teams of the National Football League. And I'll just say this,
and I just think this is I don't really often
talk like this. I would rely on other people like
you to give me your take on things that I say.
(01:58):
But I think it's a logical way to approach this thing,
that we really do need to wait until after the
draft and probably well into training camp to get a
real feel for what the Seahawk offensive line is gonna
look like. Right, there's gonna be veterans that will get
released in August and players will come open. Hell, the
Seahawks may sign somebody five days before the first game
(02:19):
of the year for God's sakes.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
To be a starting offensive line for them.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So we really have to see and wait to see
what this offensive line will look like. But damn do
I get the frustration that's mounting out there from Seahawk fans.
But I got, like Corbyn Smith is going on Twitter
if John Schneider doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Sign Tevin Jenkins or Mackai Beckton.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is an abject failure in free agency.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And it's not really about this year though.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
That's the thing, and that's why I get it right,
Because there's a lot of players available. The Seahawks have
a lot of money to spend, and they haven't spent
any of it yet on anybody that can help out
the offensive line. We just saw who's the old man,
Tomlinson Lake and time listening is that right? He just
took off and went and signed with somebody else, So
he's out of here. I don't think that's a big blow.
(03:06):
But we'll see what he does.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You got your replacement for George Phantom, I guess, right,
which does nothing for most people. He's a swing guy.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
But that's I mean, that's what George Fant was last year, right,
Which isn't enough?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Isn't nearly enough.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I mean, you could argue the Seahawks need three new
starters on their offensive line.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I don't think they're gonna have three.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
They probably will have two, to be honest with you,
but they could use three on their offensive line. And
I just think that the majority of the skepticism, Dick
and the mistrust and the anger is exactly that.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's just mistrust.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Like if the Seahawks had a great offensive line a
year ago. John Schneider had a history of being able
to build a great offensive line. I don't think anybody's
losing sleep over this. Right, There's a ton of guys
out there. We'll see who becomes available. I'm looking at
you know, Beckton's available, Tevin Jenkins is available. Josh Meyers,
the starting center for the Packers, who's twenty six years.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Old, had over a thousand snaps. He's available.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I was just talking to our buddy Matt Deary from
the Locked On Lions podcast. Kevin Zeitler, who started every
game for the Lions a year ago, is available. He's
thirty five. He can't believe the Lions haven't brought it
back yet. E Tevin Jenkins was a starter for the
Eagles on a Super Bowl team. He's going to be
available as a swing guy at guard or tackle. So
there's a lot of options out there still to be had.
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And nobody can be surprised by what John Schneider's doing.
If you've paid attention for five minutes to anything John
does when free agency starts, this is par for the course.
He just sits back on his couch, or he heads
over to Dino's and he watches the biggest ships go by,
and then he'll grab the B and C options and
then wait and see what comes available on Draft Day,
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and wait and see what comes available on cutdown day
in July or early September. So I'm not surprised by
any of this, but I think the majority of the
criticism and you can jump into as well. Jackson is
just about an absolute big time level of distrust that
they're going to fix this thing and they know how
to do it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Just looking at the numbers here since twenty twenty, I'm
gonna give you three numbers, sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I should I should have given you a little bit
of extra time. I mean, the way this works, there's
like six pages of stuff. You know that, right, It's
not all just like I push a button in the sky.
Give me that number again, by the nine Okay, hang
on fifty nine.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Eighty one and one oh eight, which are what those
are the highest draft picks used on an interior offensive
lineman since twenty twenty. Sixty nine, eighty one and one
oh eight by John Schneid.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean, if you're not gonna get them in free
agency and you're not gonna submit big time, you know,
big time draft resources, then how are you going to
get quality interior offensive lineman?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
They are they are committing resources? Is draft capital? You're
just saying they're not committing day one resources right on
a high day two resource.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Jamian Lewis at sixty nine is the highest pick since
twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We have had five drafts since twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right, yeah, And it's not like they already had answers
and could just turn those guys down. I mean, look,
I wanted Create Humphrey and the Hawks wanted d Eskridge instead,
So you know, go talk to those guys about that.
But that's the thing is that this idea that you know,
Schneider had that quote, that infamous quote where I don't
even know what the quote is anymore. It's been so
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stretched and broken up and busted up about not valuing
interior offensive linemen. They're paying overdrafted, overpay whatever that I
don't even know what the hell the guy said anymore,
to be honest with you. It's like a game of
telephone now. But the idea that John doesn't value that position,
I think that that perception is warranted by their history.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You just said it right there, right.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I mean, look, if there's ever a year to go
out and spend some money on a free agent guard,
it's right now, free agent center, it's right now. I mean,
Dolman going to Atlanta. Who is the guy will Will fryars?
Is that his name Will Fry?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Sorry? He took off and went to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Look at the job that Chicago and Minnesota have done
in not even twenty four hours of bolstering their offensive
and defensive lines. Imagine if the Hawks had made moves
like that, how fired up people would be right now.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I think the really frustrating part for me is the
fact that John Steiner came out and he very clearly said,
we understand our deficiency, we understand where the issues. You
when you have the general Manajer see the problem. And
that's the first prior realizing you have a problem. John
Sneiner realized we have a problem here. Okay, great, then
do something about it. And I think that's the frustrating
part is yes, great, John, you understand your problem, right,
(07:51):
And then he's still according to Corbyn Smith like they
had an offer on the table for Fry's three years,
three years, fifty plus million, but Minnesota gets them because
the offered two more years. Sure, So I would say,
as John Schneider buddy, like I think Jackson Bevans, I
think said it best on Twitter, get your head in
the game, man, like call him on, John Schneider, if
you have to give two extra years to solidify the
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interior of your offensive line, get your damn head in
the game, Schneider.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Well, you got to be deficient somewhere right on a roster.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And when I say deficient, I mean in comparison to
the rest of the roster, Like the worst position on
your football team still may be very very good compared
to the rest of the NFL. But if we're ranking
every position group on a football team, some position group somewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Has to be last. And if you want on that list,
hang on.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And they have been last on what I think is
the second most important position group in.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Professional sports, and that's the offensive line. In the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Quarterback number one, Well, would you put into your offensive
line and next tier offensive line is the same value,
because certainly John doesn't. I would not put a garden
center as high as I would have left tack There's
no question about that. But what I put them higher
than a linebacker, What I put them higher than a
tight end or a running back or maybe a safety.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Hell, yes, absolutely, because we've seen what happens when you
have two decent tackles but a crap salad in the
middle of that sandwich on your offensive line. We saw
it a year ago because when Abe Lucas and Charles
Cross we're both playing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I thought they were both pretty good.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, Abe Lucas, you know, banged up a little bit,
you know, I get that, blah blah blah. But we
know what their deficiencies are. I mean, they're black and white.
They're freaking obvious. Everybody knows, even people that don't know
football know what their deficiencies are. My wife knows what
their deficiencies are. It's unbelievable. My dog knows what their
deficiencies are. So I'm just I'm hopeful, I guess, Dick,
(09:47):
but also very skeptical at the same time that they
can really fix this to a point where it becomes
a strength and not a weakness.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So the original quote was March fourteenth of last year,
guys get overdrafted at that position, and in my opinion,
they get overpaid. February of this year, the point was
clarified and he said, quote, the philosophy is not we're
not going to overpay. We probably will because we have to,
but you have to be smart with those decisions. But
(10:16):
to Jackson's point, I like that by the way, he's
moving in the right direction. But to Jackson's point, you
got a real fish in right I mean two years, John,
I mean, you can have him on the hook, but
the hook, you don't eat the fish if you just
got him on the hook, right, and the guy wiggles away,
and you can't let another guy wiggle away if it
just means a few million here or a few or
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another year or two there, because you have greater financial
flexibility now, and this franchise has had a long time.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, Makai Beck Theon would be great, Jenkins would be great,
Brandon Shurf would be great. Josh Myers from Green Bay
would be great. Kevin Zeitler, he's thirty five, but he'd
be great on a one year deal. I mean, look,
I'm not going to sit here and expect that John
Schneider is going to find three new starters and every
single one is gonna have a five year deal. One
of them is likely going to be a rookie, right,
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and who knows about Christian Haynes and Big Olu. Can
those guys step it up and win jobs on this
offensive line? I have no problem with them winning jobs
as long as there's competition for those jobs.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And let's face it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
When it came to Big Olu starting at center, there
was no competition because Connor Williams quit.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
He quit, He just went home.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
He said I'm done, and so they had no choice
but to give big Olu the starting center gig.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
He lost the job to Connor Williams.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
They did not see anything from big Olu in training
camp that led them to believe that he can be
their starter. So they went out and signed a guy,
probably way too early, coming off a friggin knee injury,
and he retires. So to me, the center spot is
absolutely a problem. I know he played better towards the
end of the year. Maybe he got motivated a little
(11:52):
bit by the Connor Williams thing. I got no idea,
but they got to address that. Now they have to
address the left guard because their starter from last year
is now gone officially in free agency. Right guard with
le Maya, I didn't see much from him that makes
me say no to somebody else on the open market.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
So I do think they need three new guys. They
absolutely do.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I would say that, like, listen, if you're looking at
where the big money needs to go, I don't think
it needs to go to a center. You know, Okay,
you want a guy who can compete with Olu. There
but if you go into next season saying, well, we
have Josh Jones here and he has some experience playing guard,
and well, we still believe that Christian Haynes can can
turn into a good player, and well we saw good
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things from La Maya last year. If they go in
and we hear these comments from McDonald and from Schneider
in August, but I'm gonna throw something. I'm gonna break
a window because like, come on, John, like really.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
How much money were you're saying it's not worth to
pay a center? What did you say there, Bertie? But okay, well,
because Drew donmand got fourteen million bucks a year, yes
to Chicago, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Fourteen million is what you need to spend on the
center position. That should go to a you're eighteen million
or twenty that should go to a guard, like if
the top guard, which is now obviously gone with Fries,
but still like that's you get a center for an
eight whatever million to really give you what you think
could be a solidified spot or competition for OLU. But
the big money needs to go to guards because that
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is just a zero. I don't want lamea oloat Timmy
or Bradford starting. They're fine as backups.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I mean there's three guys that you well along with
Christian Haynes, that's four. Michael Girell that's five. Those are
guys that are nice pieces to put in if you
have an injury for a couple of a couple three games,
but you can't rely on them to start. At this point,
we haven't seen anything from any of those guys that
would make that would indicate that they can be starting
interior offensive lineman on top fifteen offensive lines in the league.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Look, I'm just again, just back to the original point.
I understand the frustration out there. I also understand people
that say, hey, let's relax and see what happens in
the next month or so, the next couple of months
or so. But I think I for for this problem
the Seahawks have had. Like Dick, you and I been
around long enough to know the issues the Sonics would
have at center, the Mariners in left field, blah blah blah.
(14:06):
This is becoming that for the Seahawks, right Like longtime
sports fans, and I mean anybody who's paid attention for
the last fifteen years, right, who's been conscious enough to
watch this team play for fifteen years know the problem,
the most consistent issue they've had has been the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So I don't think Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Fans need I'm not saying you're saying this, but Seahawk
fans don't need to calm down. They don't need to relax,
they don't need to be patient or get over it.
I think again, waiting to see what happens in camp. Okay,
that's fine, but I also understand the frustration that Seahawk
fans are dealing with today.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yes, right now.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Now, If you and I are sitting there at the
vMac six days before the first game of the season
and we're starting Anthony Bradford, Satoa Laomea, and Big.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Olu throwing something at a wall, He's throwing.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Some in the wall, and you and I can legitimately
sit there and go, what the heck do we do
the last four months? Like how could we not address
this with even one veteran proven goud.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
They got eleven draft picks and they got a bunch
of money, so they better Dan well go find one.
And by the way, Jackson, to your point about what
the NFL values on the interior, of the offensive line.
That the highest paid center is my guy, Creed Humphrey
making eighteen million dollars a year. There's three guards left
guards and three right guards that are all making over
twenty million. So there's no center making over twenty but
six guards total between left and right, including Tray Smith
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who just got franchised, are making.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Twenty million bucks.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So you want to have, you know, a quality center
in the NFL, You're you're talking ten million plus yep,
minimum for you know, eight eight nine to ten million
minimum minimum eight or nine for a quality center. So
they do need to address that. And I get that,
you got to save some money somewhere. Like the Vikings
are signing all these guys right on their line on
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offense and defense.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Part of the reason why they can do that is
because J. J.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
McCarthy's making nothing, okay, And you know what, the Seahawks
could have gone down that same road if they wanted to.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Also it's scary, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
They could have drafted a rookie, they could have spent
the money on a veteran free agent rebuilt offensive line.
The Vikings did they not just sign three new starters
on their offensive line? I think Minnesota got three new
guys on their offensive line. Chicago's got at least three
and maybe four after Jonah Jackson and Joe Tooney last week.
So the Seahawks could have gone down that road. They
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could have said, no, we're not gonna spend thirty million
bucks on Sam Darnold with time. We're gonna go get
a young guy. We're gonna put all the money on
the offensive line, spend the money elsewhere, and turn this
thing over to a kid. So we'll see, right, we'll
see if they made the right call. We're gonna break
a lot more to get to Greg Bell on this
at four twenty eight today full with audio three forty five. Also,
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is it okay for Seahawks fans to talk smack about
the miserable situation developing in Santa Clara with the forty
nine ers. We'll explain next on ninety three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick Gone your home for
the in the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point three
kJ R FM.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So, has anybody seeing what's going on down in Santa Clara?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Can you feel it?
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Down extremely difficult before they were so close, so close.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
No, buddy, who could throw a football? That's still my favorite.
That's the uh that's Merril right, the Eagles guy. NFC
championship work. Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Good do buddy who could throw a football?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Well, according to Cheftee our buddy Adam Schefter, who looks
just spent. By the way, have you seen him on
TV the last couple of days, Man, he just looks
like he needs a nap.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I bet he hadn't slept a wink.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Or a little bit of a break, or he's just
getting old, which is probably true because it's true for
all of us.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
The forty nine er departures this offseason, according to Adam Schefter,
Deebo Samuel traded Kyle Ustcheck. I'd love to see here,
by the way, cut Leonard Floyd released, Javon Hardrave, release
Molik Collins defensive tackle.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Cut.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Free agents still on the board, dra Greenlaw, I'm sorry
left in free agency players that have taken off.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
The free agency continues, Dray.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Green Law to our various Ward Telenoahfunger, Aaron Banks, the Guard,
Jalen Moore, offensive tackle, Elijah Mitchell running back, and backup
quarterback Josh Dobbs have all left the San Francisco forty niners.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Could you feel it down?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So we had a group text going on this morning,
and I want to go back and as the time
to accurate as I can be here.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Let me just make sure I can be accurate here. Okay, okay?
Is this okay with you guys? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Cool that okay, let's seeink we said anything to regious there.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Might be something here about a fellow employee. You gotta
take that off. Should we do a celebration?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, okay, So Dick Fane eleven forty am this morning,
and I quote, should we do a celebration today on
the forty nine ers window close? They are packing up me.
Probably not until the Seahawks do something about their offensive line.
Smiley face Jackson. Can't dance on a grave when you're
already in one, says Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Film we.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Hang on, he writes, Okay, maybe that was a bit much,
but you get my point. The O line is in
a grave. Yes, laughing face, Dick has nothing to do
with us. They are no longer a contender. But having
said that, they aren't even trying anymore. They are worse
than we are even with our line. Me, I think
it sounds lame to be talking smack. I didn't say smack,
(19:35):
by the way, about somebody else while you're struggling yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Just my two cents, Dick.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It's a great decision discussion regardless, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Let's debate it on the air, Dick. That's what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Me.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I think discussing it's one thing. Having a separate segment
where we throw a party is another.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Dick.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, that's the spear me. I remember Dick was talking smack.
I didn't say smack either about but the Cougar's getting
killed while the Husky basketball team was getting run And
I thought it sounded totally douchey, Dick, the topic being
we are in any position to dance on San Francisco's grave. Jackson,
Let's stop texting and save this whole conversation for the air.
(20:14):
Me Lol, Dick, I did that off the year to
Ian because he was ripping on the dogs after we
crapped on them on the court. I mean no, this
was on social media a few months ago. Can't remember
the game Warren Moon by the way at five twenty eight, Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay, it is.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So the question is is it appropriate for us as
Seahawk fans, given our position that we're in, to be
talking smack about the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So who wants to go first?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Dick, you're the ouside, I think, of course, because they're
your rivals, and you crap on Oregon all the time,
whether they're better or worse or the same.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So why would there be different rules for the forty
nine ers? Okay, Jackson, go.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Ahead, because when we are already in a very tough
spar right now, especially with the position group that is,
as I said in the grave, we're just let's just
focus on our own house before we go poking fun
out dirty somebody else houses, because our house is not
in order, and frankly, like, we have a bit of
work to do before. I think, even if we're here somehow,
not somehow, even if we are better than the forty
(21:12):
nine ers in twenty twenty five, we are nowhere in
a position to be talking smack, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, okay, so, first of all, the Oregon thing is interesting.
You have never ever seen me, and if you can
ever find it on social media or on the air,
I will pay you cash money. Or I was talking
smack about the Oregon Ducks getting killed or embarrassed at
the same time as the same thing as happening to Washington.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I'll never do that, ever, ever, ever else Well, ever,
you crapped on it. When they lost a house State.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Correct, and they played the day before they beat us?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
What well, the Oregon beat us by a ton and
next week's three weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Later, six weeks they played Oregon in November, and on
the first of January they got their ass kicked by
Ohio State and the rose Balls.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's a very very different scenario.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Feel like, I'm not even sure was that New Year's
Day the Rose Bull? What was the New Year's Day
the Rose Ball? I mean, this is the death of
the four Organ's not dead. They just lost a game.
I do think there is context to all of this.
I mean, that was a much bigger game, the Rose Bowl,
than any regular season basketball game. But again, I'm just
not going to talk smack about my opponent or rival
getting killed while the same exact thing is happening to me.
(22:17):
If it's a separate day, separate context, whatever. But I
get your point. But you know what, though, after I
thought about it, I actually kind of came over to
Dick's side a little bit because I went to the
sports website you may have heard of at ESPN dot com,
and I was looking at the Seahawks home page where
they have all like their standings and stats and all
that stuff, and it says their record from the previous year.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You know what it said, It said ten and seven, first.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Place in the NFC West, Meaning I don't think things
are as bad as we think they are, especially hang on,
especially compared to where the Niners are. All right, I mean,
right now, the Hawks are in a bit of a
quandary with their offensive line. Totally give you that. We
just spent twenty minutes talking about it. If you want
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to say the O line is in a grave, that's fine.
The rest of the team has some talent wide receiver
room we'll see, obviously, but the offensive line is the
biggest issue the team has right now by far. Correct
all that's gonna agree on that the Niners have problems
all over the place. I mean, the Niners are going
to be start to be getting accused of taking for
arch Manning if they keep this up. But they're gonna
(23:23):
sign brock Purty to a fifty million dollar a year contract,
so they are an absolute disaster right now. I do
think it is appropriate as the biggest rival still, I
think that we have as San Francisco. We can all
agree on that, right, guys, Niners is the biggest rival.
You want to kick dirt in their face a little
bit and say, hey, look, we got our own problems too,
but man, at least we got a place to live.
(23:44):
For crying out loud, you guys are at a bus stop,
eating off a sidewalk.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think acknowledging that God and like, listen, we can.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I think poking fun and acknowledging and talking about while
they have a lot of problems is always well, that's
one thing I'm happy to do that. Yeah, a celebration
a part for the death of a team, I don't
even sure if we're not sure if it's the death.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Week, I get it, I get I mean, look, I
just think that if we're talking in general terms, Dick
wants to kind of crap on the Niners and mock him,
make fun of him, play all the funny clips and
you failing all that, and I'm I'm with it, man,
I'm totally with it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Screw him.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I mean, the Hawks were they tied for first place
in the NFC West, did not make the playoffs. I
get it, embarrassing loss to the Giants, I get it.
But they are in what seems to be, at least
for today, a much better.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Situation than San Francisco's in.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We have our problems, we have our issues, but my god,
San Francisco has got every football std in the book
down there in Santa Clair.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
They are screwed. Man. They still have Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Though good player, well he was a lot better player
with all those great players around him.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And he's also getting older and he's coming off the
injury too. What's crazy is that they make fun of him,
kill him.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
They had a five year window, like we had a
five year and in our five year window, we won
the Super Bowl Championship. And in their five year window
they came up short a couple of different times. Right
and now, I mean, if you were to ask most
Seahawk fans how many games do we beat the Niners
by last year, they'd be like, oh, maybe one or two.
We were four games better than the San Francisco forty
(25:19):
nine Ers last year, and we've gotten better at least
according to Vegas, and the Niners have gotten significantly worse.
This is a situation we could I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Not saying we will. We could win this division over
the Niners by five games next year.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Right where they could win the division flat out over
the Rams, right by a game or two. You're totally right,
So I don't have any problem with it. I mean, again, normally,
I think it's like if your team is really sucking
it up and they're struggling and they're terrible and embarrassing
to be sitting there talking smack about somebody else, like
the thing with the Kugs, and I don't even know
what game that was, Dick, I may have imagined it,
to be totally honest with you, I thought there was
(25:54):
a game this year, this last couple of months where
Washington's getting killed, the Coups are getting killed, and like,
I remember sitting there at home seeing that going, man,
we are getting crushed right now, and Fine is like
rubbing it in on Twitter that Wazoo is getting smoked
by somebody.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I was like, does he even know that we're playing?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I don't think I cared that much about Wazoo basketball
to be talking smack about.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Somebody will find it, all right, and maybe maybe you'll
do the investigating yourself, because I have no interest in
doing it.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
But it's out there. It's out there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
But the Oregon saying, look, man, it was New Year's Day,
it was you know, the college football playoffs, and we
are very concerned that this is the year that Oregon's
gonna win the national championship. And they got freaking curb stomps.
So I do think Jackson, like you said, some acknowledgement
of the current Seahawks situation is appropriate. Well, at the
same time, just mocking those bastards and you feel it and.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Telling them that, hey man, your window may have just shut.
You had your chance may shut. Though.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
One thing, you got a basketball team because your football
teammate winning.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Jack sly.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
But here hasn't been confirmed that they are dead though,
And that's the that's the part where like, let's just
wait and make sure that they're dead before they're actually dead.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Here, can we order the hearse to stand by yes,
you all to stand by the road.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
But at the point where they're like, I don't know
what three and six if they're three and six next
season and going into like week ten, week nine, whatever
their body is. Yeah, then all right, Dick, let's celebrate.
I'm just I don't want to celebrate prematurely.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's fair. If the Hawks are three and six, two definitely.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Know what I don't understand is even the most ardent
brock Pretty fans, which I'm not the most ardent brock
Pretty fans, say, hey, you put a great product around
him and Brock Purty can can win a Super Bowl
for you. Well, now they don't have a great product
around him, and they're still gonna pay him fifty million
dollars a year, Like, how does that even make any sense?
Maybe if you're the Niners, now you should kick party
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to the freaking curve and rebuild the rest of your roster.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, we're gonna break.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The comp picks, by the way, have been announced by
the NFL. The Seahawks have received three of them, one
in the fourth round and two in the fifth round.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
We'll get you those details later.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
A little fun with audio, they'll coming next ninety three
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Speaker 2 (28:03):
It's now time for soft Day in Dick's one with Audio.
Jimmy G. Pawn star, Jimmy, mister garoppolo. Now let's have
some fun with Audio. I don't forget we got again
Zaga versus Saint Mary's in the w S.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
He's He's, He's the tournament final at six pm, Dick
turning on his beloved Zags and rooting for Saint Mary's.
Tonight the old, the old Fane reversed Jinks tonight. Baby, Uh,
I just I'm betting it. At least he's got a
team to root for in the NCAA tournament, Jackson, Unlike
you and I who were done, our season's over.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I mean, why not pick two more while you're at it?
Take Duke and Auburn. Sure, why not?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I'll take Bruce Pearl. He's Jewish. I'll root for Auburn.
How's that s all right? Love fun with Audio Slash.
Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen
to hear that?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Dick on Colin cow heard show yesterday? Which I guarantee
you Dick Fane already heard because he watches him every day.
The FS one host, reacting to the Steelers trading for
and sign DK Metcalfe to a new five year contract.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
There's an old adage struggling couples often have a baby
to save a marriage, or they buy a house to
save a marriage and it doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
The marriage was in trouble.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
DK metcalf to the Steelers for one hundred and fifty
million dollars in five years. That's a that's buying a
house to save the marriage. The Steelers can't get the
offensive line right, they can't get quarterback right. They spend
too much money on defense. Defensive culture twenty fifth in
rushing at rushing average, twenty fifth in the NFL. So
(29:37):
let's throw a hail Mary to save our offense. What's
ironic is the one position that the Steelers draft and
develop exceedingly well on offense is wide receiver. They've been
great at it for twenty years. To go back to
hinz Ward, thinking you can solve your offense by adding
another expensive, high maintenance wide receiver is like thinking you
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can solve your car troubles by putting in some premium
leather seating.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, that ain't it, man.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So he is like the king of the analogies, at
least from a national perspective. And I'll be honest with you.
In like eighty percent of them. I don't understand. I
understood that one perfectly clear. And I'll just repeat what
I said to you yesterday on the air. I don't
get why the Steelers did this.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I don't eat.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I mean, they've got so many other issues, namely not
having a quarterback. You and I just got done for
the last like two months debating on the air. Is
this the right time in Seahawk history to be dropping
thirty million bucks on a wide receiver? And most of
us said no, And I would ask the Pittsburgh Steeler
fans the same question. Is this the right time for
your franchise to be doing that when you have all
(30:46):
these other needs?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
In the last six drafts and not using a first
round pick on any of them. They drafted Deontay Johnson,
Juju Smith, Schuster, George Pickens, and Chase Claypool.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I mean, they done fine, that's right. They're kind of
getting wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Why would they spend all that money? I mean, it
just it doesn't make any sense at all. It's like
the Seahawks going out and spending a buttload of money
on a cornerback, right when they've done well at that position.
I mean John Schneider, Pete Carroll together, they've done very
well at that spot. So hey, look, I guess it
could be the Seahawks game if it all turns out absolutely,
I don't get it all right, Hey, Dick, did you happen.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
To hear that? What's that?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Today?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
On Everyone's Got a Podcast Now, including Amen Ross Saint Brown,
the Lions wide receiver, reacting to the Bears spending lots
of money on their offensive and defensive lines in free agency.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I feel like the Bears have unlimited money. It's crazy.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
Every time they just signed a new for like forty
bo Jonah Jackson, Bang juw domond Bang Dayo, go ahead,
go ahead, a crazy amount of money, Grady Jared bang,
Like they're just breaking everybody off for Cayle money.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I mean their cash case is probably they probably have
high the bends just making moves. That's it ry. I'm like,
you're seeing it happen like Bang Bears, Bang Bears.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So they did not have as much cap space as
other teams did in the NFL. They had about thirty
eight million dollars I think when the free agency period began, which,
by the way, if you go to like spot tracking
over the CAAP dot comy thy. All the numbers are
still reflective of what they had before free agency because
nothing's official until tomorrow, right, so all these numbers are
still accurate. I mean, first of all, they've got money,
(32:29):
partly because Caleb Williams is making nothing and if he's
kind of in a in you know, indirect type of
way wondering why the Lions don't have as much money.
Part of the reason why is because he's making thirty
million dollars in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
That's a great call. That guy right there is making
thirty million.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
He is part of the problem. Their quarterback is making
thirty two. I think Jared Goff is worth thirty two
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
But you know what Jared Goff's gonna make? What is
cap hit is next year?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
What is it get your drop ready that you played
at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I don't know which one that was. Remind me of
ra sixty nine million dollars cap hit?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
There's there's First of all, he's not going to play
on that number fifty nine. That'll be renegotiated. But you know,
I would love to go to I'm and Ross sat
Berne and say, Okay, that's fine. You want money for
a line? Would you give back five million bucks?
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I mean, if every big time player gave back five million,
you guys would have like an extra forty million bucks
to spend.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I made the comment yesterday a wide receiver not named
Jamar Chaser Justin Jefferson should make over thirty million dollars
a year, and that includes a mos.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
NFL football players do not care about winning titles first
and foremost. They care about making as much money as
humanly possible. And I'm fine with that. I just wish
they would admit it, for God's sake, admit it.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Instead of complaining about how we can't sign because I'm
making thirty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Yesterday?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
On ESPN Radio in Arkansas, Razorbacks head coach John Calipari
joined The Chuck and Bow Show not to be confused
with the Chuck and Bucks Show and talked about how
much he cares about the SEC tournament.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
I don't care about the conference tournament, which is why
we want it so many times, because I could care
less the tournament that matters is the NCAA tournament. Now,
you play that tournament to get the best seed you
can get, and if you're gonna get to the finals,
win or don't go to the finals and lose because
you're exhausted and you got to play on Tuesday or Wednesday.
(34:23):
So I'm like, let's play well and try to improve
our seed.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
All right, I'm gonna invoke another salary analogy. How much
money do you think the SEC tournament makes.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
For the SEC?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
You think it makes a decent amount of money? Yes, Okay,
Well that's one of the reasons why John Calipari makes
seven million dollars a year in Kentucky because the SEC
tournament makes butt loads of money for its member institutions.
So that's one reason why he should care.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But he's kind of right. How many years did we talk.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
About, Hey, kick a game, right, kick one? Yep, lose
the final, lose a semi, get it the hell out
of the way. You think Oregon wishes now they'd kicked
the game before the rose ball. You don't want to
lose the final. You want to lose whatever, because you lose,
you get the rest. If you go all the way
to the final. You might as well win the final, well,
but you're still getting an extra day off. I mean
it could be, you know, potentially. And it's not just
(35:13):
the rest, it's the pressure. Like if you've won thirteen
games in a row already, yeah, and you win the
SEC tournament. Now you're winning sixteen straight. Now you got
to win twenty two in a row to win the
national title. That's more what I was talking about. I
think it's better just kick one out of the way.
All this talk about being perfect, they're winning twenty straight.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
All that comes to it.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
I wonder if the diminishing interest in the conference championship
games in football is going to impact the interest in
conference tournaments in basketball, because you wouldn't you agree the
conference championship game in football.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Means a lot less now than it did ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, look at the attendance, Look at the tickets, Look
at how cheap they were for some of these games.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I'm wondering if that will trickle down.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I mean, we've always thought that conference tournaments were pretty
cool in basketball, and now maybe we won't think so much.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
It's easier in basketball because obviously it's not a contact sport.
All that stuff to travel, blah blah blah. But I
do agree that the college football playoff, for me, has
minimized the importance of the conference championship game in football.
There's no doubt you've got time for one more. Go
to a break, or we'll get to a break. Greg
Bell is going to hop on the air with us
and talk about what the Seahawks are doing or not
(36:23):
doing in free agency. John Wilner at five Warren Moon's
going to join at five twenty eight tonight. Did the
Hawks make the right call in dumping Gino for Shammy?
We'll ask Warren that very question coming up tonight at
five twenty eight. Right here on ninety three to three KJRFM,
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