March 12, 2025 • 29 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler chats with Petros Papadakis about Sam Darnold at USC and his family history plus LeBron James vs. Stephen A. Smith, then Dick Fain shares what he learned from Colin Cowherd today, including a clip discussing Darnold.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:35):
Hey, we got Sam Darnold.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Forty one yards.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You know where that came from, don't you. That's the
first thing I thought of right here.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
First touchdown, good time looking deep downfield into.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The end zone.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Touchdown Jacks, Robbie Anderson.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Sam Darnold out of San Clemente?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Is that right? San Clemente. He's our guy, He's our guy.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
What do you want to know? First of all, was
that a preseason game or a regular season game? Call
this Sam Donald?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
What time?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That was a regular season game? I believe? Let me
hear the whole Hang.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
On, Sam Donald, good time looking deep downfield into.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The end zone.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Touchdown Jacks, Robbie Anderson. And the first TV T Sam
Donald's career goes forty one yards.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Forty one yards, that's the first thing I thought of.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I gotta be honest, Sam Donald, time, what do you
want to talk about him? You know him better than
I do. The Trojan He's in the Trojan family.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
He really is.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
After and Caleb Williams was here and then he kind
of disappeared, right, I mean he he came from Oklahoma,
They talked about him doing his nails, he cried in
his mother's bosom, and then he was in Chicago. He
won a Heisman and certainly made Lincoln Riley look great
for about a year and a half. But Caleb Williams,
(03:03):
I mean, yeah, he was a USC quarterback. Yeah he's
a Heisman winner, right, But it really feels like since
the Pete Carroll era, Sam Donald is really one of.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
The last really great USC just players.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I know there's other guys Dory Jason, Suic Craven's and all.
That doesn't sound like you put Caleb in the same
category of the Trojan family as you do.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Sam Donald. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think maybe I should, But they haven't done much
to endear themselves to the the ex players people like me,
or the or the alums, you know, the Lincoln Riley
era that we could talk more about that a little while.
They just hired a GM to kind of fill in
the gaps. Yeah, I saw that. It's whose son.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Got the job? Somebody's son that we know. Jim Bowden.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, Jim Bowden's son, right, Jim was on the air
with us like two weeks ago. I mean, I get it.
Caleb's a transfer. He wasn't a trojan through and through.
Sam Donald was a trojan, played at USC, never left,
and then became the number three pick in the draft, right, Yeah,
And it was it was also that he just kind
of emerged and the way he emerged and how he emerged,
(04:13):
and just his athletic ability, his strength. The pocket would
close in and he'd literally like jump up and throw
the ball at a jump pass. He did some amazing things.
And you know me, I'm not easily impressed. We watched
college football for a living, and I was at He
was everything I wanted Jake Locker to be.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Wow, if that makes do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
As a college player, he was every like and he
would come back and will the team to victory. And
his biggest victory was in a Rose Bowl against James
Franklin's Penn State team Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, the shootout, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And they ended up winning that game because he made
some unbelievable plays. So there's that part of it. He's
from San Clemente, which is the oldest, one of the
oldest communities in Orange County.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's a really really local surf.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Community that does not have any luxury hotels in it,
even though it's one of those coastal towns, and that
kind of changes the personality of San Clemente. It's right
on the border at the edge of Orange County, the
last stop before Camp Pendleton and then you get into
San Diego if you know your way, all the way
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down the five Freeway. So that's where he's from. They
have a whole moniker there, one town, one team, and
the San Clemente Triton's very proud high school football program
and very much kind of not transfer laden. They're all
pulling the same oars from within the town, which is
(05:54):
really interesting. The fact that he came from that is cool.
And Dick Hammer is his grandfather. Do you know who
Dick Hammer was?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
What's his name again? Dick Hammer?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Richard Bernard Hammer is maybe even more famous than yeah,
a famous. He was the Marlboro Man. He was an
emergency he was a big time volleyball star. And that's
his grandfather. That's his wow grandfather. Okay, gotcha, and he
died a.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Lung cancer around the turn of the century.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, well he endorsed Marlborough. Yeah, well freaking Marlboro man exactly.
I mean, not surprising, but yeah, but he was an
absolute star and his daughter, one of his daughters, well,
Sam's mom was a record holding a volleyball player at
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Rhode Island. So I mean, they have a great athletic
pedigree in the family. I love the high school program
that came from and their vibe, and I love him
as a player. I love that his head looks like
a juiced up version of the bad guy and toy story.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
He's got he's got some perfect analogy, by the.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Way, and got he's got my endorsement. And you know,
I know football is so situational in nature, and it
goes to show.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, the Jets.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I'm reluctant to say, wow, that's a poorly run NFL franchise,
but you look at what the Jets have put out
there year in and year out, and it just seems
like they're unable to develop their own quarterback talent or
deal with somebody else's Aaron Rodgers. So maybe that and
Carolina was a bad situation. And you just see, he
(07:50):
found a good situation and the circumstance of football finally
shined upon him. And he's got this hundred million dollar contract.
So I wish him all all the luck in the
world in Seattle. I hope he has a good career. Well,
Pete got you know what Pete got, Gino? You saw
that Geno? Right, How do you think Pete will deal
with Gino down there? Well, I mean, I think that
(08:11):
the general consensus was if you wanted a more sure
thing as as a quarterback in the veteran market as
far as free agents go, that was going to be Geno,
right or not free agents or trade or whatever, right
a right, that was going to be Geno Smith because
of his maturity, his ability, his kind of I guess
(08:36):
he's got the miles on the tires where he's been
a few different places, and you're you're going to have
to have I mean, you're competing against Justin Herbert and
Patrick Mahomes and so on, U Bo Nicks, who's really
emerged and so on and so forth in that in
that division. So it's not going to be easy. So
(08:56):
they have to have a trigger man who's able to
do with those guys. And I think Geno's proven that
he's a viable NFL starting quarterback under Pete Carroll, So
why not?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Hey, how much how much have you feel sorry for you?
For us?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
How much have you talked about this Lebron stephen A
Smith's spat.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
On your shop?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Not too much, you know, because then it's like an
ESPN generated content and all that.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
But I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Don't want to help ESPN out with their huge numbers.
And then look, I met stephen A. Smith, I don't
know what was it twenty twenty years ago on the
sideline of a USC game, right, And I wasn't yelling
at him.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
About anything, right, but.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
He had the two bodyguards standing right there yeast, And.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I was like, why does this guy need a bodyguard?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And how many years ago? It was like twenty years Yeah,
he wouldn't need a bodyguard. Then that too, on the
sideline of the LA Coliseum.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You must have listened to too many rap albums from
l A, you know, back in the day. But yeah,
I was. I was befuddled.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Obviously, he is a very, very prevalent sports personality to
where he makes ten million dollars a year and all that,
so twenty million dollars whatever it is, so far be
it for me to criticize anything he does because.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Obviously he knows what he's doing. I guess, uh.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And the way he immerses himself in the makes himself
part of the story. I mean he shows up at
nick games in a suit like he's playing, like he
does like a tunnel walk in like a cool suit. Yeah,
they record that, put it on social media.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah arrived.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I don't know if it's tongue in cheek or if
he really takes himself seriously. Feels like he takes himself
really seriously. I think he believes he's a big damn deal. Well,
somebody gives you twenty million dollars a year to go
out there and say clearly a bunch of times and yeah, sure,
but you know a lot of guys that make a
lot of money that don't have egos like that or
I don't know. I mean, when you get to that point,
(10:59):
I don't know. The answer, I guess is no, who's
the biggest egomaniac you ever worked with? By the way,
off the top of your head or hung around. And
I mean you used to say on Todd Graham would
look in a mirror and say you're the coach of
the year. Only an egomaniac does something like that. Yeah,
I think you run into a lot of those in broadcasting,
(11:19):
people that take their job, that think their job is
like signing the Magna Carta or something. But you know,
in this, in this case, like I hate it really
takes a Lebron James to make Stephen A. Smith a
sympathetic figure in my eyes right in this in this context,
because it's just so stupid. It's like you shoehorn your
(11:42):
kid into the league and then no one's allowed to
say anything about it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And if you say something about it, you're attacking his son.
It's like, no, Stephen, he said it right, It's very simple. No,
I'm talking about you. I'm talking about what you did
with your power and it's annoying. Look, any of these
and we've talked about it on your air. Any of
these guys that make a bunch of money, Colin Cowherd,
steven A, whatever, they if they say something bad about Lebron,
(12:08):
they get a call from Lebron's people, Lebron has the biggest,
most sensitive rabbit ears in the history of sports. And
for every great thing that Lebron has done on the
court and off the court and his whole career, there's
almost something equally as unsavory to knock him down a peg,
(12:30):
as far as the way he plays, the way he
manipulates rosters, the way they get coaches fired, if his
whole career and all of the things that he's done,
as far as creating super teams, being an a hole
doing that, I mean, it just goes on and on.
If all of that stuff is just a ploy to
(12:52):
be mentioned along with Michael Jordan and be the greatest
of all time and even said that he was because
he made that block against the Warriors in the NBA Finals,
then he is an absol. He's as much of a
failure as Megan Markle is as a royal. If Lebron James,
if all of this was orchestrated, this new March injury
(13:15):
to go allegedly get his HG eight shots in Germany
once a year before the big playoff push, if all
of this has been done to try to put him
up there in the constellations of the stars of the
mythological figures and make him greater than Michael Jordan than
he has failed in the most miserable fashion that you
(13:38):
could ever imagine. Oh God, and every move he makes,
every strategic movie makes beyond just going out and being
a great basketball player, makes it worse and worse, and
just it's just stupid. But he must, he must be
incredibly dumb. I mean, honestly, I love how much you
(14:00):
can't stand Lebron. I just I despise the media manipulation.
If you're if you're the greatest of all time, then
who cares what anybody says about you?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And why do you have to tell people that you are?
And you know the truth is that you're not, and
that we have to sit here and live immersed in
this swamp of Lebron news. I mean, they gave us
his other son as a five star recruit with with
a scholarship to the University of Arizona, and he doesn't
(14:33):
even start on his high school basketball team. He doesn't
even start. He's a five star. How could he be
a five star and not he's not a five star? Well, well,
he's got and Bronnie James was a McDonald's All America.
And that is not right. That was not right. He
(14:54):
wasn't even the best player in his league. He wasn't
even the best player on his team. He was like
the third option on his own team. And yet he's
seven times better than the other one. And the other
one's a five star recruit. Tired of the live softy,
that's all. Tired of the life. I love it, Never change,
never give up the fight. Ever, ever, ever, there's one
thing we can count on. It's Petros and his disdain
(15:15):
for Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And I love it. Not even that, I I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Just embrace it, man, Come, it's not even that. I
just it's the medium manipulent.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I got it. I got it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And how about you know, read a couple pages into
the book before you bring it out on a into
a press conference with you. Nobody wants to see a
straight spined, unopened book about Malcolm Max And then we're
gonna supposed to act like your w E B D boys.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Shut up?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh god, hey, Uh Petro's papadotas with us on the air,
courtesy issweet James dot com.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Uh what the hell is this? Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Rich Rodriguez is banning as players from dancing on TikTok thing.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Why can't he do that? I don't know. He should
be able to do whatever he wants. Well, yeah, West Virginia,
for god sake.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And realize that people dancing on TikTok was a thing
among high school and college kids.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
He didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
He wants no dancing, no waving your puzza around on
TikTok after the game.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Did you get your daughter a phone yet? By the way,
speaking of toll.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
No, Ok, she's lucky she's not sent to boarding Schoolstand.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
You know, she's nine, and it's like you want to
act all hard and act all grown up and like
put on makeup and do all this weird stuff. Wow,
you know, and then do you want to act like
a baby? You know, when people get mad at you,
it's like, where's the middle ground? You know, how about
acting like a nine year old, not a two year old,
not a thirty year old, a nine year old.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Well, she is nine, and you know you got to
give her a break. Yeah. God feels like a pain
of the ass over there.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Everything's a pain of the ass, softie. What else is
bugging for people like me that are neuro divergent. How
about Fletcher, He's a good kid. Yes, my kids are
wonderful kids, except your kids. But my kids are a.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Lot like me.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
When I was growing up and I was the worst.
I was the worst person that ever lived. I recognize
so many things that I used to do and be
like in my kids that I am constantly reminded and
humiliated by what a terrible person I.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Was growing up. And I try to convey to my children.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Listen, I don't want you to have to scream and
yell on AM radio to make a living, you know,
I want I want you to be a responsible member
of society' not a worthless sack. I get it, Hey, man,
I feel like that every day in this You know,
are you kid me?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
God?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You do realize how little we offer society in this?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Trust me? The older I get Yeah, I mean I
used to be impressed with myself.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That in thousand you know I'm on the radio. Now
you go to places like radio in the Super Bowl,
surrounded by vermin, you realize what a bum you really are.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yes, I would rather be the Marlborough Man.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Totally and be Sam Donald's grandfather.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Whni wouldn't you Sam Donald? Good time?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Looking deep downfield into the end zone? Touchdown Jacks Robbie Anderson.
Then the first TD T Sam Donald's career goes forty
one yards.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know what we underrated is so true? The first
TD woo who says throw? Who says throw like you're
throwing your voice around a church through I like the
way she says career, Yeah, career. It reminds me of footloose.
Remember John Lithgow, Oh yeah, he is practicing his sermon. God,
(18:47):
dude's like he's like, whoa, whoa, Hey was it Lori Singer?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You wrapped those skinny legs around anybody? Wouldn't you? My god?
What happened? Man? Was shet?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Holy cow?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I don of like them skinny chicks.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Really like a little pushing for the cushion. Well, I guess,
but you just said it wrong. But anyway, how am
I supposed to say it? You're pushing for the pushing?
There you go, okay, sorry, And nobody says that since
like nineteen eighty. Well that's because we're fifty years old.
That's why we talk like that.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I still don't say that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Does data know you like fat girls.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I think everybody knows.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
On that note, we'll get out of here, all right.
Congratulations on Sam Darnold. All right, man, we'll talk in
a week. Actually, no, I'm off next Wednesday. So you
got you got Dick next week?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I get Dick Hammer. You got Dick Hammer. You got
Dick vane Hammer next week? All right?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Man, see you bud be trust papadakas with us. We're
gonna break. We got a lot more to get to
on a busy Wednesday. Uh hey, free agency the new
league year, yay has begun?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Well? Yackt about it? Coming up on ninety three three
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Speaker 1 (20:00):
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Speaker 2 (20:13):
The Seahawks have not officially announced the Sam Arnold acquisition yet.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Is that correct? Correct? Not officially? Okay?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Did you hear the question I brought up in crosstalk
today with Ferness? No, what if he fails his physical Well,
what do they have got to choose? Between Aaron Rodgers
and Russell Wilson? Which one would you want. You can
only have one. You have to have one. How about this,
it's a new game, you have to have one.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
You take Russell really just because of them, because the
fact as weird as Russell Wilson is, at least he's
are weird.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers totally outplayed him in the second
half of the year, like his no question, we're really
really good Aaron Rodgers the second half.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
I'm saying I would I would throw away the extra
twenty percent of production you would get by getting Aaron
Rodgers just to not have.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
To deal with Okay, well, I'll tell you what Mike.
My concern would be, how would he treat a thirty
six year old head coach? And Mike mcdonaldy would run
him over, He would chew him up and spin him out.
He wouldn't give a damn.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Sorry, So you're saying that the press conference for tomorrow
is just for DeMarcus Lawrence, then.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Just saying I'd like to hear announcement on Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
That'd be nice, man.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I know you want to give us a little bit
of time, but how much freaking time does Sam Donald need?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Sam Donald?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
But the freaking press conference going. Okay, So we haven't
done this in a while.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It's time. I feel like we should have some music
for this. Jackson. By the way, it's time.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
For another edition of What did Dick Fane Learn on
The Colin Cowhard Show.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
He has been good lately. It's been a great week.
What did Dick You're creepy?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
On The Colin Cowhard Show. Well, it could not have
started better today.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I got on the old treadmill and the and I
just was fired up for the first forty minutes because
he spent the entire first segment talking about why Sam
Donald was better for the Seahawks than Gino Smith. And
he spent the entire second segment making fun of the
San Francisco forty nine ers and and with the disaster
that will befall them if they signed Brock Party to
a big contract. So I was just I was, as
(22:23):
you say, fat guy in a bakery for like forty
minutes on the treadmill.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
But let's hear what Colin had to say.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Here's a two minute to segment of that first fifteen
minutes he had in the show today.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
And I don't want to criticize any media people by name,
but the Seahawks signing Sam Donald and letting go of
Gino Smith, some of the takes by you media people
have been awful. Geno Smith last year had twenty one
TD's and fifteen picks. He's thirty four. Donald's more mobile.
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Donald signed an incredibly Seahawk friendly deal. Darnald was better
than Gino last year. What's all the hysteria? Like, I
understand the media falls for stories, but the story has
gone from what a great comeback story?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Too?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Hey, Gino Smith is irreplaceable? What twenty one touchdowns, fifteen picks?
And he had two good running backs, and he had
three good receivers and he had a capable tight end.
Speaking of comeback stories, media, how about we come back
to reality. Donald, seven years younger, had a much better year,
(23:39):
much better athlete mobility wise. And that deal Donald signed
with the Seahawks, Sam gave away money. He knows the
value of being in a good situation. Donald, that's an
incredibly Seahawk friendly deal. It's like the Buccaneers Baker deal.
It's incredibly team friendly. And in both cases Johnson and
(23:59):
I Seattle, Jason lytton Tampa, you have an elite GMS.
This is very much Tampa. You kind of got a
quarterback who's B to B plus and you got him
for like a C minus contract. So I mean, think
about this all the How did you let Geno Smith go?
Russell Wilson right now can't really find a job, and
(24:24):
in the last two years he's had more touchdown passes
in a higher passer rating than Geno Smith. People are
You're all freaking out, like the media just latches onto
stories and they can't let go. I'm gonna make a guarantee.
This is Colin's personal guarantee or your money back. Darnold
will do better than twenty one touchdowns and fifteen picks
(24:46):
next year?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Will he do better than Geno Smith than Vegas? Though
he's a question if he does the same, it's still
a better deal. Yeah, because you're making money. You're making
money the draft pick, right. I mean, look, I agree
with him, you know, for as pissed off as you
were at me for not being happy enough about the
DeMarcus Lawrence and Marcus Valdez Scandling trade, I think it's
(25:09):
a no brainer at quarterback. I mean, I look, we
talked about this a month ago. When we were on
the air and we all made the proclamation that we're
just kind of ready to move on from Geno, right.
I mean, he did the best he could, Right, He's
a great dude, everyone loves him, blah blah blah, bring
him back, let him shake hands, kiss babies. Exceeded expectations,
but they need an upgrade there. And I think Sam
Darnold out of all the available quarterbacks and free agency,
(25:31):
I mean, you could say maybe Aaron Rodgers if he
plays the way he did in the back half of
the year with the Jets. But then, as you said,
the jerk factor, you know, the bad teammate factor is
a problem for a young head coach, obviously, and forty
six year old Robert Sala couldn't handle. He got fired,
by the way, because of that guy in a lot
of ways. So I'm kind of with you. I don't
want anything to do with that dude. But this to me,
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if you're going to upgrade a quarterback of all the
realistic options, he gives you the best chance. I mean,
nothing's for certain and obviously, but I think he gives
you the best chance to get better at the most
important spot in sports, and Frankly, I don't understand what
people's issue is. I mean, like, who's the most anti
Donald in geno out guy?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Jackson Bevans? Mean on social MENA. You gotta get him
on the air and just say, like, what's the deal,
what's going on? Because to me, unless I'm just an idiot,
which I am and I'm missing something, which I might be,
this is pretty freaking clearness.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Well get it.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
What I'm looking at.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
All we see all the time quarterback rankings, Right, there's
a billion quarterback rankings. What I haven't seen is quarterback
value rankings. Right, So you take the talent of the quarterback,
you take what he's making, and then you say, okay,
would I trade my quarterback at thirty three million dollars
a year for quarterback X at whatever he's making and
(26:50):
a vast majority I mean throw out the top. Okay,
yes I'm not I'm trading Donald for mahomes Allen, you're.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Saying, like those guys, right.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
You look at the next level, Dak Kyler DeShawn.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
How much is Dak making?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Sixty million? Dak is making He's making sixty sixty millions.
Rather have Sam Darnold and thirty twenty seven million dollars
or Dak Prescott, of.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Course, Sam Kyler, Deshaun Watson, Jordan Love at fifty five
million dollars a year, Tua at fifty two million dollars
a year.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I mean, Mike, God, here's what I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And again, normally I kind of pride myself to be
honest with you. I'm trying to see both sides of
an argument. Every now and then there's one that comes
up where I just don't get it. I don't get
the other side, Like I'm looking at the text line.
I'm sorry, I'm cheating. Two of six. Gino is much
better than Darnald, much much better. Like based on what
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what are you talking about over the course of the
last you know, three ish years.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I mean, look, he.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Declined, he declined every single year. He is much older
than Sam Darnald. He would cost you a lot, We'd
cost you another thirty three percent more whatever it is,
and we get happy argument Donald was making. I just
like to know what's the what's the evidence? Like, what
are you talking about? Like, don't just text the show
and say he's better? Why? Why is he better? Because
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everything I'm seeing that's not the case at all.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
It literally comes back to the fact that Gino Smith
has done it for more than one a year, and
Sam's Donald don't. That's that's really the argument for everybody
who's anti this move to me, if you just flip
flop the contracts, Let's say Gino gets forty three million
a year.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Okay, because we're talking forty to forty five.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Let's say Gino gets so it's exactly ten million more
than Donald. Now, if you flip flop that, then I'd
be kind of fifty to fifty Donald at forty three,
Gino at thirty three. I'd be like, eh, I might
even lean Gino at thirty three. But if you flip
them back to thirty three Donald forty three Gino, that
is a slam dunk of slam dunks.
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Speaker 3 (01:35):
Hey, we got Sam Darnold.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Forty one yards.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You know where that came from, don't you. That's the
first thing I thought of right here.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
First touchdown, good time looking deep downfield into.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The end zone.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Touchdown Jacks, Robbie Anderson.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Sam Darnold out of San Clemente?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Is that right? San Clemente. He's our guy, He's our guy.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
What do you want to know? First of all, was
that a preseason game or a regular season game? Call
this Sam Donald?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
What time?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That was a regular season game? I believe? Let me
hear the whole Hang.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
On, Sam Donald, good time looking deep downfield into.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The end zone.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Touchdown Jacks, Robbie Anderson. And the first TV T Sam
Donald's career goes forty one yards.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Forty one yards, that's the first thing I thought of.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I gotta be honest, Sam Donald, time, what do you
want to talk about him? You know him better than
I do. The Trojan He's in the Trojan family.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
He really is.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
After and Caleb Williams was here and then he kind
of disappeared, right, I mean he he came from Oklahoma,
They talked about him doing his nails, he cried in
his mother's bosom, and then he was in Chicago. He
won a Heisman and certainly made Lincoln Riley look great
for about a year and a half. But Caleb Williams,
(03:03):
I mean, yeah, he was a USC quarterback. Yeah he's
a Heisman winner, right, But it really feels like since
the Pete Carroll era, Sam Donald is really one of.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
The last really great USC just players.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I know there's other guys Dory Jason, Suic Craven's and all.
That doesn't sound like you put Caleb in the same
category of the Trojan family as you do.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Sam Donald. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think maybe I should, But they haven't done much
to endear themselves to the the ex players people like me,
or the or the alums, you know, the Lincoln Riley
era that we could talk more about that a little while.
They just hired a GM to kind of fill in
the gaps. Yeah, I saw that. It's whose son.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Got the job? Somebody's son that we know. Jim Bowden.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, Jim Bowden's son, right, Jim was on the air
with us like two weeks ago. I mean, I get it.
Caleb's a transfer. He wasn't a trojan through and through.
Sam Donald was a trojan, played at USC, never left,
and then became the number three pick in the draft, right, Yeah,
And it was it was also that he just kind
of emerged and the way he emerged and how he emerged,
(04:13):
and just his athletic ability, his strength. The pocket would
close in and he'd literally like jump up and throw
the ball at a jump pass. He did some amazing things.
And you know me, I'm not easily impressed. We watched
college football for a living, and I was at He
was everything I wanted Jake Locker to be.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Wow, if that makes do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
As a college player, he was every like and he
would come back and will the team to victory. And
his biggest victory was in a Rose Bowl against James
Franklin's Penn State team Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, the shootout, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And they ended up winning that game because he made
some unbelievable plays. So there's that part of it. He's
from San Clemente, which is the oldest, one of the
oldest communities in Orange County.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's a really really local surf.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Community that does not have any luxury hotels in it,
even though it's one of those coastal towns, and that
kind of changes the personality of San Clemente. It's right
on the border at the edge of Orange County, the
last stop before Camp Pendleton and then you get into
San Diego if you know your way, all the way
(05:32):
down the five Freeway. So that's where he's from. They
have a whole moniker there, one town, one team, and
the San Clemente Triton's very proud high school football program
and very much kind of not transfer laden. They're all
pulling the same oars from within the town, which is
(05:54):
really interesting. The fact that he came from that is cool.
And Dick Hammer is his grandfather. Do you know who
Dick Hammer was?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
What's his name again? Dick Hammer?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Richard Bernard Hammer is maybe even more famous than yeah,
a famous. He was the Marlboro Man. He was an
emergency he was a big time volleyball star. And that's
his grandfather. That's his wow grandfather. Okay, gotcha, and he
died a.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Lung cancer around the turn of the century.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, well he endorsed Marlborough. Yeah, well freaking Marlboro man exactly.
I mean, not surprising, but yeah, but he was an
absolute star and his daughter, one of his daughters, well,
Sam's mom was a record holding a volleyball player at
(06:51):
Rhode Island. So I mean, they have a great athletic
pedigree in the family. I love the high school program
that came from and their vibe, and I love him
as a player. I love that his head looks like
a juiced up version of the bad guy and toy story.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
He's got he's got some perfect analogy, by the.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Way, and got he's got my endorsement. And you know,
I know football is so situational in nature, and it
goes to show.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, the Jets.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I'm reluctant to say, wow, that's a poorly run NFL franchise,
but you look at what the Jets have put out
there year in and year out, and it just seems
like they're unable to develop their own quarterback talent or
deal with somebody else's Aaron Rodgers. So maybe that and
Carolina was a bad situation. And you just see, he
(07:50):
found a good situation and the circumstance of football finally
shined upon him. And he's got this hundred million dollar contract.
So I wish him all all the luck in the
world in Seattle. I hope he has a good career. Well,
Pete got you know what Pete got, Gino? You saw
that Geno? Right, How do you think Pete will deal
with Gino down there? Well, I mean, I think that
(08:11):
the general consensus was if you wanted a more sure
thing as as a quarterback in the veteran market as
far as free agents go, that was going to be Geno,
right or not free agents or trade or whatever, right
a right, that was going to be Geno Smith because
of his maturity, his ability, his kind of I guess
(08:36):
he's got the miles on the tires where he's been
a few different places, and you're you're going to have
to have I mean, you're competing against Justin Herbert and
Patrick Mahomes and so on, U Bo Nicks, who's really
emerged and so on and so forth in that in
that division. So it's not going to be easy. So
(08:56):
they have to have a trigger man who's able to
do with those guys. And I think Geno's proven that
he's a viable NFL starting quarterback under Pete Carroll, So
why not?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Hey, how much how much have you feel sorry for you?
For us?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
How much have you talked about this Lebron stephen A
Smith's spat.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
On your shop?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Not too much, you know, because then it's like an
ESPN generated content and all that.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
But I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Don't want to help ESPN out with their huge numbers.
And then look, I met stephen A. Smith, I don't
know what was it twenty twenty years ago on the
sideline of a USC game, right, And I wasn't yelling
at him.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
About anything, right, but.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
He had the two bodyguards standing right there yeast, And.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I was like, why does this guy need a bodyguard?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And how many years ago? It was like twenty years Yeah,
he wouldn't need a bodyguard. Then that too, on the
sideline of the LA Coliseum.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You must have listened to too many rap albums from
l A, you know, back in the day. But yeah,
I was. I was befuddled.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Obviously, he is a very, very prevalent sports personality to
where he makes ten million dollars a year and all that,
so twenty million dollars whatever it is, so far be
it for me to criticize anything he does because.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Obviously he knows what he's doing. I guess, uh.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And the way he immerses himself in the makes himself
part of the story. I mean he shows up at
nick games in a suit like he's playing, like he
does like a tunnel walk in like a cool suit. Yeah,
they record that, put it on social media.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah arrived.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I don't know if it's tongue in cheek or if
he really takes himself seriously. Feels like he takes himself
really seriously. I think he believes he's a big damn deal. Well,
somebody gives you twenty million dollars a year to go
out there and say clearly a bunch of times and yeah, sure,
but you know a lot of guys that make a
lot of money that don't have egos like that or
I don't know. I mean, when you get to that point,
(10:59):
I don't know. The answer, I guess is no, who's
the biggest egomaniac you ever worked with? By the way,
off the top of your head or hung around. And
I mean you used to say on Todd Graham would
look in a mirror and say you're the coach of
the year. Only an egomaniac does something like that. Yeah,
I think you run into a lot of those in broadcasting,
(11:19):
people that take their job, that think their job is
like signing the Magna Carta or something. But you know,
in this, in this case, like I hate it really
takes a Lebron James to make Stephen A. Smith a
sympathetic figure in my eyes right in this in this context,
because it's just so stupid. It's like you shoehorn your
(11:42):
kid into the league and then no one's allowed to
say anything about it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And if you say something about it, you're attacking his son.
It's like, no, Stephen, he said it right, It's very simple. No,
I'm talking about you. I'm talking about what you did
with your power and it's annoying. Look, any of these
and we've talked about it on your air. Any of
these guys that make a bunch of money, Colin Cowherd,
steven A, whatever, they if they say something bad about Lebron,
(12:08):
they get a call from Lebron's people, Lebron has the biggest,
most sensitive rabbit ears in the history of sports. And
for every great thing that Lebron has done on the
court and off the court and his whole career, there's
almost something equally as unsavory to knock him down a peg,
(12:30):
as far as the way he plays, the way he
manipulates rosters, the way they get coaches fired, if his
whole career and all of the things that he's done,
as far as creating super teams, being an a hole
doing that, I mean, it just goes on and on.
If all of that stuff is just a ploy to
(12:52):
be mentioned along with Michael Jordan and be the greatest
of all time and even said that he was because
he made that block against the Warriors in the NBA Finals,
then he is an absol. He's as much of a
failure as Megan Markle is as a royal. If Lebron James,
if all of this was orchestrated, this new March injury
(13:15):
to go allegedly get his HG eight shots in Germany
once a year before the big playoff push, if all
of this has been done to try to put him
up there in the constellations of the stars of the
mythological figures and make him greater than Michael Jordan than
he has failed in the most miserable fashion that you
(13:38):
could ever imagine. Oh God, and every move he makes,
every strategic movie makes beyond just going out and being
a great basketball player, makes it worse and worse, and
just it's just stupid. But he must, he must be
incredibly dumb. I mean, honestly, I love how much you
(14:00):
can't stand Lebron. I just I despise the media manipulation.
If you're if you're the greatest of all time, then
who cares what anybody says about you?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And why do you have to tell people that you are?
And you know the truth is that you're not, and
that we have to sit here and live immersed in
this swamp of Lebron news. I mean, they gave us
his other son as a five star recruit with with
a scholarship to the University of Arizona, and he doesn't
(14:33):
even start on his high school basketball team. He doesn't
even start. He's a five star. How could he be
a five star and not he's not a five star? Well, well,
he's got and Bronnie James was a McDonald's All America.
And that is not right. That was not right. He
(14:54):
wasn't even the best player in his league. He wasn't
even the best player on his team. He was like
the third option on his own team. And yet he's
seven times better than the other one. And the other
one's a five star recruit. Tired of the live softy,
that's all. Tired of the life. I love it, Never change,
never give up the fight. Ever, ever, ever, there's one
thing we can count on. It's Petros and his disdain
(15:15):
for Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And I love it. Not even that, I I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Just embrace it, man, Come, it's not even that. I
just it's the medium manipulent.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I got it. I got it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And how about you know, read a couple pages into
the book before you bring it out on a into
a press conference with you. Nobody wants to see a
straight spined, unopened book about Malcolm Max And then we're
gonna supposed to act like your w E B D boys.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Shut up?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh god, hey, Uh Petro's papadotas with us on the air,
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Speaker 3 (15:48):
Uh what the hell is this? Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Rich Rodriguez is banning as players from dancing on TikTok thing.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Why can't he do that? I don't know. He should
be able to do whatever he wants. Well, yeah, West Virginia,
for god sake.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And realize that people dancing on TikTok was a thing
among high school and college kids.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
He didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
He wants no dancing, no waving your puzza around on
TikTok after the game.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Did you get your daughter a phone yet? By the way,
speaking of toll.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
No, Ok, she's lucky she's not sent to boarding Schoolstand.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
You know, she's nine, and it's like you want to
act all hard and act all grown up and like
put on makeup and do all this weird stuff. Wow,
you know, and then do you want to act like
a baby? You know, when people get mad at you,
it's like, where's the middle ground? You know, how about
acting like a nine year old, not a two year old,
not a thirty year old, a nine year old.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Well, she is nine, and you know you got to
give her a break. Yeah. God feels like a pain
of the ass over there.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Everything's a pain of the ass, softie. What else is
bugging for people like me that are neuro divergent. How
about Fletcher, He's a good kid. Yes, my kids are
wonderful kids, except your kids. But my kids are a.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Lot like me.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
When I was growing up and I was the worst.
I was the worst person that ever lived. I recognize
so many things that I used to do and be
like in my kids that I am constantly reminded and
humiliated by what a terrible person I.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Was growing up. And I try to convey to my children.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Listen, I don't want you to have to scream and
yell on AM radio to make a living, you know,
I want I want you to be a responsible member
of society' not a worthless sack. I get it, Hey, man,
I feel like that every day in this You know,
are you kid me?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
God?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You do realize how little we offer society in this?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Trust me? The older I get Yeah, I mean I
used to be impressed with myself.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That in thousand you know I'm on the radio. Now
you go to places like radio in the Super Bowl,
surrounded by vermin, you realize what a bum you really are.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yes, I would rather be the Marlborough Man.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Totally and be Sam Donald's grandfather.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Whni wouldn't you Sam Donald? Good time?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Looking deep downfield into the end zone? Touchdown Jacks Robbie Anderson.
Then the first TD T Sam Donald's career goes forty
one yards.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know what we underrated is so true? The first
TD woo who says throw? Who says throw like you're
throwing your voice around a church through I like the
way she says career, Yeah, career. It reminds me of footloose.
Remember John Lithgow, Oh yeah, he is practicing his sermon. God,
(18:47):
dude's like he's like, whoa, whoa, Hey was it Lori Singer?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You wrapped those skinny legs around anybody? Wouldn't you? My god?
What happened? Man? Was shet?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Holy cow?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I don of like them skinny chicks.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Really like a little pushing for the cushion. Well, I guess,
but you just said it wrong. But anyway, how am
I supposed to say it? You're pushing for the pushing?
There you go, okay, sorry, And nobody says that since
like nineteen eighty. Well that's because we're fifty years old.
That's why we talk like that.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I still don't say that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Does data know you like fat girls.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I think everybody knows.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
On that note, we'll get out of here, all right.
Congratulations on Sam Darnold. All right, man, we'll talk in
a week. Actually, no, I'm off next Wednesday. So you
got you got Dick next week?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I get Dick Hammer. You got Dick Hammer. You got
Dick vane Hammer next week? All right?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Man, see you bud be trust papadakas with us. We're
gonna break. We got a lot more to get to
on a busy Wednesday. Uh hey, free agency the new
league year, yay has begun?
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Well? Yackt about it? Coming up on ninety three three
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Speaker 2 (20:13):
The Seahawks have not officially announced the Sam Arnold acquisition yet.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Is that correct? Correct? Not officially? Okay?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Did you hear the question I brought up in crosstalk
today with Ferness? No, what if he fails his physical Well,
what do they have got to choose? Between Aaron Rodgers
and Russell Wilson? Which one would you want. You can
only have one. You have to have one. How about this,
it's a new game, you have to have one.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
You take Russell really just because of them, because the
fact as weird as Russell Wilson is, at least he's
are weird.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers totally outplayed him in the second
half of the year, like his no question, we're really
really good Aaron Rodgers the second half.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
I'm saying I would I would throw away the extra
twenty percent of production you would get by getting Aaron
Rodgers just to not have.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
To deal with Okay, well, I'll tell you what Mike.
My concern would be, how would he treat a thirty
six year old head coach? And Mike mcdonaldy would run
him over, He would chew him up and spin him out.
He wouldn't give a damn.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Sorry, So you're saying that the press conference for tomorrow
is just for DeMarcus Lawrence, then.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Just saying I'd like to hear announcement on Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
That'd be nice, man.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I know you want to give us a little bit
of time, but how much freaking time does Sam Donald need?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Sam Donald?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
But the freaking press conference going. Okay, So we haven't
done this in a while.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It's time. I feel like we should have some music
for this. Jackson. By the way, it's time.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
For another edition of What did Dick Fane Learn on
The Colin Cowhard Show.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
He has been good lately. It's been a great week.
What did Dick You're creepy?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
On The Colin Cowhard Show. Well, it could not have
started better today.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I got on the old treadmill and the and I
just was fired up for the first forty minutes because
he spent the entire first segment talking about why Sam
Donald was better for the Seahawks than Gino Smith. And
he spent the entire second segment making fun of the
San Francisco forty nine ers and and with the disaster
that will befall them if they signed Brock Party to
a big contract. So I was just I was, as
(22:23):
you say, fat guy in a bakery for like forty
minutes on the treadmill.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
But let's hear what Colin had to say.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Here's a two minute to segment of that first fifteen
minutes he had in the show today.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
And I don't want to criticize any media people by name,
but the Seahawks signing Sam Donald and letting go of
Gino Smith, some of the takes by you media people
have been awful. Geno Smith last year had twenty one
TD's and fifteen picks. He's thirty four. Donald's more mobile.
(22:56):
Donald signed an incredibly Seahawk friendly deal. Darnald was better
than Gino last year. What's all the hysteria? Like, I
understand the media falls for stories, but the story has
gone from what a great comeback story?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Too?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Hey, Gino Smith is irreplaceable? What twenty one touchdowns, fifteen picks?
And he had two good running backs, and he had
three good receivers and he had a capable tight end.
Speaking of comeback stories, media, how about we come back
to reality. Donald, seven years younger, had a much better year,
(23:39):
much better athlete mobility wise. And that deal Donald signed
with the Seahawks, Sam gave away money. He knows the
value of being in a good situation. Donald, that's an
incredibly Seahawk friendly deal. It's like the Buccaneers Baker deal.
It's incredibly team friendly. And in both cases Johnson and
(23:59):
I Seattle, Jason lytton Tampa, you have an elite GMS.
This is very much Tampa. You kind of got a
quarterback who's B to B plus and you got him
for like a C minus contract. So I mean, think
about this all the How did you let Geno Smith go?
Russell Wilson right now can't really find a job, and
(24:24):
in the last two years he's had more touchdown passes
in a higher passer rating than Geno Smith. People are
You're all freaking out, like the media just latches onto
stories and they can't let go. I'm gonna make a guarantee.
This is Colin's personal guarantee or your money back. Darnold
will do better than twenty one touchdowns and fifteen picks
(24:46):
next year?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Will he do better than Geno Smith than Vegas? Though
he's a question if he does the same, it's still
a better deal. Yeah, because you're making money. You're making
money the draft pick, right. I mean, look, I agree
with him, you know, for as pissed off as you
were at me for not being happy enough about the
DeMarcus Lawrence and Marcus Valdez Scandling trade, I think it's
(25:09):
a no brainer at quarterback. I mean, I look, we
talked about this a month ago. When we were on
the air and we all made the proclamation that we're
just kind of ready to move on from Geno, right.
I mean, he did the best he could, Right, He's
a great dude, everyone loves him, blah blah blah, bring
him back, let him shake hands, kiss babies. Exceeded expectations,
but they need an upgrade there. And I think Sam
Darnold out of all the available quarterbacks and free agency,
(25:31):
I mean, you could say maybe Aaron Rodgers if he
plays the way he did in the back half of
the year with the Jets. But then, as you said,
the jerk factor, you know, the bad teammate factor is
a problem for a young head coach, obviously, and forty
six year old Robert Sala couldn't handle. He got fired,
by the way, because of that guy in a lot
of ways. So I'm kind of with you. I don't
want anything to do with that dude. But this to me,
(25:53):
if you're going to upgrade a quarterback of all the
realistic options, he gives you the best chance. I mean,
nothing's for certain and obviously, but I think he gives
you the best chance to get better at the most
important spot in sports, and Frankly, I don't understand what
people's issue is. I mean, like, who's the most anti
Donald in geno out guy?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Jackson Bevans? Mean on social MENA. You gotta get him
on the air and just say, like, what's the deal,
what's going on? Because to me, unless I'm just an idiot,
which I am and I'm missing something, which I might be,
this is pretty freaking clearness.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Well get it.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
What I'm looking at.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
All we see all the time quarterback rankings, Right, there's
a billion quarterback rankings. What I haven't seen is quarterback
value rankings. Right, So you take the talent of the quarterback,
you take what he's making, and then you say, okay,
would I trade my quarterback at thirty three million dollars
a year for quarterback X at whatever he's making and
(26:50):
a vast majority I mean throw out the top. Okay,
yes I'm not I'm trading Donald for mahomes Allen, you're.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Saying, like those guys, right.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
You look at the next level, Dak Kyler DeShawn.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
How much is Dak making?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Sixty million? Dak is making He's making sixty sixty millions.
Rather have Sam Darnold and thirty twenty seven million dollars
or Dak Prescott, of.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Course, Sam Kyler, Deshaun Watson, Jordan Love at fifty five
million dollars a year, Tua at fifty two million dollars
a year.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I mean, Mike, God, here's what I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And again, normally I kind of pride myself to be
honest with you. I'm trying to see both sides of
an argument. Every now and then there's one that comes
up where I just don't get it. I don't get
the other side, Like I'm looking at the text line.
I'm sorry, I'm cheating. Two of six. Gino is much
better than Darnald, much much better. Like based on what
(27:50):
what are you talking about over the course of the
last you know, three ish years.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I mean, look, he.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Declined, he declined every single year. He is much older
than Sam Darnald. He would cost you a lot, We'd
cost you another thirty three percent more whatever it is,
and we get happy argument Donald was making. I just
like to know what's the what's the evidence? Like, what
are you talking about? Like, don't just text the show
and say he's better? Why? Why is he better? Because
(28:17):
everything I'm seeing that's not the case at all.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
It literally comes back to the fact that Gino Smith
has done it for more than one a year, and
Sam's Donald don't. That's that's really the argument for everybody
who's anti this move to me, if you just flip
flop the contracts, Let's say Gino gets forty three million
a year.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Okay, because we're talking forty to forty five.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Let's say Gino gets so it's exactly ten million more
than Donald. Now, if you flip flop that, then I'd
be kind of fifty to fifty Donald at forty three,
Gino at thirty three. I'd be like, eh, I might
even lean Gino at thirty three. But if you flip
them back to thirty three Donald forty three Gino, that
is a slam dunk of slam dunks.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You guys are clueless Collins and moron
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