March 13, 2025 • 36 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain, and Jackson Felts discuss changes to the Seahawks roster over the last week, listen and react to sound from Sam Darnold’s introductory press conference today at the VMAC, then listen to some Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
David Sampson from the Nothing Personal podcast, how come the
Mariners did not spend any money? And why does Jerry
Depoto keep fighting with the fans and media. He'll answer
all that for us coming up in the six pm
hour tonight right here on ninety three to three KJRFM.
But you were out there today at the press conference
for our new QB one baby Sam Darnold Sam Donald
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introduced today by Clint Kubiak and Mike McDonald Seahawks officially
also announcing the trades of DK and Geno Smith, the
signings of DeMarcus Lawrence and Mark Quez Veldez Scandling and
can I repeat what you just told me my ear?
By the way, why don't you just tell the audience
what you just heard through your little daley bob over there.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
So John Schneider is doing kind of like just quick
off to the side meeting with the media right now.
And he was asked about DK Metcalf and the exact
words from John Schneider quote, we want guys who want
to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay, So what does that mean? Does that mean that
DK Metcalf just simply put wanted too much money? Does
that mean that DK Metcalf got an ego. Does that
mean that DK Metcalf just had no desire to play
in Seattle any more?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Period?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Does that mean that DK Metcalf only wanted to be
here unless you know Smith was here. Let's translate that guy.
It's one of my favorite games to play. What is
a player, head, coach, or executive really mean what a
guy says we want dudes that want.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
To be here. What do you think he's talking?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I think he was a frustrated at his Seahawk career,
kind of like we were frustrated by his Seahawk career
and wanted to change a senior. That being said, had
John Sutter said, hey, Dk, how.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
About thirty five million dollars a year for the next.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Four years, I think DK probably would have said, you know,
I can handle being disappointed for that type of money
in the next.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Four years, absolutely correct.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mean, why why thirty five Why not just the
same deal the Steelers were giving him, it's thirty million.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I don't know if you would have taken that right
because it did sound like there's a little bit of hey,
I may need to change the scenery from DK Metcalf.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
From the Seahawks perspective from bod dkse perspective.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, okay, I don't know. I don't know if I
believe that or not.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I mean, I'm not saying you're right now I'm wrong,
because who knows right when it's all said and done.
I just think DK Metcalf is not unlike every other
NFL athlete out there, and that includes every guy that
plays for the Seahawks right now, that they're about one thing.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And I don't blame them whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Like I say things like that and people think that
that's like some kind of an insult right to go
on the air and say, well, he just about the money.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's the most violent sport out there outside of the
MMA for crying out loud and maybe getting into a
NASCAR crash. But the lifespan of the NFL players, what
three and a half, four years whatever, it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Is very small.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So I don't blame these guys whatsoever for going after
the biggest bag they can find. And look, I mean,
obviously the trade to Pittsburgh, he had to kind of.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
In some ways sign off on it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm not saying that DK had a no trade clause,
because that's ridiculous because he did not have one, but
he had to agree to re sign in Pittsburgh. Right,
Steelers aren't giving up the draft pick they gave up
for him. They know they can get him back after
the twenty twenty five seasons. So again, I'll just repeat
what I've been saying in the last couple of days.
I don't get why Pittsburgh did this Number one at
this time. They just got back Mason Rudolph, for God's sakes.
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So I mean, I guess it's a fallback option in
case Russell or Aaron Rodgers doesn't work out. But he's
just going after the biggest paycheck he can find, and
he should.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
He's twenty seven, twenty eight years old, is that right?
Hell's dk Metcalf when he's twenty seven years old?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Right, Like this might be the last big contract he
ever signs in the NFL, especially if he gets hurt
by the way. So I don't blame the dude whatsoever.
And I also don't blame the Seahawks for, you know,
saying no. I mean, they've got a lot of other
issues they have to fix, and it's one of the
reasons why I'm a little bit on edge.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
About this. And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Where you are right now, Dick, and where you are, Jackson.
But you get rid of DK Metcalf and you get
rid of Ginosmith. And one of the first things that
people will say is, look at the cap savings. Okay, right,
Look at the money you save between Geno's d and
Sam Darnold's deal. Look at the money you saved on
Tyler Lockett getting let go. Look at the money you
saved on DK Metcalf getting traded. Now we have the
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cap savings, Well, okay, why do you want cap savings
so you can spend the money on positions of need?
So I don't know what the Hawks are planning on doing.
We're going to talk to Brian about this. Nemhauser at
four o'clock. I'm seeing where Garrett Bradberry, who started eighty
eight games at center. He's only twenty nine, by the way,
from Minnesota, former first round draft pick, and they're just
getting rid of him because they just upgraded with Ryan Kelly,
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who's been a fourth time Pro Bowler. If they get
a guy like that, then great, that's what you're looking for.
Because I have no problem with most of this being
handled in the draft, I really don't. I think young,
cheap talent is the way to win in the National
Football League. I think you agree with that, especially at
the quarterback position. But where is it written that you
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can't bring in some proven commodities. Where is it written
that you can't maybe mitigate your risk a little bit
and bringing a guy that knows what he's doing, Garrett Bradberry,
like a Dolman or like a Ryan Kelly Well.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I think what we've seen though, from these Super Bowl
champions and the team the teams are getting the Super Bowl,
they are ready made teams, mostly built from within.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And then when they're.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Ready to compete for a Super Bowl, sure, that's when
they go fill holes with the veteran guys and maybe
spend a little bit extra to do that. And I
don't think the Seahawks are in that position. I think
the Seahawks are still while they're in no way shape
or form are they rebuilding. I still think they're very
much in the position where, hey, we got a ton
of draft draft capital. The draftable guys have never been
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more ready to play in the NFL than they are
right now, except for one position exactly, and that's the
offensive line honestly, Like, that's a problem for a lot
of football teams out there. Man, some of these offenses
that college football teams are running.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I mean, look, I don't know. Next time we have
you on we can ask him about that. But I
remember Tom Cable's saying, these guys are nowhere near ready
to play. They're light years awall, especially the ones that
play in the spread.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yes, in the air, they got no idea what the
hell they're doing, So draft those guys.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I mean, although we got one at Charles Cross has
been fine.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
We did, okay, I mean, he hasn't been awesome, but
he's been fine. And time that's Christian Hayes you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
They don't run the spread, and he was just way
out of his element as we heard so far.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, well look, I mean Charles Cross is an SEC guy,
right obviously, And.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Did he play with Dylan Johnson? I think he may have.
Was he there when he was there like three years ago?
He may have been there. I think he was.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
As a matter of fact, that's not relevant to the conversation.
Was there very must year with my random football knowledge
there for just to split second, But that is the issue.
It's twofold that that issue is one of a myriad
of issues, and then the Seahawks inability to develop these guys, right, Like, Okay,
Charles Cross has been okay, Abe Lucas has been pretty good,
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but there's no stars.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Would you agree with that? On the Seahawk offensive line
right now?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
There's no first team, second team Pro Bowl caliber players
on the offensive line, and you've got to have an anchor.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And I just don't know who that anchor is going
to be.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I don't know either, I mean, frankly. And the thing is,
you could always go pull a Dwayne Brown move where
you trade a draft pick, you have enough draft capital
to bring in a Dwayne Brown. I would just ask
John Schneider, like, you know, yes, you have done, gone
and done the Dwayne Brown thing.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Brown was. I mean, we all thought he was good.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I don't know, great, but he was an anchor, right,
But still like out as Schneider, do you know the
definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over
and expecting different results. So, mister Schneider, if you keep
doing the same thing over and over and think you
can draft guys and piecemeal it together, and you keep
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failing to build a good offensive line. Then why don't
you stop and try something new? I don't know, like
maybe giving a top lineman like Will what Fries or
whatever's last name is. Maybe try spending big on an
offensive lineman because.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You haven't done that yet and you failed so far.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
For your idea though of trading, yes, draft pick, how
about trading to pick for Brad Burry right now? Don't
let him even hit free agents like that. Minnesota wants
a deal. If they don't get a deal done, they're
gonna cut him. But then when they cut him, everybody
gets the shots correct. So you could this guy's cat
hit six million bucks? Oh next year, six million dollars?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Please?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So you were willing to go out and get Connor Williams,
why not give the Vikings a fifth round pick and
say dune done.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
They don't mind that at all. I also don't mind
waiting until draft day.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
And let's say you're on the clock at eighteen, or
let's say you're.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
On the let's see you.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You know you've got a guy that you absolutely want
to have, right, and you're like, I am going to
give up a I'm going to give up a draft pick,
and I don't I don't get this guy in the draft.
So I'm going to give up a draft pick to
get this veteran guard aka Dwayne Brown, like.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You just talked about.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I think that's absolutely fine to wait till draft day
get your rookies, but also pull in a veteran guard
or center to go along with that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's basically your draft class.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Sure well, I just think look at the difference in
like Gardner Minsheet today signed with Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Good for him.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right back in at Mahome, he's going to compete for
the starting spot.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, he's gonna push him.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Imagine if Andy Reid actually said that, hey, what we're
tired of just give him the job to this guy,
you know, you know what Pete.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Carroll and say though, yeah, that's a competition.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
He's gonna push Patrick Mahomes and push him for one.
I got no idea, but you remember when they got
drilled by Tampa Bay in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
The Chiefs did no offensive one.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And then they went out and they rebuilt their offensive
line and they became a juggernaut. Right and Patrick Mahomes,
you get the best of Patrick Mahomes, You want the
best of Sam Donald With time, you got to build
this guy a freaking line. Okay, so step one was
today with the press conference and introducing Sam Donald as
their as their quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
One.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I could not help And this is just a smart
ass in me, man, I could not help. But think
about that quote that Mike McDonald gave Aaron Levine when
he said, you know he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I got something for you.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You really, yea, Because I know this is just kind
of a sm Dick's gonna get mad at me for
being all negative and everything.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
All right, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Do you expect him to be her starting quarterback next year?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Heck yeah, Man, Gino's our quarterback. I don't know, I
don't understand the conversation. It's pretty obvious this guy's a
heck of a quarterback. He's our quarterback.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
We love him.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Several months later, without any further ado introduce Sam Donald
is their new quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I'm sorry, I mean, and again, maybe did you say
that it was McDonald Schneider somebody gave the impression that
he really thought at that point in time that they
were bringing McDonald. When you use the word pivot, when
he said, and I quote like Ross, when when you
when you realize that Gino wasn't coming back and you
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have to pivot. That absolutely tells me that Mike McDonald
was telling the truth in that cut that you just
heard there, that he honestly believed that Gino Smith was
coming back, and then last minute, Gino doesn't want to
stay or there's they don't want to pay him the money.
All of a sudden, the coach is like, oh crap,
we've got to go a different well.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
But don't you think what's the date on that levine?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
By the way, you've any idea you were fifth, I believe, Okay,
so we're talking just like six weeks ago. Don't you
think at that point in time they kind of had
an idea of what Gina was looking for, because Gino
wanted an extension at the beginning of last year, right
we were sitting there in the summer at Jimmy's in
August doing shows, and the word came out that Gino's
camp had asked for an extension. The Seahawks said, no,
we're not doing that yet. We're gonna have to wait. Yeah, okay,
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we all thought that was the right move. That's fine.
So you're telling me that from what was the date
again Jackson February five, February fifth to last week or
two weeks ago or three weeks ago, that whatever Gino's
camp was looking for on that day February fifth changed
dramatically on February ten.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
No, but I think that you have optimism going into negotiations.
He's been with you forever. I think you just have
optimism that you know what, we're gonna get something worked out.
It's it's all gonna be okay, we're gonna get something.
And then when you realize on the eleventh hour, yeah,
we're not gonna get something worked out, then you got
to pivot to Sam darm I.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I'd be curious to ask Colngrin about this and guys
that have spent time with free with with front offices,
because I think those guys know all the time what
they're what their dudes are looking for. There's constant conversations
with those agents and representatives, and I'd be dick again.
I'm not saying you're wrong, because I don't know for certain,
but I'd be very surprised if Mike McDonald and John
Schneider on that day did not know what Gino Smith
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was looking for But I will tell you this that
you're right that what they said today.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
What funny you mentioned that John Schneider again speaking off
off to the side right now.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Was just carry this thing live.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It's just all I see is phones just up at
Schneider's face. We made an offer to Gino, tried to
extend him. It became a parent We weren't going to
be able to get a deal done.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, this is okay, So here's what Here's what I'm
here's what I'm asking And this is the half skeptic,
half conspiracy theorist in me.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Okay, right now, so this is this is well, I
think we have.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
To be You don't want to be totally completely naive, correct, right,
You want to admit that there's obviously a lot of
stuff that we don't know. To be sitting here on
the air and acting like we know every detail of
what happened. Every conversation these guys are always telling the
truth is borderline ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I just hope that we can all agree on that.
But this is now the second guy in the last
fifteen minutes that you have told me Jackson, that John
Schneider says his fault he's blaming DK Metcalf and he's
blaming Geno Smith for neither guy being here.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Okay, but two different reasons.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
One he said and didn't want to be here, the
other said, we couldn't get a deal.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Doesn't matter. He's he's putting it on them.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
He's basically telling the medium fans, we made an offer
to Geno Smith and DK Metcalf didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Want to be here.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Let me give you all this from John Schneider quote.
I thought we could fix it, handle it whatever it was.
At the end of the day, it was a no,
and he wanted to be traded.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
See I think, I think what John Schneider has done
in the past, and I'm glad he brought that up.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
What's he's supposed to say?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
John Schneider's m O and Pete at least with Pete
Carroll here, and maybe it's changed now with Pete gone
has always been to take the high road. Every single time,
it's been to take the high road. You know, we
love him, he was great for us. We wish him well,
we're not going to go there, brother, right, all that stuff.
That's the way they've operated and now and maybe this
is the post Pete era where Schneider feels like you've
ben hold me back, man, I'm tired of lie it right?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, do you think, seriously, is there just a part.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Of John Schneider that got ticked off when his agent
a year ago came to him, who's agent, Gino's agent
with two years left in his contract? Was did that
just not that it burned the bridge? But did that
like the match for the Bridge?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But hasn't there been other players too that have had
their agents come to them with two years on a
deal never gone well, right, well they've never gotten the deal.
But I don't remember it blowing up where the guy
just says, I hate your guts, lose my number.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Well, I mean, and this didn't blow up either, But
I'm just like, was that the catalyst like John Schneider
going all right, man, why are you.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Coming to me?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I also think it's possible that they got a better
offer than what they thought they would get for him
from the Raiders. I don't know we're sitting here saying
how it was kind of you know, the difference in
compensation between what they got for DK and what they
got for Gino Smith in the end was like a
mid to low sixth round draft. That's the difference what
they got from Pittsburgh and what they got from the
Raiders for Gino. Maybe they didn't think they'd get what
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they got for Gino. Maybe they thought they'd have to
cut him and let them walk. Maybe Pete Carroll came
and saved their ass and said, I'll give you a
third rounder.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I'm happy about the compensation with Gino because I was
perfectly satisfied just chopping them.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
From I told you over a break. At the minute.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
After we hit that break last week, you started running.
You ran out of the studio. You are jumping like
a ship about to go to the candy store.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Shacked third round, Victor Jackson said, I.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Feel like that didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Dick ran out and just like so it's just sweat
that not yours get Wait a second, piration.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
They're giving us a third round draft pick to sign
an average quarterback for forty five million dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Never seen you more. I just think Christmas in March.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I think that's possible that they got more than they
thought they were gonna get for him. You know, they
had a hard line offer on the table. I don't
think the Seahawks do much negotiating, to be honest with you,
with players. I mean, look, they might they might budge
a couple of bucks here, a couple of bucks there.
But if there's a significant gap between what a guy's
looking for and what the Hawks are offering, you can
forget it. And I think a lot of us just thought, well,
they're just gonna cut them. They're gonna cut, they're gonna
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eat the dead cap, they're gonna save thirty whatever million dollars,
and they're gonna walk away. And then Pete Carroll and
Mike McDonald and John Schneider shared a plane the Indian
applets bless you. The deal got done justly.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
If they didn't happen to be on that plane together,
they would possibly, Hey, if Pete Carroll went to visit
somebody else in LA and flew from Los Angeles, Gino
Smith still may be a Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
We're gonna hear from Sam Doarnold with time addressing the
media today. Brian Nemhauser Hawk coming up as well on
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Speaker 8 (17:03):
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Speaker 6 (17:16):
Do you expect him to be your starting quarterback next year?
Speaker 9 (17:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Heck yeah, Man, genails our quarterback. I don't know, I
don't understand the conversation. It's pretty obvious this guy's a
heck of a quarterback. He's our quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
We love him.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Several months later, without any further ado, it's introduced Sam
Darnold is our new quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Man, you're killing me. You're killing me. We referenced the
John Schneider quote.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
By the way, on DK metcalf Here's what Schneider told
the media about the DK Metcalfe situation.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh, he was.
Speaker 10 (17:46):
There was discussions, you know, DK, when we're having very
like a lot of personal discussions. I thought we could
fix it, handle it, whatever it was. And at the
end of the day, it was a note and he
wanted to be traded. So we pivoted and he moved forward.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
A lot of pivoted going on by Yeah, there's some
big time pivots. Pivot man, a lot a lot of pivots.
Uh yeah, Well, look, it's a new day. It's a
new dawn. I know that sounds kind of corny. I
was just in there talking to Chris Daniels and he
was asking me about all the level of change, the
rate of change, and I'll just say this, I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I think it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I think it's actually pretty impressive and respectable of John
Schneider and everybody involved, Jody Allen, Bert Cold, Chuck Arnold,
whoever had a hand and making all this happen. When
you sit around and you just realize that, hey, man,
we're pretty good, but we're not going to be elite
with the approach that we're taking right now. And the
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standard you guys tell me if I'm wrong, The standard
for this franchise is still gonna win a title, right,
That is the standard for this franchise. And Gino Smith
good quarterback, DK Metcalf, probably above average good, maybe a
really good wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Lockett's best days behind him.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
But whatever approach they're taken to everything they're doing, it's
resulting in good and not great, and good and not
great is not good enough. And I really love the
fact that John Schneider, let's face it, man, he's putting
his balls on the line.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Here he is.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Because he knows he's next. If this doesn't work, he's
out the door. He's been here for sixteen years now.
He fired a head coach, he fired a quarterback, he
got rid of his is his best wide receiver. He's
putting himself squarely in the line of fire.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
If this thing doesn't work out.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And maybe if John Schneider guys was not part of
that twenty thirteen team. Let's say Schneider's at Green Bay
and they hire him in twenty sixteen and he never
wins a title in Seattle, well he's probably already gone
number one, but number two.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
He may not even be thinking like.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
This right now because he knows what it takes, he
knows what it feels like, and he knows that's the standard.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So is this gonna work?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I mean, and honestly, like who knows, right, nobody's got
a crystal ball. Sam Darnold could be a total bust
and last year could be a total aberration for that guy.
They could continue to have problems rebuilding the offensive line
and they could go, you know, eight and nine next season,
and he could be out the door. But the fact
that he's got the confidence and the guts to actually
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try to blow this thing up to be a lead again.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I love well.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
You asked me in the break who is gonna be
the last man standing between Jerry Depoto and John Schneierz right,
And I said, I think it's going to be Jerry
Depoto simply because the standards are different. Sure, Sure, the
Mariners are very much okay with what the Mariners have
been doing the last four years, right, the Seahawks are
very much not. And guess what I've said this before,
the Mariners and the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I think Jackson disagrees with this, because I remember him
disagreeing the last time.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I think they'd been the same team the last four years,
no playoffs, playoffs, no playoffs, no playoffs, both teams twenty one,
twenty two, twenty three to four, they've been the same team.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And one of them has decided that's good enough, You're
not going to do anything to change it. The other
team is like that, this is not good en.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I think from just a pure results perspective, that's probably fair.
The difference for me with the Mariners give me the
NFL equivalent of having the Mariner's rotation.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh, the number one defense in the.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Number one defense in the NFL. So imagine if the
number one defense in the NFL for three years in
a row went to the playoffs one time and lost
in the first round.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, you'd be pissed. Of course, you'd think of that
as a colossal waste of talent.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
So that's the difference for me, is that I am
way more frustrated with the Mariners because of the talent
they've got.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I mean, we did this conversation. They've got, they got
more talent they.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Got they got maybe five or the top thirty pitchers
in baseball, though most of the Seattle would probably disagree,
like all the way better than no, they're not. Well, look,
there's one thing that Jerry Depoto is right about when
it comes to that particular conversation about the talent between
the Mariners and the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
There's perception and there's reality. There is the reality of
our offense, and then the perception.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
The reality is that they're better. The perception is that
they stink. Exactly, I'm talking about the entire team, not
just the offense. So I mean I am way more
irritated and annoyed by the Mariners than I am the Seahawks.
I agree, because they've got it again. If you're telling
me that the Marin rotation is the number one defense
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in the NFL, or maybe like top two or three,
that the worst defense in the NFL, I mean that
just got I'm all pissed off all over again. I
was ready to move on and talk about Sam Darnold.
Now I'm all irritated again. But I think that's where
we expect the Seahawks to be right right right.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I mean we expect the Seahawks to have a top
five defense in the NFL this year.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I would be if.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Everybody stays healthy and they add a piece or two
with the draft, the guys that can play.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I would be surprised if the.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Seahawks weren't top five in scoring defense this year, because
they were two in the second have a last season.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Well here's what I think, man.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think, even with the moves they've made on defense,
getting where re signing Leonard Williams, re signing Ernest Jones,
drafting Devin Witherspoon, you know, Byron Murphy blah blah blah,
your guy to Marcus Lawnce, Marcus Lawrence, I still think
who I'm very excited about by the way. I went
home and watch some tape and I'm very happy he's here.
I still think the star of this football team is
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Mike McDonald.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
He's the star.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
He's the guy that's going to make that defense role, right,
because they still don't have a bunch of all pros
on the defense, right, they just don't. Maybe Byer Murphy
is that guy next year. But was Witherspoon the one
Pro bowler? Is that right on the defensive side of
the ball.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
That's it? Correct? Leonard Williams Letter Williams, did he make
the Pro Bowl the end? He did?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He's an alternate though as a ruse. Don't tell Hugh
he's an alternate. That's going to be a problem. But
Leonard Williams deserves it. Wasn't like a Russell Wilson. But
this isn't like even like the eighty five Seahawks or
the two thout right, that is not eight Yeah, there's
not six or seven guys. The star of this team
I still think is gonna be Mike McDonald because they're
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gonna be led by their defense again next year. Sam
Donald QB one though, did speak today at the press conference.
Uh why don't we go with because I think we're
all kind of curious about what happened with Clint Kubiak
they were together in San Francisco. And why Sam Donald
that's number four, by the way, Jackson. Why Sam Donald
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thinks he can be successful to get in Seattle playing
for Clint Kobyac as his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Working with Clint a little bit in San Francisco, very
familiar with the scheme, ran some very very similar concepts
last year in Minnesota as well, and uh yeah, just
you know, even getting to talk to Clint a little bit,
you know, on Wednesday, Just being very very excited just
about this opportunity and just to just to be able
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to collaborate, I think is the biggest thing. Like, you know,
there's verytions of the same system that kind of go
around the NFL, and being in one of those last
year and kind of getting to morph a little bit
of that with obviously most of the stuff that that
you know, we did in San Francisco, and then I
know he grew on his system a little bit last
year in New Orleans. So again, just just very I
(25:17):
know I keep using this word, but very excited to
to just get rolling on on kind of what this system,
what the offense is gonna.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Look like next year.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Maybe Clint could talk a little bit more about that
in detail, but I know it. Foundation is the run
game and we're gonna We're gonna run the rock. I
know Clint's big on running the rock, and you got
to do that and building that off of play action
keepers and dropping back when you.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Have to, let me ask you a question because you
were there right when Sam Darnold said We're gonna run
the rock?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Did your pants slide off? Well?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Had I been listening at home and not surrounded by
like a hundred people, you would have taken them would
have all been off. I would have been running around
in my skivvies yelling and screaming, oh God. But instead
I was there and I just kind of did a
little fist punts, just a little fist pump.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
It's gonna be his best friend, right, Sam Barnold's best friend.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Is we have finally gotten back to where running the
ball is cool in the NFL again.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It is so awesome.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
All these winning teams Baltimore and Philadelphia and Detroit and
all these teams making it a long way. They're just
running the rock, they're running, play action, they're playing It's
just fabulous.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We have that time of football. You know why it's
cool because they can do it. Because the Eagles have
the best offensive line in the NFL. Because the Eagles
can run the push push and nobody else can't. Because
the Baltimore Ravens have a quarterback and Lamar Jackson who
runs for eight hundred yards a year.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Offensive line and a.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Bad offensive line might help you run more than it
does pass, because a poorest pass offensive line is a disaster.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well, I don't think the Hawks were any good at
either of them last year, and they just need to
get better. So, hey, look you want to be that team.
I'm fine with that. Go give me the personnel to
do that. Then I saw running game right now. They
don't have that. They don't have that to do that consistently.
We're gonna break a little fun with audio slash. Hey
did you hear that? Next on ninety three three KJRFM, it's.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Now time for Softy in Dick's Fun with Audio. Jimmy
g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have some
fun with audio.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
All right.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Here we go in a busy Thursday, right here on
ninety three three kjr FM. Deck and how are you?
Three two and one? All right, Welcome back in a
busy Thursday. Right here on ninety three three KJRFM. Softeed
Dick Jackson with you until seven o'clock today, right here
on ninety three three KJRFM. It's time for a little
fun with audio slash. Hey did you hear that?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Here we go? Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Dick Bill's quarterback Josh Allen was asked during a press
conference today why he did not look to break Dak
Prescott's record sixty million dollars per year deal with this
new extension that the Bills gave him earlier this week.
Speaker 11 (28:04):
It didn't seem like to my perspective, I was taking
a whole lot less. But when the way that I
make sense of it, when when you start getting these
fairly big numbers throughout the entire league, you know, it's
weird to say this, but what's what's five more going
to do for my life that I can't already do
right now?
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Right?
Speaker 11 (28:23):
So, like it, it's not that crazy to me, right, Like,
I live a pretty good life, got a house, got
a car. We're good. I wasn't looking to absolutely kill
them in every every chance that I could. And I
told my agent that I was like, hey, if this
this has any impact on the pack or impact on
the cap, I should say, let's figure out a way
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to not do that. So again, we were both sides
were willing to move and change different things, and it
was a pretty pretty calm mannered and negotiation is what
I can what I can say, at least what I
can hear on both sides.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, first of all, so it's ten percent less than
what Dak was getting. So imagine your salary and take
ten percent off. If that would bother you, I think
it would bother you. But obviously when you're making more
money the less, you know whatever. I love that he
said it. I think it's great pr by him. He's
stealing a page from the Brady Playbook a little bit
right and saying, hey, look, if the extra five million
bucks gets me a center or a guard or whatever,
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then then go for it. I mean, he might be
speaking like a kid from Wyoming. I have no idea, right,
but I think it's incredible pr by him.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Buffalo Bill fans thought of Josh Allen two days ago
after hearing that, they love him even more probably worth
That's how you handle it, man, I mean, that's just
perfectly said by him. And you know what, Look, you
can make an argument financially, Hey, five million bucks if
you invest a property could be thirty million dollars in
how many ever years from now?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And keep minding he's dating Hailey Steinfeld, astro accomplished actress
who makes millions in her own room.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yes so, but that is the way that you become
a part of the fabric of a community by saying
things like that.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Which is why I never understand herring. Why did Russell
Wilson not do that?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Right?
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Right?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
He was dating a millionaire two right, married do a
multi millionaire?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Why did he do that?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
And instead he's just become a vagabond of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I thought you're gonna say something else, Ali, God, either
A he doesn't get it, B doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
She has you know, bad people, you know offering him advice. Right.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I mean, look, I mean there's not many guys that
have done that, right, Brady's and Alan. I mean, I'm
just thinking about guys that took less money that the
list of guys that do that and make it public
is not a very big one.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Well, the right reason for that.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
There will be more because these contracts are now generational
worth where they were never generational worth until like fifteen
years ago.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well, I think it's great, good for him, good for Buffalo,
smart thing to say, and just want himself a new
fan man for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yesterday on the NFL Network, Peter Schrager sharing his thoughts
on who Cooper Cupp should sign with after being let
go by the Rams.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I'd like to see him go to Seattle.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
He is a Washington state guy, and Seattle just said
goodbye to two really good wide receivers in DK.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Metcalf and Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
And you insert Cooper Cupp, who went to Eastern Washington,
is from the state of Washington and is in the
division with the Rams. And Bobby Wagner did the same
thing in the reverse. When the Seahawks were like, we're
done with Bobby Wagner, the Rams signed him and he's like,
I cannot wait to play Seattle and beat them twice
a year.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
This is going to be the opposite that.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
I just feel like Sam Darnold is going there with
Jackson Smith and Jigma, and we've got who Jake Bobo
was the number two guy. All due respect to Jake Bobo, like,
Cooper Cup's a huge upgrade from that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Well, now it's going to be Marcuz Veldez Scanling is
going to be among the top three for now, and
who knows, by the time it saw said and done,
he may not even be top three. I mean, I'm
totally cool with Cooper Cupp coming here. And here's why.
The injuries as a bit of a concern. He's missed
an entire season the last three years. But when he plays,
he's very productive.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
The guy had one hundred targets and eleven starts last year.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
One hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Now, that's not gonna happen in Seattle, especially if they
run the ball the way he can't.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Don't get that in forty two stars.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
But he had sixty seven catches in twelve games a
year ago. That's a ninety five catch pace thousand yard
season for Cooper Cup. This would be a totally different
production wise receiver versus Marquez Valdez skal get him, sign him.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's incentive.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Rayden contract, have a have a catches, have a yards,
have a touchdown incentive to make it.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Really easy like Gino's was, by the way, No, not
that easy. She's Louise Ginos.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Gino os Ryan Grubb a lot for those incentives. He's
like Ryan Grubb tried to get Gino those incentives.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I will give you this. Adam Schefter was on Kevin
Shockey's station today down in Denver altitude right yeah, and
he said that. Schefter said that he thinks that Cooper
Cup wants to be with the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
That's interesting. All right, Let's do one more time for
one more Is that cool with you?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Hey, Dick? Did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Kansas State's basketball season came to an end last night
with the lost of Baylor in the Big Twelve Tournament.
Last year, Illinois transfer Coleman Hawkins joined Kansas State for
a reported two million dollars anil deal, but after Coleman
scored five points in their season ending loss on Wednesday,
the four broke down when talking about backlash he has received.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
These guys haven't experienced some of the days have experienced.
I really wanted to come in and packed the program.
I'm sorry for crying. I really wanted to come in
and packed the program. Yeah, fight, I let a lot
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of people.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Now I feel like I did a poor job.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
I've letting people talk about me, fake my play.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And all year.
Speaker 9 (34:03):
Just go back and black out everything, not for myself
but for the to you. So we had a more
successful year.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, we knew this would happen the college basketball players,
football players making money, that it would come with some
criticism and they'd be expected to perform, and there'd be
pressure like pro athletes. And a twenty two year old
kid is not ready to become a pro athlete. That's
why they're twenty two year old kids playing college basketball.
So this was one of the concerns. Part of it.
There's a part of me, honestly that wants to say
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crimea river like member of the movie Jerry Maguire when
the guy came on the Roy Firestone Show.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You know the pro shirt of fifty five million dollars,
Remember that guy.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yes, it's like, dude, I mean, this is what you
guys all wanted, right, you all wanted this chance to
make money and to be paid and compensated like professionals. Well,
and you know what, I'm not even saying that the
criticism is warranted or justified. The name calling, the crap
these guys get on social media, that's not in the
pros either, but the pressure to perform that comes along
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with making that kind of money, I don't think a
lot of these kids are ready for it, Dick.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
And you might see more of.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
That as an age old critic of the transfer portal
and as a guy that only supported NIL when you
actually was a tit for tat quid pro quote. I'm
going to do something for this company and they are
going to pay.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Me for it.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
That is the only NIL I approved of. I would
just say this to Coleman Hawkins, tough.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, tough. A lot of people agree with him.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Got two million dollars man, right, And the human side
of me says, Okay, feel sorry for this twenty two
year old kid crying on national radio or national TV.
But the pragmatic, the pragmatic nature in me is says,
you know what, you get what you deserve. You got
your two million dollars, you get all the crap that
comes with.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
UH three fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Brian Nemhauser, Hawk Blogger was there for John Schneider's press conference.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
What did he learn? What does he think think next?
On ninety three three k j RFM
Where we go?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
David Sampson from the Nothing Personal podcast, how come the
Mariners did not spend any money? And why does Jerry
Depoto keep fighting with the fans and media. He'll answer
all that for us coming up in the six pm
hour tonight right here on ninety three to three KJRFM.
But you were out there today at the press conference
for our new QB one baby Sam Darnold Sam Donald
(00:24):
introduced today by Clint Kubiak and Mike McDonald Seahawks officially
also announcing the trades of DK and Geno Smith, the
signings of DeMarcus Lawrence and Mark Quez Veldez Scandling and
can I repeat what you just told me my ear?
By the way, why don't you just tell the audience
what you just heard through your little daley bob over there.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
So John Schneider is doing kind of like just quick
off to the side meeting with the media right now.
And he was asked about DK Metcalf and the exact
words from John Schneider quote, we want guys who want
to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay, So what does that mean? Does that mean that
DK Metcalf just simply put wanted too much money? Does
that mean that DK Metcalf got an ego. Does that
mean that DK Metcalf just had no desire to play
in Seattle any more?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Period?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Does that mean that DK Metcalf only wanted to be
here unless you know Smith was here. Let's translate that guy.
It's one of my favorite games to play. What is
a player, head, coach, or executive really mean what a
guy says we want dudes that want.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
To be here. What do you think he's talking?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I think he was a frustrated at his Seahawk career,
kind of like we were frustrated by his Seahawk career
and wanted to change a senior. That being said, had
John Sutter said, hey, Dk, how.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
About thirty five million dollars a year for the next.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Four years, I think DK probably would have said, you know,
I can handle being disappointed for that type of money
in the next.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Four years, absolutely correct.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mean, why why thirty five Why not just the
same deal the Steelers were giving him, it's thirty million.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I don't know if you would have taken that right
because it did sound like there's a little bit of hey,
I may need to change the scenery from DK Metcalf.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
From the Seahawks perspective from bod dkse perspective.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, okay, I don't know. I don't know if I
believe that or not.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I mean, I'm not saying you're right now I'm wrong,
because who knows right when it's all said and done.
I just think DK Metcalf is not unlike every other
NFL athlete out there, and that includes every guy that
plays for the Seahawks right now, that they're about one thing.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And I don't blame them whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Like I say things like that and people think that
that's like some kind of an insult right to go
on the air and say, well, he just about the money.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's the most violent sport out there outside of the
MMA for crying out loud and maybe getting into a
NASCAR crash. But the lifespan of the NFL players, what
three and a half, four years whatever, it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Is very small.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So I don't blame these guys whatsoever for going after
the biggest bag they can find. And look, I mean,
obviously the trade to Pittsburgh, he had to kind of.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
In some ways sign off on it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm not saying that DK had a no trade clause,
because that's ridiculous because he did not have one, but
he had to agree to re sign in Pittsburgh. Right,
Steelers aren't giving up the draft pick they gave up
for him. They know they can get him back after
the twenty twenty five seasons. So again, I'll just repeat
what I've been saying in the last couple of days.
I don't get why Pittsburgh did this Number one at
this time. They just got back Mason Rudolph, for God's sakes.
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So I mean, I guess it's a fallback option in
case Russell or Aaron Rodgers doesn't work out. But he's
just going after the biggest paycheck he can find, and
he should.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
He's twenty seven, twenty eight years old, is that right?
Hell's dk Metcalf when he's twenty seven years old?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Right, Like this might be the last big contract he
ever signs in the NFL, especially if he gets hurt
by the way. So I don't blame the dude whatsoever.
And I also don't blame the Seahawks for, you know,
saying no. I mean, they've got a lot of other
issues they have to fix, and it's one of the
reasons why I'm a little bit on edge.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
About this. And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Where you are right now, Dick, and where you are, Jackson.
But you get rid of DK Metcalf and you get
rid of Ginosmith. And one of the first things that
people will say is, look at the cap savings. Okay, right,
Look at the money you save between Geno's d and
Sam Darnold's deal. Look at the money you saved on
Tyler Lockett getting let go. Look at the money you
saved on DK Metcalf getting traded. Now we have the
(04:07):
cap savings, Well, okay, why do you want cap savings
so you can spend the money on positions of need?
So I don't know what the Hawks are planning on doing.
We're going to talk to Brian about this. Nemhauser at
four o'clock. I'm seeing where Garrett Bradberry, who started eighty
eight games at center. He's only twenty nine, by the way,
from Minnesota, former first round draft pick, and they're just
getting rid of him because they just upgraded with Ryan Kelly,
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who's been a fourth time Pro Bowler. If they get
a guy like that, then great, that's what you're looking for.
Because I have no problem with most of this being
handled in the draft, I really don't. I think young,
cheap talent is the way to win in the National
Football League. I think you agree with that, especially at
the quarterback position. But where is it written that you
(04:50):
can't bring in some proven commodities. Where is it written
that you can't maybe mitigate your risk a little bit
and bringing a guy that knows what he's doing, Garrett Bradberry,
like a Dolman or like a Ryan Kelly Well.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I think what we've seen though, from these Super Bowl
champions and the team the teams are getting the Super Bowl,
they are ready made teams, mostly built from within.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And then when they're.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Ready to compete for a Super Bowl, sure, that's when
they go fill holes with the veteran guys and maybe
spend a little bit extra to do that. And I
don't think the Seahawks are in that position. I think
the Seahawks are still while they're in no way shape
or form are they rebuilding. I still think they're very
much in the position where, hey, we got a ton
of draft draft capital. The draftable guys have never been
(05:35):
more ready to play in the NFL than they are
right now, except for one position exactly, and that's the
offensive line honestly, Like, that's a problem for a lot
of football teams out there. Man, some of these offenses
that college football teams are running.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I mean, look, I don't know. Next time we have
you on we can ask him about that. But I
remember Tom Cable's saying, these guys are nowhere near ready
to play. They're light years awall, especially the ones that
play in the spread.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yes, in the air, they got no idea what the
hell they're doing, So draft those guys.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I mean, although we got one at Charles Cross has
been fine.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
We did, okay, I mean, he hasn't been awesome, but
he's been fine. And time that's Christian Hayes you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
They don't run the spread, and he was just way
out of his element as we heard so far.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, well look, I mean Charles Cross is an SEC guy,
right obviously, And.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Did he play with Dylan Johnson? I think he may have.
Was he there when he was there like three years ago?
He may have been there. I think he was.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
As a matter of fact, that's not relevant to the conversation.
Was there very must year with my random football knowledge
there for just to split second, But that is the issue.
It's twofold that that issue is one of a myriad
of issues, and then the Seahawks inability to develop these guys, right, Like, Okay,
Charles Cross has been okay, Abe Lucas has been pretty good,
(06:49):
but there's no stars.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Would you agree with that? On the Seahawk offensive line
right now?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
There's no first team, second team Pro Bowl caliber players
on the offensive line, and you've got to have an anchor.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And I just don't know who that anchor is going
to be.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I don't know either, I mean, frankly. And the thing is,
you could always go pull a Dwayne Brown move where
you trade a draft pick, you have enough draft capital
to bring in a Dwayne Brown. I would just ask
John Schneider, like, you know, yes, you have done, gone
and done the Dwayne Brown thing.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Brown was. I mean, we all thought he was good.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I don't know, great, but he was an anchor, right,
But still like out as Schneider, do you know the
definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over
and expecting different results. So, mister Schneider, if you keep
doing the same thing over and over and think you
can draft guys and piecemeal it together, and you keep
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failing to build a good offensive line. Then why don't
you stop and try something new? I don't know, like
maybe giving a top lineman like Will what Fries or
whatever's last name is. Maybe try spending big on an
offensive lineman because.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You haven't done that yet and you failed so far.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
For your idea though of trading, yes, draft pick, how
about trading to pick for Brad Burry right now? Don't
let him even hit free agents like that. Minnesota wants
a deal. If they don't get a deal done, they're
gonna cut him. But then when they cut him, everybody
gets the shots correct. So you could this guy's cat
hit six million bucks? Oh next year, six million dollars?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Please?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So you were willing to go out and get Connor Williams,
why not give the Vikings a fifth round pick and
say dune done.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
They don't mind that at all. I also don't mind
waiting until draft day.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
And let's say you're on the clock at eighteen, or
let's say you're.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
On the let's see you.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You know you've got a guy that you absolutely want
to have, right, and you're like, I am going to
give up a I'm going to give up a draft pick,
and I don't I don't get this guy in the draft.
So I'm going to give up a draft pick to
get this veteran guard aka Dwayne Brown, like.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You just talked about.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I think that's absolutely fine to wait till draft day
get your rookies, but also pull in a veteran guard
or center to go along with that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's basically your draft class.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Sure well, I just think look at the difference in
like Gardner Minsheet today signed with Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Good for him.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right back in at Mahome, he's going to compete for
the starting spot.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, he's gonna push him.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Imagine if Andy Reid actually said that, hey, what we're
tired of just give him the job to this guy,
you know, you know what Pete.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Carroll and say though, yeah, that's a competition.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
He's gonna push Patrick Mahomes and push him for one.
I got no idea, but you remember when they got
drilled by Tampa Bay in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
The Chiefs did no offensive one.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And then they went out and they rebuilt their offensive
line and they became a juggernaut. Right and Patrick Mahomes,
you get the best of Patrick Mahomes, You want the
best of Sam Donald With time, you got to build
this guy a freaking line. Okay, so step one was
today with the press conference and introducing Sam Donald as
their as their quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
One.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I could not help And this is just a smart
ass in me, man, I could not help. But think
about that quote that Mike McDonald gave Aaron Levine when
he said, you know he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I got something for you.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You really, yea, Because I know this is just kind
of a sm Dick's gonna get mad at me for
being all negative and everything.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
All right, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Do you expect him to be her starting quarterback next year?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Heck yeah, Man, Gino's our quarterback. I don't know, I
don't understand the conversation. It's pretty obvious this guy's a
heck of a quarterback. He's our quarterback.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
We love him.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Several months later, without any further ado introduce Sam Donald
is their new quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I'm sorry, I mean, and again, maybe did you say
that it was McDonald Schneider somebody gave the impression that
he really thought at that point in time that they
were bringing McDonald. When you use the word pivot, when
he said, and I quote like Ross, when when you
when you realize that Gino wasn't coming back and you
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have to pivot. That absolutely tells me that Mike McDonald
was telling the truth in that cut that you just
heard there, that he honestly believed that Gino Smith was
coming back, and then last minute, Gino doesn't want to
stay or there's they don't want to pay him the money.
All of a sudden, the coach is like, oh crap,
we've got to go a different well.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
But don't you think what's the date on that levine?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
By the way, you've any idea you were fifth, I believe, Okay,
so we're talking just like six weeks ago. Don't you
think at that point in time they kind of had
an idea of what Gina was looking for, because Gino
wanted an extension at the beginning of last year, right
we were sitting there in the summer at Jimmy's in
August doing shows, and the word came out that Gino's
camp had asked for an extension. The Seahawks said, no,
we're not doing that yet. We're gonna have to wait. Yeah, okay,
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we all thought that was the right move. That's fine.
So you're telling me that from what was the date
again Jackson February five, February fifth to last week or
two weeks ago or three weeks ago, that whatever Gino's
camp was looking for on that day February fifth changed
dramatically on February ten.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
No, but I think that you have optimism going into negotiations.
He's been with you forever. I think you just have
optimism that you know what, we're gonna get something worked out.
It's it's all gonna be okay, we're gonna get something.
And then when you realize on the eleventh hour, yeah,
we're not gonna get something worked out, then you got
to pivot to Sam darm I.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I'd be curious to ask Colngrin about this and guys
that have spent time with free with with front offices,
because I think those guys know all the time what
they're what their dudes are looking for. There's constant conversations
with those agents and representatives, and I'd be dick again.
I'm not saying you're wrong, because I don't know for certain,
but I'd be very surprised if Mike McDonald and John
Schneider on that day did not know what Gino Smith
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was looking for But I will tell you this that
you're right that what they said today.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
What funny you mentioned that John Schneider again speaking off
off to the side right now.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Was just carry this thing live.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It's just all I see is phones just up at
Schneider's face. We made an offer to Gino, tried to
extend him. It became a parent We weren't going to
be able to get a deal done.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, this is okay, So here's what Here's what I'm
here's what I'm asking And this is the half skeptic,
half conspiracy theorist in me.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Okay, right now, so this is this is well, I
think we have.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
To be You don't want to be totally completely naive, correct, right,
You want to admit that there's obviously a lot of
stuff that we don't know. To be sitting here on
the air and acting like we know every detail of
what happened. Every conversation these guys are always telling the
truth is borderline ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I just hope that we can all agree on that.
But this is now the second guy in the last
fifteen minutes that you have told me Jackson, that John
Schneider says his fault he's blaming DK Metcalf and he's
blaming Geno Smith for neither guy being here.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Okay, but two different reasons.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
One he said and didn't want to be here, the
other said, we couldn't get a deal.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Doesn't matter. He's he's putting it on them.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
He's basically telling the medium fans, we made an offer
to Geno Smith and DK Metcalf didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Want to be here.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Let me give you all this from John Schneider quote.
I thought we could fix it, handle it whatever it was.
At the end of the day, it was a no,
and he wanted to be traded.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
See I think, I think what John Schneider has done
in the past, and I'm glad he brought that up.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
What's he's supposed to say?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
John Schneider's m O and Pete at least with Pete
Carroll here, and maybe it's changed now with Pete gone
has always been to take the high road. Every single time,
it's been to take the high road. You know, we
love him, he was great for us. We wish him well,
we're not going to go there, brother, right, all that stuff.
That's the way they've operated and now and maybe this
is the post Pete era where Schneider feels like you've
ben hold me back, man, I'm tired of lie it right?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, do you think, seriously, is there just a part.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Of John Schneider that got ticked off when his agent
a year ago came to him, who's agent, Gino's agent
with two years left in his contract? Was did that
just not that it burned the bridge? But did that
like the match for the Bridge?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But hasn't there been other players too that have had
their agents come to them with two years on a
deal never gone well, right, well they've never gotten the deal.
But I don't remember it blowing up where the guy
just says, I hate your guts, lose my number.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Well, I mean, and this didn't blow up either, But
I'm just like, was that the catalyst like John Schneider
going all right, man, why are you.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Coming to me?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I also think it's possible that they got a better
offer than what they thought they would get for him
from the Raiders. I don't know we're sitting here saying
how it was kind of you know, the difference in
compensation between what they got for DK and what they
got for Gino Smith in the end was like a
mid to low sixth round draft. That's the difference what
they got from Pittsburgh and what they got from the
Raiders for Gino. Maybe they didn't think they'd get what
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they got for Gino. Maybe they thought they'd have to
cut him and let them walk. Maybe Pete Carroll came
and saved their ass and said, I'll give you a
third rounder.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I'm happy about the compensation with Gino because I was
perfectly satisfied just chopping them.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
From I told you over a break. At the minute.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
After we hit that break last week, you started running.
You ran out of the studio. You are jumping like
a ship about to go to the candy store.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Shacked third round, Victor Jackson said, I.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Feel like that didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Dick ran out and just like so it's just sweat
that not yours get Wait a second, piration.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
They're giving us a third round draft pick to sign
an average quarterback for forty five million dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Never seen you more. I just think Christmas in March.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I think that's possible that they got more than they
thought they were gonna get for him. You know, they
had a hard line offer on the table. I don't
think the Seahawks do much negotiating, to be honest with you,
with players. I mean, look, they might they might budge
a couple of bucks here, a couple of bucks there.
But if there's a significant gap between what a guy's
looking for and what the Hawks are offering, you can
forget it. And I think a lot of us just thought, well,
they're just gonna cut them. They're gonna cut, they're gonna
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eat the dead cap, they're gonna save thirty whatever million dollars,
and they're gonna walk away. And then Pete Carroll and
Mike McDonald and John Schneider shared a plane the Indian
applets bless you. The deal got done justly.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
If they didn't happen to be on that plane together,
they would possibly, Hey, if Pete Carroll went to visit
somebody else in LA and flew from Los Angeles, Gino
Smith still may be a Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
We're gonna hear from Sam Doarnold with time addressing the
media today. Brian Nemhauser Hawk coming up as well on
ninety three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on Your Home for
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three KJR FM.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Do you expect him to be your starting quarterback next year?
Speaker 9 (17:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Heck yeah, Man, genails our quarterback. I don't know, I
don't understand the conversation. It's pretty obvious this guy's a
heck of a quarterback. He's our quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
We love him.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Several months later, without any further ado, it's introduced Sam
Darnold is our new quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Man, you're killing me. You're killing me. We referenced the
John Schneider quote.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
By the way, on DK metcalf Here's what Schneider told
the media about the DK Metcalfe situation.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh, he was.
Speaker 10 (17:46):
There was discussions, you know, DK, when we're having very
like a lot of personal discussions. I thought we could
fix it, handle it, whatever it was. And at the
end of the day, it was a note and he
wanted to be traded. So we pivoted and he moved forward.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
A lot of pivoted going on by Yeah, there's some
big time pivots. Pivot man, a lot a lot of pivots.
Uh yeah, Well, look, it's a new day. It's a
new dawn. I know that sounds kind of corny. I
was just in there talking to Chris Daniels and he
was asking me about all the level of change, the
rate of change, and I'll just say this, I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I think it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I think it's actually pretty impressive and respectable of John
Schneider and everybody involved, Jody Allen, Bert Cold, Chuck Arnold,
whoever had a hand and making all this happen. When
you sit around and you just realize that, hey, man,
we're pretty good, but we're not going to be elite
with the approach that we're taking right now. And the
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standard you guys tell me if I'm wrong, The standard
for this franchise is still gonna win a title, right,
That is the standard for this franchise. And Gino Smith
good quarterback, DK Metcalf, probably above average good, maybe a
really good wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Lockett's best days behind him.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
But whatever approach they're taken to everything they're doing, it's
resulting in good and not great, and good and not
great is not good enough. And I really love the
fact that John Schneider, let's face it, man, he's putting
his balls on the line.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Here he is.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Because he knows he's next. If this doesn't work, he's
out the door. He's been here for sixteen years now.
He fired a head coach, he fired a quarterback, he
got rid of his is his best wide receiver. He's
putting himself squarely in the line of fire.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
If this thing doesn't work out.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And maybe if John Schneider guys was not part of
that twenty thirteen team. Let's say Schneider's at Green Bay
and they hire him in twenty sixteen and he never
wins a title in Seattle, well he's probably already gone
number one, but number two.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
He may not even be thinking like.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
This right now because he knows what it takes, he
knows what it feels like, and he knows that's the standard.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So is this gonna work?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I mean, and honestly, like who knows, right, nobody's got
a crystal ball. Sam Darnold could be a total bust
and last year could be a total aberration for that guy.
They could continue to have problems rebuilding the offensive line
and they could go, you know, eight and nine next season,
and he could be out the door. But the fact
that he's got the confidence and the guts to actually
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try to blow this thing up to be a lead again.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I love well.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
You asked me in the break who is gonna be
the last man standing between Jerry Depoto and John Schneierz right,
And I said, I think it's going to be Jerry
Depoto simply because the standards are different. Sure, Sure, the
Mariners are very much okay with what the Mariners have
been doing the last four years, right, the Seahawks are
very much not. And guess what I've said this before,
the Mariners and the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I think Jackson disagrees with this, because I remember him
disagreeing the last time.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I think they'd been the same team the last four years,
no playoffs, playoffs, no playoffs, no playoffs, both teams twenty one,
twenty two, twenty three to four, they've been the same team.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And one of them has decided that's good enough, You're
not going to do anything to change it. The other
team is like that, this is not good en.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I think from just a pure results perspective, that's probably fair.
The difference for me with the Mariners give me the
NFL equivalent of having the Mariner's rotation.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh, the number one defense in the.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Number one defense in the NFL. So imagine if the
number one defense in the NFL for three years in
a row went to the playoffs one time and lost
in the first round.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, you'd be pissed. Of course, you'd think of that
as a colossal waste of talent.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
So that's the difference for me, is that I am
way more frustrated with the Mariners because of the talent
they've got.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I mean, we did this conversation. They've got, they got
more talent they.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Got they got maybe five or the top thirty pitchers
in baseball, though most of the Seattle would probably disagree,
like all the way better than no, they're not. Well, look,
there's one thing that Jerry Depoto is right about when
it comes to that particular conversation about the talent between
the Mariners and the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
There's perception and there's reality. There is the reality of
our offense, and then the perception.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
The reality is that they're better. The perception is that
they stink. Exactly, I'm talking about the entire team, not
just the offense. So I mean I am way more
irritated and annoyed by the Mariners than I am the Seahawks.
I agree, because they've got it again. If you're telling
me that the Marin rotation is the number one defense
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in the NFL, or maybe like top two or three,
that the worst defense in the NFL, I mean that
just got I'm all pissed off all over again. I
was ready to move on and talk about Sam Darnold.
Now I'm all irritated again. But I think that's where
we expect the Seahawks to be right right right.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I mean we expect the Seahawks to have a top
five defense in the NFL this year.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I would be if.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Everybody stays healthy and they add a piece or two
with the draft, the guys that can play.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I would be surprised if the.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Seahawks weren't top five in scoring defense this year, because
they were two in the second have a last season.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Well here's what I think, man.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think, even with the moves they've made on defense,
getting where re signing Leonard Williams, re signing Ernest Jones,
drafting Devin Witherspoon, you know, Byron Murphy blah blah blah,
your guy to Marcus Lawnce, Marcus Lawrence, I still think
who I'm very excited about by the way. I went
home and watch some tape and I'm very happy he's here.
I still think the star of this football team is
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Mike McDonald.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
He's the star.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
He's the guy that's going to make that defense role, right,
because they still don't have a bunch of all pros
on the defense, right, they just don't. Maybe Byer Murphy
is that guy next year. But was Witherspoon the one
Pro bowler? Is that right on the defensive side of
the ball.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
That's it? Correct? Leonard Williams Letter Williams, did he make
the Pro Bowl the end? He did?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He's an alternate though as a ruse. Don't tell Hugh
he's an alternate. That's going to be a problem. But
Leonard Williams deserves it. Wasn't like a Russell Wilson. But
this isn't like even like the eighty five Seahawks or
the two thout right, that is not eight Yeah, there's
not six or seven guys. The star of this team
I still think is gonna be Mike McDonald because they're
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gonna be led by their defense again next year. Sam
Donald QB one though, did speak today at the press conference.
Uh why don't we go with because I think we're
all kind of curious about what happened with Clint Kubiak
they were together in San Francisco. And why Sam Donald
that's number four, by the way, Jackson. Why Sam Donald
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thinks he can be successful to get in Seattle playing
for Clint Kobyac as his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Working with Clint a little bit in San Francisco, very
familiar with the scheme, ran some very very similar concepts
last year in Minnesota as well, and uh yeah, just
you know, even getting to talk to Clint a little bit,
you know, on Wednesday, Just being very very excited just
about this opportunity and just to just to be able
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to collaborate, I think is the biggest thing. Like, you know,
there's verytions of the same system that kind of go
around the NFL, and being in one of those last
year and kind of getting to morph a little bit
of that with obviously most of the stuff that that
you know, we did in San Francisco, and then I
know he grew on his system a little bit last
year in New Orleans. So again, just just very I
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know I keep using this word, but very excited to
to just get rolling on on kind of what this system,
what the offense is gonna.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Look like next year.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Maybe Clint could talk a little bit more about that
in detail, but I know it. Foundation is the run
game and we're gonna We're gonna run the rock. I
know Clint's big on running the rock, and you got
to do that and building that off of play action
keepers and dropping back when you.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Have to, let me ask you a question because you
were there right when Sam Darnold said We're gonna run
the rock?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Did your pants slide off? Well?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Had I been listening at home and not surrounded by
like a hundred people, you would have taken them would
have all been off. I would have been running around
in my skivvies yelling and screaming, oh God. But instead
I was there and I just kind of did a
little fist punts, just a little fist pump.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
It's gonna be his best friend, right, Sam Barnold's best friend.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Is we have finally gotten back to where running the
ball is cool in the NFL again.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It is so awesome.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
All these winning teams Baltimore and Philadelphia and Detroit and
all these teams making it a long way. They're just
running the rock, they're running, play action, they're playing It's
just fabulous.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We have that time of football. You know why it's
cool because they can do it. Because the Eagles have
the best offensive line in the NFL. Because the Eagles
can run the push push and nobody else can't. Because
the Baltimore Ravens have a quarterback and Lamar Jackson who
runs for eight hundred yards a year.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Offensive line and a.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Bad offensive line might help you run more than it
does pass, because a poorest pass offensive line is a disaster.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well, I don't think the Hawks were any good at
either of them last year, and they just need to
get better. So, hey, look you want to be that team.
I'm fine with that. Go give me the personnel to
do that. Then I saw running game right now. They
don't have that. They don't have that to do that consistently.
We're gonna break a little fun with audio slash. Hey
did you hear that? Next on ninety three three KJRFM, it's.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Now time for Softy in Dick's Fun with Audio. Jimmy
g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have some
fun with audio.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
All right.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
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ninety three three kjr FM. Deck and how are you?
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busy Thursday. Right here on ninety three three KJRFM. Softeed
Dick Jackson with you until seven o'clock today, right here
on ninety three three KJRFM. It's time for a little
fun with audio slash. Hey did you hear that?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Here we go? Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Dick Bill's quarterback Josh Allen was asked during a press
conference today why he did not look to break Dak
Prescott's record sixty million dollars per year deal with this
new extension that the Bills gave him earlier this week.
Speaker 11 (28:04):
It didn't seem like to my perspective, I was taking
a whole lot less. But when the way that I
make sense of it, when when you start getting these
fairly big numbers throughout the entire league, you know, it's
weird to say this, but what's what's five more going
to do for my life that I can't already do
right now?
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Right?
Speaker 11 (28:23):
So, like it, it's not that crazy to me, right, Like,
I live a pretty good life, got a house, got
a car. We're good. I wasn't looking to absolutely kill
them in every every chance that I could. And I
told my agent that I was like, hey, if this
this has any impact on the pack or impact on
the cap, I should say, let's figure out a way
(28:46):
to not do that. So again, we were both sides
were willing to move and change different things, and it
was a pretty pretty calm mannered and negotiation is what
I can what I can say, at least what I
can hear on both sides.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, first of all, so it's ten percent less than
what Dak was getting. So imagine your salary and take
ten percent off. If that would bother you, I think
it would bother you. But obviously when you're making more
money the less, you know whatever. I love that he
said it. I think it's great pr by him. He's
stealing a page from the Brady Playbook a little bit
right and saying, hey, look, if the extra five million
bucks gets me a center or a guard or whatever,
(29:22):
then then go for it. I mean, he might be
speaking like a kid from Wyoming. I have no idea, right,
but I think it's incredible pr by him.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Buffalo Bill fans thought of Josh Allen two days ago
after hearing that, they love him even more probably worth
That's how you handle it, man, I mean, that's just
perfectly said by him. And you know what, Look, you
can make an argument financially, Hey, five million bucks if
you invest a property could be thirty million dollars in
how many ever years from now?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And keep minding he's dating Hailey Steinfeld, astro accomplished actress
who makes millions in her own room.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yes so, but that is the way that you become
a part of the fabric of a community by saying
things like that.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Which is why I never understand herring. Why did Russell
Wilson not do that?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Right?
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Right?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
He was dating a millionaire two right, married do a
multi millionaire?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Why did he do that?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
And instead he's just become a vagabond of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I thought you're gonna say something else, Ali, God, either
A he doesn't get it, B doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
She has you know, bad people, you know offering him advice. Right.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I mean, look, I mean there's not many guys that
have done that, right, Brady's and Alan. I mean, I'm
just thinking about guys that took less money that the
list of guys that do that and make it public
is not a very big one.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Well, the right reason for that.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
There will be more because these contracts are now generational
worth where they were never generational worth until like fifteen
years ago.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well, I think it's great, good for him, good for Buffalo,
smart thing to say, and just want himself a new
fan man for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yesterday on the NFL Network, Peter Schrager sharing his thoughts
on who Cooper Cupp should sign with after being let
go by the Rams.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I'd like to see him go to Seattle.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
He is a Washington state guy, and Seattle just said
goodbye to two really good wide receivers in DK.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Metcalf and Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
And you insert Cooper Cupp, who went to Eastern Washington,
is from the state of Washington and is in the
division with the Rams. And Bobby Wagner did the same
thing in the reverse. When the Seahawks were like, we're
done with Bobby Wagner, the Rams signed him and he's like,
I cannot wait to play Seattle and beat them twice
a year.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
This is going to be the opposite that.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
I just feel like Sam Darnold is going there with
Jackson Smith and Jigma, and we've got who Jake Bobo
was the number two guy. All due respect to Jake Bobo, like,
Cooper Cup's a huge upgrade from that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Well, now it's going to be Marcuz Veldez Scanling is
going to be among the top three for now, and
who knows, by the time it saw said and done,
he may not even be top three. I mean, I'm
totally cool with Cooper Cupp coming here. And here's why.
The injuries as a bit of a concern. He's missed
an entire season the last three years. But when he plays,
he's very productive.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
The guy had one hundred targets and eleven starts last year.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
One hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Now, that's not gonna happen in Seattle, especially if they
run the ball the way he can't.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Don't get that in forty two stars.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
But he had sixty seven catches in twelve games a
year ago. That's a ninety five catch pace thousand yard
season for Cooper Cup. This would be a totally different
production wise receiver versus Marquez Valdez skal get him, sign him.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's incentive.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Rayden contract, have a have a catches, have a yards,
have a touchdown incentive to make it.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Really easy like Gino's was, by the way, No, not
that easy. She's Louise Ginos.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Gino os Ryan Grubb a lot for those incentives. He's
like Ryan Grubb tried to get Gino those incentives.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I will give you this. Adam Schefter was on Kevin
Shockey's station today down in Denver altitude right yeah, and
he said that. Schefter said that he thinks that Cooper
Cup wants to be with the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
That's interesting. All right, Let's do one more time for
one more Is that cool with you?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Hey, Dick? Did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Kansas State's basketball season came to an end last night
with the lost of Baylor in the Big Twelve Tournament.
Last year, Illinois transfer Coleman Hawkins joined Kansas State for
a reported two million dollars anil deal, but after Coleman
scored five points in their season ending loss on Wednesday,
the four broke down when talking about backlash he has received.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
These guys haven't experienced some of the days have experienced.
I really wanted to come in and packed the program.
I'm sorry for crying. I really wanted to come in
and packed the program. Yeah, fight, I let a lot
(33:50):
of people.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Now I feel like I did a poor job.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
I've letting people talk about me, fake my play.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And all year.
Speaker 9 (34:03):
Just go back and black out everything, not for myself
but for the to you. So we had a more
successful year.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, we knew this would happen the college basketball players,
football players making money, that it would come with some
criticism and they'd be expected to perform, and there'd be
pressure like pro athletes. And a twenty two year old
kid is not ready to become a pro athlete. That's
why they're twenty two year old kids playing college basketball.
So this was one of the concerns. Part of it.
There's a part of me, honestly that wants to say
(34:32):
crimea river like member of the movie Jerry Maguire when
the guy came on the Roy Firestone Show.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You know the pro shirt of fifty five million dollars,
Remember that guy.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yes, it's like, dude, I mean, this is what you
guys all wanted, right, you all wanted this chance to
make money and to be paid and compensated like professionals. Well,
and you know what, I'm not even saying that the
criticism is warranted or justified. The name calling, the crap
these guys get on social media, that's not in the
pros either, but the pressure to perform that comes along
(35:04):
with making that kind of money, I don't think a
lot of these kids are ready for it, Dick.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
And you might see more of.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
That as an age old critic of the transfer portal
and as a guy that only supported NIL when you
actually was a tit for tat quid pro quote. I'm
going to do something for this company and they are
going to pay.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Me for it.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
That is the only NIL I approved of. I would
just say this to Coleman Hawkins, tough.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, tough. A lot of people agree with him.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Got two million dollars man, right, And the human side
of me says, Okay, feel sorry for this twenty two
year old kid crying on national radio or national TV.
But the pragmatic, the pragmatic nature in me is says,
you know what, you get what you deserve. You got
your two million dollars, you get all the crap that
comes with.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
UH three fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Brian Nemhauser, Hawk Blogger was there for John Schneider's press conference.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
What did he learn? What does he think think next?
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