March 19, 2025 • 31 mins
In the third hour, Dick Fain and Jackson Felts chat with Seattle Sounders Head Coach Brian Schmetzer, then look ahead to the 2025 NFL Draft with Lance Zierlein from the NFL Network, then Seattle Kraken Head Coach Dan Bylsma jumps on before pregame.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Brian Schmetzer right now on ninety three point three k triphim.
That's a Brian Smetzer contract, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Jackson?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
One year thirty five point six nuts. That's about That's
about right, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Brian?
Speaker 4 (00:11):
I wish my Dick he can be my agent?
Speaker 5 (00:17):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I had to look at the story a couple of
times before I believe it was like one year thirty
five point six million for a pass rusher, my my, my, Well,
First and foremost most importantly, how are you feeling? Because
we know you missed a game last week. You were ill,
and you stayed here while the while the team played
in Saint Louis.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
First game.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I've missed Dick since two thousand and nine, so that
was kind of a newsworthy point. I don't think it's
that newsworthy, but it was.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
It's been a long.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Time, so I guess.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I've just been lucky or healthy or good.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
And you know, look, COVID is still around, and you know,
people get sick and you just got to do what's right.
And I didn't want to get anybody else sick on
our team because we've got an important stretch of games
coming up.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Is it more nerve wracking to watch on TV than
it is when you're actually there and you kind of
feel like you got a little bit of control what's
going on.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's a great question, Dick, because it was kind of
surreal for me. I mean, I don't watch it on
my couch in front of my TV having a you know,
hot tea because I was sick, and you know, I
was just kind of watching.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
And I watched a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Of MLST games this weekend, so that was a little different.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
But there is a different view on TV.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I mean the zoom, the camera zooms type kind of
where the ball is, and so you kind of see
the player's emotions a little bit clear on the TV broadcast.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Normally, our panoramic.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
View you can't really see guys faces and everything and
the replays and then you know, so that was interesting.
But then the real thing was like I had to,
you know, stop listening to the announcers because they were
kind of making me biased. I mean, they were saying
good things about our team and then where they were losing,
and then you know, I watched some other games and
I was listening and there's that unconscious bias when you
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listen to people talk about your team or the sport,
and you got to kind of fight through that.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Well couch Jackson here and you just simply should have
listened to the Danny Jackson kJ alcohol that's.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Right there, you go.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Sorry, Danny Jackson.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Hey listen while you were out, the team's also missing
a bunch of guys. Let's first go over the injuries
for Jordan Morris with the hamstring, Pedro del le Vega
with the quad. What are their timetables to get back
to help your offense.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
They're only a week in Pedro maybe a little longer,
a week in a couple of days, but they're still
going to be out another four weeks. It was good
to get them out on the field today running around,
albeit at a slow pace. But those are those are
you know, four week injuries and you know we're not
going to speed that timeline up.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
It's a long Jackson.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
We've only played four games, so we got a lot
of season left, so we'll be prudent and we'll be careful.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And losing Paul ariol for the season obviously terrible news.
How close are you to getting Reid Baker Whiting back
and can he partially fill that role that Paul was
doing early in the season.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Can Obviously, Paul had a lot of experience, and he
actually started out the season really really well.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I was very pleased with his performances.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
He integrated himself into the group really well.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Reid's going to have to catch up.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I mean, he's a talented young kid, but young kids
have a few more ups and downs, and Paul was
pretty steady. So Reid might not be ready for this weekend.
But the game against San Jose. At San Jose, I'm
thinking that Reid. And because I know you're going to
ask about kim key He, I think both kim key
He and Reid should be available for some minutes against
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San Jose.
Speaker 7 (03:52):
Good. Great.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
How about Houston Dynamo coming to town, a team you
beat in.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
The playoffs last year.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So looking at that Entirequo squad, what do you make
of the team coming in on Saturday night?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
It's a good team. I love Benny Olson. He's a
real fiery, you know, real colorful, i'll say, colorful guy.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
On the bench.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
So that's always you know, it's a good conversation with Benny.
But the big news is really you know, Nico Ladero
coming back in a different uniform. I mean, that's the
that's the real storyline for me. There's gonna be some
emotion there, you know, And how do our fans react,
How does Nico react, How do his tea his ex
teammates react. So it's a it's a pretty big game,
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and I hope everybody comes out to you know, support
Nico because he's done so much for us, But then
also remember who they're cheering.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
For, coach.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
I'm sure there may be plans, but I mean for
you if you were in charge of the whole shebang
at lumen Field on Saturday, like, do you think that
there should be a moment to honor him a standing ovation?
And do you do you have any plans to talk
to him?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
What do you?
Speaker 7 (04:55):
What do you?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
What are you going to say to Nico before kickoff?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Well, look, we had we had a conversation at the
beginning of this year about the possibility of coming back
and it just wasn't the right timing.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
We left it in a good spot. I said, hey,
let's look.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Let's wait, let's see what happens halfway through the year
the summer transfer window.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So we ended on good terms.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
But I would roll out the red carpet Tronico. I
think we owe him that. I know there's plans behind
the scenes to see what can happen.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
But we have to go through protocol.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
We have to talk to Houston first because he's you know,
he's part of their organization. And then we have to,
you know, see what Nico wants.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I mean, it's his career, it's his life.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
He's got to have a say in it. But I'd
love to do something.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Special for him, no question about it. A legendary Sounder coach.
I like to ask you about Haesus Ferrara and how
he's integrating into the squad.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
What needs to happen for him to break through with
a goal or two.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, there's been a lot of chatter. I mean, is
he at number nine, is he at number ten? Is
he a nine and a half? Has he come and
got enough minutes? And you know, look those that that
early season stuff with the national team and his injury
history from last year. I'm gonna tell you, Dick that
I'm giving heyesus some benners of the doubt. It was
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his first.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Game up there as a number nine.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I'm gonna unleash him there's no minute restriction, there's no nothing.
We've got a game a week for the next you know,
ten weeks. Uh, he's gonna see a lot of playing
time and either tremendously talented player. Once he gets integrated
into that new role, he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Great stuff. I'm glad you're feeling better. Good to have
you back on the sidelines this weekend.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Con Thanks coach.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
All right, take care, guys.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
You bet.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Brian Schmetzer, our weekly guest.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Always great to talk to Brian, and you know, Jackson
when we when we come back in the next segment,
we're gonna we're gonna chat with Lance Zernline from NFL
dot com, our weekly conversation. I'm really interested to first
and foremost to get Lance's take on what the Seahawks
have done and how that affects their draft situation. They
get Cooper cut, should that affect whether they go wide
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receiver high? They get Sam Darnold, Should that affect how
they draft the quarterback?
Speaker 6 (07:12):
I think it's an It's interesting because the Sam Donald contract,
as we now understand it is, essentially could be a
one year, thirty seven million dollar deal. So I'm very
interested to know if he thinks that there's a quarterback,
maybe you should If there's a quarterback in those middle
rounds that Seattle could get, I want to know who
those guys are.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
From Lance, we.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Will talk about those names coming up. Everybody interested in
the NFL Draft. Our friend Lance Zerline, who joins us
on a weekly basis from NFL dot com. He is
gonna break down the upcoming draft coming up next right
here on ninety three point three kjr FM as.
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Lance Zerline are expert from NFL dot Com. How you doing, Lance,
(08:33):
I'm doing well. How do we doing today, Dick, Oh,
We're doing fantastic. We have a lot of draft questions
for it. Just I kind of want to start since
the Cooper Cup signing has come since we have talked last.
I just love your take on Cooper, how you felt
about him coming out of the draft and what type
of a fit you think he is for Seattle at
this point in his career.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Well, he was a guy that you know, I kind
of you lean into the physical attributes and you say out,
I mean not fast. You know, he doesn't he doesn't
really stand out from a trade standpoint. But then you know,
it's a great learning lesson for me, uh when I
wrote him up, because when you go back and try
to find out where you miss guys, it's just ultra competitive,
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very smart as a route runner, knows how to you know,
knows how to get open and so those you know,
guys like that, there's that's a talent, that's the skill
and sometimes you just don't know if it's gonna project
from the level of football that he played in college
up to the pros. But certainly it did, and he's
had a great career. I think he ended up obviously
with a great team and a head coach and a
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quarterback that made the most of his talent. But I
think it's a good fit for Seattle. I think Sam
Darnold now has two reliable types of targets. You know,
I think you still need to find a field stretcher.
There's still work to be done in that in that
wide receiver room, but you know how two guys that
can really run routes and and create opportunities in terms
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of contested catches as well. So I like it. He's
not He's not substantially different, in my opinion than I
mean Smith and jigba is a is a better receiver
at this stage than Cooper cupp Is. But I think that,
you know, there is still a different flavor of ice
cream still to be added to that that roster to
give a field stretching element, because that's certainly not going
to be Cooper cup.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Well, now that we know that two of the three
top receivers are going to be JSN and Cooper Cup.
Let's let's go to the wide receiver. We talked a
little about Golden last week. What now that you know
that the type of wide receivers Seattle's going to have,
what type you know?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Who is the guy that you look at and go God?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
He would fit perfectly with Cooper Cup and JSN. If
the Seahawks decided to draft a wide receiver in the
first two or three rounds.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Well, I think you know, he's not a burner, but
he's a big, talented, ball winning wide receiver, and that's
Jaden Higgins out of Iowa State. I think he gives
you some of some of those elements for sure. You know,
you really you want to find somebody who you don't
have to be the fastest guy, but if you can
get down there in man de man and you got size,
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then you can win those jump balls, you can win
down the field and create some explosive plays. So he's
one right away that is gonna stand out to me.
There's a player in the late and day three who
I think is is really a hidden gym and he's
not really hitting. It's Dante Thornton, great speed, good size, explosive,
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vertical playmaker. He's a guy that's not gonna have like
a ton of catches, but when he gets catches, he's
got a chance to really hit it big. We're talking
twenty plus yard type, you know, explosive plays. And then
Trey Harris, he didn't run as fast as I was
hoping that he would run, which could cause him to
fall a little in the draft. But I think from
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Seattle standpoint, this is a big receiver who has you know,
it's funny I watch DK Metcalf coming out of Ohio
State and there's a lot of receivers on his team
in the same year and U I mean out of
ole Miss when he came out, and this year there's
a lot of receivers out of ole Miss. I'm having
to watch. And when I watch Trey Harris, he doesn't
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have DK size necessarily, but he plays tough like DK
did coming out. You can throw short throws, he can
catch and run and and and you know, and and
move the chains on the on the third and three.
Throw him a hitch and he'll go get it. He
had a lot of explosive plays vertically, even though he
doesn't run like you think he's going to on the
in the forty. I think when he plays, he plays
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much faster than any time. So Trey Harris is another
one I think that really would fit what Seattle kind
of needs and a guy who fits kind of what
they've had outside in the past.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
How about TCU wide receiver save On Williams site six
four four eight forty and the Seahawks have decided to
bring him in on a on a Top thirty visit.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
He's interesting because he's kind of a gadget player, Like
his routes are terrible. He's really really you know, unpolished,
but he is kind of a freaky athlete, like he's
Corderyl Patterson when he came out. He's got some of
those same elements where he's really big, he's tough to
bring down. You just have to figure jack, how am
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I gonna use him? What are we gonna do with him?
You gotta figure out a role for him because he's
an interesting fit. Because I mean, he's an interesting prospect
because I think there's a lot of upside with him.
But from a fit standpoint, I don't know that you
get a lot out of him in year one. I
think he still has work to be done. But now
his teammate Jack Besh, this guy has automatic hands, he's
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got good size, really tough ball winner coming out of TCU,
so he can he can go make tough catches. But
he's once again, he's a guy who I think, you
know he can play outside. I think he's gonna have
kind of average speed.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
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Beer Hall, and Lance is flipping it over to the
quarterback position. Wherever you were on the Seahawks taking a
quarterback fairly high in the draft before they got Sam Donald,
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where are you after getting Sam Darnald?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And then also with.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
The structure of the contract being what it is, which
is really and truly a one year deal. If they
only want Sam for one year, does that change what
you think about the Seahawks and and how busy they
may be at the quarterback position in the draft.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Not not really, because I always think when you're dealing
with a little bit well, and Sam's not an older quarterback.
Let's face it, I mean he's sub thirty. There's still
a lot there's still a lot of football to be played.
But it is a contract that they can extend if
they want to. It can be one, it can be
more than that. I think you're looking. I mean, if
I'm if I'm John Schneider, knowing I know about the
roster and the pieces you need right now to fill out,
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I'm probably not looking quarterback until the fourth round. But
if some quarterbacks slip, I think there are some. It's
a pretty good year for depth of backups in this
in this draft. When I say backups, I mean quality backups.
Guys that I would give a six point one grade too,
so you know that can come in and maybe be
a below average starter. So this is the kind of
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year where you can find that you want quarterbacks to fall,
so one of them falls into Day three, and if
one falls into Day three that you like, it could
be quen yours if you.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Were to fall.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
If there's actually a few guys that I could see
targeting in the fourth round, because then what you've got
is a developmental quarterback. You don't have the pressure on
to you know that they need to be your future starter,
but you can very quietly assess them and practice in
preseason games, you know, and get a real feel for
whether or not they could end up becoming. You know,
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I don't want to say the next Russell Wilson because
that's a big, big ass right, but you know, you
basically are seeing, can we get a starter at a
discounted rate. It's rare to get those guys nowadays, but
when you do, it's just such a huge advantage for
your salary cap Well.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Tyler Schuck is a guy from Louisville that the Seahawks
have invited to a top forty, so obviously they're they're
keeping an eye on him. We saw Jalen Milroe running
a fourth I don't know if you believe the four
three seven forty, but my god, that guy has got
to be able to find the field at some position
in this league, whether it's quarterback or not.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Yeah. And that's and that's the thing, you know, when
it comes to the public, the public and the media
like to Nashchiefs and oh he's a quarterback. Don't call
him a wide receiver, running back. He's an explosive athlete.
He's what he is. And he can, he can throw
the ball with the he can throw a deep he's
got a strong arm. He's not very accurate. The decision
making was a real problem this year, a lot of
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bad turnovers. Just not great. But he does something that
very few quarterbacks ever in the history of football have
been able to do, which is really a with the
speed of a running back. And even if he didn't
run a four to three seven, let's say he ran
a four to four to four, he's still faster than
most of the running backs in this draft. Ye, and
he's got linebacker you know, he's got linebacker size, so
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bordering on linebacker size. So this is just a really
special athlete. And so I've already talked to teams who
are saying, look, we can draft him as a developmental quarterback,
but if we do, one of the reasons we're going
to push him up the border a little higher, but
is because we think that he's a playmaker with the
ball in his hands, and we'll figure out how to
play him, where to play him, and what to do
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with them, because you just don't have guys with that size,
speed and ability to potentially line up at a variety
of spots. So I think he's got a chance to
go in the second round. There's not a lot of
quarterbacks that get drafted in the second round anymore, But
because he's a rare athlete, I think he's got that shot.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh I love that idea of putting him in the
shotgun at the one yard line. I mean, and just
let him be able to find his nose into the
end zone anyway you can with that with that speed.
Lands zerline joining us. Speaking of quarterbacks, how big is
the gap between Ward and Sanders in your mind? And
how do you feel about him compared to how you
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felt about the top quarterbacks a year ago.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Well, so they're very different types of quarterbacks. One is
an arm talent quarterback and one is going to be
a pocket is going to be a pocket passer who
has to win with you know, timing and accuracy. So
you know, from a trade standpoint, Ward you'd say is
and most teams I talk to believe he's the only
clear first round caliber quarterback in this year's draft. I
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don't think that the difference is quite as substantial because
the game is not played, you know, with just arm talent.
The game is really played with timing, with accuracy with tooys,
a lot of elements that actually should Or Sanders. You know,
he needs to get better with his timing, but he
has some of the elements, those check marks that are
you know, he checks the box more so than than
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Ward does. But Ward has some of the special physical gifts.
I think if you were you know Sor Sanders is
a second rounder, maybe third rounder. And last year's drafts now,
I do think cam Ward would have gone in the
first He would have gone after Penix, and I think
he would have slid down the draft, but I think
he probably would have gone late in the first round
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had he been in last year's draft.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And is the Chador slide? I mean, you've got him
slide way Penix wasn't.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Now Penix actually is drafted to head of bon Nick,
So I guess Bo was the last quarterback to go,
so he would have been drafted, you know, behind.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Bone behind bone necks.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Okay, the last of the first round quarterbacks is the
Chador slide, which we're seeing on some mocks like yours.
We're not seeing him on other mocks. So, I mean,
how much of it is real worries about his ability
and how much of it is like the off the
field distractions and is he a leader and you have
to deal with his dad and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
I think it's more so not having an elite trade.
I think that's more so you have to have those
other the other discussions. You have to have them, and
he's not gonna be for everyone. And if he falls past,
if he doesn't get drafted at third by the Giants,
and then he doesn't get drafted at sixth by the
Raiders or seven by the Jets, then you've really got
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one more spot, which is the Saints at nine. And
if they don't take you, then you're you're on a
free fall, like you will slide and slide pretty far
because the other the other teams just aren't taking a
quarterback there. These are teams who either have quarterbacks or
that they love, or have quarterbacks they're okay with, but
they think they've got a chance to win right now,
and so they're gonna draft players who they think can
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have a bigger impact right away. So really, Sanders needs
to go probably inside the first seven picks, or he's
gonna he's gonna fall. I don't think the Saints would
take him with the ninth pick. But you know, there's
a lot of buzz behind the scenes that the Giants
and the Giants are basically you know, the talk is
the GM and the head coach need to save their
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job and the best way to do that is, you know,
to go get Aaron Rodgers. And now that failed, that's
not gonna work. So the next best thing is to
add a young quarterback. You hope that young quarterback plays
better than expected. You hope you win more games than expected.
Because that way, a lot of times an owner will say, Okay,
we're we may be on the right trajectory. Let's let's
see this thing through. And if you draft Shador Sanders,
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for example, you've got a chance to make that argument.
If you don't draft them, then I'm not sure what
you're gonna do. I mean, you got Russell Wilson, but
that's still that stop gap. And if you don't win
with Russell Wilson, you're fired. So that's what they could
be doing is throwing a lifeline out there, you know,
for their own jobs potentially, And I get it, I
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just don't know if it's what's best for the organization.
If you don't have a true high grade on a
quarterback Final.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
A couple of minutes with Lanzernlin, our draft expert from
NFL dot com. Seahawks fans just begging, pleading for an
interior offensive lineman in the draft. It's not a sexy position,
but I tell you what, Lance, it's sexy here in Seattle.
There is no question about that because of John Schneider's
lack of landing one the last decade and a half.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
So tell me about the.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Interior offensive linemen that are worth taking at eighteen or
would the Hawks just be better off trading down and
getting one in the later stages of the first round.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Well, you gotta be careful because there's some teams and
then you know, twenty two needs a guard the Chargers,
twenty five needs a guard the Texans. So you have
to be really careful about where you maneuver. John Schneider
knows that, So you know, Tyler Booker would make some sense.
Tyler is the uh uh, Tyler is the is the
big guard out of Alabama. Not really a great bit
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as his zone scheme guard, though, you're a little bit
more limited in terms of his ability to some of
those you know, get to some of those landmarks that
he needs to on the outside zone, so that one
would be a question of whether or not they feel
like he fits scheme and how versatil Clint Kubiak is
willing to be from a you know, from a running
scheme standpoint, and that's at eighteen. I think it might
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be a little early for Donovan Jackson from Ohio State.
Gray's Abel would make a lot of sense. I think
grays Abel could play center or guard for the Hawks,
and and he's tough, he can protect a passer. I mean,
I think he'd be a good pick eighteen. You could
argue that's early for greys Abel, But is it early
if you get a starter, you know that guy who's
going to start for you for eight to ten years.
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That's always the point that GM's making it I think
is a really smart Is a really smart point to make.
Is people get too caught up as the value of
a pick, Well, you're picking starters and if you get
a long time starter, then that's great value in your pick,
and that's what the most important. So I think he's
another one that fits the bill. But once you get
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outside of those two guys, in terms of interior interior players,
I think you start to unless you want to make
Kelvin Banks, who I think could I think could play
along the interior from University of Texas. If he's still
on the board at pick number eighteen, I think he
would make some sense. You bump them from tackle down
into guard and I don't think you'd have a problem
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running anything that you needed to run with him. So
he's another player maybe to keep an eye on. So
and then Josh Conyers, you know, he's another one tackle
that could move inside the guard and some teams have
him as a guard. So he has played in some
outside zone, some stretch play stuff for Oregon, So that
would you know, that would actually make a lot of
sense as well. And once again eighteen isn't too high.
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I don't know, But you want to find the right
fit for the offensive scheme too, that's very very important.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Excellent insight. As always, Lance, we will talk to you
next week.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
All right, sounds good?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Thanks it you bet, Lance Zerline from NFL dot com.
Brought to you my our friends at the Queen and Beer.
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Speaker 8 (24:52):
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Speaker 2 (25:11):
Jay Welcome back Wednesday evening. Getting set for cracking hockey.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Mike Benton will have the pre game for you in
just a few moments at the top of the hour.
But first we got to talk to the head man
to Seattle Kraken and led his team to another victory
last night, six to two in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Dan Bolsman joins us Hi coach, how.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Are you great sitting on the bench in Minnesota here
getting ready to play a game tonight. No or two
other people I'd rather talk to than you guys to
secure a win tonight.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Absolutely well, Safti's not with us today, he's busy golfing,
so it'll just be me. But we'll still we'll still
keep the streak alive because you got a four game
streak with at least a point after the win last night,
and heck, you're a Winnipeg overtime goal away from a
four game win streak.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So talk about what's clicking right now for you guys.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, I'm talking about playing our best hockey down the stretch.
The guys have taken upon themselves to have that focus
and I think it's great to see. We're seeing it
almost night in and night out now. The the pace
we're playing with, with speed we're playing with to get
into the offensive zone and play and you know, at
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times dominating teams in the offensive zone, and you know,
it's a it's just happened now. Game game Montreal, Utah
Winnipeg was a great game against a great team. You
had a chance to to win. That one went overtime,
But you got to take the positives of of how
we played and we brought it into Chicago and kind
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of you know, as the game went on, not the
greatest start for us, but we we bulldozed them in
the second period and that was great to see.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well, I think a lot of people that would would
just read the box score and they go, oh my god,
four goals the second period.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's where I got it. That's what got it done.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But let's talk about that goal at the end of
the first period by Adam Larson. You guys were dug
into a hole down to nothing. Do you potentially not
even have that outburst in the second period if you
don't get that Larson goal? And how did that change
kind of the locker room dynamic going into the second period?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
It was, it was big for us. I think the game,
you know, especially the first five minutes, didn't particularly start
out going our way. I'll say there was some felt
like a little bit of buck luck, but some bounces,
some some miscues, and you know, they got out to
the lead. And the power play power play was an
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example of that. It was a puck whipped into the slot,
hit off a skate and goes by Joey. The second
one was a face off that they whipped the net
and got a tip in and you're staring now down
to nothing. Be it early in the game, but it
had to feel that it wasn't going our way. And
it wasn't just the goal that Lars scored there. We
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had two or three chances there at the end of
the first period. But I think it was massive to
see the puck going the net for Lars, see the
puck going for the group there late in the period,
get us, you know, our mentality, our mindset, got us
back in the game. And we've come down from two
goals too many times this year. We know we can
do it. But that goal that early in the game
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at the end of the first was just set the
stage for the last forty minutes and a.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Couple of goals for the youngster.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Shane Wright gets his career high minutes with with over seventeen.
Talk about what his minutes look like ideally going forward
now with him playing so well, Yeah, I think you.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Know, it's there's a there's a minute focus for a
lot of guys here going forward. I think, you know,
the Madi Veneer's line has been real key for us
going down the stretch here and trying, you know, producing
a top line. We want to continue that. We want
to continue Shane Wright, you know, stepping into the middle
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of the rank in a lot of different situations, power play,
you know, and be it a third fourth line. We
don't really have numbers on our team. But to see
him get the opportunity to get more minutes last night
was a big part of that game, and he cashed
in with you know, two goals, get back on the
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score sheet, gives him seventeen goals on the year, gives
he reached the forty point mark. You know, just he
continues to grow and his minutes and role should continue
to grow well.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Minnesota to Night.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
By the way, Jaden Schwartz's eight hundredth career NHL game tonight,
talk about what he means to you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Not so silent leader for our group. He's he's got
a rye personality and he's quick with wit. But he's
both in demeanor and in action and a word. He's
been a big leader for this group this year, especially
in the absence of Jordan Everly for such a long
period of time. He's he's got a seasoned pro about him.
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He's got a real good idea we want to play
and how it should be done. And he's a vocal
He's a quiet I see, he's leads with his demeanor,
but he's he's a big voice in that dressing room.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Coach is gonna be fun to watch. It fun to
listen to you, you guys. You guys are playing a really
fun brand of hockey right now. And let's make it
five games in a row with a point and four
out of five wins.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
How about that.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I love it. Let's do it and we can continue
to talk. I know we missed a beat there with
the one point in Winnipeg, but right now this conversation
is got our team going.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, we're rolling a little bit, aren't we. I love it.
I love it. Keep it going. Thanks coaching, We'll talk
to you next week.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Good luck, all right, all right, thank you you bet
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Head coach of the Seattle Crack and Dan Bilesman leading us
perfectly into crack and pregame with our friend Mike Benton
coming up next on ninety three point three kJ RFM
Brian Schmetzer right now on ninety three point three k triphim.
That's a Brian Smetzer contract, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Jackson?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
One year thirty five point six nuts. That's about That's
about right, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Brian?
Speaker 4 (00:11):
I wish my Dick he can be my agent?
Speaker 5 (00:17):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I had to look at the story a couple of
times before I believe it was like one year thirty
five point six million for a pass rusher, my my, my, Well,
First and foremost most importantly, how are you feeling? Because
we know you missed a game last week. You were ill,
and you stayed here while the while the team played
in Saint Louis.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
First game.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I've missed Dick since two thousand and nine, so that
was kind of a newsworthy point. I don't think it's
that newsworthy, but it was.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
It's been a long.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Time, so I guess.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I've just been lucky or healthy or good.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
And you know, look, COVID is still around, and you know,
people get sick and you just got to do what's right.
And I didn't want to get anybody else sick on
our team because we've got an important stretch of games
coming up.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Is it more nerve wracking to watch on TV than
it is when you're actually there and you kind of
feel like you got a little bit of control what's
going on.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's a great question, Dick, because it was kind of
surreal for me. I mean, I don't watch it on
my couch in front of my TV having a you know,
hot tea because I was sick, and you know, I
was just kind of watching.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
And I watched a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Of MLST games this weekend, so that was a little different.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
But there is a different view on TV.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I mean the zoom, the camera zooms type kind of
where the ball is, and so you kind of see
the player's emotions a little bit clear on the TV broadcast.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Normally, our panoramic.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
View you can't really see guys faces and everything and
the replays and then you know, so that was interesting.
But then the real thing was like I had to,
you know, stop listening to the announcers because they were
kind of making me biased. I mean, they were saying
good things about our team and then where they were losing,
and then you know, I watched some other games and
I was listening and there's that unconscious bias when you
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listen to people talk about your team or the sport,
and you got to kind of fight through that.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Well couch Jackson here and you just simply should have
listened to the Danny Jackson kJ alcohol that's.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Right there, you go.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Sorry, Danny Jackson.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Hey listen while you were out, the team's also missing
a bunch of guys. Let's first go over the injuries
for Jordan Morris with the hamstring, Pedro del le Vega
with the quad. What are their timetables to get back
to help your offense.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
They're only a week in Pedro maybe a little longer,
a week in a couple of days, but they're still
going to be out another four weeks. It was good
to get them out on the field today running around,
albeit at a slow pace. But those are those are
you know, four week injuries and you know we're not
going to speed that timeline up.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
It's a long Jackson.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
We've only played four games, so we got a lot
of season left, so we'll be prudent and we'll be careful.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And losing Paul ariol for the season obviously terrible news.
How close are you to getting Reid Baker Whiting back
and can he partially fill that role that Paul was
doing early in the season.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Can Obviously, Paul had a lot of experience, and he
actually started out the season really really well.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I was very pleased with his performances.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
He integrated himself into the group really well.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Reid's going to have to catch up.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I mean, he's a talented young kid, but young kids
have a few more ups and downs, and Paul was
pretty steady. So Reid might not be ready for this weekend.
But the game against San Jose. At San Jose, I'm
thinking that Reid. And because I know you're going to
ask about kim key He, I think both kim key
He and Reid should be available for some minutes against
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San Jose.
Speaker 7 (03:52):
Good. Great.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
How about Houston Dynamo coming to town, a team you
beat in.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
The playoffs last year.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So looking at that Entirequo squad, what do you make
of the team coming in on Saturday night?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
It's a good team. I love Benny Olson. He's a
real fiery, you know, real colorful, i'll say, colorful guy.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
On the bench.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
So that's always you know, it's a good conversation with Benny.
But the big news is really you know, Nico Ladero
coming back in a different uniform. I mean, that's the
that's the real storyline for me. There's gonna be some
emotion there, you know, And how do our fans react,
How does Nico react, How do his tea his ex
teammates react. So it's a it's a pretty big game,
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and I hope everybody comes out to you know, support
Nico because he's done so much for us, But then
also remember who they're cheering.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
For, coach.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
I'm sure there may be plans, but I mean for
you if you were in charge of the whole shebang
at lumen Field on Saturday, like, do you think that
there should be a moment to honor him a standing ovation?
And do you do you have any plans to talk
to him?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
What do you?
Speaker 7 (04:55):
What do you?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
What are you going to say to Nico before kickoff?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Well, look, we had we had a conversation at the
beginning of this year about the possibility of coming back
and it just wasn't the right timing.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
We left it in a good spot. I said, hey,
let's look.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Let's wait, let's see what happens halfway through the year
the summer transfer window.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So we ended on good terms.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
But I would roll out the red carpet Tronico. I
think we owe him that. I know there's plans behind
the scenes to see what can happen.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
But we have to go through protocol.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
We have to talk to Houston first because he's you know,
he's part of their organization. And then we have to,
you know, see what Nico wants.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I mean, it's his career, it's his life.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
He's got to have a say in it. But I'd
love to do something.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Special for him, no question about it. A legendary Sounder coach.
I like to ask you about Haesus Ferrara and how
he's integrating into the squad.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
What needs to happen for him to break through with
a goal or two.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, there's been a lot of chatter. I mean, is
he at number nine, is he at number ten? Is
he a nine and a half? Has he come and
got enough minutes? And you know, look those that that
early season stuff with the national team and his injury
history from last year. I'm gonna tell you, Dick that
I'm giving heyesus some benners of the doubt. It was
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his first.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Game up there as a number nine.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I'm gonna unleash him there's no minute restriction, there's no nothing.
We've got a game a week for the next you know,
ten weeks. Uh, he's gonna see a lot of playing
time and either tremendously talented player. Once he gets integrated
into that new role, he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Great stuff. I'm glad you're feeling better. Good to have
you back on the sidelines this weekend.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Con Thanks coach.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
All right, take care, guys.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
You bet.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Brian Schmetzer, our weekly guest.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Always great to talk to Brian, and you know, Jackson
when we when we come back in the next segment,
we're gonna we're gonna chat with Lance Zernline from NFL
dot com, our weekly conversation. I'm really interested to first
and foremost to get Lance's take on what the Seahawks
have done and how that affects their draft situation. They
get Cooper cut, should that affect whether they go wide
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receiver high? They get Sam Darnold, Should that affect how
they draft the quarterback?
Speaker 6 (07:12):
I think it's an It's interesting because the Sam Donald contract,
as we now understand it is, essentially could be a
one year, thirty seven million dollar deal. So I'm very
interested to know if he thinks that there's a quarterback,
maybe you should If there's a quarterback in those middle
rounds that Seattle could get, I want to know who
those guys are.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
From Lance, we.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Will talk about those names coming up. Everybody interested in
the NFL Draft. Our friend Lance Zerline, who joins us
on a weekly basis from NFL dot com. He is
gonna break down the upcoming draft coming up next right
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Speaker 8 (07:44):
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Speaker 1 (08:09):
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Lance Zerline are expert from NFL dot Com. How you doing, Lance,
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I'm doing well. How do we doing today, Dick, Oh,
We're doing fantastic. We have a lot of draft questions
for it. Just I kind of want to start since
the Cooper Cup signing has come since we have talked last.
I just love your take on Cooper, how you felt
about him coming out of the draft and what type
of a fit you think he is for Seattle at
this point in his career.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Well, he was a guy that you know, I kind
of you lean into the physical attributes and you say out,
I mean not fast. You know, he doesn't he doesn't
really stand out from a trade standpoint. But then you know,
it's a great learning lesson for me, uh when I
wrote him up, because when you go back and try
to find out where you miss guys, it's just ultra competitive,
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very smart as a route runner, knows how to you know,
knows how to get open and so those you know,
guys like that, there's that's a talent, that's the skill
and sometimes you just don't know if it's gonna project
from the level of football that he played in college
up to the pros. But certainly it did, and he's
had a great career. I think he ended up obviously
with a great team and a head coach and a
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quarterback that made the most of his talent. But I
think it's a good fit for Seattle. I think Sam
Darnold now has two reliable types of targets. You know,
I think you still need to find a field stretcher.
There's still work to be done in that in that
wide receiver room, but you know how two guys that
can really run routes and and create opportunities in terms
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of contested catches as well. So I like it. He's
not He's not substantially different, in my opinion than I
mean Smith and jigba is a is a better receiver
at this stage than Cooper cupp Is. But I think that,
you know, there is still a different flavor of ice
cream still to be added to that that roster to
give a field stretching element, because that's certainly not going
to be Cooper cup.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Well, now that we know that two of the three
top receivers are going to be JSN and Cooper Cup.
Let's let's go to the wide receiver. We talked a
little about Golden last week. What now that you know
that the type of wide receivers Seattle's going to have,
what type you know?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Who is the guy that you look at and go God?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
He would fit perfectly with Cooper Cup and JSN. If
the Seahawks decided to draft a wide receiver in the
first two or three rounds.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Well, I think you know, he's not a burner, but
he's a big, talented, ball winning wide receiver, and that's
Jaden Higgins out of Iowa State. I think he gives
you some of some of those elements for sure. You know,
you really you want to find somebody who you don't
have to be the fastest guy, but if you can
get down there in man de man and you got size,
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then you can win those jump balls, you can win
down the field and create some explosive plays. So he's
one right away that is gonna stand out to me.
There's a player in the late and day three who
I think is is really a hidden gym and he's
not really hitting. It's Dante Thornton, great speed, good size, explosive,
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vertical playmaker. He's a guy that's not gonna have like
a ton of catches, but when he gets catches, he's
got a chance to really hit it big. We're talking
twenty plus yard type, you know, explosive plays. And then
Trey Harris, he didn't run as fast as I was
hoping that he would run, which could cause him to
fall a little in the draft. But I think from
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Seattle standpoint, this is a big receiver who has you know,
it's funny I watch DK Metcalf coming out of Ohio
State and there's a lot of receivers on his team
in the same year and U I mean out of
ole Miss when he came out, and this year there's
a lot of receivers out of ole Miss. I'm having
to watch. And when I watch Trey Harris, he doesn't
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have DK size necessarily, but he plays tough like DK
did coming out. You can throw short throws, he can
catch and run and and and you know, and and
move the chains on the on the third and three.
Throw him a hitch and he'll go get it. He
had a lot of explosive plays vertically, even though he
doesn't run like you think he's going to on the
in the forty. I think when he plays, he plays
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much faster than any time. So Trey Harris is another
one I think that really would fit what Seattle kind
of needs and a guy who fits kind of what
they've had outside in the past.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
How about TCU wide receiver save On Williams site six
four four eight forty and the Seahawks have decided to
bring him in on a on a Top thirty visit.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
He's interesting because he's kind of a gadget player, Like
his routes are terrible. He's really really you know, unpolished,
but he is kind of a freaky athlete, like he's
Corderyl Patterson when he came out. He's got some of
those same elements where he's really big, he's tough to
bring down. You just have to figure jack, how am
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I gonna use him? What are we gonna do with him?
You gotta figure out a role for him because he's
an interesting fit. Because I mean, he's an interesting prospect
because I think there's a lot of upside with him.
But from a fit standpoint, I don't know that you
get a lot out of him in year one. I
think he still has work to be done. But now
his teammate Jack Besh, this guy has automatic hands, he's
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got good size, really tough ball winner coming out of TCU,
so he can he can go make tough catches. But
he's once again, he's a guy who I think, you
know he can play outside. I think he's gonna have
kind of average speed.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
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Beer Hall, and Lance is flipping it over to the
quarterback position. Wherever you were on the Seahawks taking a
quarterback fairly high in the draft before they got Sam Donald,
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where are you after getting Sam Darnald?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And then also with.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
The structure of the contract being what it is, which
is really and truly a one year deal. If they
only want Sam for one year, does that change what
you think about the Seahawks and and how busy they
may be at the quarterback position in the draft.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Not not really, because I always think when you're dealing
with a little bit well, and Sam's not an older quarterback.
Let's face it, I mean he's sub thirty. There's still
a lot there's still a lot of football to be played.
But it is a contract that they can extend if
they want to. It can be one, it can be
more than that. I think you're looking. I mean, if
I'm if I'm John Schneider, knowing I know about the
roster and the pieces you need right now to fill out,
(15:03):
I'm probably not looking quarterback until the fourth round. But
if some quarterbacks slip, I think there are some. It's
a pretty good year for depth of backups in this
in this draft. When I say backups, I mean quality backups.
Guys that I would give a six point one grade too,
so you know that can come in and maybe be
a below average starter. So this is the kind of
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year where you can find that you want quarterbacks to fall,
so one of them falls into Day three, and if
one falls into Day three that you like, it could
be quen yours if you.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Were to fall.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
If there's actually a few guys that I could see
targeting in the fourth round, because then what you've got
is a developmental quarterback. You don't have the pressure on
to you know that they need to be your future starter,
but you can very quietly assess them and practice in
preseason games, you know, and get a real feel for
whether or not they could end up becoming. You know,
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I don't want to say the next Russell Wilson because
that's a big, big ass right, but you know, you
basically are seeing, can we get a starter at a
discounted rate. It's rare to get those guys nowadays, but
when you do, it's just such a huge advantage for
your salary cap Well.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Tyler Schuck is a guy from Louisville that the Seahawks
have invited to a top forty, so obviously they're they're
keeping an eye on him. We saw Jalen Milroe running
a fourth I don't know if you believe the four
three seven forty, but my god, that guy has got
to be able to find the field at some position
in this league, whether it's quarterback or not.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Yeah. And that's and that's the thing, you know, when
it comes to the public, the public and the media
like to Nashchiefs and oh he's a quarterback. Don't call
him a wide receiver, running back. He's an explosive athlete.
He's what he is. And he can, he can throw
the ball with the he can throw a deep he's
got a strong arm. He's not very accurate. The decision
making was a real problem this year, a lot of
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bad turnovers. Just not great. But he does something that
very few quarterbacks ever in the history of football have
been able to do, which is really a with the
speed of a running back. And even if he didn't
run a four to three seven, let's say he ran
a four to four to four, he's still faster than
most of the running backs in this draft. Ye, and
he's got linebacker you know, he's got linebacker size, so
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bordering on linebacker size. So this is just a really
special athlete. And so I've already talked to teams who
are saying, look, we can draft him as a developmental quarterback,
but if we do, one of the reasons we're going
to push him up the border a little higher, but
is because we think that he's a playmaker with the
ball in his hands, and we'll figure out how to
play him, where to play him, and what to do
(17:33):
with them, because you just don't have guys with that size,
speed and ability to potentially line up at a variety
of spots. So I think he's got a chance to
go in the second round. There's not a lot of
quarterbacks that get drafted in the second round anymore, But
because he's a rare athlete, I think he's got that shot.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh I love that idea of putting him in the
shotgun at the one yard line. I mean, and just
let him be able to find his nose into the
end zone anyway you can with that with that speed.
Lands zerline joining us. Speaking of quarterbacks, how big is
the gap between Ward and Sanders in your mind? And
how do you feel about him compared to how you
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felt about the top quarterbacks a year ago.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Well, so they're very different types of quarterbacks. One is
an arm talent quarterback and one is going to be
a pocket is going to be a pocket passer who
has to win with you know, timing and accuracy. So
you know, from a trade standpoint, Ward you'd say is
and most teams I talk to believe he's the only
clear first round caliber quarterback in this year's draft. I
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don't think that the difference is quite as substantial because
the game is not played, you know, with just arm talent.
The game is really played with timing, with accuracy with tooys,
a lot of elements that actually should Or Sanders. You know,
he needs to get better with his timing, but he
has some of the elements, those check marks that are
you know, he checks the box more so than than
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Ward does. But Ward has some of the special physical gifts.
I think if you were you know Sor Sanders is
a second rounder, maybe third rounder. And last year's drafts now,
I do think cam Ward would have gone in the
first He would have gone after Penix, and I think
he would have slid down the draft, but I think
he probably would have gone late in the first round
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had he been in last year's draft.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And is the Chador slide? I mean, you've got him
slide way Penix wasn't.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Now Penix actually is drafted to head of bon Nick,
So I guess Bo was the last quarterback to go,
so he would have been drafted, you know, behind.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Bone behind bone necks.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Okay, the last of the first round quarterbacks is the
Chador slide, which we're seeing on some mocks like yours.
We're not seeing him on other mocks. So, I mean,
how much of it is real worries about his ability
and how much of it is like the off the
field distractions and is he a leader and you have
to deal with his dad and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
I think it's more so not having an elite trade.
I think that's more so you have to have those
other the other discussions. You have to have them, and
he's not gonna be for everyone. And if he falls past,
if he doesn't get drafted at third by the Giants,
and then he doesn't get drafted at sixth by the
Raiders or seven by the Jets, then you've really got
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one more spot, which is the Saints at nine. And
if they don't take you, then you're you're on a
free fall, like you will slide and slide pretty far
because the other the other teams just aren't taking a
quarterback there. These are teams who either have quarterbacks or
that they love, or have quarterbacks they're okay with, but
they think they've got a chance to win right now,
and so they're gonna draft players who they think can
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have a bigger impact right away. So really, Sanders needs
to go probably inside the first seven picks, or he's
gonna he's gonna fall. I don't think the Saints would
take him with the ninth pick. But you know, there's
a lot of buzz behind the scenes that the Giants
and the Giants are basically you know, the talk is
the GM and the head coach need to save their
(20:55):
job and the best way to do that is, you know,
to go get Aaron Rodgers. And now that failed, that's
not gonna work. So the next best thing is to
add a young quarterback. You hope that young quarterback plays
better than expected. You hope you win more games than expected.
Because that way, a lot of times an owner will say, Okay,
we're we may be on the right trajectory. Let's let's
see this thing through. And if you draft Shador Sanders,
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for example, you've got a chance to make that argument.
If you don't draft them, then I'm not sure what
you're gonna do. I mean, you got Russell Wilson, but
that's still that stop gap. And if you don't win
with Russell Wilson, you're fired. So that's what they could
be doing is throwing a lifeline out there, you know,
for their own jobs potentially, And I get it, I
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just don't know if it's what's best for the organization.
If you don't have a true high grade on a
quarterback Final.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
A couple of minutes with Lanzernlin, our draft expert from
NFL dot com. Seahawks fans just begging, pleading for an
interior offensive lineman in the draft. It's not a sexy position,
but I tell you what, Lance, it's sexy here in Seattle.
There is no question about that because of John Schneider's
lack of landing one the last decade and a half.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
So tell me about the.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Interior offensive linemen that are worth taking at eighteen or
would the Hawks just be better off trading down and
getting one in the later stages of the first round.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Well, you gotta be careful because there's some teams and
then you know, twenty two needs a guard the Chargers,
twenty five needs a guard the Texans. So you have
to be really careful about where you maneuver. John Schneider
knows that, So you know, Tyler Booker would make some sense.
Tyler is the uh uh, Tyler is the is the
big guard out of Alabama. Not really a great bit
(22:37):
as his zone scheme guard, though, you're a little bit
more limited in terms of his ability to some of
those you know, get to some of those landmarks that
he needs to on the outside zone, so that one
would be a question of whether or not they feel
like he fits scheme and how versatil Clint Kubiak is
willing to be from a you know, from a running
scheme standpoint, and that's at eighteen. I think it might
(23:00):
be a little early for Donovan Jackson from Ohio State.
Gray's Abel would make a lot of sense. I think
grays Abel could play center or guard for the Hawks,
and and he's tough, he can protect a passer. I mean,
I think he'd be a good pick eighteen. You could
argue that's early for greys Abel, But is it early
if you get a starter, you know that guy who's
going to start for you for eight to ten years.
(23:21):
That's always the point that GM's making it I think
is a really smart Is a really smart point to make.
Is people get too caught up as the value of
a pick, Well, you're picking starters and if you get
a long time starter, then that's great value in your pick,
and that's what the most important. So I think he's
another one that fits the bill. But once you get
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outside of those two guys, in terms of interior interior players,
I think you start to unless you want to make
Kelvin Banks, who I think could I think could play
along the interior from University of Texas. If he's still
on the board at pick number eighteen, I think he
would make some sense. You bump them from tackle down
into guard and I don't think you'd have a problem
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running anything that you needed to run with him. So
he's another player maybe to keep an eye on. So
and then Josh Conyers, you know, he's another one tackle
that could move inside the guard and some teams have
him as a guard. So he has played in some
outside zone, some stretch play stuff for Oregon, So that
would you know, that would actually make a lot of
sense as well. And once again eighteen isn't too high.
(24:24):
I don't know, But you want to find the right
fit for the offensive scheme too, that's very very important.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Excellent insight. As always, Lance, we will talk to you
next week.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
All right, sounds good?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Thanks it you bet, Lance Zerline from NFL dot com.
Brought to you my our friends at the Queen and Beer.
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and all next week as well. Be back with much
much more. Dan Bilsman, the head coach of the Seattle Kraken.
Right after this on ninety three point three KJERFM.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
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Speaker 2 (25:01):
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now with our head coach, Dan Bilzma, Beer's, Safti and.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Jay Welcome back Wednesday evening. Getting set for cracking hockey.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Mike Benton will have the pre game for you in
just a few moments at the top of the hour.
But first we got to talk to the head man
to Seattle Kraken and led his team to another victory
last night, six to two in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Dan Bolsman joins us Hi coach, how.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Are you great sitting on the bench in Minnesota here
getting ready to play a game tonight. No or two
other people I'd rather talk to than you guys to
secure a win tonight.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Absolutely well, Safti's not with us today, he's busy golfing,
so it'll just be me. But we'll still we'll still
keep the streak alive because you got a four game
streak with at least a point after the win last night,
and heck, you're a Winnipeg overtime goal away from a
four game win streak.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So talk about what's clicking right now for you guys.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, I'm talking about playing our best hockey down the stretch.
The guys have taken upon themselves to have that focus
and I think it's great to see. We're seeing it
almost night in and night out now. The the pace
we're playing with, with speed we're playing with to get
into the offensive zone and play and you know, at
(26:26):
times dominating teams in the offensive zone, and you know,
it's a it's just happened now. Game game Montreal, Utah
Winnipeg was a great game against a great team. You
had a chance to to win. That one went overtime,
But you got to take the positives of of how
we played and we brought it into Chicago and kind
(26:47):
of you know, as the game went on, not the
greatest start for us, but we we bulldozed them in
the second period and that was great to see.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well, I think a lot of people that would would
just read the box score and they go, oh my god,
four goals the second period.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's where I got it. That's what got it done.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But let's talk about that goal at the end of
the first period by Adam Larson. You guys were dug
into a hole down to nothing. Do you potentially not
even have that outburst in the second period if you
don't get that Larson goal? And how did that change
kind of the locker room dynamic going into the second period?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
It was, it was big for us. I think the game,
you know, especially the first five minutes, didn't particularly start
out going our way. I'll say there was some felt
like a little bit of buck luck, but some bounces,
some some miscues, and you know, they got out to
the lead. And the power play power play was an
(27:41):
example of that. It was a puck whipped into the slot,
hit off a skate and goes by Joey. The second
one was a face off that they whipped the net
and got a tip in and you're staring now down
to nothing. Be it early in the game, but it
had to feel that it wasn't going our way. And
it wasn't just the goal that Lars scored there. We
(28:04):
had two or three chances there at the end of
the first period. But I think it was massive to
see the puck going the net for Lars, see the
puck going for the group there late in the period,
get us, you know, our mentality, our mindset, got us
back in the game. And we've come down from two
goals too many times this year. We know we can
do it. But that goal that early in the game
(28:26):
at the end of the first was just set the
stage for the last forty minutes and a.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Couple of goals for the youngster.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Shane Wright gets his career high minutes with with over seventeen.
Talk about what his minutes look like ideally going forward
now with him playing so well, Yeah, I think you.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Know, it's there's a there's a minute focus for a
lot of guys here going forward. I think, you know,
the Madi Veneer's line has been real key for us
going down the stretch here and trying, you know, producing
a top line. We want to continue that. We want
to continue Shane Wright, you know, stepping into the middle
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of the rank in a lot of different situations, power play,
you know, and be it a third fourth line. We
don't really have numbers on our team. But to see
him get the opportunity to get more minutes last night
was a big part of that game, and he cashed
in with you know, two goals, get back on the
(29:26):
score sheet, gives him seventeen goals on the year, gives
he reached the forty point mark. You know, just he
continues to grow and his minutes and role should continue
to grow well.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Minnesota to Night.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
By the way, Jaden Schwartz's eight hundredth career NHL game tonight,
talk about what he means to you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Not so silent leader for our group. He's he's got
a rye personality and he's quick with wit. But he's
both in demeanor and in action and a word. He's
been a big leader for this group this year, especially
in the absence of Jordan Everly for such a long
period of time. He's he's got a seasoned pro about him.
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He's got a real good idea we want to play
and how it should be done. And he's a vocal
He's a quiet I see, he's leads with his demeanor,
but he's he's a big voice in that dressing room.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Coach is gonna be fun to watch. It fun to
listen to you, you guys. You guys are playing a really
fun brand of hockey right now. And let's make it
five games in a row with a point and four
out of five wins.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
How about that.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I love it. Let's do it and we can continue
to talk. I know we missed a beat there with
the one point in Winnipeg, but right now this conversation
is got our team going.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, we're rolling a little bit, aren't we. I love it.
I love it. Keep it going. Thanks coaching, We'll talk
to you next week.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Good luck, all right, all right, thank you you bet
Speaker 1 (30:51):
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perfectly into crack and pregame with our friend Mike Benton
coming up next on ninety three point three kJ RFM
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