June 17, 2025 • 35 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain and Jackson Felts react to the Mariners sweep of Cleveland, where we stand on the Julio Rodriguez debate, the hype for the Sonics when they return, the ending to the U.S. Open in golf, then have Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I like the fact that they just said they've had
enough of the criticism and all the chatter going on
that they're cooked and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And they went out and they won three games.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Against the you know, decent team, not a phenomenal team,
but a decent team, and the Guardians, but bouncing back,
and I mean, my god, you kind of just realize
what the Astros are doing the Mariners if they hadn't
swept the Guardians or drop two out of three, and
we're talking about a team that's five and a half,
six and a half games at a first place right now,
when the collapse is complete, By the way.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I hadn't realized that this morning.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Right So I'm watching as I do watching my internationalsenal
shows on the treadmill, you.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Can't get away, and I see the LP one you know,
I am a p one oculus.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And I see the MLB ticker go on, the standings
go down the bottom. I was like, ooh, let's see
how much the Mariners made up this weekend with the sweep. No, nothing,
nothing like wow. And then I did a little math.
The Astros are on pace for ninety three wins. Man, Right,
do we need to worry that this might actually be
a really good Astro team or are they just you know,
having a two to three week hotspell.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, they're they're They're eighteen and eighth in their last
twenty six games. The Astros are I mean they were
they were basically a five hundred team. Yeah, they were
twenty and twenty on the twelfth of May, and now
they're forty one and thirty. So they're a twenty one
and ten ball club in their last thirty one. I mean, look,
they're capable of it, right, there's no doubt. Are they
(01:23):
capable of winning ninety four ninety five games? Absolutely? Are
the Mariners capable of winning ninety six? Probably not, But
I will say this, I mean, you know, for those
out there that get mad you're being critical of how
dare you criticize our favorite players.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
And stop bashing Julio? You Julio Basher?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah you Julio.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, it's one of the other that I've learned, right,
And I saw this tweet from Larry Stone because you've
sent it to us over the weekend. By the way,
you got the same one Jackson from Dick over the weekend. Yeah,
that Larry Stone came out and said I'm gonna find this.
I'm gonna find this.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I was gonna tweet it out sarcastically and say who
is he talking about? But instead I just decided to
be nice. I'm like, it's a weekend, everybody's in a
good mood. I'm just gonna text it the Softian Jackson
was a.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Bad mood because the Pacers pissed away Game four. But
if you think that, I you're not implying that Larry
Stone tweeted that because of me, because there's no way
I have that kind of influence. Now, if he's talking
about maybe somebody else on the radio station, maybe somebody
else in the market, that's fine. But I do find
it funny, and I will just say this, And I
do think there is a gray area. I think people
tend to live in black and white and not gray.
(02:24):
You're either you're either got your head up Julio's ass,
or you're a basher and you're a hater.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
There's no in between.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
That's not just Julio, that's just sports talk in general.
Like you can't say, hey, you know, Julio has been
pretty good. He's been he's been good, very very good.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But he's not elite.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
He's not a he's not a guy that is an
aircraft carrier, is not a guy that seems to be
must see TV. He doesn't make pictures p down their
leg the way we thought he was gonna do at
this day of his career. But there's also how many
guys are like that in baseball? Maybe four or five
maybe honestly, I mean single digits potentially, right that, there's
not many guys like that.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And Julio's not one of them, though we do in
cal Rawley.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's it's it's possible that Julio Rodriguez is a very
good player, but he's also underachieved in relation to where
the expectations were when he signed his contract. I don't
know what that is so hard for people to understand.
But you want to pick a side, you want to
pick one or the other. I'd rather have Julio on
the baseball team than not. Okay, but Larry Stone comes
(03:24):
out and says, Julio bashers might be surprised to learn
he has caught cal in B wars that Baseball Reference
war and has tied for fourth among all MLB position players,
ahead of the likes of Otani and win well, two things.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Number One, Larry, Larry.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Did say what he was on with us on Wednesday,
and you can correct me if I'm wrong Jackson, that
if he had to vote in the poll we put out,
he would say that he has fallen short of that expectation.
Larry said that, So I think Larry's kind of playing
both sides of this point. I can't wait for our
conversation going after the bashers.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
But what are the bad the ones that voted fall short?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Because you said on the air, Larry, that he's falling short.
That's number one, number two ahead of Otani. Well, Otani
doesn't play the field at all. He's a dh that's right.
And part of the reason why Julio Rodriguez is having
a great year with War is because of his defense
or his offensive. War is not terrible. But you got
to include the defense. So Tani does not play the field. So,
(04:24):
for example, Jackson, I would ask you who would you
rather have on this baseball team, Shoil tane thing and
now he's pitching again, by the way, or would you
rather have Julio playing center and hitting second?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
For you, I would rather have shoal Ti. Of course
you would. Of course you would.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So it's another example of how war isn't everything.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's something.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I mean, eventually you got to rank these guys based
on some type of number, right, and war seems to
be the most commonly used number to rank these people,
just like QBR for quarterbacks in the NFL. But I
do think we've gotten to a point now with the
Julio Rodrigez thing. And maybe it is coincidence that we
talked about this last week and now everyone's writing about it.
(05:05):
I don't think it's going Hawkins wrote about it in
the newspaper. We know Hawkins is a is a secretly
stalker of this radio show. He listens to every minute
of every single show, puts his favorite T shirt on,
gets a cocktail, gets comfortable, lights.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
A candle, and flips us on the rack.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh yeah, like the forty year old virgin, puts down
the photos of the family and just stuggles in and
tunes into Softie Dickensaxson. We know he's doing that, so
he's writing about it. But we gotta have pick sides.
There's no one between guys, Jackson, Did we got pick sides?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
All right, I'm in I'm Leo Island. Are we all
in or are we all out? On Julio Rodriguez. There's
no there's no weasel options.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I don't want to I don't want a weasel option
because I've been I've been all in from the get go.
Because I blame I blame the expectations of fans as
more than I blame what Julio rod Reagan's has actually done.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Do you think the expectations right a whack from the start.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
He was twenty one years of age when he signed
that contract, right, and we were expecting him to be
top five in MVP every single year of the contract.
I mean that that, to me is out of whack expectations.
It's amazing to look at. The war means something to
me because it takes into consideration your whole game, and
(06:21):
Julio does save a lot of runs in the outfield.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Juliro Rigez's war.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Right now is almost a full point higher than Rafael Devers.
And let's just look at the old school statistics. Old
school statistics say Julio has ten home runs thirty four RBIs,
Rafael has fifteen home runs fifty eight RBIs, and yet
his war is almost a point lower than Julio's and
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in fact, Julio's war in the next three weeks is
going to equal what Devers did all of last season
at a three point seven.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So you should be his representation.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, I mean, I just think I think he's been
very good. Who's agent? I think he's very good. But
when you win, a.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Poll comes out and says has he met or failed
to meet expectations? You I look at the expectations being
wrong and not Julio necessarily underachieving as a baseball player.
But yes, you have to vote underachieving because the expectations
was he was gonna be ken Griffy Junior.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Part two. How many years is Julio had an ops
over eight hundred? Is it one year? One year over
eight hundred? In his career? He has head years.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
There is one year over age two years Rafaeld Devers
last five seasons eight ninety eight, eighty eight, fifty eight
seventy one at nine oh five.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That's his ops. All right. This is a guy that' said.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Thirty eight, twenty seven, thirty three, twenty eight, bomb, one
hundred and thirteen, eighty eight hundred and eighty three rbish
and he's playing a premium position obviously at DH offensively
that needs to perform. So look, I mean, I just
think that Devers has been the better player overall as
a hitter. We can argue Julio's defense over this kid.
I have no problem with that. But again, I mean,
(08:06):
if you want to just say the expectations, we're out
of whack Jackson, we gotta go back and we gotta
get the audio. On the day he signed his extension,
we were at Jimmy's and we got to go back
and listen to what we said.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I think Dick Baide is having.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Revisionist history of his own opinion from four years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think you were ready to proclaim this guy to
be a lock for the Hall of Fame. Four years
and we were all like that.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
We were all over here forgot about this because the
reality is, he signed his big contract at a point
where we had only seen I think comparatively a sliver
of the real Julio Rodriguez. Because we had seen him
go up against players who in pitchers who hadn't had
a whole, you know, three years to scout him and
figure out how to pitch him and all these things.
We had seen it completely different Julio Rodriguez, and the
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reality is players will just will change over time, players
will get figured out over time. So I'm with like,
the notations were way and listen, admittedly, we we all
were blinded by by that. We all we all could
and didn't have the foresight to say, guys, we shouldn't
have these massive expectations because we got to realize what
he's only done so far as X, Y Z and
(09:14):
what I just said. But at the end of the day,
we didn't have the foresight. We were just too over
the moon about what we had seen so far with Julio.
Now he can look back and say, yeah, those expectations
were way too high.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Considering all of that, what was our conversation to start this.
It wasn't the pole. Yeah, you brought something up prior
to the pole.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He just he just he just acknowledged all the Julio
bashing that happens. I was like, well, I'm not seeing
a lot of it. I mean, I see people that
are frustrated. The team at that point in time isn't
hitting well, and Julio is having a bad month of May,
he's having a good month of June. It's not driving
and runs by the way, but he's hitting well in June.
He's a singles hitter. Basically, he's basically, you know, that's
(09:58):
what he's turned into, at least this month. But he's
better than that. He will be better than that.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But it was Joe Fan.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Joe Fan, our old buddy, Joe Fan brought up on
Twitter that he was seeing a lot of Julio criticism
and I do think that there's maybe less out there
than people think. I think Julio was kind of one
of those guys that if somebody criticizes him or like, wow,
somebody's ripping Julio.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Right, always the vocal minority. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
It's like me and the NBA fans. Yes, like I
think every NBA. I think every person in Seattle hates
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Just because whatsoever the NBA will.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But I choose to believe that because it's fun, well
fits your nerves. I mean, I think the I think
the NBA is gonna kick ass. I actually said, I
want to know if you saweet Yeah, did you see
what I said? I saw you, I saw your tweet. Well,
I will admit that I had a couple of a
couple of cocktails. I think there should be a law
by the way against tweeting and drinking, like drinking and driving, right,
(10:51):
and just you know you can't if you're gonna go
on Twitter, you should have to blow into something before
you log in, right. I said when I said, when
they start playing again, the Sonics will be the biggest
thing in this town.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And it won't be close.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
People are going to go nuts. And that doesn't mean
they'll be the biggest thing for five years when they
come back. But I'm saying immediately when they come.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Back, there's gonna be when it's announced or when they
play the I think.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
When they play their first game, there's gonna be a grace.
Even then it's gonna be big. But when there's there's
gonna be a grace period of probably forty five to
sixty days.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Where everyone's gonna want to take it. Everyone's gonna want
to go. People will be begging to go to a game.
They'll be begging to get to the arena.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Longer than that.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Didn't the Krack and Wave last for like over eight
They'll be They'll be buying stuff. Jamie's gonna be a gazillionaire.
He's gonna retire after one year, he'll be done. He'll
never talk to us again. He'll be on a yacht
like in trading places. Right, it's gonna be amazing. I
think people are gonna lose their mind when.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
They come up.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I think you're exactly right, and it'll it'll overwhelm all
the vocal minority, which I think is bigger than it
actually it probably is.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But it'll be so fun. And I and I read that.
I read you say that night. How was the response.
I didn't read the responses. We're we're people generally in
agreement of you. Of like, okay, I freaking hate the NBA.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Are gonna go Bud Smith, your buddy Beds Bud Smith
at head Rancher eight. So after the NBA sucks, it'll
be fun to have them back. But they don't sniff
baseball or football Andrew Cameron Husky football and Seahawks reign supreme.
There'll be initial hype and it will be fun. However,
the NBA is horrible. Literally on watch there's my guys,
Bobby Reid, the next guy. The NBA isn't watchable in
(12:34):
my opinion, no defense traveling, just shooting threes. Brian hartin
that they killed the Sonics and our love for the
NBA will never be the same. Finally, Bryant Worthing chimed
in one hundred percent correct, Softy, we took six people.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
To my to my point, Jackson, to my point, Jackson,
focus on the vocal minority, Dick, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I mean, is it to my people?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Well, the people in the majority of you feel like
they need to have their voices heard exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That's the point.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yes, it's just as long as we know it's the majority,
that's that's I'm That's what I want to make sure.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
At ut Horsey, the NBA is a dying brand. At
Metal Tim one picture of some blonde whether Booby's hanging
out and saying no.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
I mean, like, listen, the people who call Twitter is
only full of negative replies people. The reality is very
very few positive people will do. What who's the guy
who's comming in positively?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Again, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
There you go, Yeah, people just don't do that.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
So yeah, again, my vocal minority.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I just think I don't know, man, I'm just I'm
telling you what I think. I only speak for me.
Thank God that it's going to be pandemonium when they return.
It's gonna be absolute pandemonium when they return. Raw Dog says,
possibly my worst take ever on Twitter, says raw Dog
ninety nine oh nine.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Sorry, I think it's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Sometimes we tweet something we don't get nine out of
ten negative responses.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
This is a heavy negative response, and that's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I mean, I I just think, you know, we we
tend to form our world based on what we see
on social media. Yes, because let's face it, how many
people if we just went out there, okay, wherever that is,
how many people do you bump into that are actually
on Twitter on social media? I think we think more
people are on this stupid app than we think.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
We I think we can probably get a better, a
more accurate response with a poll than with response, But
you're the responses are going to be negative.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
A poll should be actually more accurate.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
But how do we get an accurate response, never mind
as accurate.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
As we have to?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I think we have to talk to people, like literally
have to talk to people.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You have to, you have to be we have to
hire a staff of whoever to go out and interview
people and talk to them, Hey, what do you think
of you?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Side?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
For the NBA like Keeley over here the bar taker, Keeley,
are you excited for the potential return of the Sonics
in Seattle?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Does that excite you?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
She says yes, Okay, she said, she's not even in
the stupid demo. Are you a twenty five to fifty
four year old man? No, and she's fired up.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
She's mighty well, you never do. Here's my barometer.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Is that Half the time I go in for a
haircut and they say, oh, what are you doing? Well,
I'm you KJR. Half the time the question is when, oh,
is there?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Is there?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Basketball?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Is their news on the Sonics. People are very interested
in this. You just don't see it on social media.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, I'm totally Walliam, totally Waitia all right, whatever they're wrong,
we're right. Three twenty is the time. A lot to
get to, including humail and at four little fun with Audio.
John Wilner is going to hop on today because we
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Speaker 3 (16:25):
What has you to know?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That is Dan Hicks calling jj spawns near sixty five
foot birdie putts to win the US Open at Oakmont yesterday.
And I appreciate Dan letting the visual speak for itself.
I think a lot of people are now taking the
direction of Jim Nantz by the way right when he
let that moment, you know, live at the Masters obviously
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earlier this year. But I think it's great when broadcasters
do that. It's not so great for radio, but it's
great when broadcasts. At the beginning of the.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Call, he said, I don't think we heard it there
he said home and too, he's gotta get Do we
hear that?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I couldn't know we did hear him say? How about
just in one? Yeah, go ahead and play it? What
the hell?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Go ahead, Let's try this again, all right? Play make
it two putts one?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So here's the thing, though, the gap between the two
putts and how about one was like ten seconds. That's
how long it was. That's the ball roll and that's
how long the putt was. That he had to wait
like an hour to be It's like, I'm not we
can't say anything. We're gonna We're gonna go get a
beer and come back, and the ball is still gonna
be rolling.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Obviously one of the biggest putts in US Open history,
if not major golf championship history. JJ Spahn, who I
was reading his daughter was up puking at like three
o'clock in the morning, and he had to go to
a CVS and get some drugs for and then goes
out and wins the damn US Open.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Isn't that caddy's job at that point?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
The night before the last round of the US Open,
especially when you got a shot to win, his wife
was with him right there. Would his wife say, you
know what, honey, I got this all right? You sleep,
I got this whatever. Who knows about their relationship. I
have no idea, but good for him, right he oh, yeah,
father of the Year. And he goes out and wins
the US Open of the same.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know, And and he was the only one that
didn't let the conditions bother him. Hatten was a mess.
Sam Burns had that situation where he thought he was
supposed to get relief from standing water. I didn't see
standing water, to be honest with you, on the telecast, right, obviously,
the first official didn't see standing water. And then he
asked for a second opinion. As soon as he asked
for a second opinion, I looked at Dixon. I was like,
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don't do that. Once they tell you no, get it
out of your mind and hit the shot. And he
went for a second opinion, and then they said no,
and he got even more upset, and then he shanked
the shot because he was up all in his head
and that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
May have cost him the rest of the round. And
so it was.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
It was a poor performance by the guys around JJ Spond.
But give JJ Spond credit because he had horrible luck
at the beginning of the round. Right, he had terrible
luck at the beginning of the round. He had that
he had that approach on that hit the pin and
rolled all the way back off the green forty yards
off the green. He ended up taking bogie instead of
getting birdie. But he was able to overcome it all
and hit that put.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
We've seen what the what the ratings look like by
the way for the weekend. Yeah, yeah, because I gotta
be totally honest with you. I I thought, I mean,
the drama was fun at the end between those guys,
but I thought the leaderboard sucked. I mean, looking up,
there's just no big names. I mean, it's just a
bunch of nobodies. I mean, Victor Hovlin, Fine, Terrell Hatton,
you've kind of heard of. But you know, I need
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to see more firepower at the top of the leaderboard.
Well open, that seems to be the theme of sports
right now.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, is that Oklahoma City?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So have we gotten to the point as sports fans
where good sports isn't enough.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
A great NBA Finals isn't enough because there's no megastars. No,
but it's always a great us O Open isn't enough
because there's no megastars.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
What do you mean gotten to a point? It's always
been like that?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Why do you think we've always said things like, man,
NBC is gonna love that matchup if that happens, or
Fox is gonna love that matchup.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
There's only one league that can overcome that, and that's
the NFL. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I mean, when you when you've got you know, terrible
matchups in the World Series, terrible matchups in the NBA Finals,
terrible matchups in the Stanley Cup Finals, a leaderboard that
doesn't include really any of the big names in golf.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Let's be totally honest with you.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's boring for most people because I think what happens,
guys is that when you're talking about a US Open
or a Masters, or a super Bowl or a World
Series or an NBA Finals, there's an expectation that ratings
are going to be gigantic, right for those big events. Well,
part of the expectation is because you're attracting non mainstream fans,
you're attracting Johnny cum Lately's and you can't attract Johnny
(20:51):
cum latelies when jj spawn is at the top of
the leader board. It's just not gonna do it enough.
You've got Scotti Scheffler going up against John Rahm. Scheffler
versus Rory back in the day was Tiger. Obviously, the
Johnny cum Lately's and the P three's and the P fours,
not the P ones are gonna be there. So I mean,
it was just kind of a bummer for me that
there weren't more big names with the top eight. Good
(21:13):
for him, it was awesome to see him drain that putt.
That was really fun. But I do think really it
kind of reminds me of a conversation we had a
while back, guys of what is your dream walk off scenario?
I mean, maybe it's different if you're talking about like
an individual sport, like you're playing golf or your playing
you know, you know, billiard's or darts or whatever. You're
(21:37):
doing something by yourself. But if you've got a dream
walkoff scenario for your favorite sports team, what is that
dream walk off scenario? Because the sixty five foot birdie
putt to win the US Open in an individual sport
would be right there at the damn top.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I mean for me, I just have to default to
the sports that I play, right, I Mean I can't
envision myself off hitting a walk off home run to
win the World Series because I never picked up.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I'm talking about not just for you, but also for
your favorite teams, Like what would make you go the
most nuts? Oh I thought you met like I was participating.
Could be anything you participating or one of your favorite teams.
Like I'll just tell you my answer, Okay, just to
kind of just paint the picture here, Jackson, I think
if you told me that the Washington Huskies were playing
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in the National Championship game and they were down twenty
four to twenty or excuse me, Yeah, they're down twenty
four to twenty and they had a pick six, a
ninety nine yard pick six to win the game twenty
seven to twenty four.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I mean, I hate to mention it because it makes
me sick that Kenny Waton.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Obviously, if the Huskies had a National championship situation like
that where they won the game on a pick six,
maybe if we do the accurate score.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Let's say they're leading.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Let's say they're leading twenty four to twenty and the
opposing team pass the ball at the ten yard line,
drop back to pass picked off at the one, he's
gonna take it all the way, and the Huskies win
thirty one to twenty games over a pick six, a
walk off pick six to win a Super Bowl or
to win a national championship game, Jackson, that gets me excited.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah, I think that's the most reasonable thing for me.
It's already happened, the Sounders winning a penalty kick shootout
to win MLS Cup, because it happened in twenty sixteen.
It's just mean, you just up the tournament to go
Club World Cup. If you want to ring the soccer world,
that's what it is. I mean Baseball obviously it's it's
you going, Joe Carter, It's it's you know, the ninth
game signs at home. I mean like it's it's pretty
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easy to spell it out in each in each of
your sports.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, for me, it would be one of It would
be one of two situations, because it would be the
two teams around here that have not gotten to a championship,
not won a championship. It would either be a walk
off home run to win the World Series in games
seve at home at home, right, what would have to
have to be home for a walk off, Or it
would be the Washington Husky basketball team in their first
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ever national championship game hitting a three of the buzzers.
It would for me it would have to be that
because I've seen a Super Bowl, I've seen a football
national championship. You know, we've seen the MLS Cups, We've
seen the Storm win titles, we've seen all these. We
haven't seen those two things, and so for me, I
would be I mean, I'd be tremendously excited for any
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of my teams to win a championship, But the ones
that I haven't seen before, I think those go to the.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Top of the list.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, a walk off home run Game seven off of
the hit here cafe.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And the and the lights explod and the glass the
glass explodes like the natural light, like the natural Whether
it's Julio cow Rawley, JP, I mean whoever. I mean,
the bigger the name, obviously, the more it might resonate
with people. But I think something like that. I just
think of Cam Chancer was picked six to beat the
Panthers in the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
What year was that? Was that? Twenty fourteen?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Was that the year that January? Cam Chanceler run faster?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Well, I've never seen him run faster.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I've also never seen him hang out in the end
zone for as long as he did before his teammates
got there.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It took him forever. The same thing with Malcolm Smith.
It took him forever to get to the end zone
because he was so by himself.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But I know that wasn't a true walk off because
there was time left on the clock that ended that
essentially ended the game against Cam Newton. So just imagine
something like that happening for the Seahawks in a Super
Bowl or the Huskies or the Cougars and you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I mean that to me, like, we don't have that
yet in this city.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Right we have Edgar Martinez doubled in Game five of
the first round of ninety five.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
That's what we have, right, I mean, that's what.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
I want to say. Jermaine curse is the closest thing
we end. It's pretty but it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
But it didn't. But it didn't. It didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Oh, I mean the Packers talking about the game against
the Patriots, not no question. I mean, that was pretty
damn good for sure. But but that's that's that that probably,
when you factor in the size of the moment, is
the most clutched that's.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Got to be. It's a great different bracket. Almost your
main curses on there.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Edgar Martinez his double is on there, Carloski ends butt
against the White Sox would be on there. You know,
things like that, you know, I mean, I don't know, dude,
I just think we we are so starving for another
moment like that. If it is your main curse, then
that was that was eleven years ago. Pretty good, right, Listen,
I mean it's time, dude, eleven damn For how.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Long did it take a Seattle sports team to give
a moment in a in a conference? It literally got
the team of trophy, right, Like anything that has a
trophy on the line for me is just so.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It took the It took the city, yeah, to get
that moment.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
So like, I don't know if we're due for one again,
intermal moment in a game that gets you a trophy.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
We're due.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
We're doing man, all right, three, you know, like we're
doing soft. He would say, we're doing it happened forty
eight months ago.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That's very true.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
His pace is not quite as well as it wasn't
forty eight months it was how many years ago now, eleven?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, but Jack point it was forty years in the making.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
So we're gonna so we're gonna hold our standards to
our own miserable existence for the previous year.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Of course they did.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
They felt way short.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
The Mariner's short sonictly, what nba cha, I mean, we're
gonna have Jack squad compared to a lot of towns
out there?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I'm not gonna sit around and see because we were
just kind of mediocre and every now and then played
for a title.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's not the standards for.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
How often those walkoffs in title games happened.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
It's not often.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Okay, then I would just settle for playing for a
championship again. That's fine, okay, fine.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Three four, thank you, three forty one.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
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Speaker 2 (27:47):
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Speaker 3 (27:51):
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fun with audio. Slash hated you hear that?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Hey, Dick? Did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
We start in baseball? The Nationals are on an eight
game losing streak. I forgetting swept by the Marlins last weekend.
On Saturday, after losing their seventh in a row, Nats
manager Dave Martinez was asked about his team's lack of offense,
and make sure the blame for the struggle lands on
the players and not on the coaches.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Never on coaching, Never on coaching. Okay, coaches work their
asses off every single day. We're not going to figure
a point in here and say it's coaches. It's never
on the coaches. Okay, they work hard. You know, the
message is clear, all the work is done prior. So uh,
sometimes you know, they got to go out there. They
got to play the game. It's always been about the
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players always, you know. Sometimes you know, and the players know.
Sometimes you know, you gotta put on the players. They
got to go out there and they got to play
the game and play the game the right way. You know,
we can't we can't hit for them, we can't catch
the ball for them, we can't pitch for them, we
can't throw strikes for them.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
They got to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I think it's a chicken craft response. Horrible leader and
fires us right now. If I were the owner of
the Nationals fire.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Them, fine playing for them like screw you can be.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Like up yours. Well, guess what, Dave, They're not going
to fire the players. They're going to fire the manager first. Well,
and also maybe some coaches before you.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
You're you're proving the already widely thought belief that baseball
managers aren't worth Well, that's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
It's like, okay, if it's always the players on why
are you here? Yeah, what's the point of you if
it's always the players? I mean, look, if it was
a guy too that accomplished anything as a manager, like
lou Panella would say, don't blame me or don't ask me,
ask the players.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, lou Panella had won a World Series. This guy
had done jack squat.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I mean, we think about it.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
What a bum like?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
An absolutely terrible leader.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
So if the if Dave Softy Mallery was on the
Seahawks sideline, right on the headset and had to call
a game right, what how much less would the Seahawks
have a chance to win that game?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Right? If?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
And then if Mike.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
McDonald was there, but you could show up in the
Mariner dugout, you could right the lineup card and they
could still have a really good shot to win a
baseball game.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Let me crack myself.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Martinez did win the title with them in twenty nineteen,
So I want to I want to mention that, but
I just think it's a horrible response. I thought you
were gonna say is Can you ever imagine Pete Carroll
saying something like that or not?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Don't blame me, blame them?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And that sounds like a guy that knows he's on
the way out. That's just I mean, you're right if
I were a player for that guy. Whatever up yours? Dude, unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
What a weak ass response by a skipper.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
ESPN Sunday Night Baseball broadcasting in LA last night for
the Dodgers Giants game when night ers, when San Francisco
stunningly traded for Red Sox in field of Rafael Devers.
The broadcast crew then got the instant reaction from a
micd up Clayton Pershaw.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, how about that trade?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That's wild. Buster's really doing it. Not only Buster, Posey's
really doing it over there.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Good, you know, good for Buster man. He's going for it.
You know, I don't even know what they gave up.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I know Harrison was supposed to pitch today, so he's
and he's he's a good one.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
He's a good one.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
But uh, yeah, Kyle Harrison was in the deal. Tim's
was in the deal.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
But okay, because he was a Florida State star.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Okay, okay, I don't care about college. I don't care
about college.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Hicks was in the deal. He was the thirteenth pick
in the draft. That's all you needed.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I still don't care. But Geordie Hicks a good picture.
He's he's solid, So I get that. I'm with you. Yeah,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I think it's great. Good for him, good for him.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Who was the guy that saw excuse me, JJ spond
sixty five footer at the podium with the media you
said yesterday.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Who's watching him? Yeah, Bob mcint Bobby McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I mean, when you get like reaction like that, the
other thing, it would have made it better as if
they were interviewing a Dodger, excuse me, a Giant or
a Red Sox player, like doing a Boston game.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
By the way, you know that Rafael just got traded.
What huh?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
That would have been awesome?
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
No, I mean I think it's a good look. I
mean for San Francisco, good for them. I just I
wonder if this is a deal that you would have
made if you're a Mariner fan. You know, he's talking
to Andrews about this off the year, Emerson, Hancock, Carlos Vargas,
couple of minor leaguers for Rafael Devers. I mean I
probably would have made that trade for an established guy. Yeah,
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I would have done that.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I mean, would you have done that?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
You wouldn't have hated I'm not a fan of taking
on a quarter of a billion dollars here, recif well,
especially for guys that a guy that doesn't play defense
and is not in good shape, Like the guy is
twenty eight, but his body's more like thirty five.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
So you got to ask the question.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
He's an unbelievable he is, but you got to ask
the question if his body's thirty five, Now, how many
more years of this type of offense is he is
he going to produce?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I mean, can he give you three or four more
years of this? And you're paying him for ten? So
what you win a World Series. Who cares? Maybe if
you do.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I mean, you're trying to combine his skill with hopefully
you're starting pitching kicking ass again and marry those two
things together. I would have made that trade to Harpy,
Absolutely made that trade to Harpy for for for a
guy that's in the back end of your rotation that
I think is going to be good but hasn't really
proven much over the long haul. Versus I mean the well, then, okay,
one spot that you're dying for as the days the.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Designated in Let me ask the obvious question more think, yes,
then why did they not have to give up.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So much for him?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
What? Probably because of the money being good, but that's okay,
and his body and he doesn't play default. But again,
just because they didn't give up Well, first of all,
they gave up a decent amount for him. I mean,
you're you're you're trading an established starting pitcher and I
don't know what these prospects, I don't know who they
are what they gave up for him. But just because
a team complains about the money doesn't mean it's right
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to complain about the money. I mean, nobody should ever
bitch about money in baseball. The money that Rafield Evers
is making right now is going to be Jack squatting
four years from now.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Right, But he's nothing. But the problem with him is
he's blocking other players.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Because they let him do that. That's on them because
of his salary you're talking about. Well, and just doesn't
because he can't play third and he can't play first.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
But he's one.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
He's maybe the best DH in baseball though, right, I
mean obviously Otani he is in the National League.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
He's one of the best daches in baseball.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
But a worth three hundred million dollars, that's the course
if he performs like that. Yes, I would never complain
about money in baseball. I don't give a damn how
much guys are making in baseball. You let guys contracts
get in the way of other players, and that's on
you as an ownership group for being too stupid and
too cheap in my opinion, Let's get one more, Hey, Dick,
did you he gotta go?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Oh geez, all right, Hugh Melon's gonna join next On
ninety three to three KJRFM,
I like the fact that they just said they've had
enough of the criticism and all the chatter going on
that they're cooked and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And they went out and they won three games.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Against the you know, decent team, not a phenomenal team,
but a decent team, and the Guardians, but bouncing back,
and I mean, my god, you kind of just realize
what the Astros are doing the Mariners if they hadn't
swept the Guardians or drop two out of three, and
we're talking about a team that's five and a half,
six and a half games at a first place right now,
when the collapse is complete, By the way.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I hadn't realized that this morning.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Right So I'm watching as I do watching my internationalsenal
shows on the treadmill, you.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Can't get away, and I see the LP one you know,
I am a p one oculus.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And I see the MLB ticker go on, the standings
go down the bottom. I was like, ooh, let's see
how much the Mariners made up this weekend with the sweep. No, nothing,
nothing like wow. And then I did a little math.
The Astros are on pace for ninety three wins. Man, Right,
do we need to worry that this might actually be
a really good Astro team or are they just you know,
having a two to three week hotspell.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, they're they're They're eighteen and eighth in their last
twenty six games. The Astros are I mean they were
they were basically a five hundred team. Yeah, they were
twenty and twenty on the twelfth of May, and now
they're forty one and thirty. So they're a twenty one
and ten ball club in their last thirty one. I mean, look,
they're capable of it, right, there's no doubt. Are they
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capable of winning ninety four ninety five games? Absolutely? Are
the Mariners capable of winning ninety six? Probably not, But
I will say this, I mean, you know, for those
out there that get mad you're being critical of how
dare you criticize our favorite players.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
And stop bashing Julio? You Julio Basher?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah you Julio.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, it's one of the other that I've learned, right,
And I saw this tweet from Larry Stone because you've
sent it to us over the weekend. By the way,
you got the same one Jackson from Dick over the weekend. Yeah,
that Larry Stone came out and said I'm gonna find this.
I'm gonna find this.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I was gonna tweet it out sarcastically and say who
is he talking about? But instead I just decided to
be nice. I'm like, it's a weekend, everybody's in a
good mood. I'm just gonna text it the Softian Jackson
was a.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Bad mood because the Pacers pissed away Game four. But
if you think that, I you're not implying that Larry
Stone tweeted that because of me, because there's no way
I have that kind of influence. Now, if he's talking
about maybe somebody else on the radio station, maybe somebody
else in the market, that's fine. But I do find
it funny, and I will just say this, And I
do think there is a gray area. I think people
tend to live in black and white and not gray.
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You're either you're either got your head up Julio's ass,
or you're a basher and you're a hater.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
There's no in between.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
That's not just Julio, that's just sports talk in general.
Like you can't say, hey, you know, Julio has been
pretty good. He's been he's been good, very very good.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But he's not elite.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
He's not a he's not a guy that is an
aircraft carrier, is not a guy that seems to be
must see TV. He doesn't make pictures p down their
leg the way we thought he was gonna do at
this day of his career. But there's also how many
guys are like that in baseball? Maybe four or five
maybe honestly, I mean single digits potentially, right that, there's
not many guys like that.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And Julio's not one of them, though we do in
cal Rawley.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's it's it's possible that Julio Rodriguez is a very
good player, but he's also underachieved in relation to where
the expectations were when he signed his contract. I don't
know what that is so hard for people to understand.
But you want to pick a side, you want to
pick one or the other. I'd rather have Julio on
the baseball team than not. Okay, but Larry Stone comes
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out and says, Julio bashers might be surprised to learn
he has caught cal in B wars that Baseball Reference
war and has tied for fourth among all MLB position players,
ahead of the likes of Otani and win well, two things.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Number One, Larry, Larry.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Did say what he was on with us on Wednesday,
and you can correct me if I'm wrong Jackson, that
if he had to vote in the poll we put out,
he would say that he has fallen short of that expectation.
Larry said that, So I think Larry's kind of playing
both sides of this point. I can't wait for our
conversation going after the bashers.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
But what are the bad the ones that voted fall short?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Because you said on the air, Larry, that he's falling short.
That's number one, number two ahead of Otani. Well, Otani
doesn't play the field at all. He's a dh that's right.
And part of the reason why Julio Rodriguez is having
a great year with War is because of his defense
or his offensive. War is not terrible. But you got
to include the defense. So Tani does not play the field. So,
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for example, Jackson, I would ask you who would you
rather have on this baseball team, Shoil tane thing and
now he's pitching again, by the way, or would you
rather have Julio playing center and hitting second?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
For you, I would rather have shoal Ti. Of course
you would. Of course you would.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So it's another example of how war isn't everything.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's something.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I mean, eventually you got to rank these guys based
on some type of number, right, and war seems to
be the most commonly used number to rank these people,
just like QBR for quarterbacks in the NFL. But I
do think we've gotten to a point now with the
Julio Rodrigez thing. And maybe it is coincidence that we
talked about this last week and now everyone's writing about it.
(05:05):
I don't think it's going Hawkins wrote about it in
the newspaper. We know Hawkins is a is a secretly
stalker of this radio show. He listens to every minute
of every single show, puts his favorite T shirt on,
gets a cocktail, gets comfortable, lights.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
A candle, and flips us on the rack.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh yeah, like the forty year old virgin, puts down
the photos of the family and just stuggles in and
tunes into Softie Dickensaxson. We know he's doing that, so
he's writing about it. But we gotta have pick sides.
There's no one between guys, Jackson, Did we got pick sides?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
All right, I'm in I'm Leo Island. Are we all
in or are we all out? On Julio Rodriguez. There's
no there's no weasel options.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I don't want to I don't want a weasel option
because I've been I've been all in from the get go.
Because I blame I blame the expectations of fans as
more than I blame what Julio rod Reagan's has actually done.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Do you think the expectations right a whack from the start.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
He was twenty one years of age when he signed
that contract, right, and we were expecting him to be
top five in MVP every single year of the contract.
I mean that that, to me is out of whack expectations.
It's amazing to look at. The war means something to
me because it takes into consideration your whole game, and
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Julio does save a lot of runs in the outfield.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Juliro Rigez's war.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Right now is almost a full point higher than Rafael Devers.
And let's just look at the old school statistics. Old
school statistics say Julio has ten home runs thirty four RBIs,
Rafael has fifteen home runs fifty eight RBIs, and yet
his war is almost a point lower than Julio's and
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in fact, Julio's war in the next three weeks is
going to equal what Devers did all of last season
at a three point seven.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So you should be his representation.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, I mean, I just think I think he's been
very good. Who's agent? I think he's very good. But
when you win, a.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Poll comes out and says has he met or failed
to meet expectations? You I look at the expectations being
wrong and not Julio necessarily underachieving as a baseball player.
But yes, you have to vote underachieving because the expectations
was he was gonna be ken Griffy Junior.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Part two. How many years is Julio had an ops
over eight hundred? Is it one year? One year over
eight hundred? In his career? He has head years.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
There is one year over age two years Rafaeld Devers
last five seasons eight ninety eight, eighty eight, fifty eight
seventy one at nine oh five.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That's his ops. All right. This is a guy that' said.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Thirty eight, twenty seven, thirty three, twenty eight, bomb, one
hundred and thirteen, eighty eight hundred and eighty three rbish
and he's playing a premium position obviously at DH offensively
that needs to perform. So look, I mean, I just
think that Devers has been the better player overall as
a hitter. We can argue Julio's defense over this kid.
I have no problem with that. But again, I mean,
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if you want to just say the expectations, we're out
of whack Jackson, we gotta go back and we gotta
get the audio. On the day he signed his extension,
we were at Jimmy's and we got to go back
and listen to what we said.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I think Dick Baide is having.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Revisionist history of his own opinion from four years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think you were ready to proclaim this guy to
be a lock for the Hall of Fame. Four years
and we were all like that.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
We were all over here forgot about this because the
reality is, he signed his big contract at a point
where we had only seen I think comparatively a sliver
of the real Julio Rodriguez. Because we had seen him
go up against players who in pitchers who hadn't had
a whole, you know, three years to scout him and
figure out how to pitch him and all these things.
We had seen it completely different Julio Rodriguez, and the
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reality is players will just will change over time, players
will get figured out over time. So I'm with like,
the notations were way and listen, admittedly, we we all
were blinded by by that. We all we all could
and didn't have the foresight to say, guys, we shouldn't
have these massive expectations because we got to realize what
he's only done so far as X, Y Z and
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what I just said. But at the end of the day,
we didn't have the foresight. We were just too over
the moon about what we had seen so far with Julio.
Now he can look back and say, yeah, those expectations
were way too high.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Considering all of that, what was our conversation to start this.
It wasn't the pole. Yeah, you brought something up prior
to the pole.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He just he just he just acknowledged all the Julio
bashing that happens. I was like, well, I'm not seeing
a lot of it. I mean, I see people that
are frustrated. The team at that point in time isn't
hitting well, and Julio is having a bad month of May,
he's having a good month of June. It's not driving
and runs by the way, but he's hitting well in June.
He's a singles hitter. Basically, he's basically, you know, that's
(09:58):
what he's turned into, at least this month. But he's
better than that. He will be better than that.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But it was Joe Fan.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Joe Fan, our old buddy, Joe Fan brought up on
Twitter that he was seeing a lot of Julio criticism
and I do think that there's maybe less out there
than people think. I think Julio was kind of one
of those guys that if somebody criticizes him or like, wow,
somebody's ripping Julio.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Right, always the vocal minority. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
It's like me and the NBA fans. Yes, like I
think every NBA. I think every person in Seattle hates
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Just because whatsoever the NBA will.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But I choose to believe that because it's fun, well
fits your nerves. I mean, I think the I think
the NBA is gonna kick ass. I actually said, I
want to know if you saweet Yeah, did you see
what I said? I saw you, I saw your tweet. Well,
I will admit that I had a couple of a
couple of cocktails. I think there should be a law
by the way against tweeting and drinking, like drinking and driving, right,
(10:51):
and just you know you can't if you're gonna go
on Twitter, you should have to blow into something before
you log in, right. I said when I said, when
they start playing again, the Sonics will be the biggest
thing in this town.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And it won't be close.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
People are going to go nuts. And that doesn't mean
they'll be the biggest thing for five years when they
come back. But I'm saying immediately when they come.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Back, there's gonna be when it's announced or when they
play the I think.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
When they play their first game, there's gonna be a grace.
Even then it's gonna be big. But when there's there's
gonna be a grace period of probably forty five to
sixty days.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Where everyone's gonna want to take it. Everyone's gonna want
to go. People will be begging to go to a game.
They'll be begging to get to the arena.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Longer than that.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Didn't the Krack and Wave last for like over eight
They'll be They'll be buying stuff. Jamie's gonna be a gazillionaire.
He's gonna retire after one year, he'll be done. He'll
never talk to us again. He'll be on a yacht
like in trading places. Right, it's gonna be amazing. I
think people are gonna lose their mind when.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
They come up.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I think you're exactly right, and it'll it'll overwhelm all
the vocal minority, which I think is bigger than it
actually it probably is.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But it'll be so fun. And I and I read that.
I read you say that night. How was the response.
I didn't read the responses. We're we're people generally in
agreement of you. Of like, okay, I freaking hate the NBA.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Are gonna go Bud Smith, your buddy Beds Bud Smith
at head Rancher eight. So after the NBA sucks, it'll
be fun to have them back. But they don't sniff
baseball or football Andrew Cameron Husky football and Seahawks reign supreme.
There'll be initial hype and it will be fun. However,
the NBA is horrible. Literally on watch there's my guys,
Bobby Reid, the next guy. The NBA isn't watchable in
(12:34):
my opinion, no defense traveling, just shooting threes. Brian hartin
that they killed the Sonics and our love for the
NBA will never be the same. Finally, Bryant Worthing chimed
in one hundred percent correct, Softy, we took six people.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
To my to my point, Jackson, to my point, Jackson,
focus on the vocal minority, Dick, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I mean, is it to my people?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Well, the people in the majority of you feel like
they need to have their voices heard exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That's the point.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yes, it's just as long as we know it's the majority,
that's that's I'm That's what I want to make sure.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
At ut Horsey, the NBA is a dying brand. At
Metal Tim one picture of some blonde whether Booby's hanging
out and saying no.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
I mean, like, listen, the people who call Twitter is
only full of negative replies people. The reality is very
very few positive people will do. What who's the guy
who's comming in positively?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Again, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
There you go, Yeah, people just don't do that.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
So yeah, again, my vocal minority.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I just think I don't know, man, I'm just I'm
telling you what I think. I only speak for me.
Thank God that it's going to be pandemonium when they return.
It's gonna be absolute pandemonium when they return. Raw Dog says,
possibly my worst take ever on Twitter, says raw Dog
ninety nine oh nine.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Sorry, I think it's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Sometimes we tweet something we don't get nine out of
ten negative responses.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
This is a heavy negative response, and that's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I mean, I I just think, you know, we we
tend to form our world based on what we see
on social media. Yes, because let's face it, how many
people if we just went out there, okay, wherever that is,
how many people do you bump into that are actually
on Twitter on social media? I think we think more
people are on this stupid app than we think.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
We I think we can probably get a better, a
more accurate response with a poll than with response, But
you're the responses are going to be negative.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
A poll should be actually more accurate.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
But how do we get an accurate response, never mind
as accurate.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
As we have to?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I think we have to talk to people, like literally
have to talk to people.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You have to, you have to be we have to
hire a staff of whoever to go out and interview
people and talk to them, Hey, what do you think
of you?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Side?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
For the NBA like Keeley over here the bar taker, Keeley,
are you excited for the potential return of the Sonics
in Seattle?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Does that excite you?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
She says yes, Okay, she said, she's not even in
the stupid demo. Are you a twenty five to fifty
four year old man? No, and she's fired up.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
She's mighty well, you never do. Here's my barometer.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Is that Half the time I go in for a
haircut and they say, oh, what are you doing? Well,
I'm you KJR. Half the time the question is when, oh,
is there?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Is there?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Basketball?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Is their news on the Sonics. People are very interested
in this. You just don't see it on social media.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, I'm totally Walliam, totally Waitia all right, whatever they're wrong,
we're right. Three twenty is the time. A lot to
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Speaker 3 (16:25):
What has you to know?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That is Dan Hicks calling jj spawns near sixty five
foot birdie putts to win the US Open at Oakmont yesterday.
And I appreciate Dan letting the visual speak for itself.
I think a lot of people are now taking the
direction of Jim Nantz by the way right when he
let that moment, you know, live at the Masters obviously
(16:48):
earlier this year. But I think it's great when broadcasters
do that. It's not so great for radio, but it's
great when broadcasts. At the beginning of the.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Call, he said, I don't think we heard it there
he said home and too, he's gotta get Do we
hear that?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I couldn't know we did hear him say? How about
just in one? Yeah, go ahead and play it? What
the hell?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Go ahead, Let's try this again, all right? Play make
it two putts one?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So here's the thing, though, the gap between the two
putts and how about one was like ten seconds. That's
how long it was. That's the ball roll and that's
how long the putt was. That he had to wait
like an hour to be It's like, I'm not we
can't say anything. We're gonna We're gonna go get a
beer and come back, and the ball is still gonna
be rolling.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Obviously one of the biggest putts in US Open history,
if not major golf championship history. JJ Spahn, who I
was reading his daughter was up puking at like three
o'clock in the morning, and he had to go to
a CVS and get some drugs for and then goes
out and wins the damn US Open.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Isn't that caddy's job at that point?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
The night before the last round of the US Open,
especially when you got a shot to win, his wife
was with him right there. Would his wife say, you
know what, honey, I got this all right? You sleep,
I got this whatever. Who knows about their relationship. I
have no idea, but good for him, right he oh, yeah,
father of the Year. And he goes out and wins
the US Open of the same.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know, And and he was the only one that
didn't let the conditions bother him. Hatten was a mess.
Sam Burns had that situation where he thought he was
supposed to get relief from standing water. I didn't see
standing water, to be honest with you, on the telecast, right, obviously,
the first official didn't see standing water. And then he
asked for a second opinion. As soon as he asked
for a second opinion, I looked at Dixon. I was like,
(18:35):
don't do that. Once they tell you no, get it
out of your mind and hit the shot. And he
went for a second opinion, and then they said no,
and he got even more upset, and then he shanked
the shot because he was up all in his head
and that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
May have cost him the rest of the round. And
so it was.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
It was a poor performance by the guys around JJ Spond.
But give JJ Spond credit because he had horrible luck
at the beginning of the round. Right, he had terrible
luck at the beginning of the round. He had that
he had that approach on that hit the pin and
rolled all the way back off the green forty yards
off the green. He ended up taking bogie instead of
getting birdie. But he was able to overcome it all
and hit that put.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
We've seen what the what the ratings look like by
the way for the weekend. Yeah, yeah, because I gotta
be totally honest with you. I I thought, I mean,
the drama was fun at the end between those guys,
but I thought the leaderboard sucked. I mean, looking up,
there's just no big names. I mean, it's just a
bunch of nobodies. I mean, Victor Hovlin, Fine, Terrell Hatton,
you've kind of heard of. But you know, I need
(19:36):
to see more firepower at the top of the leaderboard.
Well open, that seems to be the theme of sports
right now.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, is that Oklahoma City?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So have we gotten to the point as sports fans
where good sports isn't enough.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
A great NBA Finals isn't enough because there's no megastars. No,
but it's always a great us O Open isn't enough
because there's no megastars.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
What do you mean gotten to a point? It's always
been like that?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Why do you think we've always said things like, man,
NBC is gonna love that matchup if that happens, or
Fox is gonna love that matchup.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
There's only one league that can overcome that, and that's
the NFL. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I mean, when you when you've got you know, terrible
matchups in the World Series, terrible matchups in the NBA Finals,
terrible matchups in the Stanley Cup Finals, a leaderboard that
doesn't include really any of the big names in golf.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Let's be totally honest with you.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's boring for most people because I think what happens,
guys is that when you're talking about a US Open
or a Masters, or a super Bowl or a World
Series or an NBA Finals, there's an expectation that ratings
are going to be gigantic, right for those big events. Well,
part of the expectation is because you're attracting non mainstream fans,
you're attracting Johnny cum Lately's and you can't attract Johnny
(20:51):
cum latelies when jj spawn is at the top of
the leader board. It's just not gonna do it enough.
You've got Scotti Scheffler going up against John Rahm. Scheffler
versus Rory back in the day was Tiger. Obviously, the
Johnny cum Lately's and the P three's and the P fours,
not the P ones are gonna be there. So I mean,
it was just kind of a bummer for me that
there weren't more big names with the top eight. Good
(21:13):
for him, it was awesome to see him drain that putt.
That was really fun. But I do think really it
kind of reminds me of a conversation we had a
while back, guys of what is your dream walk off scenario?
I mean, maybe it's different if you're talking about like
an individual sport, like you're playing golf or your playing
you know, you know, billiard's or darts or whatever. You're
(21:37):
doing something by yourself. But if you've got a dream
walkoff scenario for your favorite sports team, what is that
dream walk off scenario? Because the sixty five foot birdie
putt to win the US Open in an individual sport
would be right there at the damn top.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I mean for me, I just have to default to
the sports that I play, right, I Mean I can't
envision myself off hitting a walk off home run to
win the World Series because I never picked up.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I'm talking about not just for you, but also for
your favorite teams, Like what would make you go the
most nuts? Oh I thought you met like I was participating.
Could be anything you participating or one of your favorite teams.
Like I'll just tell you my answer, Okay, just to
kind of just paint the picture here, Jackson, I think
if you told me that the Washington Huskies were playing
(22:23):
in the National Championship game and they were down twenty
four to twenty or excuse me, Yeah, they're down twenty
four to twenty and they had a pick six, a
ninety nine yard pick six to win the game twenty
seven to twenty four.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I mean, I hate to mention it because it makes
me sick that Kenny Waton.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Obviously, if the Huskies had a National championship situation like
that where they won the game on a pick six,
maybe if we do the accurate score.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Let's say they're leading.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Let's say they're leading twenty four to twenty and the
opposing team pass the ball at the ten yard line,
drop back to pass picked off at the one, he's
gonna take it all the way, and the Huskies win
thirty one to twenty games over a pick six, a
walk off pick six to win a Super Bowl or
to win a national championship game, Jackson, that gets me excited.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah, I think that's the most reasonable thing for me.
It's already happened, the Sounders winning a penalty kick shootout
to win MLS Cup, because it happened in twenty sixteen.
It's just mean, you just up the tournament to go
Club World Cup. If you want to ring the soccer world,
that's what it is. I mean Baseball obviously it's it's
you going, Joe Carter, It's it's you know, the ninth
game signs at home. I mean like it's it's pretty
(23:40):
easy to spell it out in each in each of
your sports.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, for me, it would be one of It would
be one of two situations, because it would be the
two teams around here that have not gotten to a championship,
not won a championship. It would either be a walk
off home run to win the World Series in games
seve at home at home, right, what would have to
have to be home for a walk off, Or it
would be the Washington Husky basketball team in their first
(24:06):
ever national championship game hitting a three of the buzzers.
It would for me it would have to be that
because I've seen a Super Bowl, I've seen a football
national championship. You know, we've seen the MLS Cups, We've
seen the Storm win titles, we've seen all these. We
haven't seen those two things, and so for me, I
would be I mean, I'd be tremendously excited for any
(24:28):
of my teams to win a championship, But the ones
that I haven't seen before, I think those go to the.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Top of the list.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, a walk off home run Game seven off of
the hit here cafe.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And the and the lights explod and the glass the
glass explodes like the natural light, like the natural Whether
it's Julio cow Rawley, JP, I mean whoever. I mean,
the bigger the name, obviously, the more it might resonate
with people. But I think something like that. I just
think of Cam Chancer was picked six to beat the
Panthers in the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
What year was that? Was that? Twenty fourteen?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Was that the year that January? Cam Chanceler run faster?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Well, I've never seen him run faster.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I've also never seen him hang out in the end
zone for as long as he did before his teammates
got there.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It took him forever. The same thing with Malcolm Smith.
It took him forever to get to the end zone
because he was so by himself.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But I know that wasn't a true walk off because
there was time left on the clock that ended that
essentially ended the game against Cam Newton. So just imagine
something like that happening for the Seahawks in a Super
Bowl or the Huskies or the Cougars and you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I mean that to me, like, we don't have that
yet in this city.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Right we have Edgar Martinez doubled in Game five of
the first round of ninety five.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
That's what we have, right, I mean, that's what.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
I want to say. Jermaine curse is the closest thing
we end. It's pretty but it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
But it didn't. But it didn't. It didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Oh, I mean the Packers talking about the game against
the Patriots, not no question. I mean, that was pretty
damn good for sure. But but that's that's that that probably,
when you factor in the size of the moment, is
the most clutched that's.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Got to be. It's a great different bracket. Almost your
main curses on there.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Edgar Martinez his double is on there, Carloski ends butt
against the White Sox would be on there. You know,
things like that, you know, I mean, I don't know, dude,
I just think we we are so starving for another
moment like that. If it is your main curse, then
that was that was eleven years ago. Pretty good, right, Listen,
I mean it's time, dude, eleven damn For how.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Long did it take a Seattle sports team to give
a moment in a in a conference? It literally got
the team of trophy, right, Like anything that has a
trophy on the line for me is just so.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It took the It took the city, yeah, to get
that moment.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
So like, I don't know if we're due for one again,
intermal moment in a game that gets you a trophy.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
We're due.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
We're doing man, all right, three, you know, like we're
doing soft. He would say, we're doing it happened forty
eight months ago.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That's very true.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
His pace is not quite as well as it wasn't
forty eight months it was how many years ago now, eleven?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, but Jack point it was forty years in the making.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
So we're gonna so we're gonna hold our standards to
our own miserable existence for the previous year.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Of course they did.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
They felt way short.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
The Mariner's short sonictly, what nba cha, I mean, we're
gonna have Jack squad compared to a lot of towns
out there?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I'm not gonna sit around and see because we were
just kind of mediocre and every now and then played
for a title.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's not the standards for.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
How often those walkoffs in title games happened.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
It's not often.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Okay, then I would just settle for playing for a
championship again. That's fine, okay, fine.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
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Speaker 2 (28:22):
Hey, Dick? Did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
We start in baseball? The Nationals are on an eight
game losing streak. I forgetting swept by the Marlins last weekend.
On Saturday, after losing their seventh in a row, Nats
manager Dave Martinez was asked about his team's lack of offense,
and make sure the blame for the struggle lands on
the players and not on the coaches.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Never on coaching, Never on coaching. Okay, coaches work their
asses off every single day. We're not going to figure
a point in here and say it's coaches. It's never
on the coaches. Okay, they work hard. You know, the
message is clear, all the work is done prior. So uh,
sometimes you know, they got to go out there. They
got to play the game. It's always been about the
(29:07):
players always, you know. Sometimes you know, and the players know.
Sometimes you know, you gotta put on the players. They
got to go out there and they got to play
the game and play the game the right way. You know,
we can't we can't hit for them, we can't catch
the ball for them, we can't pitch for them, we
can't throw strikes for them.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
They got to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I think it's a chicken craft response. Horrible leader and
fires us right now. If I were the owner of
the Nationals fire.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Them, fine playing for them like screw you can be.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Like up yours. Well, guess what, Dave, They're not going
to fire the players. They're going to fire the manager first. Well,
and also maybe some coaches before you.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
You're you're proving the already widely thought belief that baseball
managers aren't worth Well, that's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
It's like, okay, if it's always the players on why
are you here? Yeah, what's the point of you if
it's always the players? I mean, look, if it was
a guy too that accomplished anything as a manager, like
lou Panella would say, don't blame me or don't ask me,
ask the players.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, lou Panella had won a World Series. This guy
had done jack squat.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I mean, we think about it.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
What a bum like?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
An absolutely terrible leader.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
So if the if Dave Softy Mallery was on the
Seahawks sideline, right on the headset and had to call
a game right, what how much less would the Seahawks
have a chance to win that game?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Right? If?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
And then if Mike.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
McDonald was there, but you could show up in the
Mariner dugout, you could right the lineup card and they
could still have a really good shot to win a
baseball game.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Let me crack myself.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Martinez did win the title with them in twenty nineteen,
So I want to I want to mention that, but
I just think it's a horrible response. I thought you
were gonna say is Can you ever imagine Pete Carroll
saying something like that or not?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Don't blame me, blame them?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And that sounds like a guy that knows he's on
the way out. That's just I mean, you're right if
I were a player for that guy. Whatever up yours? Dude, unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
What a weak ass response by a skipper.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
ESPN Sunday Night Baseball broadcasting in LA last night for
the Dodgers Giants game when night ers, when San Francisco
stunningly traded for Red Sox in field of Rafael Devers.
The broadcast crew then got the instant reaction from a
micd up Clayton Pershaw.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, how about that trade?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That's wild. Buster's really doing it. Not only Buster, Posey's
really doing it over there.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Good, you know, good for Buster man. He's going for it.
You know, I don't even know what they gave up.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I know Harrison was supposed to pitch today, so he's
and he's he's a good one.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
He's a good one.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
But uh, yeah, Kyle Harrison was in the deal. Tim's
was in the deal.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
But okay, because he was a Florida State star.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Okay, okay, I don't care about college. I don't care
about college.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Hicks was in the deal. He was the thirteenth pick
in the draft. That's all you needed.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I still don't care. But Geordie Hicks a good picture.
He's he's solid, So I get that. I'm with you. Yeah,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I think it's great. Good for him, good for him.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Who was the guy that saw excuse me, JJ spond
sixty five footer at the podium with the media you
said yesterday.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Who's watching him? Yeah, Bob mcint Bobby McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I mean, when you get like reaction like that, the
other thing, it would have made it better as if
they were interviewing a Dodger, excuse me, a Giant or
a Red Sox player, like doing a Boston game.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
By the way, you know that Rafael just got traded.
What huh?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
That would have been awesome?
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
No, I mean I think it's a good look. I
mean for San Francisco, good for them. I just I
wonder if this is a deal that you would have
made if you're a Mariner fan. You know, he's talking
to Andrews about this off the year, Emerson, Hancock, Carlos Vargas,
couple of minor leaguers for Rafael Devers. I mean I
probably would have made that trade for an established guy. Yeah,
(32:41):
I would have done that.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I mean, would you have done that?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
You wouldn't have hated I'm not a fan of taking
on a quarter of a billion dollars here, recif well,
especially for guys that a guy that doesn't play defense
and is not in good shape, Like the guy is
twenty eight, but his body's more like thirty five.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
So you got to ask the question.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
He's an unbelievable he is, but you got to ask
the question if his body's thirty five, Now, how many
more years of this type of offense is he is
he going to produce?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I mean, can he give you three or four more
years of this? And you're paying him for ten? So
what you win a World Series. Who cares? Maybe if
you do.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I mean, you're trying to combine his skill with hopefully
you're starting pitching kicking ass again and marry those two
things together. I would have made that trade to Harpy,
Absolutely made that trade to Harpy for for for a
guy that's in the back end of your rotation that
I think is going to be good but hasn't really
proven much over the long haul. Versus I mean the well, then, okay,
one spot that you're dying for as the days the.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Designated in Let me ask the obvious question more think, yes,
then why did they not have to give up.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So much for him?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
What? Probably because of the money being good, but that's okay,
and his body and he doesn't play default. But again,
just because they didn't give up Well, first of all,
they gave up a decent amount for him. I mean,
you're you're you're trading an established starting pitcher and I
don't know what these prospects, I don't know who they
are what they gave up for him. But just because
a team complains about the money doesn't mean it's right
(34:04):
to complain about the money. I mean, nobody should ever
bitch about money in baseball. The money that Rafield Evers
is making right now is going to be Jack squatting
four years from now.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Right, But he's nothing. But the problem with him is
he's blocking other players.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Because they let him do that. That's on them because
of his salary you're talking about. Well, and just doesn't
because he can't play third and he can't play first.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
But he's one.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
He's maybe the best DH in baseball though, right, I
mean obviously Otani he is in the National League.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
He's one of the best daches in baseball.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
But a worth three hundred million dollars, that's the course
if he performs like that. Yes, I would never complain
about money in baseball. I don't give a damn how
much guys are making in baseball. You let guys contracts
get in the way of other players, and that's on
you as an ownership group for being too stupid and
too cheap in my opinion, Let's get one more, Hey, Dick,
did you he gotta go?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Oh geez, all right, Hugh Melon's gonna join next On
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