August 29, 2024 • 34 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Bret Boone about the Mariners hanging in the AL West race and Dan Wilson taking over, then talk to Isaiah Stanback about the Huskies football season starting before reacting to a Mariners rant.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming to you live from our Elliot Avenue studios of
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. It's time for
our weekly conversation with former Mariners all star Brett Boone,
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
He is our buddy, Brett Boone. Booney, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Not much, not much, it feels like it's been a minute.
You were on last Thursday. I mean you were on
last week when Dan Wilson got the job, Scotty's servis
got fired. What do you make of the job that
Dan the man's done four and two so far?
Speaker 5 (01:16):
What do you think l fourn two? Yeah, I mean
I expected against the teams they're playing right now. I
expect that with that team, that pitching staff. Huh. This
is one of those things we talked about it last week.
I think as far as Dan, Dan has nothing to lose,
is everything to gain if they make a big run,
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come back and heroically get into the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
But I think Dan he's.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
As steady as they come. It's yeah, I stand by
what I said last week. I think it's a good move.
I think he's the right man, right time, right place.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
When you watch this baseball team offensively, do you see
any I tried not to.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Somebody put that on Twit.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Now killing me.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
When you watch this offense, I try not to, Oh
my god.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That was awesome.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
When you watch this offense under Dan Wilson, do you
see anything different whatsoever than you saw on your scout service.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
No, it's these these guys. They're big league players, a
lot of them. There's a lot of experience sprinkled throughout
that lineup, and you know some guys with not so
much experience. But they're not going to change. They're still
out there trying to get hits, trying to score runs.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
It's like they are.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
And Danny. The reason I like Dany he realizes how
hard this game, especially on the offensive side. So he's
not you know, coming in out you guys, you aren't
executing offensive but he knows how hard it is. His
job is to set a tone in the locker room
kind of, hey, then your ears back and let's go
for this. You know, Edgar's down there is another calling
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presence you got. You know, Edgar Martinez one of the
greatest hit not only in Maritor history, one of the
greatest right handed hitters of the of the recent times.
He's in there. He's he's a sounding board for these guys.
You know, I talked to Edgar reg before he went
in there. He's getting this stuff together. He said, yeah,
booneg got five weeks. I'm gonna go in there and
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try to come up with a program and some ideas
for these guys.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
But even I've been through.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
You know, through my career, there were so many hitting
coaches and it's just not always the answer. And as
great as Edgar Can is as a hitter, that doesn't
mean he's going to come in and fix hitters. It
doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I had one of the greatest and most respected hitting
coaches in two thousand and four, and Paul Malader I
probably told this story before. PAULI great hitter, you know,
thirty something undred hits. He's a guy you come out
to b PE early to watch hit and I did
that when I was when I was a young player.
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You know, fast fall two thousand and four, Melvin brings
him in. He's my hitting coach, and I love this guy.
Class at Hall of Famer. We get through the entire season.
Oh four, I had a decent year. I think I
d twenty five homers.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And but it wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
It didn't live up to the three. And we were
doing our flips and it was the last week. We
were making last minute uh pushes for certain stats, and
I remember Paulie flipping balls to me and he goes booneye,
he goes, I'll tell you what. When I played, I
could get a hit. I said, Paul, I watch you.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I know you get hit.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
He goes, problem is, I can't help you get a
hit and we both started laughing. And it is hitting
is so it's such an art and it's so individual
that it's you know, everybody doesn't click with everybody else.
I mean Gerald Williams. I'll give you an example. Gerald
Williams came to Seattle, didn't get along with a lot
of the hitters. I loved him because it wasn't the
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physical it was the things he would say to me
at the right time where it would someone would click.
And I'd look at him and I'm like smart enough
to tell me that he had a way about He
had a way about him that worked with me individually.
That doesn't mean he works for everyday. Lee Elia had
a way about him with me individually. Lee could rattle
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something loose in my brain when it was all corrupted
with bad swings and and Lee would say something to
me in passing and keep walking and I go wow,
and he would give me hope.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
It would give me this.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Next to bat, I got a chance where thirty seconds
go before he walked by I had no chance mentally,
and all of a sudden, I So it's it's not magic,
it's just it's an individual thing amongst individuals. So my
point is Edgar's one of the great and one of
my great friends in the game and helped me a
ton on the offensive side, But it doesn't mean he's
a magic man that's.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Going to come in well, boonies with us and Brett
Dick and I the other day, we're looking at their
schedule and obviously, look, if you're playing bad baseball, doesn't
matter who you're playing, because the M's have had a
favorable run here for a while and they haven't been
able to take advantage of it. As a matter of fact,
that's gone the opposite way. But Houston's got twenty nine
games left, sixteen of them are against plus five hundred teams.
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Mariners have twenty eight games left, eight of them or
against plus five hundred teams. So we figure if the
Astros go fifteen and fourteen, the Mariners have to go
eighteen and ten with one of those wins against Houston
to win the tie breaker, and they win the division.
So do we feel confident more about the Mariners turning
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this around and going eighteen and ten or the Astros
going fifteen and fourteen.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I think either could happen. The only thing with the
Astros that I think soon you're getting Tucker back, You
just got nearest back in the bullpen, Forerlanders back, So
they're almost going at full capacity. And I think because
they were down and out a couple months ago and
they flipped the script, I think a mental and a
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in a confident level, Houston's feeling good about themselves because
I think when they were ten, when they were ten
games down and looking at that Mariner pitching staff, they
probably internally were thinking, Wow, maybe this is the year
our run ends. And all of a sudden they find
themselves in first place. So they're a pretty confident bunch
over there. And also they have as much experience in
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postseason and winning experience in that group as anybody out there.
So that's the negative for going in Seattle's favor. Seattle's
got Casey Cincy Arizona and who they got coming up
at home Oakland. I'll tell you what, Casey is as
hot as they come. They've made a run right now,
find themselves right there knocking on Cleveland's door they're tough
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right now. They're gonna be a tough opponent right now.
And Arizona is as hot as anybody too them in
San Diego, they've gained on the Dodgers and they're knocking
on the Dodgers. So two of the next four real tough.
But after that, you're right, You've got Cincy, you got Oakland,
and then you're gonna have, you know, a pre soft schedule.
But you know, we talked about this before. The soft
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schedule is always dangerous when you take it that way, like, oh,
we're playing these guys, so we're just gonna throw it
out there and win. No, this is these are dangerous
times in September because those who you look on the schedule,
you got some September call ups. You got teams that
are down and out and aren't going anywhere. Man, their
whole season's beating your butt and sending you home. And
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have you missed the playoffs? The key for the Mariners
is they have to just be within striking distance. When
you get to I think it's September twenty third, they
got a three game series with the Houston Astros. You're
in striking You're in striking distance. When you get there,
then it's in your hands. But all is for not
if you don't. And right now, the scoreboard wide, you
can't do any of that. You got to take care
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of business at home. Whatever happens over there happens over there.
You just got to win games and not worry about
if Houston lose his games.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Boonie, you mentioned earlier that Dan's got nothing to lose,
and you may very well be right. He might be
one hundred percent safe. I'm just thinking, if they don't
make the playoffs and Jerry Depoto gets fired, is Dan
still safe?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I uh if if?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Well, I mean a lot of a lot of prerequisites there. Okay,
if the Poto gets fired, which means Stanton would have
fired him, I still think, uh, Stanton his relationship Dan Wilson.
He wants Dan Wilson, But I don't know how the
the the inner workings of that front office are. You know, Uh,
if you hire another general manager, and especially if you
hired and experienced general manager.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You want to hire the manager right right.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
He's like, hey, I need to have some rain here
if you're going to bring in a big name general manager.
So all those things change with circumstances. So right now,
Jerry isn't fired. Jerry isn't and he is the general
manager the team or the president or whatever the heading
we're putting on him. Right now, he makes the decisions.
So until you get to a point and you find
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out who you're hiring and all that stuff, Jerry Depoto's
the demand in charge. And and right now I don't
I don't think dance managing like, oh I really want
to manage, so I get to manage next year. I
think Dan is just coming in doing the best job
you can and trying to calm that clubhouse and try
to catch, you know, try to catch lightning in a bottle.
That's why Edgar's there too, is the guy that people
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love and you know, fresh face. It's a fresh face
at the helm. It's a fresh face in that coaches
room and interesting dynamic. But they're four and two so far,
and you know we're you got a month to play
with your hair on fire.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, I'll tell you what, Brett one more for me.
Dick and I were going to bring this up yesterday
and just ran out of time. What the hell is
going on with Julio Rodriguez?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Man?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I mean he had the home run yesterday, so hopefully
starting to kind of turn some around. But here we are,
September is coming to a close, and the guy has
twelve bombs and forty two. Ribby's extra base hits are
way down. He's ever since he came off the il,
which is since the eleventh of August, he's not hitting
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the ball. He's got a one ninety average and a
five fifteen one ops And I mean, this just isn't working.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It's five months and it's just not clicking for him.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Why it's you know, I think that may be the
one thing that is going to be really positive for Julio.
I know Julio has a really good rapport with Edgar,
and Edgar might have some ideas for him. I mentioned
earlier about three weeks ago. I think Julio's gotten to
a point where where and it happens because I've been
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through seasons where what is going wrong with my hitting?
And it's sometimes it's just a subtle thing, but it
turns into a mental thing. Especially when you're young and
you don't have that experience, you start to you start
to question yourself. As you get more time in the
game and you have some tough years and some mediocre
years and some great years. When that tough stretch comes along,
you have experience where you can go back and go
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remember when it was in nineteen ninety six and I
was going through that. I came out of it because
I did that. So you start to believe when you're
a young player and you've never struggled like this before.
Julio's never struggled, you're starting to question yourself. No matter
how great your skill set is, you just can't help
I mean, we're all as big league baseball players and hitters,
we have this persona that we're just so confident and
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sure of ourselves. Well, we're as insecure as the next guy,
I mean, and you just got to go through the
battles and the war of life and what we do
as hitters to really to kind of get a callous
for it, you know, to Okay, I remember last time
this happened. This is what I did. And there are
some humbling times in this game. Believe me, I've been
through them. It's just the fact that he hasn't really
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gone through a tough stretch probably in his entire career,
starting with the minor league. So this is the first
time for him and Humble Pie. This game will give
it to you. Julio's skill set's too good for it
to last too long. But you're right five months when
the franchise is kind of banking on you to be
the guy that rock in the middle of that lineup.
It's tough, but he's young. I think Edgar is the
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best thing for him right now that I see with him.
And I'll keep it simple. I'm not the hitting coach.
He's gotten his top hand too involved. It's two top
hand dominant. His barrel is not in the zone for
a very long time. He's foulling off a lot of pitches,
swinging and missing a lot of pitches because his barrel's
not staying through the zone as long as it needs to.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
I'll wrap things up with the guy that can hit,
Actually two guys that can hit. Aaron Judge has he
is going to say today play for us. No, we're
not talking about the Mariners anymore. Aaron Judge has one
hundred and fifty two home runs in his last four
hundred and thirty seven games. I mean that is more
than one every three games. And I'm wondering, I'm wondering
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when we look bad number again, one hundred and fifty
two in four hundred and thirty seven games.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Wow, I mean when we look back at Aaron Judge
and Show Hao Time Show he's going to have a
fifty to fifty season, Maybe, who are we going to
look back on, Well, he's forty two, forty two right now?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, could happen.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah, I mean I'm not I'm not gonna you know,
with this show Hey, guy, he's done things I never
thought were possible. So you're right, I'm not gonna doubt
I would give Judge a better chance hitting sixty than
Show he has hitting fifty.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You heard it here, Okay, now it's fair. Who are
we going to look back on fifteen years from now
and say the greatest player this generation was?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Well?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I think I think if show Hey gets back on
the mound and it's dominant on the bound in a
one or two starter, I don't think he even think it's
an argument. No matter how great Judge is. If Otani
just plays really good on an all star level, not
an MVP level offensively, and pitches like a number one
or a number two, it's just not fair because he's
still in the role of two all star players. So
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you have to go with show Hey Otanic because it's
never been done before. If we're strictly talking offense, Aaron
Judge what he's doing right now. I haven't seen this
kind of dominance since Bonds. When I played against Bonds,
the greatest of all time, and I'd watch him the
second best player, and there were a lot of great
players in Kenny and Manny Ramirez and Big Pop. Just
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go down the list of great, great run producers and players,
it was Bond's and that second guy. There was a
walmart in between him and the second best player. I
think Aaron Judge is the closest thing we've seen that
in his greatest show Hey Otani is. Yes, he adds
the speed element as well, but I think just strictly
as a hitter, I think Aaron Judge is the best
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player in Major League Baseball, and I think there's a
big gap between before you get to number two, and
you can make the argument show Hayes number two, Shoto's
number two with juniors making a case that he's in
the conversation, but I think it's Aaron Judge, And then
I think there's everybody else that fights for second place
right now, kind of like Bond's and it's the first
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time we've seen it since Bont's. Watching Judge is unbelievable.
I mean, he's playing, he's playing a video game right now,
and he's hitting three thirty. It's not like he's hitting
two eighty six. He's hitting three thirty three in a
time in an era where nobody's hitting three thirty three,
and really impressively he's doing it. He's got twenty more
ribbies than the next guy in either league.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, you want to argue Judge is a hitter, that's fine,
but as a player, it's not close Otani is. Because
Otani's he's going to go fifty to fifty and then
he's going to start twenty five games with a two
and a half yard I mean, you kidding me, not there.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
But he's he's uh, I don't know, he's returning punts,
he's on the kickoff teams, quarterback, and as a defensive bat,
how do you compete for that?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Totally? All right, man, great stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Hopefully we'll have a team very much in contention still
by next thursday.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Uh I love it.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And we're talking a week.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And if we don't, we're gonna half out right now
correct and if we don't, you're telling loose stories.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I believe me.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
I know when to start freshing about on the loose stories.
I think this week I would say four and two.
I said, Dad, they don't want to talk about lou yet.
I thought you were going to talk about a rose
arena visiting the visiting locker room. But we didn't get to.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Let's do that next week. We're late for a break.
We'll talk next week. All right, thanks again, man.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Brett Boone with us. We're gonna break.
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Speaker 3 (17:25):
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Speaker 2 (19:30):
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How are you, man, Man, I'm good.
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Let's get to hear from you guys.
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I was just with Sonny and Q guinnin day was
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Speaker 4 (19:53):
I was gonna catch up with my guys.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, I was telling Jackson off the air that I
missed the Craig Chambers hil Mary because I was at
seth e It's wedding in New York. That's like the
one play of your career that I did not get
to see.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
But here you are twenty whatever years later, and we're
sitting here talking about a NFL Network analyst. Man, So
congrats on that. On the new job number one and
then number two. Dude, Dick and I have been debating
the last couple of days about what we got here
in Seattle. We'll talk about your cowboys down there as well.
But when you think about Geno Smith and the league
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thinks about Geno Smith, what do you think the Seahawks
have in their quarterback?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Now, what's your take on where this guy sits on
the list of quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
I think Geno's always flew under the radar, and I
think that's a good thing from his stance because of
the fact there's not a lot of highest spectations.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
People aren't necessarily looking to him.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
They're looking at a lot of the other big name
guys that are on the roster, looking at the new
hey coach and seeing exactly what he's going to do.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
So he's able just.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
To be himself, be true to to himself, and can
go out there and be what he's always been, which
is a consistent player. Obviously, Seattle re upped him for
a reason. He was able to make some plays and
now he's back, obviously with a full onslot of of
of a roster in terms of guy's weapons at his disposal.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Kenneth Walker to third. You got DK, you got Tyler,
you got all those guys out.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
There he could throw too, and you got a new
OC who's Seattle's very familiar with.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So looking forward to seeing what we can do this year.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Well, you've mentioned DK, and you got all these receivers
Isaiah making you know, thirty plus million dollars a year.
DK is going to want to be on that list,
But DK doesn't nearly have the numbers that those guys do.
Whether he has the talent or not, I'm going to
leave that up to you. Does DK have the talent
and potential to be up there with the Jamar Chases
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and the Justin Jeffersons of the world.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Absolutely, They just have to figure it out offensively, and
I think with the new oc up there, they're going
to be distributing the ball all over the place. He
just didn't have the opportunities that he's been afforded to
him in the past. So DK obviously is one of
the most, you know, the greatest athletes in the league
of a physical specimen. Obviously he's one of the biggest.
He's one of the fastest in the in the league
at that position. I mean, it is just a matter
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of is there enough balls to get a round so
that he can actually get us touches.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, well, Isaiah stand back is with us. Ryan Grubb.
I know you met Ryan when he was at you
dub By the way.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Were you at the Natty against Michigan? Did I see
at that game?
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Absolutely? Yeah, I'm always repping you, dub Man. So if
I can get to a game, I'm there at the
pack Tweld Championship, I was a national championship.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I was at all of it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
So you saw Ryan Grubb's offense up till some personal
when he was at Washington. Now he's the offensive coordinator
for the Seahawks. What should fans expect out of this guy?
And what do you think his biggest transition point will
be going from college football to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I don't think he's gonna have a lot a lot
of troubles. I mean, obviously it just comes down to protection.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Can he handle things up front in terms of the
running game, can he position them in a good position
so that they can obviously have good down the distances.
But the one thing that I loved about him at
the University of Washington is everybody got the rocks. You
never knew who was going to get the rock at
any given play. It didn't matter what the situation was,
didn't matter what the down and distance was. He was
seemingly always somebody else that was gonna step up and
make the big play. And when you have the amount
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of talent that you have with the Seahawks right now.
Obviously with the three headed monster receiver of solid running back,
you know, obviously a gino spent at that quarterback.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
As long as they could get some protection up front. Yeah,
they're gonna be scoring points this year.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
So let's talk about the chances both in the NFC overall,
in the and the NFC West. How close are the
Hawks right now to beating down the Niners door.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I think they're very close. I mean, the Niners have
a lot of things going on.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Obviously, they just signed Brandon and I you finally got
that done today, so I mean there's a little bit
of ties that are being settled, but they've still missing
the big fellow over there on the left side in
terms of Trent Williams, whether that gets.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Done or not.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
I think they are emotionally just just done. I think
They've had a lot of a lot of success in
the regular season, obviously done well in the playoffs, but
they haven't walked away with the ring yet. So I
think they're they're kind of overwhelmed in that regard. I mean, eventually,
you know, the gas kind of just runs out, regardless
of the weapons that you have.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, well, Isaiah stand back as what us.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
He's now with the NFL Network, And you saw what
Dak Prescott said about Jerry Jones that he doesn't listen
to what he says in the media. You know, I mean,
you're down there in Texas, man, First of all, just
give us kind of the field, dude. Do Cowboy fans
want Dak Prescott re sign? Do they want him given
a gigantic contract? What do you think Cowboy Nation wants
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down there?
Speaker 8 (24:19):
I think Cowboys Nation definitely wants consistency. I think that
they understand that, you know, Dak hasn't necessarily Dak and
the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It's not just Dak. They haven't they haven't gotten the.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Results that they wanted in the post ethen but in
terms of just consistency at the quarterback position, there's only
a handful of other guys that can even match up
with him statistically what he's done in the league. So
when you look at it and say, Okay, do we
want to get the guy in one heck of an extension,
I think you're in a position.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Where you have to say, well, we have to still.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
The Dallas Cowboys are in a position where they have
to give Dak Prescott an extension, and I think he
will get his money. I've been predicting that it's gonna
happen between Friday, you know, tomorrow, or all the.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Way up to Wednesday of next week.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
But if they allow him to touch the field against
the Cleveland Browns without a contract, you can say bye
by to Dak because I can guarantee you there's a
dude DWN in Las Vegas who's really willing to open
up his checkbook.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Interesting, it's Mark Davis. You think this week they'll they'll
sign Dak? Okay, then how do the Cowboys compete for
a Super Bowl with three guys making one hundred and
thirty million dollars in Micah Parsons, Dak Prescott and CD Lamb?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
How did?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
How is that possible?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Considering when one of those three, Dak Prescott, I think
we would all agree is not an elite quarterback. Unless
you think he is an elite quarterback.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
You know what.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
I've been one of Deck's harshest critics over the years.
Trust me, I'll break down all the film. I see
everything he does good, everything that he struggles with and
I and as much as I've hesitated on putting him
in the upper echelon of quarterbacks. When you sit back
and look at his his body of work, you have
to when you look at the regular season, you have
to separate regular season in postseason. Regular season is dak
is staying there untouchable aside from you know, the year
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before last.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
By twenty twenty two.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
But this dude, he's a really quarterback and he struggled
with a handful of things. But as long as he
has his weapons out there and he has a solid
office line, which Dallas always makes sure that they have,
then he's in a good position to make some plays.
In terms of what these guys can do in the postseason,
I'm not sure how they know. No coach with us
spoken with has been able to put their finger on
why it is that they struggled in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
But the good thing is they've always positioned themselves for
the postseason. And that's more than most teams can say.
Three straight years of twelve wins. I mean, I don't
I don't know too many other teams that are doing that.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, Hey, how old are you now, by the.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Way, I mean, I just did forty forty.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So okay, so you were you were ten the last
time the Cowboys played in the NFC Championship gain. Just
so you know, Isaiah still back, man, Great to hear
your voice. Congrats on the new gig with the NFL Network,
and let's talk sooner.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Right buddy, Absolutely, man, you guys be good to thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You got it, man, Isaiah stand back with us. Did
you hear Joe Shehan going off on the Mariner ownership
the other day on Ian's radio show. You see what
Danny O'Neal road about Jerry Depoto the other day the
News Tribune. We'll get to all that next on ninety
three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR FM.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
By the way, update from the North Dakota State Colorado game,
fourteen to ten Buffalos. But North Dakota State has got
one hundred and sixty yards of offense.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
It's a good game.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
With fourteen minutes left in the second, Colorado has your
reading zero beef on the defensive, one none zone, then
none whatsoever. All right, we'll keep an eye on that
one let's see the Astros and the Royals no score
bottom three in Houston. Mariner's night off before they take
on the Angels and the first Italian born pitcher to
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start a game in baseball history, Sammy Aldigandy from a Verana.
We'll start tomorrow night for the Angels. The first Italian
to start a game of baseball ever, start against the Mariners.
Joe Shean, by the way, who joins E in every
week right from the Joe Shean newsletter. I haven't even
heard this yet. I purposely did not listen to this.
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I want to hear for the first time right now
on the air with Ian Furness yesterday and had this
to say about the current ownership situation in Seattle.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
It's frustrating because when you have a rotation like that,
just spend money. You're talking about thirty million dollars for
a rotation that's going to be worth sabermetrically speaking, what
twenty twenty five wins? And you want to break that
up and it's going in circles. If you tell me
they're going to trade Gilbert for a comparable hitter, like
I can get on board with that. Can you get
Riley Green and then also sign Anthony Santander and keep
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Randy or Rose Arena. But if you try Gilbert for
a hitter and then trade Randy rose Arena, who was
only going to make maybe eight nine million dollars next
year anyway, for you know, payroll relief, you're going in circles.
So you've replaced Rozarina with a hitter, and you're down,
and you're down a starting pitcher. You're just going in circles.
I don't get like I'm not rich. I work in
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sports media. There's no way I'm rich. If I owned
a baseball team. The marginal dollars I might lose don't
affect me at all. Tell me I'm gonna lose ten
million dollars a year for the next ad infinite. First
of all, i'm rich. I can afford it if I
own a baseball team. I can obviously afford that. If
I could afford to buy the team, I can afford
to pay the players. And even if I can't, I
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get ten years down the road, I sell the team,
and I've made all of those losses back because the
team appreciates at a ridiculous rate. So I've never understood this. Well,
you know, we have to treat it like a grocery
store where if we lose money, oh my god, the
kids might not eat. I am completely and excuse me
for going off here, but I'm completely sick of this
entire attitude to running a baseball team. If you're rich
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enough to buy the team, you're rich enough to pay
the players.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
So the reason why he says thirty million for the
rotation is because Luis Castillo's making twenty four million and
Gilbert wu Kirby and the other guys are making six
and a half seven million dollars. And I've said that
all year long, right, You've heard me say that many times,
that if there's ever a year to spend money, it's
right now, because you're paying your rotation, Jack Squat. This
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is a gift from the baseball gods to pay these
guys the amount of money that you're paying them. And
that's gonna change start next year when guys start going
to arbitration. I mean, Ryan Divish was on the Marine
Layer guys and said they might trade Logan Gilbert to
get the offense they're looking for and then maybe reroute
a rose arena somewhere else. I mean, that's been my
biggest fear that they're gonna have to trade pitching to
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get hitting because they won't pay for it and they
can't develop it. And that's gonna piss me off if
they have to move one of those guys to get
a bat. So that's number one, But number two it's
it's it's crazy to me, Dick how This year, more
than any other, You're starting to hear a lot of
national people that have an opinion on the Mariner ownership
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group and their approach to the game. And it's not
a positive one. This is not just something in an
echo chamber here in Seattle. This is now being talked
about across the car Well, this is this is their
litmus test right here. I mean, they can shut everybody
up by not doing exactly what Joshian's worried that they're
going to do. They can shut everybody up, and it's
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it is going to be actions by John stan That
is the only thing that is going to shut anybody up.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
He has got to sign these pictures now. Fortunately they're staggered, right.
He doesn't have to sign them all at the same time.
Signs one year, he signs won, the next year, won,
the next year, and in the meantime, the window is
now to build up your offense to win the World Series,
because four or five years from now, you're not going
to be able to no matter how much you spend.
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The Marriagers are not gonna be able to spend enough
to afford all the pitchers making thirty million dollars a
year plus having an offense. So you have to build
the offense to win a World Series now while you're
only paying one or two of your pictures instead of
all five of your pictures.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, I will just say this, I disagree with you
on the shut everybody up thing.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I get what you're saying. I think it's going to
take a lot more than that to shut everybody up.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Because I heard the everybody will shut up if they
go out and get Otani. Everybody will shut up if
they signed Corey Seeger or Marcus Simeon, and they did,
and they ignored that free agent class. So I think
we're way past shutting people up, honestly, like now we're
starting to give them credit for things they should be doing.
I mean, George Kirby and Logan Gilbert are both up
for arbitration at the end of this year. I think
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Miller's still a couple of years away, and these are
guys that you should sign. I mean, your franchise is
worth two point two billion dollars and you paid one
hundred and whatever million dollars for it. I mean that
number is going to go up and up and up
and up. So I just think we're way past that.
I'd like them to get rid of the team and
give it to somebody who really has a passion to
win a championship and will spend the appropriate dollars it
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takes to win. It drives me nuts that we live
in Seattle, Washington, one of the richest cities in the world,
and we are stuck with this cheap, tight WAT ownership.
Does that persist? I don't know, Maybe not, maybe not.
I mean, look again, it's.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
I mean it's great to say I want to sell
the team, but if the person doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Then what's the solution. I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I mean, it's one thing to go, hey Bomber buy
the team. Hey Bezos by the team, Hey Bill Gates
by the team, blah blah blah. But if those guys
don't have any interest, then whatever, And then you start
to get into a situation where you get guys that
aren't from here that buy the team, and then when
the lease is up on Tea Mobile Park, they talk
about moving blah blah blah. You get into that game, right,
So I just this is the stuff they should be doing.
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And they are who they are, right, Like, they knew
they had this great elite rotation, they knew they had
some really good young talent, and they still chose to
ignore the free agent market at that time when they're
paying these four guys six seven million dollars combined. So
look good for Joe Sheian for bringing it up. I mean,
this is stuff that a lot of us been saying
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now for decades, and it's just it's getting so tiresome, right,
it's getting so tiresome, dick every single year to say
the same stuff over and over again.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And I hope you're right.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I hope that these guys surprise us and say we're
not getting rid of anybody.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
We're gonna go out and we're.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Gonna pay what it takes to compliment these guys with
great offense. They haven't done it so far, Why would
we think they'll do it next year or the year
after that.
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
He is our buddy, Brett Boone. Booney, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Not much, not much, it feels like it's been a minute.
You were on last Thursday. I mean you were on
last week when Dan Wilson got the job, Scotty's servis
got fired. What do you make of the job that
Dan the man's done four and two so far?
Speaker 5 (01:16):
What do you think l fourn two? Yeah, I mean
I expected against the teams they're playing right now. I
expect that with that team, that pitching staff. Huh. This
is one of those things we talked about it last week.
I think as far as Dan, Dan has nothing to lose,
is everything to gain if they make a big run,
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come back and heroically get into the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
But I think Dan he's.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
As steady as they come. It's yeah, I stand by
what I said last week. I think it's a good move.
I think he's the right man, right time, right place.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
When you watch this baseball team offensively, do you see
any I tried not to.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Somebody put that on Twit.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Now killing me.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
When you watch this offense, I try not to, Oh
my god.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That was awesome.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
When you watch this offense under Dan Wilson, do you
see anything different whatsoever than you saw on your scout service.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
No, it's these these guys. They're big league players, a
lot of them. There's a lot of experience sprinkled throughout
that lineup, and you know some guys with not so
much experience. But they're not going to change. They're still
out there trying to get hits, trying to score runs.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
It's like they are.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
And Danny. The reason I like Dany he realizes how
hard this game, especially on the offensive side. So he's
not you know, coming in out you guys, you aren't
executing offensive but he knows how hard it is. His
job is to set a tone in the locker room
kind of, hey, then your ears back and let's go
for this. You know, Edgar's down there is another calling
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presence you got. You know, Edgar Martinez one of the
greatest hit not only in Maritor history, one of the
greatest right handed hitters of the of the recent times.
He's in there. He's he's a sounding board for these guys.
You know, I talked to Edgar reg before he went
in there. He's getting this stuff together. He said, yeah,
booneg got five weeks. I'm gonna go in there and
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try to come up with a program and some ideas
for these guys.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
But even I've been through.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
You know, through my career, there were so many hitting
coaches and it's just not always the answer. And as
great as Edgar Can is as a hitter, that doesn't
mean he's going to come in and fix hitters. It
doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I had one of the greatest and most respected hitting
coaches in two thousand and four, and Paul Malader I
probably told this story before. PAULI great hitter, you know,
thirty something undred hits. He's a guy you come out
to b PE early to watch hit and I did
that when I was when I was a young player.
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You know, fast fall two thousand and four, Melvin brings
him in. He's my hitting coach, and I love this guy.
Class at Hall of Famer. We get through the entire season.
Oh four, I had a decent year. I think I
d twenty five homers.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And but it wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
It didn't live up to the three. And we were
doing our flips and it was the last week. We
were making last minute uh pushes for certain stats, and
I remember Paulie flipping balls to me and he goes booneye,
he goes, I'll tell you what. When I played, I
could get a hit. I said, Paul, I watch you.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I know you get hit.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
He goes, problem is, I can't help you get a
hit and we both started laughing. And it is hitting
is so it's such an art and it's so individual
that it's you know, everybody doesn't click with everybody else.
I mean Gerald Williams. I'll give you an example. Gerald
Williams came to Seattle, didn't get along with a lot
of the hitters. I loved him because it wasn't the
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physical it was the things he would say to me
at the right time where it would someone would click.
And I'd look at him and I'm like smart enough
to tell me that he had a way about He
had a way about him that worked with me individually.
That doesn't mean he works for everyday. Lee Elia had
a way about him with me individually. Lee could rattle
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something loose in my brain when it was all corrupted
with bad swings and and Lee would say something to
me in passing and keep walking and I go wow,
and he would give me hope.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
It would give me this.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Next to bat, I got a chance where thirty seconds
go before he walked by I had no chance mentally,
and all of a sudden, I So it's it's not magic,
it's just it's an individual thing amongst individuals. So my
point is Edgar's one of the great and one of
my great friends in the game and helped me a
ton on the offensive side, But it doesn't mean he's
a magic man that's.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Going to come in well, boonies with us and Brett
Dick and I the other day, we're looking at their
schedule and obviously, look, if you're playing bad baseball, doesn't
matter who you're playing, because the M's have had a
favorable run here for a while and they haven't been
able to take advantage of it. As a matter of fact,
that's gone the opposite way. But Houston's got twenty nine
games left, sixteen of them are against plus five hundred teams.
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Mariners have twenty eight games left, eight of them or
against plus five hundred teams. So we figure if the
Astros go fifteen and fourteen, the Mariners have to go
eighteen and ten with one of those wins against Houston
to win the tie breaker, and they win the division.
So do we feel confident more about the Mariners turning
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this around and going eighteen and ten or the Astros
going fifteen and fourteen.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I think either could happen. The only thing with the
Astros that I think soon you're getting Tucker back, You
just got nearest back in the bullpen, Forerlanders back, So
they're almost going at full capacity. And I think because
they were down and out a couple months ago and
they flipped the script, I think a mental and a
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in a confident level, Houston's feeling good about themselves because
I think when they were ten, when they were ten
games down and looking at that Mariner pitching staff, they
probably internally were thinking, Wow, maybe this is the year
our run ends. And all of a sudden they find
themselves in first place. So they're a pretty confident bunch
over there. And also they have as much experience in
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postseason and winning experience in that group as anybody out there.
So that's the negative for going in Seattle's favor. Seattle's
got Casey Cincy Arizona and who they got coming up
at home Oakland. I'll tell you what, Casey is as
hot as they come. They've made a run right now,
find themselves right there knocking on Cleveland's door they're tough
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right now. They're gonna be a tough opponent right now.
And Arizona is as hot as anybody too them in
San Diego, they've gained on the Dodgers and they're knocking
on the Dodgers. So two of the next four real tough.
But after that, you're right, You've got Cincy, you got Oakland,
and then you're gonna have, you know, a pre soft schedule.
But you know, we talked about this before. The soft
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schedule is always dangerous when you take it that way, like, oh,
we're playing these guys, so we're just gonna throw it
out there and win. No, this is these are dangerous
times in September because those who you look on the schedule,
you got some September call ups. You got teams that
are down and out and aren't going anywhere. Man, their
whole season's beating your butt and sending you home. And
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have you missed the playoffs? The key for the Mariners
is they have to just be within striking distance. When
you get to I think it's September twenty third, they
got a three game series with the Houston Astros. You're
in striking You're in striking distance. When you get there,
then it's in your hands. But all is for not
if you don't. And right now, the scoreboard wide, you
can't do any of that. You got to take care
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of business at home. Whatever happens over there happens over there.
You just got to win games and not worry about
if Houston lose his games.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Boonie, you mentioned earlier that Dan's got nothing to lose,
and you may very well be right. He might be
one hundred percent safe. I'm just thinking, if they don't
make the playoffs and Jerry Depoto gets fired, is Dan
still safe?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I uh if if?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Well, I mean a lot of a lot of prerequisites there. Okay,
if the Poto gets fired, which means Stanton would have
fired him, I still think, uh, Stanton his relationship Dan Wilson.
He wants Dan Wilson, But I don't know how the
the the inner workings of that front office are. You know, Uh,
if you hire another general manager, and especially if you
hired and experienced general manager.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You want to hire the manager right right.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
He's like, hey, I need to have some rain here
if you're going to bring in a big name general manager.
So all those things change with circumstances. So right now,
Jerry isn't fired. Jerry isn't and he is the general
manager the team or the president or whatever the heading
we're putting on him. Right now, he makes the decisions.
So until you get to a point and you find
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out who you're hiring and all that stuff, Jerry Depoto's
the demand in charge. And and right now I don't
I don't think dance managing like, oh I really want
to manage, so I get to manage next year. I
think Dan is just coming in doing the best job
you can and trying to calm that clubhouse and try
to catch, you know, try to catch lightning in a bottle.
That's why Edgar's there too, is the guy that people
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love and you know, fresh face. It's a fresh face
at the helm. It's a fresh face in that coaches
room and interesting dynamic. But they're four and two so far,
and you know we're you got a month to play
with your hair on fire.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, I'll tell you what, Brett one more for me.
Dick and I were going to bring this up yesterday
and just ran out of time. What the hell is
going on with Julio Rodriguez?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Man?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I mean he had the home run yesterday, so hopefully
starting to kind of turn some around. But here we are,
September is coming to a close, and the guy has
twelve bombs and forty two. Ribby's extra base hits are
way down. He's ever since he came off the il,
which is since the eleventh of August, he's not hitting
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the ball. He's got a one ninety average and a
five fifteen one ops And I mean, this just isn't working.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It's five months and it's just not clicking for him.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Why it's you know, I think that may be the
one thing that is going to be really positive for Julio.
I know Julio has a really good rapport with Edgar,
and Edgar might have some ideas for him. I mentioned
earlier about three weeks ago. I think Julio's gotten to
a point where where and it happens because I've been
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through seasons where what is going wrong with my hitting?
And it's sometimes it's just a subtle thing, but it
turns into a mental thing. Especially when you're young and
you don't have that experience, you start to you start
to question yourself. As you get more time in the
game and you have some tough years and some mediocre
years and some great years. When that tough stretch comes along,
you have experience where you can go back and go
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remember when it was in nineteen ninety six and I
was going through that. I came out of it because
I did that. So you start to believe when you're
a young player and you've never struggled like this before.
Julio's never struggled, you're starting to question yourself. No matter
how great your skill set is, you just can't help
I mean, we're all as big league baseball players and hitters,
we have this persona that we're just so confident and
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sure of ourselves. Well, we're as insecure as the next guy,
I mean, and you just got to go through the
battles and the war of life and what we do
as hitters to really to kind of get a callous
for it, you know, to Okay, I remember last time
this happened. This is what I did. And there are
some humbling times in this game. Believe me, I've been
through them. It's just the fact that he hasn't really
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gone through a tough stretch probably in his entire career,
starting with the minor league. So this is the first
time for him and Humble Pie. This game will give
it to you. Julio's skill set's too good for it
to last too long. But you're right five months when
the franchise is kind of banking on you to be
the guy that rock in the middle of that lineup.
It's tough, but he's young. I think Edgar is the
(12:58):
best thing for him right now that I see with him.
And I'll keep it simple. I'm not the hitting coach.
He's gotten his top hand too involved. It's two top
hand dominant. His barrel is not in the zone for
a very long time. He's foulling off a lot of pitches,
swinging and missing a lot of pitches because his barrel's
not staying through the zone as long as it needs to.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
I'll wrap things up with the guy that can hit,
Actually two guys that can hit. Aaron Judge has he
is going to say today play for us. No, we're
not talking about the Mariners anymore. Aaron Judge has one
hundred and fifty two home runs in his last four
hundred and thirty seven games. I mean that is more
than one every three games. And I'm wondering, I'm wondering
(13:42):
when we look bad number again, one hundred and fifty
two in four hundred and thirty seven games.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Wow, I mean when we look back at Aaron Judge
and Show Hao Time Show he's going to have a
fifty to fifty season, Maybe, who are we going to
look back on, Well, he's forty two, forty two right now?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, could happen.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah, I mean I'm not I'm not gonna you know,
with this show Hey, guy, he's done things I never
thought were possible. So you're right, I'm not gonna doubt
I would give Judge a better chance hitting sixty than
Show he has hitting fifty.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You heard it here, Okay, now it's fair. Who are
we going to look back on fifteen years from now
and say the greatest player this generation was?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Well?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I think I think if show Hey gets back on
the mound and it's dominant on the bound in a
one or two starter, I don't think he even think it's
an argument. No matter how great Judge is. If Otani
just plays really good on an all star level, not
an MVP level offensively, and pitches like a number one
or a number two, it's just not fair because he's
still in the role of two all star players. So
(14:40):
you have to go with show Hey Otanic because it's
never been done before. If we're strictly talking offense, Aaron
Judge what he's doing right now. I haven't seen this
kind of dominance since Bonds. When I played against Bonds,
the greatest of all time, and I'd watch him the
second best player, and there were a lot of great
players in Kenny and Manny Ramirez and Big Pop. Just
(15:03):
go down the list of great, great run producers and players,
it was Bond's and that second guy. There was a
walmart in between him and the second best player. I
think Aaron Judge is the closest thing we've seen that
in his greatest show Hey Otani is. Yes, he adds
the speed element as well, but I think just strictly
as a hitter, I think Aaron Judge is the best
(15:24):
player in Major League Baseball, and I think there's a
big gap between before you get to number two, and
you can make the argument show Hayes number two, Shoto's
number two with juniors making a case that he's in
the conversation, but I think it's Aaron Judge, And then
I think there's everybody else that fights for second place
right now, kind of like Bond's and it's the first
(15:45):
time we've seen it since Bont's. Watching Judge is unbelievable.
I mean, he's playing, he's playing a video game right now,
and he's hitting three thirty. It's not like he's hitting
two eighty six. He's hitting three thirty three in a
time in an era where nobody's hitting three thirty three,
and really impressively he's doing it. He's got twenty more
ribbies than the next guy in either league.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, you want to argue Judge is a hitter, that's fine,
but as a player, it's not close Otani is. Because
Otani's he's going to go fifty to fifty and then
he's going to start twenty five games with a two
and a half yard I mean, you kidding me, not there.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
But he's he's uh, I don't know, he's returning punts,
he's on the kickoff teams, quarterback, and as a defensive bat,
how do you compete for that?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Totally? All right, man, great stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Hopefully we'll have a team very much in contention still
by next thursday.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Uh I love it.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And we're talking a week.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And if we don't, we're gonna half out right now
correct and if we don't, you're telling loose stories.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I believe me.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
I know when to start freshing about on the loose stories.
I think this week I would say four and two.
I said, Dad, they don't want to talk about lou yet.
I thought you were going to talk about a rose
arena visiting the visiting locker room. But we didn't get to.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Let's do that next week. We're late for a break.
We'll talk next week. All right, thanks again, man.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Brett Boone with us. We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
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got a new job with the NFL network.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
We'll talk to him next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Love from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your Home for
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Speaker 2 (17:41):
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the way, Dick hiring a plethora of new analysts, Ron
Rivera Mantiteo, including this guy right way, you're.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Back at Oski Stadium.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Standback throwing on first down from his own forty four
yard line, tassas to the right side and catch us
on a hits rap. Sonny Shackelford, splitting two defenders and
going into the end zone.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Bro Washington dutchtop I only cow. The dogs come out
and explode into the en.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Zon third and five shotgun formation from the Wildcat twenty
eight yardline. They moved from our left to our right,
out of the gun hair standback a quarterback draw first
down in More twenty fifteen ten Isaiah stand back into
the end Zob touchdown.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Washington, All right.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I can see how somebody hearing that would say the
NFL Network hired Bob Rondo analysts.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
No, they hired Garfield.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Bulldog legend Isaiah standback. Who's now with the NFL Network?
How are you, man, Man, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Let's get to hear from you guys.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Oh dude, those highlights, we had to dust those things off. Man,
something fierce snow doubt you have the sunny shackle for reference, right, Man.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
I was just with Sonny and Q guinnin day was
last week when I was down to La Man, so.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I was gonna catch up with my guys.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, I was telling Jackson off the air that I
missed the Craig Chambers hil Mary because I was at
seth e It's wedding in New York. That's like the
one play of your career that I did not get
to see.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
But here you are twenty whatever years later, and we're
sitting here talking about a NFL Network analyst. Man, So
congrats on that. On the new job number one and
then number two. Dude, Dick and I have been debating
the last couple of days about what we got here
in Seattle. We'll talk about your cowboys down there as well.
But when you think about Geno Smith and the league
(20:27):
thinks about Geno Smith, what do you think the Seahawks
have in their quarterback?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Now, what's your take on where this guy sits on
the list of quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
I think Geno's always flew under the radar, and I
think that's a good thing from his stance because of
the fact there's not a lot of highest spectations.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
People aren't necessarily looking to him.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
They're looking at a lot of the other big name
guys that are on the roster, looking at the new
hey coach and seeing exactly what he's going to do.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
So he's able just.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
To be himself, be true to to himself, and can
go out there and be what he's always been, which
is a consistent player. Obviously, Seattle re upped him for
a reason. He was able to make some plays and
now he's back, obviously with a full onslot of of
of a roster in terms of guy's weapons at his disposal.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Kenneth Walker to third. You got DK, you got Tyler,
you got all those guys out.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
There he could throw too, and you got a new
OC who's Seattle's very familiar with.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
So looking forward to seeing what we can do this year.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Well, you've mentioned DK, and you got all these receivers
Isaiah making you know, thirty plus million dollars a year.
DK is going to want to be on that list,
But DK doesn't nearly have the numbers that those guys do.
Whether he has the talent or not, I'm going to
leave that up to you. Does DK have the talent
and potential to be up there with the Jamar Chases
(21:38):
and the Justin Jeffersons of the world.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Absolutely, They just have to figure it out offensively, and
I think with the new oc up there, they're going
to be distributing the ball all over the place. He
just didn't have the opportunities that he's been afforded to
him in the past. So DK obviously is one of
the most, you know, the greatest athletes in the league
of a physical specimen. Obviously he's one of the biggest.
He's one of the fastest in the in the league
at that position. I mean, it is just a matter
(22:01):
of is there enough balls to get a round so
that he can actually get us touches.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, well, Isaiah stand back is with us. Ryan Grubb.
I know you met Ryan when he was at you
dub By the way.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Were you at the Natty against Michigan? Did I see
at that game?
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Absolutely? Yeah, I'm always repping you, dub Man. So if
I can get to a game, I'm there at the
pack Tweld Championship, I was a national championship.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I was at all of it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
So you saw Ryan Grubb's offense up till some personal
when he was at Washington. Now he's the offensive coordinator
for the Seahawks. What should fans expect out of this guy?
And what do you think his biggest transition point will
be going from college football to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I don't think he's gonna have a lot a lot
of troubles. I mean, obviously it just comes down to protection.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Can he handle things up front in terms of the
running game, can he position them in a good position
so that they can obviously have good down the distances.
But the one thing that I loved about him at
the University of Washington is everybody got the rocks. You
never knew who was going to get the rock at
any given play. It didn't matter what the situation was,
didn't matter what the down and distance was. He was
seemingly always somebody else that was gonna step up and
make the big play. And when you have the amount
(23:03):
of talent that you have with the Seahawks right now.
Obviously with the three headed monster receiver of solid running back,
you know, obviously a gino spent at that quarterback.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
As long as they could get some protection up front. Yeah,
they're gonna be scoring points this year.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
So let's talk about the chances both in the NFC overall,
in the and the NFC West. How close are the
Hawks right now to beating down the Niners door.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I think they're very close. I mean, the Niners have
a lot of things going on.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Obviously, they just signed Brandon and I you finally got
that done today, so I mean there's a little bit
of ties that are being settled, but they've still missing
the big fellow over there on the left side in
terms of Trent Williams, whether that gets.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Done or not.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
I think they are emotionally just just done. I think
They've had a lot of a lot of success in
the regular season, obviously done well in the playoffs, but
they haven't walked away with the ring yet. So I
think they're they're kind of overwhelmed in that regard. I mean, eventually,
you know, the gas kind of just runs out, regardless
of the weapons that you have.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, well, Isaiah stand back as what us.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
He's now with the NFL Network, And you saw what
Dak Prescott said about Jerry Jones that he doesn't listen
to what he says in the media. You know, I mean,
you're down there in Texas, man, First of all, just
give us kind of the field, dude. Do Cowboy fans
want Dak Prescott re sign? Do they want him given
a gigantic contract? What do you think Cowboy Nation wants
(24:18):
down there?
Speaker 8 (24:19):
I think Cowboys Nation definitely wants consistency. I think that
they understand that, you know, Dak hasn't necessarily Dak and
the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It's not just Dak. They haven't they haven't gotten the.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Results that they wanted in the post ethen but in
terms of just consistency at the quarterback position, there's only
a handful of other guys that can even match up
with him statistically what he's done in the league. So
when you look at it and say, Okay, do we
want to get the guy in one heck of an extension,
I think you're in a position.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Where you have to say, well, we have to still.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
The Dallas Cowboys are in a position where they have
to give Dak Prescott an extension, and I think he
will get his money. I've been predicting that it's gonna
happen between Friday, you know, tomorrow, or all the.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Way up to Wednesday of next week.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
But if they allow him to touch the field against
the Cleveland Browns without a contract, you can say bye
by to Dak because I can guarantee you there's a
dude DWN in Las Vegas who's really willing to open
up his checkbook.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Interesting, it's Mark Davis. You think this week they'll they'll
sign Dak? Okay, then how do the Cowboys compete for
a Super Bowl with three guys making one hundred and
thirty million dollars in Micah Parsons, Dak Prescott and CD Lamb?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
How did?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
How is that possible?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Considering when one of those three, Dak Prescott, I think
we would all agree is not an elite quarterback. Unless
you think he is an elite quarterback.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
You know what.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
I've been one of Deck's harshest critics over the years.
Trust me, I'll break down all the film. I see
everything he does good, everything that he struggles with and
I and as much as I've hesitated on putting him
in the upper echelon of quarterbacks. When you sit back
and look at his his body of work, you have
to when you look at the regular season, you have
to separate regular season in postseason. Regular season is dak
is staying there untouchable aside from you know, the year
(25:56):
before last.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
By twenty twenty two.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
But this dude, he's a really quarterback and he struggled
with a handful of things. But as long as he
has his weapons out there and he has a solid
office line, which Dallas always makes sure that they have,
then he's in a good position to make some plays.
In terms of what these guys can do in the postseason,
I'm not sure how they know. No coach with us
spoken with has been able to put their finger on
why it is that they struggled in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
But the good thing is they've always positioned themselves for
the postseason. And that's more than most teams can say.
Three straight years of twelve wins. I mean, I don't
I don't know too many other teams that are doing that.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, Hey, how old are you now, by the.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Way, I mean, I just did forty forty.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So okay, so you were you were ten the last
time the Cowboys played in the NFC Championship gain. Just
so you know, Isaiah still back, man, Great to hear
your voice. Congrats on the new gig with the NFL Network,
and let's talk sooner.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Right buddy, Absolutely, man, you guys be good to thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You got it, man, Isaiah stand back with us. Did
you hear Joe Shehan going off on the Mariner ownership
the other day on Ian's radio show. You see what
Danny O'Neal road about Jerry Depoto the other day the
News Tribune. We'll get to all that next on ninety
three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR FM.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
By the way, update from the North Dakota State Colorado game,
fourteen to ten Buffalos. But North Dakota State has got
one hundred and sixty yards of offense.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
It's a good game.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
With fourteen minutes left in the second, Colorado has your
reading zero beef on the defensive, one none zone, then
none whatsoever. All right, we'll keep an eye on that
one let's see the Astros and the Royals no score
bottom three in Houston. Mariner's night off before they take
on the Angels and the first Italian born pitcher to
(27:51):
start a game in baseball history, Sammy Aldigandy from a Verana.
We'll start tomorrow night for the Angels. The first Italian
to start a game of baseball ever, start against the Mariners.
Joe Shean, by the way, who joins E in every
week right from the Joe Shean newsletter. I haven't even
heard this yet. I purposely did not listen to this.
(28:12):
I want to hear for the first time right now
on the air with Ian Furness yesterday and had this
to say about the current ownership situation in Seattle.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
It's frustrating because when you have a rotation like that,
just spend money. You're talking about thirty million dollars for
a rotation that's going to be worth sabermetrically speaking, what
twenty twenty five wins? And you want to break that
up and it's going in circles. If you tell me
they're going to trade Gilbert for a comparable hitter, like
I can get on board with that. Can you get
Riley Green and then also sign Anthony Santander and keep
(28:45):
Randy or Rose Arena. But if you try Gilbert for
a hitter and then trade Randy rose Arena, who was
only going to make maybe eight nine million dollars next
year anyway, for you know, payroll relief, you're going in circles.
So you've replaced Rozarina with a hitter, and you're down,
and you're down a starting pitcher. You're just going in circles.
I don't get like I'm not rich. I work in
(29:05):
sports media. There's no way I'm rich. If I owned
a baseball team. The marginal dollars I might lose don't
affect me at all. Tell me I'm gonna lose ten
million dollars a year for the next ad infinite. First
of all, i'm rich. I can afford it if I
own a baseball team. I can obviously afford that. If
I could afford to buy the team, I can afford
to pay the players. And even if I can't, I
(29:25):
get ten years down the road, I sell the team,
and I've made all of those losses back because the
team appreciates at a ridiculous rate. So I've never understood this. Well,
you know, we have to treat it like a grocery
store where if we lose money, oh my god, the
kids might not eat. I am completely and excuse me
for going off here, but I'm completely sick of this
entire attitude to running a baseball team. If you're rich
(29:47):
enough to buy the team, you're rich enough to pay
the players.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
So the reason why he says thirty million for the
rotation is because Luis Castillo's making twenty four million and
Gilbert wu Kirby and the other guys are making six
and a half seven million dollars. And I've said that
all year long, right, You've heard me say that many times,
that if there's ever a year to spend money, it's
right now, because you're paying your rotation, Jack Squat. This
(30:10):
is a gift from the baseball gods to pay these
guys the amount of money that you're paying them. And
that's gonna change start next year when guys start going
to arbitration. I mean, Ryan Divish was on the Marine
Layer guys and said they might trade Logan Gilbert to
get the offense they're looking for and then maybe reroute
a rose arena somewhere else. I mean, that's been my
biggest fear that they're gonna have to trade pitching to
(30:30):
get hitting because they won't pay for it and they
can't develop it. And that's gonna piss me off if
they have to move one of those guys to get
a bat. So that's number one, But number two it's
it's it's crazy to me, Dick how This year, more
than any other, You're starting to hear a lot of
national people that have an opinion on the Mariner ownership
(30:52):
group and their approach to the game. And it's not
a positive one. This is not just something in an
echo chamber here in Seattle. This is now being talked
about across the car Well, this is this is their
litmus test right here. I mean, they can shut everybody
up by not doing exactly what Joshian's worried that they're
going to do. They can shut everybody up, and it's
(31:14):
it is going to be actions by John stan That
is the only thing that is going to shut anybody up.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
He has got to sign these pictures now. Fortunately they're staggered, right.
He doesn't have to sign them all at the same time.
Signs one year, he signs won, the next year, won,
the next year, and in the meantime, the window is
now to build up your offense to win the World Series,
because four or five years from now, you're not going
to be able to no matter how much you spend.
(31:42):
The Marriagers are not gonna be able to spend enough
to afford all the pitchers making thirty million dollars a
year plus having an offense. So you have to build
the offense to win a World Series now while you're
only paying one or two of your pictures instead of
all five of your pictures.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, I will just say this, I disagree with you
on the shut everybody up thing.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I get what you're saying. I think it's going to
take a lot more than that to shut everybody up.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Because I heard the everybody will shut up if they
go out and get Otani. Everybody will shut up if
they signed Corey Seeger or Marcus Simeon, and they did,
and they ignored that free agent class. So I think
we're way past shutting people up, honestly, like now we're
starting to give them credit for things they should be doing.
I mean, George Kirby and Logan Gilbert are both up
for arbitration at the end of this year. I think
(32:30):
Miller's still a couple of years away, and these are
guys that you should sign. I mean, your franchise is
worth two point two billion dollars and you paid one
hundred and whatever million dollars for it. I mean that
number is going to go up and up and up
and up. So I just think we're way past that.
I'd like them to get rid of the team and
give it to somebody who really has a passion to
win a championship and will spend the appropriate dollars it
(32:53):
takes to win. It drives me nuts that we live
in Seattle, Washington, one of the richest cities in the world,
and we are stuck with this cheap, tight WAT ownership.
Does that persist? I don't know, Maybe not, maybe not.
I mean, look again, it's.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
I mean it's great to say I want to sell
the team, but if the person doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Then what's the solution. I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I mean, it's one thing to go, hey Bomber buy
the team. Hey Bezos by the team, Hey Bill Gates
by the team, blah blah blah. But if those guys
don't have any interest, then whatever, And then you start
to get into a situation where you get guys that
aren't from here that buy the team, and then when
the lease is up on Tea Mobile Park, they talk
about moving blah blah blah. You get into that game, right,
So I just this is the stuff they should be doing.
(33:40):
And they are who they are, right, Like, they knew
they had this great elite rotation, they knew they had
some really good young talent, and they still chose to
ignore the free agent market at that time when they're
paying these four guys six seven million dollars combined. So
look good for Joe Sheian for bringing it up. I mean,
this is stuff that a lot of us been saying
(34:00):
now for decades, and it's just it's getting so tiresome, right,
it's getting so tiresome, dick every single year to say
the same stuff over and over again.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And I hope you're right.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I hope that these guys surprise us and say we're
not getting rid of anybody.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
We're gonna go out and we're.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Gonna pay what it takes to compliment these guys with
great offense. They haven't done it so far, Why would
we think they'll do it next year or the year
after that.
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