September 11, 2024 • 30 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Mike Florio about Deshaun Watson, Tyreek Hill, Bill Belichick, gigantic quarterback contracts and Dak Prescott’s new deal, then Jackson gives today’s Fact or Fiction pick before some Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Mike Florio is going to join us in about three
minutes from now. We'll get Mike's thoughts on a lot
of issues around the NFL. It is just unbelievable, man,
the eight hundred thousand pound giant, the National Football League
every single day, every single week, every single morning.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I was talking to Harden about this.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You'll hear that coming up at five o'clock in our
conversation with Kevin Harlan, brought to you by the Emeral
Queen that you know, Sunday morning, you had the Dak deal,
you had the Tyreek.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hill arest going on.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Now you have everything that took place on Monday with
Christian McCaffrey and Jordan Mason. It's like how the NFL
just continues to find a way to dominate the news cycle.
It is unbelievable, right, I mean, you could dedicate a
whole channel, Wait a minute, there is to the Northern
Football League. Yeah, how about a whole radio network? Wait
a minute, there is to the National Football League. So
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Mike Florio will join us on the radio show in
a few minutes. Petros at four, and then Kevin Harlan's
going to join us at five o'clock tonight. And I
don't know about you, man, but I said this yesterday
on the radio show, and I've seen a lot of
it on X or Twitter. We can call it Twitter, right, yes,
because you guys know what I'm talking about. When I
say Twitter. I think more people know what I mean
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when I say Twitter versus when I say X on Twitter. Today,
I'm really feeling guys in Jackson, you can confirm or
deny this dick the same thing. Although you don't spend
as much time on social media as we do because you.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Have a life and you have kids.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
They're The hate between Wazoo and Washington fans is really
now starting to flow.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It really kind of skipped up my thoughts. It's good
I've gotten into it with a couple of time. You
know what I'm just throwing out for you. I'm just
throwing out facts on X for Twitter. I'm not I
don't need I mean, when you're a Husky fan, you
really don't need to tweet smack talk.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
All you need to do is tweet facts.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
For example, send us out today six hours ago. Every
year we hear quote the Apple Cup is going to
be a close game.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
End quote.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Since the end of the Willingham era, which we're talking
over a decade and a half. They're five thousand eight, right, Yeah,
there have only been three games decided by one score,
and Washington is twelve and two overall in those games.
So the whole narrative that the Apple Cup is going
to be close.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
These two hard fucked teams I hate each other. It's
going to be a really close down to Yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Was last year, but that was the exception to what
has been the rule over the last fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And even when they came here and beat us a
couple of years ago, they kind of kicked our ass.
I mean, we had an interim head coach, we had
a freshman quarterback in Santa Hewett, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
But look, here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You'll hear lazy people around the country that talk about
the Apple Cup. And I was actually watching the Big
ten network today because I got Fubo. I gotta watch
a Big ten network now, r I.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm a Fubo man. God, that feels good, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You have freed me from the box of ta television
and I've never felt more alive after a ditching cable.
But I'm watching the Big ten network and those guys
had to do a pretty good job. But you'll hear
somebody go on the air, maybe so Cold McCoy's doing
the game Saturday for Peacock.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Maybe he'll go on the air.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And say, you know, this is always a hard fuck
game when it really isn't. Of course, that's the whole point,
you know. But I was looking this up today and
I put this on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Wazoo has not beaten a nine win UDUB team in
thirty two years. Last time it happened was the snowboull
Oh Wow Snowbulls in ninety two. Wazoo has won nine
games or more six times since two thousand and one,
and they've lotched every year to u DUB. Every year
they have a good year, they lose to UDUB. It
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takes an awful year for Wazoo to beat you.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
DUP. Mike Florio joining us right now.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
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here's Softy and Dick.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And those are just facts, man, those are just facts.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Jack about the Apple Cup, We're talking more about that
with Petros coming up today. But joining us right now
on the radio show the King of All NFL Media,
the undisputed heavyweight champion of the NFL Press Corps from
Pro Footballtalk dot Com, the NFL and NBC our friend
Michael Florio, How are you.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Pal, They're good, Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Dick and but hole.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Let's talk about Deshaun Watson. Why is all this stuff
leaking now about his contract? I know you tweeted out
that you've had it now for a few years, but
it seems like more people are jumping on the particulars
of his deal. The story about this second second but
another sexual assault case some folks think was put out
there so the Browns could find a way to get
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the hell out of his deal. How do you kind
of break down the current predicament the Browns are in
with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
That's the hell of the next level Tinfoil had conspiracy theory.
The idea is that the Browns instigated yet another lawsuit
against Deshaun Watson, hopeful that the League would do the
Browns a favor and suspend him at a time when
the league's position would be, why are we going to
help the Browns get out from under the of this
horrible contract that was fully guaranteed and screwed up our.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Way of doing business?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Why do we want to give them a get out
of jail free card on this? There's a more reasonable
basis in that conclusion that the Browns instigated this.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
This was a claim that he's.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Been lingering, and for whatever reason, it finally got filed
on Monday. And when I first heard of the existence
of the lawsuit, my thought was must be some new
incident since he was traded to Cleveland, which would be
very bad.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
For Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
It turns out it allegedly happened October tenth, twenty twenty,
the day before the Jaguars host or the Texan host
of the Jaguars in their first game after the firing
of Bill O'Brien, And I'm sure that the lawyers will
dig into the details to put the two people in
the same place at the same time, and then it
becomes a credibility contest between what she says and what
he said.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
But if this is something and here's.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
As simple as I can make it, if this is
something that was not disclosed to the Browns in writing
in conjunction with parag forty two of his contract, and
if he suspended for even one game because of it,
they can avoid his remaining.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Guarantees and jump him. And there's ninety two millions.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
In twenty five, twenty six combined that they can avoid.
And I said Monday on PFC Live, before I even
knew there would be a new lossuit, I had no
reason to think that the things that caused the trouble
for him multiple years ago would circle back around. I
said after the performance against the Cowboys, the Browns would
love to have men of fall from the sky in
the form of a suspension of Deshaun Watson. That would
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allow them to get out from under the rest of
his contract and lo and behold there it is. But
but the NFL is going to have to decide that
it wants to suspend him. It's going to have to
have the evidence it would support a suspension. It's gonna
have to go through the in house legal procedure that
it used two years ago, and Watson will be able
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to defend it zealously who have appeal rights internally.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
But there's a lot riding on it. This is more
than just missing a few games.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Is ninety two million dollars that may go away forever.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Of all the big stories we've had this week, and
there's been a lot of them, the biggest was probably
on the streets of Miami on Sunday morning. Your take
on what you saw on the video concerning Tyreek Hill
and where do we go from here?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Well, the unfortunate aspect of this is both sides.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Have retreated to their corners and they're pointing fingers at
each other. Although today it sounds like tyreek Hill acknowledged
that he wishes he would have handled some things differently.
I think what happened was he was uncooperative. He did
not behave the way that one should behave. When the
cops pull you over, they tell you to roll the
window down, you roll it.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Down and you leave it down.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Why because if you got tinted windows, they don't know
what's going on inside the car. They don't know what
you're grabbing out of your glove box. It's a safety situation.
And he was like, Hey, just give me a ticket.
I'm going to be late. That's not the right attitude
when you're dealing with authorities. But it's not proper to
treat what comes next as basically seventy.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Style corporal punishment.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
I'll teach you for talking back to me. And I
eventually learned a connection between being a smart ass and
being spanked. But that's what it became. It wasn't about
getting him to comply. It was about punishing him. That's
how it felt, punishing him for not complying, even though
once they pushed the door up and they started grabbing
for him, it was clear he was going to comply.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, Mike Florio with us on the radio show. So
a lot of reports about Bill Belichick wanted to get
back into coaching next year but waiting for the right
position and situation, which obviously he's got that luxury to do.
I'm curious where you potentially think that situation could be
for him next year, And Mike, we've got his son
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Steve coaching the defense at Washington right now just down
the road on Montlake. Would he bring Steve Belichick his
son with him.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Well, here's the reality.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
The report from the first Sunday of the season what
Sean Payton derisively calls the Sunday Splash report, because all
the insiders are charged with coming up with something good
that can be used to make a.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Splash, and sometimes it's not really news. Is it really
news to think that Belichick wants the coach again.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Of course he wants the coach again. The thing that
struck me he's going to be choosy. That's the word choosing. Well,
I learned a long time.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Ago beggars can't be choosers.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
And this is a guy who got fired, who had
one interview when there were seven non Patriots openings this year,
and he got one interview and he didn't get an offer.
There's this lingering concern that unless you're willing to hand
him the keys of the operation, he's going to come
in and try to take over. And he's going to
be seventy three next year. And look at what that
means for Pete Carroll age. Discrimination is real in the NFL.
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You add all those factors up, is he really going
to be.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
In a position to pick and choose or is it going.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
To be Hopefully there's one team out there that decides
I'm the right option at age seventy three, and that
the fan base watched me. I think that's why it's
become overexposed in media. He's everywhere now, there's no reason
to seek him out because he's anywhere you look. It
would have been so much smarter to limit himself to
just one or two things, so you have to go
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find him, and he has one area where he puts
his takes out there and does his analysis.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That would have been so much better.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
And I think it's going to be an uphill climb
to get a fan base to want him, to get
an organization to be comfortable with him. The Giants are
the one team that stands out currently. I'm sure he'd
love to go to the Bills if they would clean
house there. You got a great quarterback and you get
to stick it to the Patriots. But are the Bills
going to even be in the market and would they
want a seventy three year old head coach who is
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either going to want to run the show or kind
of passively aggressively take over when there's.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Someone else who's technically in.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Charge, Mike, We've got another good but non elite quarterback,
just raising the stakes in the per year contract for quarterbacks.
I'm looking at the top nine. The nine quarterbacks making
more than Patrick Mahomes per year. They are combined zero
super titles and an eighteen and twenty two playoff record.
How long is this going to last before owners stop
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giving the eighth to fifteenth best quarterback in the league
number one money just because he's up.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Well, the owners would love to have a cap on
how much of the salary cap goes to the quarterback position.
I'm sure Jerry Jones would love to do that. But
he realized he was gonna pickle. He was gonna buyind
he either had to pay Dak Prescott sixty million a
year in new money now, or Prescott was going to
become a free agent. All it takes is one team
to say we'll pay him sixty five, we'll.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Pay him seventy. Who knows? And he decided to take
the bird in the hand. It's a pretty damn big bird.
The thing about Mahomes, they have redone his.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Deal to increase the cash flow currently and I need
to see what the cash flow will now be for
Mahomes versus Prescott. But the way Prescott has played this
and Cowboys fault. He didn't swoop in and offer him
a new contract after his third season, when he was
making like two to four million in his fourth year.
They let it play out. The franchise tagg him once,
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the franchise tagg him twice, and they finally cried uncle.
From twenty twenty one through twenty twenty eight, he will
have made four hundred million dollars. Josh Allen during that
same eight years will make two hundred and eighty one
point nine million. Now, you're not gonna have a big
sale for the guy, but my god, one hundred and
twenty million or an eight year stretch when most would
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say Allan is the better quarterback, the more accomplished quarterback,
the more dangerous quarterback.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Both are great.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
But if anybody should be banging on a door somewhere,
it's Josh Allen saying the Brandon being the GM of
the bill, it's time to redo this contract.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, why did they wait until Sunday morning to get
that thing done?
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
What was the hold up?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Well, it's a deadline driven business, and if you want
to get it done before the week one game, the
clock starts striking twelve right then.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And I've been of the mindset throughout.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
The entire offseason, and it took me about twenty eight
years to finally figure this out.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Jerry Jones doesn't really care about winning.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Jerry Jones cares about being a good carnival barker, a huckster.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
He has a great sense for exposure for his team.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
And what a perfect time to drop that turd in
the NFL news punch bowl.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
And it really wasn't a turd. I mean it was
good news and it took over the news cycle.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
It pushed Tyreek Hill's situations down the stack.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Here it comes bang, they get the deal done. So
I think Jerry Jones has a flair for the dramatic.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
He loves to pick and choose his spots to make news.
He used the CD Lamb hold out during training camp
to strategically make news with the things he said about
Ceedee Lamb. So yeah, I think it happened when it
happened because everyone was paying attention to the NFL. And
here's Jerry saying, I signed my quarterback and now we're
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going to go win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Even though deep down. I don't think he really cares.
He cares about making as much money as he.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Can, and that's fine, but let's just be transparent about
the fact that he's pretending to want to win Super
Bowls in order to make as much money as you can.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Hey, Mike, before we let you go, is there some
shenanigans going on with the forty nine ers and Christian
McCaffrey And why is the NFL mum on this?
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Well, it's good that their mum because what they could
have done in the aftermath of Christian McCaffrey having Achilles
and CAF injury limited practice Friday, Saturday and Thursday of
last week, he got my days out of order Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
They put the questionable light below him. On Saturday, after
Jordan Mason came in and had twenty eight carries one
hundred and forty plus rushing yards, he told Lisa Soldiers
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of ESPN. She said, when did you find out you're
going to be starting? He said, Friday, Friday night something
like that.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
They knew.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
I believe when they put the questionable tag on McCaffrey,
they were going to play this game where you make
them questionable, you don't say anything to anyone, and then
he's on the list of inactive players ninety minutes before kickoffs.
And I'm not faulting the forty nine ers directly because
the system allows it. But but number one, the NFL
should change the rules, and number two, at a minimum,
you can make the argument that at some point between
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Saturday and Monday night he became doubtful in the estimation
of the forty nine. If they just didn't in the
moment you snap your fingers and put together you're an
active let's say, hey, you know what, Kristen was more
likely to play than not, because that's what questionable kind
of means.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And now we'll just decide we're not gonna play them
at all.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
So I hope the NFL does something about it, because
if they're gonna be in bed with gambling the way
they are, it's irresponsible.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
To not demand the.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Teams do a better job of making sure that people
out there who may bet over under props, yardage, touchdowns,
et cetera. Have a guy on the fantasy team in
a big money league, you need to have more timely
information that you better make a move. And as it
turned out, I mean, what are you gonna do on
Monday nights. You got Christian McCaffrey and all your other
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guys have played. You're gonna dump Christian McCaffrey and pick
up Jordan Mason. So I hope the NFL does something
about it because it undermines the integrity of all the
wagering that's done on the games.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk dot Com. Enjoy the weekend.
We'll talking to waste might see it. All right, all right,
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Speaker 1 (16:28):
Jackson was very offended by that rag my day, Jackson Day,
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Speaker 2 (16:34):
We'll get Jackson's pick for Factor Fiction coming up in
a matter of seconds here on the air, a little
fun with audio at three forty five, and then Petros
will join us at four o'clock today and uh he
was on Monday.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Man, all right, yeah, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Tell you right now, Edit City, Bleep City coming up
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Texas and Texas Tech from the Fox Studios on Saturday,
so he'll be with us coming up before and then
Kevin Harlan joining us on the radio show at five o'clock.
And I don't know, I mean just going back to
that situation with de Shaan Watson. Man, imagine being a
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Browns fan of being in that situation right now and
just stuck with this guy. The Dead Caps like seventy
five million for two years in a row. There's nothing
they can do, literally nothing they can do. And I
do buy I disagree with Mike. I do buy the
idea that Cleveland is going to any depths necessary to
get out of his contract, including planning stories about him.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I think you're right An, you know that question that
I asked Florio. I mean, there's there's a lot of
fan bases out there to Cleveland probably being the worst
because it's all guaranteed. But there's a lot of fan
bases out there going, what the hell are we doing
paying our quarterback what we're paying him? Look at the Giants,
My god, they're paying Danny Danny Dimes forty million dollars
a year. I mean, it's there's just there are far
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more fan bases going, why are we doing this guy?
Then there are fan bases going, god, we got this
franchise guy and I don't care what we're paying him.
There's only like two or three fan bases saying that, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Well, I mean look, I mean, obviously Mahomes is worth it.
Josh Allen, I think he's worth it when they gave
him the deal. I mean that hasn't worked out. And
I tell you what, I love. I love Florio's call
on Bill Belichick to Buffalo. That might in, Yeah, that
might be a fit.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Are you kidding? Go to that blue collar place.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He's got a ready made quarterback, right, he just got
to get some defense going there.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I think mcdermy's been higher.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Franch hire a competent offensive guy to take over the
offense and run that whole thing.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That that's a hell of a call by Mike Florio
of Belichick going to Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Absolutely, I mean Dallas too, right, I mean, Dallas is
a pretty ready made offense. So if he can get that,
he would have Micah Parsons is that, you know, anchor
for the defense that he could build around it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Dallas is one.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
But the thing with Dallas is, would Jerry Jones let
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Be in control?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Right at least in at least in Buffalo, you probably
would have an owner to be like, hey, you you
do this man, We've been so close and yet we
can't get over the hump.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
We believe you're the guy that can get us over
the hump. So you take over. Well, who is the
GM in New England? Was him? With Bill Belichick's right,
He's not gonna being control in Dallas of nothing. I
mean no, I mean I.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
As long as Jerry Jones is there. And I say
this with all respect. I've talked to buddies of mine.
A cowboy fans R. J. Shoppy said the same thing.
Cowboys are not gonna be good until Jerry Jones dies.
This is not gonna happen because he's He's not gonna
give up control of the football team, and maybe Steven
Jones will, maybe his son will give up control and
hire somebody. Remember when Ken Barring was here, Jackson probably
doesn't remember that name, Ken Bearing. Jackson hired his son
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David to be the GM of the football team, and
he knew nothing. He knew nothing about anything. It was
nepotism at its finest, okay. And that's exactly what's going
on right now in Dallas. So unless Jerry Jones dies,
nothing's gonna change in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And that's a crappy.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
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Speaker 1 (20:43):
Dick was slamming you. But I knew. I knew that
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Speaker 2 (20:46):
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So congratulations, young man, for sticking to your guns. I
remember it differently, jack Yeah, saying who'd you got this week?
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Uh, there's not a lot to love this week, just
because I think you guys are talking about it. There's
there's We just don't know a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Of these teams yet.
Speaker 9 (21:02):
I do see a game between the Baltimore Ravens and
the Las Vegas Raiders, and we know the Ravens have
extra rest, they're coming off the extra few days. They're
coming home I think angry after losing the opener barely
to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, they look pretty good.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Uh, they looked really good. And this is a Raiders
team that stinks. I mean they really really stink. Ten
points against the very mid Chargers defense. That line has
the Ravens by eight and a half right now. I
think they win that game by at least twenty. I
think they just murder them. I think they wife the
floor with the Raiders and then use them just as
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a broom at the end of the game. So give
me the Baltimore Ravens minus eight and a half at
home against the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Against Gardner Minshew Ravens minus the eight and a half
at home against the Raiders. I had a guy tweet
me today, some Cougar fan on Twitter saying, yeah, well,
guess what guess somebody's starting quarterbacks throw on the NFL
Cougars have won and you have none.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Like that's not they got a crap so they gotta
grab something. Man, Just embarrassing. And we have one starting
quarterback and you have none.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
With the hell like I'm supposed to go up and
cry about that for God's sakes, all right, Jackson likes
the Ravens minus the eight and a half against the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You like it your text, In fact, you hate it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It's fiction to four nine, four to five one, all
courtesy of the emeral Queen.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well, first of all, like the bold call and the
win by twenty. See, now that's sticking you. That's sticking
your neck out a little bit. It's one thing to
say factor fiction is another thing to say they're gonna
win by twenty.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
The line is in nineteen and a half, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I like that game all the way up to ten.
I would have I would have leaned Raiders if it
got over ten. But since it's an eight and a half,
I still lean Ravens in that one. And I think
they got to get Dereck Henry more involved in the
football game. He was not very involved in that first game.
It was more it was more Justice Hill with the
little dump offs and stuff like that. So let's just
pound pound pound and you don't get that twenty four
(22:50):
to ten win that we need.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Oh you want to go to Poundtown with Derek Henry, Yes, Poundtown.
I think the cool thing about Survivor is we just
got a freaking win, dude, we just got to win.
It doesn't freaking matter, right, You just gotta win, cover
the spread eight and a half and move on. And
I think Jackson can do it. I think Jackson's about
to go on a hot streak here. I think he's
about to pull off like a seven and one.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
In his next eight games. And you and I are
going to go the opposite when to let Jackson take over.
But this, this is what's happened.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
This is why we are multiple year champions in Factor fiction,
because we have someone that always gets hot and kind
of just so we never go on these long slumps
because one of the three of us is always hot,
and then when two of the three of us get
on at the same time, that's when we're in.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
By the way, do you guys notice what I just
did there? How I just corrected myself on the fly
when I said all we gotta do is win And
I can just hear you.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Going, huh, we we gotta cover you know what? I'm
thinking that because I got my survivor freaking content I
went there. I mean, too many pools.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I can't This is why I don't play fantasy football.
I can't keep track of all of this stuff. Man,
We're gonna break fun with audio. Jackson likes the Ravens
minus the eight and a half against the UH the
Vegas Raider. Excuse me, Baltimore Factor fiction to four nine,
four to five one, Get him in now courtesy of
the Emeral Queen.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Fun with Audio coming up next. It's now time for
Sufday in Dick's Fun with Audio. Jimmy g pawn Star,
Jimmy mister garoppolo. Now let's have some fun with audio.
All right, here you go on a Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Guy, there was a time about three three months ago,
two months ago, we're sitting here eyeballing this Padres series, thinking, man,
that's gonna be a big game, that might be a
World series preview, and then that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Wow, I think we're ten games up and then it's
what happened.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But we're here for the Mariners and Padres tonight, uh
six forty over at Tea Mobile Park.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Have a little fun with audio. Slash hated you hear that? Hey, Dick?
Did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 4 (24:42):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yesterday I had a press conference over in Pullman, Washington.
State head coach Jake Dickert talked about what it meant
to beat the.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Huskies in the twenty twenty one Apple Cup.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
You have won this game, when you're talking to your guys,
maybe the ones who haven't been here, what do you
tell them about the feelings of coming out on top
in this rivalry?
Speaker 10 (25:01):
And obviously that was definitely a unique moment, you know
for Washington State where we're at, what we've been through.
I mean, just the pride that I have in that
memory of that football game, and I don't think it'll
ever be tops in my football coaching career and what
that meant in that time, and obviously getting the trophy
was part of that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
So he's been taking some heat for saying that that
this will be like his biggest win ever over a
four and eight.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Probably, well it could be.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I understand what he's saying, because he was an interim
guy then, right, they were coming off of the roll
of its crap and whatever and blah blah blah. So
every different game has different context and different emotions and
all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So I understand that.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But I'm certain that Jake Dickard and Washington State Cougar
fans are hoping he gets a bigger win than that
and his coaching career at some point.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
But I get what he's I don't I mean, we
get what he means, will he at Washington State? I
don't know, maybe, maybe not, but yeah, they got that win.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I also know that you know that Husky team was
in shambles to a point that we have not seen
since the end of the two thousand.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And eight season.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Absolutely yeah, and it's not there's not even a close second.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So hey, Bob, good on him for winning. Yeap, good
on him for winning.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
They had Bob Gregory's a head coach who what has
he done since?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And a freshman quarterback who I felt terrible for that
he was even starting exactly right, I said that, poor bastard.
They're throwing him out there and saying, be our savior.
Go win a game. Go get your opportunity to save
our ass against our biggest rival or second biggest rival
some say, and go win the game. As an eighteen
year old, I thought it was horrible what they did
to Sam Hewart in that game.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Terrible. All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
After Cougar practice yesterday, WSU safety Tyson Durant providing some
bulletin board material for Husky quarterback Will Rogers while talking
about his limitations.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
You've seen the film Tyson Will Rodgers likes to get
that ball out quick.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
What challenges does he present for you guys?
Speaker 11 (27:00):
Uh, I would say, you know, he's a he's a
pretty accurate passer, not much on the legs. He can
get loose, but he's not too much on the running side.
I know he's coming from air raid as well, so
they're trying to fit him in a pro style offense.
So I know that might be a little difficult for him.
So we can just shake him up under the center
and get some pressure, get some people in his face.
I know he hasn't even face near the D line
(27:20):
we have over here, so we get some pressure on him.
He's I think he's gonna shruggle.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, I would say he's right that the Cougar D
line is better than Weaver State and Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I mean, and they better be. If they're not, then
they're a number two.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I actually asked Brendan Carroll about that yesterday. I actually
read the quote to him at the press conference as well.
He said, every quarterback struggles under pressure. He's right, Like
if you look at the PFF rankings, like clean pocket,
dirty pocket, everybody's percentages and passer ratings go way down
when they're under pressure. Like if you're at like, if
you're at like fifty five percent, you're doing well right
(27:54):
under pressure.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
So yeah, I mean, but I you know what I
like to do, guys.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I like to twist it and turn it around to
fit my narrative and then tell the Huskies that Wazoo's talking.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Smack. That's what I'm gonna do with that clip, you
know it's talking.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, talking to Greg and Mario after the Husky hanks yesterday.
I thought it was interesting because I'm just assuming that
it's gonna be pound the rock, Pound the rock, pound
the rocket that small defensive front of Washington State, and
and Greg was like, not this when they opened up
the playbook, Man, this is when they start go guns
of blazing and throw it down. So I think it's
gonna be fascinating what Carol decides to do.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean, Jed Fish, well, Jed Fish, he's the play calls. Yes,
Jed Fish decides to do.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean, does he decide to use the pass to
set up the run and really let Will Rogers loose
with plays we haven't seen yet? Or is it just
gonna be You know what, our guys are bigger and
stronger than their guys, and their guys can't tackle number one,
so we're just gonna give him the ball twenty five times.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, I mean, I just I think Jed Fish has
a lot that he's been sitting on the first three
games of the years.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I assume Benny our Buckle does.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Is that his name, Ben Arbuckle, the twenty eight year
old play caller for Wazoo.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I mean he's got to have stuff he's sitting on too,
So this is so hard to handicap this thing that
I don't think we really know a lot about either team,
to be honest with you, all right, Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's me looking for my drop? By the way, what's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We all know the cow Golden Bears beat the Auburn
Tigers last weekend, but you may not have heard that
last week on the SEC network. Well, looking ahead of
the game and taking calls, Paul fine Bomb guaranteed that
Auburn would not lose to California.
Speaker 12 (29:30):
You mentioned it earlier this week that it is an
ACC versus SDC matchup between the Cow Golden Bears and
the Auburn Tigers. Is there any chance poll that you
think that the Auburn Tigers could be on ups to
Alert this week?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
There is no chance Auburn losers to Cal None book it.
Speaker 12 (29:50):
I could you want to take a friendly wager on
that pole? No money? No, I don't wait, man, but
I'll just I mean I made I just made a statement.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You can you can take that or not. But I
don't know how I could be anymore emphatic. Good call, Paul,
Well what we should do?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Let's make it beck and if you lose, you take
a plaster of Paris over your ears and see if
it covers your face.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
How about that? Paul?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Paul Finebaumb picks against the SEC in interconference games as
many times as Dick Baird picked against the Huskies in
the pregame show.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Oh god, it's just terrible. Come on, stupid idiot.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So Paul Finebaum's record in interconference SEC games is exactly
what the SEC's record is because he will never pick
against the conference. Is he paid by the conference?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I think he works for the SEC network, Yes, which
is owned by ESPN, So yes, he was for the SSC.
Work we got time for one more Jackson, now gotta go. Okay,
Petros Papadacus, we'll got his take on the Apple Cup
not really next on ninety three three kJ RFM
Where go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Mike Florio is going to join us in about three
minutes from now. We'll get Mike's thoughts on a lot
of issues around the NFL. It is just unbelievable, man,
the eight hundred thousand pound giant, the National Football League
every single day, every single week, every single morning.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I was talking to Harden about this.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You'll hear that coming up at five o'clock in our
conversation with Kevin Harlan, brought to you by the Emeral
Queen that you know, Sunday morning, you had the Dak deal,
you had the Tyreek.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hill arest going on.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Now you have everything that took place on Monday with
Christian McCaffrey and Jordan Mason. It's like how the NFL
just continues to find a way to dominate the news cycle.
It is unbelievable, right, I mean, you could dedicate a
whole channel, Wait a minute, there is to the Northern
Football League. Yeah, how about a whole radio network? Wait
a minute, there is to the National Football League. So
(00:47):
Mike Florio will join us on the radio show in
a few minutes. Petros at four, and then Kevin Harlan's
going to join us at five o'clock tonight. And I
don't know about you, man, but I said this yesterday
on the radio show, and I've seen a lot of
it on X or Twitter. We can call it Twitter, right, yes,
because you guys know what I'm talking about. When I
say Twitter. I think more people know what I mean
(01:07):
when I say Twitter versus when I say X on Twitter. Today,
I'm really feeling guys in Jackson, you can confirm or
deny this dick the same thing. Although you don't spend
as much time on social media as we do because you.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Have a life and you have kids.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
They're The hate between Wazoo and Washington fans is really
now starting to flow.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It really kind of skipped up my thoughts. It's good
I've gotten into it with a couple of time. You
know what I'm just throwing out for you. I'm just
throwing out facts on X for Twitter. I'm not I
don't need I mean, when you're a Husky fan, you
really don't need to tweet smack talk.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
All you need to do is tweet facts.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
For example, send us out today six hours ago. Every
year we hear quote the Apple Cup is going to
be a close game.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
End quote.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Since the end of the Willingham era, which we're talking
over a decade and a half. They're five thousand eight, right, Yeah,
there have only been three games decided by one score,
and Washington is twelve and two overall in those games.
So the whole narrative that the Apple Cup is going
to be close.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
These two hard fucked teams I hate each other. It's
going to be a really close down to Yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Was last year, but that was the exception to what
has been the rule over the last fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And even when they came here and beat us a
couple of years ago, they kind of kicked our ass.
I mean, we had an interim head coach, we had
a freshman quarterback in Santa Hewett, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
But look, here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You'll hear lazy people around the country that talk about
the Apple Cup. And I was actually watching the Big
ten network today because I got Fubo. I gotta watch
a Big ten network now, r I.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm a Fubo man. God, that feels good, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You have freed me from the box of ta television
and I've never felt more alive after a ditching cable.
But I'm watching the Big ten network and those guys
had to do a pretty good job. But you'll hear
somebody go on the air, maybe so Cold McCoy's doing
the game Saturday for Peacock.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Maybe he'll go on the air.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And say, you know, this is always a hard fuck
game when it really isn't. Of course, that's the whole point,
you know. But I was looking this up today and
I put this on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Wazoo has not beaten a nine win UDUB team in
thirty two years. Last time it happened was the snowboull
Oh Wow Snowbulls in ninety two. Wazoo has won nine
games or more six times since two thousand and one,
and they've lotched every year to u DUB. Every year
they have a good year, they lose to UDUB. It
(03:21):
takes an awful year for Wazoo to beat you.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
DUP. Mike Florio joining us right now.
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(03:47):
here's Softy and Dick.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And those are just facts, man, those are just facts.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Jack about the Apple Cup, We're talking more about that
with Petros coming up today. But joining us right now
on the radio show the King of All NFL Media,
the undisputed heavyweight champion of the NFL Press Corps from
Pro Footballtalk dot Com, the NFL and NBC our friend
Michael Florio, How are you.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Pal, They're good, Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Dick and but hole.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Let's talk about Deshaun Watson. Why is all this stuff
leaking now about his contract? I know you tweeted out
that you've had it now for a few years, but
it seems like more people are jumping on the particulars
of his deal. The story about this second second but
another sexual assault case some folks think was put out
there so the Browns could find a way to get
(04:36):
the hell out of his deal. How do you kind
of break down the current predicament the Browns are in
with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
That's the hell of the next level Tinfoil had conspiracy theory.
The idea is that the Browns instigated yet another lawsuit
against Deshaun Watson, hopeful that the League would do the
Browns a favor and suspend him at a time when
the league's position would be, why are we going to
help the Browns get out from under the of this
horrible contract that was fully guaranteed and screwed up our.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Way of doing business?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Why do we want to give them a get out
of jail free card on this? There's a more reasonable
basis in that conclusion that the Browns instigated this.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
This was a claim that he's.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Been lingering, and for whatever reason, it finally got filed
on Monday. And when I first heard of the existence
of the lawsuit, my thought was must be some new
incident since he was traded to Cleveland, which would be
very bad.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
For Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
It turns out it allegedly happened October tenth, twenty twenty,
the day before the Jaguars host or the Texan host
of the Jaguars in their first game after the firing
of Bill O'Brien, And I'm sure that the lawyers will
dig into the details to put the two people in
the same place at the same time, and then it
becomes a credibility contest between what she says and what
he said.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
But if this is something and here's.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
As simple as I can make it, if this is
something that was not disclosed to the Browns in writing
in conjunction with parag forty two of his contract, and
if he suspended for even one game because of it,
they can avoid his remaining.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Guarantees and jump him. And there's ninety two millions.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
In twenty five, twenty six combined that they can avoid.
And I said Monday on PFC Live, before I even
knew there would be a new lossuit, I had no
reason to think that the things that caused the trouble
for him multiple years ago would circle back around. I
said after the performance against the Cowboys, the Browns would
love to have men of fall from the sky in
the form of a suspension of Deshaun Watson. That would
(06:32):
allow them to get out from under the rest of
his contract and lo and behold there it is. But
but the NFL is going to have to decide that
it wants to suspend him. It's going to have to
have the evidence it would support a suspension. It's gonna
have to go through the in house legal procedure that
it used two years ago, and Watson will be able
(06:53):
to defend it zealously who have appeal rights internally.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
But there's a lot riding on it. This is more
than just missing a few games.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Is ninety two million dollars that may go away forever.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Of all the big stories we've had this week, and
there's been a lot of them, the biggest was probably
on the streets of Miami on Sunday morning. Your take
on what you saw on the video concerning Tyreek Hill
and where do we go from here?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Well, the unfortunate aspect of this is both sides.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Have retreated to their corners and they're pointing fingers at
each other. Although today it sounds like tyreek Hill acknowledged
that he wishes he would have handled some things differently.
I think what happened was he was uncooperative. He did
not behave the way that one should behave. When the
cops pull you over, they tell you to roll the
window down, you roll it.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Down and you leave it down.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Why because if you got tinted windows, they don't know
what's going on inside the car. They don't know what
you're grabbing out of your glove box. It's a safety situation.
And he was like, Hey, just give me a ticket.
I'm going to be late. That's not the right attitude
when you're dealing with authorities. But it's not proper to
treat what comes next as basically seventy.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Style corporal punishment.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
I'll teach you for talking back to me. And I
eventually learned a connection between being a smart ass and
being spanked. But that's what it became. It wasn't about
getting him to comply. It was about punishing him. That's
how it felt, punishing him for not complying, even though
once they pushed the door up and they started grabbing
for him, it was clear he was going to comply.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, Mike Florio with us on the radio show. So
a lot of reports about Bill Belichick wanted to get
back into coaching next year but waiting for the right
position and situation, which obviously he's got that luxury to do.
I'm curious where you potentially think that situation could be
for him next year, And Mike, we've got his son
(08:43):
Steve coaching the defense at Washington right now just down
the road on Montlake. Would he bring Steve Belichick his
son with him.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Well, here's the reality.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
The report from the first Sunday of the season what
Sean Payton derisively calls the Sunday Splash report, because all
the insiders are charged with coming up with something good
that can be used to make a.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Splash, and sometimes it's not really news. Is it really
news to think that Belichick wants the coach again.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Of course he wants the coach again. The thing that
struck me he's going to be choosy. That's the word choosing. Well,
I learned a long time.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Ago beggars can't be choosers.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
And this is a guy who got fired, who had
one interview when there were seven non Patriots openings this year,
and he got one interview and he didn't get an offer.
There's this lingering concern that unless you're willing to hand
him the keys of the operation, he's going to come
in and try to take over. And he's going to
be seventy three next year. And look at what that
means for Pete Carroll age. Discrimination is real in the NFL.
(09:39):
You add all those factors up, is he really going
to be.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
In a position to pick and choose or is it going.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
To be Hopefully there's one team out there that decides
I'm the right option at age seventy three, and that
the fan base watched me. I think that's why it's
become overexposed in media. He's everywhere now, there's no reason
to seek him out because he's anywhere you look. It
would have been so much smarter to limit himself to
just one or two things, so you have to go
(10:06):
find him, and he has one area where he puts
his takes out there and does his analysis.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That would have been so much better.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
And I think it's going to be an uphill climb
to get a fan base to want him, to get
an organization to be comfortable with him. The Giants are
the one team that stands out currently. I'm sure he'd
love to go to the Bills if they would clean
house there. You got a great quarterback and you get
to stick it to the Patriots. But are the Bills
going to even be in the market and would they
want a seventy three year old head coach who is
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either going to want to run the show or kind
of passively aggressively take over when there's.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Someone else who's technically in.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Charge, Mike, We've got another good but non elite quarterback,
just raising the stakes in the per year contract for quarterbacks.
I'm looking at the top nine. The nine quarterbacks making
more than Patrick Mahomes per year. They are combined zero
super titles and an eighteen and twenty two playoff record.
How long is this going to last before owners stop
(11:06):
giving the eighth to fifteenth best quarterback in the league
number one money just because he's up.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Well, the owners would love to have a cap on
how much of the salary cap goes to the quarterback position.
I'm sure Jerry Jones would love to do that. But
he realized he was gonna pickle. He was gonna buyind
he either had to pay Dak Prescott sixty million a
year in new money now, or Prescott was going to
become a free agent. All it takes is one team
to say we'll pay him sixty five, we'll.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Pay him seventy. Who knows? And he decided to take
the bird in the hand. It's a pretty damn big bird.
The thing about Mahomes, they have redone his.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Deal to increase the cash flow currently and I need
to see what the cash flow will now be for
Mahomes versus Prescott. But the way Prescott has played this
and Cowboys fault. He didn't swoop in and offer him
a new contract after his third season, when he was
making like two to four million in his fourth year.
They let it play out. The franchise tagg him once,
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the franchise tagg him twice, and they finally cried uncle.
From twenty twenty one through twenty twenty eight, he will
have made four hundred million dollars. Josh Allen during that
same eight years will make two hundred and eighty one
point nine million. Now, you're not gonna have a big
sale for the guy, but my god, one hundred and
twenty million or an eight year stretch when most would
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say Allan is the better quarterback, the more accomplished quarterback,
the more dangerous quarterback.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Both are great.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
But if anybody should be banging on a door somewhere,
it's Josh Allen saying the Brandon being the GM of
the bill, it's time to redo this contract.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, why did they wait until Sunday morning to get
that thing done?
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
What was the hold up?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Well, it's a deadline driven business, and if you want
to get it done before the week one game, the
clock starts striking twelve right then.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And I've been of the mindset throughout.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
The entire offseason, and it took me about twenty eight
years to finally figure this out.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Jerry Jones doesn't really care about winning.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Jerry Jones cares about being a good carnival barker, a huckster.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
He has a great sense for exposure for his team.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
And what a perfect time to drop that turd in
the NFL news punch bowl.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
And it really wasn't a turd. I mean it was
good news and it took over the news cycle.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
It pushed Tyreek Hill's situations down the stack.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Here it comes bang, they get the deal done. So
I think Jerry Jones has a flair for the dramatic.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
He loves to pick and choose his spots to make news.
He used the CD Lamb hold out during training camp
to strategically make news with the things he said about
Ceedee Lamb. So yeah, I think it happened when it
happened because everyone was paying attention to the NFL. And
here's Jerry saying, I signed my quarterback and now we're
(13:49):
going to go win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Even though deep down. I don't think he really cares.
He cares about making as much money as he.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Can, and that's fine, but let's just be transparent about
the fact that he's pretending to want to win Super
Bowls in order to make as much money as you can.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Hey, Mike, before we let you go, is there some
shenanigans going on with the forty nine ers and Christian
McCaffrey And why is the NFL mum on this?
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Well, it's good that their mum because what they could
have done in the aftermath of Christian McCaffrey having Achilles
and CAF injury limited practice Friday, Saturday and Thursday of
last week, he got my days out of order Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
They put the questionable light below him. On Saturday, after
Jordan Mason came in and had twenty eight carries one
hundred and forty plus rushing yards, he told Lisa Soldiers
(14:31):
of ESPN. She said, when did you find out you're
going to be starting? He said, Friday, Friday night something
like that.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
They knew.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
I believe when they put the questionable tag on McCaffrey,
they were going to play this game where you make
them questionable, you don't say anything to anyone, and then
he's on the list of inactive players ninety minutes before kickoffs.
And I'm not faulting the forty nine ers directly because
the system allows it. But but number one, the NFL
should change the rules, and number two, at a minimum,
you can make the argument that at some point between
(14:58):
Saturday and Monday night he became doubtful in the estimation
of the forty nine. If they just didn't in the
moment you snap your fingers and put together you're an
active let's say, hey, you know what, Kristen was more
likely to play than not, because that's what questionable kind
of means.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And now we'll just decide we're not gonna play them
at all.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
So I hope the NFL does something about it, because
if they're gonna be in bed with gambling the way
they are, it's irresponsible.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
To not demand the.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Teams do a better job of making sure that people
out there who may bet over under props, yardage, touchdowns,
et cetera. Have a guy on the fantasy team in
a big money league, you need to have more timely
information that you better make a move. And as it
turned out, I mean, what are you gonna do on
Monday nights. You got Christian McCaffrey and all your other
(15:44):
guys have played. You're gonna dump Christian McCaffrey and pick
up Jordan Mason. So I hope the NFL does something
about it because it undermines the integrity of all the
wagering that's done on the games.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk dot Com. Enjoy the weekend.
We'll talking to waste might see it. All right, all right,
Mike Florio with us, We're gonna break Factor Fiction. It's Wednesday,
It's Dick Day. Next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
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Now back to Softie and Dick Gone, your home for
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Speaker 2 (16:20):
All Right, Factor Fiction brought to you by the ameral
Quik a C. You know when a matter of a minute,
I want to apologize profusely. I said it's Wednesday, it's dictated,
it's actually Jackson Day.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Jackson was very offended by that rag my day, Jackson Day,
so he gets to go.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We'll get Jackson's pick for Factor Fiction coming up in
a matter of seconds here on the air, a little
fun with audio at three forty five, and then Petros
will join us at four o'clock today and uh he
was on Monday.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Man, all right, yeah, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Tell you right now, Edit City, Bleep City coming up
at four o'clock with Petros today. He's got like North
Texas and Texas Tech from the Fox Studios on Saturday,
so he'll be with us coming up before and then
Kevin Harlan joining us on the radio show at five o'clock.
And I don't know, I mean just going back to
that situation with de Shaan Watson. Man, imagine being a
(17:07):
Browns fan of being in that situation right now and
just stuck with this guy. The Dead Caps like seventy
five million for two years in a row. There's nothing
they can do, literally nothing they can do. And I
do buy I disagree with Mike. I do buy the
idea that Cleveland is going to any depths necessary to
get out of his contract, including planning stories about him.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I think you're right An, you know that question that
I asked Florio. I mean, there's there's a lot of
fan bases out there to Cleveland probably being the worst
because it's all guaranteed. But there's a lot of fan
bases out there going, what the hell are we doing
paying our quarterback what we're paying him? Look at the Giants,
My god, they're paying Danny Danny Dimes forty million dollars
a year. I mean, it's there's just there are far
(17:48):
more fan bases going, why are we doing this guy?
Then there are fan bases going, god, we got this
franchise guy and I don't care what we're paying him.
There's only like two or three fan bases saying that, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Well, I mean look, I mean, obviously Mahomes is worth it.
Josh Allen, I think he's worth it when they gave
him the deal. I mean that hasn't worked out. And
I tell you what, I love. I love Florio's call
on Bill Belichick to Buffalo. That might in, Yeah, that
might be a fit.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Are you kidding? Go to that blue collar place.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He's got a ready made quarterback, right, he just got
to get some defense going there.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I think mcdermy's been higher.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Franch hire a competent offensive guy to take over the
offense and run that whole thing.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That that's a hell of a call by Mike Florio
of Belichick going to Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Absolutely, I mean Dallas too, right, I mean, Dallas is
a pretty ready made offense. So if he can get that,
he would have Micah Parsons is that, you know, anchor
for the defense that he could build around it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Dallas is one.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
But the thing with Dallas is, would Jerry Jones let
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Be in control?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Right at least in at least in Buffalo, you probably
would have an owner to be like, hey, you you
do this man, We've been so close and yet we
can't get over the hump.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
We believe you're the guy that can get us over
the hump. So you take over. Well, who is the
GM in New England? Was him? With Bill Belichick's right,
He's not gonna being control in Dallas of nothing. I
mean no, I mean I.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
As long as Jerry Jones is there. And I say
this with all respect. I've talked to buddies of mine.
A cowboy fans R. J. Shoppy said the same thing.
Cowboys are not gonna be good until Jerry Jones dies.
This is not gonna happen because he's He's not gonna
give up control of the football team, and maybe Steven
Jones will, maybe his son will give up control and
hire somebody. Remember when Ken Barring was here, Jackson probably
doesn't remember that name, Ken Bearing. Jackson hired his son
(19:26):
David to be the GM of the football team, and
he knew nothing. He knew nothing about anything. It was
nepotism at its finest, okay. And that's exactly what's going
on right now in Dallas. So unless Jerry Jones dies,
nothing's gonna change in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And that's a crappy.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Feeling for a football fan to be waiting for your
owner to croak before you can turn things around. Factor
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All right.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
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Speaker 1 (20:26):
Give you a game. You get to pick.
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Speaker 1 (20:43):
Dick was slamming you. But I knew. I knew that
you had done your research.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I knew that you had something up in your sleeves.
So congratulations, young man, for sticking to your guns. I
remember it differently, jack Yeah, saying who'd you got this week?
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Uh, there's not a lot to love this week, just
because I think you guys are talking about it. There's
there's We just don't know a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Of these teams yet.
Speaker 9 (21:02):
I do see a game between the Baltimore Ravens and
the Las Vegas Raiders, and we know the Ravens have
extra rest, they're coming off the extra few days. They're
coming home I think angry after losing the opener barely
to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, they look pretty good.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Uh, they looked really good. And this is a Raiders
team that stinks. I mean they really really stink. Ten
points against the very mid Chargers defense. That line has
the Ravens by eight and a half right now. I
think they win that game by at least twenty. I
think they just murder them. I think they wife the
floor with the Raiders and then use them just as
(21:38):
a broom at the end of the game. So give
me the Baltimore Ravens minus eight and a half at
home against the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Against Gardner Minshew Ravens minus the eight and a half
at home against the Raiders. I had a guy tweet
me today, some Cougar fan on Twitter saying, yeah, well,
guess what guess somebody's starting quarterbacks throw on the NFL
Cougars have won and you have none.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Like that's not they got a crap so they gotta
grab something. Man, Just embarrassing. And we have one starting
quarterback and you have none.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
With the hell like I'm supposed to go up and
cry about that for God's sakes, all right, Jackson likes
the Ravens minus the eight and a half against the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You like it your text, In fact, you hate it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It's fiction to four nine, four to five one, all
courtesy of the emeral Queen.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well, first of all, like the bold call and the
win by twenty. See, now that's sticking you. That's sticking
your neck out a little bit. It's one thing to
say factor fiction is another thing to say they're gonna
win by twenty.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
The line is in nineteen and a half, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I like that game all the way up to ten.
I would have I would have leaned Raiders if it
got over ten. But since it's an eight and a half,
I still lean Ravens in that one. And I think
they got to get Dereck Henry more involved in the
football game. He was not very involved in that first game.
It was more it was more Justice Hill with the
little dump offs and stuff like that. So let's just
pound pound pound and you don't get that twenty four
(22:50):
to ten win that we need.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Oh you want to go to Poundtown with Derek Henry, Yes, Poundtown.
I think the cool thing about Survivor is we just
got a freaking win, dude, we just got to win.
It doesn't freaking matter, right, You just gotta win, cover
the spread eight and a half and move on. And
I think Jackson can do it. I think Jackson's about
to go on a hot streak here. I think he's
about to pull off like a seven and one.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
In his next eight games. And you and I are
going to go the opposite when to let Jackson take over.
But this, this is what's happened.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
This is why we are multiple year champions in Factor fiction,
because we have someone that always gets hot and kind
of just so we never go on these long slumps
because one of the three of us is always hot,
and then when two of the three of us get
on at the same time, that's when we're in.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
By the way, do you guys notice what I just
did there? How I just corrected myself on the fly
when I said all we gotta do is win And
I can just hear you.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Going, huh, we we gotta cover you know what? I'm
thinking that because I got my survivor freaking content I
went there. I mean, too many pools.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I can't This is why I don't play fantasy football.
I can't keep track of all of this stuff. Man,
We're gonna break fun with audio. Jackson likes the Ravens
minus the eight and a half against the UH the
Vegas Raider. Excuse me, Baltimore Factor fiction to four nine,
four to five one, Get him in now courtesy of
the Emeral Queen.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Fun with Audio coming up next. It's now time for
Sufday in Dick's Fun with Audio. Jimmy g pawn Star,
Jimmy mister garoppolo. Now let's have some fun with audio.
All right, here you go on a Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Guy, there was a time about three three months ago,
two months ago, we're sitting here eyeballing this Padres series, thinking, man,
that's gonna be a big game, that might be a
World series preview, and then that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Wow, I think we're ten games up and then it's
what happened.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But we're here for the Mariners and Padres tonight, uh
six forty over at Tea Mobile Park.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Have a little fun with audio. Slash hated you hear that? Hey, Dick?
Did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 4 (24:42):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yesterday I had a press conference over in Pullman, Washington.
State head coach Jake Dickert talked about what it meant
to beat the.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Huskies in the twenty twenty one Apple Cup.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
You have won this game, when you're talking to your guys,
maybe the ones who haven't been here, what do you
tell them about the feelings of coming out on top
in this rivalry?
Speaker 10 (25:01):
And obviously that was definitely a unique moment, you know
for Washington State where we're at, what we've been through.
I mean, just the pride that I have in that
memory of that football game, and I don't think it'll
ever be tops in my football coaching career and what
that meant in that time, and obviously getting the trophy
was part of that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
So he's been taking some heat for saying that that
this will be like his biggest win ever over a
four and eight.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Probably, well it could be.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I understand what he's saying, because he was an interim
guy then, right, they were coming off of the roll
of its crap and whatever and blah blah blah. So
every different game has different context and different emotions and
all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So I understand that.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But I'm certain that Jake Dickard and Washington State Cougar
fans are hoping he gets a bigger win than that
and his coaching career at some point.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
But I get what he's I don't I mean, we
get what he means, will he at Washington State? I
don't know, maybe, maybe not, but yeah, they got that win.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I also know that you know that Husky team was
in shambles to a point that we have not seen
since the end of the two thousand.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And eight season.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Absolutely yeah, and it's not there's not even a close second.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So hey, Bob, good on him for winning. Yeap, good
on him for winning.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
They had Bob Gregory's a head coach who what has
he done since?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And a freshman quarterback who I felt terrible for that
he was even starting exactly right, I said that, poor bastard.
They're throwing him out there and saying, be our savior.
Go win a game. Go get your opportunity to save
our ass against our biggest rival or second biggest rival
some say, and go win the game. As an eighteen
year old, I thought it was horrible what they did
to Sam Hewart in that game.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Terrible. All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
After Cougar practice yesterday, WSU safety Tyson Durant providing some
bulletin board material for Husky quarterback Will Rogers while talking
about his limitations.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
You've seen the film Tyson Will Rodgers likes to get
that ball out quick.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
What challenges does he present for you guys?
Speaker 11 (27:00):
Uh, I would say, you know, he's a he's a
pretty accurate passer, not much on the legs. He can
get loose, but he's not too much on the running side.
I know he's coming from air raid as well, so
they're trying to fit him in a pro style offense.
So I know that might be a little difficult for him.
So we can just shake him up under the center
and get some pressure, get some people in his face.
I know he hasn't even face near the D line
(27:20):
we have over here, so we get some pressure on him.
He's I think he's gonna shruggle.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, I would say he's right that the Cougar D
line is better than Weaver State and Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I mean, and they better be. If they're not, then
they're a number two.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I actually asked Brendan Carroll about that yesterday. I actually
read the quote to him at the press conference as well.
He said, every quarterback struggles under pressure. He's right, Like
if you look at the PFF rankings, like clean pocket,
dirty pocket, everybody's percentages and passer ratings go way down
when they're under pressure. Like if you're at like, if
you're at like fifty five percent, you're doing well right
(27:54):
under pressure.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
So yeah, I mean, but I you know what I
like to do, guys.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I like to twist it and turn it around to
fit my narrative and then tell the Huskies that Wazoo's talking.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Smack. That's what I'm gonna do with that clip, you
know it's talking.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, talking to Greg and Mario after the Husky hanks yesterday.
I thought it was interesting because I'm just assuming that
it's gonna be pound the rock, Pound the rock, pound
the rocket that small defensive front of Washington State, and
and Greg was like, not this when they opened up
the playbook, Man, this is when they start go guns
of blazing and throw it down. So I think it's
gonna be fascinating what Carol decides to do.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean, Jed Fish, well, Jed Fish, he's the play calls. Yes,
Jed Fish decides to do.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean, does he decide to use the pass to
set up the run and really let Will Rogers loose
with plays we haven't seen yet? Or is it just
gonna be You know what, our guys are bigger and
stronger than their guys, and their guys can't tackle number one,
so we're just gonna give him the ball twenty five times.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, I mean, I just I think Jed Fish has
a lot that he's been sitting on the first three
games of the years.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I assume Benny our Buckle does.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Is that his name, Ben Arbuckle, the twenty eight year
old play caller for Wazoo.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I mean he's got to have stuff he's sitting on too,
So this is so hard to handicap this thing that
I don't think we really know a lot about either team,
to be honest with you, all right, Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's me looking for my drop? By the way, what's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We all know the cow Golden Bears beat the Auburn
Tigers last weekend, but you may not have heard that
last week on the SEC network. Well, looking ahead of
the game and taking calls, Paul fine Bomb guaranteed that
Auburn would not lose to California.
Speaker 12 (29:30):
You mentioned it earlier this week that it is an
ACC versus SDC matchup between the Cow Golden Bears and
the Auburn Tigers. Is there any chance poll that you
think that the Auburn Tigers could be on ups to
Alert this week?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
There is no chance Auburn losers to Cal None book it.
Speaker 12 (29:50):
I could you want to take a friendly wager on
that pole? No money? No, I don't wait, man, but
I'll just I mean I made I just made a statement.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You can you can take that or not. But I
don't know how I could be anymore emphatic. Good call, Paul,
Well what we should do?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Let's make it beck and if you lose, you take
a plaster of Paris over your ears and see if
it covers your face.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
How about that? Paul?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Paul Finebaumb picks against the SEC in interconference games as
many times as Dick Baird picked against the Huskies in
the pregame show.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Oh god, it's just terrible. Come on, stupid idiot.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So Paul Finebaum's record in interconference SEC games is exactly
what the SEC's record is because he will never pick
against the conference. Is he paid by the conference?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I think he works for the SEC network, Yes, which
is owned by ESPN, So yes, he was for the SSC.
Work we got time for one more Jackson, now gotta go. Okay,
Petros Papadacus, we'll got his take on the Apple Cup
not really next on ninety three three kJ RFM
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