September 12, 2024 • 32 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain sit down with Mike Holmgren to talk about the Seahawks win over the Broncos last week, passing down in the NFL, Bo Nix, Marshawn Lynch’s visit, Jerry Jones, giant quarterback contracts, and the Patriots.
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Speaker 3 (01:16):
How are you, my god? We haven't seen you in
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Speaker 4 (01:18):
I know you look good. I know it's you know,
what's good to see you guys? Really is? I uh,
I'm glad I'm still healthy enough to get back in
this thing. So, you know, football season, I'll tell you honestly,
I'm glad. Preseason's over though. Yeah, the preseason for me
has really changed over the years. You know, the teams
aren't playing anybody, and then they expect those guys to
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shoot lights out in the opening game. And we saw
it last week. There was some there were a little
rust on the tires, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Yeah, last week we saw thirty four passing touchdowns total.
Last week three years ago was sixty one passing total
touchdowns and one hundred and eighty yards passing coach. I mean,
we're getting thrown back to the nineteen fifties right now.
Why is the passing game? Why does it struggle so
much now with no preseason games?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I don't know. I think I think I think that
they come into that first game and everyone's cranked up,
and the speed, everything's different than what they were used
to in the preseason, and and then they have to adjust,
and then it takes maybe a game two, maybe three
right before they kind of start hitting it. Last week,
bow knicks through forty nine passes right for one hundred
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and thirty two yards or something. Yeah, that's like two yards.
I don't know what it was, but it was three
yards in attempt. Yeah, it was not good. So but
I'm glad the regular season has started.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, I'm totally with you. In the preseason, man, I
can't stand it. And I've hated the preseason since you
coach thought it was worthless back then. So if I
hated it, then what do you think I think now
about the preseason? It's unbelievable. But you mentioned something off
the ear against the Denver bro or about Denver, and
I mean I generally agree that they're they're not a
very good offensive football team. Defensive of the might be okay,
but offense, I mean Bo Nicks throws the ball forty
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two times for like one hundred and thirty yards.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I mean, just nothing out of that kid.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
If you're a Bronco fan watching what you saw a
week ago, how concerned are you about what you saw
on bon Nicks and the rest of that offense.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I well, I was a little disappointed. I have a
lot of confidence and respect for Sean Payton. I think
he's a great coach. He's an offensive guy and quite
frankly and Bo Knicks in college. When I watched him
play in college, you know, he was really good. I mean,
I know why they picked him in the first round.
But it didn't work. It wasn't working. Now, give credit
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to the Seahawks because they tackled very well on defense.
They had a good defensive tackling game, but every ball
was a little checked down. They didn't challenge that.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He got to that's what he did at Oregon for
the most part, checked down.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Charlie.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, every now and then he'd check it over the top,
but that's what he did at Orgon Okay, talked about
that same thing when they played the Huskies.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
He just that's what he does. I mean, can you
take it?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Can you draft a quarterback that high if he doesn't
have that ability to stretch the field?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
No, you have to. Well that's a good point. I
would say, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, But if
you're looking at film of his college film and he
won a lot of games, their teams are good, but
you also are evaluating the type of throws he's making
outside the numbers, down the middle, length to throw, all
those things factor in. And if what you said Dave
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was he didn't that wasn't his game, right, then then
you kind of you're taking a chance. You're taking a
little bit of a chance.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Well, I've noticed many times when he was with the
Oregon planning against Washington and lost all three times.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
By the way, coach, every time he dropped back.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
To pass and looked downfield, I kind of exhaled because
I knew it was probably going to be inaccurate.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
And that's how I've always felt about bon Nick.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
So my question to you is, if you were Sean Payton,
would you have started him in Week one? You've got
veteran quarterbacks and Jared Stidham and Zach Wilson. Neither of
them are great shakes, but at least they've been in
the battles before in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, but I'm I'm gonna. I was always under the
belief that if you can, if you get a rookie
and and you think he's ready to play, and you
more importantly, he won't get hurt. You got an offensive
line that's pretty good, you can run the ball, and
it's he's he learns faster playing than he does watching. Now,
(05:22):
having said that the game the other day, the protection
of the offensive line, didn't you know, he didn't You
couldn't check those boxes. I don't think. Yeah, And so
to your point, if that's the case, then you play
the veteran. You play the veteran. Have him watch look
what they're doing with Pennix. Quite honestly, that could change
rather quickly, you know, But that's the decision you have
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to make. I'm I would play him if I felt
good about those other areas.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, Well, you saw the game last Sunday Seahawks and Denver.
What were your kind of early impressions of Ryan Grubb
the offensive coordinator calling plays at that level versus what
he was doing in college.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Well, I liked the safeties, you know, did you like
the safeties?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I loved him.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
There was almost three of them. I thought, we're gonna
send a new safety, a new safety record, an all
time safety record. No. I I have tremendous respect for him.
He's a he's a he's a fine coach and a
bright guy, and and he showed it. I think where
you really saw it is how their halftime adjustments and
they came out they were a different team in the
second half, and they featured Walker, and you know then
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that then the game went the way it was supposed
to go. I would say this, I thought they were
very fortunate the fact that they played Denver in the opener.
So I think it's a it's a learning process. It's
a new coaching staff, new players, a lot of new
players that getting getting it on flowing exactly the way
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you want it. That'll take some time.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I was sitting there in the second quarter when we
were continuing to take sacks and penalties on the offensive
line before they got reped up, and I thought, what
would coach Holmgren be doing right now on the sideline,
So what would your fume level be?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Or because it was week one.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Would you have been just the kind patient coach saying,
these guys are going to figure it out. No.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I have tremendous respect for how Mike McDonald handled all that. Yeah,
because I was thinking, Dick, to your point, I was thinking, now,
you know, I was very mellow on the sideline. Yeah,
but I would have been going, would my coaches, everybody,
would anyone within arms reach would have been in hearing it,
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you know, because you can't start the game that way. Yeah,
but every coach does it differently. And like I said,
I do respect Mike for how he ant.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Why did it change in your mind?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Well, I think they got early on. Remember their field
position was just Denver. The one good thing Denver did
was get them into tough positions, you know, to start
their drives. They were to push down in there, and
so you know, that's what happened, I think. And then
the thing changed, the field position thing changed the uh
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nixt through that interception. You know, it just was and
and and Gino had a tough that interception he threw early.
You can't you go. You can't start the game that way,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Dick and I actually had a conversation about that because
you thought it was more about the guy hitting his foot,
And I said, I think it was part of it,
but I think there was all There had to be
some miscommunication with somebody on that throw.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
What did you see there?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
That's what I thought too. I thought, I thought it
was such such a bad thing that the thing on
his foot that had to enter into it somehow because
it wasn't even close to anybody. It wasn't a receiver anywhere,
So that had the factor into it. But then where
was it? Where was he going with the ball that
there wasn't anybody there?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
He was so far off whatever target.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And then just to kind of follow up on that,
because you mentioned Ryan Grubb there. You've always been an
emotional guy. Maybe you don't show it a lot. Well,
you kind of do show it a lot. Maybe you
don't show it as much as he used to.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
YEA.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Honestly, you know Sean Payton a little bit. How perturbed
is he behind the scenes that a rookie head coach
beat him in week one?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
He's really perturbed? Good, No, Sean's he's a fiery guy. Yeah, Now,
I thought he he handled in his postgame comments and
all that kind of stuff, I'm going I just put
a smile on my face and I goes, Now, that
is as much BS as I've ever heard from anybody
after a game like that.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Now you know, right, you're on this side, now you
know yeah, God.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
On the defensive side of the ball, coach, I don't
think I've seen a Seahawks team tackle like that in
probably eight or nine years.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
So how does that change on a dime like that?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
We went from missing tackles left and right for the
last five six years to that.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah, I think it shows the new head coach is
a defensive guy. He believes in certain things, strongly believes
in certain things, and that's how they practice. That's how
he teaches it. And they the players then responded, I
was most impressed with I think they have a really
I think they have a really good secondary. I didn't
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know enough about the linebackers. I didn't know how they
were gonna play. Those guys played well, they tackled well,
they moved well, and so they I think their defense
over the course of the season is and hopefully everyone
stays healthy. But I think they got a really good
defensive team. You know, Now, they gotta get a little
pass rush and somebody get into the quarterback a little
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bit more. But no, you're right, Dick, that they really
impressed me with that part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
That's a great starting point for the defense. Awesome starting Yeah,
how much of it they did that? By the way,
second most pressures in the NFL this week? How much
of it is Denver and well Knicks We're gonna find out.
I don't even know if we really know a lot
until they faced two and the Dolphins in Week three
because they got obviously the the Patriots in Persett on
Sunday and five Borough. But just going back to that game,
(11:02):
there's a there's a moment in the game where Marshawn
Lynch is on the sideline you see this, Yeah, and
he walks up to Mike McDonald's during the game, right
like during the game, Jackson, I might right about this
is during the game, not like pregame first and he's
like rubbing and.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
She's like, hey, calm down.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
It's like he's not even on the on the team,
Like how does he get that deep into the bench?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
First of all, and then second of all.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Maybe you'd have a different reaction to it than a
thirty five year old, But if you turn around and
like you showed up here ninety nine and all of
a sudden, like Kurt Warner's rubbing your shoulders, right, not
the quarterback, but the old running back.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
What's your reaction?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You know my reaction. I was asked that earlier. This
was no. I when I was watching it, I'm going
I thought it was they've flipped a pregame thing.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That's what I thought, warm.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Up thing, right, But it's during the game. It's during
the game. I'm going, Martian, I couldn't. I would, I'd
have go off. I told this story about the guy
who gave me the yacht in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, tell that story.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Oh no, the guy got a yacht in Green Bay.
The guy gave me a yacht. He took him out.
They taught me out of out in Lake Michigan. He
was in Milwaukee, owned this very wealthy own this okay.
So the first game, our first game, this is warm
ups in the first game, and I'm standing there at
midfield looking around, and all of a sudden, I hear
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this is great, isn't it. And I go and I
see the guy, the yacht guy, standing right next to me.
So I said, what are you doing? Out here. Oh no, no,
you know that was part of the dal I give
you the yacht, you know, and I go, I got
my security, I go, come here, take him. He can't
be out here, can't off.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Did you have to give the back?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Oh yeah. Two weeks later the yachts gone. Ah.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Wouldn't it worth the yacht to have to stick with you?
Of course it would have.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I see, But we're all wired differently. Mike McDonald handled
that beautifully.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
God, somebody do whatever the hell they want. They can
call the first player totally.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I kicked Hanna's storm off the way you know she was.
She was the first announcer that was on the field,
but they had to stay outside the thirty yard lines.
I turned around in the middle game and behind the bench.
So I turn around. She's talking to a player on
the bench behind me, and I go, hey, you can't
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do this. Get out. They security, get her out. She
was really mad at me, mean guy, the rules are
the rules.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Well he's different now, Ross, You's.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Don't come into my office before the game, and certainly
don't stand next to me on the field saying isn't this.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Great party pooper?
Speaker 5 (13:43):
What's the what's the toughest thing that Mike McDonald's going
to go through the next four to six weeks because
he's obviously going to face an adversity.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
What's what's going to be the hardest thing for him
to adjust to.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I think, you know, the I think the team him.
They have to get better in certain areas. They have
to get better in the offensive line. I think it's
going to be a challenge, and he's going to have conversations.
I'm sure with coach Grubb you know about all that
kind of stuff. But you know, dealing with he got
off to a great start and he won the first
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game and smiling and everyone happy. Now, if you how
do you deal with a tough loss, how do you
how do you rally the troops, how do you get
them thinking, okay, we we still have a lot of
football left to play. And just just how his role
has expanded, you know, dealing with the press, dealing with
(14:37):
the whole the whole building. Yeah, so those are the challenges.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I would say I've said this before, he is an
oppressive young guy, and uh, you know, I I think
he's going to do fine.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I still can't believe he chucked the guy off the
sideline who gave you a free yacht just because.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
He wanted to watch the game.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
God, how much were you making there where you could
get away with doing that?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You know it was a port of Finale forty three.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I don't even know what I don't even know what
that is, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
As one of those George Kleey Well, and you could
have had one the two guys and all you had
to do was let the guy watch the game from
the sideline, and you blew it. He can't be there,
good lord man. The hope Kathy was pissed at you
for that. I would never let you hear the end
of she doesn't like she didn't like those? All right,
we'll get a break. Mike Homgrin with us on the
radio show. A lot more to come, including a take
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on the Patriot game coming up on Sunday. Bill Belichick,
maybe on the way back to coaching your buddy Jerry
just couldn't help himself gave Dax sixty million a year
On Sunday Morning, Tyreek Hill situation as well with Mike
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buddy Jerry Jones, yeah, who you once famously told us
that story about him drawing dollar signs on a cocktail
(16:57):
napkin during a meeting.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Uh, just couldn't help himself.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Like, I mean, does he want to have the highest
paid quarterback in the NFL. It's not like a badge
of honor for him wakes up on Sunday morning and
hands Dak Prescott sixty million bucks a year.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
No, I think, you know what, I think a couple
of things. I think Jerry's now eighty two years old,
and uh, he had that's a that's a really good player.
And so it's kind of the short term answer. And
and and you know what, the way quarterbacks are getting paid,
I really thought he was going to pay him. You know, Dick,
(17:31):
you didn't think it was gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
But I thought he'd waited so long, and I thought, why,
let's just play this season out and see how Dak does.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, I thought, But you know, there was so much.
There was so much about it. And it's Dallas, it's
it's the Star, it's it's that whole thing that. Uh
and then you know they said, I think I read
somewhere where the Cowboys the team is worth now.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, it's like six billion, right, Uh, double.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
That eleven billion dollars. So, oh, Jerry can't afford it.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Yeah, you know, well, I was a little surprised at
his rationale.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I don't know if he's if you saw him what
he say.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
He said every time, quote, every time we've made someone
the highest paid, like Troy Aikman, we've won the Super Bowl.
Well I went back and checked. He signed Troy Aikman
on December twenty fourth, nineteen ninety three. They'd already won
two of their three Super Bowls before he made him
the highest paid. So to me, that's kind of creating
a narrative a little bit here.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Do you think I think, you know what, if anyone
can do a good job of that, Yeah, he's the man.
I've seen him in action at an owner's meetings when
he's talking to the just the owners and stuff, and
they listen. And he's been good for the league as
far as increasing revenues, and he's just he's gifted that way.
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And but I think with his team, he cares. He
I'll tell you what. He cares about his football team
a lot. And he and he takes great pride being
the general manager and the decision maker. Yeah, the last
the guy who makes the final decision. Well, that's never
going to change.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah. But here's the thing that I have a problem with.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
First of all, he bought the team hr bum Bright
you know that name, former owner of the Dallas Cowboys
nineteen eighty nine, for one hundred and forty million dollars. Yeah,
and you said they're worth what now, eleven billion, eleven
hundred times billion dollars. So he's made a ton of money,
no question about. He's gonna leave it to Steven when
when he goes. But your point, if I'm doing a
(19:30):
show in Dallas, I'm saying, if Jerry Jones really cares
about the football team, then why doesn't he hire a
competent GM to run the damn thing for him?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
He doesn't because he already has the competent GM himself.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
But he's not. Well, you give him into the conference
title game in thirty years.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And then he'd come back said they won twelve games,
twelve games, twelve games, twelve games, twelve you know, and
Dick and I were talking about it before we went
on the air. You know, that's all good, that's all good,
and then they get the playoffs and boom, you know,
it just gets you know, happens. Why why? I don't know.
It's a mystery, because they are really good. You watch
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Dak Prescott play. When I watch him play, I'm going
he does stuff. He throws the ball, well, he runs,
he's tough. But then all of a sudden, like their
game last year against Green Bay, Oh my goodness. I
don't know why. I don't have a good answer for it,
you know. And I have a tremendous respect for Mike McCarthy,
you know, so I don't know. Is it bad luck?
(20:29):
I don't know, But it's happened too often, you know.
I think that it's been a lot of years since
they even challenged it. He came close to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I don't know why I care about this so much,
but it just bothers me when teams give good players
elite money, and I'm glad that my team hasn't done
this quarterback position right. And every time it happens to
a team, I guess I should be rejoicing because that
puts them behind the eight ball. Why do you think
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that is? I mean, coach Tua, Dak, Daniel Jones. I
mean it just the list goes on and on and on.
There's six or seven quarterbacks up there in the in
the highest echelon of salary that have not done anything
of note.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah, well, I think you can make an argument or
a case for Dak being better than Daniel Jones. Oh complete,
you know, but Daniel Jones to your point, that's that's
a head scratcher, that really is.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I think if you in this day and age, it
seems like you got to win now, and it seems
like owners have very little patience now for the coach
and perhaps the general manager. You know, if if they
don't they don't have that quarterback, you can make a case.
I remember Paul Allen asking me, you know, when we
were building it in the beginning, and we didn't you know,
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we had kidna, we had some quarterbacks, and we hadn't
really found you know, Matt had before Matt Kane. And
Paul said, how long will it be before we're good? Yeah? Yeah,
he was being honest. I said, I said, we'll be
good in two years and that shocked the inner circle there.
(22:11):
That shocked that I would say that to the owner. Yeah, yeah, shoot,
I was just trying to be honest with him, and
we we eventually did become better and good than that time.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
What did they expect you.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
To say to him, Oh, no, we're fighting. I don't
know what.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
I don't know, like, oh, we can win right now.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
We got the you know, we just needed this a
little bit here, a little bit there, you know, but
they were building the new stadium where you know, all
sorts of stuff was happening.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, you should have told Paul, why do you shut
up and let me coach the team?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
How do you think that I want to gone that
that one thing I told the yacht guy that I
wasn't gonna tell my owner you.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Lost your boat. Well, my congrens were with us.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So Patriots Seahawks on Sunday, uh from from Foxborough.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
It's a Patriot team that's kind of devoid of a
lot of offensive skilled talent. They got a running back
named Remandre Stevenson, which is really kind of all. They have,
not a lot of wide receivers. A cover perc obviously
is at quarterback. I mean just on the surface. Does
this feel like the kind of game the Seahawks should win?
Ors it feel like a defensive slog that could be
decided in the last maybe two minutes.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
No, I think it's going to be closer than people think. Uh,
going into the start of the season, who would who
would Dick? You're you're a great prognosticators.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
But since he would, I love that one. He loves
them when I take terrible teams plus the point.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
But Cincinnati versus New England last week, I think the
majority of the people thought's totally of course, and then
I was shocked when I saw the score. So you
know what I thought, starting this season with these two teams,
with the Seahawks starting the season with Denver and New England,
they can get off to a two and zero start
and then all of a sudden, we'll see what happens.
(23:51):
You know now, I think Denver New England will play
very good defense. They'll play good defense, and the Seahawks
are gonna have to stop their running game. But I
think it's going to be low scoring. I think it's
gonna be low scoring.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
How much do you change your play calling offensively knowing
that the other team probably isn't gonna score much on
your defense?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, I you know what, I never that didn't affect
me all that much.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Good for you.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
It's my job to score points and get get. You know,
when I was gonna do what I had to do,
I didn't really think about, Okay, it's gonna be unless
that we were really overmatched and early in our games
a couple games with against Dallas in my career, Yeah,
they got a much better team and I knew that,
so I was gonna play the game. We're gonna shorten
everything there, you know, shorten the game if we can
(24:41):
run the ball, kick field goals, make it that type
of game. But once we got once you got your team,
and you think you have your team and you have
your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Ye hey, speaking of the Patriots, real quick, Bill Belichick.
I'm sure that name will come up a lot on
the broadcast on Sunday. The report out that he wants
to get back, but he wants to be picky and
Choosey Florio Your Power, Your Face writer Mike Florio mentioned
Buffalo as a potential destination. What about Dallas if it
doesn't work out with McCarthy this year, If you had
to call where Bill Belichick coaches next year, does Jerry
(25:09):
calm if things don't work out with Mike down there?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Absolutely that could happen. Yeah, absolutely, that could happen. I'm
a little surprised of Bill. Mike goodness, you know, he
coached for so long and was so good that he's
just anxiously there's other things in life.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
He's one hundred years old, actually died last week.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
You didn't know, you know what. And I'm older than
he is.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
He's got a hot girlfriend, though, do you just see that?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Well, she's twenty four.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
That's incredible. What does Kathy think about that?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Well, I can't say it on the air, but when
I go off the air, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Don all right, Hey, we'll see you next week. All right,
got it? Mike Holmgren, good stuff with him.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
We're gonna break round here from Jet Fish a little
bit before the Apple Cup Saturday next on ninety three
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Speaker 1 (25:50):
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Speaker 2 (26:05):
Al right back here at Jimmy's on first will Mike
homeg gonna be home before kickoff of the game tonight.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
He lives just down the street. Yes, I believe he.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I'm sure he's in the car right now cruising, you know,
cruising with his son roof Oprin, his sunglasses on the
whole thing. So we got NFL football coming up tonight
at five point fifteen. Bill's and Dolphins Apple Cup though
on Saturday eight thirty. Pre game twelve thirty kickoff right
here on ninety three to three KJRF. I'm gonna be
at the Gandry right next door here for the pregame show.
(26:38):
Jimmy's right here for the postgame show. Had a chance
to catch up with Jed did the Fish before the
game today, and I asked him, does he have a
little bit of extra juice for this game on Saturday?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
I think our practices have been a little bit livelier.
There's a little bit more pop in every hit.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
There's a little bit more.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Energy out there when we start practic this. But I
try to remind them that this is a process and
we have to go through this process and see can
we play as a team on Saturday and then enjoy.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
It at the end.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Lots of things I like, facing a dual threat quarterback
is not one of them. Tell me about facing Johnny
Mattier and the challenges for your defense on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Yeah, there's nothing fun about facing a dual direct quarterback.
That's just the bottom line. When they can do both,
that's a challenge. So our guys are locked in. They
know it's a great challenge. They know they're gonna have
to play at their best and that we're gonna have
to have our eyes locked in on that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
You and I talked a lot over the offseason about
the offensive line was number one. My biggest kind of
thing to keep an eye on. How much has that
group improved in just the last eight quarters of football.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
And they're getting better two hundred yards rushing two weeks
in a row, not giving up sacks. So you know,
that's what the offensive line is responsible to do. So
we got to get a lot better to be able
to as the competition continues to improve. This week, we
have to play better than we have the last two
weeks up front to be able to.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Be who we want to be.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You think about this Cougar football team and they're angry, right,
they're pissed off their hurts about their situation. A lot
of them are blaming Washington for being in the situation
they're in.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You talk to your kids about it.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Hey, you're going to get a pretty damn good punch
from these guys on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
Well, I mean they got that last year. I mean
they had to run a reverse to be able to
from the twenty eight yard line to win the football game.
If they get stopped there, then Washington State wins the
football game. It's twenty one all and it's fourth down
on the twenty eight yard line, and you know, hats
off to coach the boor for going for it there.
But that's a that is a gutsy call.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, would you have made that same call?
Speaker 7 (28:39):
No, that's a heck of a call. Hats off the
coach Grub and coach the Boar. You that's a heck
of a call.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Do you get a little more juice s up for
games like this? Oh?
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Yeah, I get two stuff for games period, But yeah,
this one this means a lot. And I recognize that,
and I know that I got to be at my
a game just like I asked our play to be.
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, The question to start was is there more juice
in the locker room? And then I asked him about juice.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
It's fine, you guys get what I'm talking about. More
juice for him, more juice for the players. You get it.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So I kind of feel like it was repetitive. The
front and the back was repetitive at whatever. Anyway, you're
too critically yourself. I suck man should be here. I
totally would have gone for it. Last year on fourth down,
I remember sitting there on the sideline, going, we have
to go for this. If we kicked the ball away,
I was working to sidelines, I was on was on
the sideline for release. We kicked this ball away, the
game's over. They're gonna get the ball back and go
(29:32):
twenty yards. Cam Woard's just gonna take off and run
put him in a field goal position, and we're gonna
lose this game and we would not have played for
the National championship. I still think it was the right call.
I'm not sure if I would have called that play,
but it was the right call.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
And I don't trying to remember exactly what I felt.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I don't just knowing me, I don't think I would
have gone forward on my own twenty nine yard line.
I mean, there was very The only time I would
go forward on my own twenty one nine yard line
is if I'm behind in the game and there's one
minute left.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
That's about the only time I think I'm going for
it there right right.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well, And that's the thing, man, is that I think
both these coaching stabs, I mean, I'm not going to
say that they're totally similar. There might be some differences,
but they went forward on fourth down from their own
whatever yard line last week against.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Eastern Michigan got the same one.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, down three to nothing, you know, the second quarter,
and they said, we gotta get going, we got to
get this thing working. And I think the analytics say
do it. But the ramifications of going for it three
totally if they are. But again, but if you let
them score and they go up ten nothing, they get
some extra gas on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Man, you never know what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So I guess my point is that we've gone from
some coaches that would never ever think about doing things
like that to two guys back to back.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And I'm even talking to the guy at the Seahawks.
Carroll never would have done that well.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I think it's all a generational thing.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I think.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
I mean, this is no absolutely.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I mean, look, look who's going for it in the
NFL and college football.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
They're all under fifty years old.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
All these guys that come into Brandon Staley's and some
of remrons like Daily.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
I mean, some of them are morons like Dan Campbell that.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Just can't Dan Campbell is not a moral, can't help
went to the nfcame and in his going for it
or not going for it, he is horrible.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Now he has done an excellent job as a head
coach at Detroit Lions, far better than I thought ever
thought he would. He is bad and it cost him
the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Weren't the Lions very good on fourth down? Last year?
I thought they were one of the best teams.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
They blew a seventeen point lead in the NFC. They
gave the forty nine ers ulla on short fields because
they were going.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I understand that. But they're just doing what they've done
the entire year. That's right, and it cost him in
that game. I totally understand that. But they were very good.
I thought they were amongst the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And they.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I mean he's just saying, hey, just do what we've done,
b B who we've been and it just didn't work out.
And I mean he probably had the right maybe had
the right play call. The players just blew it and
I didn't execute. But I mean there's for me, it's
just a balance.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Just the fact check that really quick.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Detroit finished third team in the NFL with a fifty
three point three percent four terrible.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
But I mean the point is, why do we actually
why do we have to be all or nothing? Like
it's almost like that's the way we are on this world,
right Like why do we have to be all on
one side or all on the other side? And guys
like Dan Campbell and Brandon Staley, mean they're just pedal
to the metal all the time, and I just think
that is a poor way.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
To go through coaching NFL teams.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Let's uh, let's do this. We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
We got Dolphins, we got Bills coming up at five
point fifteen, give you the headlines, preview the Mariner game.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
We're live with Jimmy's all coming up.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
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Speaker 3 (01:16):
How are you, my god? We haven't seen you in
like a year.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I know you look good. I know it's you know,
what's good to see you guys? Really is? I uh,
I'm glad I'm still healthy enough to get back in
this thing. So, you know, football season, I'll tell you honestly,
I'm glad. Preseason's over though. Yeah, the preseason for me
has really changed over the years. You know, the teams
aren't playing anybody, and then they expect those guys to
(01:41):
shoot lights out in the opening game. And we saw
it last week. There was some there were a little
rust on the tires, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Yeah, last week we saw thirty four passing touchdowns total.
Last week three years ago was sixty one passing total
touchdowns and one hundred and eighty yards passing coach. I mean,
we're getting thrown back to the nineteen fifties right now.
Why is the passing game? Why does it struggle so
much now with no preseason games?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I don't know. I think I think I think that
they come into that first game and everyone's cranked up,
and the speed, everything's different than what they were used
to in the preseason, and and then they have to adjust,
and then it takes maybe a game two, maybe three
right before they kind of start hitting it. Last week,
bow knicks through forty nine passes right for one hundred
(02:31):
and thirty two yards or something. Yeah, that's like two yards.
I don't know what it was, but it was three
yards in attempt. Yeah, it was not good. So but
I'm glad the regular season has started.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, I'm totally with you. In the preseason, man, I
can't stand it. And I've hated the preseason since you
coach thought it was worthless back then. So if I
hated it, then what do you think I think now
about the preseason? It's unbelievable. But you mentioned something off
the ear against the Denver bro or about Denver, and
I mean I generally agree that they're they're not a
very good offensive football team. Defensive of the might be okay,
but offense, I mean Bo Nicks throws the ball forty
(03:03):
two times for like one hundred and thirty yards.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I mean, just nothing out of that kid.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
If you're a Bronco fan watching what you saw a
week ago, how concerned are you about what you saw
on bon Nicks and the rest of that offense.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I well, I was a little disappointed. I have a
lot of confidence and respect for Sean Payton. I think
he's a great coach. He's an offensive guy and quite
frankly and Bo Knicks in college. When I watched him
play in college, you know, he was really good. I mean,
I know why they picked him in the first round.
But it didn't work. It wasn't working. Now, give credit
(03:38):
to the Seahawks because they tackled very well on defense.
They had a good defensive tackling game, but every ball
was a little checked down. They didn't challenge that.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He got to that's what he did at Oregon for
the most part, checked down.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Charlie.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, every now and then he'd check it over the top,
but that's what he did at Orgon Okay, talked about
that same thing when they played the Huskies.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
He just that's what he does. I mean, can you
take it?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Can you draft a quarterback that high if he doesn't
have that ability to stretch the field?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
No, you have to. Well that's a good point. I
would say, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, But if
you're looking at film of his college film and he
won a lot of games, their teams are good, but
you also are evaluating the type of throws he's making
outside the numbers, down the middle, length to throw, all
those things factor in. And if what you said Dave
(04:25):
was he didn't that wasn't his game, right, then then
you kind of you're taking a chance. You're taking a
little bit of a chance.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Well, I've noticed many times when he was with the
Oregon planning against Washington and lost all three times.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
By the way, coach, every time he dropped back.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
To pass and looked downfield, I kind of exhaled because
I knew it was probably going to be inaccurate.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
And that's how I've always felt about bon Nick.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
So my question to you is, if you were Sean Payton,
would you have started him in Week one? You've got
veteran quarterbacks and Jared Stidham and Zach Wilson. Neither of
them are great shakes, but at least they've been in
the battles before in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, but I'm I'm gonna. I was always under the
belief that if you can, if you get a rookie
and and you think he's ready to play, and you
more importantly, he won't get hurt. You got an offensive
line that's pretty good, you can run the ball, and
it's he's he learns faster playing than he does watching. Now,
(05:22):
having said that the game the other day, the protection
of the offensive line, didn't you know, he didn't You
couldn't check those boxes. I don't think. Yeah, And so
to your point, if that's the case, then you play
the veteran. You play the veteran. Have him watch look
what they're doing with Pennix. Quite honestly, that could change
rather quickly, you know, But that's the decision you have
(05:45):
to make. I'm I would play him if I felt
good about those other areas.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, Well, you saw the game last Sunday Seahawks and Denver.
What were your kind of early impressions of Ryan Grubb
the offensive coordinator calling plays at that level versus what
he was doing in college.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Well, I liked the safeties, you know, did you like
the safeties?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I loved him.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
There was almost three of them. I thought, we're gonna
send a new safety, a new safety record, an all
time safety record. No. I I have tremendous respect for him.
He's a he's a he's a fine coach and a
bright guy, and and he showed it. I think where
you really saw it is how their halftime adjustments and
they came out they were a different team in the
second half, and they featured Walker, and you know then
(06:27):
that then the game went the way it was supposed
to go. I would say this, I thought they were
very fortunate the fact that they played Denver in the opener.
So I think it's a it's a learning process. It's
a new coaching staff, new players, a lot of new
players that getting getting it on flowing exactly the way
(06:48):
you want it. That'll take some time.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I was sitting there in the second quarter when we
were continuing to take sacks and penalties on the offensive
line before they got reped up, and I thought, what
would coach Holmgren be doing right now on the sideline,
So what would your fume level be?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Or because it was week one.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Would you have been just the kind patient coach saying,
these guys are going to figure it out. No.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I have tremendous respect for how Mike McDonald handled all that. Yeah,
because I was thinking, Dick, to your point, I was thinking, now,
you know, I was very mellow on the sideline. Yeah,
but I would have been going, would my coaches, everybody,
would anyone within arms reach would have been in hearing it,
(07:34):
you know, because you can't start the game that way. Yeah,
but every coach does it differently. And like I said,
I do respect Mike for how he ant.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Why did it change in your mind?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Well, I think they got early on. Remember their field
position was just Denver. The one good thing Denver did
was get them into tough positions, you know, to start
their drives. They were to push down in there, and
so you know, that's what happened, I think. And then
the thing changed, the field position thing changed the uh
(08:09):
nixt through that interception. You know, it just was and
and and Gino had a tough that interception he threw early.
You can't you go. You can't start the game that way,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Dick and I actually had a conversation about that because
you thought it was more about the guy hitting his foot,
And I said, I think it was part of it,
but I think there was all There had to be
some miscommunication with somebody on that throw.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
What did you see there?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
That's what I thought too. I thought, I thought it
was such such a bad thing that the thing on
his foot that had to enter into it somehow because
it wasn't even close to anybody. It wasn't a receiver anywhere,
So that had the factor into it. But then where
was it? Where was he going with the ball that
there wasn't anybody there?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
He was so far off whatever target.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And then just to kind of follow up on that,
because you mentioned Ryan Grubb there. You've always been an
emotional guy. Maybe you don't show it a lot. Well,
you kind of do show it a lot. Maybe you
don't show it as much as he used to.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
YEA.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Honestly, you know Sean Payton a little bit. How perturbed
is he behind the scenes that a rookie head coach
beat him in week one?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
He's really perturbed? Good, No, Sean's he's a fiery guy. Yeah, Now,
I thought he he handled in his postgame comments and
all that kind of stuff, I'm going I just put
a smile on my face and I goes, Now, that
is as much BS as I've ever heard from anybody
after a game like that.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Now you know, right, you're on this side, now you
know yeah, God.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
On the defensive side of the ball, coach, I don't
think I've seen a Seahawks team tackle like that in
probably eight or nine years.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
So how does that change on a dime like that?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
We went from missing tackles left and right for the
last five six years to that.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah, I think it shows the new head coach is
a defensive guy. He believes in certain things, strongly believes
in certain things, and that's how they practice. That's how
he teaches it. And they the players then responded, I
was most impressed with I think they have a really
I think they have a really good secondary. I didn't
(10:14):
know enough about the linebackers. I didn't know how they
were gonna play. Those guys played well, they tackled well,
they moved well, and so they I think their defense
over the course of the season is and hopefully everyone
stays healthy. But I think they got a really good
defensive team. You know, Now, they gotta get a little
pass rush and somebody get into the quarterback a little
(10:35):
bit more. But no, you're right, Dick, that they really
impressed me with that part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
That's a great starting point for the defense. Awesome starting Yeah,
how much of it they did that? By the way,
second most pressures in the NFL this week? How much
of it is Denver and well Knicks We're gonna find out.
I don't even know if we really know a lot
until they faced two and the Dolphins in Week three
because they got obviously the the Patriots in Persett on
Sunday and five Borough. But just going back to that game,
(11:02):
there's a there's a moment in the game where Marshawn
Lynch is on the sideline you see this, Yeah, and
he walks up to Mike McDonald's during the game, right
like during the game, Jackson, I might right about this
is during the game, not like pregame first and he's
like rubbing and.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
She's like, hey, calm down.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
It's like he's not even on the on the team,
Like how does he get that deep into the bench?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
First of all, and then second of all.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Maybe you'd have a different reaction to it than a
thirty five year old, But if you turn around and
like you showed up here ninety nine and all of
a sudden, like Kurt Warner's rubbing your shoulders, right, not
the quarterback, but the old running back.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
What's your reaction?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You know my reaction. I was asked that earlier. This
was no. I when I was watching it, I'm going
I thought it was they've flipped a pregame thing.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That's what I thought, warm.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Up thing, right, But it's during the game. It's during
the game. I'm going, Martian, I couldn't. I would, I'd
have go off. I told this story about the guy
who gave me the yacht in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, tell that story.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Oh no, the guy got a yacht in Green Bay.
The guy gave me a yacht. He took him out.
They taught me out of out in Lake Michigan. He
was in Milwaukee, owned this very wealthy own this okay.
So the first game, our first game, this is warm
ups in the first game, and I'm standing there at
midfield looking around, and all of a sudden, I hear
(12:25):
this is great, isn't it. And I go and I
see the guy, the yacht guy, standing right next to me.
So I said, what are you doing? Out here. Oh no, no,
you know that was part of the dal I give
you the yacht, you know, and I go, I got
my security, I go, come here, take him. He can't
be out here, can't off.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Did you have to give the back?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Oh yeah. Two weeks later the yachts gone. Ah.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Wouldn't it worth the yacht to have to stick with you?
Of course it would have.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I see, But we're all wired differently. Mike McDonald handled
that beautifully.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
God, somebody do whatever the hell they want. They can
call the first player totally.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I kicked Hanna's storm off the way you know she was.
She was the first announcer that was on the field,
but they had to stay outside the thirty yard lines.
I turned around in the middle game and behind the bench.
So I turn around. She's talking to a player on
the bench behind me, and I go, hey, you can't
(13:24):
do this. Get out. They security, get her out. She
was really mad at me, mean guy, the rules are
the rules.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Well he's different now, Ross, You's.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Don't come into my office before the game, and certainly
don't stand next to me on the field saying isn't this.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Great party pooper?
Speaker 5 (13:43):
What's the what's the toughest thing that Mike McDonald's going
to go through the next four to six weeks because
he's obviously going to face an adversity.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
What's what's going to be the hardest thing for him
to adjust to.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I think, you know, the I think the team him.
They have to get better in certain areas. They have
to get better in the offensive line. I think it's
going to be a challenge, and he's going to have conversations.
I'm sure with coach Grubb you know about all that
kind of stuff. But you know, dealing with he got
off to a great start and he won the first
(14:16):
game and smiling and everyone happy. Now, if you how
do you deal with a tough loss, how do you
how do you rally the troops, how do you get
them thinking, okay, we we still have a lot of
football left to play. And just just how his role
has expanded, you know, dealing with the press, dealing with
(14:37):
the whole the whole building. Yeah, so those are the challenges.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I would say I've said this before, he is an
oppressive young guy, and uh, you know, I I think
he's going to do fine.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I still can't believe he chucked the guy off the
sideline who gave you a free yacht just because.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
He wanted to watch the game.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
God, how much were you making there where you could
get away with doing that?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You know it was a port of Finale forty three.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I don't even know what I don't even know what
that is, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
As one of those George Kleey Well, and you could
have had one the two guys and all you had
to do was let the guy watch the game from
the sideline, and you blew it. He can't be there,
good lord man. The hope Kathy was pissed at you
for that. I would never let you hear the end
of she doesn't like she didn't like those? All right,
we'll get a break. Mike Homgrin with us on the
radio show. A lot more to come, including a take
(15:23):
on the Patriot game coming up on Sunday. Bill Belichick,
maybe on the way back to coaching your buddy Jerry
just couldn't help himself gave Dax sixty million a year
On Sunday Morning, Tyreek Hill situation as well with Mike
Homgrin Life from Jimmy's Right Here on ninety three three KJRFF.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
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buddy Jerry Jones, yeah, who you once famously told us
that story about him drawing dollar signs on a cocktail
(16:57):
napkin during a meeting.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Uh, just couldn't help himself.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Like, I mean, does he want to have the highest
paid quarterback in the NFL. It's not like a badge
of honor for him wakes up on Sunday morning and
hands Dak Prescott sixty million bucks a year.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
No, I think, you know what, I think a couple
of things. I think Jerry's now eighty two years old,
and uh, he had that's a that's a really good player.
And so it's kind of the short term answer. And
and and you know what, the way quarterbacks are getting paid,
I really thought he was going to pay him. You know, Dick,
(17:31):
you didn't think it was gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
But I thought he'd waited so long, and I thought, why,
let's just play this season out and see how Dak does.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, I thought, But you know, there was so much.
There was so much about it. And it's Dallas, it's
it's the Star, it's it's that whole thing that. Uh
and then you know they said, I think I read
somewhere where the Cowboys the team is worth now.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, it's like six billion, right, Uh, double.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
That eleven billion dollars. So, oh, Jerry can't afford it.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Yeah, you know, well, I was a little surprised at
his rationale.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I don't know if he's if you saw him what
he say.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
He said every time, quote, every time we've made someone
the highest paid, like Troy Aikman, we've won the Super Bowl.
Well I went back and checked. He signed Troy Aikman
on December twenty fourth, nineteen ninety three. They'd already won
two of their three Super Bowls before he made him
the highest paid. So to me, that's kind of creating
a narrative a little bit here.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Do you think I think, you know what, if anyone
can do a good job of that, Yeah, he's the man.
I've seen him in action at an owner's meetings when
he's talking to the just the owners and stuff, and
they listen. And he's been good for the league as
far as increasing revenues, and he's just he's gifted that way.
(18:50):
And but I think with his team, he cares. He
I'll tell you what. He cares about his football team
a lot. And he and he takes great pride being
the general manager and the decision maker. Yeah, the last
the guy who makes the final decision. Well, that's never
going to change.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah. But here's the thing that I have a problem with.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
First of all, he bought the team hr bum Bright
you know that name, former owner of the Dallas Cowboys
nineteen eighty nine, for one hundred and forty million dollars. Yeah,
and you said they're worth what now, eleven billion, eleven
hundred times billion dollars. So he's made a ton of money,
no question about. He's gonna leave it to Steven when
when he goes. But your point, if I'm doing a
(19:30):
show in Dallas, I'm saying, if Jerry Jones really cares
about the football team, then why doesn't he hire a
competent GM to run the damn thing for him?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
He doesn't because he already has the competent GM himself.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
But he's not. Well, you give him into the conference
title game in thirty years.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And then he'd come back said they won twelve games,
twelve games, twelve games, twelve games, twelve you know, and
Dick and I were talking about it before we went
on the air. You know, that's all good, that's all good,
and then they get the playoffs and boom, you know,
it just gets you know, happens. Why why? I don't know.
It's a mystery, because they are really good. You watch
(20:06):
Dak Prescott play. When I watch him play, I'm going
he does stuff. He throws the ball, well, he runs,
he's tough. But then all of a sudden, like their
game last year against Green Bay, Oh my goodness. I
don't know why. I don't have a good answer for it,
you know. And I have a tremendous respect for Mike McCarthy,
you know, so I don't know. Is it bad luck?
(20:29):
I don't know, But it's happened too often, you know.
I think that it's been a lot of years since
they even challenged it. He came close to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I don't know why I care about this so much,
but it just bothers me when teams give good players
elite money, and I'm glad that my team hasn't done
this quarterback position right. And every time it happens to
a team, I guess I should be rejoicing because that
puts them behind the eight ball. Why do you think
(21:00):
that is? I mean, coach Tua, Dak, Daniel Jones. I
mean it just the list goes on and on and on.
There's six or seven quarterbacks up there in the in
the highest echelon of salary that have not done anything
of note.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah, well, I think you can make an argument or
a case for Dak being better than Daniel Jones. Oh complete,
you know, but Daniel Jones to your point, that's that's
a head scratcher, that really is.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I think if you in this day and age, it
seems like you got to win now, and it seems
like owners have very little patience now for the coach
and perhaps the general manager. You know, if if they
don't they don't have that quarterback, you can make a case.
I remember Paul Allen asking me, you know, when we
were building it in the beginning, and we didn't you know,
(21:50):
we had kidna, we had some quarterbacks, and we hadn't
really found you know, Matt had before Matt Kane. And
Paul said, how long will it be before we're good? Yeah? Yeah,
he was being honest. I said, I said, we'll be
good in two years and that shocked the inner circle there.
(22:11):
That shocked that I would say that to the owner. Yeah, yeah, shoot,
I was just trying to be honest with him, and
we we eventually did become better and good than that time.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
What did they expect you.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
To say to him, Oh, no, we're fighting. I don't
know what.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
I don't know, like, oh, we can win right now.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
We got the you know, we just needed this a
little bit here, a little bit there, you know, but
they were building the new stadium where you know, all
sorts of stuff was happening.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, you should have told Paul, why do you shut
up and let me coach the team?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
How do you think that I want to gone that
that one thing I told the yacht guy that I
wasn't gonna tell my owner you.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Lost your boat. Well, my congrens were with us.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So Patriots Seahawks on Sunday, uh from from Foxborough.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
It's a Patriot team that's kind of devoid of a
lot of offensive skilled talent. They got a running back
named Remandre Stevenson, which is really kind of all. They have,
not a lot of wide receivers. A cover perc obviously
is at quarterback. I mean just on the surface. Does
this feel like the kind of game the Seahawks should win?
Ors it feel like a defensive slog that could be
decided in the last maybe two minutes.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
No, I think it's going to be closer than people think. Uh,
going into the start of the season, who would who
would Dick? You're you're a great prognosticators.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
But since he would, I love that one. He loves
them when I take terrible teams plus the point.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
But Cincinnati versus New England last week, I think the
majority of the people thought's totally of course, and then
I was shocked when I saw the score. So you
know what I thought, starting this season with these two teams,
with the Seahawks starting the season with Denver and New England,
they can get off to a two and zero start
and then all of a sudden, we'll see what happens.
(23:51):
You know now, I think Denver New England will play
very good defense. They'll play good defense, and the Seahawks
are gonna have to stop their running game. But I
think it's going to be low scoring. I think it's
gonna be low scoring.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
How much do you change your play calling offensively knowing
that the other team probably isn't gonna score much on
your defense?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, I you know what, I never that didn't affect
me all that much.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Good for you.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
It's my job to score points and get get. You know,
when I was gonna do what I had to do,
I didn't really think about, Okay, it's gonna be unless
that we were really overmatched and early in our games
a couple games with against Dallas in my career, Yeah,
they got a much better team and I knew that,
so I was gonna play the game. We're gonna shorten
everything there, you know, shorten the game if we can
(24:41):
run the ball, kick field goals, make it that type
of game. But once we got once you got your team,
and you think you have your team and you have
your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Ye hey, speaking of the Patriots, real quick, Bill Belichick.
I'm sure that name will come up a lot on
the broadcast on Sunday. The report out that he wants
to get back, but he wants to be picky and
Choosey Florio Your Power, Your Face writer Mike Florio mentioned
Buffalo as a potential destination. What about Dallas if it
doesn't work out with McCarthy this year, If you had
to call where Bill Belichick coaches next year, does Jerry
(25:09):
calm if things don't work out with Mike down there?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Absolutely that could happen. Yeah, absolutely, that could happen. I'm
a little surprised of Bill. Mike goodness, you know, he
coached for so long and was so good that he's
just anxiously there's other things in life.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
He's one hundred years old, actually died last week.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
You didn't know, you know what. And I'm older than
he is.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
He's got a hot girlfriend, though, do you just see that?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Well, she's twenty four.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
That's incredible. What does Kathy think about that?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Well, I can't say it on the air, but when
I go off the air, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Don all right, Hey, we'll see you next week. All right,
got it? Mike Holmgren, good stuff with him.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
We're gonna break round here from Jet Fish a little
bit before the Apple Cup Saturday next on ninety three
three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick Gone your Home for
the Huskies and the Crooking Which Radio ninety three point
three kJ r FM.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Al right back here at Jimmy's on first will Mike
homeg gonna be home before kickoff of the game tonight.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
He lives just down the street. Yes, I believe he.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I'm sure he's in the car right now cruising, you know,
cruising with his son roof Oprin, his sunglasses on the
whole thing. So we got NFL football coming up tonight
at five point fifteen. Bill's and Dolphins Apple Cup though
on Saturday eight thirty. Pre game twelve thirty kickoff right
here on ninety three to three KJRF. I'm gonna be
at the Gandry right next door here for the pregame show.
(26:38):
Jimmy's right here for the postgame show. Had a chance
to catch up with Jed did the Fish before the
game today, and I asked him, does he have a
little bit of extra juice for this game on Saturday?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
I think our practices have been a little bit livelier.
There's a little bit more pop in every hit.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
There's a little bit more.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Energy out there when we start practic this. But I
try to remind them that this is a process and
we have to go through this process and see can
we play as a team on Saturday and then enjoy.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
It at the end.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Lots of things I like, facing a dual threat quarterback
is not one of them. Tell me about facing Johnny
Mattier and the challenges for your defense on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Yeah, there's nothing fun about facing a dual direct quarterback.
That's just the bottom line. When they can do both,
that's a challenge. So our guys are locked in. They
know it's a great challenge. They know they're gonna have
to play at their best and that we're gonna have
to have our eyes locked in on that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
You and I talked a lot over the offseason about
the offensive line was number one. My biggest kind of
thing to keep an eye on. How much has that
group improved in just the last eight quarters of football.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
And they're getting better two hundred yards rushing two weeks
in a row, not giving up sacks. So you know,
that's what the offensive line is responsible to do. So
we got to get a lot better to be able
to as the competition continues to improve. This week, we
have to play better than we have the last two
weeks up front to be able to.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Be who we want to be.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You think about this Cougar football team and they're angry, right,
they're pissed off their hurts about their situation. A lot
of them are blaming Washington for being in the situation
they're in.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You talk to your kids about it.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Hey, you're going to get a pretty damn good punch
from these guys on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
Well, I mean they got that last year. I mean
they had to run a reverse to be able to
from the twenty eight yard line to win the football game.
If they get stopped there, then Washington State wins the
football game. It's twenty one all and it's fourth down
on the twenty eight yard line, and you know, hats
off to coach the boor for going for it there.
But that's a that is a gutsy call.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, would you have made that same call?
Speaker 7 (28:39):
No, that's a heck of a call. Hats off the
coach Grub and coach the Boar. You that's a heck
of a call.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Do you get a little more juice s up for
games like this? Oh?
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Yeah, I get two stuff for games period, But yeah,
this one this means a lot. And I recognize that,
and I know that I got to be at my
a game just like I asked our play to be.
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, The question to start was is there more juice
in the locker room? And then I asked him about juice.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
It's fine, you guys get what I'm talking about. More
juice for him, more juice for the players. You get it.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So I kind of feel like it was repetitive. The
front and the back was repetitive at whatever. Anyway, you're
too critically yourself. I suck man should be here. I
totally would have gone for it. Last year on fourth down,
I remember sitting there on the sideline, going, we have
to go for this. If we kicked the ball away,
I was working to sidelines, I was on was on
the sideline for release. We kicked this ball away, the
game's over. They're gonna get the ball back and go
(29:32):
twenty yards. Cam Woard's just gonna take off and run
put him in a field goal position, and we're gonna
lose this game and we would not have played for
the National championship. I still think it was the right call.
I'm not sure if I would have called that play,
but it was the right call.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
And I don't trying to remember exactly what I felt.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I don't just knowing me, I don't think I would
have gone forward on my own twenty nine yard line.
I mean, there was very The only time I would
go forward on my own twenty one nine yard line
is if I'm behind in the game and there's one
minute left.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
That's about the only time I think I'm going for
it there right right.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well, And that's the thing, man, is that I think
both these coaching stabs, I mean, I'm not going to
say that they're totally similar. There might be some differences,
but they went forward on fourth down from their own
whatever yard line last week against.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Eastern Michigan got the same one.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, down three to nothing, you know, the second quarter,
and they said, we gotta get going, we got to
get this thing working. And I think the analytics say
do it. But the ramifications of going for it three
totally if they are. But again, but if you let
them score and they go up ten nothing, they get
some extra gas on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Man, you never know what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
So I guess my point is that we've gone from
some coaches that would never ever think about doing things
like that to two guys back to back.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And I'm even talking to the guy at the Seahawks.
Carroll never would have done that well.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I think it's all a generational thing.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I think.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
I mean, this is no absolutely.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I mean, look, look who's going for it in the
NFL and college football.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
They're all under fifty years old.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
All these guys that come into Brandon Staley's and some
of remrons like Daily.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
I mean, some of them are morons like Dan Campbell that.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Just can't Dan Campbell is not a moral, can't help
went to the nfcame and in his going for it
or not going for it, he is horrible.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Now he has done an excellent job as a head
coach at Detroit Lions, far better than I thought ever
thought he would. He is bad and it cost him
the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Weren't the Lions very good on fourth down? Last year?
I thought they were one of the best teams.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
They blew a seventeen point lead in the NFC. They
gave the forty nine ers ulla on short fields because
they were going.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I understand that. But they're just doing what they've done
the entire year. That's right, and it cost him in
that game. I totally understand that. But they were very good.
I thought they were amongst the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And they.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I mean he's just saying, hey, just do what we've done,
b B who we've been and it just didn't work out.
And I mean he probably had the right maybe had
the right play call. The players just blew it and
I didn't execute. But I mean there's for me, it's
just a balance.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Just the fact check that really quick.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Detroit finished third team in the NFL with a fifty
three point three percent four terrible.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
But I mean the point is, why do we actually
why do we have to be all or nothing? Like
it's almost like that's the way we are on this world,
right Like why do we have to be all on
one side or all on the other side? And guys
like Dan Campbell and Brandon Staley, mean they're just pedal
to the metal all the time, and I just think
that is a poor way.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
To go through coaching NFL teams.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Let's uh, let's do this. We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
We got Dolphins, we got Bills coming up at five
point fifteen, give you the headlines, preview the Mariner game.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
We're live with Jimmy's all coming up.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Stopt to Dick and Jackson right here on ninety three
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