September 17, 2024 • 33 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk about the possibly changing level of hope in the Mariners to make a run and make the playoffs, ask if college football fans are ready to pay more money, then share their Fact or Fiction pick before Fun w/ Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go the Mariners and Yankees get it on
in a crucial series for both teams.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Really at te Mobile Park.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
So I want to go around the room because you
know me, I've been on the Believe Bus now for
a while. The bus came close to veering off the cliff.
You ever see Billy Madison when the o'doyles went over
the cliff and the bus slipped on a banana peel
and the o'doyles went down in a ball of flames.
We've come this close to having that happen, and maybe
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we are already on the way to having that happen.
But I'm sensing I'm sensing that if you were a
zero on a scale of zero to ten on the
Believe Bus a week ago, that maybe you're a point five.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Maybe you're a point.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Five on this Tuesday afternoon, that maybe you're starting to
kind of come around just a little bit. You're sprinting
towards the off season, going a hut of miles an hour,
and now maybe instead of going one hundred miles an
hour towards the offseason, maybe you're going ninety five miles
an hour.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's starting to slow down just a little bit. To
maybe take a peek behind you and see what's going on?
Am I right? Am I right?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Are you serious with that question.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Dick Fate?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
No, no, I think what we're what the bus is
going one hundred miles an hour towards is worst possible scenario?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Worst possible scenario is not finishing four games out in
the wild card, in six games out in the West.
That's fine because then you can look back and say,
you know what, didn't really matter when they sky fired
Scott's service.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
They weren't gonna make it anyway.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Worst possible scenario is they finished one game out of
the wild card and we are just We go into
October just angry, fuming like Jerry. You did it again.
You misread the team again. Last year at the trade deadline,
you said they weren't good enough to make the playoffs,
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so you weren't gonna make moves, and they lost by
one game. You were wrong this year. You didn't fire
Scott after the horrible series against Detroit. Instead, you wasted
another six games where they went one in five. Then
you fired Scott, and that one in five stretch cost
you the playoff.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Let me let me jump in though, because we're talking
about two different things. Okay, what you're talking about is
what's best long term for the franchise, like just end
this be done or whatever. Frustrating not to give these
guys any reason to think everything's fine here, right, Yeah,
you're you're talking about what's best for the I'm talking
about this particular team in twenty twenty four and their
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playoff chances that.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
They have a slightly better chance now than they did
a week ago, but not that much because we're a
week closer to the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay, but again, you're slowing down. You were doing one
hundred miles an hour towards the Austins we last week
ninety four were according to Baseball Reference six days ago.
And I've been taking screenshots of this, like a luva
eight point four percent chance last Wednesday to.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Now now they're fourteen point three percent to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Is that something we should be excited about? I know,
you tell me, you tell.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Me, I mean, because I just I just put this
out on social media. I'm not surprised by the reaction,
but I got a pull here for Mariners, essentially three
games back of Minnesota and in the wild Card with the
tiebreaker going to them four back in the West with
twelve left to go. What's your level of confidence the
Mariners will make the playoffs forty three point cent, forty
three percent, zero zero, forty nine percent, little, five point
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nine decent amount one point five. So it's ninety four
to ninety three percent, say zero or little chance with
two games out in the wild Card. But again, don't forget.
And I've been seeing people talk about this on social media.
There's no one game playoff anymore, right, I mean, if
you tie the Twins, it's tiebreaker time in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
We'll get you, and the Tigers will get you.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
The only team that won't get you if you if
you win one more game against the Astros and the
three game series starting on Monday is Houston. So you
you've changed in regards to them making the playoffs incremental? Maybe, yeah,
just like a little bit right, like like nothing's really
different in the end.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You're still digging the hole.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yes, you're not stopping, right, maybe you're taking a break
for a smoke or something, but you're still digging the hole.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You haven't changed at all. No, zero.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I still haven't watched this even when there was a
perfect game through six innings, I was aware of it,
and I will say the apathy did clear, the clouds
cleared for a moment to follow the perfect game, I
still couldn't put it on the TV. I still like,
even inside of me, I said, you know what, maybe
if this gets to the eighth, ninth inning, for sure,
I'll put it on. Even in a perfect game, I
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wouldn't put it on in six. No, it's a perfect
I mean, a perfect game, is a perfect game games
it's in the perfect game.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
We were terrible.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Still applies to the fact of this baseball team is
just maddening to watch. They're boring to watch. They've annoyed
me all season. I still think it's zero percent chance.
And okay, if I was going one hundred miles per
hour on the apathy not caring, correct, you know, don't
think they're gonna miss it trained correct. Maybe I'm ninety
nine now, but that doesn't change the overall picture.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And if they win tonight, I'm gonna check in with
you tomorrow, And if they win Tuesday or Wednesday, I'll
check in with you.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Sense what other teams do that?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I like totally, I mean look, you're not you need help.
Obviously they're playing better. I mean, Jackson and I can
both admit they're playing need the Twins to really continue
to fall apart. And what's their record, like the last
twenty one games or seven and fourteen or whatever. So
the law of averages kind of tells you it's so point.
Maybe they'll turn this around, but they've got Cleveland for
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three more. They got to go to Fenway Park and
then they play Baltimore. And here's the thing about that
Baltimore series, and this applies too to the Yankees tonight
as well. That playoff race in the East isn't over yet.
I mean New York's got a three game lead on
Baltimore for the American League East Championship. That thing is
not done. Guardians have a five game lead on Kansas City.
I mean, that's closer to being done in the East,
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but that's not done either. So you're talking about facing
teams that have a lot to play for. Dick and
I both think it's nine and three minimum, Like, don't
even talk to us if you're eighting fifth correct nine
and three minimum, maybe ten and two. If the Twins
find a way to turn this around. If you win
two out of three against the Yankees, you're talking about
still having to go eight to one in your last
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nine excuse me, seven and two in your last nine
versus eight and one if you lose the series to
New York. So I just feel like the family has
been called in. They're waiting in the hallway right the
doctors and the priest is standing by. There's a slight
murmur of a heartbeat. We can't officially call the coroner yet,
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we can't officially call King County and get a death certificate.
But we got up bump, we got up ba bump,
b bump, bump.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And I can tell you, guys want to believe bad.
You want to believe I know you want to believe well.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I mean because you know in the back of your head,
if these guys get in, if they just they're gonna
have a shot with the staff.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'd love to see it. I would love to see it.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I just think there's there's a far greater chance of
them getting close and not getting in versus just dying
and going you know, three and eight in the last
eleven games. They're playing good baseball. They obviously believe right now,
But it's just so many bad decisions and bad indecisions
leading us to this point where.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Be here, nobody gets that more than me. We should
be like a wild card game one.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, I'm just saying, even if they would have just
fired Scott early, I mean, we were ten games up
as well, I understand, but let's just say everything went
like it did in August, right, we should have just
fired Scott a week earlier, and we'd be a game
behind Houston and tied in the wild Card, and we'd
be playing like this, and we'd be legitimately believe there'd
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be more than a little bump.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't be fired up for this game tonight, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Not Nobody is gonna get on you for saying they
don't have a shot. That they got a fourteen percent
chance to make it, which means they have needed six
percent chance to not make it. Okay, so we all
understand that. But I think that tonight's game is worth
paying attention to. I mean, I think when you're two
games out with twelve games left to go, four games
out with twelve games left to go, and you have
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that team staring you in the face on Monday night
in Houston, I think, if you're gonna give these guys
one more little stupid shot to earn your attention for
a couple of minutes playing the Yankees, they're playing the
American Legue, MVP and Aaron Judge get a chance to
watch this guy play. I think you go home tonight
and you flip them on and you give him a
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shot one more time, let him entertain you for a
couple of hours. They get blown out, you flip it
off and you do something else. But my night's occupied.
I'm gonna go home watch this baseball game.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I mean, that's good my nights. That's good. My night's occupied.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I'll be calling a basketball game, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But you know there's chances.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Life and I are starting mad Men season three. There
is not There's not a theod available on the man.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
There is a greater than zero percent chance that during
a break I might turn on my phone and click
on ESPN dot com and see what.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
The baseball I will be doing.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
As well, there is a non zero chance I will
say this, give me a shot. As little as I
have watched of this team, because after that A's series,
they just angered me so much. I mean that that
A's Series pissed me off so badly a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Ago that I'm like, dude, I just can't watch this anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, that's the day that we talked about kept firing
to Poto. That's the day that you and I went
on the air and actually argued about when to fire Jerry.
Fire him now or and fire him in four weeks
from now. Either way, both of us wanted him gone.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Right having said that they they have played entertaining baseball
since then. They are a more likable team with a
more likable manager than they had three weeks ago, and
so for that reason, I'm thankful.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Don't think they're making the playoffs, But for that reason.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I'm thankful the manager is not a total pain as
they actually Hey, they actually score some runs occasionally.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That's kind of fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I think the conversation then kind of revolves if they
don't make it, like, hey, do you really kind of
beg Edgar Martinez to come back and continue to be
your hitting coach next year? Do you feel more comfortable
but Dan Wilson being your full time manager, you know
next year. I still think they dropped the ball on
that I'm not saying on Dan. I'm saying, you want
Dan to be your guy, fine, make Dane your guy,
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but you gotta have a search. You got to, you know,
open this thing up and let the fan base know
that you're turning over every rock to find the right guy.
And they did not do that whatsoever. So I still
think it was mismanaged. Even if Dan Wilson ends up
being the guy, and even if they did that search
and came back to Dan Wilson, not doing the search
was still mismanaging everything. I mean, here's the deal. They
were forty four and thirty one. Because you've talked about this,
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Jackson many times. They're up ten games, forty four and
thirty one jd eighteenth of June. They are a thirty
three and forty two team. Since then, okay, thirty three
and forty two, that's got to be one of the
worst three teams in the American League. Well, I think
I think the final twelve games of the year will
tell the story for this year.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
It will tell the story for me, for Jerry Topodo.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I don't think it's going to tell it for Stanton
because there's already been reports that he wants him coming back, which,
by the way, have the Mariners confirmed that.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like publicly with anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It was last time the Mariners had a real, live
press conference in front of actual people those last time
that happened. Like, are they going to do that when
the year is over, have a press conference with people
in the room, or they gonna have a zoom call
and let Jerry sit in his office in front of
a webcam and have people talk to him on the internet.
I mean, come on, like, at some point, you got
to have some freaking accountability here, guys, right, Like you're
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a big boy.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You can handle it. You can handle people breathing down
your neck. I think you can.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's what he usually looks. Then he shouldn't be the
GM gets in trouble for what If you can't handle
grown ass men talking to other grown ass people in
a big ass room, then he shouldn't be here, right,
I mean, come on, I mean you want to bring
him back, then bring him back, but own it, own
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it with your fan base, own it with your customers,
own it with the media. And putting this guy in
front of a webcam and have him sit there answer
questions on a zoom call ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I'll say, you bring him back and bring him back.
But bring him back and then be prepared.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
For the huge you know of exactly. I don't think
there's gonna be any backlash.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I think the backlash has already happened when Division Jude
had the article. You think they're gonna go out of
their way and announce, oh, by the way, Jerry Depota's
coming back.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No, he's under contract. They'll just status quo. They won't.
They won't have to do it. They won't have an announcement.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
There's not gonna be any kind of a you know,
tweet sent out that Jerry Depot will return next year.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I'd be shocked if they did that.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
But if we hit a month after the season ends
and there's been no move, that will signal, I think,
to people or a certain time range, that'll signal, oh wow,
he is back next year. That'll in itself be the
signal of Mariner fans anger.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, let's do this, uh four nine four to five
one your thoughts on all this? Steven Susan will join
us around six ozho five six ten that I can
give us his thoughts on where these guys are at.
I want to ask both of you guys a question.
Are you okay paying more to watch your favorite college
teams play, all right, because Tennessee just announced today that
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they are going to be charging a ten percent talent
fee to all of their clients, all of their fans
that will be given to play to help pay the
athletes as part of this revenue sharing plan that is
potentially it's still up in the air, but it's potentially
ready to hit in twenty twenty five, and they want
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more of your money. And, like anything, when businesses have
to pay more for expenses, who pays the bill?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
We do the customer. The customer pays the bill. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Anytime wages go up, anytime prices go up, anytime rent
goes up, anytime elease goes up, anytime to cost to
hamburgers and chicken taco salads go up, we the consumer
end up paying more. And I'm not surprised by this
because the players want their share, and they deserve their share.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'm not saying they don't whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But one of the negatives of the players making money
is that schools need more money. And that's going to
come from one spot. It's going to come from the
people that buy tickets. It's going to come from the
people that watch on TV and pay for cable and
pay for streaming services and by merchandise and things like that.
So I'm talking to Husky fans. I'm talking to you, Dick.
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I'm talking to Cougar fans. I'm talking to whoever. Anybody
out there that pays tickets for college basketball, college football, softball, whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Are you okay.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Paying more money for this if it means the money
goes to players. We got to discuss this because for
a lot of people that pay a lot of money,
this is not insignificant. What Tennessee is asking their fans
to do next. On ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your home for
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Speaker 2 (15:42):
All Right, good.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
News to report, by the way, in fact or fiction?
Bucky Jacobson the Morning Show, by the way, already down
one had the over and the Falcon Eagle game last night.
Ian Farness already down one had the Eagles minus the
points against.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Atlanta last night. This is our week. I feel good good,
I smell I smell five In all, I did not
like the.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
First two weeks of factor fiction that the slate of games.
I love this week's slate well, riding the Hawks minus
the points against the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Has that number gone up, by the way since the
two announcement officially came out about him going to the
ir let's it was five and a half yesterday. I
bet you it's six and a half seven in my
game time. What's that now?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Same four and a half? Really? Can we take it again?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
He didn't get the best valid factor fiction brought to
by the air m Queen and Ceto. It's Tuesday, is
Dick Nay. He'll have to pick for you in about
five minutes. Right here ninety three three kJ A RFM.
So let's go right the room. Because you're a Husky
Football season ticket order you are? Are you a Sounder
season ticket holder? Do you have any season tickets in
your name? Season tickets?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Does your family have tickets at all? Not season tickets?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So full disclosure, I do not have Husky Football season tickets.
As a reason why because I've worked every game for
like twenty five years ago. I got Mariner, Seahawks all that,
but I don't have Husky football. So the one person
that really we should be asking is that guy. Okay, Okay,
so you pay you said off the year, you one
twenty five per ticket, and you have six tickets. Okay,
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so you're paying seven hundred and fifty bucks correct.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yes, time six that.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Is, uh six games, forty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
So if I came to you and said I need
an extra four hundred and fifty dollars to pay for
all those, okay, because I wouldn't be able to force
Let's live in a warm Let's live in a world
where you do humor me for God's sakes, relevant information here, God,
you're like Hugh, it's unbelievable. If I said, give me
an extra five hundred bucks and for people that spend
more than that, give me an extra thousand bucks. Tennessee
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is slapping their fance and this is just this is
for football, Like I think they're doing this for everything
basketball and they got a good basketball program.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Women's basketball is huge down there right at UT. This
is for everything.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
So if you've got like multiple tickets in the Tennessee
Athletic Department and you're spending ten grand a year, whatever
it is, you're paying a thousand bucks extra. If Washington
or any other school came to you and said, we
need ten percent extra to pay our players, what's your reaction.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
My reaction is this better payoff because I love the product.
If I continue to love the product, I'm not going
to mind if the product plateaus or gets worse over
the course of the next few years than obviously what
I'm giving and what everybody else is giving is not
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working right, right, So that would be my answer to
that question, like, I'll still like the things I love
to do the most, and my favorite things I will
continue to put Like.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Your favorite golf course.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Right, Let's just like you've got this favorite golf course,
you love it, you love going there, and it's always
been seventy bucks to play well.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Now it's going to be eighty five bucks to play well.
It's my favorite golf course. So I'm going to pay
an extra fifteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Could you use it a lot? If you enjoy it
and you know you'll always enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
But if it's not, if it's just another restaurant or
just another course or just another sports team, then no,
I'm not gonna end up paying it because it doesn't
mean that much to me.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Like, for example, how much money is Florida State paying
DJU to transfer from Oregon State?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Too much? And he stinks right like he's terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
He might cost Mike Norvella's job at Florida State, honestly,
So there's got to be a salary cap on this,
because all you're gonna do is she's keep coming back
and just asking for more money when things don't work out.
Like I'm getting a text to your four nine four
to five to one. I've been a Husky football season
ticket holder for decades. If they add a talent feed
next year, I am out. Don't mind paying players getting
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some sort of compensation, but pay to play is too
volatile for me, just like restaurants adding service charges now
on checks. When restaurants need more money to pay their bills,
they passed the they passed the expenses.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
On to you.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So look, I know this.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I don't know if a lot of fans were what
the number would be of Husky fans or Cougar fans
or be or ducks whatever that would say.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I'm out. I can guarantee you this. It wouldn't be
more people.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
No one's going to say, you know, what I want
to buy tickets now because they're more expensive.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Nobody's gonna say that.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Of course, the question really if you think it's less,
the question really is what percentage of Husky fans would
be like that texter versus the percentage of.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Oregon fans, Ohio State fans, Michigan fans, the team used
your compiling the Stummach for the Big Ten Championship. That's
the real question. Well, look, this is a real thing.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I think it's going to happen if Tennessee has success
with it, there is no reason that other teams won't
follow suits if there's a revenue stream there.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And we talked about this that you've got to be creative.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You should be putting advertisements on the goalposts, across bars, players, helmets,
things like this. Go crazy to get every penny back
that you possibly can. You know, now, it's not just
this ten percent thing that Tennessee is doing, but you
know you Dubb just launched a big campaign. They're trying
to raise three hundred million dollars and they want to
read it the locker room. Have you seen the Husky
locker room. It's sensational. There's no need to redo it there,
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just is it. It looks awesome compared to the Seahawks.
It makes the Hawks look like a dump.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That place over there.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
But because other schools are going bananas and just throwing
money out there like an air cannon, like it's growing
on trees, UDUB has no choice but to follow suits,
you know. I mean, Jed Finish talked about that and
maybe next week or whatever we can play it on
the air when we get away from the Ample Cup.
But these boots that the players wear to kind of
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get the blood flowing blowing, and he wants to pair
for every player, every player, and right now they have
like ten on campus. Like we are spending money on
things that in the end is not needed. The only
reason why you're doing it is because they're doing it
because somebody else is doing it. And it's kind of gross,
to be honest with you, how much money is being
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spent on things that people simply put don't need and
the only reason why it's being done is because of
the competition from somebody else that's got limitless dollars and
they're throwing it away on a brand new rug for
a player's locker, or a brand new cooler that is
only made in speed and on the top of some
mountain somewhere with some kind of water that nobody can
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get except for one spot.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's ridiculous, dude. So in the end, the fans will
just pay more.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And it's actually starting to piss me off this thing
today that Tennessee brought up. I am so tired of
people having to foot the bill for these colleges when
these coaches are making seven eight million dollars a year
and eighty's are making butt loads of money.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And look, in the end, the market will decide, right,
so we'll have regulations. Market. Well, there's no regulations now.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I know, but there will be. There'll be salary cap regulations,
There'll be money. Then you're gonna have to deal with
what you dealt with forever, and that's the under the
table payments.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, they've got to have salary caps when it's all
said and done. But I just think that this is
getting to a point where the fans, in the end
are being now asked to do more than they've ever
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Speaker 2 (23:28):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
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Three games off the board so far today Ashley taking
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Speaker 2 (23:46):
Is Greg just gonna pick Army every single week?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
If the boy Scouts had a team, I take them
And Anders likes the Chargers in the points against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Dick, it's your day. What do you go? Well, getting
back to my roots.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
No more favorites, No more of these cowboys picks minus
six and a half. No, No, I make my money
in this game taking dogs, and usually ugly dogs. But
I don't think I'm taking an ugly dog. I'm taking
a team that probably should have won the game this
week against the team that probably should have lost but won.
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The New York Jets were behind the Tennessee Titans almost
the entire game and somehow found a way to squeak
out a win. The New England Patriots were a block
field goal away from probably beating the Seattle Seahawks and
going to two to zero on the season. I am
getting six and a half points for a game that.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Is going to be low scoring.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Thursday Night winner gets to twenty between the Jets and
the Patriots, and I'm getting six and a half points.
By the way, six or more point dogs this season
eight and oh against the spread, the six biggest dogs
last week six and oh against the spread. The trend
continues at least through Thursday. Give me the New England
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Patriots plus six and a half.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Who I think are a pretty decent team. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I likes the New York Jets. I like it a
lot for a lot of reasons. I think it's going
to be a low scoring game. Like you said, these
games are typically really gross.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Early on in the year.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
There was a couple of games last year in Philadelphia,
Minnesota thirty four to twenty eight forty two points in
Week two fifty four and Week three sixty and Week four,
but typically they're kind of slogs right these Thursday night games.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think the Jet defense are the Patriot defense is
good enough to keep this thing close against Aaron Rodgers
in New York. We're taking the Patriots plus the six
and a half against the Jets. Factor fiction to four nine,
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Speaker 6 (25:59):
Now time for Softy in Dick's Fun with Audio, Jimmy
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Speaker 2 (26:03):
And Star Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have some fun
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Speaker 1 (26:09):
All right, here we go, the moment everybody's been waiting for,
my favorite segment of the radio show.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I'll give a damn what you people think.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I love it Fun with audio every day at this time,
we go around the sports world for a little bit
of high quality audio entertainment.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
At a press.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Conference this morning, Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin smacked back.
Had a question about giving out game balls after they're
winning Denver on Sundays.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
I just mentioned how we're warding it wants to get
to win in Denver floor us.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
He said, you'd be out of penny game ball.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Is that something that you've done often?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Is it rewarding for you to get that one for
you know, none of your businesses, respectfully, there's certain things
that go on among teams that I don't talk about.
Whether it gets out or how it gets out is
unimportant to me, and I'm not overly guarded against it.
But is this certain things as a leader that I
talked to the collective about that I have zero intentions
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of sharing with the larger public. You know, I can't
give you all the ingredients to the hot dog. You
might not like it.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Geez wow, who pissed in his cinnamon toast on the
wrong side of hell Man.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
She's just asking about the game balls that they gave out.
I'm not gonna tell you. That's none of your business.
I wonder how hell. I wonder how to response.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Sounds like he was not happy that she found out
that they did that, or the way that they did that.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I would it be her fault? Did somebody else report
that she just Mike relaxed?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Justin Fields had just told them in the press conference,
Justin just.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Told us Justin I didn't hear that.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
So really, Justin Fields had just told them that he
gave the extra game ball to Russell because they won
in Denver. And he's just so taken aback that Justin
would tell them that.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh wow, Well, don't teams typically put like a video
out on social media of who's getting a game ball?
The Seahawks do that all the time. Anybody Tom would
calm down? Good God?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Anybody else find it humorous that Russell wasn't got a
game ball in a game didn't play?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I do.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I think that's what.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I also think we know why tomlins all worked out.
He's got a weirdo for a backup quarterback. All right, Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
What's that? This morning. On First Take, Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Smith reacting to Bryce Young being bench for Andy Dalton
and presented some stacks about how bad he and the
Panthers have been.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Do you know in the last ten games, the Carolina
Panthers have led for only ten seconds?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I mean, that's that is an atrusctity.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
Okay, we're looking at Bryce Young right now, fifty nine
point three per percentage dead last, last in y'ads per attempt,
last in touchdown percentage last, and passer rating. This is
what we're talking about, ladies and gentlemen. Jamalcus Russell wasn't
even that bad. And you know how I felt about
JaMarcus Russell. I mean, this is the this is maybe
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the biggest bust in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
God, that's unbelievable. It's gonna be him and Russell right crew.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
By the way, that they've led for ten seconds in
the last ten games, you know how hard that is
to do.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
It looks I think they've only won one game and
they will let it at the very end.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
That is unbelievable. Wow, all right, no more complaining for me. Jeez,
give me the Panthers. Well, don't you think that, don't
you think the red rifle like gets them fired up,
and they and they stayed in the game.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I gotta like and plus the points this week.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
According to Steve and A, they got a corpse for
a quarterback, So anything with a beating heart is an upgrade.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to here? What's that? Dick?
This morning?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I get up NFL draft analyst mel kiper ranting about
how the Carolina Panthers ownership back to the Panthers has
set up Bryce Young for failure with coaching changes.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
Cotton Newity, you drafted quarterback. Everybody said, he's got this
great infrastructure in Carolina around him, right with the head coach,
the coordinator, the quarterback coach.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Everything's there, the senior assistant. Everything's in place. But then
you go into this year, you change everything because CJ.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Stroud's doing so well in Houston. We gotta destroy this thing.
We gotta, yeah, wellow it up and start over. So
we bring in an offensive coach who was with Baker
and others. Right, bringing a new pass game coordinator, new
quarterback coach for Bryce Young.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
No, we don't play him in a preseason.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
We play him one series in the final preseason game
against the aog's. Does that make sense to you when
a two games in we're saying you can't play. Yes,
his confidence was shattered, right, Yes he does need to
sit behind Eddy Dalton for a little bit. But the
blame this on Bryce Young is ridiculous. This is the
blame here goes to the organization, the owner for a
miss handling.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I do think they've totally mismanaged him, for sure. Obviously
they're kicking themselves or not taking c J. Stroud and
taking Bryce Young over CJ.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Stroud.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But to bench him after two games, you may as
well have just started the year with Andy Dalton or
just sat him last season and gone with a veteran
who was there backup a year ago behind Bryce Young,
because I know Darnold was there for a while, but
he was in San Francisco last season.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Dalton was the Dalton. Dalton was there last year. Yeah,
Dalton played against the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So having him just be the guy and then maybe
in like the middle of year two, you're turning over
to Bryce Young. But mel Kiper is exactly right. They
have just tatered this guy's confidence. Man, And you know what,
probably Dave Kanalis in the in the process, as you know,
rookie head coach, and this is the way it starts
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with this guy.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Brutal man Tolly brutal.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Against the Seahawks last year, Sam Darnold threw or excuse me,
uh Andy Dalton through for three hundred and sixty one
yards and two touchdowns in a thirty seven to twenty
seven loss. Since Christmas Day of twenty twenty two, the
Panthers have won three games total by one, by three, and.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Two by two.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Oh those are their only wins since Christmas Day of
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
But did Sam Darnold in that game? Have time? Sam?
Let's get one more I dick? Did you happen to.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Hear me fighting my proper eclipse?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Did you happen to hear that? What's I? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
During the first quarter of last night's Falcon Eagles game,
Philly went for it on fourth and four from Atlanta's
nine yard line and failed to convert. On the Monday
Night Football broadcast, Troy Aikman and Joe Buck took a
shot at how much analytics are a part of the game.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
The biggest change to me is in these situations, I mean,
going forward on fourth down. You see it when you're
on your own side of the fifty yard line here.
I mean, there was a time you would no more
think about going for it here in the first quarter,
when you've got a chance to take a lead, and
we've greenlighted all these coaches with analytics, that hurts in trouble.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And broken up incomplete.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
Gunnard was the target this time, and instead of taking
the chip shot field goal, the Eagles go for it
on fourth and four and the Falcons defense makes the stock.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
So don't you think that when things get so ridiculous,
there tends to be a change and a turn the
opposite way. I feel like the analytics phase is starting
to die.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I hope.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
So I really dope, because you know what, all these
managers and all these head coaches in the NFL, if
you're just gonna go with analytics and buy the book,
then why are you there? That's right, Like you could
hire me. Just give me the numbers and I'll press
the appropriate button. Now's the point of you being there?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Well, we've already had a coach fired in the NFL
because of analytics. Brandon Staley lost his job primarily because
he was ridiculous and then going.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
He probably wanted him to do that, honestly, right, I mean,
you think they're just saying, hey, do whatever you want, right,
push buttons. I thought you were gonna mention this guy, Dan.
That guy may have been whacked because of analytics. Dan
Campbell had almost went to tears in the media last
week because of his dumb fourth down decisions. Let's get
a break, Apple Cup, Husky Hawks, My God next on
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ninety three three KJRFM.
Where we go the Mariners and Yankees get it on
in a crucial series for both teams.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Really at te Mobile Park.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
So I want to go around the room because you
know me, I've been on the Believe Bus now for
a while. The bus came close to veering off the cliff.
You ever see Billy Madison when the o'doyles went over
the cliff and the bus slipped on a banana peel
and the o'doyles went down in a ball of flames.
We've come this close to having that happen, and maybe
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we are already on the way to having that happen.
But I'm sensing I'm sensing that if you were a
zero on a scale of zero to ten on the
Believe Bus a week ago, that maybe you're a point five.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Maybe you're a point.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Five on this Tuesday afternoon, that maybe you're starting to
kind of come around just a little bit. You're sprinting
towards the off season, going a hut of miles an hour,
and now maybe instead of going one hundred miles an
hour towards the offseason, maybe you're going ninety five miles
an hour.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's starting to slow down just a little bit. To
maybe take a peek behind you and see what's going on?
Am I right? Am I right?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Are you serious with that question.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Dick Fate?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
No, no, I think what we're what the bus is
going one hundred miles an hour towards is worst possible scenario?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Worst possible scenario is not finishing four games out in
the wild card, in six games out in the West.
That's fine because then you can look back and say,
you know what, didn't really matter when they sky fired
Scott's service.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
They weren't gonna make it anyway.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Worst possible scenario is they finished one game out of
the wild card and we are just We go into
October just angry, fuming like Jerry. You did it again.
You misread the team again. Last year at the trade deadline,
you said they weren't good enough to make the playoffs,
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so you weren't gonna make moves, and they lost by
one game. You were wrong this year. You didn't fire
Scott after the horrible series against Detroit. Instead, you wasted
another six games where they went one in five. Then
you fired Scott, and that one in five stretch cost
you the playoff.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Let me let me jump in though, because we're talking
about two different things. Okay, what you're talking about is
what's best long term for the franchise, like just end
this be done or whatever. Frustrating not to give these
guys any reason to think everything's fine here, right, Yeah,
you're you're talking about what's best for the I'm talking
about this particular team in twenty twenty four and their
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playoff chances that.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
They have a slightly better chance now than they did
a week ago, but not that much because we're a
week closer to the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay, but again, you're slowing down. You were doing one
hundred miles an hour towards the Austins we last week
ninety four were according to Baseball Reference six days ago.
And I've been taking screenshots of this, like a luva
eight point four percent chance last Wednesday to.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Now now they're fourteen point three percent to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Is that something we should be excited about? I know,
you tell me, you tell.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Me, I mean, because I just I just put this
out on social media. I'm not surprised by the reaction,
but I got a pull here for Mariners, essentially three
games back of Minnesota and in the wild Card with the
tiebreaker going to them four back in the West with
twelve left to go. What's your level of confidence the
Mariners will make the playoffs forty three point cent, forty
three percent, zero zero, forty nine percent, little, five point
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nine decent amount one point five. So it's ninety four
to ninety three percent, say zero or little chance with
two games out in the wild Card. But again, don't forget.
And I've been seeing people talk about this on social media.
There's no one game playoff anymore, right, I mean, if
you tie the Twins, it's tiebreaker time in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
We'll get you, and the Tigers will get you.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
The only team that won't get you if you if
you win one more game against the Astros and the
three game series starting on Monday is Houston. So you
you've changed in regards to them making the playoffs incremental? Maybe, yeah,
just like a little bit right, like like nothing's really
different in the end.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You're still digging the hole.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yes, you're not stopping, right, maybe you're taking a break
for a smoke or something, but you're still digging the hole.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You haven't changed at all. No, zero.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I still haven't watched this even when there was a
perfect game through six innings, I was aware of it,
and I will say the apathy did clear, the clouds
cleared for a moment to follow the perfect game, I
still couldn't put it on the TV. I still like,
even inside of me, I said, you know what, maybe
if this gets to the eighth, ninth inning, for sure,
I'll put it on. Even in a perfect game, I
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wouldn't put it on in six. No, it's a perfect
I mean, a perfect game, is a perfect game games
it's in the perfect game.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
We were terrible.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Still applies to the fact of this baseball team is
just maddening to watch. They're boring to watch. They've annoyed
me all season. I still think it's zero percent chance.
And okay, if I was going one hundred miles per
hour on the apathy not caring, correct, you know, don't
think they're gonna miss it trained correct. Maybe I'm ninety
nine now, but that doesn't change the overall picture.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And if they win tonight, I'm gonna check in with
you tomorrow, And if they win Tuesday or Wednesday, I'll
check in with you.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Sense what other teams do that?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I like totally, I mean look, you're not you need help.
Obviously they're playing better. I mean, Jackson and I can
both admit they're playing need the Twins to really continue
to fall apart. And what's their record, like the last
twenty one games or seven and fourteen or whatever. So
the law of averages kind of tells you it's so point.
Maybe they'll turn this around, but they've got Cleveland for
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three more. They got to go to Fenway Park and
then they play Baltimore. And here's the thing about that
Baltimore series, and this applies too to the Yankees tonight
as well. That playoff race in the East isn't over yet.
I mean New York's got a three game lead on
Baltimore for the American League East Championship. That thing is
not done. Guardians have a five game lead on Kansas City.
I mean, that's closer to being done in the East,
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but that's not done either. So you're talking about facing
teams that have a lot to play for. Dick and
I both think it's nine and three minimum, Like, don't
even talk to us if you're eighting fifth correct nine
and three minimum, maybe ten and two. If the Twins
find a way to turn this around. If you win
two out of three against the Yankees, you're talking about
still having to go eight to one in your last
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nine excuse me, seven and two in your last nine
versus eight and one if you lose the series to
New York. So I just feel like the family has
been called in. They're waiting in the hallway right the
doctors and the priest is standing by. There's a slight
murmur of a heartbeat. We can't officially call the coroner yet,
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we can't officially call King County and get a death certificate.
But we got up bump, we got up ba bump,
b bump, bump.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And I can tell you, guys want to believe bad.
You want to believe I know you want to believe well.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I mean because you know in the back of your head,
if these guys get in, if they just they're gonna
have a shot with the staff.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'd love to see it. I would love to see it.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I just think there's there's a far greater chance of
them getting close and not getting in versus just dying
and going you know, three and eight in the last
eleven games. They're playing good baseball. They obviously believe right now,
But it's just so many bad decisions and bad indecisions
leading us to this point where.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Be here, nobody gets that more than me. We should
be like a wild card game one.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, I'm just saying, even if they would have just
fired Scott early, I mean, we were ten games up
as well, I understand, but let's just say everything went
like it did in August, right, we should have just
fired Scott a week earlier, and we'd be a game
behind Houston and tied in the wild Card, and we'd
be playing like this, and we'd be legitimately believe there'd
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be more than a little bump.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't be fired up for this game tonight, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Not Nobody is gonna get on you for saying they
don't have a shot. That they got a fourteen percent
chance to make it, which means they have needed six
percent chance to not make it. Okay, so we all
understand that. But I think that tonight's game is worth
paying attention to. I mean, I think when you're two
games out with twelve games left to go, four games
out with twelve games left to go, and you have
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that team staring you in the face on Monday night
in Houston, I think, if you're gonna give these guys
one more little stupid shot to earn your attention for
a couple of minutes playing the Yankees, they're playing the
American Legue, MVP and Aaron Judge get a chance to
watch this guy play. I think you go home tonight
and you flip them on and you give him a
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shot one more time, let him entertain you for a
couple of hours. They get blown out, you flip it
off and you do something else. But my night's occupied.
I'm gonna go home watch this baseball game.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I mean, that's good my nights. That's good. My night's occupied.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I'll be calling a basketball game, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But you know there's chances.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Life and I are starting mad Men season three. There
is not There's not a theod available on the man.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
There is a greater than zero percent chance that during
a break I might turn on my phone and click
on ESPN dot com and see what.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
The baseball I will be doing.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
As well, there is a non zero chance I will
say this, give me a shot. As little as I
have watched of this team, because after that A's series,
they just angered me so much. I mean that that
A's Series pissed me off so badly a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Ago that I'm like, dude, I just can't watch this anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, that's the day that we talked about kept firing
to Poto. That's the day that you and I went
on the air and actually argued about when to fire Jerry.
Fire him now or and fire him in four weeks
from now. Either way, both of us wanted him gone.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Right having said that they they have played entertaining baseball
since then. They are a more likable team with a
more likable manager than they had three weeks ago, and
so for that reason, I'm thankful.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Don't think they're making the playoffs, But for that reason.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I'm thankful the manager is not a total pain as
they actually Hey, they actually score some runs occasionally.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That's kind of fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I think the conversation then kind of revolves if they
don't make it, like, hey, do you really kind of
beg Edgar Martinez to come back and continue to be
your hitting coach next year? Do you feel more comfortable
but Dan Wilson being your full time manager, you know
next year. I still think they dropped the ball on
that I'm not saying on Dan. I'm saying, you want
Dan to be your guy, fine, make Dane your guy,
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but you gotta have a search. You got to, you know,
open this thing up and let the fan base know
that you're turning over every rock to find the right guy.
And they did not do that whatsoever. So I still
think it was mismanaged. Even if Dan Wilson ends up
being the guy, and even if they did that search
and came back to Dan Wilson, not doing the search
was still mismanaging everything. I mean, here's the deal. They
were forty four and thirty one. Because you've talked about this,
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Jackson many times. They're up ten games, forty four and
thirty one jd eighteenth of June. They are a thirty
three and forty two team. Since then, okay, thirty three
and forty two, that's got to be one of the
worst three teams in the American League. Well, I think
I think the final twelve games of the year will
tell the story for this year.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
It will tell the story for me, for Jerry Topodo.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I don't think it's going to tell it for Stanton
because there's already been reports that he wants him coming back, which,
by the way, have the Mariners confirmed that.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like publicly with anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It was last time the Mariners had a real, live
press conference in front of actual people those last time
that happened. Like, are they going to do that when
the year is over, have a press conference with people
in the room, or they gonna have a zoom call
and let Jerry sit in his office in front of
a webcam and have people talk to him on the internet.
I mean, come on, like, at some point, you got
to have some freaking accountability here, guys, right, Like you're
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a big boy.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You can handle it. You can handle people breathing down
your neck. I think you can.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's what he usually looks. Then he shouldn't be the
GM gets in trouble for what If you can't handle
grown ass men talking to other grown ass people in
a big ass room, then he shouldn't be here, right,
I mean, come on, I mean you want to bring
him back, then bring him back, but own it, own
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it with your fan base, own it with your customers,
own it with the media. And putting this guy in
front of a webcam and have him sit there answer
questions on a zoom call ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I'll say, you bring him back and bring him back.
But bring him back and then be prepared.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
For the huge you know of exactly. I don't think
there's gonna be any backlash.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I think the backlash has already happened when Division Jude
had the article. You think they're gonna go out of
their way and announce, oh, by the way, Jerry Depota's
coming back.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No, he's under contract. They'll just status quo. They won't.
They won't have to do it. They won't have an announcement.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
There's not gonna be any kind of a you know,
tweet sent out that Jerry Depot will return next year.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I'd be shocked if they did that.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
But if we hit a month after the season ends
and there's been no move, that will signal, I think,
to people or a certain time range, that'll signal, oh wow,
he is back next year. That'll in itself be the
signal of Mariner fans anger.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, let's do this, uh four nine four to five
one your thoughts on all this? Steven Susan will join
us around six ozho five six ten that I can
give us his thoughts on where these guys are at.
I want to ask both of you guys a question.
Are you okay paying more to watch your favorite college
teams play, all right, because Tennessee just announced today that
(13:50):
they are going to be charging a ten percent talent
fee to all of their clients, all of their fans
that will be given to play to help pay the
athletes as part of this revenue sharing plan that is
potentially it's still up in the air, but it's potentially
ready to hit in twenty twenty five, and they want
(14:10):
more of your money. And, like anything, when businesses have
to pay more for expenses, who pays the bill?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
We do the customer. The customer pays the bill. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Anytime wages go up, anytime prices go up, anytime rent
goes up, anytime elease goes up, anytime to cost to
hamburgers and chicken taco salads go up, we the consumer
end up paying more. And I'm not surprised by this
because the players want their share, and they deserve their share.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'm not saying they don't whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But one of the negatives of the players making money
is that schools need more money. And that's going to
come from one spot. It's going to come from the
people that buy tickets. It's going to come from the
people that watch on TV and pay for cable and
pay for streaming services and by merchandise and things like that.
So I'm talking to Husky fans. I'm talking to you, Dick.
(15:04):
I'm talking to Cougar fans. I'm talking to whoever. Anybody
out there that pays tickets for college basketball, college football, softball, whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Are you okay.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Paying more money for this if it means the money
goes to players. We got to discuss this because for
a lot of people that pay a lot of money,
this is not insignificant. What Tennessee is asking their fans
to do next. On ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
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Speaker 2 (15:42):
All Right, good.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
News to report, by the way, in fact or fiction?
Bucky Jacobson the Morning Show, by the way, already down
one had the over and the Falcon Eagle game last night.
Ian Farness already down one had the Eagles minus the
points against.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Atlanta last night. This is our week. I feel good good,
I smell I smell five In all, I did not
like the.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
First two weeks of factor fiction that the slate of games.
I love this week's slate well, riding the Hawks minus
the points against the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Has that number gone up, by the way since the
two announcement officially came out about him going to the
ir let's it was five and a half yesterday. I
bet you it's six and a half seven in my
game time. What's that now?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Same four and a half? Really? Can we take it again?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
He didn't get the best valid factor fiction brought to
by the air m Queen and Ceto. It's Tuesday, is
Dick Nay. He'll have to pick for you in about
five minutes. Right here ninety three three kJ A RFM.
So let's go right the room. Because you're a Husky
Football season ticket order you are? Are you a Sounder
season ticket holder? Do you have any season tickets in
your name? Season tickets?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Does your family have tickets at all? Not season tickets?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So full disclosure, I do not have Husky Football season tickets.
As a reason why because I've worked every game for
like twenty five years ago. I got Mariner, Seahawks all that,
but I don't have Husky football. So the one person
that really we should be asking is that guy. Okay, Okay,
so you pay you said off the year, you one
twenty five per ticket, and you have six tickets. Okay,
(17:08):
so you're paying seven hundred and fifty bucks correct.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yes, time six that.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Is, uh six games, forty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
So if I came to you and said I need
an extra four hundred and fifty dollars to pay for
all those, okay, because I wouldn't be able to force
Let's live in a warm Let's live in a world
where you do humor me for God's sakes, relevant information here, God,
you're like Hugh, it's unbelievable. If I said, give me
an extra five hundred bucks and for people that spend
more than that, give me an extra thousand bucks. Tennessee
(17:41):
is slapping their fance and this is just this is
for football, Like I think they're doing this for everything
basketball and they got a good basketball program.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Women's basketball is huge down there right at UT. This
is for everything.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
So if you've got like multiple tickets in the Tennessee
Athletic Department and you're spending ten grand a year, whatever
it is, you're paying a thousand bucks extra. If Washington
or any other school came to you and said, we
need ten percent extra to pay our players, what's your reaction.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
My reaction is this better payoff because I love the product.
If I continue to love the product, I'm not going
to mind if the product plateaus or gets worse over
the course of the next few years than obviously what
I'm giving and what everybody else is giving is not
(18:29):
working right, right, So that would be my answer to
that question, like, I'll still like the things I love
to do the most, and my favorite things I will
continue to put Like.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Your favorite golf course.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Right, Let's just like you've got this favorite golf course,
you love it, you love going there, and it's always
been seventy bucks to play well.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Now it's going to be eighty five bucks to play well.
It's my favorite golf course. So I'm going to pay
an extra fifteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Could you use it a lot? If you enjoy it
and you know you'll always enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
But if it's not, if it's just another restaurant or
just another course or just another sports team, then no,
I'm not gonna end up paying it because it doesn't
mean that much to me.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Like, for example, how much money is Florida State paying
DJU to transfer from Oregon State?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Too much? And he stinks right like he's terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
He might cost Mike Norvella's job at Florida State, honestly,
So there's got to be a salary cap on this,
because all you're gonna do is she's keep coming back
and just asking for more money when things don't work out.
Like I'm getting a text to your four nine four
to five to one. I've been a Husky football season
ticket holder for decades. If they add a talent feed
next year, I am out. Don't mind paying players getting
(19:38):
some sort of compensation, but pay to play is too
volatile for me, just like restaurants adding service charges now
on checks. When restaurants need more money to pay their bills,
they passed the they passed the expenses.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
On to you.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So look, I know this.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I don't know if a lot of fans were what
the number would be of Husky fans or Cougar fans
or be or ducks whatever that would say.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I'm out. I can guarantee you this. It wouldn't be
more people.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
No one's going to say, you know, what I want
to buy tickets now because they're more expensive.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Nobody's gonna say that.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Of course, the question really if you think it's less,
the question really is what percentage of Husky fans would
be like that texter versus the percentage of.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Oregon fans, Ohio State fans, Michigan fans, the team used
your compiling the Stummach for the Big Ten Championship. That's
the real question. Well, look, this is a real thing.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I think it's going to happen if Tennessee has success
with it, there is no reason that other teams won't
follow suits if there's a revenue stream there.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And we talked about this that you've got to be creative.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You should be putting advertisements on the goalposts, across bars, players, helmets,
things like this. Go crazy to get every penny back
that you possibly can. You know, now, it's not just
this ten percent thing that Tennessee is doing, but you
know you Dubb just launched a big campaign. They're trying
to raise three hundred million dollars and they want to
read it the locker room. Have you seen the Husky
locker room. It's sensational. There's no need to redo it there,
(21:06):
just is it. It looks awesome compared to the Seahawks.
It makes the Hawks look like a dump.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That place over there.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
But because other schools are going bananas and just throwing
money out there like an air cannon, like it's growing
on trees, UDUB has no choice but to follow suits,
you know. I mean, Jed Finish talked about that and
maybe next week or whatever we can play it on
the air when we get away from the Ample Cup.
But these boots that the players wear to kind of
(21:33):
get the blood flowing blowing, and he wants to pair
for every player, every player, and right now they have
like ten on campus. Like we are spending money on
things that in the end is not needed. The only
reason why you're doing it is because they're doing it
because somebody else is doing it. And it's kind of gross,
to be honest with you, how much money is being
(21:54):
spent on things that people simply put don't need and
the only reason why it's being done is because of
the competition from somebody else that's got limitless dollars and
they're throwing it away on a brand new rug for
a player's locker, or a brand new cooler that is
only made in speed and on the top of some
mountain somewhere with some kind of water that nobody can
(22:15):
get except for one spot.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's ridiculous, dude. So in the end, the fans will
just pay more.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And it's actually starting to piss me off this thing
today that Tennessee brought up. I am so tired of
people having to foot the bill for these colleges when
these coaches are making seven eight million dollars a year
and eighty's are making butt loads of money.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And look, in the end, the market will decide, right,
so we'll have regulations. Market. Well, there's no regulations now.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I know, but there will be. There'll be salary cap regulations,
There'll be money. Then you're gonna have to deal with
what you dealt with forever, and that's the under the
table payments.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, they've got to have salary caps when it's all
said and done. But I just think that this is
getting to a point where the fans, in the end
are being now asked to do more than they've ever
been out has to do before. Factor Fiction brought to
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Three games off the board so far today Ashley taking
Kent State and the forty eight and a half against
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minus five and a half against Rice?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Is Greg just gonna pick Army every single week?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
If the boy Scouts had a team, I take them
And Anders likes the Chargers in the points against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Dick, it's your day. What do you go? Well, getting
back to my roots.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
No more favorites, No more of these cowboys picks minus
six and a half. No, No, I make my money
in this game taking dogs, and usually ugly dogs. But
I don't think I'm taking an ugly dog. I'm taking
a team that probably should have won the game this
week against the team that probably should have lost but won.
(24:17):
The New York Jets were behind the Tennessee Titans almost
the entire game and somehow found a way to squeak
out a win. The New England Patriots were a block
field goal away from probably beating the Seattle Seahawks and
going to two to zero on the season. I am
getting six and a half points for a game that.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Is going to be low scoring.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Thursday Night winner gets to twenty between the Jets and
the Patriots, and I'm getting six and a half points.
By the way, six or more point dogs this season
eight and oh against the spread, the six biggest dogs
last week six and oh against the spread. The trend
continues at least through Thursday. Give me the New England
(25:00):
Patriots plus six and a half.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Who I think are a pretty decent team. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I likes the New York Jets. I like it a
lot for a lot of reasons. I think it's going
to be a low scoring game. Like you said, these
games are typically really gross.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Early on in the year.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
There was a couple of games last year in Philadelphia,
Minnesota thirty four to twenty eight forty two points in
Week two fifty four and Week three sixty and Week four,
but typically they're kind of slogs right these Thursday night games.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think the Jet defense are the Patriot defense is
good enough to keep this thing close against Aaron Rodgers
in New York. We're taking the Patriots plus the six
and a half against the Jets. Factor fiction to four nine,
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Speaker 6 (25:59):
Now time for Softy in Dick's Fun with Audio, Jimmy
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Speaker 2 (26:03):
And Star Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have some fun
with audio.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
All right, here we go, the moment everybody's been waiting for,
my favorite segment of the radio show.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I'll give a damn what you people think.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I love it Fun with audio every day at this time,
we go around the sports world for a little bit
of high quality audio entertainment.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
At a press.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Conference this morning, Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin smacked back.
Had a question about giving out game balls after they're
winning Denver on Sundays.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
I just mentioned how we're warding it wants to get
to win in Denver floor us.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
He said, you'd be out of penny game ball.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Is that something that you've done often?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Is it rewarding for you to get that one for
you know, none of your businesses, respectfully, there's certain things
that go on among teams that I don't talk about.
Whether it gets out or how it gets out is
unimportant to me, and I'm not overly guarded against it.
But is this certain things as a leader that I
talked to the collective about that I have zero intentions
(27:04):
of sharing with the larger public. You know, I can't
give you all the ingredients to the hot dog. You
might not like it.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Geez wow, who pissed in his cinnamon toast on the
wrong side of hell Man.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
She's just asking about the game balls that they gave out.
I'm not gonna tell you. That's none of your business.
I wonder how hell. I wonder how to response.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Sounds like he was not happy that she found out
that they did that, or the way that they did that.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I would it be her fault? Did somebody else report
that she just Mike relaxed?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Justin Fields had just told them in the press conference,
Justin just.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Told us Justin I didn't hear that.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
So really, Justin Fields had just told them that he
gave the extra game ball to Russell because they won
in Denver. And he's just so taken aback that Justin
would tell them that.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh wow, Well, don't teams typically put like a video
out on social media of who's getting a game ball?
The Seahawks do that all the time. Anybody Tom would
calm down? Good God?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Anybody else find it humorous that Russell wasn't got a
game ball in a game didn't play?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I do.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I think that's what.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I also think we know why tomlins all worked out.
He's got a weirdo for a backup quarterback. All right, Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
What's that? This morning. On First Take, Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Smith reacting to Bryce Young being bench for Andy Dalton
and presented some stacks about how bad he and the
Panthers have been.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Do you know in the last ten games, the Carolina
Panthers have led for only ten seconds?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I mean, that's that is an atrusctity.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
Okay, we're looking at Bryce Young right now, fifty nine
point three per percentage dead last, last in y'ads per attempt,
last in touchdown percentage last, and passer rating. This is
what we're talking about, ladies and gentlemen. Jamalcus Russell wasn't
even that bad. And you know how I felt about
JaMarcus Russell. I mean, this is the this is maybe
(28:49):
the biggest bust in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
God, that's unbelievable. It's gonna be him and Russell right crew.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
By the way, that they've led for ten seconds in
the last ten games, you know how hard that is
to do.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
It looks I think they've only won one game and
they will let it at the very end.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
That is unbelievable. Wow, all right, no more complaining for me. Jeez,
give me the Panthers. Well, don't you think that, don't
you think the red rifle like gets them fired up,
and they and they stayed in the game.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I gotta like and plus the points this week.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
According to Steve and A, they got a corpse for
a quarterback, So anything with a beating heart is an upgrade.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to here? What's that? Dick?
This morning?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I get up NFL draft analyst mel kiper ranting about
how the Carolina Panthers ownership back to the Panthers has
set up Bryce Young for failure with coaching changes.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
Cotton Newity, you drafted quarterback. Everybody said, he's got this
great infrastructure in Carolina around him, right with the head coach,
the coordinator, the quarterback coach.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Everything's there, the senior assistant. Everything's in place. But then
you go into this year, you change everything because CJ.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Stroud's doing so well in Houston. We gotta destroy this thing.
We gotta, yeah, wellow it up and start over. So
we bring in an offensive coach who was with Baker
and others. Right, bringing a new pass game coordinator, new
quarterback coach for Bryce Young.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
No, we don't play him in a preseason.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
We play him one series in the final preseason game
against the aog's. Does that make sense to you when
a two games in we're saying you can't play. Yes,
his confidence was shattered, right, Yes he does need to
sit behind Eddy Dalton for a little bit. But the
blame this on Bryce Young is ridiculous. This is the
blame here goes to the organization, the owner for a
miss handling.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I do think they've totally mismanaged him, for sure. Obviously
they're kicking themselves or not taking c J. Stroud and
taking Bryce Young over CJ.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Stroud.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But to bench him after two games, you may as
well have just started the year with Andy Dalton or
just sat him last season and gone with a veteran
who was there backup a year ago behind Bryce Young,
because I know Darnold was there for a while, but
he was in San Francisco last season.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Dalton was the Dalton. Dalton was there last year. Yeah,
Dalton played against the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So having him just be the guy and then maybe
in like the middle of year two, you're turning over
to Bryce Young. But mel Kiper is exactly right. They
have just tatered this guy's confidence. Man, And you know what,
probably Dave Kanalis in the in the process, as you know,
rookie head coach, and this is the way it starts
(31:11):
with this guy.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Brutal man Tolly brutal.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Against the Seahawks last year, Sam Darnold threw or excuse me,
uh Andy Dalton through for three hundred and sixty one
yards and two touchdowns in a thirty seven to twenty
seven loss. Since Christmas Day of twenty twenty two, the
Panthers have won three games total by one, by three, and.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Two by two.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Oh those are their only wins since Christmas Day of
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
But did Sam Darnold in that game? Have time? Sam?
Let's get one more I dick? Did you happen to.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Hear me fighting my proper eclipse?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Did you happen to hear that? What's I? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
During the first quarter of last night's Falcon Eagles game,
Philly went for it on fourth and four from Atlanta's
nine yard line and failed to convert. On the Monday
Night Football broadcast, Troy Aikman and Joe Buck took a
shot at how much analytics are a part of the game.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
The biggest change to me is in these situations, I mean,
going forward on fourth down. You see it when you're
on your own side of the fifty yard line here.
I mean, there was a time you would no more
think about going for it here in the first quarter,
when you've got a chance to take a lead, and
we've greenlighted all these coaches with analytics, that hurts in trouble.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And broken up incomplete.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
Gunnard was the target this time, and instead of taking
the chip shot field goal, the Eagles go for it
on fourth and four and the Falcons defense makes the stock.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
So don't you think that when things get so ridiculous,
there tends to be a change and a turn the
opposite way. I feel like the analytics phase is starting
to die.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I hope.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
So I really dope, because you know what, all these
managers and all these head coaches in the NFL, if
you're just gonna go with analytics and buy the book,
then why are you there? That's right, Like you could
hire me. Just give me the numbers and I'll press
the appropriate button. Now's the point of you being there?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Well, we've already had a coach fired in the NFL
because of analytics. Brandon Staley lost his job primarily because
he was ridiculous and then going.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
He probably wanted him to do that, honestly, right, I mean,
you think they're just saying, hey, do whatever you want, right,
push buttons. I thought you were gonna mention this guy, Dan.
That guy may have been whacked because of analytics. Dan
Campbell had almost went to tears in the media last
week because of his dumb fourth down decisions. Let's get
a break, Apple Cup, Husky Hawks, My God next on
(33:30):
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