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September 17, 2024 37 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler is joined by Mario Bailey and Greg Lewis for The Husky Honks as the guys discuss the Apple Cup loss last week, the questionable fourth down call and offensive series at the end, plus facing Northwestern at home this week.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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(00:26):
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(00:59):
the hell was that on Saturday? Here we are, what
three days later, and I still don't understand what the
heck we were doing on fourth down. I don't understand
what the heck we were doing on third down with
that play to the corner where Denzel Boston had a
shot to leap for the pylon and maybe score. I
don't understand what we were doing on third and twenty

(01:21):
at the end of the first half with Johnny Football
taking off for twenty five yards. Look, there's a lot
I don't understand. Just when I wake up in the morning,
I really am kind of confused after what I saw
on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
How about you.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Well, football is an oblong shape and what they say,
sometimes the ball bounces real funny. Now, there was some
self inflicted wounds, and there was some mistakes like the
play call, but mistackles at the end of the half.
That's a player theing Denzel Boston taking six steps after
he catches the pass and not one of them was

(01:54):
vertically going towards the end zone or making an effort
to dial at the pylon.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Were execution issues.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Those are things that you try to prepare during the week,
get guys ready to do, and they don't do them,
and it leads to losses. But nothing can explain away
sixteen penalties. And to me, you start right there and
then you get to the end of the football game
where you have to score on fourth down. All those
other three things don't happen. You don't have to score

(02:22):
on fourth and one at the end of the game.
So there's a lot of executional issues that I think
led to me having a terrible week, because whenever the
dogs lose, I have a terrible week. Everybody's been consoling
me all week and saying, Greg, you know, I hope
you feel better, and all the people who work for
me know not.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
They are all taking vacation this week. All the people we.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Know two things then that Greg is a very mean boss.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Number one and number two that were still kind of,
you know, confused about what happened on Saturday, so judge Fish.
After the game, we talked about this Mario on the
postgame show. We all thought kind of really took ownership
of it. You know, it's on me. I regret it.
And then Monday at the press conference had a bit
of a different tone after watching the tape.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
We had a chance.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
We didn't execute the play I told the team last year.
It was fourth and one with a minute fifteen left
on the minus twenty nine and the eleven and zero
Washington team against the five and six Washington State team,
and they converted or reverse. A year later, it's fourth
and one with a minute twelve with a twenty four
to nineteen game, and we don't convert on an option play.

(03:30):
It had happens. If the reverse doesn't convert. Washington State
wins last year twenty four to twenty one. So in
our case, the option play didn't convert and we didn't
execute the play, and if we executed the play, it
would have converted.

Speaker 7 (03:47):
Mario, I don't know what to say about coach's analysis
of that. Sometimes I feel like when everybody is saying,
probably all his friends, his family, all the news, youse
off to everybody's saying and it was just a bad call.
Sometimes you hate to hear that and you go the
opposite because after the game, I thought he was very

(04:08):
accountable and just kind of said he messed that up.
But to say that they didn't execute, when those guys
just came off the ball and they were in the backfield,
it was overcrowded on that side of the short side,
it was a bad call.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
There's no question about it.

Speaker 7 (04:21):
That call should have never been called, and if it
was called, when they got to the line, they should
have been able to change the call there. If you
can't call the time out you have it, As Greg said,
a check with me and check out of that call instantly.
But I don't know why coach is doubling down.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
So I just reg request.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Will Rogers was on yesterday and confirmed that there was
no check to get to it was Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, that surprised you by the way too to some degree.
And I think the reason I say that is when
you call a time out to call a play, you're
supposed to be calling the play you think has the
absolute best chance, and you want to call a play
that regardless of what defense they're in, you have a
chance to execute. So somewhere in their minds now I

(05:09):
don't necessarily agree, but I'm not the coach, but somewhere
in their mind they felt like that play could be
executed regardless of what defense they saw, whatever the situation was,
so they didn't give him a call to check out
of it. And it could be a lot of pressure
for a college football player with the game on the
line to change the play from the one the coach

(05:29):
just called in the huddle unless they give you a
second play. So I would have given him a second
play and described exactly what if this happens if you
see this defense or if the defense reacts this way,
this is what you check to so that you have
that option. We saw that there was twelve seconds left
on the play clock when they snapped the football, So

(05:51):
if he saw something that would dictate him changing out
of that play and they gave him that second call,
he would have had time. So I think it was
a mistake not to give him that.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, you played more football than me, but it seems
a little bit very odd that you would not have
something to get into if you go out there and
don't see the defensive look that you thought you were
going to see, and if there's anybody who could handle that,
you'd think it's will Rogers. I mean, the guy's thirty
five years old, for god's sakes, playing football for ten years.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
This is not Demon Williams out there saying, Hey, run
the play I tell you to run. So, not having
a play to get out of if you're not getting
the right look, how much did that surprise you?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
And the number two?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Is there anything that you can think of, Mario that
would justify running that particular play at that time of
the game to that side of the field.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
No, And I thought the exact same thing you thought.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
I thought Rogers has been playing college football for why
played in the SEC. He's done a great job that
he can handle that type of pressure and he can
handle a check with me. And he had enough time,
as Greg just stated, there was twelve seconds. He could
have changed the call. No, I don't think you know.
I don't want to get on a coach, but I
think you're supposed to let him go. If you can't

(07:02):
call the time out, then he has to have a
different call just in case what happened when the first
time happened and they're already in the defense, so he
should have been able to change the call.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Well, and look, there's there's so much that goes into
this thing. On Saturday, obviously we're all focusing on that play,
and hey, for Cougar fans, that's one of the greatest
plays in Cougar football history.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean, it just is right. I Mean, you got
Jake Dicker talking about never giving.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
The Apple Cup trophy back for God's sakes, like he
has no idea they might lose it next year. But
good for them. I mean, we were concerned about this
pre give about the emotion that Washington State was going
to play with and that kind of thing is hard
to measure.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I said this to Dick yesterday, and I said it
to you guys postgame Saturday. I felt like for a
large majority of that game, Washington was relying on talent
and was who was playing with heart, passion and emotion,
and they came out like they were playing their Super Bowl.
And what new heisl said to us last Thursday that
Jake Dicker can address that Cougar football team and say, hey,
imagine the gift that we can give our fan base

(07:56):
for the hell that they've been through for the last
year and a half in this game, and they played motivated.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
We've talked for several years on this show about motivation
and about how teams are motivated, what kind of strategies
and things coaches use a motivate player where there's bulletinton
board material or some perceived defense, which they certainly had
a lot of those that build on and talk about.
We also talked about before this game the lack of
the number of players on the Husky sideline who have

(08:23):
played in an Apple Cup who have been a part
of that for any reason. Absolutely, I think when you
say you saw them play with more emotion, you saw
them play with more determination. They were obviously better prepared.
When we committed sixteen penalties, that tells me there we
were not focused during the week like we should be.
Now the coaches may say, well, we had a good

(08:44):
week of practice, there's somewhere a lack of concentration and
attention to detail and focus. When you have sixteen pillars,
you can't excuse that away. You can try to all
you want, but that goes back to preparation, tension to detail,
and Don James was big on that and that's why
we typically we didn't create many penalties, so they were

(09:04):
obviously better prepared. Yeah, they took it more, you know, seriously.
As far as emotional, I think our players took it seriously,
but they were more emotional about this is a big, big,
big game, and I think he used all of those things.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
No question that they had guys that understood what this
rivalry was. And our team is pretty much brand new
coaching staff included, so they're not taking into consideration the rivalry.
Like Washington State was the last play of the game.
If you look at that play, it shows you who
wanted it more. They blew them off the line. They
wanted the game like that is the most important play,

(09:38):
and they blew them off the line. And they were
in the backfield before Will got down the line, so
they definitely wanted it more.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Especially the center of the right guarden, right, you know,
Enoch and di'angelo just got blown off the ball. I
mean they was, you know, ball snap boom. They were,
you know, a yard and a half behind the line
of scrimmage. And that play had no chance from the
start because the offensive line got blown off the ball.
Even if they did hold a block, still did not
have the numbers. That's what drives me crazy, Like there's
gonna be an unaccounted for player. Absolutely that's gonna have

(10:07):
a shot to make that tackle. So that's where I look.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I mean, I think honestly, guys, with Jed what I've
observed from him so far, and I think that this
is a potential positive for him at Washington. He's gonna
live or die with the NFL model of the way
of doing things. The old days of a college football
coach coming out and saying, hey, don't criticize players, they're
just kids. Those days are over. And Jedfish mentioned this

(10:32):
over the offseason when he talked about the way college
football is now set up. If you don't like the
locker room, you can take off. Same thing for coaches,
you know, like the players you got, you can find
a way to get rid of them and move on.
Brian Callahan coming out Titans ripping Will levis.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
A new one right the other day. You know, I
mean that is will deserve.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Everything he does now is about the NFL model. And
I don't know if fans are ready for this yet
to be totally honest with you, but I think that
Jed Fish is gonna approach everything like that.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
But I mean, Greg, you.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Said in the postgame show, hell you set in the
press box on third down the minute of happened when
Denzel and you're a former wide receiver. I can't imagine
JaMarcus Shephard coaching Denzel Boston to catch that ball and
then instead of fighting a way to get to the pylon,
he gets out of bounce.

Speaker 7 (11:19):
Everybody's different, you know, some people smell the end zone,
some people want the end zone. You can look at
the catcher, the non catch that he did before then
it might it should have been a catch that in
the end zone. But everybody, if you look at the
Marvin Harrison play, he smelled the end zone. He's jumping
from like the six yard line. I don't want to
criticize Denzel, but everybody is not liking the zone like that.

(11:43):
Some people get in the zone, some people just make
a few catches, right.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
I think some of its situational awareness too. You got
to know before that play where you are on the field,
so that if I make it, we're running a seven
yard route. Let's just say we're on the twelve yard line.
If I run a seven yard route, that means at
five more yards to get to the end zone. So
when I catch the ball, if I'm on the five
of the four, if I turn, I have enough room

(12:06):
to turn, then I can make an attempt to get
to the en zone. Now, if we're on the twenty
and I catch a seven yard route, I got to
get out of bounds, right, I got to kill the clock.
So was he aware of where he was? Was he
thinking about that? Was he prepared?

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I know?

Speaker 5 (12:19):
I'm just you still have a minute something to go.
So if you go out the seven, you still got time.
But if you know you're catching the ball on the
four turn, get into the end zone.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
I'm just saying, not only was he not sniffing the
end zone, but was he even situationally aware of what
he was and what was happening on that play. I
got a question that and I say.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
Like I hated more than anything when I played here
at the University of Washington, that I would get the
ball and get to the one or two yard line
and Greg and deal Mark Burnell was getting it, not
pitch it, get in the end zone. So when you
have an opportunity like that as a receiver and you
know you want to make the play, like I said,
everybody is not that way and they don't understand how

(13:03):
important it is to get in that end zone. It
didn't feel like that from him, and I don't like
saying that.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Well, I mean, look, the other part of it is
the penalties. As you talked about. You know, through all this,
you had a chance. It's seventeen to sixteen, mid third quarter,
and you got Wazoo third and eighteen from their own
twenty six yard line. You got to stop and Jordan
Shaw gets called for a holding penalty and the coops
have new life at first and ten Parker goes for
thirty seven, A Tier goes for eleven, and then Meredith,

(13:30):
who came out of nowhere, catches that sixteen yard touchdown pass.
It you go from getting the ball back to three
plays later down twenty four to sixteen at that point,
and I just don't know you mentioned it. You weren't
a part of a lot of games like that. You know,
Pete Carroll had some issues early on with penalties, obviously,
start hats some issues with penalties obviously. Can you just

(13:51):
explain in bozo terms for my purposes how that happens
that a team has that many flags in a game
at those kinds of crucial moment.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Again, it goes back to your preparation, attention to detail
at practice. I mean, we you know there's the famous practice.
We're talking about practice in football. I'm gonna tell you
practice is so important.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
One.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
You got to rehearse every situation that you're going to see. Right,
so if you do have fourth and one on the
goal line, you got to get in. You've seen this
defense and you know what to change it to. You
prepared for it. You also got to have attention to
detail during practice, the little things having to focused attention
on not jumping off sides, watching the ball, if you're

(14:32):
on the defensive line, if you are rushing the passer,
not just hit a guy in the head because they
call that. You know that that hands to the head thing.
So it's if you practice bad habits and you do
those things all practice long, guess what happens in the game.
They show up right, they're there, So you can't tell
me that there weren't things in practice that were going
on that they needed to you know, and somebody asked

(14:55):
us in the post game show, how do well, how
do you you know, prepare against that? Well, one, you
hold everybody accountable when they do make a mistake in practice.
When somebody jumps off sides, there's some sort of penalties,
there's some running, there's some pushups, there's you know, guys
getting cussed out something, so that they are well aware
that when I get in the game, I better not
do that. And you've reinforced it on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

(15:20):
and then on Saturday you go out and you can
play mistake free football.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
Lack of focus and concentration, like the bad part of
it is we've been talking about for two weeks or
at least. I have a hot clean they've been playing,
and I was happy that they weren't getting too many
penalties or making too many mistakes. But we literally cost
ourselves a game a lack of focus and concentration. We
talked about Washington State wanting a game more, Yeah, they
wanted it more. If we come into a game and

(15:47):
get sixteen penalties, that's just a total lack of focus
and total lack of concentration.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Right well, and then going back to the end of
the first half, you know, third and twenty, you give
up a twenty five yard run to Johnny Mattier for
just a back breaker of a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I mean to play before.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I think it was too Patala with the sack, which
could not have come at that point at a better
time for them. I mean, it was just my god,
second and ten from the fifteen and bang here comes
number eleven. You're thinking we're gonna get out of here
with a field goal at most, and then Johnny Mattier
the next play is in the end zone. So what
happened on that play When you went back and watched
the film, guys, what did you see on that touchdown run,
because that seemed to be just as big, almost as

(16:24):
that fourth down stop.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Well, the first thing I saw is that there was
really only one linebacker in the middle of the field.
We had two patala coming from the outside and kind
of like a rest position, and so there was one
linebacker in the middle. Now, when you have guys all
coming up the field at that level and there's only
one guy in the middle, once he breaks through, that's
only one guy who can make the tackle, and he

(16:46):
made that guy miss or you ran through the tackle.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Now you're counting on secondary guys.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
And they had receivers down the field blocking who again
how bad they wanted to win. And you had a
quarterback who's a bigger guy who runs the ball will
who was determined breaking tackle, stiff Farman evading guys. But
I think it started off right from the beginning where
you only had one guy in the middle of the
field at the linebacker depth. So once he gets through

(17:11):
the line of scrimmage, because Twopatalo was on the outside,
maybe it was Bruner or Price, I don't know who
was the middle linebacker, but you only had one guy there.
Once he gets through that first wave, and Mario reminded
me we had something similar. We played UCLA and it
was fourth, it was third and like eleven or something
on the eleven yard line, and we ran the old

(17:32):
draw play where we allowed the line of scrimmage to
kind of bait them the coming up to that second level.
And once I got through, there was only one linebacker
in a safety and scored a touchdown. So it started
with the alignment, I guess, you know, sometimes you take
a chance, you do what you gotta do. But the
alignment didn't help by that play and then the determination
to want to of their quarterback and our guys who

(17:55):
didn't sell out to make the tackle didn't bring the
guy down when they had the chance to.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Just feel like the sideline coach or somebody looking from
the stands, But it's a lack of identifying, like guys
should have been calling that out. There was only one
linebacker out there, but it felt like nobody said draw, draw, draw,
like I thought it was a draw from the beginning.
I thought there one chance to just get this quarterback
in space, get a few yards so they can kick

(18:22):
the field go. We had one guy for him to
make miss and once he made him miss, it was
over and he's in the end zone. Like I didn't
see anybody identifying that this could be a quarterback draw.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
And the defensive performance, I mean, look, I mean overall,
I would have told you they scored twenty four.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
He'd probably take that before the game.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
They scored sixty five points in their previous two games,
and you're holding these guys to twenty four. Carson Brunner
goes out with about ten minutes to go, and the
Cougars don't score a point the rest of the way
in the fourth quarter. So, I mean, it was just
the you're in these advantageous positions and you cannot take
advantage of them. And that's the most frustrating part is
that overall the defense played pretty darn well, but that

(19:01):
one or two moments where they're just up against the
eight ball and they give it all. They just give
all of it up, Right, They played great for nine
plays and then just terrible for that one play. They
can't play terrible lot.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Well, We've all heard football is a game of inches,
and this was a sort of an example of that.
One thing I will say, though, is that all day
we gave the quarterback too much time. There was no
pass rush to think about when he needed to complete
a pass. He didn't complete a time, but when he
needed to he did because we gave him all dang
day and miss tackles.

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Speaker 8 (20:01):
Thirty yard line snapped the Rodgers back to pass Rogers.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
From the forty yard line. Branks up goes deep down the.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
Field, Giles Jackson tim it tucksdown under the goalposts. The
beauty of a ball from Will Rogers and a deep
one thirty one yards to Giles Jackson for his first
touchdown catch of the season.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
That was a would you call it a balloon?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
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Speaker 5 (20:55):
It's gotta be Jiles Jackson. I mean, he had a
phenomenal game. He really really had a breakout. Caught deep
passes down the field, scored a touchdown, like you said,
got both feet in. And if you're looking for something
to build on to move forward to next week, because
you got to, you know, reorganize. Now get ready for Northwestern.
It's the down the field passing game. It was spectacular

(21:16):
in a lot of ways. The quarterback threw for over
three hundred twelve yards, but Joles Jackson had a phenomenal game.
That's something to build on for next week. We've opened
up the down the field passing game, and Northwestern's got
to be a little little nervous.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
About that about you.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
I don't want to go with who Greg said.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
You know, Joles Jackson, hands down probably had the best game.
So I'm gonna go who I went with before the game,
and I'm gonna go with that Eus Dixon. I thought
he played well. He's always around the ball. He got
the interception. Had we not went three and out after
the interception, I think we had an intentional grounding call
or something that would have he would have easily been

(21:52):
the player of the game because that was one of
the biggest plays in the game.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
So I'm gonna go with Thatdy sticks well.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Jiles Jackson's on pace for ninety six catches in thirteen
hundred yard I mean, who would have thought, Donsay.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
John Dollar put a dollar in the jar? Is that
like a tick with you or something? Is this something
going on there?

Speaker 6 (22:12):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
You just doing this on purpose?

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Now?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
But he is on pace to be an all big
ten type of wide receiver, right, so uh he went
crazy obviously.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Joronah Coleman, though, had fourteen carries, and a lot of
people pointed that out that that just not enough for
number one. There were times where maybe you thought he
would have gotten the ball, including that fourth down play
by the way, Greg he had the nine yard carry
to the nine yard line. Never saw the ball again
the rest of the game except for that little option.
Obviously that didn't work out. But did they get Jonah

(22:44):
Coleman involved enough in the offense on side?

Speaker 5 (22:46):
I would have been happy with him having his fifteenth
carry on that last play running down the for sure.
Yes he did, I said running down for sure.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
I would have been happy.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Well, maybe that would have been his fourteenth carry then,
but a downhill carry. But I'm not That's not the
reason why we lost that they didn't give the ball enough.
Here's why I say that one Washington State showed from
the beginning of the game they were selling out to
stop him. They were afraid of him having a big game,
so defensively they were selling out to stop him. Our
play action pass game worked well. I think our opportunities

(23:18):
down the field you know where, Well, we had four
hundred and fifty yards offense three hundred twelve yards passing.
We ran the ball in the situations where it mattered.
I think you mentioned earlier he was only having three
point five yards per carry Other than that one, yes, yeah,
But my point is this, that's not why we lost

(23:39):
the game. It wasn't that he didn't get enough touches,
enough carries, because they were selling out to stop the
run and it opened up our pass game. That is
the reason we were able to throw for three hundred twelve.
I guarantee, if you go and add up the number
of those yards that were on play action pass, it
would be an overwhelming percentage of three hundred twelve.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
How about you? Was it enough of number one Saturday?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
It's not enough?

Speaker 7 (23:58):
And I will say this if Greg, if we were
playing Greg Lewis and we gave him the ball fourteen
times and then we gave it to Beno and Jay
a few more times, he would not be agreeing.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
I don't care what they did.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
I'd already had over one hundred yards on the fourteen carries,
so it would have been enough.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
So I just don't agree I think we need to
make sure make a concerted effort to get this young
man the ball at least twenty times. He is our playmaker,
and we have to figure out ways to get him
the ball.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
I don't think fourteen carres Well.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
First of all, you mentioned Thaddeus Dixon as your dog
of the game. Had to pick with eight fourteen left
to go right in the fourth quarter, I believe it.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Three and now well you go.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I mean, first of all, you get the grinding calling
first down, and then you're about to go for it
on fourth and eight from the other forty one and
a lot two jumps, and all of a sudden you're done.
It's fourth and thirteen. Let me forget about it. So
those types of things, that's what I'm talking about. I mean,
these crucial like have a false start on first and ten,

(24:58):
not fourth and eight from the opponent forty one and
blow any chance of going forward. That's just absolute lack
of focus late in the game.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Absolutely, But why have penalties at all? Why be behind
the chains on first down? There's a certain number of
penalties I guess you can say in a game are acceptable, Right,
there's a number you're going to have because sometimes the
referees are new n Income poops and they call a
holding that's not a holding, or you know, a block
in the back that was really on the side, or
something stupid like that. But I guarantee you that number

(25:26):
that's acceptable is not sixteen or anywhere close. It probably
ends around four or five. And that was a huge reason.
You know, some of those penalties might have been on
places where they were gonna give Jonah Coleman the football
on the offensive side, you know, before it got started,
or some of those false starts and things like that,
so the game plan might have dictated a few more carries, Mario.

(25:47):
But I guess my point about Jonah was it was
still enough based on all the things we did off
of the play action and things like that, for those
to be effect right and successful, especially a defense selling out.
But you cannot have have eight, nine, ten, but let
alone sixteen penalties and still think you're gonna win the
football game. That's why I say it was still amazing,

(26:08):
right that we were one yard away from a.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Bag last night. I don't get Maro's take on this jetfish.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
With Tony at the Coaches Show, we talked about Denzel
Boston not diving for the end zone of the pylon.
Jetfish told Tony that their coach to not do that
because they're afraid of fumbling the ball.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
What's your take on that. I've said it before.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Each coach is different, you know, and I've been around
coaches that do not dive. Do not take that risk,
because if you fumble, and we've been practicing not to
take that risk a million times, then you're going to
be in trouble. But there's also the situation of it
being that situation that we were in a third down,

(26:48):
down by the end zone and you're trying to win.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Sometimes you have to make the exception.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
But I understand if you're a new player, new coaching staff,
you're not trying to go opposite. It's just like Will Rogers,
like he could have got out of that play if
he wanted to, But you're not going to do anything
the coach doesn't want.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
You to do.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Well, there was nothing to check into though, No, But I.

Speaker 7 (27:09):
Mean as a quarterback, you've been playing in the SEC,
you've played over forty college games, you can do something.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, What's what's got to happen is that Jedfish from
the sideline and He mentioned this yesterday too. To his credit,
Jed last night said, look, I've gotten until fifteen seconds
on the play clock to get my quarterback's helmet and
say either take a delay or do something else, and he.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
It was a conscious decision, guys, to continue with the
play after what he saw from the Cougar defense.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
That's one hundred percent clear now, which was a mistake.
But go back to your earlier point. Who says a
guy who catches the ball and takes six steps latterly
would have had to dive. He could have just turned
and went up the field. He didn't have to dive.
I don't want to hear, well, I coach him not
to dive. What about coaching would turn up the field

(28:00):
and run vertically towards the end zone?

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Maybe you have to stick the ball out.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
You ain't got to die when I from what I saw,
he could have just turned and stretched the ball out.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Okay, you don't want him to die.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
What about turning up the field vertically instead of run
out of bounds, stretch the ball out, get it as
close to the end zone or in the touch it
you can touch the ball with the pilot touch That.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
There's been too many times where you see that right
at the goal line, the guy stretches the ball and
you can see a guy bat the ball down or
fumble the ball and it's a touch back.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
So I mean, how many times have you seeing the
ball on the one and you not get in that happens?

Speaker 4 (28:37):
He went to say, for out, I understand the young
man turn up the field vertically, Yeah, but try to
get the en zone.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
You brought it up.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
He's still a young guy, right, I mean it's his
second or third year, probably he hasn't played a ton,
just started. For if I told him, and I told
you before the game, you're gonna have one man to
beat to the end zone, one man to beat to
the corner with the game on the line, you would say,
sign me up.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, every time, right, sign me up right now.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
So the next time Denzel Boston is in that position,
I think he's doing what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Doing, and I think he's more spatially aware.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
I know, if I catch the ball, I'm going to
be in a position where I can get towards the
end zone.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
Because I mean that goes for coach Fish and it
goes for Will Rogers too. The next time we're in
this position, if we come down to the goal line,
we're not going to the short side.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Of the Let me ask Mario one question.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
They run it again, Hey, but Mario, let me, I mean,
let me ask Mario one question. What are you taught
when it's it's third and six? What is the one
thing they tell you not to do? Run a five
yard round s? If you could catch the ball on
the four yard line and you know he want to

(29:51):
get the zoe, don't be running out of bounds. Receivers
are taught to know where they are and make the
play according to where you are.

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Speaker 3 (30:16):
Northwestern up next.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
The Wildcats sitting there with a two to one record,
coming off wins over Miami of Ohio, Eastern Illinois and
a lost to Duke two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Out of the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
The Big Ten Conference debut for a U DUB Northwestern
U DUB on Saturday at four o'clock. Where do the
Huskies go from here? How do they bounce back from this?
Do they worry about getting beat by the same team twice?

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Speaker 4 (31:22):
Second down and five coming up.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Shot gun snapped of my tier.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
My tier fires down the left sideline, intercepted by Thattius Dixon.
Dixon picks off the football the twenty yard line. Can
I get blockers? Up the left side thirty across the
thirty five and Towny goes at the thirty eight yard line.
Battius Dixon comes up with the first pick of the
season for the Huskies.

Speaker 7 (31:44):
Uh.

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(32:04):
now to four nine to four, five to one, so
real quick, just kind of putting a bow on the
Apple Cup. We haven't talked in detail about the game
that Will Rogers had guys over the weekend for dub
put up some pretty decent numbers for Washington. Did take
some inopportune sacks, obviously, but overall for Will on the
day against Washington State twenty three to thirty one, three fourteen.

(32:28):
The touchdown had the grounding call after Dixon's interception, and
then took a sack on third and eight from the
Cougar twenty four that led to a field goal. I
don't remember watching those sacks, thinking get rid of the ball,
get rid of the ball. He was under some duress
in that game, I thought on Saturday, but would you
make of the way number seven played Mario?

Speaker 4 (32:47):
I thought he played great. I thought he did a
great job.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
It was twenty three for thirty one, three hundred yards
a touchdown. Of course, I wish he could have did
better in the clutch when we needed it, went the
fourth quarter when we had the ball a couple times.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
But I thought overall, Will played a great game.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Yeah, I thought he played well. I thought the coaches
put him uh situations to succeed. They actually open up
the playbook. They let him throw the ball down the field.
And if I'm if I'm mistaken, my apologies, But it
seems like that long pass was a.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Play actions Jackson.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Yeah, fake the handoff the linebackers, you know, hesitate a
little bit the safeties. Then Giles Jackson gets behind him.
He throws a perfect football, I mean perfect, And again
that's that's that's kind of what I'm getting at. You
know these guys, you know he plays, that's his in
his wheelhouse. The crossing routes to play action kind of thing,
and I really like Giles Jackson.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
What he did well.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
He you know, reminds me of another five foot seven
wide receiver that we had back in my era that
was pretty dang good too. You know those both those
guys are about five to seven and they're really good
wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
One records I know.

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(34:14):
for this week. We're still waiting on Quentin More to return.
But the biggest question is how do you make sure
guys the Cougars don't beat it twice against Northwestern this Saturday.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
Oh, we have to go back to the basics and
we have to figure out our identity I steal. Greg says,
we're a running team, But I don't know. We had
a running back that did great in the first game,
and he seems to be like maybe our best players,
so people are keying on him. But I don't know
if we're a run team a past team. I don't
really know what our defense is. We had a bad game.
We looked like an average team this past weekend, so

(34:46):
I don't know. I think you just have to go
back to basics and get the focus. We have to
have a clean game. You cannot go into a game
and have sixteen penalties. Ever again, Mario, you have to
listen to me a little more.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
All right. We are a play action team. Who we are.
We run good enough to make teams have to respect it.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
And I think our quarterback has a feel for the
play action game and timing wise, and we run some
really good routes in that. And I think Giles Jackson
has shown himself to be a really good down the
field receiver and can hurt you. What I think you
need to do is make Sunday that has just passed
the last time you think about the Apple Cup, because
you got to prepare these guys for moving forward to

(35:25):
be successful. So what I think you do is you
highlight what good came out of that game. Before that game,
you hadn't really featured the downfield passing game, and Giles
Jackson had had good games, but this was a breakout.
So now we know we can throw the ball down
the field on anybody. We know we have a great
go to wide receiver in Jiles Jackson. We know Will
Rogers is poised, he's got control of the game and

(35:46):
he's going to complete a lot of passes. That touched
down to Giles. I mean, yes, it hovered in the
air longer than you know what we were used to
see in the last couple of years, but it was
a good pass and really hit the guy in the hands.
Grady Gross. You know you have a kicker who's out
of mad. That's right, you know, in any clutch or
crunch situation or need kick that needs to be made,

(36:06):
you know, Grady Ghost Gross is going to do any
leeds to do. And we've seen Jonah Coleman be that
it guy in you know, certain situations, so you know
you still have a strong running game. We didn't feature
it as much this week, but I think his yard
per Carrie fourteen for seventy seven was still a good
day for him, So you situate highlight and build on
those things to move forward.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, nothing like coming out and kicking Northwestern's ass from
the jump this Saturday and getting that taste out of
your mouth. I mean, look, you want to put this
thing behind you. I want to go five and one
and beat Michigan in three weeks from now. You know,
b where you were hoping to be record wise, but
maybe just get there a different way. And I'll tell
you what I like to see happen. Guys number one,
I'd like to see the timing of the quarterback substitutions

(36:48):
maybe make a little more sense. I have no problem
playing to Mon Williams. I think playing him is a
good idea. Hell, I like to see him play at
the same time as Will Rogers. I mean, they had
Mohammed and Coleman out there together in the game on Saturday,
but I thought the timing of those substitutions fed a
little bit off on Saturday.

Speaker 7 (37:05):
Well, I thought that too, but Greg did a good
job of trying to make it sound like that they
came in there when Will Rogers needs a break.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Well, he certainly came in after that long run, and
I don't think he was hurt. I think he just
wanted to bring his number two guys. All right, that's
it for US four o'clock per kickoff against Northwestern on
Saturday twelve o'clock pregame from the zone.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
We'll talk to you then. John Willner joins.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
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