September 18, 2024 • 33 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain discuss whether Shaun Alexander should be in the Hall of Fame, get Mike Florio’s take on that and more NFL news this week, then share Jackson’s Fact or Fiction pick before reacting to Fun with Audio clips.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I guess technically the Mariners still have some life. But
even a guy like me, right, even captain is it?
What's fighting positive? Captain Positive?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thank you? And you're what again, I'm Sergeant Doom.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yes, yes, yes, even a guy like me, Captain Positive,
is starting to kind of run out of a lot
of steels. What about that some bump yesterday? It's slowing down?
You're slowing down. Yesterday was a bump, bump, bump.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I would say this like, it's like ten beats a minute.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I mean, that's what we're gonna get a figures this
game tonight. I think, Well, here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Like, you spend an entire week playing good baseball and
raising your playoff odds from like seven percent to fifteen percent,
and then you have one bad night where you have
a bad night and the Tigers in Minnesota have good
nights and you go right back to where you start.
It's like pushing the stone up the hill for a week.
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You have one bad night, and that's the situation you've
put yourself in. You'll put yourself so far behind the
eight ball that one bad night just crushes your odds.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, well I'll tell you what, man, it's a big
one tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I mean, it's kind of must win territory, and I
wonder how Danny Wilson will manage this thing?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Is ben at the ballpark? Jackson? Is that right? Mike there?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So we're gonna hear from Dan Wilson a little bit
later on the show. We haven't heard much from him lately. Uh,
so we'll get him on and just get his thoughts
on on tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But I was, I was kind of interested.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
We got a few minutes from before Mike Florio jumps
on the air with us at three ten.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Courtesy is simply Seeattle.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We're gonna give away one more pair of tickets on
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tickets on simply Seattle's big boat on Saturday. During the
Mike Florio conversation. But you mentioned there in the break
that Sean Alexander is up for the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yes? Is that right? Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
What when you hear Sean Alexander and Pro Football Hall
of Fame, what is your just gut initial reaction to that?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
How I mean, my initial gut reaction is when I
look at the body of work and the length of
time he was dominant. I lean know, but one hundred touchdowns,
that's Hall of Fame, period, because I believe everybody else
with one hundred touchdowns is in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's accurate, that's completely correct. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
There are only seven players and they excuse me, nine
players in the history of the NFL that have one
hundred rushing touchdowns. Derek Henry's gonna get there eventually. He's
got ninety two when he's eleventh overall, so there's gonna
be ten when it's all said and done. But after
Derrick Henry, as far as active guys go, the next
closest is Ezekiel Elliott. He's never getting there. He's thirty away.
He's got seventy two. So there's gonna be ten guys
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after Derek Henry gets this done. I mean, he might
do it this year.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
He might do it. I have no idea how much
longer he's gonna play. He's on my fantasy, so I
hope he does it this year.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Doesn't happen this year, it's gonna he needs eight more,
all right, So he's got a really really good shot
to be the tenth guy to get one hundred touchdowns.
And every everybody on the top fifteen list in the
NFL that has ninety touchdowns or more, every single one
of them is in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Now you can argue that EMMITTT.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Smith, Ladinian, Tomlinson, Marcus all and blah blah blah may
have more rushing yards than Sean Alexander, and I'm totally
fine with that. Like LT is seventh, Curtis Martin is
right behind Sean, he's sixth overall. Adrian Peterson is right there,
but he's number five in rushing. Sean is thirty seventh
in the NFL and rushing yards total. I think what
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dings him as two things. Number one, the fact that
he played behind Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson, and then
number two of the fact that he got banged up
and was never able to, you know, kind of add
to that rushing total. So if Sean Alexander had just
kind of found a way, Dick to kind of just
hang on and rack up, like you know, an extra
thousand yards over garbage time over the course of his career.
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He's top thirty in the NFL in rushing yards and
he's top ten in touchdown He probably isn't a freak
an MVP, for God's sakes, only offensive MVP the Hawks
have ever had, So I I don't know if he
is a Hall of Famer or not. I am absolutely
convinced though, that the conversation needs to be had about
whether or not Sean Alexander belongs to the Hall of Fame.
For sure, absolutely, And when you look at that, I
would not just dismiss it. I wouldn't ding him for
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Steve Hutchinson. If you're gonna ding him for Steve Hutchinson
and Walter Jones and Emmitt Smith needs to be dinged
because Emitt Smith may have played in front of the
best offensive line in a generation right in the early
nineties with three and.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
They had five studs. We only had two studs. So
I don't think you can dig ding Sean for hutch Well.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
We should ask Florio when he comes on about kind
of the national view of of Sean. But I guess
if you're gonna dig him like you said, for playing
behind Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson, then you're basically telling
me that anybody who played behind that offensive line was
going to get no credit whatsoever. Like, there's nobody that
could have played behind that offensive line that would have
been given any credit. The guy had five consecutive thousand
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yard seasons for god sakes, all right, Mike Florio, courtesy
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Speaker 1 (05:24):
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Speaker 2 (05:47):
Our friend, Michael Florio, how are you, man, gentlemen? Hello man, uh,
we were just talking about this. Hello, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
We were just talking about this before you came on.
Shawn Alexander. When I say the name Sean Alexander, do
you think Pro Football Hall of Fame?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I don't know. Hey, let me give you full disclosure.
I really don't care about the Hall of Fame anymore.
It's listen, listen, here's why. Here's why. The couple of reasons.
First of all, football is a team sport. At least
that's what they tell me. It's the ultimate team sport.
So why do we get twisted up over who gets
a bus in a museum in Canton? That's relevant for
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one weekend out of a year, and it's a business,
and part of the goal of the business is to
make that weekend as profitable as possible for the hotels
and restaurants in Canton. I've just become very jaded about it.
They change the rules all the time. We've talked about
that before as it relates to Mike Holmgren. They do
what they want to do. Periodically, they decide we're going
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to open the floodgates on whoever we missed in the
past that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
We want to get in now.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I just don't have a whole lot of significance that
I attached to it, and I go back to something
beyond Sanders said a couple of years ago that I
agree with. He said many things recently that I don't
agree with. In his capacity it's head coach of Colorado.
I agree that the bar is too low. Generally, there
are people in the Hall of Fame who shouldn't be
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the Only people who should get into the Hall of
Fame are the people who you don't even have to
argue that they should be Hall of famers. So, Seawn Alexander,
the mere fact that we would have to debate it
under the standard I'd like to see for the Pro
Football Hall of Fame, the answer would be no, because
it's only the Tom Brady's, it's only the clear cuts
upper room. And we've argued there should be an upper room,
and we've tried to identify who would be in the
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upper room, the best of the best, the ones that
there's no question that they should be in Canton. So
there's my short answer, not that short, to a question
that is far simpler in my mind than it is
for many others.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Mike, the number one pick in the draft less than
eighteen months ago, has now been benched. How much of
the onus is on Bryce Young? How much is on
the Panthers organization? And how serious are you when you said,
and the next class a quarterback should refuse to play
for that franchise.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I'm entirely serious because this is something that is overdue.
And maybe it's like football's version of Haley's comment, it
comes around to be twenty one years because it happened
in nineteen eighty three, it happened in two thousand and four.
Maybe it'll happen in twenty twenty five where someone one
or more players who are drafted by teams that have
proven to be dysfunctional in a variety of ways, and
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it starts with ownership and trickles down. I'm not going
to go there and ruin my career. I'm not going
to go there and have for the early stages of
my time in the NFL the bust label.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Hung upon me.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Because even if it is a bunch of different factors,
the player is the one who wears that scarlet letter.
So we look at Bryce Young and we stay bust,
and we won't know any differently until he gets a
chance to start for someone else, and we have no
idea if he's ever going to get that chance for
when it will be. Look at Geno Smith, ruined by
the Jets. How long did it take him to get
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his second chance and how different things could have gone
for him as he had landed in a place that
wasn't dysfunctional when he was drafted all those years ago.
Same thing for Sam Donald. Look at what he's doing
in Minnesota now after being ruined by the Jet coincidentally.
So I think there's enough signs, circumstantial evidence in my
own experience and my own gut feeling as to how
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things work in the NFL. David Tepper a guy who
has been very successful his entire life, and he thinks
if he wants it hard enough, and if he follows
his heart and works really hard, he can bend things
in his favor. He wanted get Bryce Young, and he
was wrong, and now as quickly as he fell in
love with him, he's fallen out of.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Love with him.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
And hopefully he gets the fair shots somewhere else. Hopefully
he gets a chance to develop with a good supporting cast,
stable coaching, and an owner who doesn't mess everything up.
So yeah, I think it would be great now that
these guys have nil mard, it would be great if
one or more of them would say I am determining
where I'm gonna go, or more accurately, I'm gonna determine
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where I'm not gonna go, and I'll sit out for
a year if you draft me Carolina Panthers, I'll sit
out a year, I'll live off my nail money, and
I'll re end of the draft next year.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, it's puffed the brakes on Darnold though a little bit.
He's played two games for got SIGs.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
No I could still. I mean, we don't talk the
breaks on Geno.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
He's point starting for two and a half years now.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
My point is that first team that a team plays for,
that a player plays for, has a huge impact on
how he's perceived. I go back to nineteen ninety nine.
If Donough McNabb had been drafted by the Bengals and
Achilly Smith had landed with the Eagles, who's to say
Smith wouldn't have been the fringe Hall of Famer and
McNabb wouldn't have watched out of the NFL with a
three and fourteen record.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, no, that's fair to a tongueo by low and
not gonna play in the game with the Seahawks on Sunday.
How much talk do you really think there is behind
the scenes about him calling it quits.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Well, look, any of these teams that know what they're
doing always have strategic conversations. I don't know about whether
or not he's gonna call it quits, and I have
no opinion in that regard. It's up to the doctors preliminarily,
because first he has to be cleared to play again,
and then it's up to him does he want to
play again. There is one hundred and sixty two million
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dollars hanging in the balance, because if he's never cleared,
that's what he gets from the Dolphins. If he is
cleared and he doesn't play, that's what he loses, including
forfeiting much of his forty two million dollars signing bonus
from his contract from just several weeks ago. I think
where this is heading, and I'm trying to read the
Tea leaves here and come up with a plausible outcome
Step one. I think what's going to happen is he's
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not going to play again this year, because how do
you make a good decision about your future when you
are feeling that urgency of I need to get back
and play. I need to get back and play. And
I think that shutting him down for the season. And
I don't know if the Dolphins will announce he's not
coming back. I think he just stays on IR and
never comes off of IR. But I don't think he
can play again this year because I think he needs
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to get distanced from this season to make a good decision. Secondly,
and this is more speculation wrapped around common sense and
an understanding of how things can work. I think what
we may see after this year is a negotiated compromise
between the Dolphins and Tua where he walks away and
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he gets let's say, half of the money that he's
due fully guaranteed under and guaranteed for injury under his contract,
that the Dolphins don't eat at all. He doesn't lose
it all, and there's a fair compromise and he moves on,
and I think the league probably wants that because at
this point, anytime he's on the field, we're all going
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to be on the edge of our seats about that
next kit he take. I'm surprised we weren't there all
of last season. I think we kind of were. But
if he played and played and played that war off.
I think if he ever comes back again, we're going
to constantly be watching and waiting for the next concussion
and is that the last concussion? And I just think
the game itself, the league, I think the best interest
of everyone would probably be to find wait for him
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to move on. But the end of the day, if
he's cleared and if he wants to play, he has
every right to play.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Might this rash of injuries that we're seeing, particularly the
soft tissue injuries Isaiah Pacheco notwithstanding, I mean, is this
related to the lack of work these players are getting
in the preseason.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
I think if we went back in track the early
season injuries every year, we would see the same numbers.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
The lack of work in the preseason and training camp
has gone back really twenty eleven, when they changed the
CBA to have less workout time in the offseason, less
intense training camp. Certain old school coaches would say, you
have less of a callous on your body getting ready
for the season. But now they're in the fourth year
of seventeen regular season games in three preseason games, it's
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fair to wonder the teams that aren't playing their starters,
are they not as ready to go as the teams
that do play their starters in the preseason, like the Chiefs.
The Chiefs, even though they had to pull the rabbit
out of their hats and had to hold off the Ravens,
the Chiefs looked like the Chiefs. And yeah, they lost
Hollywood Brown for the year because they played him in
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the preseason. The best part of the calculated risk you take,
and it's part of the equity you have as a
head coach who has three Super Bowl wins in the
last five years. So I think there's something to be
said for getting yourself fully ready for the season. But
there is a risk, and I think we do see
some of these guys and you can never really pin
it to any one thing, but there is something to
be said for being ready for full contact regular season football,
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maybe more ready than some players are.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, Mike Florio's with us who's always ready. By the way,
courtesy is simply Seattle. So the Steelers are two and oh,
but they've scored thirty one points. If they keep winning
but the offense keeps struggling, will Mike Tomlin eventually replaced
Justin Fields with Russell and Russell is healthy, or stick
with the guy who just keeps winning no matter what
the offense looks like.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I think the Steelers have the best of both worlds
right now because the competition between Wilson and Fields ended
up being far close to the name one thought it
would be number one, number two. They can basically do
the one hundred percent game where you say, and I
don't think Mike Tumans ever gonna say it. I think
in his own way he's saying it. Russell Wilson will
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play when he's fully and completely healthy, and it's real
he's fully and completely healthy. It doesn't matter. So we
go fullard the Justin Field and Russell Wilson isn't healthy
even if he is, And then when Field struggles and
the team starts losing, Russell Wilson is suddenly healthy, but
he never is fully healthy as long as things are
going well with Field, So you never Benchfields. If Field struggles,
it's just, hey, Russell's ready, so you play your cards
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close to the vest, be very coy about it. And
you never said Fields has become TV one. He's just
ready to go with your QV one if the guy
who's currently playing stumbles, and he never has to endure
the indignity of being best. The only problem is at
some point Russell might activate his personal pr machine and
agitate for a trade. I wouldn't have come here if
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I'd known this is gonna happen. I'm healthy while to
let me play. You know, some of the stuff that
him out after he got benched in Denver last year.
I would say tread lightley with that with Mike Tomlin,
because I don't think you get the desired outcome you're
looking for if you poke Tomlind like that. And I
think what they're also trying to do, like giving him
the game ball after they beat the Broncos, I think
they're trying to find ways to playcad him so he
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doesn't feel compelled to try to force his way out
because they want him there, they need him there. Field
gets injured. He's a veteran backup. He's won a super
Bowl that they've got for one point two million dollars.
They'd be stupid to trade him.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Mike, you had the Seahawks will begin the year twenty
second in your power ratings. They have rocketed all the
way up one spot to twenty one after after going
to and oh, so.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Why are you wholly unimpressed with? You should be ashamed
of yourself?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
First of all. First of all, first of all, anybody
that cares about power rankings is a loser.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Why do you do it? Why do you you're the
one that puts it out.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Because I'm a loser too. We're fascinated by this. It
means nothing, isn't it something? It means nothing. We know
it means nothing, but we get twisted up about it.
And I'm as bad as anyone. But I still got
to pick them one through thirty two. And I look
at and you know, I have a very highly scientific,
analytical approach, and there are many variables that go into it,
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and I feed it into the computer and then I
pulled that out of my ass. So I'm not impressed
with beating the broncos. I'm not impressed with barely beating
the Patriots, who I'm not impressed by even though they
beat the Bengals, you got to beat somebody better than
those two teams to move up, like the Saints going
into Dallas and slacking the Cowboys. The Viking dominating the
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forty nine Ers twenty three to fourteen was misleading. That
would have been twenty seven to seven if Fred Warner
doesn't punch the ball out from Aaron Jones who was
going into score, and then I would assume, I would project.
My computer tells me brock Perty would have screwed up,
and there would have been a short field and it
would have thirty to seven or thirty four to seven
by the time it was all said and done. The
Vikings kicked the crap out of the forty nine Ers.
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Those two teams moved up because they have wins that
are more impressive and the the Orcs can't control their schedule. Hey,
it's better to have easy teams early, build confidence with wins,
and now we'll see what they do. If they keep winning,
they're going to go up. But at some point they
have to beat somebody better than the Broncos in the papers.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
All right, Mike, great stuff, I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
And listen, I don't want to offend anybody who cares
about power rankings. Did I put myself in that same category?
There's something wonderful and mysterious about seeing all the teams
jumbled up into one stack, even if the guy who's
making the list has no idea what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Like me, I'll bet you got a hell of a
lot of hits though off those power rankings on your website, man, because.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Everyone look at the engagement. Oh listen, we got the
we have the full list on our website, and then
we post the tweet with the one through thirty two.
Look at the Hurgan engagement on that, and oh, he's
engagement for me. Yeah, I'm running a business, people, that's
how you run a business. And I don't get into
clickbait and all that misleading crap like those Twitter bought
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accounts that what reality Just to get engagement. This is
legitimate engagement. This is our power rankings. We know people
like them. We give people what they want. People order
it off the menus, so we have to cook it.
That's it, plain and simple, chef, all right, man.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Go cook it up, baby. We'll talking away and see
it pout. Thanks hi to you guys, all right, Mike
Florio with us.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
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there's been this Florida thing right connected with him. And
there's a story on the Uh what's the name of
the website? Saturday down South? Do give heard of them?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I have? Where are they based out of?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
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that is being talked about. One of them is John
Gruden really go to Florida?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Is that not reek of an sec Florida type move?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Hey man, it's been a few years since she was fired,
you know, all that email scandal whatever, blah blah blah.
I mean, if Florida can get John Gruden, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I thought we were going to a different name where
you thought you were going to go? Where do you
think I was going? Urban Meyer? Boy?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That that that did get brought up, and apparently that
ship has already sailed.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Okay, they don't want him back down there.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
And I have always had a soft spot for John Gruden.
I have always loved the guy. I would love to
see him back in football again. I know that he
offended a lot of people, pissed a lot of people off,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I mean one of the things about him is should
have to go to the black athletes and say are
you cool with this? You know, and if they all
say hell yeah, bring him on board. Blah blah blah.
I mean, obviously that would be an issue for a
lot of people, and I totally get why it would
be an issue be an issue. I just think that
the whole Jedfish to Floorida thing probably just get let's
let's move on from that, right.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Oh, I mean unless unless you're gonna tell me was
it Jed Fish is going to go ten and two
this year and lead the Huskies to a big time
bowl game or that or the playoff college football playoff, right,
then it's then it's a talking point anything less than
the college football playoff.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, I don't think Jedfish is attractive enough. Totally agree.
I think two things. I think number one, you're right, uh.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Number two, he should be worried about Northwestern on Saturday,
which he is. And number three, I think Jed Fish
is next move if he wants to have a next move,
if he does feel like he needs a bigger challenge
and he does well at Washington, I think his next
move is in the NFL as either as an offensive
coordinator or head coach. Because he runs everything right now
like it's an NFL system. It's exactly why he came
out with the comments he made on Monday. We have
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a you know, a podcast on Twitter on the kJ
air account with Greg and Mario's take on that. We're
gonna get Petros's take on that coming up at four
o'clock today. And this guy is living and breathing as
if he is in an NFL world every day of
his life. It's from the way that he handles practices,
the way that he handles the walk ons at Washington.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Everything he's all about the NFL. He uses NFL parlance.
He talks about free agency, right, I mean, he talks
to everything that an NFL coach and general manager would
talk about.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's how we talk.
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Speaker 1 (23:18):
Okay, I know this morning, Chuck took the Ravens minus
the point and a half at Dallas, Greg took Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
You dub the.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Over forty two and a half in the Husky Northwestern game.
I'm looking at the Google sheet here, Jackson. I don't
see a pick from Fernst. We made one, obviously, but
that has not been updated yet. Somebody tell Andrews to
get off his ass. He's got one job at this
radio station Alida. Let's take the stupid sheet. Anders Come on,
all right, Jackson, your turn.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Who do you like?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
John Wilner is a very smart man. He understands that
a team that just came off of a trophy winning performance,
a massive emotional win, that is also a school known
for lots of partying, is probably not going to have
as great of a week the following week. They're facing
a team that is three and oh. I am talking
about San Jose State going to the police to face Wazoo.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
John Wilner might be right.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
They might still actually be partying on Wednesday at three
thirty seven pm instead of preparing for a football game.
And the line is eleven and a half, three and oh.
San Jose State team who's done pretty well. So I
like San Jose State and what they're doing. I like
dipping Washington State considering that they are just an emotional
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just after what happened last week.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
You can't blame him for doing so.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
They might win the game, but I don't think they're
gonna win the game by eleven or more so, or
twelve or more so, giving San Jose State plus the
eleven and a half at Wazoo.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
The only thing that concerns me is the game is
in Pullman.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
If it was in if it was at San Jose,
I'd probably feel a lot better about it. I know
it's on Friday, so a short week for both teams.
I just don't know what San Jose State is. I mean,
John knows I'm better than us because he lives down there.
But they've beaten Sacramento State Air Force, in Kansas State.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's what they've done. I mean, buy the SA State.
It's tough. Are you sure about that?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
They are?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
They definitely are.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I could have made that name up and you would
have bought it. I mean it was Zuo's got a
much better resume than they do. They've beaten two Power
five teams or Power four teams. They beat Texas Tech,
and they beat you dub so I would probably stay
away from it.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But hey, I mean go with your gut man.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I mean, here's the thing that Big John Wilner was
zero and two last weekend. So you're buying the dip
for Johnny. You're jumping on the Wilner wagon. What the
hell We're so we're taking the Spartans plus the eleven.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
And a half? Is that right? That's right? Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
San Jose State plus the eleven and a half against
the Cougs on Friday is the pick?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
You like it? In fact, you hate it? Fourtnite it's
fiction to four nine, four to five to one. I
like the pick.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I hope we cover, but I still hope the Cougs
win because if they don't win, it's going to spoil
my chance of hammering Oh Boise State against the cos
I want the Cougs going in four and oh they'll
possible possibly be favored at Boise State.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
If not, they'd be very very short underdogs.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And that is when Boise State brings out the stick
on the blue?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Is that right? Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, here's the thing though. Are we in a position
now where we should be rooting for Washington State? Why
because they just beat us and you want that loss
to look as good as possible be.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Going to the college full of playoffs. That's the only time.
That's the only reason would matter. I mean, I mean,
is it possible they could yeah? I mean, is Washington
State rooting for you, dub the rest of the way?
I mean, look, this is the first time in the
history of the Apple Cup where there's nine games left
to go. We're not usually in this position of giving
a damn what the Cougars do after the Apple Cup
because the season's old.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That's right now, It's not. That's true.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You don't think the Cougs are rooting for you to
have to do well the rest of the way. They
want that win to look as good as possible. They
need that win, They need that wind to look good
more than we need the loss to look good because
they've got an easier road.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
To the playoff. But you know, Cougar fans will not subscribe.
So I don't know. I don't know Cougar fans would.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Not root for the Huskies. I'm not sure the game
even if it would help. It's it's totally different now
than it's ever been. It's one hundred years of history
down the toilet. Now you've got nine games left to go.
I mean, I just wonder if any Cougar fans are saying, look,
if it helps us get to the playoffs, then go
for it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Four one, four or five one. I want to hear
from Cougar fans.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Will you actually root for the Huskies because then it
would be a better.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Win in your chances.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I think some college FOOTBA playoff, which I agree with Wilner,
I don't think there is any way the college football
playoffs invite a pack two program.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, unless they're twelve and agreed.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But that's the whole point is that people think they
might have a shout to go twelve and I with
their schedule, their schedule outside of Boise State and friends.
Note doesn't look that hard. Look, I'm not saying that
every Cougar fan is rooting for you, Dub. But if
the previous answer was zero, that we're rooting for you, Dub,
I guarantee it's more than zero. Now guarantee should because
there's a reason for them to root for Washington. All right,
San Jose State at the points you like, in fact
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Speaker 2 (28:26):
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I like it. Fun with Audio slash. Hey did you
hear that? Here we go? Hey Dick, did you happen
to hear that? What's that? Dick? We starred?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
In college football, at a press conference yesterday, Marshall football
coach Charles Huff attempted to lure Ohio State players to
transfer to Marshall with a very enticing offer. All you
can eat free biscuits from their tutors, Biscuit World.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Restaurant.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
I feel good about the track we're on. Trust me,
I know where we are, but I feel good about
the track we're on, and I feel good about the players.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
We have.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Love to have some of those guys from Ohio State too,
So if they want to transfer on down, We've got
a tutor. Yeah, Tutor's biscuit Nil all you can eat.
So if any of those guys that run really really
fast at Ohio State like Tutor's biscuits, I promise you
all you can eat all day if you transfer here. So,
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but yeah, I don't know how to follow that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I mean it sounds like total, total tampering. But does
anybody really care?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I mean, come on, like, please tell me Ryan Day's
not gonna throw a fit about this at Ohio State. Like,
so what if a guy's gonna leave and go play
somewhere else, you know, help ab out the little guy
at Marshall right, let him have a guy. By the way,
the key to a good biscuit, the entire thing has
to be fluffy, all of it. Yes, sometimes you put
biscuits in the oven and the top will burn a
little bit more a hard top if you will, will
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you like a little bit of I like the whole
thing fluffy, but I don't want.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It won't fall apart.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It won't fall apart as long as it's of the
same consistency. Well, I promise you, Dick, it will not
fall apart. Sometimes the top gets a little bit too
golden brown for my liking. But a biscuit with butter
and honey fluffy the whole way through. Man smothered my
whole body, and that.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
My raspberry jam guy over the honey, I got it.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I got elephant ear or scone at the scall. Really, see,
I'm an elephant ear guy. You know why because I
can walk into any grocery store and buy the Fisher
scone mix.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
True, but it's a pain in the book.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
What grocery store am I buying into buying walking in
to buy an elephantar?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It's fair.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
See, I went into a store you get elephant ears from.
I bought a box of Fisher scone mix.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I was like, Oh, this would be cool. Let's make
this at home. It's been sitting in my cupboard for
two years. Okay, you know what.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You you still have a better shot of making Fisher
scones at home then you do elephantar because I took
it out. I will never ever make an elephantear.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I ever. I looked at the instructions to make it.
I was like, this is too much work. I really
back in that. I'll come over and make it for it.
All right? All right, dick, did you happen to hear
that day? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Out of press conference in Colorado yesterday, Buffalo head coach
Dion Sanders tried to call out team reporters for being
envious and jealous of Colorado players because the players make
more money than they do.
Speaker 9 (31:14):
Landscape has changed in football. Once upon a time, you
guys never attack college players. Now they're making more money
than y'all, and some of y'all are envious and jealous
about that, so you're on the attack. It was hands
off a college player because he's an amateur. You remember
remember that, guys, now his hands on, go at him
any kind of way.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You won't.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
They're making more money than me, and I'm mad about it.
When you attack them, attack them, attack them. These guys
are sensitive. They've never been attacking. They hadn't gone through
what a grown man, what I've been going through with
y'all for years, they haven't done that, So it is
what it is. I know you're gonna do your job
and what you must do, but your job does not
say and attack the personal stuff. Leave it to be personal.
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Because we started flipping the script on y'all, you wouldn't
like it. Hecky easy, thank you Lord for stopping me
to day who that was almost a.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Good that.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
He's saying, flip the script on media and criticize media
like people have been doing for decades.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
What's you talking about? You mean, criticized players like Deion
Sanders does on social media? What's he talking about? So
here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
There's this new thing now where a person can talk
slowly and concisely and clearly.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And if I talk like this, anything I say is true. Yeah,
that's never never loses his cool now, he really does.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
He's very believable because of his presentation, but he's also
full of crap.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Okay, I want to see the long list that he's
talking about of media members killing college athletes.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
And if you're talking about media people being more apt
to criticize a college football player because they're making money,
they're professional athletes. Now, okay, I think it is fairer
today to criticize them as athletes, of course, because they
are professionals, but the idea that, like people in media,
and again I'd like to know who he's talking about,
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are going not of their way to say, Okay, give
me a list of players, give me the list of
guys that make more money than I do, and I'm
gonna rip those guys.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's just insane.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I'm okay with the first part of what he says,
but the fact that the whole jealousy thing that all
they're making more money than I am.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I mean, come on, how many of them are making
really good money?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Not a lot, not a lot, very small percentage. All right,
we got time for one more and now we gotta go. Okay,
Petro Spapadakus, who makes way more money than I do,
by the way, I'm gonna rip his ass because of that.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Next r FM
I guess technically the Mariners still have some life. But
even a guy like me, right, even captain is it?
What's fighting positive? Captain Positive?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thank you? And you're what again, I'm Sergeant Doom.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yes, yes, yes, even a guy like me, Captain Positive,
is starting to kind of run out of a lot
of steels. What about that some bump yesterday? It's slowing down?
You're slowing down. Yesterday was a bump, bump, bump.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I would say this like, it's like ten beats a minute.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I mean, that's what we're gonna get a figures this
game tonight. I think, Well, here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Like, you spend an entire week playing good baseball and
raising your playoff odds from like seven percent to fifteen percent,
and then you have one bad night where you have
a bad night and the Tigers in Minnesota have good
nights and you go right back to where you start.
It's like pushing the stone up the hill for a week.
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You have one bad night, and that's the situation you've
put yourself in. You'll put yourself so far behind the
eight ball that one bad night just crushes your odds.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, well I'll tell you what, man, it's a big
one tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I mean, it's kind of must win territory, and I
wonder how Danny Wilson will manage this thing?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Is ben at the ballpark? Jackson? Is that right? Mike there?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So we're gonna hear from Dan Wilson a little bit
later on the show. We haven't heard much from him lately. Uh,
so we'll get him on and just get his thoughts
on on tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But I was, I was kind of interested.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
We got a few minutes from before Mike Florio jumps
on the air with us at three ten.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
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Mike Florio conversation. But you mentioned there in the break
that Sean Alexander is up for the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yes? Is that right? Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
What when you hear Sean Alexander and Pro Football Hall
of Fame, what is your just gut initial reaction to that?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
How I mean, my initial gut reaction is when I
look at the body of work and the length of
time he was dominant. I lean know, but one hundred touchdowns,
that's Hall of Fame, period, because I believe everybody else
with one hundred touchdowns is in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's accurate, that's completely correct. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
There are only seven players and they excuse me, nine
players in the history of the NFL that have one
hundred rushing touchdowns. Derek Henry's gonna get there eventually. He's
got ninety two when he's eleventh overall, so there's gonna
be ten when it's all said and done. But after
Derrick Henry, as far as active guys go, the next
closest is Ezekiel Elliott. He's never getting there. He's thirty away.
He's got seventy two. So there's gonna be ten guys
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after Derek Henry gets this done. I mean, he might
do it this year.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
He might do it. I have no idea how much
longer he's gonna play. He's on my fantasy, so I
hope he does it this year.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Doesn't happen this year, it's gonna he needs eight more,
all right, So he's got a really really good shot
to be the tenth guy to get one hundred touchdowns.
And every everybody on the top fifteen list in the
NFL that has ninety touchdowns or more, every single one
of them is in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Now you can argue that EMMITTT.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Smith, Ladinian, Tomlinson, Marcus all and blah blah blah may
have more rushing yards than Sean Alexander, and I'm totally
fine with that. Like LT is seventh, Curtis Martin is
right behind Sean, he's sixth overall. Adrian Peterson is right there,
but he's number five in rushing. Sean is thirty seventh
in the NFL and rushing yards total. I think what
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dings him as two things. Number one, the fact that
he played behind Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson, and then
number two of the fact that he got banged up
and was never able to, you know, kind of add
to that rushing total. So if Sean Alexander had just
kind of found a way, Dick to kind of just
hang on and rack up, like you know, an extra
thousand yards over garbage time over the course of his career.
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He's top thirty in the NFL in rushing yards and
he's top ten in touchdown He probably isn't a freak
an MVP, for God's sakes, only offensive MVP the Hawks
have ever had, So I I don't know if he
is a Hall of Famer or not. I am absolutely
convinced though, that the conversation needs to be had about
whether or not Sean Alexander belongs to the Hall of Fame.
For sure, absolutely, And when you look at that, I
would not just dismiss it. I wouldn't ding him for
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Steve Hutchinson. If you're gonna ding him for Steve Hutchinson
and Walter Jones and Emmitt Smith needs to be dinged
because Emitt Smith may have played in front of the
best offensive line in a generation right in the early
nineties with three and.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
They had five studs. We only had two studs. So
I don't think you can dig ding Sean for hutch Well.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
We should ask Florio when he comes on about kind
of the national view of of Sean. But I guess
if you're gonna dig him like you said, for playing
behind Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson, then you're basically telling
me that anybody who played behind that offensive line was
going to get no credit whatsoever. Like, there's nobody that
could have played behind that offensive line that would have
been given any credit. The guy had five consecutive thousand
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Speaker 2 (05:47):
Our friend, Michael Florio, how are you, man, gentlemen? Hello man, uh,
we were just talking about this. Hello, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
We were just talking about this before you came on.
Shawn Alexander. When I say the name Sean Alexander, do
you think Pro Football Hall of Fame?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I don't know. Hey, let me give you full disclosure.
I really don't care about the Hall of Fame anymore.
It's listen, listen, here's why. Here's why. The couple of reasons.
First of all, football is a team sport. At least
that's what they tell me. It's the ultimate team sport.
So why do we get twisted up over who gets
a bus in a museum in Canton? That's relevant for
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one weekend out of a year, and it's a business,
and part of the goal of the business is to
make that weekend as profitable as possible for the hotels
and restaurants in Canton. I've just become very jaded about it.
They change the rules all the time. We've talked about
that before as it relates to Mike Holmgren. They do
what they want to do. Periodically, they decide we're going
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to open the floodgates on whoever we missed in the
past that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
We want to get in now.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I just don't have a whole lot of significance that
I attached to it, and I go back to something
beyond Sanders said a couple of years ago that I
agree with. He said many things recently that I don't
agree with. In his capacity it's head coach of Colorado.
I agree that the bar is too low. Generally, there
are people in the Hall of Fame who shouldn't be
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the Only people who should get into the Hall of
Fame are the people who you don't even have to
argue that they should be Hall of famers. So, Seawn Alexander,
the mere fact that we would have to debate it
under the standard I'd like to see for the Pro
Football Hall of Fame, the answer would be no, because
it's only the Tom Brady's, it's only the clear cuts
upper room. And we've argued there should be an upper room,
and we've tried to identify who would be in the
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upper room, the best of the best, the ones that
there's no question that they should be in Canton. So
there's my short answer, not that short, to a question
that is far simpler in my mind than it is
for many others.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Mike, the number one pick in the draft less than
eighteen months ago, has now been benched. How much of
the onus is on Bryce Young? How much is on
the Panthers organization? And how serious are you when you said,
and the next class a quarterback should refuse to play
for that franchise.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I'm entirely serious because this is something that is overdue.
And maybe it's like football's version of Haley's comment, it
comes around to be twenty one years because it happened
in nineteen eighty three, it happened in two thousand and four.
Maybe it'll happen in twenty twenty five where someone one
or more players who are drafted by teams that have
proven to be dysfunctional in a variety of ways, and
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it starts with ownership and trickles down. I'm not going
to go there and ruin my career. I'm not going
to go there and have for the early stages of
my time in the NFL the bust label.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Hung upon me.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Because even if it is a bunch of different factors,
the player is the one who wears that scarlet letter.
So we look at Bryce Young and we stay bust,
and we won't know any differently until he gets a
chance to start for someone else, and we have no
idea if he's ever going to get that chance for
when it will be. Look at Geno Smith, ruined by
the Jets. How long did it take him to get
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his second chance and how different things could have gone
for him as he had landed in a place that
wasn't dysfunctional when he was drafted all those years ago.
Same thing for Sam Donald. Look at what he's doing
in Minnesota now after being ruined by the Jet coincidentally.
So I think there's enough signs, circumstantial evidence in my
own experience and my own gut feeling as to how
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things work in the NFL. David Tepper a guy who
has been very successful his entire life, and he thinks
if he wants it hard enough, and if he follows
his heart and works really hard, he can bend things
in his favor. He wanted get Bryce Young, and he
was wrong, and now as quickly as he fell in
love with him, he's fallen out of.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Love with him.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
And hopefully he gets the fair shots somewhere else. Hopefully
he gets a chance to develop with a good supporting cast,
stable coaching, and an owner who doesn't mess everything up.
So yeah, I think it would be great now that
these guys have nil mard, it would be great if
one or more of them would say I am determining
where I'm gonna go, or more accurately, I'm gonna determine
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where I'm not gonna go, and I'll sit out for
a year if you draft me Carolina Panthers, I'll sit
out a year, I'll live off my nail money, and
I'll re end of the draft next year.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, it's puffed the brakes on Darnold though a little bit.
He's played two games for got SIGs.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
No I could still. I mean, we don't talk the
breaks on Geno.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
He's point starting for two and a half years now.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
My point is that first team that a team plays for,
that a player plays for, has a huge impact on
how he's perceived. I go back to nineteen ninety nine.
If Donough McNabb had been drafted by the Bengals and
Achilly Smith had landed with the Eagles, who's to say
Smith wouldn't have been the fringe Hall of Famer and
McNabb wouldn't have watched out of the NFL with a
three and fourteen record.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, no, that's fair to a tongueo by low and
not gonna play in the game with the Seahawks on Sunday.
How much talk do you really think there is behind
the scenes about him calling it quits.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Well, look, any of these teams that know what they're
doing always have strategic conversations. I don't know about whether
or not he's gonna call it quits, and I have
no opinion in that regard. It's up to the doctors preliminarily,
because first he has to be cleared to play again,
and then it's up to him does he want to
play again. There is one hundred and sixty two million
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dollars hanging in the balance, because if he's never cleared,
that's what he gets from the Dolphins. If he is
cleared and he doesn't play, that's what he loses, including
forfeiting much of his forty two million dollars signing bonus
from his contract from just several weeks ago. I think
where this is heading, and I'm trying to read the
Tea leaves here and come up with a plausible outcome
Step one. I think what's going to happen is he's
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not going to play again this year, because how do
you make a good decision about your future when you
are feeling that urgency of I need to get back
and play. I need to get back and play. And
I think that shutting him down for the season. And
I don't know if the Dolphins will announce he's not
coming back. I think he just stays on IR and
never comes off of IR. But I don't think he
can play again this year because I think he needs
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to get distanced from this season to make a good decision. Secondly,
and this is more speculation wrapped around common sense and
an understanding of how things can work. I think what
we may see after this year is a negotiated compromise
between the Dolphins and Tua where he walks away and
(12:18):
he gets let's say, half of the money that he's
due fully guaranteed under and guaranteed for injury under his contract,
that the Dolphins don't eat at all. He doesn't lose
it all, and there's a fair compromise and he moves on,
and I think the league probably wants that because at
this point, anytime he's on the field, we're all going
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to be on the edge of our seats about that
next kit he take. I'm surprised we weren't there all
of last season. I think we kind of were. But
if he played and played and played that war off.
I think if he ever comes back again, we're going
to constantly be watching and waiting for the next concussion
and is that the last concussion? And I just think
the game itself, the league, I think the best interest
of everyone would probably be to find wait for him
(13:00):
to move on. But the end of the day, if
he's cleared and if he wants to play, he has
every right to play.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Might this rash of injuries that we're seeing, particularly the
soft tissue injuries Isaiah Pacheco notwithstanding, I mean, is this
related to the lack of work these players are getting
in the preseason.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
I think if we went back in track the early
season injuries every year, we would see the same numbers.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
The lack of work in the preseason and training camp
has gone back really twenty eleven, when they changed the
CBA to have less workout time in the offseason, less
intense training camp. Certain old school coaches would say, you
have less of a callous on your body getting ready
for the season. But now they're in the fourth year
of seventeen regular season games in three preseason games, it's
(13:43):
fair to wonder the teams that aren't playing their starters,
are they not as ready to go as the teams
that do play their starters in the preseason, like the Chiefs.
The Chiefs, even though they had to pull the rabbit
out of their hats and had to hold off the Ravens,
the Chiefs looked like the Chiefs. And yeah, they lost
Hollywood Brown for the year because they played him in
(14:04):
the preseason. The best part of the calculated risk you take,
and it's part of the equity you have as a
head coach who has three Super Bowl wins in the
last five years. So I think there's something to be
said for getting yourself fully ready for the season. But
there is a risk, and I think we do see
some of these guys and you can never really pin
it to any one thing, but there is something to
be said for being ready for full contact regular season football,
(14:28):
maybe more ready than some players are.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, Mike Florio's with us who's always ready. By the way,
courtesy is simply Seattle. So the Steelers are two and oh,
but they've scored thirty one points. If they keep winning
but the offense keeps struggling, will Mike Tomlin eventually replaced
Justin Fields with Russell and Russell is healthy, or stick
with the guy who just keeps winning no matter what
the offense looks like.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I think the Steelers have the best of both worlds
right now because the competition between Wilson and Fields ended
up being far close to the name one thought it
would be number one, number two. They can basically do
the one hundred percent game where you say, and I
don't think Mike Tumans ever gonna say it. I think
in his own way he's saying it. Russell Wilson will
(15:12):
play when he's fully and completely healthy, and it's real
he's fully and completely healthy. It doesn't matter. So we
go fullard the Justin Field and Russell Wilson isn't healthy
even if he is, And then when Field struggles and
the team starts losing, Russell Wilson is suddenly healthy, but
he never is fully healthy as long as things are
going well with Field, So you never Benchfields. If Field struggles,
it's just, hey, Russell's ready, so you play your cards
(15:35):
close to the vest, be very coy about it. And
you never said Fields has become TV one. He's just
ready to go with your QV one if the guy
who's currently playing stumbles, and he never has to endure
the indignity of being best. The only problem is at
some point Russell might activate his personal pr machine and
agitate for a trade. I wouldn't have come here if
(15:56):
I'd known this is gonna happen. I'm healthy while to
let me play. You know, some of the stuff that
him out after he got benched in Denver last year.
I would say tread lightley with that with Mike Tomlin,
because I don't think you get the desired outcome you're
looking for if you poke Tomlind like that. And I
think what they're also trying to do, like giving him
the game ball after they beat the Broncos, I think
they're trying to find ways to playcad him so he
(16:17):
doesn't feel compelled to try to force his way out
because they want him there, they need him there. Field
gets injured. He's a veteran backup. He's won a super
Bowl that they've got for one point two million dollars.
They'd be stupid to trade him.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Mike, you had the Seahawks will begin the year twenty
second in your power ratings. They have rocketed all the
way up one spot to twenty one after after going
to and oh, so.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Why are you wholly unimpressed with? You should be ashamed
of yourself?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
First of all. First of all, first of all, anybody
that cares about power rankings is a loser.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Why do you do it? Why do you you're the
one that puts it out.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Because I'm a loser too. We're fascinated by this. It
means nothing, isn't it something? It means nothing. We know
it means nothing, but we get twisted up about it.
And I'm as bad as anyone. But I still got
to pick them one through thirty two. And I look
at and you know, I have a very highly scientific,
analytical approach, and there are many variables that go into it,
(17:17):
and I feed it into the computer and then I
pulled that out of my ass. So I'm not impressed
with beating the broncos. I'm not impressed with barely beating
the Patriots, who I'm not impressed by even though they
beat the Bengals, you got to beat somebody better than
those two teams to move up, like the Saints going
into Dallas and slacking the Cowboys. The Viking dominating the
(17:37):
forty nine Ers twenty three to fourteen was misleading. That
would have been twenty seven to seven if Fred Warner
doesn't punch the ball out from Aaron Jones who was
going into score, and then I would assume, I would project.
My computer tells me brock Perty would have screwed up,
and there would have been a short field and it
would have thirty to seven or thirty four to seven
by the time it was all said and done. The
Vikings kicked the crap out of the forty nine Ers.
(17:58):
Those two teams moved up because they have wins that
are more impressive and the the Orcs can't control their schedule. Hey,
it's better to have easy teams early, build confidence with wins,
and now we'll see what they do. If they keep winning,
they're going to go up. But at some point they
have to beat somebody better than the Broncos in the papers.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
All right, Mike, great stuff, I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
And listen, I don't want to offend anybody who cares
about power rankings. Did I put myself in that same category?
There's something wonderful and mysterious about seeing all the teams
jumbled up into one stack, even if the guy who's
making the list has no idea what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Like me, I'll bet you got a hell of a
lot of hits though off those power rankings on your website, man, because.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Everyone look at the engagement. Oh listen, we got the
we have the full list on our website, and then
we post the tweet with the one through thirty two.
Look at the Hurgan engagement on that, and oh, he's
engagement for me. Yeah, I'm running a business, people, that's
how you run a business. And I don't get into
clickbait and all that misleading crap like those Twitter bought
(18:59):
accounts that what reality Just to get engagement. This is
legitimate engagement. This is our power rankings. We know people
like them. We give people what they want. People order
it off the menus, so we have to cook it.
That's it, plain and simple, chef, all right, man.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Go cook it up, baby. We'll talking away and see
it pout. Thanks hi to you guys, all right, Mike
Florio with us.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
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Speaker 6 (19:29):
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Speaker 1 (19:44):
First Factor Fiction coming up in a matter of minutes.
It's Wednesday, so it's Jackson Day a right coming up
here in a few minutes, all courtesy of the Emerald
Queen Casino. You know that ever since jet Fish got hired,
there's been this Florida thing right connected with him. And
there's a story on the Uh what's the name of
the website? Saturday down South? Do give heard of them?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I have? Where are they based out of?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I think got Florida sec country.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I know that, Uh says Florida's boosters have already secured
the money to pay Billion Napier's twenty seven million dollar
buyout Number one. Should Florida pull the plug on Billy Napier,
Florida's boosters and high level donors are prepared to pursue
a proven Power Conference head coach. According to two high
level donors who spoke to Saturday down South, the name
(20:34):
that is being talked about. One of them is John
Gruden really go to Florida?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Is that not reek of an sec Florida type move?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Hey man, it's been a few years since she was fired,
you know, all that email scandal whatever, blah blah blah.
I mean, if Florida can get John Gruden, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I thought we were going to a different name where
you thought you were going to go? Where do you
think I was going? Urban Meyer? Boy?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That that that did get brought up, and apparently that
ship has already sailed.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Okay, they don't want him back down there.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
And I have always had a soft spot for John Gruden.
I have always loved the guy. I would love to
see him back in football again. I know that he
offended a lot of people, pissed a lot of people off,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I mean one of the things about him is should
have to go to the black athletes and say are
you cool with this? You know, and if they all
say hell yeah, bring him on board. Blah blah blah.
I mean, obviously that would be an issue for a
lot of people, and I totally get why it would
be an issue be an issue. I just think that
the whole Jedfish to Floorida thing probably just get let's
let's move on from that, right.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Oh, I mean unless unless you're gonna tell me was
it Jed Fish is going to go ten and two
this year and lead the Huskies to a big time
bowl game or that or the playoff college football playoff, right,
then it's then it's a talking point anything less than
the college football playoff.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, I don't think Jedfish is attractive enough. Totally agree.
I think two things. I think number one, you're right, uh.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Number two, he should be worried about Northwestern on Saturday,
which he is. And number three, I think Jed Fish
is next move if he wants to have a next move,
if he does feel like he needs a bigger challenge
and he does well at Washington, I think his next
move is in the NFL as either as an offensive
coordinator or head coach. Because he runs everything right now
like it's an NFL system. It's exactly why he came
out with the comments he made on Monday. We have
(22:18):
a you know, a podcast on Twitter on the kJ
air account with Greg and Mario's take on that. We're
gonna get Petros's take on that coming up at four
o'clock today. And this guy is living and breathing as
if he is in an NFL world every day of
his life. It's from the way that he handles practices,
the way that he handles the walk ons at Washington.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Everything he's all about the NFL. He uses NFL parlance.
He talks about free agency, right, I mean, he talks
to everything that an NFL coach and general manager would
talk about.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's how we talk.
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Speaker 1 (23:18):
Okay, I know this morning, Chuck took the Ravens minus
the point and a half at Dallas, Greg took Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
You dub the.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Over forty two and a half in the Husky Northwestern game.
I'm looking at the Google sheet here, Jackson. I don't
see a pick from Fernst. We made one, obviously, but
that has not been updated yet. Somebody tell Andrews to
get off his ass. He's got one job at this
radio station Alida. Let's take the stupid sheet. Anders Come on,
all right, Jackson, your turn.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Who do you like?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
John Wilner is a very smart man. He understands that
a team that just came off of a trophy winning performance,
a massive emotional win, that is also a school known
for lots of partying, is probably not going to have
as great of a week the following week. They're facing
a team that is three and oh. I am talking
about San Jose State going to the police to face Wazoo.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
John Wilner might be right.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
They might still actually be partying on Wednesday at three
thirty seven pm instead of preparing for a football game.
And the line is eleven and a half, three and oh.
San Jose State team who's done pretty well. So I
like San Jose State and what they're doing. I like
dipping Washington State considering that they are just an emotional
(24:34):
just after what happened last week.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
You can't blame him for doing so.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
They might win the game, but I don't think they're
gonna win the game by eleven or more so, or
twelve or more so, giving San Jose State plus the
eleven and a half at Wazoo.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
The only thing that concerns me is the game is
in Pullman.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
If it was in if it was at San Jose,
I'd probably feel a lot better about it. I know
it's on Friday, so a short week for both teams.
I just don't know what San Jose State is. I mean,
John knows I'm better than us because he lives down there.
But they've beaten Sacramento State Air Force, in Kansas State.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's what they've done. I mean, buy the SA State.
It's tough. Are you sure about that?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
They are?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
They definitely are.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I could have made that name up and you would
have bought it. I mean it was Zuo's got a
much better resume than they do. They've beaten two Power
five teams or Power four teams. They beat Texas Tech,
and they beat you dub so I would probably stay
away from it.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But hey, I mean go with your gut man.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I mean, here's the thing that Big John Wilner was
zero and two last weekend. So you're buying the dip
for Johnny. You're jumping on the Wilner wagon. What the
hell We're so we're taking the Spartans plus the eleven.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
And a half? Is that right? That's right? Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
San Jose State plus the eleven and a half against
the Cougs on Friday is the pick?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
You like it? In fact, you hate it? Fourtnite it's
fiction to four nine, four to five to one. I
like the pick.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I hope we cover, but I still hope the Cougs
win because if they don't win, it's going to spoil
my chance of hammering Oh Boise State against the cos
I want the Cougs going in four and oh they'll
possible possibly be favored at Boise State.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
If not, they'd be very very short underdogs.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And that is when Boise State brings out the stick
on the blue?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Is that right? Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, here's the thing though. Are we in a position
now where we should be rooting for Washington State? Why
because they just beat us and you want that loss
to look as good as possible be.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Going to the college full of playoffs. That's the only time.
That's the only reason would matter. I mean, I mean,
is it possible they could yeah? I mean, is Washington
State rooting for you, dub the rest of the way?
I mean, look, this is the first time in the
history of the Apple Cup where there's nine games left
to go. We're not usually in this position of giving
a damn what the Cougars do after the Apple Cup
because the season's old.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That's right now, It's not. That's true.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You don't think the Cougs are rooting for you to
have to do well the rest of the way. They
want that win to look as good as possible. They
need that win, They need that wind to look good
more than we need the loss to look good because
they've got an easier road.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
To the playoff. But you know, Cougar fans will not subscribe.
So I don't know. I don't know Cougar fans would.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Not root for the Huskies. I'm not sure the game
even if it would help. It's it's totally different now
than it's ever been. It's one hundred years of history
down the toilet. Now you've got nine games left to go.
I mean, I just wonder if any Cougar fans are saying, look,
if it helps us get to the playoffs, then go
for it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Four one, four or five one. I want to hear
from Cougar fans.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Will you actually root for the Huskies because then it
would be a better.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Win in your chances.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I think some college FOOTBA playoff, which I agree with Wilner,
I don't think there is any way the college football
playoffs invite a pack two program.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, unless they're twelve and agreed.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But that's the whole point is that people think they
might have a shout to go twelve and I with
their schedule, their schedule outside of Boise State and friends.
Note doesn't look that hard. Look, I'm not saying that
every Cougar fan is rooting for you, Dub. But if
the previous answer was zero, that we're rooting for you, Dub,
I guarantee it's more than zero. Now guarantee should because
there's a reason for them to root for Washington. All right,
San Jose State at the points you like, in fact
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Speaker 2 (28:26):
I don't know what you guys think, but I don't care.
I like it. Fun with Audio slash. Hey did you
hear that? Here we go? Hey Dick, did you happen
to hear that? What's that? Dick? We starred?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
In college football, at a press conference yesterday, Marshall football
coach Charles Huff attempted to lure Ohio State players to
transfer to Marshall with a very enticing offer. All you
can eat free biscuits from their tutors, Biscuit World.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Restaurant.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
I feel good about the track we're on. Trust me,
I know where we are, but I feel good about
the track we're on, and I feel good about the players.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
We have.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Love to have some of those guys from Ohio State too,
So if they want to transfer on down, We've got
a tutor. Yeah, Tutor's biscuit Nil all you can eat.
So if any of those guys that run really really
fast at Ohio State like Tutor's biscuits, I promise you
all you can eat all day if you transfer here. So,
(29:22):
but yeah, I don't know how to follow that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I mean it sounds like total, total tampering. But does
anybody really care?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I mean, come on, like, please tell me Ryan Day's
not gonna throw a fit about this at Ohio State. Like,
so what if a guy's gonna leave and go play
somewhere else, you know, help ab out the little guy
at Marshall right, let him have a guy. By the way,
the key to a good biscuit, the entire thing has
to be fluffy, all of it. Yes, sometimes you put
biscuits in the oven and the top will burn a
little bit more a hard top if you will, will
(29:52):
you like a little bit of I like the whole
thing fluffy, but I don't want.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It won't fall apart.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It won't fall apart as long as it's of the
same consistency. Well, I promise you, Dick, it will not
fall apart. Sometimes the top gets a little bit too
golden brown for my liking. But a biscuit with butter
and honey fluffy the whole way through. Man smothered my
whole body, and that.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
My raspberry jam guy over the honey, I got it.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I got elephant ear or scone at the scall. Really, see,
I'm an elephant ear guy. You know why because I
can walk into any grocery store and buy the Fisher
scone mix.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
True, but it's a pain in the book.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
What grocery store am I buying into buying walking in
to buy an elephantar?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It's fair.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
See, I went into a store you get elephant ears from.
I bought a box of Fisher scone mix.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I was like, Oh, this would be cool. Let's make
this at home. It's been sitting in my cupboard for
two years. Okay, you know what.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You you still have a better shot of making Fisher
scones at home then you do elephantar because I took
it out. I will never ever make an elephantear.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I ever. I looked at the instructions to make it.
I was like, this is too much work. I really
back in that. I'll come over and make it for it.
All right? All right, dick, did you happen to hear
that day? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Out of press conference in Colorado yesterday, Buffalo head coach
Dion Sanders tried to call out team reporters for being
envious and jealous of Colorado players because the players make
more money than they do.
Speaker 9 (31:14):
Landscape has changed in football. Once upon a time, you
guys never attack college players. Now they're making more money
than y'all, and some of y'all are envious and jealous
about that, so you're on the attack. It was hands
off a college player because he's an amateur. You remember
remember that, guys, now his hands on, go at him
any kind of way.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You won't.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
They're making more money than me, and I'm mad about it.
When you attack them, attack them, attack them. These guys
are sensitive. They've never been attacking. They hadn't gone through
what a grown man, what I've been going through with
y'all for years, they haven't done that, So it is
what it is. I know you're gonna do your job
and what you must do, but your job does not
say and attack the personal stuff. Leave it to be personal.
(31:52):
Because we started flipping the script on y'all, you wouldn't
like it. Hecky easy, thank you Lord for stopping me
to day who that was almost a.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Good that.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
He's saying, flip the script on media and criticize media
like people have been doing for decades.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
What's you talking about? You mean, criticized players like Deion
Sanders does on social media? What's he talking about? So
here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
There's this new thing now where a person can talk
slowly and concisely and clearly.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And if I talk like this, anything I say is true. Yeah,
that's never never loses his cool now, he really does.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
He's very believable because of his presentation, but he's also
full of crap.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Okay, I want to see the long list that he's
talking about of media members killing college athletes.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
And if you're talking about media people being more apt
to criticize a college football player because they're making money,
they're professional athletes. Now, okay, I think it is fairer
today to criticize them as athletes, of course, because they
are professionals, but the idea that, like people in media,
and again I'd like to know who he's talking about,
(32:59):
are going not of their way to say, Okay, give
me a list of players, give me the list of
guys that make more money than I do, and I'm
gonna rip those guys.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's just insane.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I'm okay with the first part of what he says,
but the fact that the whole jealousy thing that all
they're making more money than I am.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I mean, come on, how many of them are making
really good money?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Not a lot, not a lot, very small percentage. All right,
we got time for one more and now we gotta go. Okay,
Petro Spapadakus, who makes way more money than I do,
by the way, I'm gonna rip his ass because of that.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
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If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people.