September 19, 2024 • 35 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain react to Julio Rodriguez’s huge base running mistake last night, then talk to Rick Neuheisel about the Apple Cup ending, give their Thursday Fact or Fiction pick, then discuss Julio and the Mariners with Bret Boone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go Mike Holmgren show, He'll be here at
four o'clock today talking to NFL. We got Brett Boone,
we got Rick new Heisler. You know new Heiseal had
another miss by the way in his talk of time
Pick of the week, So I don't know what more
to say. I mean, you got to play the dip, dude,
he was given twenty three and a half to Georgia
against Kentucky. He's zero to four on the year. I mean,
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we don't see that moving on much longer. So don't
you want to jump on that today at three twenty
when Rick pops on the air with us and play
the dip?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, didn't he start really cold last year and then
caught fire at the end of the season and almost
finished five hundred or maybe even got the five hundred two.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I believe he did.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I don't know if I have his picks from last year.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
So I want to say he started super cold and rallied.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yeah he won. He was one and two on the
year to start, and then he won three in a row.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, not that not too bad. Now, this
is this is not very good. So we're gonna see
what Rick likes s. Curtesy had taco time at three
twenty Brett boone who look, I gotta be honest with you.
I don't know how much of this phone call he'll reference,
but we talked at like six forty five this morning.
I think Booneie was up doing like the nine minute
ab thing, and you know, I was just having my coffee,
sitting in bed like a slug like I always do.
(01:07):
And he is he is I mean between us, dude,
like the three of us here. Yeah, he is mother
f and everybody after last.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Night's saw the tweet. He's not happy, dude.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
He was not happy.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
He's a Julio this, you know, freaking Victor Robles that
and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
It was horrible.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So we're gonna talk to Boonie at three forty five
to day, and I just don't know where to start
with this thing. I mean, obviously the m's are. You know,
they got the Yankees today down there at t Mobile Park.
But I think what happened last night is still very
much at top of mine. I went on the air
Dick with chuckum Buck and Ashley at seven o'clock today
to talk Huskies, and we.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Didn't mention one thing about the Huskies.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It was twenty minutes of NonStop Mariner bashing, and I
just don't think anything has really changed. I mean, I'm
not going to lose my mind about this because I
did this morning. I'm not gonna lose my mind about
this because I did it a month ago, two weeks ago,
three weeks ago, four weeks ago. The funeral we had, yeah,
going after service, you know, going after Podo and his legacy,
going after John Stanton. It's just just more of the same.
And now it's just becoming humiliating, you know, with the
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way these guys are performing. I mean, the idea that,
first of all, we have people in this town that
are defending Julio Rodriguez and that decision last night at
third base.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Look, guys, we all love Julio.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, he's a young guy, he's got a lot of
time left in here, he's got supreme talent, five tool guy,
blah blah blah. But if we can't even be you know, above,
you know, or below criticizing a guy when he deserves criticism.
And I don't even know if that makes any sense,
but you know what I'm trying to say, if we
can't even be honest about this stuff, then.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Like, what's the point? I mean, why don't we all
just wake up and.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Just stick our heads directly up their ass and just
whatever they want us to say is what we'll say.
You know, whatever the you know, propaganda machine spits out
that day, that's what we'll go with. You know, I'm
watching the postgame show last night. Ask me why, I
have no idea. I was just watching it.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Were you hoping that they'd say something critical about the
baseball team?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I was just hoping that I would hear maybe a
little bit of what I was thinking last night, And
it was ten seconds on Julio and three minutes on
how great Bryce Miller was right, Like, come on, guys,
I mean, if you're gonna be in the TV business,
then run the TV network like it's a business.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You buy a TV station, you buy a TV network,
and you want people to watch. You're not getting anyone
to watch if you're gonna keep talking to fans like
they're friggin idiots. And that's what they do on that network,
and it drives me insane.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I'm sorry. I mean, that's gonna piss people off. I
get it.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm sure they're just doing what they're told, but it
makes me nuts to watch this stuff. There is no
baseball player, not one, that will tell you that being
hit with a bat equals a dead ball. Nobody who's
ever played the game will ever ever tell you that
there was nothing about what Julio did last night that's excusable.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Now. Do I want to run the guy out of town?
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Do I want to bench the guy and trade them,
of course not. Do I still love him, of course
I do. But last night was a major mistake by
Julio Rodriguez. What Victor Robolis Dick did two nights ago,
major meet You're a mistake by Victor Roeblitz, This is.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
And then you add the idea he gets beamed by
Luis Gill and then goes out and hugs the guy.
You know how many old school players would throw up
at that after they saw that in the first inning
a couple of nights ago.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So I disagree with you on that one. Believe that.
I think that's a totally different case than the other two.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Dick, Dick, Dick, I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I don't even care, right I mean, if if it
doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother you, it bothers the
piss out of me, and it bothers the crap out
of a lot of people. A lot of people have
taken your side on that thing, and that's totally fine.
I could not care less because every fan has a
right to react any way they damn will.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Want to with this baseball team.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And even if the fans on your side, if there's
one hundred fans and fifty of them aren't bothered by it,
you have created fifty more that are bothered by it.
And that's the problem with this team and this franchise
is that every single day they find a way to
chip away at whatever credibility.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
They have left with the fan base. And it did it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
They did it again last night with Julio. So look,
I mean, here the they are in a horrible spot.
They're basically done with the division. I mean, the Astros
are five games up with ten games left to go.
The M's have to go ten and zero. If they
go five and five to catch him, Twins and Tigers
are now tied. The Mariners basically have to go like
eight and one in their final nine if they win
today to have any shot at a wildcard spot. So look,
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I get it, man, you know it's just more of
the same. And we are literally on the cusp, if
not already there of throwing dirt on the whole on
this twenty twenty four Mariner season and the biggest waste
of pitching in franchise.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So can I ask you real quick what?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, the people that are defending Julio, what are they saying.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
That it's a human reaction when a bat is thrown
at you?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Okay, but a lot of people, good, I'm glad you
said that. I'm God because I'll take off that on
that point.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I went back and watched this numerous times, and I
took a stop watch out. And the reason I took
a stopwatch out is I wanted to see one how
long did Julio continue to walk away from third base
after the bat passed him, because then it's not talking.
You're not in danger anymore if the beats by you.
And secondly, how long did it take for the catcher
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to throw the ball to third base? And the answer
to those questions is exactly three seconds. Jueo Rodriguez after
the bat passed him continued towards the dugout for three
full seconds after the bat passed him, and the bat
was dead in left field before Julio even turned around.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's how long it took.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And it took four seconds for the catcher to actually
throw the ball back to third base. So don't give
me the natural reaction. How many times in our lifetimes
have we seen a third base coach or a third
baseman or a player standing on third base almost get
hit by a bat? It happens numerous times every single
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baseball season. And how many times of our lifetime have
we seen a guy at third get picked off after?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
That happens?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
For me in fifty years, probably forty five years of
watching baseball, that was the first.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, no, I agree, I've never seen it either. I mean,
we've seen bats tossed down the line. I'm gajillion time,
of course, I'm totally with you. Never seen it, So look,
I mean, it's just it's just it's more fuel for
the fire. It's more gas on the flames for fans
that are just completely at their wits end with this franchise.
So we'll see what Booney says at three forty five,
Dick about all that. We just say, we got to
(07:25):
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Speaker 1 (07:57):
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is here. Wants everyone to know he's very much available,
does have his own car, and just moved out of
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I got to meet him.
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Speaker 3 (08:30):
I am well.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
As a matter of fact, I dined at the five
to twenty Bar and Grill the last time I was
in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, why would you not? It's the best place to
be on the question about it?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Yeah, my good buddy John Bench lives literally a stone's
throw from there.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm gonna go bang on his door when I'm all
said and done here. By the way, hey, I was
told last week to not lead with the negatives, So
we'll just do the Taco Time Pick of the week
in fifteen minutes and just shelve that for now. And
let's let's lead with some positives. I mean, I don't
even know if there are positive.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I could not be worse. I could not be worse. Hopefully,
hopefully everybody's faded me till now. And now is the
time to jump on the wagon. Now, okay, jump in
the wagon.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, now's the time to buy the dip is Dick
and I say, it's all good. We have a long season,
But why don't we just start because we haven't had
you on since last week. I know you're wrong with
Chuck and Buck on Tuesday with Ashley, your thoughts on
the on the fourth down play that that that Jedfish
called in the Apple Cup. And also I showed you
the video of Denzel Boston's third down catch and run
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where he could have dove for the pylon, could have
found a way to sneak into the end zone, but instead, uh,
you know, scoots out of bounds.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
What was your take on that on that third and
fourth down play by U dub.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Well, there was no need to go out of bounds
because you weren't trying to save clock. Clock was not
an issue at that time.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
And but I do I do agree if Jed said
that they're teaching not to reach the ball out because
we've all seen that horror of the ball being stripped
as being reached for the pylon and that rolls through
the end zone and becomes a touchback for the opponent.
So I'm sure that was coached. But there was no
reason not to leave your feet and dive for that
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pylon and secure the ball. He had a chance to
do that. As I looked at the film.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Rick, would you ever have a situation where your quarterback
does not have a check to get out of a
play at the line of scrimmage that was called.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
It's unlikely. But again they called time out prior to
the fourth down call, so I'm sure they're looking at
their two point plays? What was the problem two point plays?
As you know, you can pick where the ball's placed.
You can put it on the left hash and put
it in the middle you and put on the right hash.
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That play they ran to the right. I'm guessing because
Will Rogers is right handed and he doesn't have a
lot of option background. I mean, he was in a
Mike Leach offense. We'd have to look at a lot
of film before we an option in Mike Leach's offense,
right So if that, they probably practiced it only to
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his throwing hand, which is the easier end for a
right hand or to pitch with. So they are running
it into the short side of the field. And then
as you watch that play, the tight end reaches. The
defender outside the tight end has to be the pitch
man that they're blocking. It is that they're running zone,
which means that the quarterback should have put his foot
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in the ground and cut back behind the basically the
defensive tackle. But that wasn't the case. They were trying
to get to the edge and there was no edge
and he ran out of room, and so you've got
a dead play.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Well, the good news is there's nine games left to
go to you know, get over it. I mean typically
any other given year would be done and you'd be
just banging your head against the wall thinking about this
until until next November. But tell me where you think
you dub goes from here. I mean, you never want
to let a team beat it to the old football adage.
Northwestern's coming to town on Saturday with another running quarterback,
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a dual threat guy in Jack Lausch.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Tell me how you think you dub response to this.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I think they'll respond, well, I think they'll come there.
They're going to be disappointed that this was the outcome.
They're going to see all sorts of things on film
that they can be better at. And while Northwestern is
a darn good team, David Brown did an unbelievable job,
maybe the best coaching job of all last year, taking
a team that was in total disarray when Pat Fitzgerald
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got fired and finding a way to win eight games,
including a Bowl game that to me was miraculous. I
would have said to get three wins would have been
a heroic deal, and they end up with eight. But
they've also shown their warts. They got beat by Duke
the other night and overtime, So this to me is
an important Big ten opener, and I think the Huskies
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have the better athletes. I'm taking the dog.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
If I'd have told you last week that Jonah Coleman
is only going to carry it fourteen times against the
Kougs and he wouldn't be injured, he'd play the whole game,
would you been surprised?
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Yeah, yeah, especially given how well that they'd run the ball.
But you know, listen, that game's in the rearview mirror.
We all look at ourselves and are self critical, and
there's no one being more critical of themselves in Jed
and his staff. So they're going to go to work
on it, and I just imagine that things are going
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to turn more much more positive this week.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Well, Rick new Heisl's with us again courtesy of our
friends over at Tackle Toime. We'll get his pick of
the week in a matter of minutes. Arch Manning, we'll
get his first start this week. Quinn Ewers on the
bench for Steve Starkesian against Louisian and Monroe. Can you
see any world here where Arch Manning can Wally Pip
Quinn yours.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Not without a more significant injury to yours. Now, there's
no question that Arch Manning's going to be the fancy, right,
everybody's been waiting for him to play. And when you
go in there and your first play is a touchdown
pass and your third play is a you know whatever,
was a sixty five yard run, and you look faster
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than everybody on the field, that everybody's going to go crazy.
It's called arch madness, right they did. They went nuts.
So Youwers is going to be absolutely motivated to get well.
They've got this game, then they've got Mississippi State. Then
they've got to buy. To me, you're going to see
Manning play the next two weeks, which will be great
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for him and his development. Then you're going to see
yours get well and take the team when they go
down to Dallas to play Oklahoma and the Red River shootout.
And unless there's another injury or you know, obviously complications
for Youers, then it doesn't look like he's the same.
I think this goes back to being Newers team. And
the great thing is Manning's got a family that understands
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of this whole thing, and they won't be a distraction Rick.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
The ongoing battle between Dion and the Boulder media continues.
What did you make of his comments that the media
criticizes these players now because they're jealous that the kids
are getting paid more than they are.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
It's so unnecessary, It's just so unnecessary to be in
this this this this battle. You're You're got enough things
on your hand and on your plate handling the next game.
This week it's Baylor. Congratulations to Colorado for the win.
And uh, it made Colorado State look bad. I think
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Colorado State might be bad, But the bottom line is
you're sitting there two and one and you need four
more wins. That's where the concentration should be, not about
what the Boulder or Colorado media are having to say.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, well, you know that fan base and media corp
better than us, Right. What's the thame of the Italian
restaurant is at pasta Jays? Is that right down there
to Jays?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, As a matter of fact, Jay Jay Lusky, jay
E Luski, the guy that owns that place is going
into Colorado Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Wow, well he should because it was damn good posta
when I was there, by the way, But you know that,
you know that media Corp better nuts. Can they get
to a point because I remember talking to a buddy
of mine down there that said Deon can do whatever
he wants. They go, they go four and eight whatever,
nobody's gonna care. Do you agree with that? Like, does
he get to a point where he might just start
rubbing some people the wrong way if he doesn't start
winning some damn games.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
They have anointed him. Uh and for good reason. They
have decided. You know that they were irrelevant, but before
he got there. Now there's a little semblance of relevancy there.
Certainly was last year. They were the epicenter. Uh. And
if they can keep winning, then that's the case. But
Dion is going to keep drumming up the news and
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if there's if there's gonna be criticism, he'll have something
to say about it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Rick is gonna be weird turning on CBS at twelve
thirty and seeing you sc playing Michigan in a conference game.
I mean, it just blows my mind on many levels.
But it's looks like a pretty good game. I mean,
Michigan's obviously hasn't looked as good as USC so far,
but it's early.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
What do you what do you think of that matchup?
Speaker 6 (17:15):
And I'm in ann Arbor. We're actually doing the studios
so from right here, so I'm looking forward to it. Yeah,
it's like the rose Bull had a baby, right these teams.
These teams have had twice ten times. These teams have
had ten times, and only twice have it not been
a rose Bull. So it's kind of an interesting game.
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You're exactly right. Miller Moss has been outstanding, uh for SC,
but this will be the best defense that Hill had played.
And but I think it really is going to come
down to the Michigan defense. I know everybody points to
the quarterback position in Davis Warren through three picks last
week and he's been replaced by Alex Orgi and Orgy.
Looks like it is a little complicated in terms of
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the forward pass. He's a brilliant athlete. But to me,
Michigan can win with the run game, but they have
to go back to playing Michigan defense, and they certainly
haven't done that in the back end. Will Johnson's an
All American, but they have to do more in terms
of either getting to the passer or complicating the back
end so that they can get some takeaways.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
If your last name was Org, would you would you
consider changing your name?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Seriously, it might just be symbolic of celebration.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Rick new Heisl's with us and Rick.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I'm sitting here looking up at the TV and this
is a non football thing, but I just saw where
shoh Otani just hit his forty ninth home run. He's
got two stolen bases, so he's got fifty one stolen
bases and forty nine home runs. Look going to be
the first fifty player in the history of baseball. I
bring that up because I want to ask you, is
there a must see player in college football right now?
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In your opinion?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Oh goodness, you know the way the way it's going,
it's Art Manning, right a right. Manning is the one
that everybody wants to watch, which is why you ask
the question for a backup quarterback from Texas. Yeah, he's
that kind of guy. But Otani is a special player
and boggles the mind to think that he's actually on
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the shelf with a arm injury, otherwise he'd probably have
fifteen wins as well.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Rick Tennessee is going to charge their fan base a
salary what is it called a talent fee on their tickets?
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Talent fee for their nil I.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Mean, is this gonna spread like wildfire? Is this just
going to be commonplace in college football, big time college
football in less than five years?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
What will be what will be interesting is if other
universities will follow suit and call it that they're going
to be adjusted prices given what these universities are going
to be taking on in terms of a budget or
a line item in their budget, given the House settlement,
which still has more work to be done. But when
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you're taking on twenty two to twenty five million dollars
and adding it to what is going out the door
rather than coming in, you've got to adjust what's coming in.
And Danny White, the ad at Tennessee's, just said, I'm
going to go above board, and to me, it is
a stroke of genius because it's going to motivate the
decision makers to get to the bargaining table sooner so
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that we don't get a disenfranchised world of fans that
are so fed up that they decide I'm not coming anymore.
That can happen. We have we have too popular a game,
and we've gone to the well too many times, whether
it be for buildings, whether it be for ticketed prices
and parking, whether it be now for nil collectives. We
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have to do something about what we're doing to them,
and the way to do it is to grow the pied.
From a television standpoint, that means collectively bargain with the
players that we can get our arms around all the
details that go with the player movement and such, and
also get our arms around scheduling and making good games
for the fans as well.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
All right, Rick, let's get to it real quick talk
with time pick of the week lost on Georgia zero
to four start to the year.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
This is where everything turns. Who do you like this week? Palm?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Well, just so everybody understands, I took Jacksonville State week one,
and they got boat raced. I took Clemson plus the fourteen,
they got boat raced. I took Penn State and I said,
you know what, I'll take the good team minus thirty four,
and they won by one score. I took Georgia minus
twenty three and a half and they won by one point.
I'm right this week, ladies and gentlemen, I'm right this week.
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It's the Iron Skillet game in Dallas. The Metroplex is
the site. SMU is the home team. TCU goes in
there angry over their loss. The UCF there are down.
They are a three point favorite. I'm taking the horn
Frogs over the Ponies for the Iron.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Obulate TCU plus the three against SMU. Let's go and
get off the schneid. All right, man, great stuff. Enjoy
Michigan uns USC and the Baby of the Rose Bowl
at Michigan Stadium.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
And we're talking a week man.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Thanks coach, see you guys.
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Speaker 1 (22:47):
All right, back, here at the five twenty bar and Grail, Dick,
you took the Patriots plus the points tonight against the
Jets on Tuesday. Patriots got a couple of linemen out tonight.
We'll see what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Jets have three defensive starters out.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Oh. CJ.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Moseley may not play either, by the way, correct, I
like it all right? So it's two, it's Thursday, It's
Dick Day Park.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Duh, what do you got.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You're gonna give me six points a line value. You're
gonna give me a team that six days ago was
favored by three in this game and now they're underdogs
by three in this game? Why because Saquon Barkley dropped
the pass at the four yard line.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I mean really, so.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
If Saquon Barkley catches that pass, they're six points worse
on the line. I think the Eagles have a better
chance of winning this game in New Orleans because Saquon
Barkley dropped that pass on Monday night.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Football.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Give me the Philadelphia Eagles, and I can't believe I'm
getting three points in New Orleans against a Saints team.
They got to prove more to me than just what
I've seen so far. I am not sold that the
Saints are a ten win playoff team at this point.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Give me the Eagles plus the points.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
You know, we've seen teams the last couple of years.
Remember the Ravens and the Dolphins got off to those
crazy starts offensively and then just holy cold off. So
I'm with you. I actually picked this game in my
pool this week. I love it, to be honest with you.
Philadelphia plus the three in New Orleans against the Saints.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
You like it, it's fact, you hate it. It's fiction.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
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Speaker 8 (24:24):
Coming to you live from our Elliott Avenue studios of
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Speaker 9 (24:43):
Too, Soleia the Battless in Jolio and Oleah's gotta get
back to two incredibly bad face running mistakes by the Mariners,
back to back rights.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
All right, big thanks to our friend in Rude Sports
for sending that over man. That was last night's game
against the Yankees Victor Roblest. Two nights before Dick and
I talked about this, disagreed not only going out and
hugging Luis Heel after gett hit by a pitch, but
then obviously just a bonehead play at third base trying
to steal home when Justin Turner had a free ball count.
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Nobody better Dick than I can think of to explain
all this to us morons and our buddy Brett Boone
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Speaker 4 (25:26):
Booney, how are you man?
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Yeah, you guys are morons, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Hey, thanks pal, what's up? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Let's let's let's let's start with last night with Julio
Rodriguez bat thrown down the line, hit by the bat.
Somehow Someway thinks it's a dead ball. Maybe he thought
it was a foul. Maybe you thought when he get
when you get hit by a bat, that the umpires
called time out I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
What was your reaction to Julio's reaction last night?
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Reaction, you know, and we'll get to it in a second.
The big play for me was the night before and
you mentioned opening the Roeblace situation. But that being said,
it's the Julio thing bat coming at you. It's a
real It's something you don't prepare for, you know. And
you go and we sit there and we look at Twitter,
and we look at people chiming in on what they
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think it was. The third base coach is for one thing,
you get into a situation or a third he goes
over every scenario. He doesn't go over the throne, bat
at your feet, but he goes over everything else. So
that gets thrown strike three. Julio kind of peels off away.
Then all of a sudden, something clicks. Someone's yelling from
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him in the third base coach box. He dives back
and he's out. I know what's going through his mind
right at that moment, because I had one in two
thousand and two. It's just a bonehead, brain cramp. What
the hell that I just thinking? I'm getting out of
the way. It's a dead ball. It's not you know,
it's not a dead ball, but your brain. You're probably
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never in that situation before, and he reacted the way
he did. It can't happen, especially with the night before
with Roeblaze. And I don't understand. And I watched the
game today, I understand. I understand it's a different game.
I understand this is different than when I played. And
I don't want to tell them you got to play
our way. But the more I watch, the awareness of
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what's going on in the game is at an all
time loan across the board and not just the Mariners,
but have an idea what's going on. It goes from
at bats to what are we trying to do in
this particular situation with a runner ound second and no outs.
There's a runnerund third, no outs, What are we trying
to do here to get this guy home? That's an example.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
At third base.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Heel had a good chance of not getting out of
that inning. He's on the ropes, he cannot throw a strike.
You probably have the best guy at the plate I
want up there as far as controlling the plate, veteran
bigot bats situation in a Justin Turner, he's got that experience.
It's a three to zero count. That's a desperate move.
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That's a guy that's dealing. He's got a MO two.
He knows the history with the hitter and the pitcher.
It's not a good one. I'm gonna try to steal something,
get something going here.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
That's a desperate three.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
To zero with a guy that can't can't throw a
strike and probably was a couple pitches away from coming
out of the game. You're gonna try to steal home
And I'm looking at it like this is stuff like
that happens in low A ball that you have a
moment and you take your player aside and you say, hey,
what do we think in there? And go through all
the scenarios. But this isn't low a ball. This is
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the big legs with I don't know how much more
your bat could be to the wall and to be
in a must win situation that the Mariners are in.
But I watched that and then follow it up with
Julio's brain cramp last night, and I just want to say,
it wasn't lack of hustle, It wasn't him jerking around,
not no, it was I completely lost thought. I thought
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it was a dead ball all of a sudden, I
remembered it's not a dead ball, and I know it's
not a dead ball when you asked me about it.
But coming off what Roblays did the day before, I
you know, this is a big time situation here. Roblas
gets hit with the first pitch of the game, almost
gets hit in the face, and he's having a picnic
with heel. I just didn't do that in our time.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I didn't do I had.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
Friends on the other team. I don't like being friends
with pitchers for that reason, but I had buddies that
pitched against me and the other team, and when it
was that game day, and my buddy, it might be
a golf buddy in the offseason when he's pitching. We're
not buddies right now.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
We might be buddies.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
After the game when it's all said and done. But
that's the way it started for me, and I just thought, yes,
it is different now, guys are friendlier.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
But when you're almost getting a hit in the face
to start a game off and we're going to have
a picnic with the starting pitcher, I don't know the
whole thing. The last two days, I understand the fans
and how they are. And it's just I don't know.
I look at all this and we're worried more about
the trident. Who's gonna hold the trident more than let's
win a game and then celebrate. I put a tweet
out today, I said, we're getting ahead of ourselves. We
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want to celebrate and worry about what we're gonna do
when we get a base hit. What sign we're gonna
flash to the dugout When it's like, let's get a hit,
let's win, and when you win, you get to go
to the postseason. Then you have a good time. I'm
not saying don't have a good time. You know, the
grippy thing years ago, let the kids play.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
I think we're a little over the edge now would
let the kids play that being said, it ain't my game,
it's their game. But all these things and after a while,
when you lose, man, it's the problem looks a lot
bigger than it is when you went. Winning fixed a
lot of things. When you win games, the little things
get tend to be overlooked if they were in the
playoffs right now, where they should be. And that in
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that base running era, last night might have cost a pay.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
It wouldn't be this huge.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Landside in the outpouring from fans because you're winning and
you're going to the postseason. But when it's crush time
and you make that back to back games, base running
errors like that and just not thinking scenarios, Man, it's frustrating.
I could see the fans in Seattle. They're frustrated right now.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Well, you mentioned it happened to you in two thousand
and two. I can't imagine when it happened to you
in two thousand and two that you continued to walk
away for the base from the base for four full seconds.
And you mentioned he re finally realized. I don't think
he ever realized. He didn't realize until the third base
coach was screaming at him, do realize to get back
to the base. So, I mean, so that couldn't have
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happened to you, You wouldn't have walked away.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
From My scenario was a lot different. We were in
a Pennant race. That's the that's the year that the
Angels ended up winning the World Series, and it was
coming down to the final ten days when we were
on a big road trip. We're in Texas and I
was on second base, and there was one out and
there was a flyball to left field. Now I was
going to be the hero, tag up and be on third. Well,
it doesn't matter really in the big leagues. If you're
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on second, you're on third, but two outs you're still
in scoring position. But I thought for sure he was
gonna catch it. I was going to tag, and I
was gonna be on third base ninety feet closer, which
really it's not worth the risk, instead of going halfway
the way I always do in case it does go
off the wall, I score. Well, he deeps me in
left field, pretends like he's gonna catch it. It hits midway
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off the wall. Because I'm tagging, I can't score. I
get to third. I'll never forget it. It was with
me for about four or five days that I made
that big of a blunder that costs us the game
at crunch time with ten games to go in the season,
and it was something I'm just talking. It's not the same,
but it's a bone head what are you thinking moment?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Like, I would never do that.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
I don't remember ever making base running errors, but I
made one that day in two thousand and two at
a crucial time, and I remember it was with me
for a long time.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Hey, Boonie, before you go, we're up against the clock
a little bit here. But I'm looking at this Dodgers
Marlins game today. Joeyotani has two stolen bases and he's
got two home runs.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
He just became a.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
First fifty fifty player and the history of baseball. He
is five for five on the day with seven RBIs,
two home runs, and two stolen bases. Honestly, how impressive,
how amazing, how historical?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Is this what shoe hal Toddy just did.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
He's he's something I thought we'd never see before. And
I'll tell you he's he's talking about coming for the
postseason and pitching, just to just to officially put a
cape on his back when he comes to the ballpark.
But what he's doing is unheard of. We never thought
we'd see it. Imagine when he starts pitching again and
doing what he can add at worst when he pitches,
he's a number two at worst, So he's doing what
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he's doing on this side of the defense kind of
judge like Sodo, like as an offensive player. And then
oh yeah, by the way, I'm kind of glass now
is as a pitcher unbelievable. Now you're gonna have the
baseball purists and especially the guys that stole a lot
of base You're gonna have Rickey Henderson to the world
and the Vince Coleman's of the world looking at stolen
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base and go, a wait a minute, that's kind of
a you know, it's an easy way to steal bases,
and it is. It's it's a real soft fifty bags
because it's not like it used to be. I think
they put the rule in place for a reason to
encourage this base stealing, and it's definitely done what they
said it in place to do. But I think going forward,
because you've got guys thinking about stealing bases now and
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I think it's great for the game, I think they're
gonna have to peel back that rule to make it
a little more fair for the pitcher and the catcher
to have a chance. And then just two disengagement, because
I think the two disengagement if you're an elite, astute
base steeler, it's too easy for you.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, I think you're talking about potentially the greatest season
ever in baseball history, certainly worth talking about all right, man, Brett,
great stuff. We have another USC legend, Mike Holmgren standing
by h.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I love him.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I will we will grab you in a week, my friend.
Appreciate it. Pal.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
You got to all right, Brett Boone, we got to
talk to Mike about this. Don't we have to talk
to Mike about the Otani thing? I mean, why not?
He's a baseball.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
History man, are we?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Are we seeing maybe the greatest individual season ever in
the history of the sport.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Well, we'll get some thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Michael be here talking about the Patriot win the game
coming up this Sunday against Miami. If he were too
a tongue vlo his dad, what would he advise him
to do regarding his health? Next Dick from the five
twenty Bar and Grill in Bellevue right here on ninety
three three kJ R FM
Where we go Mike Holmgren show, He'll be here at
four o'clock today talking to NFL. We got Brett Boone,
we got Rick new Heisler. You know new Heiseal had
another miss by the way in his talk of time
Pick of the week, So I don't know what more
to say. I mean, you got to play the dip, dude,
he was given twenty three and a half to Georgia
against Kentucky. He's zero to four on the year. I mean,
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we don't see that moving on much longer. So don't
you want to jump on that today at three twenty
when Rick pops on the air with us and play
the dip?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, didn't he start really cold last year and then
caught fire at the end of the season and almost
finished five hundred or maybe even got the five hundred two.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I believe he did.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I don't know if I have his picks from last year.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
So I want to say he started super cold and rallied.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yeah he won. He was one and two on the
year to start, and then he won three in a row.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, not that not too bad. Now, this
is this is not very good. So we're gonna see
what Rick likes s. Curtesy had taco time at three
twenty Brett boone who look, I gotta be honest with you.
I don't know how much of this phone call he'll reference,
but we talked at like six forty five this morning.
I think Booneie was up doing like the nine minute
ab thing, and you know, I was just having my coffee,
sitting in bed like a slug like I always do.
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And he is he is I mean between us, dude,
like the three of us here. Yeah, he is mother
f and everybody after last.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Night's saw the tweet. He's not happy, dude.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
He was not happy.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
He's a Julio this, you know, freaking Victor Robles that
and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
It was horrible.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So we're gonna talk to Boonie at three forty five
to day, and I just don't know where to start
with this thing. I mean, obviously the m's are. You know,
they got the Yankees today down there at t Mobile Park.
But I think what happened last night is still very
much at top of mine. I went on the air
Dick with chuckum Buck and Ashley at seven o'clock today
to talk Huskies, and we.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Didn't mention one thing about the Huskies.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It was twenty minutes of NonStop Mariner bashing, and I
just don't think anything has really changed. I mean, I'm
not going to lose my mind about this because I
did this morning. I'm not gonna lose my mind about
this because I did it a month ago, two weeks ago,
three weeks ago, four weeks ago. The funeral we had, yeah,
going after service, you know, going after Podo and his legacy,
going after John Stanton. It's just just more of the same.
And now it's just becoming humiliating, you know, with the
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way these guys are performing. I mean, the idea that,
first of all, we have people in this town that
are defending Julio Rodriguez and that decision last night at
third base.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Look, guys, we all love Julio.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, he's a young guy, he's got a lot of
time left in here, he's got supreme talent, five tool guy,
blah blah blah. But if we can't even be you know, above,
you know, or below criticizing a guy when he deserves criticism.
And I don't even know if that makes any sense,
but you know what I'm trying to say, if we
can't even be honest about this stuff, then.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Like, what's the point? I mean, why don't we all
just wake up and.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Just stick our heads directly up their ass and just
whatever they want us to say is what we'll say.
You know, whatever the you know, propaganda machine spits out
that day, that's what we'll go with. You know, I'm
watching the postgame show last night. Ask me why, I
have no idea. I was just watching it.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Were you hoping that they'd say something critical about the
baseball team?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I was just hoping that I would hear maybe a
little bit of what I was thinking last night, And
it was ten seconds on Julio and three minutes on
how great Bryce Miller was right, Like, come on, guys,
I mean, if you're gonna be in the TV business,
then run the TV network like it's a business.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You buy a TV station, you buy a TV network,
and you want people to watch. You're not getting anyone
to watch if you're gonna keep talking to fans like
they're friggin idiots. And that's what they do on that network,
and it drives me insane.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I'm sorry. I mean, that's gonna piss people off. I
get it.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm sure they're just doing what they're told, but it
makes me nuts to watch this stuff. There is no
baseball player, not one, that will tell you that being
hit with a bat equals a dead ball. Nobody who's
ever played the game will ever ever tell you that
there was nothing about what Julio did last night that's excusable.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Now. Do I want to run the guy out of town?
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Do I want to bench the guy and trade them,
of course not. Do I still love him, of course
I do. But last night was a major mistake by
Julio Rodriguez. What Victor Robolis Dick did two nights ago,
major meet You're a mistake by Victor Roeblitz, This is.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
And then you add the idea he gets beamed by
Luis Gill and then goes out and hugs the guy.
You know how many old school players would throw up
at that after they saw that in the first inning
a couple of nights ago.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So I disagree with you on that one. Believe that.
I think that's a totally different case than the other two.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Dick, Dick, Dick, I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I don't even care, right I mean, if if it
doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother you, it bothers the
piss out of me, and it bothers the crap out
of a lot of people. A lot of people have
taken your side on that thing, and that's totally fine.
I could not care less because every fan has a
right to react any way they damn will.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Want to with this baseball team.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And even if the fans on your side, if there's
one hundred fans and fifty of them aren't bothered by it,
you have created fifty more that are bothered by it.
And that's the problem with this team and this franchise
is that every single day they find a way to
chip away at whatever credibility.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
They have left with the fan base. And it did it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
They did it again last night with Julio. So look,
I mean, here the they are in a horrible spot.
They're basically done with the division. I mean, the Astros
are five games up with ten games left to go.
The M's have to go ten and zero. If they
go five and five to catch him, Twins and Tigers
are now tied. The Mariners basically have to go like
eight and one in their final nine if they win
today to have any shot at a wildcard spot. So look,
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I get it, man, you know it's just more of
the same. And we are literally on the cusp, if
not already there of throwing dirt on the whole on
this twenty twenty four Mariner season and the biggest waste
of pitching in franchise.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So can I ask you real quick what?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, the people that are defending Julio, what are they saying.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
That it's a human reaction when a bat is thrown
at you?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Okay, but a lot of people, good, I'm glad you
said that. I'm God because I'll take off that on
that point.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I went back and watched this numerous times, and I
took a stop watch out. And the reason I took
a stopwatch out is I wanted to see one how
long did Julio continue to walk away from third base
after the bat passed him, because then it's not talking.
You're not in danger anymore if the beats by you.
And secondly, how long did it take for the catcher
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to throw the ball to third base? And the answer
to those questions is exactly three seconds. Jueo Rodriguez after
the bat passed him continued towards the dugout for three
full seconds after the bat passed him, and the bat
was dead in left field before Julio even turned around.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's how long it took.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And it took four seconds for the catcher to actually
throw the ball back to third base. So don't give
me the natural reaction. How many times in our lifetimes
have we seen a third base coach or a third
baseman or a player standing on third base almost get
hit by a bat? It happens numerous times every single
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baseball season. And how many times of our lifetime have
we seen a guy at third get picked off after?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
That happens?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
For me in fifty years, probably forty five years of
watching baseball, that was the first.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, no, I agree, I've never seen it either. I mean,
we've seen bats tossed down the line. I'm gajillion time,
of course, I'm totally with you. Never seen it, So look,
I mean, it's just it's just it's more fuel for
the fire. It's more gas on the flames for fans
that are just completely at their wits end with this franchise.
So we'll see what Booney says at three forty five,
Dick about all that. We just say, we got to
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Speaker 1 (07:57):
All right, we're back here at the five twenty Bar
and Grill in Bellevue. Thomas, the bartender, by the way,
is here. Wants everyone to know he's very much available,
does have his own car, and just moved out of
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Speaker 3 (08:30):
I am well.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
As a matter of fact, I dined at the five
to twenty Bar and Grill the last time I was
in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, why would you not? It's the best place to
be on the question about it?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Yeah, my good buddy John Bench lives literally a stone's
throw from there.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm gonna go bang on his door when I'm all
said and done here. By the way, hey, I was
told last week to not lead with the negatives, So
we'll just do the Taco Time Pick of the week
in fifteen minutes and just shelve that for now. And
let's let's lead with some positives. I mean, I don't
even know if there are positive.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I could not be worse. I could not be worse. Hopefully,
hopefully everybody's faded me till now. And now is the
time to jump on the wagon. Now, okay, jump in
the wagon.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, now's the time to buy the dip is Dick
and I say, it's all good. We have a long season,
But why don't we just start because we haven't had
you on since last week. I know you're wrong with
Chuck and Buck on Tuesday with Ashley, your thoughts on
the on the fourth down play that that that Jedfish
called in the Apple Cup. And also I showed you
the video of Denzel Boston's third down catch and run
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where he could have dove for the pylon, could have
found a way to sneak into the end zone, but instead, uh,
you know, scoots out of bounds.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
What was your take on that on that third and
fourth down play by U dub.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Well, there was no need to go out of bounds
because you weren't trying to save clock. Clock was not
an issue at that time.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
And but I do I do agree if Jed said
that they're teaching not to reach the ball out because
we've all seen that horror of the ball being stripped
as being reached for the pylon and that rolls through
the end zone and becomes a touchback for the opponent.
So I'm sure that was coached. But there was no
reason not to leave your feet and dive for that
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pylon and secure the ball. He had a chance to
do that. As I looked at the film.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Rick, would you ever have a situation where your quarterback
does not have a check to get out of a
play at the line of scrimmage that was called.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
It's unlikely. But again they called time out prior to
the fourth down call, so I'm sure they're looking at
their two point plays? What was the problem two point plays?
As you know, you can pick where the ball's placed.
You can put it on the left hash and put
it in the middle you and put on the right hash.
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That play they ran to the right. I'm guessing because
Will Rogers is right handed and he doesn't have a
lot of option background. I mean, he was in a
Mike Leach offense. We'd have to look at a lot
of film before we an option in Mike Leach's offense,
right So if that, they probably practiced it only to
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his throwing hand, which is the easier end for a
right hand or to pitch with. So they are running
it into the short side of the field. And then
as you watch that play, the tight end reaches. The
defender outside the tight end has to be the pitch
man that they're blocking. It is that they're running zone,
which means that the quarterback should have put his foot
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in the ground and cut back behind the basically the
defensive tackle. But that wasn't the case. They were trying
to get to the edge and there was no edge
and he ran out of room, and so you've got
a dead play.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Well, the good news is there's nine games left to
go to you know, get over it. I mean typically
any other given year would be done and you'd be
just banging your head against the wall thinking about this
until until next November. But tell me where you think
you dub goes from here. I mean, you never want
to let a team beat it to the old football adage.
Northwestern's coming to town on Saturday with another running quarterback,
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a dual threat guy in Jack Lausch.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Tell me how you think you dub response to this.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I think they'll respond, well, I think they'll come there.
They're going to be disappointed that this was the outcome.
They're going to see all sorts of things on film
that they can be better at. And while Northwestern is
a darn good team, David Brown did an unbelievable job,
maybe the best coaching job of all last year, taking
a team that was in total disarray when Pat Fitzgerald
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got fired and finding a way to win eight games,
including a Bowl game that to me was miraculous. I
would have said to get three wins would have been
a heroic deal, and they end up with eight. But
they've also shown their warts. They got beat by Duke
the other night and overtime, So this to me is
an important Big ten opener, and I think the Huskies
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have the better athletes. I'm taking the dog.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
If I'd have told you last week that Jonah Coleman
is only going to carry it fourteen times against the
Kougs and he wouldn't be injured, he'd play the whole game,
would you been surprised?
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Yeah, yeah, especially given how well that they'd run the ball.
But you know, listen, that game's in the rearview mirror.
We all look at ourselves and are self critical, and
there's no one being more critical of themselves in Jed
and his staff. So they're going to go to work
on it, and I just imagine that things are going
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to turn more much more positive this week.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Well, Rick new Heisl's with us again courtesy of our
friends over at Tackle Toime. We'll get his pick of
the week in a matter of minutes. Arch Manning, we'll
get his first start this week. Quinn Ewers on the
bench for Steve Starkesian against Louisian and Monroe. Can you
see any world here where Arch Manning can Wally Pip
Quinn yours.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Not without a more significant injury to yours. Now, there's
no question that Arch Manning's going to be the fancy, right,
everybody's been waiting for him to play. And when you
go in there and your first play is a touchdown
pass and your third play is a you know whatever,
was a sixty five yard run, and you look faster
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than everybody on the field, that everybody's going to go crazy.
It's called arch madness, right they did. They went nuts.
So Youwers is going to be absolutely motivated to get well.
They've got this game, then they've got Mississippi State. Then
they've got to buy. To me, you're going to see
Manning play the next two weeks, which will be great
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for him and his development. Then you're going to see
yours get well and take the team when they go
down to Dallas to play Oklahoma and the Red River shootout.
And unless there's another injury or you know, obviously complications
for Youers, then it doesn't look like he's the same.
I think this goes back to being Newers team. And
the great thing is Manning's got a family that understands
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of this whole thing, and they won't be a distraction Rick.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
The ongoing battle between Dion and the Boulder media continues.
What did you make of his comments that the media
criticizes these players now because they're jealous that the kids
are getting paid more than they are.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
It's so unnecessary, It's just so unnecessary to be in
this this this this battle. You're You're got enough things
on your hand and on your plate handling the next game.
This week it's Baylor. Congratulations to Colorado for the win.
And uh, it made Colorado State look bad. I think
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Colorado State might be bad, But the bottom line is
you're sitting there two and one and you need four
more wins. That's where the concentration should be, not about
what the Boulder or Colorado media are having to say.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, well, you know that fan base and media corp
better than us, Right. What's the thame of the Italian
restaurant is at pasta Jays? Is that right down there
to Jays?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, As a matter of fact, Jay Jay Lusky, jay
E Luski, the guy that owns that place is going
into Colorado Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Wow, well he should because it was damn good posta
when I was there, by the way, But you know that,
you know that media Corp better nuts. Can they get
to a point because I remember talking to a buddy
of mine down there that said Deon can do whatever
he wants. They go, they go four and eight whatever,
nobody's gonna care. Do you agree with that? Like, does
he get to a point where he might just start
rubbing some people the wrong way if he doesn't start
winning some damn games.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
They have anointed him. Uh and for good reason. They
have decided. You know that they were irrelevant, but before
he got there. Now there's a little semblance of relevancy there.
Certainly was last year. They were the epicenter. Uh. And
if they can keep winning, then that's the case. But
Dion is going to keep drumming up the news and
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if there's if there's gonna be criticism, he'll have something
to say about it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Rick is gonna be weird turning on CBS at twelve
thirty and seeing you sc playing Michigan in a conference game.
I mean, it just blows my mind on many levels.
But it's looks like a pretty good game. I mean,
Michigan's obviously hasn't looked as good as USC so far,
but it's early.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
What do you what do you think of that matchup?
Speaker 6 (17:15):
And I'm in ann Arbor. We're actually doing the studios
so from right here, so I'm looking forward to it. Yeah,
it's like the rose Bull had a baby, right these teams.
These teams have had twice ten times. These teams have
had ten times, and only twice have it not been
a rose Bull. So it's kind of an interesting game.
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You're exactly right. Miller Moss has been outstanding, uh for SC,
but this will be the best defense that Hill had played.
And but I think it really is going to come
down to the Michigan defense. I know everybody points to
the quarterback position in Davis Warren through three picks last
week and he's been replaced by Alex Orgi and Orgy.
Looks like it is a little complicated in terms of
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the forward pass. He's a brilliant athlete. But to me,
Michigan can win with the run game, but they have
to go back to playing Michigan defense, and they certainly
haven't done that in the back end. Will Johnson's an
All American, but they have to do more in terms
of either getting to the passer or complicating the back
end so that they can get some takeaways.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
If your last name was Org, would you would you
consider changing your name?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Seriously, it might just be symbolic of celebration.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Rick new Heisl's with us and Rick.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I'm sitting here looking up at the TV and this
is a non football thing, but I just saw where
shoh Otani just hit his forty ninth home run. He's
got two stolen bases, so he's got fifty one stolen
bases and forty nine home runs. Look going to be
the first fifty player in the history of baseball. I
bring that up because I want to ask you, is
there a must see player in college football right now?
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In your opinion?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Oh goodness, you know the way the way it's going,
it's Art Manning, right a right. Manning is the one
that everybody wants to watch, which is why you ask
the question for a backup quarterback from Texas. Yeah, he's
that kind of guy. But Otani is a special player
and boggles the mind to think that he's actually on
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the shelf with a arm injury, otherwise he'd probably have
fifteen wins as well.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Rick Tennessee is going to charge their fan base a
salary what is it called a talent fee on their tickets?
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Talent fee for their nil I.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Mean, is this gonna spread like wildfire? Is this just
going to be commonplace in college football, big time college
football in less than five years?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
What will be what will be interesting is if other
universities will follow suit and call it that they're going
to be adjusted prices given what these universities are going
to be taking on in terms of a budget or
a line item in their budget, given the House settlement,
which still has more work to be done. But when
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you're taking on twenty two to twenty five million dollars
and adding it to what is going out the door
rather than coming in, you've got to adjust what's coming in.
And Danny White, the ad at Tennessee's, just said, I'm
going to go above board, and to me, it is
a stroke of genius because it's going to motivate the
decision makers to get to the bargaining table sooner so
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that we don't get a disenfranchised world of fans that
are so fed up that they decide I'm not coming anymore.
That can happen. We have we have too popular a game,
and we've gone to the well too many times, whether
it be for buildings, whether it be for ticketed prices
and parking, whether it be now for nil collectives. We
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have to do something about what we're doing to them,
and the way to do it is to grow the pied.
From a television standpoint, that means collectively bargain with the
players that we can get our arms around all the
details that go with the player movement and such, and
also get our arms around scheduling and making good games
for the fans as well.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
All right, Rick, let's get to it real quick talk
with time pick of the week lost on Georgia zero
to four start to the year.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
This is where everything turns. Who do you like this week? Palm?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Well, just so everybody understands, I took Jacksonville State week one,
and they got boat raced. I took Clemson plus the fourteen,
they got boat raced. I took Penn State and I said,
you know what, I'll take the good team minus thirty four,
and they won by one score. I took Georgia minus
twenty three and a half and they won by one point.
I'm right this week, ladies and gentlemen, I'm right this week.
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It's the Iron Skillet game in Dallas. The Metroplex is
the site. SMU is the home team. TCU goes in
there angry over their loss. The UCF there are down.
They are a three point favorite. I'm taking the horn
Frogs over the Ponies for the Iron.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Obulate TCU plus the three against SMU. Let's go and
get off the schneid. All right, man, great stuff. Enjoy
Michigan uns USC and the Baby of the Rose Bowl
at Michigan Stadium.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
And we're talking a week man.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Thanks coach, see you guys.
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Speaker 1 (22:47):
All right, back, here at the five twenty bar and Grail, Dick,
you took the Patriots plus the points tonight against the
Jets on Tuesday. Patriots got a couple of linemen out tonight.
We'll see what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Jets have three defensive starters out.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Oh. CJ.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Moseley may not play either, by the way, correct, I
like it all right? So it's two, it's Thursday, It's
Dick Day Park.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Duh, what do you got.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You're gonna give me six points a line value. You're
gonna give me a team that six days ago was
favored by three in this game and now they're underdogs
by three in this game? Why because Saquon Barkley dropped
the pass at the four yard line.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I mean really, so.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
If Saquon Barkley catches that pass, they're six points worse
on the line. I think the Eagles have a better
chance of winning this game in New Orleans because Saquon
Barkley dropped that pass on Monday night.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Football.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Give me the Philadelphia Eagles, and I can't believe I'm
getting three points in New Orleans against a Saints team.
They got to prove more to me than just what
I've seen so far. I am not sold that the
Saints are a ten win playoff team at this point.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Give me the Eagles plus the points.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
You know, we've seen teams the last couple of years.
Remember the Ravens and the Dolphins got off to those
crazy starts offensively and then just holy cold off. So
I'm with you. I actually picked this game in my
pool this week. I love it, to be honest with you.
Philadelphia plus the three in New Orleans against the Saints.
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Speaker 9 (24:43):
Too, Soleia the Battless in Jolio and Oleah's gotta get
back to two incredibly bad face running mistakes by the Mariners,
back to back rights.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
All right, big thanks to our friend in Rude Sports
for sending that over man. That was last night's game
against the Yankees Victor Roblest. Two nights before Dick and
I talked about this, disagreed not only going out and
hugging Luis Heel after gett hit by a pitch, but
then obviously just a bonehead play at third base trying
to steal home when Justin Turner had a free ball count.
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Nobody better Dick than I can think of to explain
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Speaker 4 (25:26):
Booney, how are you man?
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Yeah, you guys are morons, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Hey, thanks pal, what's up? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Let's let's let's let's start with last night with Julio
Rodriguez bat thrown down the line, hit by the bat.
Somehow Someway thinks it's a dead ball. Maybe he thought
it was a foul. Maybe you thought when he get
when you get hit by a bat, that the umpires
called time out I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
What was your reaction to Julio's reaction last night?
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Reaction, you know, and we'll get to it in a second.
The big play for me was the night before and
you mentioned opening the Roeblace situation. But that being said,
it's the Julio thing bat coming at you. It's a
real It's something you don't prepare for, you know. And
you go and we sit there and we look at Twitter,
and we look at people chiming in on what they
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think it was. The third base coach is for one thing,
you get into a situation or a third he goes
over every scenario. He doesn't go over the throne, bat
at your feet, but he goes over everything else. So
that gets thrown strike three. Julio kind of peels off away.
Then all of a sudden, something clicks. Someone's yelling from
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him in the third base coach box. He dives back
and he's out. I know what's going through his mind
right at that moment, because I had one in two
thousand and two. It's just a bonehead, brain cramp. What
the hell that I just thinking? I'm getting out of
the way. It's a dead ball. It's not you know,
it's not a dead ball, but your brain. You're probably
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never in that situation before, and he reacted the way
he did. It can't happen, especially with the night before
with Roeblaze. And I don't understand. And I watched the
game today, I understand. I understand it's a different game.
I understand this is different than when I played. And
I don't want to tell them you got to play
our way. But the more I watch, the awareness of
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what's going on in the game is at an all
time loan across the board and not just the Mariners,
but have an idea what's going on. It goes from
at bats to what are we trying to do in
this particular situation with a runner ound second and no outs.
There's a runnerund third, no outs, What are we trying
to do here to get this guy home? That's an example.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
At third base.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Heel had a good chance of not getting out of
that inning. He's on the ropes, he cannot throw a strike.
You probably have the best guy at the plate I
want up there as far as controlling the plate, veteran
bigot bats situation in a Justin Turner, he's got that experience.
It's a three to zero count. That's a desperate move.
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That's a guy that's dealing. He's got a MO two.
He knows the history with the hitter and the pitcher.
It's not a good one. I'm gonna try to steal something,
get something going here.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
That's a desperate three.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
To zero with a guy that can't can't throw a
strike and probably was a couple pitches away from coming
out of the game. You're gonna try to steal home
And I'm looking at it like this is stuff like
that happens in low A ball that you have a
moment and you take your player aside and you say, hey,
what do we think in there? And go through all
the scenarios. But this isn't low a ball. This is
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the big legs with I don't know how much more
your bat could be to the wall and to be
in a must win situation that the Mariners are in.
But I watched that and then follow it up with
Julio's brain cramp last night, and I just want to say,
it wasn't lack of hustle, It wasn't him jerking around,
not no, it was I completely lost thought. I thought
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it was a dead ball all of a sudden, I
remembered it's not a dead ball, and I know it's
not a dead ball when you asked me about it.
But coming off what Roblays did the day before, I
you know, this is a big time situation here. Roblas
gets hit with the first pitch of the game, almost
gets hit in the face, and he's having a picnic
with heel. I just didn't do that in our time.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I didn't do I had.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
Friends on the other team. I don't like being friends
with pitchers for that reason, but I had buddies that
pitched against me and the other team, and when it
was that game day, and my buddy, it might be
a golf buddy in the offseason when he's pitching. We're
not buddies right now.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
We might be buddies.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
After the game when it's all said and done. But
that's the way it started for me, and I just thought, yes,
it is different now, guys are friendlier.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
But when you're almost getting a hit in the face
to start a game off and we're going to have
a picnic with the starting pitcher, I don't know the
whole thing. The last two days, I understand the fans
and how they are. And it's just I don't know.
I look at all this and we're worried more about
the trident. Who's gonna hold the trident more than let's
win a game and then celebrate. I put a tweet
out today, I said, we're getting ahead of ourselves. We
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want to celebrate and worry about what we're gonna do
when we get a base hit. What sign we're gonna
flash to the dugout When it's like, let's get a hit,
let's win, and when you win, you get to go
to the postseason. Then you have a good time. I'm
not saying don't have a good time. You know, the
grippy thing years ago, let the kids play.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
I think we're a little over the edge now would
let the kids play that being said, it ain't my game,
it's their game. But all these things and after a while,
when you lose, man, it's the problem looks a lot
bigger than it is when you went. Winning fixed a
lot of things. When you win games, the little things
get tend to be overlooked if they were in the
playoffs right now, where they should be. And that in
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that base running era, last night might have cost a pay.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
It wouldn't be this huge.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Landside in the outpouring from fans because you're winning and
you're going to the postseason. But when it's crush time
and you make that back to back games, base running
errors like that and just not thinking scenarios, Man, it's frustrating.
I could see the fans in Seattle. They're frustrated right now.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Well, you mentioned it happened to you in two thousand
and two. I can't imagine when it happened to you
in two thousand and two that you continued to walk
away for the base from the base for four full seconds.
And you mentioned he re finally realized. I don't think
he ever realized. He didn't realize until the third base
coach was screaming at him, do realize to get back
to the base. So, I mean, so that couldn't have
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happened to you, You wouldn't have walked away.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
From My scenario was a lot different. We were in
a Pennant race. That's the that's the year that the
Angels ended up winning the World Series, and it was
coming down to the final ten days when we were
on a big road trip. We're in Texas and I
was on second base, and there was one out and
there was a flyball to left field. Now I was
going to be the hero, tag up and be on third. Well,
it doesn't matter really in the big leagues. If you're
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on second, you're on third, but two outs you're still
in scoring position. But I thought for sure he was
gonna catch it. I was going to tag, and I
was gonna be on third base ninety feet closer, which
really it's not worth the risk, instead of going halfway
the way I always do in case it does go
off the wall, I score. Well, he deeps me in
left field, pretends like he's gonna catch it. It hits midway
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off the wall. Because I'm tagging, I can't score. I
get to third. I'll never forget it. It was with
me for about four or five days that I made
that big of a blunder that costs us the game
at crunch time with ten games to go in the season,
and it was something I'm just talking. It's not the same,
but it's a bone head what are you thinking moment?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Like, I would never do that.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
I don't remember ever making base running errors, but I
made one that day in two thousand and two at
a crucial time, and I remember it was with me
for a long time.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Hey, Boonie, before you go, we're up against the clock
a little bit here. But I'm looking at this Dodgers
Marlins game today. Joeyotani has two stolen bases and he's
got two home runs.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
He just became a.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
First fifty fifty player and the history of baseball. He
is five for five on the day with seven RBIs,
two home runs, and two stolen bases. Honestly, how impressive,
how amazing, how historical?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Is this what shoe hal Toddy just did.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
He's he's something I thought we'd never see before. And
I'll tell you he's he's talking about coming for the
postseason and pitching, just to just to officially put a
cape on his back when he comes to the ballpark.
But what he's doing is unheard of. We never thought
we'd see it. Imagine when he starts pitching again and
doing what he can add at worst when he pitches,
he's a number two at worst, So he's doing what
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he's doing on this side of the defense kind of
judge like Sodo, like as an offensive player. And then
oh yeah, by the way, I'm kind of glass now
is as a pitcher unbelievable. Now you're gonna have the
baseball purists and especially the guys that stole a lot
of base You're gonna have Rickey Henderson to the world
and the Vince Coleman's of the world looking at stolen
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base and go, a wait a minute, that's kind of
a you know, it's an easy way to steal bases,
and it is. It's it's a real soft fifty bags
because it's not like it used to be. I think
they put the rule in place for a reason to
encourage this base stealing, and it's definitely done what they
said it in place to do. But I think going forward,
because you've got guys thinking about stealing bases now and
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I think it's great for the game, I think they're
gonna have to peel back that rule to make it
a little more fair for the pitcher and the catcher
to have a chance. And then just two disengagement, because
I think the two disengagement if you're an elite, astute
base steeler, it's too easy for you.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, I think you're talking about potentially the greatest season
ever in baseball history, certainly worth talking about all right, man, Brett,
great stuff. We have another USC legend, Mike Holmgren standing
by h.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I love him.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I will we will grab you in a week, my friend.
Appreciate it. Pal.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
You got to all right, Brett Boone, we got to
talk to Mike about this. Don't we have to talk
to Mike about the Otani thing? I mean, why not?
He's a baseball.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
History man, are we?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Are we seeing maybe the greatest individual season ever in
the history of the sport.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Well, we'll get some thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Michael be here talking about the Patriot win the game
coming up this Sunday against Miami. If he were too
a tongue vlo his dad, what would he advise him
to do regarding his health? Next Dick from the five
twenty Bar and Grill in Bellevue right here on ninety
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