September 2, 2024 • 35 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Steven Souza about the funeral for the 2024 Mariners and what changes need to be made for 2025, then they discuss Jedd Fisch’s possible next job before crosstalk with Tony Castricone from UW.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Coming to you live from the Elliott Avenue studios of
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. This is our
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we haven't talked to this guy in like a month
for some reason. Here he is our friend, steven Susa Junior.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
How are you, man?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Man?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
What a great sweep this weekend. Right, they're right in
the train, the momentums going into oaklen and here we go.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Let's live in an alternate reality. That's phenomenal. What a
great idea. Why not just create our own truth?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Why not? Well we would.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We'd like to first of all, thank you for coming today,
Steven and all the people that have gathered here at
ninety three to three KJRFM, because we have a somber
moment here on the radio program that we, by the way,
would not proceed without your permission and encouragement. So thank
you for providing the kick that opened the door to
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get this done.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
We are gathering.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Here's bid farewell the twenty twenty four Mariner playoff chances.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Let us bow our heads carry the memory of an elite.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Pitching staff that eventually left this earth as they were
flushed down the toilet of history and burnt to a
crisp by a pathetic offense, A team that left Dick
and Steve and all that are gathered here now an
indelible mark on the whole Seattle community, a mark of embarrassment,
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a scarlet letter, a stain, a scorch, a reminder always
of the stink of its ownership of a cloud the
city's baseball dreams for years to come. Scott's services name,
we say, I'm in, I'm in. Godspeed the twenty twenty
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five Seattle Maritors. As they enter the gates of mediocrity.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
They don't get to go to heaven either. I mean,
they're going someplace else.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Steve, thank you for coming. Could have not done it
without your pal.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
That was that was really something, you know. I mean,
you put that together. That's why you're the best in
the biz right there.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, we got practice doing it, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We've really done this like every other year for the
last twenty years. I mean, dude, it's over right, Like
they're six games out, they're done.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously you know it's never over.
But you know, you look at the schedule. The Astros
have that They ran through their toughest part of their
schedule with the Phillies, the Orioles and the Royals, and
they did pretty good. They didn't lose any games. In fact,
they gained a couple on the Mariners. And you know
after this Red Series they go d backed Oakland, you know, Anaheim,
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Anaheim again for four Padres Mariners, and it just does it.
I don't see the gap where the Mariner's gonna be
able to take it over unless they just start figuring
out a whole different brand of baseball to play.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
This last month, I mean I was holding soft, you know,
as I've been holding on by just a thread, without
much optimism whatsoever.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
But I was still.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Following each and every game with the hope that they
would turn around. And for me it was it was
Saturday as we were at the Husky game. I mean,
you're up in that game four to one, and your
bullpen just does what your bullpen has been doing way
too often over the last two or three months, and that.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Is just just blowing a lead.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Is that kind of the game that we can look
at and say that was it? That was all?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I agree. I mean, man, they jumped out in front, right,
they the one run lead in the second inning and
then packed on three more in the fourth, and you're thinking,
all right, you know, were able to get it to
the bullpen and put it away here with two two
haud of two wins going into Sunday and yeah, winning
in the last couple of Series two with some momentum
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and just it was just one bad mistake at a time,
and the bullpen leaves a pitch over the middle, and
you know, the runners hitters leave some runners on bait
and don't capitalize. I mean, they were one for eight
on Saturday with runners in scorn position, where it's just
like they can never push it over the edge to
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blow it open and continue to add on. And that's
just been the story of the year right there. Then
inability to hit with runners in scoring position all year long.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, I mean, look, the offense is just the same, right,
nothing's changed, and they're going to have to make a
major overhaul to a lot of different things personnel and
philosophy over the offseason. But Dick, would you say, month
by month, this is the worst month of the year
the August, Is that right?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Pitching wise? For the matters?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yes, So I wonder, Steven, are they starting to kind
of feel that a little bit?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know that they got to be maybe way too fine.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
They're just way too you know, kind of tentative with
the way they're approaching these games because they know the
offense is so bad that one mistake will kill them.
Are you're starting to see kind of a maybe a
more tentative approach by this pitching staff.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
No, I wouldn't say it's necessary tentative, but I would
say that along those lines, it's very difficult to count
on your rotation to do what they've done for you know,
five out of the six months they're they're bound to
have a bad month and be realistically human, I mean,
not all five are going to be top five in
the cy Young So they're gonna take a step back
at some point. And you know, it's in those moments
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and in those months or weeks that you hope that
the offense can kind of fill in the gaps. But
they just weren't able to do it right. This pitching
staff was historically unbelievable. So for them to fall back
just a little bit, it wasn't even like catastrophic. It
was just the worst month they had. It's very very
acceptable for them to do with how good they've been.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, I mean they fell all the way quote unquote
to Knights in Baseball in the month and up, you know,
and but what happened also while we were falling to
Night Steven, the Astros had a two five to one
e RA in August, That is a half a run
better than any other team in baseball? What the hell
happen with it just getting healthy or what else you
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see in from the Astros, because they're not only just
hitting now they're pitching too.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah. I mean, obviously they got Verlander back, and they've
always had good arms and they just can't kind of
ran into some bad stretches, right, But you know, Verlander's
not even pitching that great for them. They've just been
able to capitalize in the bullpen and hold it down.
Their bullpen's been really good in the second half of
the year with fort I think has like a one
to one and Hater's been one of the best pitchers
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in the league in the second half. And yeah, they've
just been able to piece it together in the bullpen
and hold the leads to what they've got and they're
starting pitching. You know, it's been pretty good all year long.
Obviously they were really good in August. But listen, we
knew this was going to happen. We talked about it
back in May that if the Mariners didn't gain enough
ground and keep it going, that eventually the Astros and
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the Rangers were gonna get healthy. And you know, luckily
the Rangers didn't, but the Astro sure did. And they're
putting it all together right at the right time. And
unfortunately the Mariners aren't a slide at the same time.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, well, Steven Susan Junior is with us on the air,
so I mean, obviously, I think all of us agreed
that they had to make the change it manager to
see if they could salvage something out of this. And
this is no fault of Danny Wilson and God's sakes.
I mean, they're five and four with him. I mean,
obviously the big reason why they're six out is because
the Astros, as Dick said, are starting to win. They
just swept the Royals. But is it time for Jerry
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to go as well? Is it time to clean house
and just say enough is enough? Of his nine years?
Scott was first, Jerry's next. This is not working.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Yeah, you know, it stinks because you never want to
see anyone get fired. But I don't know if you
guys had caught the the article by Danny O'Neill and
the News Tribune and oh yeah, articulates kind of what
happens with Jerry. And I think if you go around
the people that interact with Jerry, and you know what
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they feel when they're around him or the conversations. There's
a very much hierarchy in a dictatorship that if you
don't agree with me, like you're going to get the
heck out of here. And you know, I think in
a help the organization, you need people to push back
and forth to say, hey, I hear that idea, but
this idea, maybe we should take a look at that,
like that's a healthy way to function inside of an organization.
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And when you kind of eliminate those thoughts for people
to say, hey, I don't know if that's the best idea,
and you kind of hang your hat on no, I
know everything and get rid of them, well then you
better be right. And so if that's the case and
these players are what he's putting on the field and
all of this is what's happened over the last three
years is his doing, then he's got to go right.
There's no one else to blame. He's eliminated all the
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people he's traded guys like ju Heenyo Swarez and Oscar
him in as a policy world, and we're sitting here
blaming Scott's service. But God can't do anything but what
the guys he's got on the field. And you know,
we've said that Jerry's done some good things right, but
for what he hasn't what he's done right, He's messed
up a lot of the clubhouse chemistry and on his
own kind of you know, shunned people down and wrecked
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a bunch of relationships. And unless you're uber talented, it's
just very very difficult to kind of overcome that kind
of culture. And I think, you know, putting Dan Wilson
at the Helm and someone who's completely opposite of that,
very likable, very you know, treats people with the utmost
value and respect, I think is the best case scenario.
But you're still gonna have Jerry there at the Helm,
and everybody's gonna know that that that's how the culture is.
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I mean, you look at the way Seeger happy with
Seger and Cameron Mayman talked about it, and I'm sure
you could ask Jay Buner about it. There's too many
people that have had bad interactions with Jerry that it's
probably time for him to go.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Just looking at what these ex Mariners are doing today's
just it's UNBELIEVABLEE. I don't know, if you've seen any
of the games today. But we're you know, we're in
the casino, so we got them all around us, and
I'm just watching ex Mariners break on every screen. Get
this Suarez three for four of the home run today,
tay Oscar five for five, Ty France four for four.
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That's twelve or fourteen. Thomas even told me Jake Frayley
was two for four today. I mean, these guys leave Seattle,
Steve and they rake. Ty Franz is hitting over three
hundred as a member of the Cincinnati Red.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
So is it.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Terrible culture that they're getting away from. Is it the
ballpark that they're getting away from? Is it bad coaching
and offensive philosophy? Is it a coll like what is
the main reason why these guys leave Seattle and start
to rake like they were before they were in Seattle?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Yeah, you know, I think it's probably a mixture of
a couple things. I think everybody can agree that although
Seattle's probably not as bad as the park expected factors
are showing this year. It isn't a hitter's park per se,
but it's not as bad as they're making it look like.
There's probably some stuff obviously that they're gonna adjust with
the batter's eye. They has been talked about that they
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have no choice. But I think ultimately you hit it
on the head, Dick. I think it's a culture thing.
I think guys get out of here and they take
a deep breath and they feel like, oh man, what
have I been in this whole time? Right? And they're
able to kind of relax and play and the managers
get the best out of them and they and they flourish,
and that's what you need. It's like when you're kind
of in Seattle. There's the suppress. There's suppression is a
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huge probably an extreme word, but there's you're fighting against
something right where it's like the players versus Jerry and
you don't want that right. And when you feel like
everybody's going towards the same direction and there's a bigger
purpose and everybody's on that bus, then it's easy to
be to play your best on the field. But if
you're not doing that, like I said, the talent better
be out of this world, like everybody better be Julio
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Rodrigan right.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well, And for me, guys, the question really isn't why
do they flourish when they leave here? The question is
what do the Mariners need to do? What does John Stanton?
What do what does Chris Larsen, the people that own
the franchise that ultimately hire these people, what do they
need to do to start getting players to perform while
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they're here? Is it time to move the fences back
and is it time to play more games with the
roof close? Is it time to change the batters? Are
they doing something wrong at their Dominican academy? Is the
is the batting cage in the wrong spot? Is their
nutrition program? You know, ass backwards? What do they need
to change? If they called you today said Steven, we
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want to start hitting the ball and scoring runs in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
What do we need to do to make that happen?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I would say you need to move away from poleside
in the air. Right, That's kind of what they've been
really bad at. They they've tried to be pull side
in the air, and where they've missed that is pull
side ground balls, and there's just nothing. There's no room
in the big leagues for hits over there. Now. The
argument against that is that, hey, that's where you're going
to hit the hardest balls. But guess what big leaguers
are really good at catching the ball, and then front
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offices and people who study where you're kind of hitting
the ball the most, they're going to position you into
a place that you're going to hit it as hard
as you can right at somebody. And so I think
getting back to using the entire field. Right, the good
players and the good teams in this league, they use
the entire field. There's a time to pull the ball.
Is it time to go the other way? Is it
time to work the ball in the middle. What is
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your mental approach with runners in scoring position and how
are you gonna stay committed to that? Right? Are you
dictating you're at bat Like the Mariners are obsessed with
not chasing, we will not chase. We're gonna control the own. Listen,
these guys are really good in the big leagues. You're
gonna chase, So why don't you dictate where you're gonna
chase so that when you actually get the pitch you want,
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we can do some damage because strikeouts, like we found
out this year, it's okay to strike out as long
as as long as there's massive production behind it, like
Gino and taoskar had, right, it's not a big deal.
It's when you have strikeouts and lack of production that
it becomes a problem. So it's an organizational philosophy shift
that I think they need to have that I think
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starts with becoming a hitter again.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
So who do you build around? I mean obviously Julio
and col but is there anybody else? I mean, is there?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
And I know JP's under contract for a couple more years,
but wait, guys, do you see anybody else that you
want to build around?
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Or is this just blow the old dang thing up
except for those couple guys.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Man, I just it pains me for this fan base
to even hear that, right, like they did that how
long ago, what was it, six years ago, seven years ago,
however long they've been here, and to say that's even
a possibility today with how good this pitching staff is,
it just it hurts. I'm more disappointed, dick with Like,
they've had this pitching staff for what three years now,
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give or take a couple of guys, But they've been
pretty dominant, and we just the ownership or Jerry or
whoever's responsible has not brought in the players to go
out offensively and help them. They've tried to thread the needle.
It just pains me to say that they have to
blow it up or even think about that. But you know,
I think Cal and Julio you keep around and you
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start to redefine who you want is your guys, right,
Like Cal's the perfect guy of he goes out there,
he grinds, he's a competitor, he takes accountability. Julio takes accoutability.
Those are the guys you want to build around. And
you know, I think it's a you figure out who's
going to stick around so that we can head in
the right direction here next year.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, Stephen, before you go, Steven susan junior with us
on the air, And I gotta be honest with you, man.
I remember when the Mariners traded Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero,
and that trade didn't really work out for either side obviously,
but there was a idea, There was a philosophy that
we are so pathetic at building offensive depth in our
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organization and so cheap when it goes out to acquiring
offense and free agency, the only thing we can do
is give up awesome what we thought was really good
young pitching to get it and now we're hearing rumors
that the Mariners may be doing the same thing, that
they may be thinking about moving a Logan Gilbert or
whoever at George Kirby, a Brian Wu a Bryce Miller
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over the offseason to get the offense that they're looking for.
And that's gonna just drive me nuts if they make
a move like that, If they do something like that,
what's your reaction going to be?
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah, it's heartbreaking. It's disappointing, right because you don't get
this kind of a pitching staff very often, you know,
I don't. In fact, I just told someone the other day,
this is a generational type of pitching staff that you're
gonna see probably never again. And so, you know, I
think they don't have any other anything else to offer.
They're gonna have to trade from that death or they're
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gonna have to trade some of their prospect capital, which
for some odd reason and the time that you're supposed
to be going for the World Series, they've been unwilling
to give up, right, And so you know, Logan's gonna
be making twelve million. They got they got a ton
of contracts they got to figure out with tolanco Mitch
Is gonna be making fourteen and I know Kirby hits arbitration,
Cal hits arbitration. Like these guys are sharding to add
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up now where you're gonna have to figure out who
you're gonna pay. And unfortunately, you know, Logan's probably the
closest to free agency, so they're probably looking at deal
in him. And you know, if you get a if
you get a bat that's an impact bat, maybe it
softens the blow a little bit, but you better you
better hit it because Logan Gilbert is a tall star, right,
and better hit right on the button. So you know,
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I hope that they keep most of this rotation intact
and you'd be able to just go spin and find
the right guys to be able to make one more run.
But if not, yeah, you're gonna have to deal from
your your best death at which is your started rotation.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Just gross.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
All right, man, Hey, we're gonna have you on four o'clock,
Is that right, Jackson? Moving forward starting next Monday. We
got football mony night football next week, so four pm
with you starting next week?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
All right, be ready?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Thus, ah, guys, thanks for the ceremony, you bet man.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Thanks for coming. Really appreciate appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Gave the flowers at the door.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Not a lot of people knew these guys, so nice
to see some folks showing up. Steven Sueza, Tony castro
Cone five forty five before the.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Jedfish Coaches Show.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
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Speaker 2 (19:05):
I'll tell you what Florida State's having a hangover right now.
They're down fourteen nothing to Boston College in Tallahassee.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Did you watch the Florida Miami game over the weekend?
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Was?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yes, I watched the end of the city. I watched
cam Ward just chew up the Gators. Yeah, then look good,
talk him smack and give the West Coast a little
by saw after the game, because you notice the Florida
defensive lineman kid named Desmond Watson who's wearing number twenty one.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Did you see him? No, he's six five, four to
fifty and he plays defensive lineman. He wears number twenty
one for the Gators and he's six foot five, four
hundred and fifty pounds. Normally a guy that's four to
fifty is like, you know, six ' ten, When this
guy's six ' five and he's four point fifty playing
defensive lineman. Talk about an immovable object for God's sake
for the Gators. But the reason why I bring it
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up because, look, there might be two pretty high profile
jobs open.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
When the year ends.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Dude ones in Florida, other ones in Clemson after Clemson
got hammered by George and I won't see what happens
as the year goes by. They did play the number
one team in college football. But there's a lot of
people think that Dabos kind of lost his touch, that
he might be kind of refusing to embrace the whole
nil thing going on. Remember when the whole nil thing
first came out, what he said about it. Remember that
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quote from Davosweeny He said, we got nil and the
Lord's name, God's name.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Remember that.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yes, so a lot of people have kind of been
mocking him for that. But there's a real chance, guys,
that those two jobs are open when the year's over.
Think about Michigan Alabama coming open one year and then
Clemson Florida the next Well, let's.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Hope Jedfish have a has a good enough season at
Washington to even contemplate one of those twos.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Well, isn't that like a real thing, though, the whole
jeed Fish to Florida thing. I mean, you asked him,
You asked him the day we had him on why
do you wear the Visor? As an homage to Steve Spurry.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
He went to Florida, He worked to Florida. I'm not
saying Florida would want him. I mean, again, what I've
heard from people is that he would have to put
up a pretty special year for Florida to have any
interest in him. But it's like when it's like when
Roy Hobbs struck out the Whammer in the Natural, And
I'm gonna drop some random movie factoids on you here.
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Barbara Hershey, Remember Barbara Hershey. She was in Hoosiers with
Gene Hackman. She was the shooter in the Natural. She
shot Roy Hobbs. In the Natural, Roy Hobbs strikes out
the Whammer and Barbara Hershey, who was with the Whammer,
looked over at Roy Hobbs and said huh, maybe I
should be with that guy over there. And she ended
up with that guy and she shot him, nearly killed
Old Roy Hobbs.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
He beats Michigan.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Jed Fish beats Michigan, and he's like six and ohero
and the antenna goes up all over the country in
a place like Florida, his his profile is going up
and up and up. Man there is I can certainly
paint a picture where Jedfish has a better year than
people think he's gonna have, and he's a hotter commodity
when the year is over than people think.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I also think that Washington, at least over the last decade,
has been a massively better program than Florida, Right, Ques
saying that request Necessarily they're a bigger brand than Florida.
But over the last ten years they have been a
massively fire program.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
But does that appeal to Jetfish? Who's got the Florida connections? Right?
I mean just some random dude, you know, like Caitlin
de Bore for example, Right, But does the pull of
Florida mean anything for jet Fish? And I got Look,
here's my question. We just got on talking twenty minutes
ago about the Super Bowl against the Patriots, Jackson and
Dick and how much we're gonna talk about this. We're
gonna just kind of respond to every little thing that
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comes up. And Dick, you're right, if somebody makes some
crazy claim, you know, Darryl Bebble says, hey man, Russell
Wilson called that play, and he said he killed me.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
If I didn't call it pass play.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
We'll probably playoff.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Of course, there's things we have to respond to.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Are we gonna respond to every little rumor that pops
up about Jetfish during the year, and every little possibility
like if like the Gators have a hard schedule, and
if they're one in four and five games from now
and Billy Napier gets fired during the sea are we
gonna just ignore that?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Are we going to talk about the possibility, Hey, Jedfish
might be one and done here?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I mean, look, I hope he's not. Hope he's here
and has success for a long time. But it's almost
impossible right to ignore that stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
It is, but I would be excited to talk about
it because that means the Huskies at that point are
yees seven and one. Maybe they have beaten Michigan. Correct,
And so you have gone from Kaylin to Boorr, who
turned this program into the second best football program in
America last year. Yeah, and totally rebuilt it. And now
you're in a position again where at that point you'd
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be a top ten or fifteen team.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
I mean that speaks to the brand of Washington football.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So I will have no problems whatsoever talking about Jedfish
potentially leaving in November if my team's sitting here at
eating too.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well, Because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I mean, for people that are pissed off of Caitlin
de Bore, maybe the reason why people are mad at
Deboor is because of the way he left and they
think he was talking to Alabama during the National champion
game and all that stuff and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Maybe that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But if Jedfish goes to UDUB and has a great
year and then leaves, which we hope doesn't happen, you
realize that there's a real good chance that Jed's gonna
bring a bunch of guys with him to Florida from Washington,
of course, and so we're doing the same thing all
over again.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
But then we're gonna get a lot of guys too.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You're looking for, right exactly, So you're looking for a
new coach to bring in new faces. How long are
we going to play this kind of game for it
before we settle on somebody?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And what does settling even look like anymore?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Honestly, quote unquote's settling on somebody is picking the guy
that wants to be here long term.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
That's probably a younger guy.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, a Ryan.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Grubb type guy. What's long term? Ryan Grubb type guys?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Long term? Four years is long term? Five years as long.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Term this era of college football, long term is anything
more than five years?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, you might be right.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I mean there's who's gonna stay at a school for
ten plus years anymore?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean there's.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Just too much upward mobility. I mean, people just want
to get People want to get to the next greatest thing.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
And what has happened is the lines are blurred between
college coaching and the NFL coaching.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Now.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
It used to be you're either a college football coach
or an NFL coach, right, And there's a few guys
that would jump back and forth. But nowadays it happens
all the time, is coordinators are everywhere in a the.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
NFL that coached in college football, it is impossible to
ignore this stuff because of how many coaches are moving
around and how many guys have laughed after a couple
of years on the job. I mean, remember how much
crap we used to give Todd Graham for just jumping
from job to job the job, and.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Now a lot of guys are doing that. Except he's crap,
of course, but you know, he was.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Kind of a pioneers, like, I'm doing this, I'm doing this,
I'm doing this, and now a lot of guys are
taking off. And I just think, after what we went
through with Kalin, it's kind of hard to just not
be stung by that and just kind of almost expect
that and talk about things like that. So look, I mean,
you want to ignore, You want to just kind of
move on and focus on the Huskies and talk about
how great the wins are and get pissed off when
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they lose games. But I just think it's see, it's
a gigantic elephant in the room.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
That is impossible to me.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
My entire outlook in college football has changed over the
last three years because I had to decide, because you
know me, I was totally anti transfer portal, right, right,
And I was anti any nil other than legitimately, you're
going to go sign autographs and we're going to pay you.
You're actually going to do some work and we're going
to pay you for that. I was anti anything other
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than that, And so I had to decide, all right,
am I just gonna push back against this tidal wave
of momentum against me? Or am I just gonna ride
the title wave of momentum and just to and just say,
you know what, this is what college football is now.
I can either fight it and be pissed off every year,
or I can just embrace it and enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Yeah, and now.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I'm embracing twenty twenty four Husky football. I'm embracing Jed
Fish and embrace forty new players or what do we have.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
On this football team?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
And I'm being a Husky fan in twenty twenty four Well,
totally completely different to be an hockey fan in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
But embracing that also means that you're aware that it
might end tomorrow and that somebody new may comings right,
and talking about it is okay. It's not taboo to
talk about things that are happening right in front of
your freaking face.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I mean, all this is happening in front of our face.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
All these coaches are getting fired, they're all leaving, they're
all quitting, they're all taking guys with them, guys are
coming in.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
This is like reality. So to ignore it, I just
think is just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
To ignore it doesn't mean that you're, you know, mad
about it, or it's a negative. It's just reality. And
reality is you never know how long a guy's gonna
be here. So week by week Baby Eastern Michigan, Saturday,
twelve thirty pre game eight thirty Tony Kasher Comball join us,
give us some thoughts on what he saw from the Dogs.
Next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Saftie and Dig Gone your home for
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three KJR FL.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Rogers loves wide O Bennet's cot touchdown Decker to Graph
first catch of his Husky career goes for six and
they couldn't have made it easier on him. He was
wide open up the right sideline Thurston goal at the
one snap hand off Coleman.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
There's the hat trick touchdown Washington.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Jonah Coleman with a three touchdown game for the Huskies
in his Washington debut and the Dogs lead Weaver State
twenty seven and nothing. Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
By the way, it was really interesting hearing Will Rodgers
today say that that play the touchdown to Decker to Graft.
They had talked about that during the week and We'll
Rogers liked to go long. He said, let's run that,
and Jedfish said, okay, maybe we have a future coordinator
on our hands. By the way, Decker de Graff at
a San Dimas High School. You know about San Dimas
High School football. Send Demons high School football, rules Baby,
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big big touchdown. That's from a movie. I'm trying to
remember which one, and a song by the Ataries I
think Send Dimas High School Football.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Tony castro Code is with us on the radio show
He Rules doing the Sideline Saturday. Got a chance to
hear the entire broadcast, and my friend, you are awesome
at what you do. Love work with you guys, you
are incredible. It was really fun to hear the broadcast
from that perspective.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Likewise, I had a lot of fun having you down
on the Penseeker sidelines, and now we've got at least
coming back this week. Looking forward to it. This is
going to be an important game for Washington.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
You know.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Obviously there's a lot at stake with the Apple Cup
and then you get into Big Ten play. But this
is a tricky opponent in Eastern Michigan this weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well before we talk about them, just give us kind
of your takeaways. Wait, you saw Saturday night from the
thirty five to three win over Web.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Yeah, Jonah Coleman is everything we thought he could be, right,
you know, one hundred and twenty seven yards and three touchdowns,
first Husky debut since nineteen sixty to hit the century mark,
and I thought Will Rogers was just kind of you know,
he looked like a veteran right really poised, highly efficient
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with football, always knew where to go with it, and
I just thought it was fun to see the offense
click the way that it did. But also that defense
was suffocating. You know, I think I had to settle
in on that opening drive and weaber State picked up
a couple first downs, missed that field goal attempt, and
then after that it was punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt.
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So I just felt like, hey, it looked the way
it's supposed to look when you play an FCS opponent,
and you know, it's not always that way. It's not
always that way. And they had two hundred and twenty
eight days to get this team recruited ready to go,
and I thought the coaching staff did a phenomenal job.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You know, Tony was sitting there in my seats and
you know, tweeting about the game, and somebody asked, Hey,
how's the crowd And I hadn't even really thought about
it up until that point, and I looked up at
the stands and I you know, put my phone up
to take a picture because I was just gonna tweet
up pictus. I was like, dang, this is this is
more full than I thought. It was good, and I
hadn't even realized until that point, what did you think?
Speaker 7 (31:00):
I thought it was great, one of the best opening
crowds I think I've seen in my time at Washington.
And you know, I think it's obviously there's a lot
of momentum for this program. They've won twenty six of
the last twenty nine games they've played in. They've got
a three year home winning streak cooking right now. It's
the third longest in college football. But also crucially importantly,
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you know, it could be a very easy time to say, well,
it's an eight o'clock game and I don't know and
you know, I don't know these players whatever. I just
think Jed Fish has done such a great job as
selling his vision for where he wants to take this
thing and then getting everybody on board and bringing people along.
And I think people really feel that, right we're getting
to know these coaches, these players, and I think this
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is a group that's gonna galvanize all of Husky Nation. Realize,
you'll get six of these things this year, right, right,
So every chance you get is important.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well, Tony's with us from the Graduate Hotel Coaches Show
at six pm with Jedfish from the Mountaineering Club. I'm
just thinking about how easy or easier your job was
a year ago when it was Fatanu, Caleppo, Brelsford, Bilow
and Rosenhosen. Over there, right tackle. Now you got this
guy going to right tackle. That guy would have left tackle.
This guy wa left guard. This guy going to right guard,
different lineman coming in. I mean, how how often is
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a broadcaster you actually have to look at the offensive
line from series to series to see if it's the
same five guys.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
You know it's new.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
But I think that's good because it's something that I
kind of have taken for granted in the past, and
now knowing that it's something that we need to follow,
I think it's good to be able to keep an eye.
I do have two different types of binoculars. I have
a super zoom and kind of normal islens, and I
had this super zoom out more often than not on
Saturday Night.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Give me the unit that impressed you the most.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
Hmmm, you know, I I thought, I'm gonna say, I
think it's not necessarily so impressed, But I just think
the defensive line looked the way that I would want
it to look in a season opening game. And that's
a young group. But you know, I knew coming into
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this game we were State was a team that liked
to run the football. They were going to try to
establish demon Bankston. Cormier's not a bad number two guy,
and they were going to try to, you know, assert themselves.
And while we've got guys up front. They had never
played together, and you know, for this group to get
six TFLs and to be back there pressuring Munyo's, I
mean they had a lot to do with Munyo's going
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eleven for thirty two in that game. I think the
defensive line really stepped up, and I'm excited. I see
guys like Lynch, I see Durfy, I see you know,
Sebastian Valdez had a really nice debut. I thought, you know,
I just think that defensive line is going to be
really exciting to watch this yere.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, I'm curious to know from Jed tonight if you
can work in it. Not that you should take my questions.
You got plenty to ask. If they're getting closer to
settling on five guys for the offensive line, or do
you think there'll be more tinkering going on this Saturday
versus Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
I can see I wouldn't be surprised if they're kind
of playing around with that unit for the next three
four games. Yeah, you know, I mean, like, look, why not, right,
you gotta they you know, they want to play a
lot of freshmen, and they've got a lot of guys
that have real high ceilings, just not a whole lot
of experience. So why not kind of mix and match
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a little bit and see who's out there able to
rise to the occasion.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I say go for.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
It, all right, you're at the Graduate Hotel Mountaineering Club.
Best view in college football coaches shows are sorry, greatest
setting in college football coaches shows.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
What do you got coming up tonight?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Men?
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Yeah, we just got jed and we're going to talk
about every nook and cranny of this team. It's gonna
be a lot of fun. Thirty five to three win
and then preview Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Little action action on Saturday at twelve thirty, pregame at
eight thirty. Of course, right here on ninety three to
three Cage I RFM. All right, man, grab a couple
of martinis for me and Dick and we'll see you.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Assume I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Good dogs, you
gotta go.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Tony Casher Cone with us on the radio show. I
thought the secondary looked pretty damn good, and the secondary
has a lot of potential. We got into it on
the pregame show about the best unit. I just think
with Elijah Jackson with Price Sock, with Jordan Shaw, all
those guys, Thatteus Dixon, that that that that group's got
the potential to be above average, no, if not even
better than that as the year goes by.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
All Right, we'll get out of here big thanks to
the Emerald Queen.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Tomorrow the Husky Hawks at four Coaches Show with Tony
and Jed from the Graduate Hotel Mountaineering Club is next
Coming to you live from the Elliott Avenue studios of
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
How are you, man?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Man?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
What a great sweep this weekend. Right, they're right in
the train, the momentums going into oaklen and here we go.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Let's live in an alternate reality. That's phenomenal. What a
great idea. Why not just create our own truth?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Why not? Well we would.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We'd like to first of all, thank you for coming today,
Steven and all the people that have gathered here at
ninety three to three KJRFM, because we have a somber
moment here on the radio program that we, by the way,
would not proceed without your permission and encouragement. So thank
you for providing the kick that opened the door to
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get this done.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
We are gathering.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Here's bid farewell the twenty twenty four Mariner playoff chances.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Let us bow our heads carry the memory of an elite.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Pitching staff that eventually left this earth as they were
flushed down the toilet of history and burnt to a
crisp by a pathetic offense, A team that left Dick
and Steve and all that are gathered here now an
indelible mark on the whole Seattle community, a mark of embarrassment,
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a scarlet letter, a stain, a scorch, a reminder always
of the stink of its ownership of a cloud the
city's baseball dreams for years to come. Scott's services name,
we say, I'm in, I'm in. Godspeed the twenty twenty
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five Seattle Maritors. As they enter the gates of mediocrity.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
They don't get to go to heaven either. I mean,
they're going someplace else.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Steve, thank you for coming. Could have not done it
without your pal.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
That was that was really something, you know. I mean,
you put that together. That's why you're the best in
the biz right there.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, we got practice doing it, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We've really done this like every other year for the
last twenty years. I mean, dude, it's over right, Like
they're six games out, they're done.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously you know it's never over.
But you know, you look at the schedule. The Astros
have that They ran through their toughest part of their
schedule with the Phillies, the Orioles and the Royals, and
they did pretty good. They didn't lose any games. In fact,
they gained a couple on the Mariners. And you know
after this Red Series they go d backed Oakland, you know, Anaheim,
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Anaheim again for four Padres Mariners, and it just does it.
I don't see the gap where the Mariner's gonna be
able to take it over unless they just start figuring
out a whole different brand of baseball to play.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
This last month, I mean I was holding soft, you know,
as I've been holding on by just a thread, without
much optimism whatsoever.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
But I was still.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Following each and every game with the hope that they
would turn around. And for me it was it was
Saturday as we were at the Husky game. I mean,
you're up in that game four to one, and your
bullpen just does what your bullpen has been doing way
too often over the last two or three months, and that.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Is just just blowing a lead.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Is that kind of the game that we can look
at and say that was it? That was all?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I agree. I mean, man, they jumped out in front, right,
they the one run lead in the second inning and
then packed on three more in the fourth, and you're thinking,
all right, you know, were able to get it to
the bullpen and put it away here with two two
haud of two wins going into Sunday and yeah, winning
in the last couple of Series two with some momentum
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and just it was just one bad mistake at a time,
and the bullpen leaves a pitch over the middle, and
you know, the runners hitters leave some runners on bait
and don't capitalize. I mean, they were one for eight
on Saturday with runners in scorn position, where it's just
like they can never push it over the edge to
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blow it open and continue to add on. And that's
just been the story of the year right there. Then
inability to hit with runners in scoring position all year long.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, I mean, look, the offense is just the same, right,
nothing's changed, and they're going to have to make a
major overhaul to a lot of different things personnel and
philosophy over the offseason. But Dick, would you say, month
by month, this is the worst month of the year
the August, Is that right?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Pitching wise? For the matters?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yes, So I wonder, Steven, are they starting to kind
of feel that a little bit?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know that they got to be maybe way too fine.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
They're just way too you know, kind of tentative with
the way they're approaching these games because they know the
offense is so bad that one mistake will kill them.
Are you're starting to see kind of a maybe a
more tentative approach by this pitching staff.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
No, I wouldn't say it's necessary tentative, but I would
say that along those lines, it's very difficult to count
on your rotation to do what they've done for you know,
five out of the six months they're they're bound to
have a bad month and be realistically human, I mean,
not all five are going to be top five in
the cy Young So they're gonna take a step back
at some point. And you know, it's in those moments
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and in those months or weeks that you hope that
the offense can kind of fill in the gaps. But
they just weren't able to do it right. This pitching
staff was historically unbelievable. So for them to fall back
just a little bit, it wasn't even like catastrophic. It
was just the worst month they had. It's very very
acceptable for them to do with how good they've been.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, I mean they fell all the way quote unquote
to Knights in Baseball in the month and up, you know,
and but what happened also while we were falling to
Night Steven, the Astros had a two five to one
e RA in August, That is a half a run
better than any other team in baseball? What the hell
happen with it just getting healthy or what else you
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see in from the Astros, because they're not only just
hitting now they're pitching too.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah. I mean, obviously they got Verlander back, and they've
always had good arms and they just can't kind of
ran into some bad stretches, right, But you know, Verlander's
not even pitching that great for them. They've just been
able to capitalize in the bullpen and hold it down.
Their bullpen's been really good in the second half of
the year with fort I think has like a one
to one and Hater's been one of the best pitchers
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in the league in the second half. And yeah, they've
just been able to piece it together in the bullpen
and hold the leads to what they've got and they're
starting pitching. You know, it's been pretty good all year long.
Obviously they were really good in August. But listen, we
knew this was going to happen. We talked about it
back in May that if the Mariners didn't gain enough
ground and keep it going, that eventually the Astros and
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the Rangers were gonna get healthy. And you know, luckily
the Rangers didn't, but the Astro sure did. And they're
putting it all together right at the right time. And
unfortunately the Mariners aren't a slide at the same time.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, well, Steven Susan Junior is with us on the air,
so I mean, obviously, I think all of us agreed
that they had to make the change it manager to
see if they could salvage something out of this. And
this is no fault of Danny Wilson and God's sakes.
I mean, they're five and four with him. I mean,
obviously the big reason why they're six out is because
the Astros, as Dick said, are starting to win. They
just swept the Royals. But is it time for Jerry
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to go as well? Is it time to clean house
and just say enough is enough? Of his nine years?
Scott was first, Jerry's next. This is not working.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Yeah, you know, it stinks because you never want to
see anyone get fired. But I don't know if you
guys had caught the the article by Danny O'Neill and
the News Tribune and oh yeah, articulates kind of what
happens with Jerry. And I think if you go around
the people that interact with Jerry, and you know what
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they feel when they're around him or the conversations. There's
a very much hierarchy in a dictatorship that if you
don't agree with me, like you're going to get the
heck out of here. And you know, I think in
a help the organization, you need people to push back
and forth to say, hey, I hear that idea, but
this idea, maybe we should take a look at that,
like that's a healthy way to function inside of an organization.
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And when you kind of eliminate those thoughts for people
to say, hey, I don't know if that's the best idea,
and you kind of hang your hat on no, I
know everything and get rid of them, well then you
better be right. And so if that's the case and
these players are what he's putting on the field and
all of this is what's happened over the last three
years is his doing, then he's got to go right.
There's no one else to blame. He's eliminated all the
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people he's traded guys like ju Heenyo Swarez and Oscar
him in as a policy world, and we're sitting here
blaming Scott's service. But God can't do anything but what
the guys he's got on the field. And you know,
we've said that Jerry's done some good things right, but
for what he hasn't what he's done right, He's messed
up a lot of the clubhouse chemistry and on his
own kind of you know, shunned people down and wrecked
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a bunch of relationships. And unless you're uber talented, it's
just very very difficult to kind of overcome that kind
of culture. And I think, you know, putting Dan Wilson
at the Helm and someone who's completely opposite of that,
very likable, very you know, treats people with the utmost
value and respect, I think is the best case scenario.
But you're still gonna have Jerry there at the Helm,
and everybody's gonna know that that that's how the culture is.
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I mean, you look at the way Seeger happy with
Seger and Cameron Mayman talked about it, and I'm sure
you could ask Jay Buner about it. There's too many
people that have had bad interactions with Jerry that it's
probably time for him to go.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Just looking at what these ex Mariners are doing today's
just it's UNBELIEVABLEE. I don't know, if you've seen any
of the games today. But we're you know, we're in
the casino, so we got them all around us, and
I'm just watching ex Mariners break on every screen. Get
this Suarez three for four of the home run today,
tay Oscar five for five, Ty France four for four.
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That's twelve or fourteen. Thomas even told me Jake Frayley
was two for four today. I mean, these guys leave Seattle,
Steve and they rake. Ty Franz is hitting over three
hundred as a member of the Cincinnati Red.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
So is it.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Terrible culture that they're getting away from. Is it the
ballpark that they're getting away from? Is it bad coaching
and offensive philosophy? Is it a coll like what is
the main reason why these guys leave Seattle and start
to rake like they were before they were in Seattle?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Yeah, you know, I think it's probably a mixture of
a couple things. I think everybody can agree that although
Seattle's probably not as bad as the park expected factors
are showing this year. It isn't a hitter's park per se,
but it's not as bad as they're making it look like.
There's probably some stuff obviously that they're gonna adjust with
the batter's eye. They has been talked about that they
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have no choice. But I think ultimately you hit it
on the head, Dick. I think it's a culture thing.
I think guys get out of here and they take
a deep breath and they feel like, oh man, what
have I been in this whole time? Right? And they're
able to kind of relax and play and the managers
get the best out of them and they and they flourish,
and that's what you need. It's like when you're kind
of in Seattle. There's the suppress. There's suppression is a
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huge probably an extreme word, but there's you're fighting against
something right where it's like the players versus Jerry and
you don't want that right. And when you feel like
everybody's going towards the same direction and there's a bigger
purpose and everybody's on that bus, then it's easy to
be to play your best on the field. But if
you're not doing that, like I said, the talent better
be out of this world, like everybody better be Julio
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Rodrigan right.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well, And for me, guys, the question really isn't why
do they flourish when they leave here? The question is
what do the Mariners need to do? What does John Stanton?
What do what does Chris Larsen, the people that own
the franchise that ultimately hire these people, what do they
need to do to start getting players to perform while
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they're here? Is it time to move the fences back
and is it time to play more games with the
roof close? Is it time to change the batters? Are
they doing something wrong at their Dominican academy? Is the
is the batting cage in the wrong spot? Is their
nutrition program? You know, ass backwards? What do they need
to change? If they called you today said Steven, we
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want to start hitting the ball and scoring runs in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
What do we need to do to make that happen?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I would say you need to move away from poleside
in the air. Right, That's kind of what they've been
really bad at. They they've tried to be pull side
in the air, and where they've missed that is pull
side ground balls, and there's just nothing. There's no room
in the big leagues for hits over there. Now. The
argument against that is that, hey, that's where you're going
to hit the hardest balls. But guess what big leaguers
are really good at catching the ball, and then front
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offices and people who study where you're kind of hitting
the ball the most, they're going to position you into
a place that you're going to hit it as hard
as you can right at somebody. And so I think
getting back to using the entire field. Right, the good
players and the good teams in this league, they use
the entire field. There's a time to pull the ball.
Is it time to go the other way? Is it
time to work the ball in the middle. What is
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your mental approach with runners in scoring position and how
are you gonna stay committed to that? Right? Are you
dictating you're at bat Like the Mariners are obsessed with
not chasing, we will not chase. We're gonna control the own. Listen,
these guys are really good in the big leagues. You're
gonna chase, So why don't you dictate where you're gonna
chase so that when you actually get the pitch you want,
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we can do some damage because strikeouts, like we found
out this year, it's okay to strike out as long
as as long as there's massive production behind it, like
Gino and taoskar had, right, it's not a big deal.
It's when you have strikeouts and lack of production that
it becomes a problem. So it's an organizational philosophy shift
that I think they need to have that I think
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starts with becoming a hitter again.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
So who do you build around? I mean obviously Julio
and col but is there anybody else? I mean, is there?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
And I know JP's under contract for a couple more years,
but wait, guys, do you see anybody else that you
want to build around?
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Or is this just blow the old dang thing up
except for those couple guys.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Man, I just it pains me for this fan base
to even hear that, right, like they did that how
long ago, what was it, six years ago, seven years ago,
however long they've been here, and to say that's even
a possibility today with how good this pitching staff is,
it just it hurts. I'm more disappointed, dick with Like,
they've had this pitching staff for what three years now,
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give or take a couple of guys, But they've been
pretty dominant, and we just the ownership or Jerry or
whoever's responsible has not brought in the players to go
out offensively and help them. They've tried to thread the needle.
It just pains me to say that they have to
blow it up or even think about that. But you know,
I think Cal and Julio you keep around and you
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start to redefine who you want is your guys, right,
Like Cal's the perfect guy of he goes out there,
he grinds, he's a competitor, he takes accountability. Julio takes accoutability.
Those are the guys you want to build around. And
you know, I think it's a you figure out who's
going to stick around so that we can head in
the right direction here next year.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, Stephen, before you go, Steven susan junior with us
on the air, And I gotta be honest with you, man.
I remember when the Mariners traded Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero,
and that trade didn't really work out for either side obviously,
but there was a idea, There was a philosophy that
we are so pathetic at building offensive depth in our
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organization and so cheap when it goes out to acquiring
offense and free agency, the only thing we can do
is give up awesome what we thought was really good
young pitching to get it and now we're hearing rumors
that the Mariners may be doing the same thing, that
they may be thinking about moving a Logan Gilbert or
whoever at George Kirby, a Brian Wu a Bryce Miller
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over the offseason to get the offense that they're looking for.
And that's gonna just drive me nuts if they make
a move like that, If they do something like that,
what's your reaction going to be?
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah, it's heartbreaking. It's disappointing, right because you don't get
this kind of a pitching staff very often, you know,
I don't. In fact, I just told someone the other day,
this is a generational type of pitching staff that you're
gonna see probably never again. And so, you know, I
think they don't have any other anything else to offer.
They're gonna have to trade from that death or they're
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gonna have to trade some of their prospect capital, which
for some odd reason and the time that you're supposed
to be going for the World Series, they've been unwilling
to give up, right, And so you know, Logan's gonna
be making twelve million. They got they got a ton
of contracts they got to figure out with tolanco Mitch
Is gonna be making fourteen and I know Kirby hits arbitration,
Cal hits arbitration. Like these guys are sharding to add
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up now where you're gonna have to figure out who
you're gonna pay. And unfortunately, you know, Logan's probably the
closest to free agency, so they're probably looking at deal
in him. And you know, if you get a if
you get a bat that's an impact bat, maybe it
softens the blow a little bit, but you better you
better hit it because Logan Gilbert is a tall star, right,
and better hit right on the button. So you know,
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I hope that they keep most of this rotation intact
and you'd be able to just go spin and find
the right guys to be able to make one more run.
But if not, yeah, you're gonna have to deal from
your your best death at which is your started rotation.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Just gross.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
All right, man, Hey, we're gonna have you on four o'clock,
Is that right, Jackson? Moving forward starting next Monday. We
got football mony night football next week, so four pm
with you starting next week?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
All right, be ready?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Thus, ah, guys, thanks for the ceremony, you bet man.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Thanks for coming. Really appreciate appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Gave the flowers at the door.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Not a lot of people knew these guys, so nice
to see some folks showing up. Steven Sueza, Tony castro
Cone five forty five before the.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Jedfish Coaches Show.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Excuse me, that's six on ninety three to three KJRFMM from.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
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Speaker 2 (19:05):
I'll tell you what Florida State's having a hangover right now.
They're down fourteen nothing to Boston College in Tallahassee.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Did you watch the Florida Miami game over the weekend?
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Was?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yes, I watched the end of the city. I watched
cam Ward just chew up the Gators. Yeah, then look good,
talk him smack and give the West Coast a little
by saw after the game, because you notice the Florida
defensive lineman kid named Desmond Watson who's wearing number twenty one.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Did you see him? No, he's six five, four to
fifty and he plays defensive lineman. He wears number twenty
one for the Gators and he's six foot five, four
hundred and fifty pounds. Normally a guy that's four to
fifty is like, you know, six ' ten, When this
guy's six ' five and he's four point fifty playing
defensive lineman. Talk about an immovable object for God's sake
for the Gators. But the reason why I bring it
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up because, look, there might be two pretty high profile
jobs open.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
When the year ends.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Dude ones in Florida, other ones in Clemson after Clemson
got hammered by George and I won't see what happens
as the year goes by. They did play the number
one team in college football. But there's a lot of
people think that Dabos kind of lost his touch, that
he might be kind of refusing to embrace the whole
nil thing going on. Remember when the whole nil thing
first came out, what he said about it. Remember that
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quote from Davosweeny He said, we got nil and the
Lord's name, God's name.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Remember that.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yes, so a lot of people have kind of been
mocking him for that. But there's a real chance, guys,
that those two jobs are open when the year's over.
Think about Michigan Alabama coming open one year and then
Clemson Florida the next Well, let's.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Hope Jedfish have a has a good enough season at
Washington to even contemplate one of those twos.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Well, isn't that like a real thing, though, the whole
jeed Fish to Florida thing. I mean, you asked him,
You asked him the day we had him on why
do you wear the Visor? As an homage to Steve Spurry.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
He went to Florida, He worked to Florida. I'm not
saying Florida would want him. I mean, again, what I've
heard from people is that he would have to put
up a pretty special year for Florida to have any
interest in him. But it's like when it's like when
Roy Hobbs struck out the Whammer in the Natural, And
I'm gonna drop some random movie factoids on you here.
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Barbara Hershey, Remember Barbara Hershey. She was in Hoosiers with
Gene Hackman. She was the shooter in the Natural. She
shot Roy Hobbs. In the Natural, Roy Hobbs strikes out
the Whammer and Barbara Hershey, who was with the Whammer,
looked over at Roy Hobbs and said huh, maybe I
should be with that guy over there. And she ended
up with that guy and she shot him, nearly killed
Old Roy Hobbs.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
He beats Michigan.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Jed Fish beats Michigan, and he's like six and ohero
and the antenna goes up all over the country in
a place like Florida, his his profile is going up
and up and up. Man there is I can certainly
paint a picture where Jedfish has a better year than
people think he's gonna have, and he's a hotter commodity
when the year is over than people think.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I also think that Washington, at least over the last decade,
has been a massively better program than Florida, Right, Ques
saying that request Necessarily they're a bigger brand than Florida.
But over the last ten years they have been a
massively fire program.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
But does that appeal to Jetfish? Who's got the Florida connections? Right?
I mean just some random dude, you know, like Caitlin
de Bore for example, Right, But does the pull of
Florida mean anything for jet Fish? And I got Look,
here's my question. We just got on talking twenty minutes
ago about the Super Bowl against the Patriots, Jackson and
Dick and how much we're gonna talk about this. We're
gonna just kind of respond to every little thing that
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comes up. And Dick, you're right, if somebody makes some
crazy claim, you know, Darryl Bebble says, hey man, Russell
Wilson called that play, and he said he killed me.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
If I didn't call it pass play.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
We'll probably playoff.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Of course, there's things we have to respond to.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Are we gonna respond to every little rumor that pops
up about Jetfish during the year, and every little possibility
like if like the Gators have a hard schedule, and
if they're one in four and five games from now
and Billy Napier gets fired during the sea are we
gonna just ignore that?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Are we going to talk about the possibility, Hey, Jedfish
might be one and done here?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I mean, look, I hope he's not. Hope he's here
and has success for a long time. But it's almost
impossible right to ignore that stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
It is, but I would be excited to talk about
it because that means the Huskies at that point are
yees seven and one. Maybe they have beaten Michigan. Correct,
And so you have gone from Kaylin to Boorr, who
turned this program into the second best football program in
America last year. Yeah, and totally rebuilt it. And now
you're in a position again where at that point you'd
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be a top ten or fifteen team.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
I mean that speaks to the brand of Washington football.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So I will have no problems whatsoever talking about Jedfish
potentially leaving in November if my team's sitting here at
eating too.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well, Because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I mean, for people that are pissed off of Caitlin
de Bore, maybe the reason why people are mad at
Deboor is because of the way he left and they
think he was talking to Alabama during the National champion
game and all that stuff and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Maybe that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But if Jedfish goes to UDUB and has a great
year and then leaves, which we hope doesn't happen, you
realize that there's a real good chance that Jed's gonna
bring a bunch of guys with him to Florida from Washington,
of course, and so we're doing the same thing all
over again.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
But then we're gonna get a lot of guys too.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You're looking for, right exactly, So you're looking for a
new coach to bring in new faces. How long are
we going to play this kind of game for it
before we settle on somebody?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And what does settling even look like anymore?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Honestly, quote unquote's settling on somebody is picking the guy
that wants to be here long term.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
That's probably a younger guy.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, a Ryan.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Grubb type guy. What's long term? Ryan Grubb type guys?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Long term? Four years is long term? Five years as long.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Term this era of college football, long term is anything
more than five years?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, you might be right.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I mean there's who's gonna stay at a school for
ten plus years anymore?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean there's.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Just too much upward mobility. I mean, people just want
to get People want to get to the next greatest thing.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
And what has happened is the lines are blurred between
college coaching and the NFL coaching.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Now.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
It used to be you're either a college football coach
or an NFL coach, right, And there's a few guys
that would jump back and forth. But nowadays it happens
all the time, is coordinators are everywhere in a the.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
NFL that coached in college football, it is impossible to
ignore this stuff because of how many coaches are moving
around and how many guys have laughed after a couple
of years on the job. I mean, remember how much
crap we used to give Todd Graham for just jumping
from job to job the job, and.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Now a lot of guys are doing that. Except he's crap,
of course, but you know, he was.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Kind of a pioneers, like, I'm doing this, I'm doing this,
I'm doing this, and now a lot of guys are
taking off. And I just think, after what we went
through with Kalin, it's kind of hard to just not
be stung by that and just kind of almost expect
that and talk about things like that. So look, I mean,
you want to ignore, You want to just kind of
move on and focus on the Huskies and talk about
how great the wins are and get pissed off when
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they lose games. But I just think it's see, it's
a gigantic elephant in the room.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
That is impossible to me.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
My entire outlook in college football has changed over the
last three years because I had to decide, because you
know me, I was totally anti transfer portal, right, right,
And I was anti any nil other than legitimately, you're
going to go sign autographs and we're going to pay you.
You're actually going to do some work and we're going
to pay you for that. I was anti anything other
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than that, And so I had to decide, all right,
am I just gonna push back against this tidal wave
of momentum against me? Or am I just gonna ride
the title wave of momentum and just to and just say,
you know what, this is what college football is now.
I can either fight it and be pissed off every year,
or I can just embrace it and enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Yeah, and now.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I'm embracing twenty twenty four Husky football. I'm embracing Jed
Fish and embrace forty new players or what do we have.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
On this football team?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
And I'm being a Husky fan in twenty twenty four Well,
totally completely different to be an hockey fan in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
But embracing that also means that you're aware that it
might end tomorrow and that somebody new may comings right,
and talking about it is okay. It's not taboo to
talk about things that are happening right in front of
your freaking face.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I mean, all this is happening in front of our face.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
All these coaches are getting fired, they're all leaving, they're
all quitting, they're all taking guys with them, guys are
coming in.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
This is like reality. So to ignore it, I just
think is just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
To ignore it doesn't mean that you're, you know, mad
about it, or it's a negative. It's just reality. And
reality is you never know how long a guy's gonna
be here. So week by week Baby Eastern Michigan, Saturday,
twelve thirty pre game eight thirty Tony Kasher Comball join us,
give us some thoughts on what he saw from the Dogs.
Next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Saftie and Dig Gone your home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR FL.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Rogers loves wide O Bennet's cot touchdown Decker to Graph
first catch of his Husky career goes for six and
they couldn't have made it easier on him. He was
wide open up the right sideline Thurston goal at the
one snap hand off Coleman.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
There's the hat trick touchdown Washington.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Jonah Coleman with a three touchdown game for the Huskies
in his Washington debut and the Dogs lead Weaver State
twenty seven and nothing. Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
By the way, it was really interesting hearing Will Rodgers
today say that that play the touchdown to Decker to Graft.
They had talked about that during the week and We'll
Rogers liked to go long. He said, let's run that,
and Jedfish said, okay, maybe we have a future coordinator
on our hands. By the way, Decker de Graff at
a San Dimas High School. You know about San Dimas
High School football. Send Demons high School football, rules Baby,
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big big touchdown. That's from a movie. I'm trying to
remember which one, and a song by the Ataries I
think Send Dimas High School Football.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Tony castro Code is with us on the radio show
He Rules doing the Sideline Saturday. Got a chance to
hear the entire broadcast, and my friend, you are awesome
at what you do. Love work with you guys, you
are incredible. It was really fun to hear the broadcast
from that perspective.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Likewise, I had a lot of fun having you down
on the Penseeker sidelines, and now we've got at least
coming back this week. Looking forward to it. This is
going to be an important game for Washington.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
You know.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Obviously there's a lot at stake with the Apple Cup
and then you get into Big Ten play. But this
is a tricky opponent in Eastern Michigan this weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well before we talk about them, just give us kind
of your takeaways. Wait, you saw Saturday night from the
thirty five to three win over Web.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Yeah, Jonah Coleman is everything we thought he could be, right,
you know, one hundred and twenty seven yards and three touchdowns,
first Husky debut since nineteen sixty to hit the century mark,
and I thought Will Rogers was just kind of you know,
he looked like a veteran right really poised, highly efficient
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with football, always knew where to go with it, and
I just thought it was fun to see the offense
click the way that it did. But also that defense
was suffocating. You know, I think I had to settle
in on that opening drive and weaber State picked up
a couple first downs, missed that field goal attempt, and
then after that it was punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt.
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So I just felt like, hey, it looked the way
it's supposed to look when you play an FCS opponent,
and you know, it's not always that way. It's not
always that way. And they had two hundred and twenty
eight days to get this team recruited ready to go,
and I thought the coaching staff did a phenomenal job.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You know, Tony was sitting there in my seats and
you know, tweeting about the game, and somebody asked, Hey,
how's the crowd And I hadn't even really thought about
it up until that point, and I looked up at
the stands and I you know, put my phone up
to take a picture because I was just gonna tweet
up pictus. I was like, dang, this is this is
more full than I thought. It was good, and I
hadn't even realized until that point, what did you think?
Speaker 7 (31:00):
I thought it was great, one of the best opening
crowds I think I've seen in my time at Washington.
And you know, I think it's obviously there's a lot
of momentum for this program. They've won twenty six of
the last twenty nine games they've played in. They've got
a three year home winning streak cooking right now. It's
the third longest in college football. But also crucially importantly,
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you know, it could be a very easy time to say, well,
it's an eight o'clock game and I don't know and
you know, I don't know these players whatever. I just
think Jed Fish has done such a great job as
selling his vision for where he wants to take this
thing and then getting everybody on board and bringing people along.
And I think people really feel that, right we're getting
to know these coaches, these players, and I think this
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is a group that's gonna galvanize all of Husky Nation. Realize,
you'll get six of these things this year, right, right,
So every chance you get is important.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well, Tony's with us from the Graduate Hotel Coaches Show
at six pm with Jedfish from the Mountaineering Club. I'm
just thinking about how easy or easier your job was
a year ago when it was Fatanu, Caleppo, Brelsford, Bilow
and Rosenhosen. Over there, right tackle. Now you got this
guy going to right tackle. That guy would have left tackle.
This guy wa left guard. This guy going to right guard,
different lineman coming in. I mean, how how often is
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a broadcaster you actually have to look at the offensive
line from series to series to see if it's the
same five guys.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
You know it's new.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
But I think that's good because it's something that I
kind of have taken for granted in the past, and
now knowing that it's something that we need to follow,
I think it's good to be able to keep an eye.
I do have two different types of binoculars. I have
a super zoom and kind of normal islens, and I
had this super zoom out more often than not on
Saturday Night.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Give me the unit that impressed you the most.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
Hmmm, you know, I I thought, I'm gonna say, I
think it's not necessarily so impressed, But I just think
the defensive line looked the way that I would want
it to look in a season opening game. And that's
a young group. But you know, I knew coming into
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this game we were State was a team that liked
to run the football. They were going to try to
establish demon Bankston. Cormier's not a bad number two guy,
and they were going to try to, you know, assert themselves.
And while we've got guys up front. They had never
played together, and you know, for this group to get
six TFLs and to be back there pressuring Munyo's, I
mean they had a lot to do with Munyo's going
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eleven for thirty two in that game. I think the
defensive line really stepped up, and I'm excited. I see
guys like Lynch, I see Durfy, I see you know,
Sebastian Valdez had a really nice debut. I thought, you know,
I just think that defensive line is going to be
really exciting to watch this yere.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, I'm curious to know from Jed tonight if you
can work in it. Not that you should take my questions.
You got plenty to ask. If they're getting closer to
settling on five guys for the offensive line, or do
you think there'll be more tinkering going on this Saturday
versus Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
I can see I wouldn't be surprised if they're kind
of playing around with that unit for the next three
four games. Yeah, you know, I mean, like, look, why not, right,
you gotta they you know, they want to play a
lot of freshmen, and they've got a lot of guys
that have real high ceilings, just not a whole lot
of experience. So why not kind of mix and match
(34:23):
a little bit and see who's out there able to
rise to the occasion.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I say go for.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
It, all right, you're at the Graduate Hotel Mountaineering Club.
Best view in college football coaches shows are sorry, greatest
setting in college football coaches shows.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
What do you got coming up tonight?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Men?
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Yeah, we just got jed and we're going to talk
about every nook and cranny of this team. It's gonna
be a lot of fun. Thirty five to three win
and then preview Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Little action action on Saturday at twelve thirty, pregame at
eight thirty. Of course, right here on ninety three to
three Cage I RFM. All right, man, grab a couple
of martinis for me and Dick and we'll see you.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Assume I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Good dogs, you
gotta go.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Tony Casher Cone with us on the radio show. I
thought the secondary looked pretty damn good, and the secondary
has a lot of potential. We got into it on
the pregame show about the best unit. I just think
with Elijah Jackson with Price Sock, with Jordan Shaw, all
those guys, Thatteus Dixon, that that that that group's got
the potential to be above average, no, if not even
better than that as the year goes by.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
All Right, we'll get out of here big thanks to
the Emerald Queen.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Tomorrow the Husky Hawks at four Coaches Show with Tony
and Jed from the Graduate Hotel Mountaineering Club is next
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