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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's roll into the four o'clock hour. Yes,
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Christmas time. Jackson's got the Hits being played right now.
Hugh Millen joining us till seven tonight, but right now.
We talked to our friend Jerry Brewer, who was with
us on a weekly basis in the summertime.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We hope to do it again this year.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I guess, I guess my people just have to talk
to Jerry's people so we can make that happen again.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That hasn't happened yet. But Jerry, how you doing, man?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm doing great, man. It's good to hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Absolutely, it's great to have you on again.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And you know, let's start with let's pick up basically
on the promo we just heard from me, and I
think he put it really six succinctly in the promo.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
He's got running right now.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I mean, this is a Seahawks football team that it's
tough for any of us to make out what they
actually are because there are some games that you just
leave going what the heck was that I e.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
The Giants, i E. The Jets game, even though they won.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You were just like what in the world. And then
at times it's the Atlanta game. It's the Arizona game
from this last week where you're like, man, they they're
just a complete football team on both sides. What is
the Seahawks team in your mind?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
They're a team that's becoming, you know, under a first
year coach, you know, a bunch of first year coordinators
learning a different way of doing things. I think it's
starting to take hold. Not surprised that they're streaky. I
mean at three and oh, I was thinking, oh, well,
maybe this thing is going to be a guaranteed eleven wins,
and then they lose five out of six and then
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now they've come back to life in a big way.
I think what we've seen the past month is a
good indicator of where they're going to be, you know,
moving forward. But now they got this difficult task of
finishing Rams have already beaten them once. It doesn't look
like they're going to be clear of the Rams to
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render that that that game you know, at the end
of the season irrelevant. So does seem like we're headed
in this direction where that last game is going to
be for the division and you know that's a little
bit scary. Uh And hopefully there's still some wiggle room
where maybe like the number seven seed, it's still an option.
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But you know you're sitting there eight and five, you
got you got a month left. Uh, they really need
to go get it. And I think we're going to
learn the next two weeks exactly how much this team
has improved because they're playing you know, two real you know,
big dogs in the NFC.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Indeed, they are in Jerry Brewery, is Terry if you
were writing to call them Seahawk related for the Sunday
or or this weekend prior to the game, what what's
top of mind for you? What it would it be,
you know, maybe about this game. Maybe it's about Geno
contract situation. Maybe it's more of a big picture, maybe
it's a micro this weekend. Just what what would be
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the source of uh your the top topic for your calm?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, I think it would be more big picture, right
like that? This this set of home games, you know
against the Packers and Vikings. Uh, this is different than
a diminished forty nine Ers team, alien, different than an
up and down Cardinals team, different from a lost Jets team,
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you know, different, different from you know, you know having
the facto home game you know in Arizona and finishing
off the Cardinals. So you know, this is this is there.
I look at it like this, Hugh, this is their
time to show that they're a good football team against
the backdrop of this is your opportunity to show the
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fans who have very much been in kind of a
proven state, you know, like the I mean, the Rabbit
fans are the Rabbit fans. But Loomenfield is not jumping
like it should be jumping. It's jumping like uh, like
a like a place that was spoiled for a long
time and is trying to figure out whether they can
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like invest their heart in this thing again with just
the fury that we know that they have. And so
I think this is like, you know, it's it's perception changing.
I think for this entire many rebuild or whatever word
you want to use for what they're doing under McDonald.
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And I think that as good as the Packers and
the Vikings have been this year, these are two teams
that aren't going to run away from you. It would
be very disappointing if it were like a Buffalo Bills
like out from you know, against either one of these
teams and at home, you know, I mean you're hoping
for one and one, but you know, I'd like to
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see them sweep these two.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Games, absolutely, And you know, I'm one of those rabid fans,
and yet they still got to prove it to me.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I still don't know that they're they're a great team
at all.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Jerry Brewer joining us the national sports columnists from the
Washington Post, and you know, Hugh alluded to the Gino situation.
I'd love to get your thoughts on that, because you know,
where were you at the beginning of the season on
giving Gino a new contract and which direction have you
moved in that sense.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I'm not sure that I've moved anywhere. Like I'm still
trying to trying to figure this out, and you're still
feeling out obviously this being year one with Ryan Grubb,
you know what he wants to do, like how he's
vibing with Gino, how he's learning the pro game. The
offensive line was in such disarray at the start of
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the year. It's almost like you have to grade on
this weird curve, both the OC and the quarterback. And
now that they have a little bit of momentum, maybe
we'll have a better indication. You know, I love this
game on because you know they're playing a fifty million
dollar quarterback and a guy who you know when you
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put when you go side by side and you have
a matchup like this. The seafk defense just can't win
this game. Just balling out like they have recently, like
Jordan Love and that offense and Matt Leafloyd. They're gonna
find ways to score points and do some things and
it's gonna be incumbent on the Seahawks. The Seahawks offense
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to put twenty four points at least on the board,
I think to win this game.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Jerry Brewer with us and Jerry, let's let's switch to
probably the topic of the week.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
You're not far from there regionally. I know you have
big thoughts on the whole overall structure and the changes
in college football, college sports, and now Bill Belichick he
decides to, you know, just plan himself right in the
middle of all that. What was your reaction to the
news of Belichick in North Carolina this week?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, we had a little bit of a of a
of a runway Hugh Right to be like, man, is
this gonna happen? Is this really going to happen? And
think about it. Like my first reaction when it started
to bubble up that he was meeting with the chancellor,
it was like, ah, you know, like he's just doing
this to get get some NFL teams out of the
woodwork and see if if anybody wants them. And then
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once it got real, you know, I look at it
and I say, like, this is this is going to
be like a real indication of where we are, uh
in college football in general. And I think like it's
more revelatory for the sport itself than it is for
the coach. Uh. Do I know what Bill Belichick is
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going to do? No? Do? I think like there are
very much ways And I think the a SEC plays eight,
they still want who plays eight conference games?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I'm not sure they are.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Even if they play nine. Uh, you can manipulate your
schedule in such a way that you know you have
seven wins. And I mean the ACC, like I wish
we'd stop calling it power for guys. We have a
super two conference setup. That's right, you know that the
we can we have to stop acting like the ACC
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and this revised Big twelve are the same as the
SEC and the Big ten. It's not even close. Week
to week. And so I'm saying that because you know
Mac Brown, who is just you know, recruiting and goofing off,
and the game has really passed him by. Uh, he
was able to get eight wins most years out of
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those North Carolina teams, and that wasn't good enough, right.
I think Bill Belichick is a safe bet to have
if he wants to do this for four or five years,
to you know, go eight and four, eight and five
most years. The question is like, what what's his ceiling?
What can he do as a college coacher? And can
he win the acc Does he have some tenancy seasons
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in him? Is he going to be happy? Is he
going to be one of these guys who he's got
forty new players every year and and it's kind of mutual,
like they want to get away from him and he
hates them. Like all those things are to be determined. Uh,
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the coaching part of college football, I think he will
adjust to and be perfectly fine. We know how good
he is at coaching, We know how good he is
at adjusting to the personnel that he has and just
teaching the game. All the other stuff which how much
of college football is purely coaching your football team, and
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how much of it is managing the other stuff, whether
it be n I l re, recruiting your players, dealing
with boosters, being you know, the public faith of like
an entire organization, right, Like there's no Robert Kraft, you know,
chumming it up with the media so that you can
just mumble three or four words in college football? Like,
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how does he deal with all of that? Is fascinating,
you know. I'm I'm glad he did it because, like
I think it's going to be the most compelling, you know, story,
and it really mixes some things up in the sport,
and I just I can't wait to see what kind
of talent he gets and what he does well.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Jerry, to your point on the Super two instead of
the power for I totally agree with one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And that's why I was a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Hey, I got no love for Alabama, but I was
a little bit taken aback by the decision to have
SMU going to the playoffs against Alabama. I Mean, nobody
in the right mind would think that SMU is actually
a better football team than Alabama, but some thought that
they had a better, better resume simply because they played
an easier schedule and had one less win. So what
needs what needs changing? Is it simply give the Big
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ten champ in the SEC champ the only buy spots
or I mean, do you just eliminate.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Buys all together? How or do you recede? What would
what would eliminate.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What we have now, which is like Arizona State and
Boise State getting a buy in the first round.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, I don't I don't think that, uh, conference champion,
I mean the automatic bid for the top the you know,
the five top conferences, Like that's enough. I don't think
you need to double reward every conference champion when you
have two conferences that are just head and shoulders and like,
not only two conferences, I mean, these are thirty four teams, right,
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Like we used to think of conferences as ten or
twelve teams. Right, You've got thirty four teams. I mean
that's that's what uh you know, twenty percent of college football? Right?
So uh yeah, I think you should just do a
truth seating. And if you do a true seating, I
think I wrote a column this week kind of breaking
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that down. In Texas and Penn State would have been
the three and four seeds, so it would have been
all all SEC Big ten, and so be it right, Like,
I mean, I think there are years when a dominant
Clemson team or a Miami team if they had had
gone and done what they were supposed to do and
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run the table in the ACC, or on occasion, maybe
a really dominant Big twelve team if you can still
create that, or Boise if boys had beaten Oregon. Yeah,
I mean there are scenarios I think where somebody can
break into the buy one of those four bys, right,
But I don't think you can automatically do this thing right. Like,
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the most laughable thing I thought in this whole thing was,
you know, all of a sudden, like Clemson back doors
its way in and they are absolutely should be the
twelve seed. But what was Davo doing, you know, minutes
before or the whole announcement when we won the ACC.
We should get one of those buys exactly. To have
a system where we have to even like give consideration
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to Clemson possibly being a bye, it's just an absolute joke.
So I think just truly seeding the field like you
do in the NCAA basketball tournaments would solve.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
A lot of that Jerry brewce list And Jerry, let's
say you were on the committee and there was an
odd number on the committee and it was the other
remainders were absolutely divided on who should have been the
twelfth team, and you're the now the deciding on vote.
So whatever you submit, that's who's going in at number twelve. Now,
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is it Alabama, is it SMU or is it a
unnamed third team? In Jerry Brewer's mind, how would have
you solved that and settled that dispute?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
It would have been SMU for me, And I'm thick.
I'm judging, you know, a resume and also common sense
and what I want to reward and what I want
to punish. Do I think that if if you line
SMU and Alabama up and they played each other, with
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Alabama probably win. Yes, you know, but that's too much
of like a you know, I don't know that it
automatically has to come down to that. You know, I
still look at an Alabama team, even though they had
those tremendous highs with with what three top twenty five
wins and that crazy uh holding on and won that
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crazy game against Georgia. You know, I'm still docking them
and saying, look, you had a lot of chances to
get in this thing. You lost the Vandy. Vandy went
on and went six and six. Then at the very
end of the year, you just straight up no showed
in Oklahoma against a really, really bad Oklahoma team and
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they only scored three points in that game. And maybe
it would have changed my mind. He looked at that
game was like thirty seven thirty one, and your defense
didn't play well. But just to only have a field
goal in that game, you know, I just it's it's
the weakest Alabama team we've seen in quite a long time.
They were very fortunate last year and Nick Sabans last
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year to get that fourth spot over Florida State because
of Florida State's injuries. That was the right call. Then,
I think this is the right call now. And for Alabama.
You know, just know, if you are fifty to fifty,
you know, if you're on the bubble, you know, sometimes
you're on the right side of the bubble, and sometimes
the bubble burst in your.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Faith, Jerry, before we let you go. The Huskies finished
six and six this year.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
The pessimists would say, man, they weren't even close to
competitive against any good to very good team that they played,
and then the optimists would say, well, god man, we
were a missed field goal and a one yard run
against Wazoo from being eight and four in Jedfish's first year.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So how do you evaluate the job Jed did this season?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You know? Can can you check back with me? You know,
and like, you know October of next year, right like,
you know, it's you know, the fact that they changed
coaches after the national title game was going to like
put any coach in the situation behind the eight ball,
right like, because then when your coach leaves, that portal
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reopens for everybody. They lost some considerable talent to the
portal that maybe maybe if they're with continuity, you know,
you wouldn't have had to deal with all of that. Certainly,
you wouldn't have had to deal with all of that.
I think Jetfish there's some things about him that I like,
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There's some things about him that I really don't know,
and I want to see more, Like I want to
see a team that's more in his image, a team
that's you know, bigger and better, more big TENI fied
up front, which very much is you know, he knows
this right, and he's going out and in his recruiting
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and portal efforts, he's already starting to address some of that.
I want to see. I want to see Jetfish, you know,
really buy into the fact that he's here, right Like,
I mean, I still there's a certain way about him
that makes you wonder if he's a short timer. I
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would like to for him, you know, and there's subtle
changes that you may you know, get to know the
media better, get to just like really kind of settle
into the job. But that said, right like, he had
to hit the ground running and he never got a
chance to really take a breath. And finally he's going
to get a chance to take a breath and be
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the head coach at Washington. And that's what you want
to see. You want to see him comfortable and someone
who's who's committing, i think, to the long term unless
just something absolutely blows him away. And so I want
to have that feel. Uh, you know, I like the
fact that, you know, it seemed to me that that
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they're becoming, you know, a little more back to some
of their roots and and uh, you know, the way
they approach things on the defensive end, Like but you're
going to have some change there most likely, right, Like, yeah,
Bill is probably coming for a son, and his son
did a really really good job with what he had
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this year, so that's a little bit of a thing.
I don't think that's insurmountable, but you know, I think
they're Okay, let's see, let's see, let's see how they
do in the Frosted Flates Bowl or whatever the hell
it is. I think it's a Brewer Bowl because I
came from Louisville and then came to Seattle, the two
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college programs that I've covered the most in my life.
You know, they're going at it in al Pasco. So
I'm excited about that game. But just the last point
that just it's it's I think one of the hardest
things in following college sports now is you never really
know where your program is because we have yet to
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recalibrate to the way things have changed, and everything can
be so year to year and there's so many variables
to consider. You don't know exactly what to hang your
hat on. And I'm really interested in how how Jedfish,
who's open to all of this change, how he normalizes
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and kind of builds consistency within his program, even though
his roster may be in a constant state of flux.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Jerry always wonderful to talk to.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Have a wonderful holiday season, man.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
All right, you tube man takes Okay, Merry Christmas see here, Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Jerry Brewer from the Washington Post our old friend.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
We got to get him back this summer, no question
about it. He was a great weekly guest for us
during baseball season. We'll get Hughes take on this Bill
Belichick to North Carolina situation and how replaceable is Steve
Belichick's defensive coordinator? What kind of job did Belichick do
with this defense?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And huge mind. We'll talk about that next on ninety
three point three KJRFM.