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November 27, 2024 18 mins
Kevin Harlan of Westwood One, CBS and TNT joins Softy to talk about the Ravens, the Jets’ problems heading into the Seahawks game, Kyle Shanahan, and Saquon Barkley.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They are NFL champions. The Seattleseyhawks have won Super Bowl
forty eight.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
As part of our non stop coverage of the NFL,
this is Softy's weekly visit with Kevin Harlan. He's a pulldowzer,
He's a beast, brought to you by the Emerald Queen Casino,
the betting capital of the Northwest.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
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twenty three.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
On Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hill the money Man, Jackson and the Gun. You forty
nine yard line of Baltimore, third and two shotgunsnap handoff.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hill runs rattle a step arms plays a chapel.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Fifty out of black forty on the numbers thirty first
sight could raise cunning.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
First sight like fifteen to ten five.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Touchdown walk in the tightrope down the far side, the
electrifying run by Hill, fifty one yard touchdown. Run Ah.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
That voice, that voice right there on full display. Monday night,
Ravens Chargers for Westwood one and he's back with us,
as he is every single Wednesday, gracing us with his presence. Really,
I would just say, a hero to millions of Americans
out there. Let's face fastillion, millions, billions of people walk
in the globe. The voice of football, not just in

(01:26):
this country, but in the world from the NFL on
Westwood One, the NFL and CBS now with us.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Courtesy of the Miracle of Zoo, we can hear him
crystal clear.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's our friend, Kevin Harlan courtesy of the emra Quin Casino.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
How are you, man?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, I'm doing great. How did this hampen with the zoom? Like,
like when like did you talk to your guys there
and say, hey, we got to make this pamping or
like what'd you do?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I just think you do yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
No, I did none of this myself. This is way
over my pay grade. I just think the voice is
so silky, it's so smooth. It only demands the best
quality audio that we can find. So it's finally great
to do this and catch you over zoom and not
over the phone.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
But man, go back to Monday night.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I thought that was going to be a game at first,
when the Chargers struck first against Baltimore and then JK.
Dobbins gets banged up and the Ravens just hammered them
to win the hardball ball on Monday. How impressed are
you by what you're seeing from Baltimore right now?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Man, Well, very I think Lamar Jackson Dave is just
right now in a position where he he's the front
runner for the MVP. We've had some great performances. He's
being helped certainly by Derrick Henry, and he's in the
conversation for the MVP along with Josh Allen and others.

(02:43):
But you go on the road across country after being
and I think he was embarrassed with the loss in
Pittsburgh the week before. I think he felt like, you know,
that was not the game that we play and that's
not how we have been playing. And then I think
so they were a motivated team. And if you recall

(03:05):
the week before, the Chargers had had a big lead
on Cincinnati lost it eventually beat them on that Sunday
night game, but they didn't look great in the second
half against the Bengals and Burrow almost came back and
won that game. And I just think that when the
turnaround that Jim Harbaugh is orchestrating in Los Angeles is

(03:28):
clearly just outstanding in every way, but they still have holes.
I mean, last year they were five and twelve, and
there's a reason they were five and twelve. Their roster
was not that good. They've improved it. It's better this year.
They got the right coach, but it's hard to make
that big change one year to the next. So seven

(03:49):
and four is about where they should be. I think
they'll push the Chiefs a little bit in the division,
but we're running out of time and they're gonna have
to make a move here quickly. But they're in the
play right now the wildcard spots in the AFC. I
just think they took out a Baltimore team that was
incredibly motivated, in particularly the quarterback who continues to make

(04:13):
plays at the biggest moment and just the pills everything
you thought he would be. Listen, he's a two time MVP.
He could were doing his winning his third one. And
this team may be overall even stronger than last year's team,
which had a fourteen to three record and had the
number one seed in the AFC. So a lot of

(04:33):
football to go. I still believe a lot in the Ravens.
I think they are who we thought they were, and
their quarterback is playing at a very high level.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I just don't know if there's a quarterback in the NFL,
maybe Josh Allen, who will be judged more by what
happens in the playoffs than Lamar Jackson, right like.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Real, oh, good point Revens.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
The Revens could go fourteen and three and get the
number one seed and nobody's gonna care because they're all
gonna want to wait to see what Lamar does come
playoff time. I mean, how how big of a millstone
is that around his neck?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
You think, well, it's huge. And the fact that Mahomes
and the Chiefs in their season last year, which are
kind of wonky, you know, and then they lose that
Christmas Day game at Arrowhead Stadium to the Raiders, humiliated,
and that turned their whole season around. They didn't lose
from that point on. And so I think that that

(05:24):
both Buffalo and Baltimore are in that same frame of
mind until we get by Kansas City. It doesn't matter
if it's Baltimore or if it were the Chargers or whoever.
It's going to be everything's got to go through the
Chiefs and got to go through Mahomes. There's still the
number one seed. The Chiefs are still ten and one,
and you're right. Until they beat the Chiefs, the hope

(05:47):
you have for those two quarterbacks, Jackson and Josh Allen
are probably on hold. I mean, they definitely have the talent,
but can they get you know, it's not unlike Michael
Jordan was going through with the Chicago Bulls until he
got by Boston and until he got by the Detroit Pistons,

(06:07):
he couldn't become the champion he became, but you have
to get It's like stairs, and he had not taken
that next step and when he got by the Pistons
that changed everything. Then they won six and nine years.
And I think that's the same with Baltimore and Buffalo.
Those two teams are good enough to have a run
here of maybe a super Bowl or two. Yeah, but

(06:28):
they got to get by Mahomes first, and until they
do that, it's Kansas City's road.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Well, Kevin Harlan's with us on the radio show. I'm
just thinking about what your family room and your kitchen
table is going to look like on Thursday, and I'm
starting to salivate already, but we'll get to that in
just a moment, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
The Seahawks are going to the Jets on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
It's not very often you see a team flying three
thousand miles into the favorite, which the Hawks are in
this game on Sunday. The Jets are saying Rogers is
going to start. There's reports are that are out that
he may want to play, but not for the Jets
next year. And I don't know, man, it just kind
of feels like Woody Johnson is just letting the inmate
run the asylum out there, and Aaron Rodgers and just

(07:08):
popp in his mouth off about you know, whether or
not he's gonna play and is he really into it
and blah blah blah, And I mean, how much of
the Jets should really concern the Seahawks you think for
this game on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well, Rogers is always going to be a concern, even
with the bad season. He's got you know, DeVante Adams,
they've got a good running back, They've got a couple
of great guys on defense. You just never know. I mean,
it's it's, yeah, I don't know what the weather's going
to be like I'm sitting here in the Midwest right now,
and and flew through Denver this morning and there's snow
in a front moving to the east coast, and who

(07:40):
knows what it's going to be like on Sunday and
whenever you travel like that. Although the Hawks have had
success doing it, Ye didn't they win in New England
earlier this season? If I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, that's a bad football team though, right, I guess
the Jets are bad too, right, exactly?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, a lot of the Jets are bad twos. So
come on, all right, I say, why not? The way
they won last week and their defense so as strong
as it's playing. And no, I'm I'm I'm bullish on
the Seahawks, and I think they should be the favorite.
But you just don't know. In the NFL, the margin
between the good and the bad, or the pretty good
and the pretty bad is pretty slim in both regards. Yeah,

(08:16):
and when Rodgers is there, you just don't know. As
far as the Jets, this is the one organization, not
the one. There are a couple, but this is an
organization where the owner is really involved, and that's never good. Uh,
the owner's really involved in Dallas. That's not done anything.
The owners really involved with the Jets. He's fired as

(08:36):
GM and his head coach in season. I mean, talk
about dysfunctional they have. There's who's got their hand on
the rudder, who's steering the ship, who's driving the car?
Like like who is handling this? It's the owner And
he's made one bad mistake after another. And I think
Rogers is frustrated. I'm sure he thinks he looks back.

(08:58):
Can you believe I left Green Bay where I was?
You know, there was there was you know, this triumvirent
of great you know, like the holy trinity of quarterbacks
Bart Starr, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers. And I left
that because I was getting a little bit sideways. I
left that to go to the Jets, you know, a

(09:20):
perennial loser, dysfunctional front office. And now he's living at
firsthand as he's seen the head coach and the GM
get fired in season, like he's got to be shaking
and got, what have I done? What a monumental, incredibly
horrible mistake have I committed? Why didn't I just try

(09:42):
to meet the Packers halfway. I mean, listen to head
Jordan loves. We know what's happened. Since it's bridge under
the water, all the water under the bridge, all all
he needs to do. All he needed to do was
be just a little bit more pliable, just a little
bit more and instead and I'm gonna play hardball. He

(10:02):
basically forced the hand to move ad and they did.
And it's worked out for Green Bay. It has not
worked out for Aaron Rodgers. So here we go. It's
a it's a bad situation. But on any given Sunday,
who knows what magic he might find in that arm.
The arm still looks pretty good to me. I think
he's beat up and injured in some way. You won't

(10:23):
reveal what because you don't want people zeroing in on it.
But I'm I just think that there are no easy
games for the Hawks, even playing the Jets, who are
all over the place, It's still you're traveling across the
country and taking on Aaron Rodgers, and that will be
a handful.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Hey, Kevin, I love the fact that we're doing this
over zoom.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
I gotta tell you, though, I've known you for a
long time, and there's a lot of things I don't
know about you, and there are a few things I
do know about you. One thing I do know for
sure is that you do not have a lisp. And
the zoom call is making it sound like you have
a lisp.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
It's oh, you know, well, you know what somebody else told.
I did his doom with the local radio station in
Kansas City, and we're doing it on zoom. And and
for whatever reason, I don't know if it's the phone
or whatever, it does. And they've had people calling and
goes Kevin, all right, does he does he have a uh?
Did you do you have a stroke? Did he fall

(11:20):
and hit his lip? Did he did he have some
dental surgery?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, I gotta send this to you while we're done.
It's hilarious, man. No.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
No, But should we do it on the phone because
of the telibus?

Speaker 4 (11:32):
No, No, it's fine, it's it's it's actually hilarious, man.
So we'll have some fun with it and maybe we'll
see if we can fix it for next week. But Kevin,
I just want everyone to know Kevin is not coming
off a root.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Canal a dental appointment, and not just yes and he
does not have a root canal. No, And yeah, and
my mouth is not numb.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Everything's fine, everything's fine. Hey, how about what's happening in
San Francisco? Man, the Hawks got him two weeks ago.
They go to Green Bay and just get thumb which no,
he was surprised by that because they had like everybody out,
including brock Party. Now there's Niner fans that want Kyle
Shanahan fired, you know, media coming down on Shanahan.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
How in the world can we give brock Party forty
to fifty million dollars? What do you make of all
the chaos operating in San Francisco?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Well, the contract with Purty's going to be interesting because
now you've got you know, now you've got to figure
out what you're going to do with that situation. And
I don't think he's a sixty million dollar quarterback. I
don't think he's a fifty million dollar quarterback. He's he's probably,
you know, in the thirty five million, which is what
these starters are getting. And and that's that's probably the

(12:35):
way I'd roll with him. I'm I'm wondering if they're
if their window has maybe closed A little bit hard
to say when you got a Bosa on your line,
But I know he's injured, and uh, and you had
these these great weapons on offense and defense, skill position players.
You paid your one wide receiver a ton of money
after paying another receiver a couple of years ago or

(12:57):
a year ago, Samuel a lot of money. We're half
the year without McCaffrey. You're trying to reincorporate him. I
think they can still salvage the season. I think it's
the only division without a team that has won seven
games or lost seven games? Am I right? Are all
the teams five and six or six and five? Is
that I'm doing it? Yeah? So, so it is going

(13:18):
to come down to the final weekend. There's there's absolutely
no doubt about that. And why not the Hawks? Why
not San Francisco? What if the Rams get hot here?
I mean, you just don't know. And and the Cardinals
have surprised a lot of people with what they've done.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb and
and and say that that San Francisco has still got

(13:40):
their best football ahead of them, and they'll still be
what we thought they were, one of the best teams.
But right now it's looking like Detroit, it's looking like
Green Bay and Minnesota. It's I don't know what to
make of Washington right now. I'm going to see Atlanta
this weekend there and I don't I don't know. Tampa
Bay is cooled down. I don't know. I like it's

(14:01):
wide open in the NFC for sure.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Well, you just gave away the Where will Kevin be
for TV on Sunday with the Chargers and Falcons?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Uh? And they'll be. I'll be getting this list worked
on by some surgeon and and fix this list, which
for whatever reason, I don't know if I if I
eaten something maybe in an allergic reaction, I got fat
lips in there now. And this is what I'm gonna
sound like. I want you.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I want you to go on the air for TV
on Sunday and see Welcome to CBX, Kevin Harlan's with us.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Dude, before you go, what have you done to me?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Are you gonna ruin? You're gonna ruin my career? You know,
I've spent forty years trying to build this thing up,
and in one interview it's gonna go right down the toilet.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
See that sounded better? You started yelling at me. You
sounded fine, Hey, dude, before you go. I don't know
what your definition is of of the MVP, but I
don't know of a guy in the NFL who's been
more valuable to his team than what Saquon Barkley is
meant to Philadelphia. I mean, they were gonna fire Nick Sirianni, like,
people were clowning him, they were hammering him at the

(15:05):
end of the year, and Saquon Barkley comes in and
saves his bacon.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Man.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I mean, should we be talking about Saquon Barkley is
a serious MVP candidate?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Absolutely, Absolutely, He's He's been better than hoped for. He's
turned their season around, He's caught fire. I think they
have changed some of the offense to accentuate what he
does so well. Absolutely, He's been everything and more. And
I'm sure and the Giants look horrible, right, I mean

(15:35):
the watch the Hard Knock. You heard some of the
conversations internally with what they want to do with Barkley
and how they thought they just go out there and
find another back or whatever. Nothing has worked out. Barkley
has gone to their chief rival, the Eagles, and just
become an MVP candidate, as you accurately saying he's turned

(15:55):
their season around. Has not been the quarterback who is
better because Barkley is now, you know, gaining so much attention.
Any and when you can when you can run the
ball in this league, and Marsha did this for the Seahawks,
when you run the ball in this league, it gives
you it's like walking down the middle of the high school,
uh with with the with the biggest toughest guy in school.

(16:19):
Like like you're walking down the hall and you're kind
of lingering in the but but you're walking with with
the man on campus. And and when you can run
the ball in the NFL, I'm sorry, it's it's proven.
It changes the way you are perceived, the way the
players act, the way the line blocks, the way everything operates.

(16:39):
If you run the ball, you usually are pretty good
stopping the run. And if you can run the ball,
it helps your passing game. And they want to do
you know what they want to do all this stuff.
Run the ball, stop the run, and see where it
gets you. Nine times out of ten it will give
you a winning record and and and exactly what your
fan base deserves a winning team.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Listen, here's the deal. I don't have the fancy schmancy
zoom pro. I'm too cheap to pay for it, So
I just got a message. This zoom call will end
in ninety seconds. So we've got literally hitting. We got
like eighty seconds. Tell me about thank you, tell me about.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Bucking me down. Yeah, making me down like Elmer Fudd. Yes,
And and you're gonna just knock.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
It wall, gonna kick you out. We're counting down one
twenty one, nineteen one eighteen. What's that Thanksgiving table gonna
look like? What's that table look like at your house
on tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Anne has got it looking great. We're we're excited to
have the kids over a lot of fun. And I
want to wish you and your wife and your family,
your extended family a very happy, happy Thanksgiving, and to
all our great listeners and at the Emerald Queen, all
those people out there, have a great Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
You're the best man.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Super thankful for you and your friendship and what you
do for this radio station every single year.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
You're the man.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Enjoy Atlanta, enjoyed Denver Monday, and we'll talk in a week, buddy,
appreciate it, Pal, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Dave, take care of my friend. Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
You too, Buddy Kevin Harlan with us on the air,
more with Hugh Millan who does not have a lisp.
I can guarantee you that next on ninety three three
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