September 25, 2024 • 12 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the winless Bengals, Christian McCaffrey going to Germany to fix his injury, quarterbacks being drafted by bad teams, and Jerry Jones’ questionable decisions for the Dallas Cowboys.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Each time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else ass for the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest Sonics collection in the world.
Check out simply Seattle dot com now with Mike Florio,
(00:21):
here's Softian Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
All right, boys and girls, here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Whatever you're looking forward, we have your eyes on. At
simply Sattle dot com. Use code KJR fifteen. Do not
type in buttholes at simply Seattle dot com. Nothing will
work for you. Use code KJR fifteen for fifteen percent
off anything at simply sattle dot com. Here he is
the king Baby, the undisputed heavyweight champion of the NFL.
(00:45):
Media cor our friend from ProFootball Talk dot com, the NFL,
and NBC, Mike Florio, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
There should be a code word buttholes.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Why don't we do that?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
And I get a cut of all of the stuff
that's sold the word butthole.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We could do that, Not.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
That they would run out of material for making their stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I will talk to Jamie Munson, who runs simply Seattle
and Steep.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I think he would.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Can we do a code butthole on the website in
Florio gets a cut of everything yourself buttholes?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Sorry, yes, yes, yes, multiple buttholes.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
All right, I'll talk to Jamie when the show's over
and see if we can make it happen. We were
kind of concerned that we'd have to fire somebody to
take care of your raise, so this might be a
way to keep somebody employed but also satisfy your financial
demands at the exact same time.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Hey, we saw since how many times do I.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Have to tell you? I don't care if you have
to fire somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Okay, Jackson, you're out.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Set letter Pal, Sorry, Pal, it's gonna save like four
to seven five.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Good lord, don't tell anybody how much he makes.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
How much trouble on the Bengals in Man, they're in
an three hole after losing Monday Night to the Commanders,
and how much trouble.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
How are they in with Joe Burrow's contract.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Well, I'm not ready to give up on the Bengals. Look,
usually they find the gas pedal after the first two weeks,
and maybe they got a little complacent, got a little lazy,
just assumed that it was time for them to show
up and get a victory. If they don't win at
Carolina this weekend, with their reunion game against former Bengals
draft pick and quarterback that took them to top straight
(02:25):
playoff appearance, as Andy Dalton, then I think they have
a problem. You have to stop the bleeding. When you're
oh and three, the tension goes up dramatically. You don't
want to get to oh and four. You don't want
to get to oh and five. At some point your
window closes. Now, look, we hear the stats about how
hard it is to make the playoffs. What percentage of
(02:46):
teams make it after they start oh and two, oho
and three, zho to four. That's because most of those
teams stink. We know the Bengals don't. They need to
start winning and the problem becomes and we still don't
know how this works because it's only been year four
of its seventeen game seasons. How many losses can you
afford before you have to run the table to get
a seat at the playoff table. And for the Bengals
(03:09):
that may not be a bad thing because Burrow reaches
a higher level when it's winner go home. So I
don't know. Maybe they need to have their hand in
the fire before they can start responding. But it's got
to happen this weekend. I'm not nearly as concerned about
them as them about the Jaguars. I just think the
Jaguars are done. I think the Bengals can still turn
it around.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think that's fair. They got to play some defense, though,
which they did not do on Monday night, no question
about it.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Mike, speaking of the Bengals, what happened to this Jamar
Chase contract dispute?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Did it just go poof? Now that the season.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Started and he's not complaining anymore.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Well, the Bengals got what they wanted. See, here's the thing.
When you have a guy who's due for a new contract,
typically speaking, the longer you wait, the more expensive it gets. However,
when you're in the fourth year of a first round
rookie contract and you have that fifty year you've already exercised,
if you can employ the guy under year four, you
(04:04):
get a bargain. And yes, it's gonna cost you more
on the back end. But for example, the Bengals are
getting Jamar Chase for four point eight million this year.
That's never going to change. Can't take that away. And
so it's gonna cost thirty six million instead of thirty
five million in new money next year when they do
the deal. They got him for under five million this year.
Michael Parsons in Dallas three million. He should have held out,
(04:27):
He should have demanded a new deal. He's playing for
three million this year, yet it's going to cost the
Cowboys more next year. They got him for three million
this year. And what happened at the end of the day.
The Bengals were willing to give him thirty five million
per year in new money, but the structure was so
bad there was no way he was going to take it.
So he just finally decided, I'm done now. How much
of a grudgually hold next year? There was a report
(04:48):
that he thought they weren't truthful with him. Will he
just say next year, hey, I'm not signing a contract.
You're gonna have to franchise attag me.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
But the Bengals win because the Bengals didn't have to
give him that huge contract and they're able to keep
him for under five million dollars for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, Mike, how about what's going on down in San Francisco.
Anytime a player is going overseas to get an injury
looked at, that doesn't sound good. Grant Cone was on
with us yesterday and said he's maybe talking about trying
to save his season, if not even more. We're talking
about Christian McCaffrey going to Germany to get his achilles
looked at.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Oh, that was a stunner anytime you see that kind
of an effort happening during football season. And I don't
know the whole story. Was it always bad?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Was it aggravated?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Did he push too hard? There's been some chattery. Maybe
he was doing stuff on his own. He's very determined,
he's very stubborn, and I think at some level, you know,
there's there's a protection that the player has to have
from himself, and maybe he's starting to realize he's twenty eight,
he wants to go hard, he wants to go all out,
and he's played through injuries in the past and this
(05:59):
is just one that he's not able for now to
play through. So it's not good and it reminds me
of that last time the forty nine ers went to
the Super Bowl lost the Chief That next year was
a lost season because of all the injuries they had
early in the year. Like remember the game at met
Life and they lose this guy, they lose this guy,
And I feel like they're kind of going through the
same thing we protracted this year. More guys out, and
(06:22):
it may end up being a lost season for the
forty nine ers by the time it's all said and done,
and it may be a lost season for Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Mike, I believe you've told us in the past. You've
said that the best policy is if you have the
first overall pick, is to trade that puppy. And it
appears now there's two more years with the number two
pick in the draft appearing to be better than the
number one pick in the draft, and last year's in
this year's and if you look at the last ten years,
only one player really appears to be worth it, that's
(06:51):
Joe Burrow that's gone number one. So are we going
to see a trend now where number one picks are
going to be traded more often?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I don't know about that. I just think is a
general proposition. Unless you are absolutely convinced that you are
acquiring a generational talent who will transform your franchise and
who will be able to carry that mantle despite the
pressure and the expectation that he'll be that kind of
player and carry the franchise to new heights, you're better
off getting more lottery tickets. It ultimately is a crapshoot.
(07:21):
It's a roll of the dice. We never know how
guys are going to perform until they get to the
NFL level. So that's why I'm always an advocate of
getting more lottery tickets. If you can now that said,
there's no way to know that Caleb Williams wouldn't have
been the guy who had the great game on Monday
Night for Washington and the Jaden Dangels would be running
for his life literally behind a bad Chicago Bears offensive
(07:44):
line if they had flipped. The deeper issue here is,
and I long for the day that incoming quarterbacks at
the top of the draft class will do this. Refuse
to go to teams that you think aren't going to
be good enough to allow you to get the most
out of your abilities. And the problem is the media
is brained wat the fans are brainwashed. It's an honor
and a privilege to be drafted, and people view it
like some stupid ass Harry Potter sorting hat makes your
(08:07):
destiny as to where you're going to be drafted. Instead
of you have control, you have power. And as more
of these players have nil money in the bank before
they come to the NFL, I hope that one of
them will stand up and say, I'm not going to
your sorry team. You don't have an offensive line, I
don't like the coaching staff, I don't like the ownership.
(08:27):
I'm going to push back. The problem is the whole
mechanism is slanted against guys who would dare to express
that kind of independence, which makes it a very rare case.
It's like Haley's commet NFL style. Every twenty one years,
it happens John Lway in eighty three, you Lie Manning
in two thousand and four, and guess what it's due
to come back around again in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, Well, Mike Florio's with us and Mike Thursday Night,
Dallas and the Giants and Cowboys lose, and they're one
in three with Pittsburgh and San Francisco and Detroit coming up.
If they lose Thursday, can we still were talking about
who the next head coach of the Cowboys will be
or should that conversation start now?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Well, at one point, not that long ago, Jerry Jones said,
the pressure is going to apply to Mike McCarthy at
the postseason. I don't know if there's going to be
a postseason the way they've looked defensively, they're weak up
the middle two hundred and seventy five rushing yards. I mean,
if you would fire McCarthy during the season, who do
you make head coach? Mike Zimmer the guy who's responsible
for this sorry defense? And it all does flow back
(09:25):
to Jerry Jones. There was a poll conducted by WFAA
and Dallas who's to blame for the Cowboys current stay
and seventy eight percent said Jerry Jones. And he said
on radio yesterday one three to fans. That's fair. And
you know, it dawned on me today, where is Stephen
in all of this? Because the extent of Jerry is
maybe losing his fastball, And I mean, we all should
(09:47):
be lucky enough to live long enough to lose our fastball.
And we should be lucky enough to have a fastball
to lose. But I wonder if Jerry is just kind
of protecting Steven and covering for Steven, because is Stephen
just letting Jerry like do dumb things like not he
signed tv Lamb until right before the start of the season,
not signed Dak Prescott until the morning literally of the
(10:08):
season opener, when those contracts could have been done, and
that cap savings could have been used on other players
to make the team better, like Derrick Henry. They're very
sensitive about this idea that they could have had Derrick
Henry after he ran roughshot over them. So it's just
a mess in Dallas, and it all flows up to ownership,
and I'm just I'm fascinated by when and if the
(10:28):
fans are gonna notice it and actually do something about it.
The problem, though, is if you're a fan of a
team and you're not happy with ownership, what are you
gonna do? Are you gonna deprive yourself of something you love?
Are you gonna not go to games and you're not
gonna watch games? Are you gonna you know? Because how
long is that gonna take before it moves? The need
of of the point that the owner would sell. And
you know, Jonesa said he's never gonna sell, and his
(10:50):
son's probably not gonna sell. So what do you do?
You can change out everything on a football team, accept
ownership and I look at the you know, the last
thirty year speak for themselves with the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Mike Florio, we're gonna work on the Buttholes code at
Simply Seattle and work on getting you a cut from
every sale with code Buttholes at simply Seattle dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So stand by for that. We're on it is that it,
that's it.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
That your way of showing me out the door.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Well, did you have something else you wanted to offer?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I'm sorry, no, no, I just you know, just kind
of landing playing with but that's fine, Gotta get everybody ready.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yes, yes, and we're gonna have a Buttholes line of
gear as well available potentially just for you. Hate to
see what the graphic is on the website. All right, Mike,
we're talking a week. Appreciate it man, Thank you. Mike
Florio with us Factor Fiction. It's Wednesday, It's Jackson's Day.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Boy. Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That last comment that Mike made there about the Cowboys
and the fans. Was he talking Mariners or was he
talking Dallas. We got to chat about that because that
is now becoming a conversation. What can we do? Are
we powerless as fans when it comes to things like
forcing a team to spend more money or force a sale.
We'll talk about that next on ninety three to three KJRFM.
Each time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else ass for the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest Sonics collection in the world.
Check out simply Seattle dot com now with Mike Florio,
(00:21):
here's Softian Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
All right, boys and girls, here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Whatever you're looking forward, we have your eyes on. At
simply Sattle dot com. Use code KJR fifteen. Do not
type in buttholes at simply Seattle dot com. Nothing will
work for you. Use code KJR fifteen for fifteen percent
off anything at simply sattle dot com. Here he is
the king Baby, the undisputed heavyweight champion of the NFL.
(00:45):
Media cor our friend from ProFootball Talk dot com, the NFL,
and NBC, Mike Florio, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
There should be a code word buttholes.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Why don't we do that?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
And I get a cut of all of the stuff
that's sold the word butthole.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We could do that, Not.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
That they would run out of material for making their stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I will talk to Jamie Munson, who runs simply Seattle
and Steep.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I think he would.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Can we do a code butthole on the website in
Florio gets a cut of everything yourself buttholes?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Sorry, yes, yes, yes, multiple buttholes.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
All right, I'll talk to Jamie when the show's over
and see if we can make it happen. We were
kind of concerned that we'd have to fire somebody to
take care of your raise, so this might be a
way to keep somebody employed but also satisfy your financial
demands at the exact same time.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Hey, we saw since how many times do I.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Have to tell you? I don't care if you have
to fire somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Okay, Jackson, you're out.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Set letter Pal, Sorry, Pal, it's gonna save like four
to seven five.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Good lord, don't tell anybody how much he makes.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
How much trouble on the Bengals in Man, they're in
an three hole after losing Monday Night to the Commanders,
and how much trouble.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
How are they in with Joe Burrow's contract.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Well, I'm not ready to give up on the Bengals. Look,
usually they find the gas pedal after the first two weeks,
and maybe they got a little complacent, got a little lazy,
just assumed that it was time for them to show
up and get a victory. If they don't win at
Carolina this weekend, with their reunion game against former Bengals
draft pick and quarterback that took them to top straight
(02:25):
playoff appearance, as Andy Dalton, then I think they have
a problem. You have to stop the bleeding. When you're
oh and three, the tension goes up dramatically. You don't
want to get to oh and four. You don't want
to get to oh and five. At some point your
window closes. Now, look, we hear the stats about how
hard it is to make the playoffs. What percentage of
(02:46):
teams make it after they start oh and two, oho
and three, zho to four. That's because most of those
teams stink. We know the Bengals don't. They need to
start winning and the problem becomes and we still don't
know how this works because it's only been year four
of its seventeen game seasons. How many losses can you
afford before you have to run the table to get
a seat at the playoff table. And for the Bengals
(03:09):
that may not be a bad thing because Burrow reaches
a higher level when it's winner go home. So I
don't know. Maybe they need to have their hand in
the fire before they can start responding. But it's got
to happen this weekend. I'm not nearly as concerned about
them as them about the Jaguars. I just think the
Jaguars are done. I think the Bengals can still turn
it around.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think that's fair. They got to play some defense, though,
which they did not do on Monday night, no question
about it.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Mike, speaking of the Bengals, what happened to this Jamar
Chase contract dispute?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Did it just go poof? Now that the season.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Started and he's not complaining anymore.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Well, the Bengals got what they wanted. See, here's the thing.
When you have a guy who's due for a new contract,
typically speaking, the longer you wait, the more expensive it gets. However,
when you're in the fourth year of a first round
rookie contract and you have that fifty year you've already exercised,
if you can employ the guy under year four, you
(04:04):
get a bargain. And yes, it's gonna cost you more
on the back end. But for example, the Bengals are
getting Jamar Chase for four point eight million this year.
That's never going to change. Can't take that away. And
so it's gonna cost thirty six million instead of thirty
five million in new money next year when they do
the deal. They got him for under five million this year.
Michael Parsons in Dallas three million. He should have held out,
(04:27):
He should have demanded a new deal. He's playing for
three million this year, yet it's going to cost the
Cowboys more next year. They got him for three million
this year. And what happened at the end of the day.
The Bengals were willing to give him thirty five million
per year in new money, but the structure was so
bad there was no way he was going to take it.
So he just finally decided, I'm done now. How much
of a grudgually hold next year? There was a report
(04:48):
that he thought they weren't truthful with him. Will he
just say next year, hey, I'm not signing a contract.
You're gonna have to franchise attag me.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
But the Bengals win because the Bengals didn't have to
give him that huge contract and they're able to keep
him for under five million dollars for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, Mike, how about what's going on down in San Francisco.
Anytime a player is going overseas to get an injury
looked at, that doesn't sound good. Grant Cone was on
with us yesterday and said he's maybe talking about trying
to save his season, if not even more. We're talking
about Christian McCaffrey going to Germany to get his achilles
looked at.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Oh, that was a stunner anytime you see that kind
of an effort happening during football season. And I don't
know the whole story. Was it always bad?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Was it aggravated?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Did he push too hard? There's been some chattery. Maybe
he was doing stuff on his own. He's very determined,
he's very stubborn, and I think at some level, you know,
there's there's a protection that the player has to have
from himself, and maybe he's starting to realize he's twenty eight,
he wants to go hard, he wants to go all out,
and he's played through injuries in the past and this
(05:59):
is just one that he's not able for now to
play through. So it's not good and it reminds me
of that last time the forty nine ers went to
the Super Bowl lost the Chief That next year was
a lost season because of all the injuries they had
early in the year. Like remember the game at met
Life and they lose this guy, they lose this guy,
And I feel like they're kind of going through the
same thing we protracted this year. More guys out, and
(06:22):
it may end up being a lost season for the
forty nine ers by the time it's all said and done,
and it may be a lost season for Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Mike, I believe you've told us in the past. You've
said that the best policy is if you have the
first overall pick, is to trade that puppy. And it
appears now there's two more years with the number two
pick in the draft appearing to be better than the
number one pick in the draft, and last year's in
this year's and if you look at the last ten years,
only one player really appears to be worth it, that's
(06:51):
Joe Burrow that's gone number one. So are we going
to see a trend now where number one picks are
going to be traded more often?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I don't know about that. I just think is a
general proposition. Unless you are absolutely convinced that you are
acquiring a generational talent who will transform your franchise and
who will be able to carry that mantle despite the
pressure and the expectation that he'll be that kind of
player and carry the franchise to new heights, you're better
off getting more lottery tickets. It ultimately is a crapshoot.
(07:21):
It's a roll of the dice. We never know how
guys are going to perform until they get to the
NFL level. So that's why I'm always an advocate of
getting more lottery tickets. If you can now that said,
there's no way to know that Caleb Williams wouldn't have
been the guy who had the great game on Monday
Night for Washington and the Jaden Dangels would be running
for his life literally behind a bad Chicago Bears offensive
(07:44):
line if they had flipped. The deeper issue here is,
and I long for the day that incoming quarterbacks at
the top of the draft class will do this. Refuse
to go to teams that you think aren't going to
be good enough to allow you to get the most
out of your abilities. And the problem is the media
is brained wat the fans are brainwashed. It's an honor
and a privilege to be drafted, and people view it
like some stupid ass Harry Potter sorting hat makes your
(08:07):
destiny as to where you're going to be drafted. Instead
of you have control, you have power. And as more
of these players have nil money in the bank before
they come to the NFL, I hope that one of
them will stand up and say, I'm not going to
your sorry team. You don't have an offensive line, I
don't like the coaching staff, I don't like the ownership.
(08:27):
I'm going to push back. The problem is the whole
mechanism is slanted against guys who would dare to express
that kind of independence, which makes it a very rare case.
It's like Haley's commet NFL style. Every twenty one years,
it happens John Lway in eighty three, you Lie Manning
in two thousand and four, and guess what it's due
to come back around again in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, Well, Mike Florio's with us and Mike Thursday Night,
Dallas and the Giants and Cowboys lose, and they're one
in three with Pittsburgh and San Francisco and Detroit coming up.
If they lose Thursday, can we still were talking about
who the next head coach of the Cowboys will be
or should that conversation start now?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Well, at one point, not that long ago, Jerry Jones said,
the pressure is going to apply to Mike McCarthy at
the postseason. I don't know if there's going to be
a postseason the way they've looked defensively, they're weak up
the middle two hundred and seventy five rushing yards. I mean,
if you would fire McCarthy during the season, who do
you make head coach? Mike Zimmer the guy who's responsible
for this sorry defense? And it all does flow back
(09:25):
to Jerry Jones. There was a poll conducted by WFAA
and Dallas who's to blame for the Cowboys current stay
and seventy eight percent said Jerry Jones. And he said
on radio yesterday one three to fans. That's fair. And
you know, it dawned on me today, where is Stephen
in all of this? Because the extent of Jerry is
maybe losing his fastball, And I mean, we all should
(09:47):
be lucky enough to live long enough to lose our fastball.
And we should be lucky enough to have a fastball
to lose. But I wonder if Jerry is just kind
of protecting Steven and covering for Steven, because is Stephen
just letting Jerry like do dumb things like not he
signed tv Lamb until right before the start of the season,
not signed Dak Prescott until the morning literally of the
(10:08):
season opener, when those contracts could have been done, and
that cap savings could have been used on other players
to make the team better, like Derrick Henry. They're very
sensitive about this idea that they could have had Derrick
Henry after he ran roughshot over them. So it's just
a mess in Dallas, and it all flows up to ownership,
and I'm just I'm fascinated by when and if the
(10:28):
fans are gonna notice it and actually do something about it.
The problem, though, is if you're a fan of a
team and you're not happy with ownership, what are you
gonna do? Are you gonna deprive yourself of something you love?
Are you gonna not go to games and you're not
gonna watch games? Are you gonna you know? Because how
long is that gonna take before it moves? The need
of of the point that the owner would sell. And
you know, Jonesa said he's never gonna sell, and his
(10:50):
son's probably not gonna sell. So what do you do?
You can change out everything on a football team, accept
ownership and I look at the you know, the last
thirty year speak for themselves with the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Mike Florio, we're gonna work on the Buttholes code at
Simply Seattle and work on getting you a cut from
every sale with code Buttholes at simply Seattle dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So stand by for that. We're on it is that it,
that's it.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
That your way of showing me out the door.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Well, did you have something else you wanted to offer?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I'm sorry, no, no, I just you know, just kind
of landing playing with but that's fine, Gotta get everybody ready.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yes, yes, and we're gonna have a Buttholes line of
gear as well available potentially just for you. Hate to
see what the graphic is on the website. All right, Mike,
we're talking a week. Appreciate it man, Thank you. Mike
Florio with us Factor Fiction. It's Wednesday, It's Jackson's Day.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Boy. Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That last comment that Mike made there about the Cowboys
and the fans. Was he talking Mariners or was he
talking Dallas. We got to chat about that because that
is now becoming a conversation. What can we do? Are
we powerless as fans when it comes to things like
forcing a team to spend more money or force a sale.
We'll talk about that next on ninety three to three KJRFM.
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