November 19, 2025 • 12 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the Falcons losing Michael Penix to an ACL injury, the Seahawks loss to the Rams, Sam Darnold, Kansas City and Travis Kelce’s future, plus DK Metcalf, Pete Carroll, and paying QBs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and ripping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
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(00:21):
here's Softian Dick. How dare you all right? Here we
go the moment everybody's been waiting for.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
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six tenth Central.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
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is in high demand.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
As a sports talk radio guest in this country, and
we are lucky enough to have him every single Wednesday.
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
Mike Florio, Michael, how are you, Pelle?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I'm doing great today? How are you bud home.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
We are good.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Dick and I were just talking about this on the
year before you showed up to Michael Pennock's injury with
his ACL obviously hits home for us. He was here
for two years, he was a Husky legend, went to
the National Championship, beat Oregon three times.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So we're all super bummed about Mike.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And then both of us kind of agree that you know,
when he's healthy, he might need better coaching, and I
just tossed out, hey, maybe Raheem Morris goes to Ryan
Grubb and says, you want to reunite with Michael and
be his coordinator in Atlanta next year. And then Dick asked,
what's a better job, man, the offensive coordinator for Alabama
or the offensive coordinator of a team like the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
What do you think You're assuming that Raheem Morris will
he can be there to make that decision. I think
that between the misguided decision to give Kirk Cousins ninety
million over two years within a ten million guaranteed and
the next year followed by the decision to draft Michael Pennix,
neither has worked out for the Falcons. I'd be surprised
if part the blank, the owner of the team, doesn't
(01:52):
make some major changes and have some real accountability for
this disastrous handling of the quarterback position.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
There's no question that Raehee Morris has got to be
on the hot seat. Mike Softy and I are both
in agreement after watching a Seahawks team go to Los
Angeles and be a sixty yard field goal away from
stealing a win despite four interceptions from their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
We both feel better about.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
This team's chances going forward than we did even before
the game, despite the loss.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Well, I think it shows that the Seahawks are legitimate.
It was a lost opportunity. There's a rematch coming up
on a Thursday night a few weeks. That becomes critical
now because if you get swept by the Rams, they
have essentially a two game lead over you actually go
to three games. Everything else hold as it currently is.
So they've got to beat the Rams and they've got
to otherwise take care of business in the division to
(02:41):
try to win it. But yeah, the Seahawks glass half fool.
They belong glass half ef They they squaded an opportunity
to steal a game from the Rams. That would have
made everyone say, hey, the Seahawks are one of the
best teams in the NFL. And they still are. There's
still number six in the power rankings. They didn't move,
not the power ranking mean anything, but they're one of
the best teams in the NFL right now, and they're
(03:03):
squarely in the window to be a problem when the
postseason rolls around. The question is the next time Sam
Donald has a big game, is he going to go
Cheriot into Pumpkin or is he going to keep doing
the things he does in the games that aren't as consequential.
That's the key.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, and that's a topic here in Seattle, Mike right,
I mean, it really is. You know, I think everyone,
I think agrees that going from Jena to him.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Was the right call.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But there's a lot that's what There's a lot of
people out there that just wonder if this guy can
hack it when the lights are brightest. It sounds like
you agreed, that's a that's fair analysis.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Well, look, that's what separates good from great. You have
moments to come along very infrequently. What do you do
with those moments when the chance is there to win
a big game and I was more troubled by week eighteen.
It's a Troit than I was the playoff loss to
the Rams, because that was a total team failure. The
loss at Atroit. If Donald isn't putting a little too
(04:00):
much air on the balls because the moment was a
little too big, they win that game and they're the
number one seed, and who knows what happens the rest
of the way. So yeah, it's a fair criticism, and
it's the feeling that he's either going to break through
or he's not. But you don't get many opportunities to
do it. And the problem with narratives like that, the
more it happens, the more pressure there is the next
(04:21):
time you have a chance to do it. So when
they have that next big game, whether it's the one
against the Rams or some other regular season game, it's
going to be the difference maker, or even in the playoffs,
will he be able to shed the reputation and change
the narrative. There's going to be more pressure on him
until he does it.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Mike, which team's better the twenty twenty four Chiefs that
won every close game, but their analytics said that they
weren't very good, or the twenty twenty five Chiefs, whose
analytics are actually better than last year, but they lose
every close game.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, you have to win, and they're in a mode
of desperation now that we haven't seen in the Patrick
Mahomes there. Their worst finish ever with Mahomes since he
became the starter in twenty eighteen is losing an overtime
of THEFC Championship. They're five and five now, they may
miss the playoffs. That weird play in Jacksonville where Trevor
Lawrence fell down twice and then got up and scored
(05:14):
the game winning touchdowns. That maybe the moment that keeps
them out, because it may come down to Jacksonville and
the Chief Todd head to head for the seventh seed
and the Chiefs lose out on that tiebreaker, and it's
something that's hard to even say and it seems inconceivable,
but they may not make the playoffs. They've really got
some work to do down the stretch. Now. Are they
capable of finding the gas mettle? Do they have the
(05:34):
institutional experience to turn things around? Yes? Yes, of any
team out there that would be five and five and
on the ropes, they've got the pieces and they've got
the coaching, and they've got the leadership, and they've got
the quarterback to do it. They just have to do it.
And they've got the Colts, and then they've got the
Cowboys on a short week and the Cowboys at home.
Now that they have a little swagger, and I won't
be surprised if they eat the Eagles on Sunday. The
(05:56):
way they're playing right now, let me know that defense.
These next two games are critical for the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Do you think they would make any changes of significance
if they missed the playoffs. I mean, it's obviously logical
to say, well, just bring them all back and just
shelve it and whatever. But I guess Travis Kelcey more
likely to quit retire as Andy Reid more likely to retire.
Do you see any changes of significance if the Chiefs
missed the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I don't think Travis Kelsey's coming back mana because I
thought he was going to retire if they'd won the
Super Bowl, And right after the Super Bowl on his podcast,
he was sounding like a guy who was coming to
terms with retirement. Something changed his mind and caused him
to decide to make one last run at a storybook ending.
I'm not sure he comes back. I'd be surprised if
he does. I don't see Reid retiring because, look, as
(06:44):
long as he has Patrick Mahomes, he's gonna have a chance.
We can treat this year as an aberration, but they're
going to have to to do some work. They're gonna
have to address some deficiencies on both sides of the ball.
They're not where they need to be. Their defense isn't
what it was, their offense isn't what it was. Their
running game is not impressed. And I mean, frankly, they
don't commit to the run, even when they have a
(07:04):
great running back. You know, they were trying to trade
for Brief Hall from the Jets, and what would have
happened if they would have had them. They're gonna run
the ball twenty five times. That's just not what they are.
But I think they'll be changes, necessary changes. But it's
not like they're gonna trade Patrick Mahomes and just completely
start over. And I've seen some chatter like maybe he'll
wan aut. Do you think he's gonna want out after
(07:25):
one bad year. He's committed to that team. He's committed
to that town, and he'll be committed to trying to
fix everything and come back better than ever next year.
We'll just see if he can get the help around
him that he doesn't have right now.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Mike, you wrote today that the Steelers have yet to
use DK in a way that justifies their investment. That
just sounds like a half a decade here in Seattle,
we've talked about that.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
One thousand times.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
So now that it's been two teams, it leads me
to ask you the question, is it the team's not
using him right or is DK just not the receiver
everybody hopes he is.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I just think it's the team's not using him right.
Look at what George Pickens has done in Dallas. The
Steelers never used him. He was frustrated, and justifiably. The
skills are there. I've seen them in Pittsburgh and they
never were able to design an offense. And we've talked
about this before when DK was in Seattle. There are
things you can do to put the ball in an
elite athlete's hands. You can do jet sweets and bubble
(08:18):
screens and all those little tricks of the trade that
will allow you to get a guy who is man
among boys talented into a position where he can have
an impact on the game. So when the Steelers made
an unprecedented move for them, They've never paid market value
to someone who previously didn't play for the team. They
have a hard time paying market value to people who
(08:39):
do play for the team. That made me think they're
going to go out of their way to try to
justify this, and they just haven't. And so far, Pickens
is having a much better year in Dallas than Metcalf
is having with the Steelers, and a lot of it
to do with the quarterback too. Aaron Rodgers has to
let it rip down the field. It can't be a
bunch of slamp passes a DK Metcalf, which is what
we see more often than not.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
What are the odds Micah Pete Carroll being one and
done in Vegas?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Well, there's two sides to this. Do the Raiders want
to bring him back? And does he want to come back?
I think he may have thought that that team was
going to be a little better equipped to compete than
it is. Is he really want to come back and
have another bad season on the tail end of his career,
And the guy who really matters in Las Vegas is
Tom Brady because Mark Davis, the owner of the team,
has made it clear that he listens to Brady. One
(09:24):
of the reasons Brady got a sweetheart deal for a
chunk of the franchise was because of his expertise. So
what Brady wants is what's going to happen. And if
Brady wants to go in another direction to coach, Mark
Data is going to listen to him and I Hey,
they started off great. They somehow beat the Patriots in
Week one. It shows you how point this week one
of the regular season is. But the Raiders have just
been a disaster and they may be the worst team
(09:45):
in football right now, even though their record is one
game better than the Titans.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, they were three and seven Dick in twenty twenty one.
That's the worst it got for him after ten games.
He's two and eight now. So this is unchartered territory.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
On They're just getting bludgeon too.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
They're not even close. This is an incredible stat Seven of
the top eight quarterback cap hits are five hundred or worse.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Right now? Does that mean anything? Can we read anything
into that?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Well, look, this is one of the realities of you know,
you get a quarterback in the draft and you decide
that he's passed over the pats Vale line, and so
we need to pay him. There are a lot of
quarterbacks out there making more money than they should, and
they need to be held to a higher standard when
they're not living up to the contract. But it does
put a burden on the rest of the team. And
even though I'm a big proponent of guys getting every
(10:33):
last dollar they can, it does have a consequence. And look,
I don't know if it's just a short term thing.
I don't know if it's a blip on the radar screen,
but it is something worth paying attention to. And I
wonder when you know, the Rams did it when they
didn't do it with Jared Goff. They did it after
they paid Jared Goff. They didn't do it in twenty
nineteen when they could. I'm waiting for a team who
(10:53):
has a guy they took in the top ten who
is good enough, but they just say, no, you know what,
We're going to do something else instead of giving you
fifty million a year, fifty five million a year, whatever
the market's going to be.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
As the cap keeps going up, Mike Florial with us,
Mike before you go, I got to tell you this
spitting thing in the NFL has got to stop. It's cowardly,
it's disgusting. We saw Jalen Carter do it, and then
we saw Jamar Chase do it. And I'm wondering if
one game is enough, man, I mean, is one game
enough for these guys that keep doing this crap?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Well, you know, the president has changed before our eyes
this season. There had never been a true suspension until
this week. The Jalen Carter quote unquote suspension was an
ejection with a fine in the amount of a game
check that simulated a suspension. Right, this is the first
time a guy who's been suspended. And I don't know
what the arguments that the appeal hearing were. I saw
(11:45):
that Chase is going to argue I didn't spit because
if I would have spit, I would have spit in
his face. I mean, some ridiculous logic like that. The
argument should have been there has never been a suspension
for spitting. You can't just change the precedent like that.
But at the end of the day, it's one hearing
officer already Nelson who made the decision. He has full
discretion to go one way or the other. He made
the decision to uphold the suspension, so there can be
(12:06):
no doubt going forward. And every team needs to explain
it to every player. Every agent needs to explain it
to their clients. If you spit on another player, you
will be suspended and you'll lose the compensation that goes
along with it. For to Mark's stays, it ends up
being over five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, that's not insignificant. All right, Mike, you're the best,
great stuff. We're talking a week see you, man, Mike.
All right, Mike Florio with us. We're going to break
factor fiction.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We are clinging to a percentage points lead in this contest.
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(00:21):
here's Softian Dick. How dare you all right? Here we
go the moment everybody's been waiting for.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I cannot wait for Wednesdays at three ten Pacific times
six tenth Central.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You've got a guy on the air that I believe
is in high demand.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
As a sports talk radio guest in this country, and
we are lucky enough to have him every single Wednesday.
Cartsy of our friends at simply Seattle dot com. Their
Black Friday sales starts, I believe on Saturday. Be sure
and use Coke Kjar fifteen for fifteen percent off whatever
you're looking at it Simply Seattle. Here he is our
friend NFL at NBC Pro Football Talk dot Com.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Mike Florio, Michael, how are you, Pelle?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I'm doing great today? How are you bud home.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
We are good.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Dick and I were just talking about this on the
year before you showed up to Michael Pennock's injury with
his ACL obviously hits home for us. He was here
for two years, he was a Husky legend, went to
the National Championship, beat Oregon three times.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So we're all super bummed about Mike.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And then both of us kind of agree that you know,
when he's healthy, he might need better coaching, and I
just tossed out, hey, maybe Raheem Morris goes to Ryan
Grubb and says, you want to reunite with Michael and
be his coordinator in Atlanta next year. And then Dick asked,
what's a better job, man, the offensive coordinator for Alabama
or the offensive coordinator of a team like the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
What do you think You're assuming that Raheem Morris will
he can be there to make that decision. I think
that between the misguided decision to give Kirk Cousins ninety
million over two years within a ten million guaranteed and
the next year followed by the decision to draft Michael Pennix,
neither has worked out for the Falcons. I'd be surprised
if part the blank, the owner of the team, doesn't
(01:52):
make some major changes and have some real accountability for
this disastrous handling of the quarterback position.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
There's no question that Raehee Morris has got to be
on the hot seat. Mike Softy and I are both
in agreement after watching a Seahawks team go to Los
Angeles and be a sixty yard field goal away from
stealing a win despite four interceptions from their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
We both feel better about.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
This team's chances going forward than we did even before
the game, despite the loss.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Well, I think it shows that the Seahawks are legitimate.
It was a lost opportunity. There's a rematch coming up
on a Thursday night a few weeks. That becomes critical
now because if you get swept by the Rams, they
have essentially a two game lead over you actually go
to three games. Everything else hold as it currently is.
So they've got to beat the Rams and they've got
to otherwise take care of business in the division to
(02:41):
try to win it. But yeah, the Seahawks glass half fool.
They belong glass half ef They they squaded an opportunity
to steal a game from the Rams. That would have
made everyone say, hey, the Seahawks are one of the
best teams in the NFL. And they still are. There's
still number six in the power rankings. They didn't move,
not the power ranking mean anything, but they're one of
the best teams in the NFL right now, and they're
(03:03):
squarely in the window to be a problem when the
postseason rolls around. The question is the next time Sam
Donald has a big game, is he going to go
Cheriot into Pumpkin or is he going to keep doing
the things he does in the games that aren't as consequential.
That's the key.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, and that's a topic here in Seattle, Mike right,
I mean, it really is. You know, I think everyone,
I think agrees that going from Jena to him.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Was the right call.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But there's a lot that's what There's a lot of
people out there that just wonder if this guy can
hack it when the lights are brightest. It sounds like
you agreed, that's a that's fair analysis.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Well, look, that's what separates good from great. You have
moments to come along very infrequently. What do you do
with those moments when the chance is there to win
a big game and I was more troubled by week eighteen.
It's a Troit than I was the playoff loss to
the Rams, because that was a total team failure. The
loss at Atroit. If Donald isn't putting a little too
(04:00):
much air on the balls because the moment was a
little too big, they win that game and they're the
number one seed, and who knows what happens the rest
of the way. So yeah, it's a fair criticism, and
it's the feeling that he's either going to break through
or he's not. But you don't get many opportunities to
do it. And the problem with narratives like that, the
more it happens, the more pressure there is the next
(04:21):
time you have a chance to do it. So when
they have that next big game, whether it's the one
against the Rams or some other regular season game, it's
going to be the difference maker, or even in the playoffs,
will he be able to shed the reputation and change
the narrative. There's going to be more pressure on him
until he does it.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Mike, which team's better the twenty twenty four Chiefs that
won every close game, but their analytics said that they
weren't very good, or the twenty twenty five Chiefs, whose
analytics are actually better than last year, but they lose
every close game.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, you have to win, and they're in a mode
of desperation now that we haven't seen in the Patrick
Mahomes there. Their worst finish ever with Mahomes since he
became the starter in twenty eighteen is losing an overtime
of THEFC Championship. They're five and five now, they may
miss the playoffs. That weird play in Jacksonville where Trevor
Lawrence fell down twice and then got up and scored
(05:14):
the game winning touchdowns. That maybe the moment that keeps
them out, because it may come down to Jacksonville and
the Chief Todd head to head for the seventh seed
and the Chiefs lose out on that tiebreaker, and it's
something that's hard to even say and it seems inconceivable,
but they may not make the playoffs. They've really got
some work to do down the stretch. Now. Are they
capable of finding the gas mettle? Do they have the
(05:34):
institutional experience to turn things around? Yes? Yes, of any
team out there that would be five and five and
on the ropes, they've got the pieces and they've got
the coaching, and they've got the leadership, and they've got
the quarterback to do it. They just have to do it.
And they've got the Colts, and then they've got the
Cowboys on a short week and the Cowboys at home.
Now that they have a little swagger, and I won't
be surprised if they eat the Eagles on Sunday. The
(05:56):
way they're playing right now, let me know that defense.
These next two games are critical for the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Do you think they would make any changes of significance
if they missed the playoffs. I mean, it's obviously logical
to say, well, just bring them all back and just
shelve it and whatever. But I guess Travis Kelcey more
likely to quit retire as Andy Reid more likely to retire.
Do you see any changes of significance if the Chiefs
missed the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I don't think Travis Kelsey's coming back mana because I
thought he was going to retire if they'd won the
Super Bowl, And right after the Super Bowl on his podcast,
he was sounding like a guy who was coming to
terms with retirement. Something changed his mind and caused him
to decide to make one last run at a storybook ending.
I'm not sure he comes back. I'd be surprised if
he does. I don't see Reid retiring because, look, as
(06:44):
long as he has Patrick Mahomes, he's gonna have a chance.
We can treat this year as an aberration, but they're
going to have to to do some work. They're gonna
have to address some deficiencies on both sides of the ball.
They're not where they need to be. Their defense isn't
what it was, their offense isn't what it was. Their
running game is not impressed. And I mean, frankly, they
don't commit to the run, even when they have a
(07:04):
great running back. You know, they were trying to trade
for Brief Hall from the Jets, and what would have
happened if they would have had them. They're gonna run
the ball twenty five times. That's just not what they are.
But I think they'll be changes, necessary changes. But it's
not like they're gonna trade Patrick Mahomes and just completely
start over. And I've seen some chatter like maybe he'll
wan aut. Do you think he's gonna want out after
(07:25):
one bad year. He's committed to that team. He's committed
to that town, and he'll be committed to trying to
fix everything and come back better than ever next year.
We'll just see if he can get the help around
him that he doesn't have right now.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Mike, you wrote today that the Steelers have yet to
use DK in a way that justifies their investment. That
just sounds like a half a decade here in Seattle,
we've talked about that.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
One thousand times.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
So now that it's been two teams, it leads me
to ask you the question, is it the team's not
using him right or is DK just not the receiver
everybody hopes he is.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I just think it's the team's not using him right.
Look at what George Pickens has done in Dallas. The
Steelers never used him. He was frustrated, and justifiably. The
skills are there. I've seen them in Pittsburgh and they
never were able to design an offense. And we've talked
about this before when DK was in Seattle. There are
things you can do to put the ball in an
elite athlete's hands. You can do jet sweets and bubble
(08:18):
screens and all those little tricks of the trade that
will allow you to get a guy who is man
among boys talented into a position where he can have
an impact on the game. So when the Steelers made
an unprecedented move for them, They've never paid market value
to someone who previously didn't play for the team. They
have a hard time paying market value to people who
(08:39):
do play for the team. That made me think they're
going to go out of their way to try to
justify this, and they just haven't. And so far, Pickens
is having a much better year in Dallas than Metcalf
is having with the Steelers, and a lot of it
to do with the quarterback too. Aaron Rodgers has to
let it rip down the field. It can't be a
bunch of slamp passes a DK Metcalf, which is what
we see more often than not.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
What are the odds Micah Pete Carroll being one and
done in Vegas?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Well, there's two sides to this. Do the Raiders want
to bring him back? And does he want to come back?
I think he may have thought that that team was
going to be a little better equipped to compete than
it is. Is he really want to come back and
have another bad season on the tail end of his career,
And the guy who really matters in Las Vegas is
Tom Brady because Mark Davis, the owner of the team,
has made it clear that he listens to Brady. One
(09:24):
of the reasons Brady got a sweetheart deal for a
chunk of the franchise was because of his expertise. So
what Brady wants is what's going to happen. And if
Brady wants to go in another direction to coach, Mark
Data is going to listen to him and I Hey,
they started off great. They somehow beat the Patriots in
Week one. It shows you how point this week one
of the regular season is. But the Raiders have just
been a disaster and they may be the worst team
(09:45):
in football right now, even though their record is one
game better than the Titans.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, they were three and seven Dick in twenty twenty one.
That's the worst it got for him after ten games.
He's two and eight now. So this is unchartered territory.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
On They're just getting bludgeon too.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
They're not even close. This is an incredible stat Seven of
the top eight quarterback cap hits are five hundred or worse.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Right now? Does that mean anything? Can we read anything
into that?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Well, look, this is one of the realities of you know,
you get a quarterback in the draft and you decide
that he's passed over the pats Vale line, and so
we need to pay him. There are a lot of
quarterbacks out there making more money than they should, and
they need to be held to a higher standard when
they're not living up to the contract. But it does
put a burden on the rest of the team. And
even though I'm a big proponent of guys getting every
(10:33):
last dollar they can, it does have a consequence. And look,
I don't know if it's just a short term thing.
I don't know if it's a blip on the radar screen,
but it is something worth paying attention to. And I
wonder when you know, the Rams did it when they
didn't do it with Jared Goff. They did it after
they paid Jared Goff. They didn't do it in twenty
nineteen when they could. I'm waiting for a team who
(10:53):
has a guy they took in the top ten who
is good enough, but they just say, no, you know what,
We're going to do something else instead of giving you
fifty million a year, fifty five million a year, whatever
the market's going to be.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
As the cap keeps going up, Mike Florial with us,
Mike before you go, I got to tell you this
spitting thing in the NFL has got to stop. It's cowardly,
it's disgusting. We saw Jalen Carter do it, and then
we saw Jamar Chase do it. And I'm wondering if
one game is enough, man, I mean, is one game
enough for these guys that keep doing this crap?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Well, you know, the president has changed before our eyes
this season. There had never been a true suspension until
this week. The Jalen Carter quote unquote suspension was an
ejection with a fine in the amount of a game
check that simulated a suspension. Right, this is the first
time a guy who's been suspended. And I don't know
what the arguments that the appeal hearing were. I saw
(11:45):
that Chase is going to argue I didn't spit because
if I would have spit, I would have spit in
his face. I mean, some ridiculous logic like that. The
argument should have been there has never been a suspension
for spitting. You can't just change the precedent like that.
But at the end of the day, it's one hearing
officer already Nelson who made the decision. He has full
discretion to go one way or the other. He made
the decision to uphold the suspension, so there can be
(12:06):
no doubt going forward. And every team needs to explain
it to every player. Every agent needs to explain it
to their clients. If you spit on another player, you
will be suspended and you'll lose the compensation that goes
along with it. For to Mark's stays, it ends up
being over five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, that's not insignificant. All right, Mike, you're the best,
great stuff. We're talking a week see you, man, Mike.
All right, Mike Florio with us. We're going to break
factor fiction.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We are clinging to a percentage points lead in this contest.
This is a big, big day. We got to have
your perform. Man one conferred a clutch performance. Side of
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