November 20, 2024 • 13 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about Earl Thomas and the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Netflix streaming issues and the future NFL games, the Jets ongoing issues, the Giants backup quarterback situation, and the NFC West.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
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check out simply Sattle dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Now with Mike Florio, here's Softian Dick. All Right, boys
and girls, back here on a Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Chance to talk to the really, i would say, the
leader and all aspects of the NFL Press Corps, the
undisputed heavyweight champion of all NFL media, and the leader
and the founder of Pro Football Talk dot Com from
the NFL and NBC.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It's our friend, Mike Florio. How are you pel?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
You know, I know you're just being polite when you
say that, but every time you say that, it bolsters
my case for a long overdue race.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
But yeah, well, listen, we are trying to find Jackson
a new job and we're not gonna let him go
until we know he has something planned on the back end.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So nobody wants him, so he's just staying here.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, as soon as we can find Jackson a gig.
You're getting your raise. I promise you.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I would give it until Christmas, even if he doesn't
have another job by that. I would fire him on Christmas.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Fine, I find Christmas day? How about that? Give him
some damn hope.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Hey, the bless everyone.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
The modern era semi finalists for the Hall of Fame
have been announced, and Earl Thomas is on the list
of former Seahawk And look, I know we've talked about
your thoughts on the Hall of Fame before, but let's
let's put those aside for a second. Does does Earl
Thomas strike you? Does he strike you as a Hall
of Fame player in your mind?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Not first ballot? But what the hell do I know?
I don't have a vote.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't want to vote.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I wouldn't take a vote if they tried to give
me one. It is an enormous time drain. Charen Williams
from PFT is involved in that, and a few times
a year she ends up being tied up for a
whole day. I can't sit still long enough to listen
to a bunch of other media people bloviate. Now, if
I'm the one bloviating, that's fine, but I don't want
anyone else to be bloviating, so I'm not interested. It
(02:02):
seems like maybe he gets in at some point. I
don't know. I'd have to do the research. I have
to look at number of all pros. I'd have to
hear the k sport is if theyre with Troy Polamalo
and Ed Reid. I don't know. I don't Things kind
of fizzle out for him pretty dramatically. Once he lost
his fastball, he really lost it. Does he have the longevity?
I just have to look into it, because I really
(02:22):
don't care about it. I haven't looked into it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, I get it, Mike.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
What level of panics should the league have that the
next Netflix servers won't be able to handle Christmas Day
games after what we saw with the Tyson fight.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Well, I don't know that panic is the right word,
because they're in a position to avoid panic. They're in
a position to ensure that whatever it was that went
wrong on Friday Night won't go wrong five weeks from today,
when it's Chiefs at Steelers and Ravens at Texans. So
as Brian Rolapped ahead of NFL media said today at
(02:58):
an event in New York. Basically, it's good that it
happened now and that this fight was scheduled what it
was for a reason. Remember, originally was gonna happen in July,
so they get it done five and a half weeks
before the arrival of the Christmas Games, and they can
diagnose the problem, they can throw enough money at it
to fix it, and you trust that they have the
(03:19):
expertise to make it happen. But I don't know, is
the second time they've had a live stream debacle. They
had that what is that one of their reality dating shows.
They were doing a reunion and a big live event,
and it was a complete and total mess. So we'll see,
we'll see, but it was definitely a mess. On Friday,
the video was greeny. I was buffering at one point
(03:41):
it crashed. Now, once the fight started, it was generally okay,
which was bad because I really didn't want to see
the fight. The moment that I saw the physique of
Mike Tyson, I realized this was a mistake and watching it,
even though I was kind of rooting for Mike Tyson
despite is off the ring history, it was a nostage
of play for those of us who came of age
(04:03):
in the eighties and Mike Tomlins just pounding the crap
out of everyone. But it was boring and beyond the
technical realities of it. I wish I had that half
hour in my life that.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Mike Florio's with us on the radio show, who always
wishes he has this ten minutes of his life back.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He spends with us every Wednesday here at three ten
Pacific time.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But Mike, the Jets fired Joe Douglas six weeks after
they fire Robert Sala. Now they need a head coach
and a GM. What does that mean for Aaron Rodgers'
future there?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Well, you know it's funny because he said just last
week he thinks he wants to continue to play next year.
And one of the points I made, there's no guarantee
the Jets are going to want you. We already knew
at the time there's going to be a new coach.
We were suspecting there'd be a change in GM. Although
Joe Douglass, hell the job, put together a pretty talented team,
so talented that Whatdy Johnson said when he fired Robert Sala,
(04:54):
this is the most talented team in the twenty five
years I've owned the Jets, but now they've got clean slate.
I don't think Aaron Rodgers is going to be back.
And the fact that Woody Johnson suggested benching him after
a Week four loss to the Broncos, and I've confirmed that,
and I know there's different interpretations out there he was joking.
I mean, I don't know where the punchline is if
that was a joke, But regardless, there's an audience of
(05:17):
one Aaron Rodgers. What does he think about this joke?
What does he think about whether or not Woody Johnson
actually wanted or suggested benching Aaron Rodgers. I just think
come the end of the season, there will not be
a continuation. The question I have at what point between
now and Week eighteen does Aaron Rodgers say, you know what,
I am so banged up from a variety of injuries.
(05:39):
I'm just not going to force myself to play through it.
We're not playing for anything. And if my owner is
going to have these thoughts about me that I never
knew about until it was leaked to the media, I
just don't want to play.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Talk to me about a couple of NFC East quarterback
situations and why the Giants are starting Tommy DeVito and
not their backup Drew Locke to replace Daniel Jones. And
the same question with the Cowboys, why do we have
Rush starting instead of Trey Lance Because isn't that the
exact opportunity you would want to give a Trey Lance
too if you were the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well, first, as to the Giant situation, and you know,
football fans want to hear this statement as much as
wrestling fans wanted to hear before everybody acknowledged that it's fake,
that it's fake. I remember when I was a kid
and my dad would tell me it's all fake. I
would get mad at him. I didn't want to hear that.
I kind of knew it deep down. I didn't want
(06:32):
to hear it. Football is a business, and fans don't
want to hear that. They think that every team is
trying to win every game in pursuit of every Super
Bowl championship, and it's all about the purity of competition
and business considerations have nothing to do with it. Well,
two separate business considerations came together here. Number One, Daniel
Jones is a contract with twenty three million in injury
guarantees that will be owed to him next year, and
(06:55):
they can't cut him while he's still injured, and even
million of it becomes vested in March. So if he
has an injury over the balance of the season that
prevents him a passing physical by March, the eleven millions gone.
The other twelve million. If he's not able to pass
the physical by the start of the regular season, that's gone.
So we're done with him. We're gonna cut him after
the season. We put him in bubble wrap, just like
(07:16):
the Broncos did last year with Russell Wilson, although earlier
in the calendar than that. And then they ignore the
depth chart. They skip over the number two, the guy
who was still number two through the game before the
bye week. They didn't demote Drew Locke for Tommy DeVito,
but they got four home games left. It's a lost season.
Let's give rip people what they want. And those folks
(07:40):
in New Jersey, they want Tommy Gabba gul out there
and they want him doing the hand yesterre and they
want the whole production. And that's what this is all about.
Playing and simple, this is about business. This is about
save and twenty three millions and trying to squeeze some
more cash out of a lost season. With the veto
out there doing Tommy DeVito's things in along the way way,
they get an evaluation of him decide whether or not
(08:02):
he's the guy they want to go with next year.
But I don't think he is because they saw enough
last year and he was still number three on the
depth chart.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Jim Harbass said Justin Herbert, it's one of the best
quarterbacks of all time. He also said JJ McCarthy was
the best Michigan quarterback of all time. Is this just
him pumping his own guys up and being a great
leader for his quarterback or does he actually have a
case on Justin Herbert.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Very few quarterbacks have the natural personality where they walk
into the room and everybody stops what they're doing. Tom Brady,
Peyton Manning. Not many guys are natural born leaders like that.
And a coach explained to me several years ago, when
a guy isn't naturally the guy, when he's not naturally
(08:46):
the sheriff who just takes over every circumstance he's in,
you have to treat him that way so others view
him that way. If people aren't going to naturally view
him that way. You need to talk everyone else into
thinking that it's true. That's part of the game. That's
how you prop a guy up. And you know, I
don't know what the Lions did to press the buttons
(09:08):
on Jared Goff to get him to play like the
best quarterback in football. They didn't do a lot of
it publicly. But every coach is different, and every style
is different. Hardball's style is too overtly cheerlead for his
quarterback and sing his praises. And whoever plays quarterbacks for
him is going to be loyal and is going to
listen to him, and is going to feel a connection
(09:30):
because he knows that his coach is going to be
out there every single day telling anyone who'll listen, and
plenty who don't care how great this guy is.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Mike is the pendulum now swinging from running backs are
a dime a dozen now too. You know, running backs
might be kind of important because of what Joe Mixon,
Derrick Henry, and Saguon Barkley are doing with their new teams.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Well, I think both things can be true. Running Backs
who can move the chains to score touchdowns general eight
one thousand yards. Those guys are everywhere, and that dawned
on me twenty years ago. We used to go to
the West Virginia games every weekend, and I realized, over
the course of time, you know what, every year, we
got a guy who can play in the NFL. If
you block for him, if you can trust them to
(10:14):
hold onto the football, and if he can handle blitz
pick up, he can play in the NFL. And those
guys are everywhere. Supply out ways as a man, but
the list of truly special running backs is short, and
if you have one of those guys, you can't treat
him like the other guys. That's what the Giants did
with Barkley, It's what the Titans did with Derrick Henry,
(10:35):
It's what the Bengals did with Joe Mixon. And ad
to Henry and Mixon. I think part of it also
was they're getting toward the end of their useful life.
We can't make this financial investment and guys are about
to fall apart. And it's also possible that all three
guys are rejuvenated because their original team didn't want them.
We're all motivated by various things, real and perceived. But
both of those three guys can have this legitimate idea
(10:58):
that you know what, I was disrespected, I wasn't wanted,
and I'm going to go out there and I'm going
to prove to everyone that I can still do it.
And that may be why all three of them are
having such great years.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
All right, Mike, before you go, music to your ears.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Last question, Cardinals coming to town Sunday, Hawks coming off
to win in San Francisco, Cardinals in first place, Hawks
a game back. How good is this Cardinal football team?
Honestly that we'll see on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I think they're better than anyone thinks. And what happens
is a team develops a reputation. That reputation gets attached
to their overall look, to their uniforms, everything about them,
and it takes a while for people to accept that
they're good. Now. I think the Bengals went through that.
You know, there are teams over the years that have
kind of risen up and become competitive, and we can't
(11:49):
get our brains to accept it. And I think the
NFL is currently in the process of forcing itself to
accept the fact that, hey, the Bengals are pretty the Bengals,
the Cardinals are pretty good, right, now because they are
Kyler Murray comeback Player of the Year, possible MVP depending
upon where they go from here. They only have a
one game lead over the rest of the division. But
they're not a team to look down, you know that anymore,
(12:11):
And they had been, you know, for most of the
last six or seven years. Even though they made it
to the playoffs in twenty twenty one, they weren't competitive
against the Rams in that wild card game. So they
need to be taken seriously. And this is a fascinating
decision a division. We tried to break it down on
PFT Love yesterday. Who finishes fourth, third, second? First, I've
got it, Rams first, Seahawks second, Cardinals third, No, Rams, Cardinals,
(12:34):
Seahawks sorry, and then the forty nine ers in fourth?
But who knows? Who knows? They're all bunched together. It's
going to be fun to watch over the next seven
is there seven weeks? Last? What week? Is it? Twelve? Yep?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Seven games left? Twelve yep?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Damn? Seven games least? This season has rocketed by I
can't I really, I don't know what dat is. I
don't know what we get it. I think I know
what year it is, but I don't want to get
some guts wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, well above what we're getting multiple texts about job
offers for Jackson, so you might be inch and closer
to getting that race. We'll have an update for you
next week. All right, yeah, alright man, good stuff. We'll
talking to you. But Mike Florial with us on the
radio show. Jackson were kidding, by the way, but don't
tell Mike that. I mean, he actually thinks he's getting
fired to give him a raise. I'm telling you, I
don't know. I don't know what you guys would do without.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Me, So.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Not get yelled at is what we do. We'll get
a break.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
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It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest sonics collection in the world,
check out simply Sattle dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Now with Mike Florio, here's Softian Dick. All Right, boys
and girls, back here on a Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Chance to talk to the really, i would say, the
leader and all aspects of the NFL Press Corps, the
undisputed heavyweight champion of all NFL media, and the leader
and the founder of Pro Football Talk dot Com from
the NFL and NBC.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It's our friend, Mike Florio. How are you pel?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
You know, I know you're just being polite when you
say that, but every time you say that, it bolsters
my case for a long overdue race.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
But yeah, well, listen, we are trying to find Jackson
a new job and we're not gonna let him go
until we know he has something planned on the back end.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So nobody wants him, so he's just staying here.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, as soon as we can find Jackson a gig.
You're getting your raise. I promise you.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I would give it until Christmas, even if he doesn't
have another job by that. I would fire him on Christmas.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Fine, I find Christmas day? How about that? Give him
some damn hope.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Hey, the bless everyone.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
The modern era semi finalists for the Hall of Fame
have been announced, and Earl Thomas is on the list
of former Seahawk And look, I know we've talked about
your thoughts on the Hall of Fame before, but let's
let's put those aside for a second. Does does Earl
Thomas strike you? Does he strike you as a Hall
of Fame player in your mind?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Not first ballot? But what the hell do I know?
I don't have a vote.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't want to vote.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I wouldn't take a vote if they tried to give
me one. It is an enormous time drain. Charen Williams
from PFT is involved in that, and a few times
a year she ends up being tied up for a
whole day. I can't sit still long enough to listen
to a bunch of other media people bloviate. Now, if
I'm the one bloviating, that's fine, but I don't want
anyone else to be bloviating, so I'm not interested. It
(02:02):
seems like maybe he gets in at some point. I
don't know. I'd have to do the research. I have
to look at number of all pros. I'd have to
hear the k sport is if theyre with Troy Polamalo
and Ed Reid. I don't know. I don't Things kind
of fizzle out for him pretty dramatically. Once he lost
his fastball, he really lost it. Does he have the longevity?
I just have to look into it, because I really
(02:22):
don't care about it. I haven't looked into it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, I get it, Mike.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
What level of panics should the league have that the
next Netflix servers won't be able to handle Christmas Day
games after what we saw with the Tyson fight.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Well, I don't know that panic is the right word,
because they're in a position to avoid panic. They're in
a position to ensure that whatever it was that went
wrong on Friday Night won't go wrong five weeks from today,
when it's Chiefs at Steelers and Ravens at Texans. So
as Brian Rolapped ahead of NFL media said today at
(02:58):
an event in New York. Basically, it's good that it
happened now and that this fight was scheduled what it
was for a reason. Remember, originally was gonna happen in July,
so they get it done five and a half weeks
before the arrival of the Christmas Games, and they can
diagnose the problem, they can throw enough money at it
to fix it, and you trust that they have the
(03:19):
expertise to make it happen. But I don't know, is
the second time they've had a live stream debacle. They
had that what is that one of their reality dating shows.
They were doing a reunion and a big live event,
and it was a complete and total mess. So we'll see,
we'll see, but it was definitely a mess. On Friday,
the video was greeny. I was buffering at one point
(03:41):
it crashed. Now, once the fight started, it was generally okay,
which was bad because I really didn't want to see
the fight. The moment that I saw the physique of
Mike Tyson, I realized this was a mistake and watching it,
even though I was kind of rooting for Mike Tyson
despite is off the ring history, it was a nostage
of play for those of us who came of age
(04:03):
in the eighties and Mike Tomlins just pounding the crap
out of everyone. But it was boring and beyond the
technical realities of it. I wish I had that half
hour in my life that.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Mike Florio's with us on the radio show, who always
wishes he has this ten minutes of his life back.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He spends with us every Wednesday here at three ten
Pacific time.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But Mike, the Jets fired Joe Douglas six weeks after
they fire Robert Sala. Now they need a head coach
and a GM. What does that mean for Aaron Rodgers'
future there?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Well, you know it's funny because he said just last
week he thinks he wants to continue to play next year.
And one of the points I made, there's no guarantee
the Jets are going to want you. We already knew
at the time there's going to be a new coach.
We were suspecting there'd be a change in GM. Although
Joe Douglass, hell the job, put together a pretty talented team,
so talented that Whatdy Johnson said when he fired Robert Sala,
(04:54):
this is the most talented team in the twenty five
years I've owned the Jets, but now they've got clean slate.
I don't think Aaron Rodgers is going to be back.
And the fact that Woody Johnson suggested benching him after
a Week four loss to the Broncos, and I've confirmed that,
and I know there's different interpretations out there he was joking.
I mean, I don't know where the punchline is if
that was a joke, But regardless, there's an audience of
(05:17):
one Aaron Rodgers. What does he think about this joke?
What does he think about whether or not Woody Johnson
actually wanted or suggested benching Aaron Rodgers. I just think
come the end of the season, there will not be
a continuation. The question I have at what point between
now and Week eighteen does Aaron Rodgers say, you know what,
I am so banged up from a variety of injuries.
(05:39):
I'm just not going to force myself to play through it.
We're not playing for anything. And if my owner is
going to have these thoughts about me that I never
knew about until it was leaked to the media, I
just don't want to play.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Talk to me about a couple of NFC East quarterback
situations and why the Giants are starting Tommy DeVito and
not their backup Drew Locke to replace Daniel Jones. And
the same question with the Cowboys, why do we have
Rush starting instead of Trey Lance Because isn't that the
exact opportunity you would want to give a Trey Lance
too if you were the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well, first, as to the Giant situation, and you know,
football fans want to hear this statement as much as
wrestling fans wanted to hear before everybody acknowledged that it's fake,
that it's fake. I remember when I was a kid
and my dad would tell me it's all fake. I
would get mad at him. I didn't want to hear that.
I kind of knew it deep down. I didn't want
(06:32):
to hear it. Football is a business, and fans don't
want to hear that. They think that every team is
trying to win every game in pursuit of every Super
Bowl championship, and it's all about the purity of competition
and business considerations have nothing to do with it. Well,
two separate business considerations came together here. Number One, Daniel
Jones is a contract with twenty three million in injury
guarantees that will be owed to him next year, and
(06:55):
they can't cut him while he's still injured, and even
million of it becomes vested in March. So if he
has an injury over the balance of the season that
prevents him a passing physical by March, the eleven millions gone.
The other twelve million. If he's not able to pass
the physical by the start of the regular season, that's gone.
So we're done with him. We're gonna cut him after
the season. We put him in bubble wrap, just like
(07:16):
the Broncos did last year with Russell Wilson, although earlier
in the calendar than that. And then they ignore the
depth chart. They skip over the number two, the guy
who was still number two through the game before the
bye week. They didn't demote Drew Locke for Tommy DeVito,
but they got four home games left. It's a lost season.
Let's give rip people what they want. And those folks
(07:40):
in New Jersey, they want Tommy Gabba gul out there
and they want him doing the hand yesterre and they
want the whole production. And that's what this is all about.
Playing and simple, this is about business. This is about
save and twenty three millions and trying to squeeze some
more cash out of a lost season. With the veto
out there doing Tommy DeVito's things in along the way way,
they get an evaluation of him decide whether or not
(08:02):
he's the guy they want to go with next year.
But I don't think he is because they saw enough
last year and he was still number three on the
depth chart.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Jim Harbass said Justin Herbert, it's one of the best
quarterbacks of all time. He also said JJ McCarthy was
the best Michigan quarterback of all time. Is this just
him pumping his own guys up and being a great
leader for his quarterback or does he actually have a
case on Justin Herbert.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Very few quarterbacks have the natural personality where they walk
into the room and everybody stops what they're doing. Tom Brady,
Peyton Manning. Not many guys are natural born leaders like that.
And a coach explained to me several years ago, when
a guy isn't naturally the guy, when he's not naturally
(08:46):
the sheriff who just takes over every circumstance he's in,
you have to treat him that way so others view
him that way. If people aren't going to naturally view
him that way. You need to talk everyone else into
thinking that it's true. That's part of the game. That's
how you prop a guy up. And you know, I
don't know what the Lions did to press the buttons
(09:08):
on Jared Goff to get him to play like the
best quarterback in football. They didn't do a lot of
it publicly. But every coach is different, and every style
is different. Hardball's style is too overtly cheerlead for his
quarterback and sing his praises. And whoever plays quarterbacks for
him is going to be loyal and is going to
listen to him, and is going to feel a connection
(09:30):
because he knows that his coach is going to be
out there every single day telling anyone who'll listen, and
plenty who don't care how great this guy is.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Mike is the pendulum now swinging from running backs are
a dime a dozen now too. You know, running backs
might be kind of important because of what Joe Mixon,
Derrick Henry, and Saguon Barkley are doing with their new teams.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Well, I think both things can be true. Running Backs
who can move the chains to score touchdowns general eight
one thousand yards. Those guys are everywhere, and that dawned
on me twenty years ago. We used to go to
the West Virginia games every weekend, and I realized, over
the course of time, you know what, every year, we
got a guy who can play in the NFL. If
you block for him, if you can trust them to
(10:14):
hold onto the football, and if he can handle blitz
pick up, he can play in the NFL. And those
guys are everywhere. Supply out ways as a man, but
the list of truly special running backs is short, and
if you have one of those guys, you can't treat
him like the other guys. That's what the Giants did
with Barkley, It's what the Titans did with Derrick Henry,
(10:35):
It's what the Bengals did with Joe Mixon. And ad
to Henry and Mixon. I think part of it also
was they're getting toward the end of their useful life.
We can't make this financial investment and guys are about
to fall apart. And it's also possible that all three
guys are rejuvenated because their original team didn't want them.
We're all motivated by various things, real and perceived. But
both of those three guys can have this legitimate idea
(10:58):
that you know what, I was disrespected, I wasn't wanted,
and I'm going to go out there and I'm going
to prove to everyone that I can still do it.
And that may be why all three of them are
having such great years.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
All right, Mike, before you go, music to your ears.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Last question, Cardinals coming to town Sunday, Hawks coming off
to win in San Francisco, Cardinals in first place, Hawks
a game back. How good is this Cardinal football team?
Honestly that we'll see on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I think they're better than anyone thinks. And what happens
is a team develops a reputation. That reputation gets attached
to their overall look, to their uniforms, everything about them,
and it takes a while for people to accept that
they're good. Now. I think the Bengals went through that.
You know, there are teams over the years that have
kind of risen up and become competitive, and we can't
(11:49):
get our brains to accept it. And I think the
NFL is currently in the process of forcing itself to
accept the fact that, hey, the Bengals are pretty the Bengals,
the Cardinals are pretty good, right, now because they are
Kyler Murray comeback Player of the Year, possible MVP depending
upon where they go from here. They only have a
one game lead over the rest of the division. But
they're not a team to look down, you know that anymore,
(12:11):
And they had been, you know, for most of the
last six or seven years. Even though they made it
to the playoffs in twenty twenty one, they weren't competitive
against the Rams in that wild card game. So they
need to be taken seriously. And this is a fascinating
decision a division. We tried to break it down on
PFT Love yesterday. Who finishes fourth, third, second? First, I've
got it, Rams first, Seahawks second, Cardinals third, No, Rams, Cardinals,
(12:34):
Seahawks sorry, and then the forty nine ers in fourth?
But who knows? Who knows? They're all bunched together. It's
going to be fun to watch over the next seven
is there seven weeks? Last? What week? Is it? Twelve? Yep?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Seven games left? Twelve yep?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Damn? Seven games least? This season has rocketed by I
can't I really, I don't know what dat is. I
don't know what we get it. I think I know
what year it is, but I don't want to get
some guts wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, well above what we're getting multiple texts about job
offers for Jackson, so you might be inch and closer
to getting that race. We'll have an update for you
next week. All right, yeah, alright man, good stuff. We'll
talking to you. But Mike Florial with us on the
radio show. Jackson were kidding, by the way, but don't
tell Mike that. I mean, he actually thinks he's getting
fired to give him a raise. I'm telling you, I
don't know. I don't know what you guys would do without.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Me, So.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Not get yelled at is what we do. We'll get
a break.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Factor fiction brought to you by the Emerald Queen pet Roschen,
four oh.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Coming up on ninety three to three kJ RFM
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