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Speaker 3 (00:48):
How are you, Pelp.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I am doing great today, gentlemen. How are you? We
are good?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
We are good? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Are you fine? Sirs?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
We're gabulous. Thank you for asking. We can we can
just sense the sincerity in your voice.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Really care when they say how are you? Does anyone
really care? Hey, how are you? Well? If it's a friend,
you have to hear your complaining.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I would.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I don't hear about your dog. I don't want to
hear about your day. I don't want to hear about
your car. I don't want to hear about anything. I
just want to hear, fine, thank you, how are you?
And then I'll say to that fine, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And we know somebody I know he'll like, been sick
or whatever? Watch up, Yeah, you're doing I mean, even then.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm kind of a Mike. I don't really give it.
Damn if you if I know you've been ill, like, hey,
how are things for you?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Or you better? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I get that, But you're You're right, it's a useless
custom on thousand percent totally with you, mic on that
for the most part.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Let's just move on. Hey, A lot of people.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Including us, by the way, good.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Good because I was really concerned about it. A lot
of a lot of people like us. They're talking about
the mystique of lumen Field the twelfth Man. The Seahawks
are fifteen and fifteen. Mic In their last thirty games
at home. Uh, and we feel like the mostique of
lumen field for now is at least temporary.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
God, what do you think.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Well, you got to have a good team to take
advantage of a good home field advantage. I've been in
that building down on the sideline when someone was pressure
washing in advance to the twenty fourteen regular season opener
against the Packers, the year after the Seahawks won the
Super Bowl, and you could just tell that there's some
sort of design feature that takes that sound and makes
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it seem like fifty jackhammers when it's just one pressure washer.
So to get the sound to be magnified and amplified
and pointed out the field and to make the life
difficult for the opposing team, you got to have people
there who are excited to do it, and you give
them something to be excited about. You don't just like
that fuse and it goes nowhere. That fuse has to
go somewhere, And you know, if you're very inconsistent, if
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you're uneven like the Seahawks event, it's hard to muster
the kind of noise that takes advantage of that great
homefield advantage. Playing simple, and they just got to play
better and they got to win, and they got to
give the fans reason to get loud enough to make
that noise something that works for their benefits.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, and I don't think the fans were that particularly
excited after three and oh start considering how they how
they won and who they beat, and now they've just
been disastrously say.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
That after you guys, give me grief for not having
them at number two in the Power how you had
them exact same thing you had.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Them at twenty two. So that's a little bit. That's
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
But but the thing is, should the Hawks fans be
concerned about the way this team is playing. Not that
they're losing the Buffalo, but it's how they're losing, but
just looking sloppy and just uncoached.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, and it's so odd to see how well things
went in Atlanta against a very good Falcons team. It
seems to be in position to win its division and
make it to the playoffs. They go there and they
beat them by twenty and then they come home and
they just don't show up for a game against the Bills.
So the key is consistency. They've got to find who
they are, what's the identity of the offense, what's the
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identity of the team, What is the thing that makes
them great and the thing that carries them to a
point where they're stacking wins and separating from five hundred
and taking advantage of the fact that the NFC West
this year is all at five hundred or just below
three four and four teams and one three and four teams,
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So there's still plenty of time left. And you know,
there's always a team or two that's tvern around five
hundred right around Thanksgiving that starts to figure things out
and starts winning games. And you want to be in
position to do that. I mean, ideally you want to
be good wire to wire, but they're going to be
in position to find the gas pedal. But that's the
thing you need to do. Consistency, identity and just stacking wins.
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And the next thing you know, you're in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
There's a job opening for a conductor for the Russell
Wilson Comeback Hype train.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You want the job, you buy it? Are you buying
what you're seeing in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Uh? Huh?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Are you? Are you?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Well? He's doing a lot of the things that we
saw him do in Seattle, and it helps when you
get a team within identity defense and Najee Harris waking
up and playing as well as he ever has. If not,
it's better. He had three straight thousand yard seasons and
he didn't pick up a fifth year option. And now
he's starting to realize, if I'm ever going to get
paid the kind of money I'd like to get paid,
I've better bust my butt here for the rest of
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his season. He's like found a new gear. He's always
been a tough between the tackles. Get you five if
you need five, but if you need six, he's only
getting you five if that much. And I've seen more bursts.
I've seen acceleration, I've seen speed, and then that sets
the stage for Russ to cook throwing the ball down
the field. And you know, I've said since the moment
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we realized George Pickens could be a special receiver, just
throw the guy to the ball. It doesn't matter if
you don't think he's open, it doesn't matter if two
guys are coming him. Just throwing the vicinity and he'll
make the body adjustment and he'll go get it. And
that's what we're seeing it's not just pickings, it's other
guys too in that passing game, and it was beautiful
in the second half when Russ started airing it out.
And if they're able to start doing that, that makes
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the defense more giving up yarders in their own game
because they can't throw all their assets up to the
line of scrimmage. So Gil's got two weeks to get
ready for a run that is going to be challenging.
They start with the Commanders. They play all three teams
in the division twice, and the Browns are going to
be better Jamis Winston. They got the Chiefs, they get
the Eagles, so six and two they need to hold
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on to get into the postseason. I think they will.
The question is going to hold on to win the division.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Is Anthony Richardson being benched because he tapped on his
helmet and asked for out of the game.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I think it'd be foolish to assume that's not part
of it. The message that sends to the team we've
seen quarterbacks Byron left, which we need was at Marshall
picked up and carried when he had a broken leg
or some other injury where he couldn't run down the field.
They carried him down the field. He wasn't coming off
the field. Quarterbacks don't come out of the game. Brett
Favre was never going to come out of the game
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because he didn't want to give his backup a chance
to come in and play well enough to take the
job from him. So that sends a very very powerful
message in a bad way to the locker room. And
when you throw on top of that the fact that
Joe Flacco seems to be better positioned to help that
team win, you balance winning versus developing Richardson because Richardson
needs reps. He had thirteen games in college, He's got
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ten so far in the NFL. He needs reps to
get to his ceiling. He's capable of doing great things,
he just doesn't do them consistently. They're choosing to win
over developing him, because, let's face it, if they don't win,
the guys who are there running the show and coaching
the team, they might not be there to have a
chance to develop Anthony Richardson next year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Mike Florio with US Pro Football Talk dot Com ANF
on NBCPFT, there were a couple of reports that came
out last week. I think that the Rams were thinking
about moving on from Cup right, and there was even
one about them moving on from Stafford. And I watched
that Rams game over the weekend, and the way McVeigh
celebrated like they won the Super Bowl, he did not
look to me like a guy that was ready to
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give up anybody. He looks to me like a guy
that wants to make a run in the in the
NFC West. Where are the Rams right now, because they're
a game out and coming to Seattle on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, they were heads in their bets and they were
lining up possibilities for a Cooper Cup trade. I think
Matthew Stafford could have been in play, frankly. And then
they win two games in five days. The Raiders went.
I expected them to win and also picked them to
beat the Vikings kiss because I thought it was a
bad spot for Minnesota coming off of a tough game
against the Lions. But they win two games to get
the three and four, and then all of a sudden,
they're putting the toothpaste back into tube and wagging a
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finger at the people who accurately reported that they were
shopping Cups because now they want to be able to
say the Cup, Oh, we were never shopping you boloney.
They were. They were trying to find a deal to
move on from Cooper Cup, and they decided, Hey, you
know what, we might actually make it to the playoffs
this year. We're not going to give up on this season.
So that's where they are, and that's why you know
the trade deadline being where it is the two day
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after Week nine. Every additional week of football can change everything,
and we got one more week that can change the
way a team views itself, whether it's got a fork
stuck in it or it feels like a contender. After
the dust settles on Week nine, that's when we know
for sure which teams can safely say they're done and
which teams can safely say, maybe we should go out
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there and address one of our needs in order to
try to get to the postseason.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Just when you think you've seen everything in the NFL,
you see a defensive back not paying any attention to
a Hail Mary and taunting the crowd while Jaden Daniels
is running around. Did Tyreek Stevenson receive a fine? Did
he receive anything for that other than ridicule from the
national media.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
If there's been any internal discipline, I haven't heard about
it yet. Look, this is a failure of the players,
but it's also a failure of coaching, because part of
the coaching is to make sure that everybody knows what
they're supposed to do in a hail Mary setting. It
can't just be an oh, by the way, they're never
going to connect on this thing. Just go out and
go through the motions. Everyone has to have clear assignment
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depts and know what they are. And you have to
have somebody deeper than the deepest guy. Because once that
ball tip like it was, and Noel Brown gets ready
to catch it, the pass interference rule goes off when
it's tipped. You can just wipe him out at that
point and keep him from catching the ball when no
one's back there. That's what's so weird about Usually it's
this sea of hands and somehow someone comes down with
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the ball and maybe you can see it happen, and
maybe you can't. To have a tip and a guy
standing back there. Look what I found. I've never seen
that before. So that had two aspects that I've never
seen before. And then you throw on the fact that
Jadon Dane has held the ball for twelve point seventy
nine second, had at least two holes that were uncalled.
It helped him run around, you know. It makes it
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a memorable play, memorable in a good way for the
Commanders and memorable in a bad way for the Bears.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So if the Jets just fall apart and are like
two and eight in a couple of weeks, which they
could be, does Rogers just shut it down say the
hell with it?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Well, I'm intrigued by two things. One, if they lose
Tomorrow night and they're favored somehow, let's put these Vegas
knows that the rest of us don't. Or people just
betting on the Jets thinking they have to finally win
another game, and they beat the Texans last year thirty
to six. I don't get it. But it gives Amiko Ryans,
the coach of the Texans, great spodder to get his
players fired up. But if they would lose Thursday night
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and a contender loses a starting quarterback over the weekend,
I wonder if there's going to be a late push
by Rogers the quarterback to ask Rogers the GM for
a trade. But let's assume that doesn't happen. I think
at some point he just disappears on IR and never
comes back. And that's it for Aaron Rodgers in New York.
And that's probably it for Aaron Rodgers in the NFL,
because I don't see a team next year, saying, let's
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pin our hopes to a guy whose best years are
fading deep into the rearview mirror. It can't stay healthy,
and he's not as good as he used to be,
and we've got other options out there to look forward
instead of backward at a guy who who I think
we can fairly say he's never going to reclaim the
level of play consistently that we saw from him in
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his time with the Green Bay Package.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Never Mike, great stuff, Always enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
We'll talking a week thanks for He got Mike Florio
of us on the radio show. Got a lot more
to get to on a busy Wednesday from the five
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we got Harlan, we got Brian Schmitzer, we got Mike McDonald.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
What more do you want? For God's sakes? We got Jackson.
The whole teams together.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yay.
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