November 12, 2025 • 12 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the Seahawks game in Los Angeles this weekend, the Giants quarterbacks, Buffalo leadership jobs, Klint Kubiak’s hireability after this year in Seattle, plus Joe Burrow status for a return.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Cracking Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest Sonics collection in the world,
check out simply Seattle dot com now with Mike Florio.
(00:21):
Here's Softy and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, here we go and am busy Wednesday. Big
thanks to our friends at simply Seattle dot com. Baby,
simply the best place to find all your cracking gear,
Seahawk gear, Mariner gear, Husky gear, anything for the holidays.
Being out your shopping now and always use Codekjr. Fifteen
at checkout at simply Seattle dot com. Here he is
the king of all NFL media, the undisputed heavyweight champion
(00:45):
of the NFL Presscorp, Pro Football Talk dot Com, NFL
and NBC. My good friend, Michael Florio, how are you, pal? Hello, ah,
good to hear your voice. Let's talk about the Seahawks. Man,
pretty impressive back to back weeks, just annihilating Arizona and
the Commanders. I saw you moving them up your rankings
(01:05):
and your power poll. Sounds like the league is starting
to take notice of what's happening out here in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well on the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
The Big Ones comes this weekend in a game that
for some reason is in that late afternoon regional window,
the four h five eastern one oh five Pacific start
that'll be broadcast to a portion of the country. You know,
they do the flexing now for Sunday, Mondays and Thursdays,
but it doesn't start until a few weeks from now
(01:36):
for Monday and Thursday. I think one thing they need
to do going forwards, they need to be careful about
the games they schedule in November because by November the
bad teams are known. Why do we have the Raiders
in back to back frontime games? Why why are we
going to have the Raiders and Cowboys Monday Night when
there are five or six games that could have been
moved from this Sunday that would be far better, including
(01:57):
what I think is one of the best games of
the day other than Lions Eagles and became Peacawks seven
o'clock eastern, four o'clock Pacific.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Coverage begins on those two platforms. But other than that one.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
This is the game of the weekend because you look
at these two games, all right, whoever wins Lions Eagle
and whoever wins Seahawks Rams, those two teams are going
to be for now penciled in as the primary number
one seed contenders in the NFC.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Totally agree, And you know, I'm just not ready to
steal a term from Denny Green. I'm not ready to
crown their ass until they face a quarterback, the caliber
of a quarterback they'll actually face in January in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Is that an unreasonable position? No, No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I mean, Matthew Stafford is having an MVP season. You've
got nineteen touchdown passes and no picks the last three games.
First guy ever to have three straight games with four
more touchdown passes and no interceptions. So this is a
high end team. This is the team that's currently number
one in the all important and completely binding PFC Power rankings.
In the LA Rams.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They've got a great defense.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
They've got four games already this year we have held
the opponent to ten points or fewer. So they're balanced,
they're good, and the Seahawks, if they can win this one.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, people are going to be.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Paying attention and they're going to move up from six.
They probably should be higher than six. But you know,
there's an old school ap UPI college football poll field
of this.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Where as you're climbing, no matter.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
How good you are, you got to wait for the
teams in front of you to lose. And that's kind
of where the Seahawks are right now. They're waiting for
the teams in front of him to lose.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
As they keep winning.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
What do you make of what happened in New York
over the weekend? Brian Dable fired Jamis Winston elevated to
number two. He'll start because Jackson Dart's got the concussion,
and that means all Russell Wilson, it's gonna be the
third stringer. I don't know if you saw the video
of his postgame interaction with the media mic after the game,
but he did. The guy just looks freaking beat down, dude,
(03:54):
beat down. Is this the end of the line you
think for Russell Wilson well as a starter?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yes, now, so if he's willing to continue to collect
an NFL paycheck to be a number two or number
three quarterback, then he could make the minimum more four
or five million.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I was surprised that the Giants signed and the Steelers
wanted nothing to do with him. And there's connections between
the two franchises, Pittsburgh and New York, family connections. I
don't know what the Giants did by way of their
homework on finding out why the Steelers didn't want Russell Wilson.
You know, the Steelers initially said that between Justin Fields
and Russell Wilson, eight want to keep one of the other.
(04:31):
And then the moment Justin Field signed with the Jets,
there was no further mention of Russell Wilson. So I
think it's over for him as a starter without questions.
It already was over for him even before he started
a single.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Game this year. I don't know why or how that happened.
And hey, he's had his career.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
He's been very effective. You know, he's one of those
guys who said he wanted to play until he's forty five.
Father time is not going to allow you to play
until forty five. If your game is heavily premised on mobility,
if it's your arm with minimum mobility, you can make
it past the age of forty. But we're seeing with
Russell Wilson, once the legs start to go, the game
goes with him.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Is Dabel destined for a coordinator position? Or if Buffalo
fails to reach their goals this year, would they consider
replacing Sean McDermott with Dabol and reuniting him with Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Well, there's never been any tangible noise out of Buffalo
that owner Terry Pegoula is sufficiently bothered by the annual
failure to get to a Super Bowl to make changes.
But I think there are fair questions to be asked
about who's to blame for the inability of the Bills
to maximize the fact that they've got a generational talent
in Josh Allen, And you could argue they don't have
(05:41):
enough help around him, which is a GM Brandon Bean problem.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
You can argue that.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
The coaching isn't good enough, which is a head coach
Sean McDermott problem. You could send them both out the
door and start over again. And I'm a big proponent
in no half measures when it comes to coaching GM.
I think that to have the most properly functioning organization,
it has to be both coach and GM stay or
both coach and GM go, because if either guy believes
(06:09):
there's an avenue to safety, if the other guy takes
the fall, when things start to go sideways, and for
most teams they go sideways at some point, each guy
has an incentive to try to blame the other and
that creates a mess.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And that's what the Giants did, That's.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
What the Dolphins did recently, and I just don't like that.
I'm not saying Joe Shane should be fired by the Giants.
I'm just saying you either fire both or you fire neither.
And that's going to be a question in Buffalo if
Terry Pergula decides this.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Eight years Josh Allen and.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
No Super Bowl appearance means it's time to make changes.
And hey, there's going to be some names available. You've
already got Dave Ball out there. Matt Lafleur could be
in trouble in Green Bay if they don't make the
playoffs because the new president of the team had policy
had said no new contracts this year from the floor
or the GM. Bryan Goudikunz and signed through twenty twenty six,
(07:01):
and policies made it clear he's not a fan of
lane duck seasons, so they're going to be upper out
after this year.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So you never know who's going to be available for
the Giants.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
You never know where of the job is going to
come open. It could be a crazy coach thereself.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Mike Florio with US Courtesia simply Seattle every Wednesday at
three ten here on the program, and Mike, I think
there's a little bit of a dearth of real, super
sexy candidates to be head coaches these days, and not
just in the NFL. Yeah, good word, I look it
up by it. Yeah, the same thing in college football, right.
(07:34):
There's just not a lot of big name candidates. And
I wonder when you have a team like the Seahawks,
who has the second best point differential in football. Dick
and I have both met Clint Kubiak in person. He
might be a great coordinator. I don't think he's got
the goods to command to locker room in the NFL though,
personality wise as a head coach, how much of his
name do you think we're gonna hear for head coaching
(07:57):
vacancies If the offense in Seattle keeps this up.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I think he will be out there and he will
get interviews because of said dearth as it relates to
candidates for both NFL jobs and big time college jobs. Look,
there's no Ben Johnson this year. There's no clear and
obvious guy who's been on the radar screen for multiple
seasons and now it's his time to ascend. And Clint
Kubiak isn't anyone we expected to be on.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
The radar this year. And this is how it happens.
You know, the.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Owners really don't know what to do and they don't
want to admit to anyone, including themselves.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
They don't know what to do. So the media is
the one to give life to.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
These candidates and one of the sneaky persuasive tools. And
it shows you how much power they have the people
who determine the shots during games, and how many sideline
images or booth images we're going to have of coordinators
that can take on the life of its own and
that can create something out of nothing for some of
these guys.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
But when you look.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
At what the Seahawks offense is doing, yes, there's going
to be some interviews for Clint Koby I can end.
It's up to him to convince an owner to give
it a shop Becare's always a risk the coordinator who's
never been a head coach before doesn't have the skill set.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It's a very different.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Job, and for every guy that makes it, the guy
that never should have had the opportunity, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Mike, do you really buy the Joe Burro's going to
come back a month early and play on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Well?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I do, because look, and I don't want to be
any more of a jerk than I already am. But
we just accept these initial reports that come out about
a guy's expected absences gospel truth. I mean, the insiders
just passing along whatever the agent tells them. You can
tell them anything and they'll just rush to Twitter with it,
(09:39):
because the whole objective is to be the first one
to thumb out the text or copy and paste it,
as some of them do. Because I know because I've
gotten the same text and I've seen it word for
word copied and pasted into someone's Twitter message.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But that's all it's about. It's not about accuracy.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
You know, when JJ McCarthy hurt his ankle, they're prevailing
report two to four weeks. Well, we ended up missing
seven weeks before we played again, and the initial reports
for Burrow was mid December at the earliest, Breathels reporting
Monday Night Football HAF time mid December at the earliest.
And by the time the guy comes back, we've all
forgotten it. And I think there is a chance he's
(10:16):
going to come back, because when you open that twenty
one day window to practice for a guy who's on IR,
if he isn't added to the fifty three man roster
at the end of the twenty one days, he goes
to IR for the rest of the season. So I
don't think the Bengals are playing a game here. I
think they're getting this guy ready to play Thanksgiving Night
on NBC and Peacocks Ravens Bengals, and the Bengals actually
(10:37):
have a way to pull an inside straight and win
that division.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
They're a game behind the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Two games behind the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
They're beating the Steels. You get a crack out of
it again this weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
They still have two games against the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
They could win enough games to win the division.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
And no matter how bad those teams are, one of
those teams is going to host the playoff games.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
How much trouble is Sean mcdermodan in Buffalo. You think, honestly, we're.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Already talked about it. Man, are you not listening? Yeah,
I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
But you mentioned even a Smith's calaire game.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I actually am playing Solitaire on my phone. I mean,
do you think he's going to get fired? I want
you to call, That's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I think if they don't make the playoffs, he's got
a real problem. And if they do anything other than
get to the divisional round, it looks we don't know
because there's only one person who has a vote.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
This is the reality.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
The owner of the team is the one who makes
the decision, and the owner of the team is the
one who has no accountability to anyone unless than until
the fan base will collectively rise up and deprive itself
of the thing it loves like a family member and
hates like a family member. As the case may be,
They're still going to make their money. Jed York said
it after they did the Harbaugh out Jim Tonsula out
(11:43):
ship Kelly out at a press conference. He said, you
don't dismiss the owner, and that's the problem. So the
owner can do whatever he wants. The fans can be
up in arms, they can do a march, they can
they can try to launch a boycott, and it's not
going to go because those fans love that team and
they'll accept whatever the owner decides to do. And it's
going to come down to what decides to do.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You think Clint Kobie gets any run for a hit now,
I'm kidding. Hey, Mike, you're the man, great stuff, and
we're talking a week buddy, Appreciate a pal, all right,
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Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Cracking Rainiers, Sounders,
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check out simply Seattle dot com now with Mike Florio.
(00:21):
Here's Softy and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, here we go and am busy Wednesday. Big
thanks to our friends at simply Seattle dot com. Baby,
simply the best place to find all your cracking gear,
Seahawk gear, Mariner gear, Husky gear, anything for the holidays.
Being out your shopping now and always use Codekjr. Fifteen
at checkout at simply Seattle dot com. Here he is
the king of all NFL media, the undisputed heavyweight champion
(00:45):
of the NFL Presscorp, Pro Football Talk dot Com, NFL
and NBC. My good friend, Michael Florio, how are you, pal? Hello, ah,
good to hear your voice. Let's talk about the Seahawks. Man,
pretty impressive back to back weeks, just annihilating Arizona and
the Commanders. I saw you moving them up your rankings
(01:05):
and your power poll. Sounds like the league is starting
to take notice of what's happening out here in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well on the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
The Big Ones comes this weekend in a game that
for some reason is in that late afternoon regional window,
the four h five eastern one oh five Pacific start
that'll be broadcast to a portion of the country. You know,
they do the flexing now for Sunday, Mondays and Thursdays,
but it doesn't start until a few weeks from now
(01:36):
for Monday and Thursday. I think one thing they need
to do going forwards, they need to be careful about
the games they schedule in November because by November the
bad teams are known. Why do we have the Raiders
in back to back frontime games? Why why are we
going to have the Raiders and Cowboys Monday Night when
there are five or six games that could have been
moved from this Sunday that would be far better, including
(01:57):
what I think is one of the best games of
the day other than Lions Eagles and became Peacawks seven
o'clock eastern, four o'clock Pacific.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Coverage begins on those two platforms. But other than that one.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
This is the game of the weekend because you look
at these two games, all right, whoever wins Lions Eagle
and whoever wins Seahawks Rams, those two teams are going
to be for now penciled in as the primary number
one seed contenders in the NFC.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Totally agree, And you know, I'm just not ready to
steal a term from Denny Green. I'm not ready to
crown their ass until they face a quarterback, the caliber
of a quarterback they'll actually face in January in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Is that an unreasonable position? No, No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I mean, Matthew Stafford is having an MVP season. You've
got nineteen touchdown passes and no picks the last three games.
First guy ever to have three straight games with four
more touchdown passes and no interceptions. So this is a
high end team. This is the team that's currently number
one in the all important and completely binding PFC Power rankings.
In the LA Rams.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They've got a great defense.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
They've got four games already this year we have held
the opponent to ten points or fewer. So they're balanced,
they're good, and the Seahawks, if they can win this one.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, people are going to be.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Paying attention and they're going to move up from six.
They probably should be higher than six. But you know,
there's an old school ap UPI college football poll field
of this.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Where as you're climbing, no matter.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
How good you are, you got to wait for the
teams in front of you to lose. And that's kind
of where the Seahawks are right now. They're waiting for
the teams in front of him to lose.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
As they keep winning.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
What do you make of what happened in New York
over the weekend? Brian Dable fired Jamis Winston elevated to
number two. He'll start because Jackson Dart's got the concussion,
and that means all Russell Wilson, it's gonna be the
third stringer. I don't know if you saw the video
of his postgame interaction with the media mic after the game,
but he did. The guy just looks freaking beat down, dude,
(03:54):
beat down. Is this the end of the line you
think for Russell Wilson well as a starter?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yes, now, so if he's willing to continue to collect
an NFL paycheck to be a number two or number
three quarterback, then he could make the minimum more four
or five million.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I was surprised that the Giants signed and the Steelers
wanted nothing to do with him. And there's connections between
the two franchises, Pittsburgh and New York, family connections. I
don't know what the Giants did by way of their
homework on finding out why the Steelers didn't want Russell Wilson.
You know, the Steelers initially said that between Justin Fields
and Russell Wilson, eight want to keep one of the other.
(04:31):
And then the moment Justin Field signed with the Jets,
there was no further mention of Russell Wilson. So I
think it's over for him as a starter without questions.
It already was over for him even before he started
a single.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Game this year. I don't know why or how that happened.
And hey, he's had his career.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
He's been very effective. You know, he's one of those
guys who said he wanted to play until he's forty five.
Father time is not going to allow you to play
until forty five. If your game is heavily premised on mobility,
if it's your arm with minimum mobility, you can make
it past the age of forty. But we're seeing with
Russell Wilson, once the legs start to go, the game
goes with him.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Is Dabel destined for a coordinator position? Or if Buffalo
fails to reach their goals this year, would they consider
replacing Sean McDermott with Dabol and reuniting him with Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Well, there's never been any tangible noise out of Buffalo
that owner Terry Pegoula is sufficiently bothered by the annual
failure to get to a Super Bowl to make changes.
But I think there are fair questions to be asked
about who's to blame for the inability of the Bills
to maximize the fact that they've got a generational talent
in Josh Allen, And you could argue they don't have
(05:41):
enough help around him, which is a GM Brandon Bean problem.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
You can argue that.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
The coaching isn't good enough, which is a head coach
Sean McDermott problem. You could send them both out the
door and start over again. And I'm a big proponent
in no half measures when it comes to coaching GM.
I think that to have the most properly functioning organization,
it has to be both coach and GM stay or
both coach and GM go, because if either guy believes
(06:09):
there's an avenue to safety, if the other guy takes
the fall, when things start to go sideways, and for
most teams they go sideways at some point, each guy
has an incentive to try to blame the other and
that creates a mess.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And that's what the Giants did, That's.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
What the Dolphins did recently, and I just don't like that.
I'm not saying Joe Shane should be fired by the Giants.
I'm just saying you either fire both or you fire neither.
And that's going to be a question in Buffalo if
Terry Pergula decides this.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Eight years Josh Allen and.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
No Super Bowl appearance means it's time to make changes.
And hey, there's going to be some names available. You've
already got Dave Ball out there. Matt Lafleur could be
in trouble in Green Bay if they don't make the
playoffs because the new president of the team had policy
had said no new contracts this year from the floor
or the GM. Bryan Goudikunz and signed through twenty twenty six,
(07:01):
and policies made it clear he's not a fan of
lane duck seasons, so they're going to be upper out
after this year.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So you never know who's going to be available for
the Giants.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
You never know where of the job is going to
come open. It could be a crazy coach thereself.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Mike Florio with US Courtesia simply Seattle every Wednesday at
three ten here on the program, and Mike, I think
there's a little bit of a dearth of real, super
sexy candidates to be head coaches these days, and not
just in the NFL. Yeah, good word, I look it
up by it. Yeah, the same thing in college football, right.
(07:34):
There's just not a lot of big name candidates. And
I wonder when you have a team like the Seahawks,
who has the second best point differential in football. Dick
and I have both met Clint Kubiak in person. He
might be a great coordinator. I don't think he's got
the goods to command to locker room in the NFL though,
personality wise as a head coach, how much of his
name do you think we're gonna hear for head coaching
(07:57):
vacancies If the offense in Seattle keeps this up.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I think he will be out there and he will
get interviews because of said dearth as it relates to
candidates for both NFL jobs and big time college jobs. Look,
there's no Ben Johnson this year. There's no clear and
obvious guy who's been on the radar screen for multiple
seasons and now it's his time to ascend. And Clint
Kubiak isn't anyone we expected to be on.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
The radar this year. And this is how it happens.
You know, the.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Owners really don't know what to do and they don't
want to admit to anyone, including themselves.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
They don't know what to do. So the media is
the one to give life to.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
These candidates and one of the sneaky persuasive tools. And
it shows you how much power they have the people
who determine the shots during games, and how many sideline
images or booth images we're going to have of coordinators
that can take on the life of its own and
that can create something out of nothing for some of
these guys.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
But when you look.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
At what the Seahawks offense is doing, yes, there's going
to be some interviews for Clint Koby I can end.
It's up to him to convince an owner to give
it a shop Becare's always a risk the coordinator who's
never been a head coach before doesn't have the skill set.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It's a very different.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Job, and for every guy that makes it, the guy
that never should have had the opportunity, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Mike, do you really buy the Joe Burro's going to
come back a month early and play on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Well?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I do, because look, and I don't want to be
any more of a jerk than I already am. But
we just accept these initial reports that come out about
a guy's expected absences gospel truth. I mean, the insiders
just passing along whatever the agent tells them. You can
tell them anything and they'll just rush to Twitter with it,
(09:39):
because the whole objective is to be the first one
to thumb out the text or copy and paste it,
as some of them do. Because I know because I've
gotten the same text and I've seen it word for
word copied and pasted into someone's Twitter message.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But that's all it's about. It's not about accuracy.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
You know, when JJ McCarthy hurt his ankle, they're prevailing
report two to four weeks. Well, we ended up missing
seven weeks before we played again, and the initial reports
for Burrow was mid December at the earliest, Breathels reporting
Monday Night Football HAF time mid December at the earliest.
And by the time the guy comes back, we've all
forgotten it. And I think there is a chance he's
(10:16):
going to come back, because when you open that twenty
one day window to practice for a guy who's on IR,
if he isn't added to the fifty three man roster
at the end of the twenty one days, he goes
to IR for the rest of the season. So I
don't think the Bengals are playing a game here. I
think they're getting this guy ready to play Thanksgiving Night
on NBC and Peacocks Ravens Bengals, and the Bengals actually
(10:37):
have a way to pull an inside straight and win
that division.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
They're a game behind the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Two games behind the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
They're beating the Steels. You get a crack out of
it again this weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
They still have two games against the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
They could win enough games to win the division.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
And no matter how bad those teams are, one of
those teams is going to host the playoff games.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
How much trouble is Sean mcdermodan in Buffalo. You think, honestly, we're.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Already talked about it. Man, are you not listening? Yeah,
I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
But you mentioned even a Smith's calaire game.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I actually am playing Solitaire on my phone. I mean,
do you think he's going to get fired? I want
you to call, That's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I think if they don't make the playoffs, he's got
a real problem. And if they do anything other than
get to the divisional round, it looks we don't know
because there's only one person who has a vote.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
This is the reality.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
The owner of the team is the one who makes
the decision, and the owner of the team is the
one who has no accountability to anyone unless than until
the fan base will collectively rise up and deprive itself
of the thing it loves like a family member and
hates like a family member. As the case may be,
They're still going to make their money. Jed York said
it after they did the Harbaugh out Jim Tonsula out
(11:43):
ship Kelly out at a press conference. He said, you
don't dismiss the owner, and that's the problem. So the
owner can do whatever he wants. The fans can be
up in arms, they can do a march, they can
they can try to launch a boycott, and it's not
going to go because those fans love that team and
they'll accept whatever the owner decides to do. And it's
going to come down to what decides to do.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You think Clint Kobie gets any run for a hit now,
I'm kidding. Hey, Mike, you're the man, great stuff, and
we're talking a week buddy, Appreciate a pal, all right,
Mike Florio with us on the radio show We Got
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