August 8, 2024 • 12 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about having vertigo, fights happening today at Seahawks Training Camp, if Brandon Aiyuk is going to be traded, the ongoing Steelers quarterback competition, and the Sunday Ticket ruling.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest sonics collection in the world,
check out simply Seattle dot com now with Mike Florio.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Here's SOFTI and Dick all right.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
By the way, all the new Husky Big ten gear
has officially launched at simply Seattle dot com. Use coke
Kjar fifteen and check it out at simply Seattle dot com.
Here he is the King of all NFL media baby,
the nd disputed heavyweight Champ of the NFL Press Corps.
Our friend from ProFootball Talk dot com, the NFL on NBC,
(00:44):
Michael Florio, Mike Howiopel.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Good and now you can add vertigo patient.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh no, I got a buddy of mine that got that.
He said it was brutal. How are you getting through it?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Man?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I woke up in the middle of the night Monday
going into Tuesday, thinking I was dying. The entire world
was spinning vertically back and forth. I had no idea
what was happening. It went away after about ten seconds
of LA ten days, went to the er, was there
for nine hours. That was horrible. Couldn't walk, couldn't get
out of the bed. Eventually it started to get better.
(01:19):
Shuffled home, slept a lot, went and had And it's
a very low tech procedure called an Eppley maneuver. They
try to get these little crystals that are in your
inner ear that's fall out. They try to get him
to go back in so they think they made it happen.
But man, it is something and unless you have experienced that,
you have no idea what is. I had that in
(01:41):
the kidney stone. Kidney stone is one A and vertigo
is one B.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's brutal.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
That happened to my dad, and that's exactly what he said.
He called the er he thought he was dying, and
we called the ear at two o'clock in the morning,
exact same that, And it's very very scary. Well, Mike,
we're here at Seahawks practice and we just talked about
the import and how much positivity you can take from fights,
because there were multiple fights in practice today.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
We've seen it. We've seen teams get fined because of fights.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
How do you judge whether a fight is positive or
negative for a football team?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Fight shows a lack of discipline but a presence of passion.
And it's a fine line. You don't want fights, but
you do want fights. You don't want someone to get
injured during a fight. But the spirit that is reflected
and the willingness to fight is something that you can't engineer.
(02:36):
It needs to happen organically. It's a very fine line.
If it's happening too often, you've got a problem. You
want it to happen from time to time, but you
don't want anyone to get hurt. And I think it's
encouraging that the league is finally disciplining teams when these
things happened. The league's prior attitude was we exercise no
jurisdiction over these joint practices, which I think is asinine.
(02:58):
It'll be interesting to see if they start finding teams
who have fights within their own building. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, look, this is a football team that at times
last year got pushed around, got pushed around by Mike
McDonald's Ravens, for god sakes, in Baltimore. Last season, so
I'm with you. I think there's a positive for sure
that can be gleaned from all this. But speaking of positives,
at least for Seahawk fans, the Brandon ayuk ara in
San Francisco appears to be officially over. Christian McCaffrey was
on TV I think yesterday and referred to him as
(03:25):
a former.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Teammate before a deal is even done.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So can we officially now close the book you think
on ayuk and the Niners and where's he going?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I'm not sure it can be officially closed. There's still
a chance the forty nine ers at some point wake
up and say, if multiple teams are willing to pay
this guy what we're not willing to pay him and
give us something for him, maybe we should just pay
him what he wants because we don't have to give
anybody anything to keep him. So Kyle Shanahan didn't rule
out the possibility yesterday of a scenario where they get
(03:57):
a deal done. I think Mike Silver San Francisco Chronicle
hits the nail on the head with the idea that
Shanahan is exasperated.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
With the hold.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
D you think about the way the forty nine ers
have been wired the past seven years. They have a
bunch of badasses who roll out of bed and run
through a wall. And when you have a guy there
who's not taking part in that process, it undermines the
spirit you're trying to instill in the team. So I
think he's gonna win this. And the other problem is
he wants to go to the Steelers, I believe, and
(04:26):
the Steelers are offering him the least of any of
the teams that are in play, and the forty nine
Ers the least. So both the team and the player
have to kind of get to the point where they say, well,
it's going to be Pittsburgh and it's kind of like
a war of attrition where other teams are slipping out
of this and the Steelers are going to be the
only one left. It may come down to the Steelers
(04:47):
or the forty nine Ers and Ayuk find a way
to men's fences and live together.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
What type of compensation are we looking for if he
does get traded? What do you think San Francisco would get.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I think it's got to be a player and a pick.
You need something to justify the moves that will help
you win now, and without that I don't know why
you do the deal unless you're just so fed up
with him being around you're willing to make the team
worse now in the name of making it better next year.
(05:20):
Because if you were gonna trade him, you trade him
before the twenty twenty four draft, and you get help
for this season. They are consciously taking a step back
without him and getting nothing for him until next year.
So it comes down to who's got the player that
they want that they think is gonna make them better,
(05:40):
and then probably a next year's draft pick on top
of it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well, Mike Florial with us again courtesy of our friends
is simply Seattle dot Com. And I guess there's no
better way to judge who's a backup and who's the
starter than watching one guy sit out for a preseason game.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
When one guy plays, Russell.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Wilson's gonna miss the Steeler Texan game, Justin Field's gonna start.
As is there really any kind of legit chance in
your mind, Mike, that Justin Fields actually wins that starting
job and keeps it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I think it could happen, But look, they put Wilson
in what they called pole position throughout the offseason and
They're one of the few teams that when they put
out their depth chart in the preseason, it's not meaningless.
Now even when they stay it's meaningless. I still think
it has some meaning, but they don't even apply the
caveat of unofficial to it. And Wilson's number one in
fields is number two. The door's open for Fields to
(06:27):
take the job. And for Wilson, he needs to be
able to play. He needs to be able to get
acclimated in this offense. And there's a whole lot riding
on this for him. You know, there's a set of
facts where he ends up being the backup. He doesn't
play much, if at all, this year, and then next
year there's just no one that's willing to hand him
a starting job, and he's just done. I mean, if
he doesn't humble himself to go somewhere and be a
(06:49):
backup or a placeholder for a rookie who's draft or
whatever the case may be, he may just be done
after this year. I'm not saying that it's definite. I
just think once he no longer is clearcut starter, he
may not be willing to hold a clipboard. Most franchise
quarterbacks would not say I'll take whatever I can get
(07:10):
and just be a backup. Joe Flacco is one of
the rare guys who at one point was the highest
paid player in the NFL. Who's willing to take whatever
you can get just to stay in the NFL. I
don't know that Russell Wilson would do that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Mike.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I heard you the other day call the ruling in
the NFL Sunday ticket court case a crock of crap,
although you didn't use the word crap. So I can't
say it on the air, but he can say it
on text. It to me it was online, so he
can say it on the on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
So one of my favorite text emojis, I have two
text emojis, I send you one middle finger.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And one of the why is it a crock of.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Well? The judge ultimately threw the case out. Let's try
to make this as simple as I can. The judge
threw the case out because he determined that the expert
witnesses that the plane IFFs used to prove their damage
is case how much they lost by this end trust violation,
that is, the Sunday ticket package weren't reliable. He knew
ahead of time who they were. He knew ahead of
(08:06):
time what they were going to say. He allowed them
to testify. He's the gatekeeper for expert testimony. Every judge
that's presiding over any civil case. When expert witnesses are
used to provide specialized knowledge that helps prove a case,
whether it's liability or damages, you have to serve as
the gatekeeper. So he decided they were good enough, He
let them testify. The jury clearly decided they were good
(08:28):
enough and issued a verdict of four point seven billion
dollars that would have been tripled if the verdict had
become an official judgment. And then after the fact, the
judge says, and they weren't good enough, you lose because
without this expert testimony, you have no proof of damages
to the entire class. You lose case over the plantiffs
send the planets include everyone nationwide who was a consumer
(08:51):
who bought Sunday ticket. Now there are some exceptions, like
if they gave it two years part of the DirecTV package,
you're not in it. But for there's more than two
point four million or in this lawsuitude, who's lawyers proved
the Sunday ticket as it's currently constituted as an anti
trust violation, but they get nothing for it. That's why
it's a croc of chocolate, frozen yogurt emoji yah.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah or emoji on my phone sent by Mike Florio's
multiple times in the last five years.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
The Browns want a dome. Is that right? Are they
going to get it?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I don't know. I don't know. Look, all these owners
want things, and most communities give them, and Cleveland found
out the hard way what happens if you don't give
the owners what they want. And people want domes because
you want to have year round events. You want to
have NCAA Final four, you want to have concerts in
January and February. You want to have things rain or shine.
(09:46):
You don't want whether to ever be a factor in anything.
And you know that's what they're pushing for, and we'll
see if they can pull it off. But there's something
to be said about open air football AFC North. All
four teams play in the elements. It gives you an
advantage and it also creates a disadvantage. When you become
a dome team, you can win in that dome, but
when it's time to go play in the elements. You're
(10:07):
not as ready as you used to be.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
What are the chances of Vikings Wide receiver Jordan Addison
missus games. He has found asleep at the wheel, blocking
traffic on a freeway and charged with DUI.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, under the NFL substance Use policy, once the case
is over, it's a three game suspension. So the question
is how long does the case hang around? And once
he's responsible one who knows, you know, but he's got
the right to defend himself. And I don't know what
the defense would be. You know, I wasn't driving isn't
(10:42):
a defense, as anyone who watches Everybody Loves Raymond learned
the time Dever was asleep behind the wheel of a
car even though she wasn't driving because she had too
much to drink. So I wasn't driving won't cut it.
Three games is the minimum, it's the baseline. It can
go up depending upon how high BAC was, it could
go up. Point eight is the legal limit. If it's
(11:03):
higher than point one five, it can be more than
three games. So he's looking at least a three game
suspension eventually, unless he finds a way to knock this
thing out one hundred percent and be exonerated.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Hey, Mike, real quick before you go. I should have
asked you this as a follow up earlier. But giving
your law background, this decision to overturn the Sunday ticket case,
can the plaintiffs appeal that decision or is this thing final?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
No, It'll be appealed, and because of the money that's
at stake, whoever wins on appeal will push it to
the next level. This goes to the US Supreme Court
eventually and inevitably, and it's a crapshoot on appeal. There's
like twenty nine regular judges on the Ninth Circuit and
twenty three senior status judges. That's the circuit that I
think includes Washington State as well. They'll be three randomly
(11:47):
assigned to this appeal. And who those three are, what
their background is, which president appointed them. Those are all
factors in trying to figure out which way the win's blowing,
and you typically don't find out. When I was practicing law,
I had a couple of appeals in the Fourth Circuit,
which is our equivalent here in Virginia and West Virginia
of the Ninth Circuit. I found out when I showed
(12:07):
up for the oral argument. Who the judges were, but
who the judges are is going to go a long
way toward deciding whether or not this stands and whether
or not this gets overturned.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I love it, all right, man, great stuff. Get better, buddy,
and we're talking a weekle.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Thank you man, Thanks guys.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
All right, man, Mike Florial with us on the air.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Greg Bell is gonna pop over and say hello, give
us kind of a recap of Fight Club here at
the Virginia Mason.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But he did not like the vertigo. He's not feeling good.
He does not feel yoad.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
He's not He'll he'll be back to the butthole calling
next Wednesday, So tune in for that. Greg Bell coming up.
Adam Durday Seahawks d C will join us as well.
Petro's coming up.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We got a lot to get to. We can't be
messing around. This is a busy Wednesday right here on
ninety three three kJ A RFM
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest sonics collection in the world,
check out simply Seattle dot com now with Mike Florio.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Here's SOFTI and Dick all right.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
By the way, all the new Husky Big ten gear
has officially launched at simply Seattle dot com. Use coke
Kjar fifteen and check it out at simply Seattle dot com.
Here he is the King of all NFL media baby,
the nd disputed heavyweight Champ of the NFL Press Corps.
Our friend from ProFootball Talk dot com, the NFL on NBC,
(00:44):
Michael Florio, Mike Howiopel.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Good and now you can add vertigo patient.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh no, I got a buddy of mine that got that.
He said it was brutal. How are you getting through it?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Man?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I woke up in the middle of the night Monday
going into Tuesday, thinking I was dying. The entire world
was spinning vertically back and forth. I had no idea
what was happening. It went away after about ten seconds
of LA ten days, went to the er, was there
for nine hours. That was horrible. Couldn't walk, couldn't get
out of the bed. Eventually it started to get better.
(01:19):
Shuffled home, slept a lot, went and had And it's
a very low tech procedure called an Eppley maneuver. They
try to get these little crystals that are in your
inner ear that's fall out. They try to get him
to go back in so they think they made it happen.
But man, it is something and unless you have experienced that,
you have no idea what is. I had that in
(01:41):
the kidney stone. Kidney stone is one A and vertigo
is one B.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's brutal.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
That happened to my dad, and that's exactly what he said.
He called the er he thought he was dying, and
we called the ear at two o'clock in the morning,
exact same that, And it's very very scary. Well, Mike,
we're here at Seahawks practice and we just talked about
the import and how much positivity you can take from fights,
because there were multiple fights in practice today.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
We've seen it. We've seen teams get fined because of fights.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
How do you judge whether a fight is positive or
negative for a football team?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Fight shows a lack of discipline but a presence of passion.
And it's a fine line. You don't want fights, but
you do want fights. You don't want someone to get
injured during a fight. But the spirit that is reflected
and the willingness to fight is something that you can't engineer.
(02:36):
It needs to happen organically. It's a very fine line.
If it's happening too often, you've got a problem. You
want it to happen from time to time, but you
don't want anyone to get hurt. And I think it's
encouraging that the league is finally disciplining teams when these
things happened. The league's prior attitude was we exercise no
jurisdiction over these joint practices, which I think is asinine.
(02:58):
It'll be interesting to see if they start finding teams
who have fights within their own building. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, look, this is a football team that at times
last year got pushed around, got pushed around by Mike
McDonald's Ravens, for god sakes, in Baltimore. Last season, so
I'm with you. I think there's a positive for sure
that can be gleaned from all this. But speaking of positives,
at least for Seahawk fans, the Brandon ayuk ara in
San Francisco appears to be officially over. Christian McCaffrey was
on TV I think yesterday and referred to him as
(03:25):
a former.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Teammate before a deal is even done.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So can we officially now close the book you think
on ayuk and the Niners and where's he going?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I'm not sure it can be officially closed. There's still
a chance the forty nine ers at some point wake
up and say, if multiple teams are willing to pay
this guy what we're not willing to pay him and
give us something for him, maybe we should just pay
him what he wants because we don't have to give
anybody anything to keep him. So Kyle Shanahan didn't rule
out the possibility yesterday of a scenario where they get
(03:57):
a deal done. I think Mike Silver San Francisco Chronicle
hits the nail on the head with the idea that
Shanahan is exasperated.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
With the hold.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
D you think about the way the forty nine ers
have been wired the past seven years. They have a
bunch of badasses who roll out of bed and run
through a wall. And when you have a guy there
who's not taking part in that process, it undermines the
spirit you're trying to instill in the team. So I
think he's gonna win this. And the other problem is
he wants to go to the Steelers, I believe, and
(04:26):
the Steelers are offering him the least of any of
the teams that are in play, and the forty nine
Ers the least. So both the team and the player
have to kind of get to the point where they say, well,
it's going to be Pittsburgh and it's kind of like
a war of attrition where other teams are slipping out
of this and the Steelers are going to be the
only one left. It may come down to the Steelers
(04:47):
or the forty nine Ers and Ayuk find a way
to men's fences and live together.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
What type of compensation are we looking for if he
does get traded? What do you think San Francisco would get.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I think it's got to be a player and a pick.
You need something to justify the moves that will help
you win now, and without that I don't know why
you do the deal unless you're just so fed up
with him being around you're willing to make the team
worse now in the name of making it better next year.
(05:20):
Because if you were gonna trade him, you trade him
before the twenty twenty four draft, and you get help
for this season. They are consciously taking a step back
without him and getting nothing for him until next year.
So it comes down to who's got the player that
they want that they think is gonna make them better,
(05:40):
and then probably a next year's draft pick on top
of it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well, Mike Florial with us again courtesy of our friends
is simply Seattle dot Com. And I guess there's no
better way to judge who's a backup and who's the
starter than watching one guy sit out for a preseason game.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
When one guy plays, Russell.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Wilson's gonna miss the Steeler Texan game, Justin Field's gonna start.
As is there really any kind of legit chance in
your mind, Mike, that Justin Fields actually wins that starting
job and keeps it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I think it could happen, But look, they put Wilson
in what they called pole position throughout the offseason and
They're one of the few teams that when they put
out their depth chart in the preseason, it's not meaningless.
Now even when they stay it's meaningless. I still think
it has some meaning, but they don't even apply the
caveat of unofficial to it. And Wilson's number one in
fields is number two. The door's open for Fields to
(06:27):
take the job. And for Wilson, he needs to be
able to play. He needs to be able to get
acclimated in this offense. And there's a whole lot riding
on this for him. You know, there's a set of
facts where he ends up being the backup. He doesn't
play much, if at all, this year, and then next
year there's just no one that's willing to hand him
a starting job, and he's just done. I mean, if
he doesn't humble himself to go somewhere and be a
(06:49):
backup or a placeholder for a rookie who's draft or
whatever the case may be, he may just be done
after this year. I'm not saying that it's definite. I
just think once he no longer is clearcut starter, he
may not be willing to hold a clipboard. Most franchise
quarterbacks would not say I'll take whatever I can get
(07:10):
and just be a backup. Joe Flacco is one of
the rare guys who at one point was the highest
paid player in the NFL. Who's willing to take whatever
you can get just to stay in the NFL. I
don't know that Russell Wilson would do that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Mike.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I heard you the other day call the ruling in
the NFL Sunday ticket court case a crock of crap,
although you didn't use the word crap. So I can't
say it on the air, but he can say it
on text. It to me it was online, so he
can say it on the on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
So one of my favorite text emojis, I have two
text emojis, I send you one middle finger.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And one of the why is it a crock of.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Well? The judge ultimately threw the case out. Let's try
to make this as simple as I can. The judge
threw the case out because he determined that the expert
witnesses that the plane IFFs used to prove their damage
is case how much they lost by this end trust violation,
that is, the Sunday ticket package weren't reliable. He knew
ahead of time who they were. He knew ahead of
(08:06):
time what they were going to say. He allowed them
to testify. He's the gatekeeper for expert testimony. Every judge
that's presiding over any civil case. When expert witnesses are
used to provide specialized knowledge that helps prove a case,
whether it's liability or damages, you have to serve as
the gatekeeper. So he decided they were good enough, He
let them testify. The jury clearly decided they were good
(08:28):
enough and issued a verdict of four point seven billion
dollars that would have been tripled if the verdict had
become an official judgment. And then after the fact, the
judge says, and they weren't good enough, you lose because
without this expert testimony, you have no proof of damages
to the entire class. You lose case over the plantiffs
send the planets include everyone nationwide who was a consumer
(08:51):
who bought Sunday ticket. Now there are some exceptions, like
if they gave it two years part of the DirecTV package,
you're not in it. But for there's more than two
point four million or in this lawsuitude, who's lawyers proved
the Sunday ticket as it's currently constituted as an anti
trust violation, but they get nothing for it. That's why
it's a croc of chocolate, frozen yogurt emoji yah.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah or emoji on my phone sent by Mike Florio's
multiple times in the last five years.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
The Browns want a dome. Is that right? Are they
going to get it?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I don't know. I don't know. Look, all these owners
want things, and most communities give them, and Cleveland found
out the hard way what happens if you don't give
the owners what they want. And people want domes because
you want to have year round events. You want to
have NCAA Final four, you want to have concerts in
January and February. You want to have things rain or shine.
(09:46):
You don't want whether to ever be a factor in anything.
And you know that's what they're pushing for, and we'll
see if they can pull it off. But there's something
to be said about open air football AFC North. All
four teams play in the elements. It gives you an
advantage and it also creates a disadvantage. When you become
a dome team, you can win in that dome, but
when it's time to go play in the elements. You're
(10:07):
not as ready as you used to be.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
What are the chances of Vikings Wide receiver Jordan Addison
missus games. He has found asleep at the wheel, blocking
traffic on a freeway and charged with DUI.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, under the NFL substance Use policy, once the case
is over, it's a three game suspension. So the question
is how long does the case hang around? And once
he's responsible one who knows, you know, but he's got
the right to defend himself. And I don't know what
the defense would be. You know, I wasn't driving isn't
(10:42):
a defense, as anyone who watches Everybody Loves Raymond learned
the time Dever was asleep behind the wheel of a
car even though she wasn't driving because she had too
much to drink. So I wasn't driving won't cut it.
Three games is the minimum, it's the baseline. It can
go up depending upon how high BAC was, it could
go up. Point eight is the legal limit. If it's
(11:03):
higher than point one five, it can be more than
three games. So he's looking at least a three game
suspension eventually, unless he finds a way to knock this
thing out one hundred percent and be exonerated.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Hey, Mike, real quick before you go. I should have
asked you this as a follow up earlier. But giving
your law background, this decision to overturn the Sunday ticket case,
can the plaintiffs appeal that decision or is this thing final?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
No, It'll be appealed, and because of the money that's
at stake, whoever wins on appeal will push it to
the next level. This goes to the US Supreme Court
eventually and inevitably, and it's a crapshoot on appeal. There's
like twenty nine regular judges on the Ninth Circuit and
twenty three senior status judges. That's the circuit that I
think includes Washington State as well. They'll be three randomly
(11:47):
assigned to this appeal. And who those three are, what
their background is, which president appointed them. Those are all
factors in trying to figure out which way the win's blowing,
and you typically don't find out. When I was practicing law,
I had a couple of appeals in the Fourth Circuit,
which is our equivalent here in Virginia and West Virginia
of the Ninth Circuit. I found out when I showed
(12:07):
up for the oral argument. Who the judges were, but
who the judges are is going to go a long
way toward deciding whether or not this stands and whether
or not this gets overturned.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I love it, all right, man, great stuff. Get better, buddy,
and we're talking a weekle.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Thank you man, Thanks guys.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
All right, man, Mike Florial with us on the air.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Greg Bell is gonna pop over and say hello, give
us kind of a recap of Fight Club here at
the Virginia Mason.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But he did not like the vertigo. He's not feeling good.
He does not feel yoad.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
He's not He'll he'll be back to the butthole calling
next Wednesday, So tune in for that. Greg Bell coming up.
Adam Durday Seahawks d C will join us as well.
Petro's coming up.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We got a lot to get to. We can't be
messing around. This is a busy Wednesday right here on
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