July 31, 2024 • 17 mins
Petros Papadakis of Fox Sports in Los Angeles joins Dave Softy Mahler to talk about the Washington Huskies offensive line concerns, Todd Graham finding work at TCU with Sonny Dykes, Will Rogers at quarterback for the Dawgs, and the ‘24 Olympics in Paris.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
Petros Papa Dakas.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Not that I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Brought to you by Sweet James Accident Attorneys.
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Forty one yards.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
If you're hurt in an accident, called Sweet James right
away at eight hundred and five hundred and fifty two hundred.
Sweet James will be sweet to you, but tough on
insurance companies that will bully you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Now with Petros, here's Dave's softy Muller.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I boys and girls back here at the Virginia Mason
Athletics Center for Seahawks training camp.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
No Gino Smith today he's nursing an injury. We'll see
if he's okay tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh no, oh no oh no.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
But it's always fun, good, always a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
To talk to one of the premier communicators of our time,
founding fathers of sports talk radio and one damn fine
Southern cal and one damn fine Greek American. Incredible father,
brother son, husband, our friend. Petros Papadoccus brought to you bye.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Before we get to sweet well, Sweet James Bergner, the
dense Beard of Justice eight hundred and nine million, the
dense beard of justice. No one comes through like Sweet James,
your personal injury attorney voted number one. He's a mass
more than a billion dollars for thousands of clients over
the years. Give him a call. They're there twenty four
to seven to help you. Can you stop calling me
a founding father of great sports talk? I like put
(01:29):
it into an answer, just joking around with you the
other day, and some national sports media thing picked up
and tried to make me look like an idiot. I
was kidding.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
It's like Jeopardy, show me founding fathers of sports talk. Yeah,
show me Pejos Papulucas ning everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Anyway, how's it going? Hello, I'm here. Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I mean, I don't know why you'd be embarrassed by that.
You are one of the founding fathers of sports talk
radio in this.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, I'm only forty seven years old. I can't pioneer. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Now, he came out the embryo yacking about USC football.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Man, I get it. You know you started young, all right,
compliment what's going on? I hear people talking in the background,
the Blue angel folks walking by. You know, I flew
in a Blue Angel one time, and I barfed all
over the cockpit. By the way, never again, you ever
fly in a F eighteen Petros.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, I would never. You would never do it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
No, I can barely do the United Airlines. You saw
what happened to Terrell Davis. I did see what happened
to Terrell Davis. Some guy just touched him. It was
like anger management in real life. Yeah, so anyway, I
just I know I would not fly with the Blue Angels.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I would not do that. Yeah, I did it one time.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I had ed McMuffin before I went up in the air,
which was a bad idea, and I threw up all
over the cockpit. They gave you a little plastic bag
in case you vomit, and I missed the bag and
the whole thing just hit the window of the cockpit.
So I would never do it again. Have you ever
done anything like that before?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Though?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Like no, bungee jumping, snat walk, Never would No.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I had to do a zipline, yes, And this was
you know you think of like they said, we're going
to go ziplining, and I was like, okay, whatever. I
didn't think much about it. We were in Sundance not
the film Festival. Oh okay, yeah, the actual place. I
would never go to the film festival, first of all,
(03:22):
and second of all because I'm not a star effort.
And second of all, the film Festival is held fifty
minutes drive from the actual place that Robert Redford owns
that used to house the film Festival when it was
much smaller, way back in the seventies and maybe early eighties.
(03:43):
And that's a place called Sundance, Utah.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
But anyway, I was there in Wyoming, Is that correct
or No, it's in Utah.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You talk, you got you got, you got you.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And I was there and they said we're going to
go ziplining, and I thought like, okay, you go through
some trees, you know whatever, you know what I'm saying.
And I did not realize it was literally like jumping
off a cliff, like really taking your life into your hands.
Like the trees look like little broccolies. And I had
(04:12):
like a full on panic attack, you know, and I'm
all geared up with like the puzzo piece thing on.
You know, it's all like you're a superhero. It's like
it's all strapped up under you, like you're in a
bondage porn, and you're going up the thing. You go
up the ski lift, you know, to get to these
different zipline locations, and it's like the only way down
(04:35):
is the zipline. I mean, if you go down in
disgrace with your puzzo all strapped up, you look like
an idiot, you know. And I already looked like an idiot,
because like the people I was with were like, well,
I'm so sorry we did this to you. Had no
idea that you would be.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I'm just imagining you hanging on for dear life.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh I'll send you It was. All I did was
stare up at the reeling wheel, like waiting for it
to break and for me to fall to my By
the way, there is a sundance in Wyoming as well
as Utah. I was half right, okay, but that's not
where I was.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
No, I get it, I get it. Hey, did you uh? Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Washington and Jetfish had a big media day thing. They
had the big ten media day last week. Then they
came back into another media day with all the coordinators
a bunch of players. Used to be a rule that
you couldn't talk to freshmen. They blew that out of
the water by bringing Demon Williams out there. So I
thought that was fun. But Jetfish comes out the laughs. Yeah,
he says, we'll Camp's not gonna be easy. We're gonna
(05:31):
have three hours of practice, three hours of meetings hour
and meet another two hours of this. We're gonna go
all day long, wake up at five am, being bed
by two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
He's gonna run these guys ragging, remembering Rudy.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
My job is to find out which one he wants
to quit and go home to Mama. That's what Jetfish
is about to do to this Huskie football team.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, such a tough guy.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
That's right, that's right, Like boot camp.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Call another pass play, mister tough?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Uh, what does that come from?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But who ever done well?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
My thing is this softy And it's just an honest question,
you know, Like you can't go up there and sit
there and say this is what we've done at Washington.
We've beat Oregon the last three times, we played twice
in the playoff, no one else in the West Coast
six and the Heisman and all that, and then you say,
no one has more turnover than us. We're a whole
(06:21):
different team and a whole different staff. It's like, well,
you know, you can't sit there and stand on top
of the mountain holding up the flag like the gotcha fish.
When all of that is gone. I mean, all of
that has essentially been sucked into a vacuum. And it's
a brand new Washington football. Which is not to say
Jed Thefish did not take over a really downtrodden Arizona
(06:47):
program and turn it into something special. Washington has been
in a good place at least support wise and the
way people feel about the program. But everybody there, including
the AD, is new.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So, I mean Washington is a lot like what is
a microcosm is what's happening all over college football with everybody.
No one knows what this year is going to be like.
No one knows how awkward it's going to be. No
one knows if it's going to be strange. No one
knows if the ratings are going to go way down
because of the lack of familiarity. No one knows anything,
(07:22):
especially those of us with West Coast teams that are
all dispersed like the Tower of Babble. So anybody, any
any person that acts like they know what it's going
to be like to see Washington, Rutgers or whatever is there.
They're lying to you, They're just feigning expertise because that's
what we're paid to do. It is the weirdest dip
your toe into the pool college football season of all time.
(07:46):
And then it's that times one hundred at Washington because
literally every single person is brand new.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, but I'm but I do think it is it
is appropriate to be concerned about the offensive line, though
I'm with you in that nobody knows how good or
bad these guys will be. For the most part of me,
I know nothing about Maximus McCree, who was a junior
college player and maybe your left tackle. I know nothing
about this transfer kid from Ohio State. I know nothing
(08:14):
about this Tatali kid who came from Portland State or
as a party from San Diego. All I see is
what I see on YouTube, which is all good stuff,
by the way. But two things you want on your
offensive line, right, You want some chemistry and you want
some experience, and they have none of that on the
offensive line. So is it fair to be at least
semi concerned about the group up front?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah? I mean I would be totally concerned about the
group up front. And also, who's the offensive line coach?
His name is Brennan Carroll, right, son of Pete. Does
he have a pedigree of building offensive lines?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, I think they did pretty good at Arizona, right,
And they did okay, not bad, And I would take okay,
I would take okay.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I mean to me, when I think of an ass
kicking offensive line coach, it's gonna shape a new era
of offensive line at Washington comparable with what you guys
were doing, which was nationally great level.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't think I don't think of Brennan Carroll. I'm sorry.
That's not to say he can't do the job. Look,
I just think Washington football is going to be dramatically different,
and probably not in a good way next year.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I don't think you like anybody with the last name Carroll,
whether Brennan, Nate, Pete probably got a problem, Greta. I
just think you're just completely scarred by this.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I love Carrol Channing though yeah it's not yeah, not
in the same family. I love Randall Carroll. Okay, I
don't hate the Carrolls. I got nothing against anybody who
played Archie Bunker Carol O'Connor. Yeah, I don't hate anybody.
(09:48):
I just don't think you know. I mean, you were
on a wild ride last year, Softy, and that's you're
going to Camp Snoopy.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Now, what the hell Camp Snoopy?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I mean, even if Jed Fish is going to be
a good coach at Washington and gonna make it, uh
make it his own, it's gonna take longer than just
this year. Oh God, put the thing together and build
it up. And yeah, you're might he might kill.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Your might be here for a year and then take
everybody he brought with him to Florida.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Or that's also quite possible. If he has any modicum
of success, I'd be worried about that. Uh you see, Sonny,
because that fish can swim in a lot of oceans.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Oh, well, Snoopy camp is it? What'd you say, Camp
Snoopy Camps?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, that's a not story farm out here.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
How about your boy Todd Graham, Your boy Todd Graham's
back in college football? What's your story about what Todd
Graham used to do with In the morning, he'd wake
up and he told us that he told.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, what do you sell in a football meeting? He
told us. Todd Graham told us that every day he
woke up and looked in the mirror and cut his
hair with a flow bee and said, you're the best
football coach in America.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Because if I don't believe it, who will, stupid idiot.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well now he's working as an analyst for Sonny Dykes
at TCU.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well yeah, and Sonny's kind of like the last bastion
and Lincoln. But Lincoln lost his mojo with all his
defensive guys and Alex Grinch and all that stuff. Sonny's
one of the last bastions where these air raid guys
feel comfortable O'Brien at Texas Tech maybe a little bit,
(11:37):
but a lot of these guys. Eric Morris is now
at North Texas. He's one of those Texas Techa was
a play caller for Pat Mahomes. These guys, they're not
as you would agree with me, with the air raid
and the air raid style and the air raid offense
and the proliferation of the whole thing. Mike Leech, how
mummy all that those places are not as multiple as
(12:00):
they used to be, Right Like where all these guys Graham,
Harrell and all that came up together are working together
that Holderson is one of those guys. Uh, definitely. Todd
Graham a Texas coach and knows all of those guys,
and Sonny Dike's is one of those guys. And TCU
is one of the last bastions of the air raid
(12:21):
and the air raid guys Mike Leach's tree.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So we set an air raid guy in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
His name is Will Rogers, who played for Mike Leach
in Mississippi State.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Right, But he's a player, so he runs your offense
great numbers. Yeah, absolutely. I did a couple of his game.
I did a game one game of his yeah, yeah,
against Arizona.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Now, what do you make of them?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I liked him. I thought he had balls. I thought
he played hard and he did what Mike Leach quarterbacks do.
He got hit, he got up, A tough guy, tough guy.
I thought he was tough. Yeah, hell yeah. I thought
he was good. Yeah. I was impressed with him. I
thought he was a good quarterback. And ultimately in that game,
Mississippi State just physically kind of took over and beat
(13:06):
a Jedfish team. But I you know, I'm talking more
about the coaches, and you know, and then so it
doesn't surprise me. I guess for a long answer, it
doesn't surprise me that TCU would take in some of
those stragglers and help them because to be an analyst,
like Cliff Kingsbury was at sc for a brief period
(13:27):
of time and all that, to be an analyst keeps
these guys in a tax shelter. So they still get
their full amount of money from the place that fired them.
But they're like, you know, Holgersoon's gonna have a huge
payout from Houston, but they they get to be inserted
in the coaching world and as an analyst doing something
(13:50):
relevant but doesn't affect them tax wise. So it's something
all of these guys do.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, Will Rogers in that game, thirteen to seventeen a
bucks sixty two to three touchdowns, so not all yards
but very efficient. I think they must have run. They
ran for one hundred and forty five. Yeah, they controlled
the game, and I I was, I was impressed with
Them've been watching the Olympics at all? Your Greeks have
a metal got a bronze?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Oh we did?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, I'm sweet and what I have no idea, but.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I watched it. I mean it was in cork, sucking
a lot of soaking a cork. Do you know Greek
corks are not great?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Greek corks are not great.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
No, it's difficult to open a Greek wine really, now
why is that? Because they just don't have very good
cork trees and Greece so the wine cork is you know,
it's not a great cork. You know, you really you
got to know how to open a bottle of wine
and know that you're opening a Greek wine.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
What is the great the best cork come from?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I don't know, you think not Greece.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Jackson looked at up what country has the best cork?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, I don't know, but uh, I don't know what
the Greek medal was in either. And I've been to
France before, in Paris, so I'm not surprised that people
are all freaked out that the opening ceremony was like
the Madonna Justify My Love video with the beards and
the pointy boobs and then all the balls.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Hanging out and all that we got.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, yeah, I mean, I canna understand, you know, I
mean it was kind of supposed to be about sports.
But either way, if you've ever been to France, I
mean it's pretty filthy, and that's kind of how that's
kind of how they roll, so none of and then
the whole games is like, you know, it's about peeing
in the pool. There was a big Wall Street Journal article,
and then there's a French guy walking around with a
huge boner the diving, and then there's the Filipino guy
(15:38):
that fell on his back just then like down a zero,
like ah, you know, and then uh, you know, then
there's the whole poop river, you know, storyline of the sin,
you know, like whatever happened to Janet Evans and Carl Lewis.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
You know, Oh god, you're so right about it being dirty.
I mean I've been there. I was just there for
like a day. We took the train in from London.
And Gina doesn't she's not going back.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It is what it.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I mean, it's it's Paris, you know. I mean, yeah,
it's all of those things. But I'm not surprised that
there's some weird French backlash and and then just overall
French laziness that is coming through, like playing the wrong
Sudan national anthem for the South Sudan and infuriating their
players accidentally announcing uh, north South Korea as North Korea.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
That's a deep apology from the Olympic committee there. Uh,
you know, just uh, I wonder what's next. You know,
that's I guess that's my Olympic And then you know
it's like, can I avoid being nailed by Lebron James
being nailed by the king? Does that have to be
an Olympic thing? You know, I liked it better when
Danny Manning was the best player on the men's Olympic team,
(16:53):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Anyway, The top cork producing country is Portugal Spain. Second
remainder grows in a variety of coastal Mediterranean countries, including Algeria, France, Morocco,
Italy and Tunisia tunis you're looking for a good cork,
those are the countries you're gonna go to.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, Greece not so much so. The Greek wine is
corked quite poorly, but really not supposed to be like
a wine you keep forever and ever. They're mostly like
table wines, right, so it's not something you know you'd
want to leave shelved for a matter of years.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
All right, man, Well, well, what's it the big giant side.
Nuts hot out here, man, I'm sitting outside.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
It's warm. What do you want from me?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Go yell at the blue angels.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, man, we'll talk in a week. See you.
Petros Papadaka is with us on the show Larry.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Stone in pal Somemore.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Hopefully the game is over by five. We'll talk to
Larry then on ninety three to three KJRFM
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
Petros Papa Dakas.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Not that I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Brought to you by Sweet James Accident Attorneys.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Forty one yards.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
If you're hurt in an accident, called Sweet James right
away at eight hundred and five hundred and fifty two hundred.
Sweet James will be sweet to you, but tough on
insurance companies that will bully you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Now with Petros, here's Dave's softy Muller.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I boys and girls back here at the Virginia Mason
Athletics Center for Seahawks training camp.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
No Gino Smith today he's nursing an injury. We'll see
if he's okay tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh no, oh no oh no.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
But it's always fun, good, always a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
To talk to one of the premier communicators of our time,
founding fathers of sports talk radio and one damn fine
Southern cal and one damn fine Greek American. Incredible father,
brother son, husband, our friend. Petros Papadoccus brought to you bye.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Before we get to sweet well, Sweet James Bergner, the
dense Beard of Justice eight hundred and nine million, the
dense beard of justice. No one comes through like Sweet James,
your personal injury attorney voted number one. He's a mass
more than a billion dollars for thousands of clients over
the years. Give him a call. They're there twenty four
to seven to help you. Can you stop calling me
a founding father of great sports talk? I like put
(01:29):
it into an answer, just joking around with you the
other day, and some national sports media thing picked up
and tried to make me look like an idiot. I
was kidding.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
It's like Jeopardy, show me founding fathers of sports talk. Yeah,
show me Pejos Papulucas ning everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Anyway, how's it going? Hello, I'm here. Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I mean, I don't know why you'd be embarrassed by that.
You are one of the founding fathers of sports talk
radio in this.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, I'm only forty seven years old. I can't pioneer. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Now, he came out the embryo yacking about USC football.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Man, I get it. You know you started young, all right,
compliment what's going on? I hear people talking in the background,
the Blue angel folks walking by. You know, I flew
in a Blue Angel one time, and I barfed all
over the cockpit. By the way, never again, you ever
fly in a F eighteen Petros.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, I would never. You would never do it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
No, I can barely do the United Airlines. You saw
what happened to Terrell Davis. I did see what happened
to Terrell Davis. Some guy just touched him. It was
like anger management in real life. Yeah, so anyway, I
just I know I would not fly with the Blue Angels.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I would not do that. Yeah, I did it one time.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I had ed McMuffin before I went up in the air,
which was a bad idea, and I threw up all
over the cockpit. They gave you a little plastic bag
in case you vomit, and I missed the bag and
the whole thing just hit the window of the cockpit.
So I would never do it again. Have you ever
done anything like that before?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Though?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Like no, bungee jumping, snat walk, Never would No.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I had to do a zipline, yes, And this was
you know you think of like they said, we're going
to go ziplining, and I was like, okay, whatever. I
didn't think much about it. We were in Sundance not
the film Festival. Oh okay, yeah, the actual place. I
would never go to the film festival, first of all,
(03:22):
and second of all because I'm not a star effort.
And second of all, the film Festival is held fifty
minutes drive from the actual place that Robert Redford owns
that used to house the film Festival when it was
much smaller, way back in the seventies and maybe early eighties.
(03:43):
And that's a place called Sundance, Utah.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
But anyway, I was there in Wyoming, Is that correct
or No, it's in Utah.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You talk, you got you got, you got you.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And I was there and they said we're going to
go ziplining, and I thought like, okay, you go through
some trees, you know whatever, you know what I'm saying.
And I did not realize it was literally like jumping
off a cliff, like really taking your life into your hands.
Like the trees look like little broccolies. And I had
(04:12):
like a full on panic attack, you know, and I'm
all geared up with like the puzzo piece thing on.
You know, it's all like you're a superhero. It's like
it's all strapped up under you, like you're in a
bondage porn, and you're going up the thing. You go
up the ski lift, you know, to get to these
different zipline locations, and it's like the only way down
(04:35):
is the zipline. I mean, if you go down in
disgrace with your puzzo all strapped up, you look like
an idiot, you know. And I already looked like an idiot,
because like the people I was with were like, well,
I'm so sorry we did this to you. Had no
idea that you would be.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I'm just imagining you hanging on for dear life.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh I'll send you It was. All I did was
stare up at the reeling wheel, like waiting for it
to break and for me to fall to my By
the way, there is a sundance in Wyoming as well
as Utah. I was half right, okay, but that's not
where I was.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
No, I get it, I get it. Hey, did you uh? Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Washington and Jetfish had a big media day thing. They
had the big ten media day last week. Then they
came back into another media day with all the coordinators
a bunch of players. Used to be a rule that
you couldn't talk to freshmen. They blew that out of
the water by bringing Demon Williams out there. So I
thought that was fun. But Jetfish comes out the laughs. Yeah,
he says, we'll Camp's not gonna be easy. We're gonna
(05:31):
have three hours of practice, three hours of meetings hour
and meet another two hours of this. We're gonna go
all day long, wake up at five am, being bed
by two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
He's gonna run these guys ragging, remembering Rudy.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
My job is to find out which one he wants
to quit and go home to Mama. That's what Jetfish
is about to do to this Huskie football team.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, such a tough guy.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
That's right, that's right, Like boot camp.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Call another pass play, mister tough?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Uh, what does that come from?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But who ever done well?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
My thing is this softy And it's just an honest question,
you know, Like you can't go up there and sit
there and say this is what we've done at Washington.
We've beat Oregon the last three times, we played twice
in the playoff, no one else in the West Coast
six and the Heisman and all that, and then you say,
no one has more turnover than us. We're a whole
(06:21):
different team and a whole different staff. It's like, well,
you know, you can't sit there and stand on top
of the mountain holding up the flag like the gotcha fish.
When all of that is gone. I mean, all of
that has essentially been sucked into a vacuum. And it's
a brand new Washington football. Which is not to say
Jed Thefish did not take over a really downtrodden Arizona
(06:47):
program and turn it into something special. Washington has been
in a good place at least support wise and the
way people feel about the program. But everybody there, including
the AD, is new.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So, I mean Washington is a lot like what is
a microcosm is what's happening all over college football with everybody.
No one knows what this year is going to be like.
No one knows how awkward it's going to be. No
one knows if it's going to be strange. No one
knows if the ratings are going to go way down
because of the lack of familiarity. No one knows anything,
(07:22):
especially those of us with West Coast teams that are
all dispersed like the Tower of Babble. So anybody, any
any person that acts like they know what it's going
to be like to see Washington, Rutgers or whatever is there.
They're lying to you, They're just feigning expertise because that's
what we're paid to do. It is the weirdest dip
your toe into the pool college football season of all time.
(07:46):
And then it's that times one hundred at Washington because
literally every single person is brand new.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, but I'm but I do think it is it
is appropriate to be concerned about the offensive line, though
I'm with you in that nobody knows how good or
bad these guys will be. For the most part of me,
I know nothing about Maximus McCree, who was a junior
college player and maybe your left tackle. I know nothing
about this transfer kid from Ohio State. I know nothing
(08:14):
about this Tatali kid who came from Portland State or
as a party from San Diego. All I see is
what I see on YouTube, which is all good stuff,
by the way. But two things you want on your
offensive line, right, You want some chemistry and you want
some experience, and they have none of that on the
offensive line. So is it fair to be at least
semi concerned about the group up front?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah? I mean I would be totally concerned about the
group up front. And also, who's the offensive line coach?
His name is Brennan Carroll, right, son of Pete. Does
he have a pedigree of building offensive lines?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, I think they did pretty good at Arizona, right,
And they did okay, not bad, And I would take okay,
I would take okay.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I mean to me, when I think of an ass
kicking offensive line coach, it's gonna shape a new era
of offensive line at Washington comparable with what you guys
were doing, which was nationally great level.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't think I don't think of Brennan Carroll. I'm sorry.
That's not to say he can't do the job. Look,
I just think Washington football is going to be dramatically different,
and probably not in a good way next year.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I don't think you like anybody with the last name Carroll,
whether Brennan, Nate, Pete probably got a problem, Greta. I
just think you're just completely scarred by this.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I love Carrol Channing though yeah it's not yeah, not
in the same family. I love Randall Carroll. Okay, I
don't hate the Carrolls. I got nothing against anybody who
played Archie Bunker Carol O'Connor. Yeah, I don't hate anybody.
(09:48):
I just don't think you know. I mean, you were
on a wild ride last year, Softy, and that's you're
going to Camp Snoopy.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Now, what the hell Camp Snoopy?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I mean, even if Jed Fish is going to be
a good coach at Washington and gonna make it, uh
make it his own, it's gonna take longer than just
this year. Oh God, put the thing together and build
it up. And yeah, you're might he might kill.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Your might be here for a year and then take
everybody he brought with him to Florida.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Or that's also quite possible. If he has any modicum
of success, I'd be worried about that. Uh you see, Sonny,
because that fish can swim in a lot of oceans.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Oh, well, Snoopy camp is it? What'd you say, Camp
Snoopy Camps?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, that's a not story farm out here.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
How about your boy Todd Graham, Your boy Todd Graham's
back in college football? What's your story about what Todd
Graham used to do with In the morning, he'd wake
up and he told us that he told.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, what do you sell in a football meeting? He
told us. Todd Graham told us that every day he
woke up and looked in the mirror and cut his
hair with a flow bee and said, you're the best
football coach in America.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Because if I don't believe it, who will, stupid idiot.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well now he's working as an analyst for Sonny Dykes
at TCU.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well yeah, and Sonny's kind of like the last bastion
and Lincoln. But Lincoln lost his mojo with all his
defensive guys and Alex Grinch and all that stuff. Sonny's
one of the last bastions where these air raid guys
feel comfortable O'Brien at Texas Tech maybe a little bit,
(11:37):
but a lot of these guys. Eric Morris is now
at North Texas. He's one of those Texas Techa was
a play caller for Pat Mahomes. These guys, they're not
as you would agree with me, with the air raid
and the air raid style and the air raid offense
and the proliferation of the whole thing. Mike Leech, how
mummy all that those places are not as multiple as
(12:00):
they used to be, Right Like where all these guys Graham,
Harrell and all that came up together are working together
that Holderson is one of those guys. Uh, definitely. Todd
Graham a Texas coach and knows all of those guys,
and Sonny Dike's is one of those guys. And TCU
is one of the last bastions of the air raid
(12:21):
and the air raid guys Mike Leach's tree.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So we set an air raid guy in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
His name is Will Rogers, who played for Mike Leach
in Mississippi State.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Right, But he's a player, so he runs your offense
great numbers. Yeah, absolutely. I did a couple of his game.
I did a game one game of his yeah, yeah,
against Arizona.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Now, what do you make of them?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I liked him. I thought he had balls. I thought
he played hard and he did what Mike Leach quarterbacks do.
He got hit, he got up, A tough guy, tough guy.
I thought he was tough. Yeah, hell yeah. I thought
he was good. Yeah. I was impressed with him. I
thought he was a good quarterback. And ultimately in that game,
Mississippi State just physically kind of took over and beat
(13:06):
a Jedfish team. But I you know, I'm talking more
about the coaches, and you know, and then so it
doesn't surprise me. I guess for a long answer, it
doesn't surprise me that TCU would take in some of
those stragglers and help them because to be an analyst,
like Cliff Kingsbury was at sc for a brief period
(13:27):
of time and all that, to be an analyst keeps
these guys in a tax shelter. So they still get
their full amount of money from the place that fired them.
But they're like, you know, Holgersoon's gonna have a huge
payout from Houston, but they they get to be inserted
in the coaching world and as an analyst doing something
(13:50):
relevant but doesn't affect them tax wise. So it's something
all of these guys do.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, Will Rogers in that game, thirteen to seventeen a
bucks sixty two to three touchdowns, so not all yards
but very efficient. I think they must have run. They
ran for one hundred and forty five. Yeah, they controlled
the game, and I I was, I was impressed with
Them've been watching the Olympics at all? Your Greeks have
a metal got a bronze?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Oh we did?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, I'm sweet and what I have no idea, but.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I watched it. I mean it was in cork, sucking
a lot of soaking a cork. Do you know Greek
corks are not great?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Greek corks are not great.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
No, it's difficult to open a Greek wine really, now
why is that? Because they just don't have very good
cork trees and Greece so the wine cork is you know,
it's not a great cork. You know, you really you
got to know how to open a bottle of wine
and know that you're opening a Greek wine.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
What is the great the best cork come from?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I don't know, you think not Greece.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Jackson looked at up what country has the best cork?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, I don't know, but uh, I don't know what
the Greek medal was in either. And I've been to
France before, in Paris, so I'm not surprised that people
are all freaked out that the opening ceremony was like
the Madonna Justify My Love video with the beards and
the pointy boobs and then all the balls.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Hanging out and all that we got.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, yeah, I mean, I canna understand, you know, I
mean it was kind of supposed to be about sports.
But either way, if you've ever been to France, I
mean it's pretty filthy, and that's kind of how that's
kind of how they roll, so none of and then
the whole games is like, you know, it's about peeing
in the pool. There was a big Wall Street Journal article,
and then there's a French guy walking around with a
huge boner the diving, and then there's the Filipino guy
(15:38):
that fell on his back just then like down a zero,
like ah, you know, and then uh, you know, then
there's the whole poop river, you know, storyline of the sin,
you know, like whatever happened to Janet Evans and Carl Lewis.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
You know, Oh god, you're so right about it being dirty.
I mean I've been there. I was just there for
like a day. We took the train in from London.
And Gina doesn't she's not going back.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It is what it.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I mean, it's it's Paris, you know. I mean, yeah,
it's all of those things. But I'm not surprised that
there's some weird French backlash and and then just overall
French laziness that is coming through, like playing the wrong
Sudan national anthem for the South Sudan and infuriating their
players accidentally announcing uh, north South Korea as North Korea.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
That's a deep apology from the Olympic committee there. Uh,
you know, just uh, I wonder what's next. You know,
that's I guess that's my Olympic And then you know
it's like, can I avoid being nailed by Lebron James
being nailed by the king? Does that have to be
an Olympic thing? You know, I liked it better when
Danny Manning was the best player on the men's Olympic team,
(16:53):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Anyway, The top cork producing country is Portugal Spain. Second
remainder grows in a variety of coastal Mediterranean countries, including Algeria, France, Morocco,
Italy and Tunisia tunis you're looking for a good cork,
those are the countries you're gonna go to.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, Greece not so much so. The Greek wine is
corked quite poorly, but really not supposed to be like
a wine you keep forever and ever. They're mostly like
table wines, right, so it's not something you know you'd
want to leave shelved for a matter of years.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
All right, man, Well, well, what's it the big giant side.
Nuts hot out here, man, I'm sitting outside.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
It's warm. What do you want from me?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Go yell at the blue angels.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, man, we'll talk in a week. See you.
Petros Papadaka is with us on the show Larry.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Stone in pal Somemore.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Hopefully the game is over by five. We'll talk to
Larry then on ninety three to three KJRFM
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