November 26, 2024 • 10 mins
Dave Softy’s Mahler’s Cousin Evan, who is a Jets fan and lives in New Jersey, joins Dave and Dick Fain to talk about the dysfunction around the organization right now, continued quarterback issues, Woody Johnson being a bad owner, and Sunday’s game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There really is only one place we go for New
York Jet inside information. Forget the New York Times, forget
the New York Post, forget the Daily News, forget wfa N.
The one place we go is to a family room
in his Hillsborough, New Jersey. Maybe bypass it and go
(00:20):
right to the kitchen. Potentially could be in the bathroom.
My cousin Evan with us right now on the radio
show How are you Pal?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm doing great, softy Dick, thank you guys so much
for having me. You know, just once, you know, you
guys are like therapy for me. Just once. I want
to come on with something good. Yeah, happening in my
life and in the.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Jets life, because every time it's negative and it's driving
me crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, you had a baby in the last year, so
that's positive. But the problem with your football team is
they keep sucking. So there really is nothing to talk about.
I mean, what do you want for me?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's true?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, well maybe maybe if you put together a good
football team, we could talk about the Jets being good.
But what happened to this team? I mean I thought
they'd be good. I think, Dick, you thought the Jets
would be Yes, and they've turned into a complete freaking disaster.
What happened to the Jets?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You know, it's really funny.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I also thought they would win nine ten games, compete
for the division, make the playoffs. But the football gods
have other plans for the New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What happened? Aaron Rodgers is washed and it bums the
heck out of me. I went in with the highest
of expectations and like the Jets always do, like it
feels like New York Sports does, they crushed my heart.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well, let's start with the firing of Robert Sola, because
you know, I listened to Colin Coward and he's like,
wait a second, you fired the best coach you have
on your staff. At least that guy was a defensive mind.
And correct me if I'm wrong. The defense was actually
playing pretty well when Robert Sala was still the head coach,
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, the defense was playing significantly better than it is now.
The New York Jets went to London, and as you
guys may know, what he Johnson, the owner of the Jets,
was the ambassador to London for four years during the
first Trump presidency, and its anticipated that he is going
to be doing it again with this next Trump presidency.
So the Jets went to London, lost, got embarrassed, and
(02:19):
that very long flight home from London ended with Robert
Salad being firing and being fired. And even though he
was a problem with the New York Jets, he was
by no means the biggest problem, as evidenced by the
fact that they have been significantly worse both on the
defensive end and the offensive side of the ball since
(02:40):
Salad was fired. You know, Jeff Ulbrick is a really
a good defensive coordinator, came from San Francisco with a
hard hitting linebacker for you know, eight nine, ten years
in this league. But he's just not ready to be
a head coach. And with him being pulled apart, pulled
in many directions of the head coach would do, the
defense has gotten significantly worse.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, Cousin Evans with us on the radio show, and
I'm just looking at the Jet quarterbacks in like the
last fifteen years, and I don't understand, Well, yeah, because
we got to talk about it. I'm just kind of
at a loss of why it's been so damn hard
for this football team to find a quarterback. Now I
(03:21):
remember when Sam Darnold showed up and you were like
a pig and poop. You texted me, Man, David, I've
never seen a quarterback like this, z Eva. And then
he falls apart. So we got Aaron Rodgers, Zach Wilson,
Sam Donald, McCown, Fitzpatrick, Gino, Sanchis, Far the old man
Far Pennington. What the hell's going on out there?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Joe Namath sold his soule to the devil to get
Super Bowl three, and the Jets have been in literal
football health since since that faithful day of Joe Namath
walking off the field with his number one finger race
to the air. That was the only championship that the
Jets leversy in his lifetime. That's what he was signaling
as he was running off that field.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Wow, Wow, what's interesting in that list that softy just
rattled off. There's some quarterbacks that have done well elsewhere,
I mean, Fitzpatrick, Darnald, Gino BOMs. So what's so what's
going on? Like, why is it that that franchise it's
like the Bears, Like, why is it that that franchise
cannot grab a quarterback and have it stick.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm sure you guys know the expression being from Seattle,
the fish rots from the head. It all starts with ownership.
Woody Johnson in a in a list of horrendous ownership
in New York sports, from James Dolan with the Knicks,
the Will Ponds with the Mets. You know, Woody Johnson
if he's somehow worse than all of them, right, which
I wouldn't have thought that would have been possible if
(04:52):
you would have asked me, you know, five years ago
or so before James Dolan hired me on road. So
it's just it's when you have incompetent ownership that thinks
they know football and they don't. And you know, I
don't know if you guys read the reports from the athletics.
You know, the athletic I personally like them, even though
there's a lot of things that I'm like, Yeah, but
that Woody Johnson said that Rogers should be should be
(05:16):
benched after week three. He was making player personnel decisions,
telling the coaching staff of bench of safety. Why is
my owner telling telling the coaching staff of bench of safety. Yeah,
I just what's wrong with this picture?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, cousin Evans with us, there's a lot wrong with
the Jets. Man, what should I really be concerned about though,
on Sunday? I mean outside of having a fly three
thousand miles or I find whatever, the airfare, the area,
you know, the trip, all that stuff. We all get
that stuff. But what should the Seahawks really actually be
concerned about when it comes to this game on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
They should be concerned about the fans turning on the
team and stanting and chanting sell the team. They should
be concerned about Sauce Gardner missing tackle. They should be
concerned about Aaron Rodgers showing like he's forty one years
old now.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But in all.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Seriousness, if Aaron Rodgers can show even that he's an
even a semblance of a quarterback that he wants won,
if he's three percent instead of the five percent he's
been through a lot of these games, I think they're
gonna stand. You get It's gonna be a really tough
game for both I personally think the Seahawks are a
little better, but the Jets have significantly more talent, at
least in my opinion, on both sides of the ball.
But the Jets team overall is just so much worse
(06:29):
than Seattle Seattle's the team. The Jets are just players,
and it feels like none of them are playing for
each other, and you know, it's it's bad. You know,
the hardest part of the Seahawks honestly should be the
flight cross country.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Well, my simple question on whether or not the bet
the Hawks in this game is is there any fight
left in thee Oh it's like two and a half three?
I mean, is there anything? Because if there's no fight
left in the Jets, then the Hawks are gonna stop them.
But if the Jets, like you said, there's as much
I think there's as much talent on the Jets roster
(07:04):
as there is on the Seahawks roster. So if that
talent for one game more, there might be more, There
might be more. So yeah, so that's what worries me
as a Seahawk fan. I'm like, Okay, if for one
game that talent can get together and play well, then
the Hawks are in trouble. So that my question is
is their fight left in the football team?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I can't. Honestly, I hope there is. I hope for
my sake, I'll be there.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I feel like Softie and I have been to at
least combine every single Jets Seahawks game and every game
I go and thinking, you know, it's gonna be good
for the Jets, and every game they lose, and Softy
mocks me without mercy. But you ask, can the Jets
put together four quarters? I literally have not seen it
at any point at any game this season have they
(07:48):
put in four quarters? If the Seahawks put in four
quarters of real competitive football, I think they win. But
if the Jets can give it, can give you know,
us home fans two and a half quarters. They've always
been a second half team. If they can, you know,
give us ten points in the first half, I think
there's a good chance.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
By the way, I got a picture. I'm staring at
a picture right now. New Year's Day, twenty twenty three.
Cousin Evan despondent in the stands at Lumenfield as the
Seahawks took the Jets down. So, uh, don't test me
or I may end up tweeting this stuff out after
the game on Sunday. But guys, I gotta be honest
with you. This is not Evan's fault. I blame his
father for making him a Jet fan. I mean, your
(08:30):
dad had a choice. Your dad had a choice with
his life. He could have been a Giant fan. He
could have said that, hell were it. The Patriots are
one hundred miles away, let's just root for them. Instead,
he brought you down this cesspool with him. You want
to blame Anyboddy, blame Brian Lillienthal for the position that
you find yourself in.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I mean, if we're gonna be honest, it's not my father.
It's my my father's father, the season ticket holder for
the Jets at State Stadium. And I'm just as bad
as my father, my father's father, because, like Softy said,
I have a new baby girl eight months today, and
unfortunately for her, she can make any decision she wants
in life up to a certain point within reason, but
(09:12):
she cannot choose another football team. So I am passing
the deadly curse onto the next generation, just as my
father did to me.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Well, you know, we're Mariner fans, so we know exactly
what you're going through, and we know what it feels
like to have that passed on to our generation and
passing it on to the next general.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Actually we don't because the Jets. The Jets have at
least been to a super Bowl. We've never been to
a World Series. It's even worse.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I mean, I will say this, imagine being in New
York and being a Jets fan, a Mets fan, and
a Knicks fan over the last twenty five to thirty years,
which is my entire LIFETIMEE.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, that sounds like drugs, by the way, heavy heavy drugs.
Heavy drugs. All right, man, Hey go go get good luck.
Good luck to you. We love you, congratulations, God everything.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
We talk soon, all right, buddy, love you guys, Salty Dick,
thank you so much for having me on and have
a happy thanksgivin you too.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Man. Cousin Evan with us on the radio show. No
better way to go when you're looking for Jet insider
information than our friend my cousin cousin Evan in New York.
There really is only one place we go for New
York Jet inside information. Forget the New York Times, forget
the New York Post, forget the Daily News, forget wfa N.
The one place we go is to a family room
in his Hillsborough, New Jersey. Maybe bypass it and go
(00:20):
right to the kitchen. Potentially could be in the bathroom.
My cousin Evan with us right now on the radio
show How are you Pal?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm doing great, softy Dick, thank you guys so much
for having me. You know, just once, you know, you
guys are like therapy for me. Just once. I want
to come on with something good. Yeah, happening in my
life and in the.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Jets life, because every time it's negative and it's driving
me crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, you had a baby in the last year, so
that's positive. But the problem with your football team is
they keep sucking. So there really is nothing to talk about.
I mean, what do you want for me?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's true?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, well maybe maybe if you put together a good
football team, we could talk about the Jets being good.
But what happened to this team? I mean I thought
they'd be good. I think, Dick, you thought the Jets
would be Yes, and they've turned into a complete freaking disaster.
What happened to the Jets?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You know, it's really funny.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I also thought they would win nine ten games, compete
for the division, make the playoffs. But the football gods
have other plans for the New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What happened? Aaron Rodgers is washed and it bums the
heck out of me. I went in with the highest
of expectations and like the Jets always do, like it
feels like New York Sports does, they crushed my heart.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well, let's start with the firing of Robert Sola, because
you know, I listened to Colin Coward and he's like,
wait a second, you fired the best coach you have
on your staff. At least that guy was a defensive mind.
And correct me if I'm wrong. The defense was actually
playing pretty well when Robert Sala was still the head coach,
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, the defense was playing significantly better than it is now.
The New York Jets went to London, and as you
guys may know, what he Johnson, the owner of the Jets,
was the ambassador to London for four years during the
first Trump presidency, and its anticipated that he is going
to be doing it again with this next Trump presidency.
So the Jets went to London, lost, got embarrassed, and
(02:19):
that very long flight home from London ended with Robert
Salad being firing and being fired. And even though he
was a problem with the New York Jets, he was
by no means the biggest problem, as evidenced by the
fact that they have been significantly worse both on the
defensive end and the offensive side of the ball since
(02:40):
Salad was fired. You know, Jeff Ulbrick is a really
a good defensive coordinator, came from San Francisco with a
hard hitting linebacker for you know, eight nine, ten years
in this league. But he's just not ready to be
a head coach. And with him being pulled apart, pulled
in many directions of the head coach would do, the
defense has gotten significantly worse.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, Cousin Evans with us on the radio show, and
I'm just looking at the Jet quarterbacks in like the
last fifteen years, and I don't understand, Well, yeah, because
we got to talk about it. I'm just kind of
at a loss of why it's been so damn hard
for this football team to find a quarterback. Now I
(03:21):
remember when Sam Darnold showed up and you were like
a pig and poop. You texted me, Man, David, I've
never seen a quarterback like this, z Eva. And then
he falls apart. So we got Aaron Rodgers, Zach Wilson,
Sam Donald, McCown, Fitzpatrick, Gino, Sanchis, Far the old man
Far Pennington. What the hell's going on out there?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Joe Namath sold his soule to the devil to get
Super Bowl three, and the Jets have been in literal
football health since since that faithful day of Joe Namath
walking off the field with his number one finger race
to the air. That was the only championship that the
Jets leversy in his lifetime. That's what he was signaling
as he was running off that field.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Wow, Wow, what's interesting in that list that softy just
rattled off. There's some quarterbacks that have done well elsewhere,
I mean, Fitzpatrick, Darnald, Gino BOMs. So what's so what's
going on? Like, why is it that that franchise it's
like the Bears, Like, why is it that that franchise
cannot grab a quarterback and have it stick.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm sure you guys know the expression being from Seattle,
the fish rots from the head. It all starts with ownership.
Woody Johnson in a in a list of horrendous ownership
in New York sports, from James Dolan with the Knicks,
the Will Ponds with the Mets. You know, Woody Johnson
if he's somehow worse than all of them, right, which
I wouldn't have thought that would have been possible if
(04:52):
you would have asked me, you know, five years ago
or so before James Dolan hired me on road. So
it's just it's when you have incompetent ownership that thinks
they know football and they don't. And you know, I
don't know if you guys read the reports from the athletics.
You know, the athletic I personally like them, even though
there's a lot of things that I'm like, Yeah, but
that Woody Johnson said that Rogers should be should be
(05:16):
benched after week three. He was making player personnel decisions,
telling the coaching staff of bench of safety. Why is
my owner telling telling the coaching staff of bench of safety. Yeah,
I just what's wrong with this picture?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, cousin Evans with us, there's a lot wrong with
the Jets. Man, what should I really be concerned about though,
on Sunday? I mean outside of having a fly three
thousand miles or I find whatever, the airfare, the area,
you know, the trip, all that stuff. We all get
that stuff. But what should the Seahawks really actually be
concerned about when it comes to this game on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
They should be concerned about the fans turning on the
team and stanting and chanting sell the team. They should
be concerned about Sauce Gardner missing tackle. They should be
concerned about Aaron Rodgers showing like he's forty one years
old now.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But in all.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Seriousness, if Aaron Rodgers can show even that he's an
even a semblance of a quarterback that he wants won,
if he's three percent instead of the five percent he's
been through a lot of these games, I think they're
gonna stand. You get It's gonna be a really tough
game for both I personally think the Seahawks are a
little better, but the Jets have significantly more talent, at
least in my opinion, on both sides of the ball.
But the Jets team overall is just so much worse
(06:29):
than Seattle Seattle's the team. The Jets are just players,
and it feels like none of them are playing for
each other, and you know, it's it's bad. You know,
the hardest part of the Seahawks honestly should be the
flight cross country.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Well, my simple question on whether or not the bet
the Hawks in this game is is there any fight
left in thee Oh it's like two and a half three?
I mean, is there anything? Because if there's no fight
left in the Jets, then the Hawks are gonna stop them.
But if the Jets, like you said, there's as much
I think there's as much talent on the Jets roster
(07:04):
as there is on the Seahawks roster. So if that
talent for one game more, there might be more, There
might be more. So yeah, so that's what worries me
as a Seahawk fan. I'm like, Okay, if for one
game that talent can get together and play well, then
the Hawks are in trouble. So that my question is
is their fight left in the football team?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I can't. Honestly, I hope there is. I hope for
my sake, I'll be there.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I feel like Softie and I have been to at
least combine every single Jets Seahawks game and every game
I go and thinking, you know, it's gonna be good
for the Jets, and every game they lose, and Softy
mocks me without mercy. But you ask, can the Jets
put together four quarters? I literally have not seen it
at any point at any game this season have they
(07:48):
put in four quarters? If the Seahawks put in four
quarters of real competitive football, I think they win. But
if the Jets can give it, can give you know,
us home fans two and a half quarters. They've always
been a second half team. If they can, you know,
give us ten points in the first half, I think
there's a good chance.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
By the way, I got a picture. I'm staring at
a picture right now. New Year's Day, twenty twenty three.
Cousin Evan despondent in the stands at Lumenfield as the
Seahawks took the Jets down. So, uh, don't test me
or I may end up tweeting this stuff out after
the game on Sunday. But guys, I gotta be honest
with you. This is not Evan's fault. I blame his
father for making him a Jet fan. I mean, your
(08:30):
dad had a choice. Your dad had a choice with
his life. He could have been a Giant fan. He
could have said that, hell were it. The Patriots are
one hundred miles away, let's just root for them. Instead,
he brought you down this cesspool with him. You want
to blame Anyboddy, blame Brian Lillienthal for the position that
you find yourself in.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I mean, if we're gonna be honest, it's not my father.
It's my my father's father, the season ticket holder for
the Jets at State Stadium. And I'm just as bad
as my father, my father's father, because, like Softy said,
I have a new baby girl eight months today, and
unfortunately for her, she can make any decision she wants
in life up to a certain point within reason, but
(09:12):
she cannot choose another football team. So I am passing
the deadly curse onto the next generation, just as my
father did to me.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Well, you know, we're Mariner fans, so we know exactly
what you're going through, and we know what it feels
like to have that passed on to our generation and
passing it on to the next general.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Actually we don't because the Jets. The Jets have at
least been to a super Bowl. We've never been to
a World Series. It's even worse.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I mean, I will say this, imagine being in New
York and being a Jets fan, a Mets fan, and
a Knicks fan over the last twenty five to thirty years,
which is my entire LIFETIMEE.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, that sounds like drugs, by the way, heavy heavy drugs.
Heavy drugs. All right, man, Hey go go get good luck.
Good luck to you. We love you, congratulations, God everything.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
We talk soon, all right, buddy, love you guys, Salty Dick,
thank you so much for having me on and have
a happy thanksgivin you too.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Man. Cousin Evan with us on the radio show. No
better way to go when you're looking for Jet insider
information than our friend my cousin cousin Evan in New York.
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