Furness Show 1-27: Saints DC Joe Woods, Mike Sando and Jimmy Rogers in studio

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five twenty three Chiefs going for the three peat thirty
two to twenty nine over the Buffalo bill Seahawks reportedly
have their new offensive coordinator, and Clinton Kubiaki joined Seattle
from the Saints at the same title in New Orleans.
In twenty twenty four, we'll talk to Saints defensive coordinator
Joe Woods who worked with him down in New Orleans.

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That should be some good insight coming up at twelve
twenty todays. Stay tuned for that. Kraken gotta win on Saturday,
knocked off the Rangers four to one and a matinee
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the ice either in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, City of champions.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Six point thirty is the face off. Six o'clock is
the pre game. We'll have that for you. Andrews on
the pregame, Benton on the call, Everett moves over to TV.
It's a Monday game. That means that Forzel is doing
his national gig. So got some changes in the booths
plural so to speak. Storm Blockbuster trade man. I don't

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I know they were forced into it, but who y
yea yea yay.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, I thought it might.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Everyone thought that was that was a pipe dream. Everyone
was hoping for that to happen. And if you want
to sell tickets and get people excited, that would have happened. Instead,
you trade away your best player because she wanted to leave.
Jewel Lloyd is gone. In return, the Storm get a
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and the second overall pick that's the big thing. You
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comes out, she'll be number one if she comes out.
If she doesn't, then drops down. But yeah, interesting, let's
go welcome in on this Monday afternoon. Jessice here.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
I just what's up?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
No? Anders? He was doing the show earlier with Chris
Kid filling in for Greg Bell, and then Andrews has
some hockey duties tonight six o'clock pregame, weird start six thirty.
What are we doing?

Speaker 5 (02:20):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't know what we're doing up there. I don't
know what we're doing up there. Who knows? Who knows? Anyway,
we digress. We've got a lot to get to today.
Seahawks have a new offensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak. Is in
a report of the sea exit and say anything out
as far as I've seen, right, nothing official from them.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
No, they put it out on their is.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
It on the Seahawks pr?

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yes it is so, it is official, but they haven't announcement.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah. I forgot, I
have to I forgot. I have to get my news
via Seahawks Twitter sometimes good times.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Sometimes yeah, or if you just set up alerts for the.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Noky no, I don't want alerts. I want no alerts
I want. But that makes sense. Thank you, Thank you
for doing that for me, because I do. I yes, Seahawks,
PR crack and PR all.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
The it was put out there yesterday and then we're awaiting.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
It was good to know because I didn't know. I
didn't know if I had to, like, you know, I
would you say it to that? Good attribution to somebody
else along the way. By the way, Leonard Williams also
named the Pro Bowl. He was an alternate. He's going
in too. Yeah, Seahawks hard Clelton could beac because the
offensive coordinator. This afternoon, there it is. That was nineteen
hours ago. Nineteen hours ago? Was I even nineteen hours ago?

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, you know I tried to call you during that
period of time and I was like twenty bucks straight
to voicemail.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, I didn't have my phone around, didn't care. It
was good. It was going to have a couple of cocktails,
watch some football yesterday. That's what I wanted to do.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
All right.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
We got our offs. So yeah, Well, Joe Woods is
a Saints defensive coordinator. I assume he played for your
dad coached at them. Okay, there you go good to have,
good to have those good to have coach mcintires connections
along the way. So we're we're going to check in
with him coming up at twelve twenty. Fun to hear,
you know what he's going to plan it. Their offense

(04:09):
was really good until guys got hurt in New Orleans. Yeah, weird,
how that strange how that happens. Your offense is good,
then key guys get hurt, namely the quarterback, and you're
not as good anymore. Strange, weird kind of the way
of the game. But he's bounced around a little bit. Obviously,
great lineage. Gary kubek Son, So the thing I thought
was interesting he was a college safety and ends up

(04:31):
being a guy that's coaching quarterbacks in the offense in
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
My father was an offensive lineman and coached linebackers for.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah, thirty years.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
So yeah, yeah, so it's it's it's an interesting, you know,
dynamic in that regard. But we'll we'll talk to him
at the fact that they don't have to now what
they're going to do with the rest of the offensive staff.
Who knows, you know, do they bring in a run
game coordinator? Is that something that they look at doing
Zach me and Scott huffs on the on the on

(04:59):
the edge, who knows so well and Joe won't know
that stuff. We just want to get a feel from
Joe what to expect from the offense and what he's
going to see. What makes this guy a good higher
right DC.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
He practiced against his offense very single day, so he
can give us some really good insight.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, so we're looking forward to doing that. Coming up
at twelve twenty today, the Pete Carroll had his news
conference today with the Raiders, and we're going to play
that sound coming up. At one point thirty got great
great moment from that. In there Marshawn Lynch, I guess
was sitting in the back and yell something about go
Raiders at one point during during the news conference today

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or just yelled Raiders. Pete was saying something along the
lines if he wants to see more home fans, Raider
fans in the stands at Allegiance Stadium there in Las Vegas.
They're kind of in the same boat as the teams
that play and so far, when you relocate, and especially
when you relocate to a place that you know is

(05:59):
a death Nation Vegas. Yeah, and Vegas is well, and
you got the transient nature of the city of the cities,
but more so you've got places that people want to
go and you don't have a built in fan base,
you know, like the Raiders come from Oakland via La
La via Oakland twice, all that stuff, and then they
moved to Vegas. Well, it's their team, but their team

(06:21):
came from two other cities. And more importantly, Vegas is
a place everybody wants to go if you're an NFL fan.
It's like, man, great indoor game, won't have to worry
about whether it's Vegas and away we go. And SOFI
is kind of the same way. SOFI more so with
the Chargers, Like for the Charges, it's really bad, Like
it's really bad Rams so so because they were there before.
But yeah, he's probably right, I'm sure. And you know

(06:43):
how you get more fans in their pete they're wearing
Raiders gear wine. That's pretty much the recipe win, right,
So when and I think you will. I think Marshawn
being there is awesome. It's it's telling as well. Ian
Port had a story yesterday that said there could now

(07:04):
I love you rap I love, but I love the
stories there. There could be a reunion with Russell Wilson
and Pete Carroll in Vegas.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
You're right, it's anything is possible.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
There could be snow Friday in the Lowlands here in
the Northwest.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
There could be a restructuring of Geno Smith's contract. I
don't know how much. I mean, there's a lot of
things that could be out there. The fact the doors open,
and we talked about this with Greg Bell on Friday.
It's not shocking because Pete is the most I don't
know forgivings the right word not for him. Yeah, it's

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just he doesn't hold grudges. He doesn't. He just that's
not that for him. Is not something he does. I know.
There's a lot of people that would want no part
of Russell Wilson ever again in the organization that currently
is known as the Seattle Seahawks Football Club. No, none, zero. Done.
Now he'll be in the Ring of Honor someday, he'll
be honored here. Someday he was your Super Bowl winning quarterback.

(08:00):
But it was not fun at the end for people
in that building with Russ. Pete's a different cut from
a different cloth. We talked about it with the other day.
Marshawn Lynch was was doing slam dunks on a basketball
hoop in the indoor facility in twenty seventeen or sixteen.
When in fifteen whenever the hell was when they went
to Minnesota game and he said, Man, my back hurts

(08:21):
is too cold. I'm not going. He had all kinds
of He caused a lot of angst for people and Pete.
But there's Marshawn and Pete reunited. The interesting thing is
you started seeing all those dudes come back when Russ
was gone. Interesting like you started seeing Doug and Marshawn

(08:44):
and Michael Clifford. I couldn't have those other guys around,
But that's I think. My other thing is like, make
Marsham part of your staff. I mean, I'd be like
the most Raiders Vegas thing.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Ever money right there.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
But I don't know if you can. I mean, Marshawn's
just such a he just fly, He's just got from
a different cloth. I'm not sure if you could. He well,
great businessman, but I mean the working twelve hours a
day in a facility probably not Marshawn's thing. But we'll see.
He played there obviously, you know, is he do you do?
You have him hang around kind of like you did
here with Mike and Cliff for a while and Pete

(09:22):
was still here. It's a different issue with aoth those
guys here, h and Mike McDonald's taken over. But yeah,
I mean, we'll see what what Marshawan does. That's an
organization that Pete's. To me, it's just a good fit.
It's a good fit. Now he doesn't have a quarterback.
They've got a couple of pieces we talked about Friday,

(09:42):
but they've got a lot of work to do. I
root for him, man I. I you know, Softy and
I were talking about the same thing Friday. I'm sure
if you quite got that the but you know, I mean,
Pete's a guy that is a borderline Hall of Famer. Yeah,
we'll ask Sandu about it today. Mike knows that stuff
better than anybody you know. Does Does Pete have more
work to do along the way to get into the
Hall of Fame? I would think I would hope not.

(10:06):
But I think if you just look at who's in
and who's not in, and who the candidates already get
in and down the road, probably does probably does. So
we'll see. We'll get into the super Bowl a little
bit later on as well, maybe this hour twelve forty
five or even at the end of the conversation with
Joe Woods, because there's a lot to get to with
that matchup is set. I think we would all agree, right,
two best teams are probably in it. Yeah, they were

(10:29):
at the number one seed, the Philadelphia Eagles. Detroit was,
but the Detroit team that was the number one seed wasn't.
When the Detroit team we saw with all the injuries,
I think right now safe to stay in the NFC.
That's the best teams. Philadelphia, they proved it. You drop
fifty five even with short fields and turnovers. That's an
impressive win that they had yesterday. And then obviously what
the Chiefs are doing there on the cosp of history.
Root form, don't root for him, doesn't matter. We're going

(10:50):
to watch a Super Bowl that has historic implications on
the line. That's kind of cool, that's pretty awesome.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Now that the teams are set, I know what I'm rooting.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
For, and you can root for them to lose, you
can root for them to win, whatever you look at
in that particular game. We know this it's a historical
super Bowl. Every Super Bowl is historical, but this one
has a little something different. This one has a little
something different along the way because of the chance to
do something called a three peat, which just hasn't been done,
especially in the modern era, where it's it's a different game.

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I know there's a lot of comparisons to Pittsburgh and
everything else, and what the Steelers were and who they were,
and and you know, they won the two straight games series,
they won four out of what six whatever it was.
But this is different. Man, free agency, the salary cap,
all the things that make it so so hard to repeat,
much less have a three peat which hasn't been done.
Historic implications of the line, so a lot to get

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to the rule match up. His sets, lots to talk
about today. Joining us right now on the Beacon Plumbing
hot Line to discuss the guy he knows well, the
new offensive coordinator with the Seattle Seahawks and that made
that announcement yesterday. Quinn Kubiak is that new offensive coordinator.
He was with the Saints last year in that role,

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and across the way from him, the Saints defensive coordinator.
Joined us right now on the Beacon Plumbing hot Line.
Joe Woods is with us. Hi, Joe, how are you?

Speaker 3 (12:51):
How you doing? How you doing?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I appreciate you coming on today, man. I know what
it's probably what wild world you live in? Man, This
coaching profession, isn't it. I know you guys are waiting
to see what happens down in New Orleans with the
head coach Clinton. Clinton now leaves and I just in
a general sense you guys, that coach you're cut from
a different cloth. Man, How do you do it? How
do you do it? Man?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
No, I know it's just one of those deals. Man,
we all coaches level we do it really doesn't feel
like a real job. Get to continue on, you know,
coaching football, you know, developing young players. But again, it's
just something that we know at some point in time. Man,
you know things are gonna go your way. You may
get fired here and there. But I've enjoyed it for

(13:35):
thirty years.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
And it sounds like and I know, I know where
you learn your craft from, just as dad. So that's
that's an awesome place to start along the way. So,
and that's quite a coaching tree he's had over the
years as well. I want to before I get to Clint,
I got to ask you this. You guys lost to
the Philadelphia Eagles, but you lost fifteen to twelve, so
your defense must have done something well against them along

(13:57):
the way.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
What what?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
What? What's the key to stop up in the Philadelphia Eagles?
If Andy Reid calls you up tomorrow, what do you
tell him?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
It's very hard. They're a tremendous team, they have talent.
You know, one of the best old lines in the NFL.
They have the skill players, they have their running back,
they're talented at all positions. I just think we did
a good job our guys that game that came down
to really like the last series, but very talented team.
They can run the.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Tow the ball Parkley had one forty seven issue guys
and stuff. I was like, turnovers might have hurt them
along the way, but is that a case with him,
Like he's going to get his Like you just kind
of have to hope it's not a home run or
something along the way. He's just he's going to get
his yards along the way, and you just kind of
try to slowver theing else down.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, you saw in the championship game. I think we
played them tough throughout the game and then I think
we ran a zero pressure and he in a little
crease and went I think seventy yards or swing us
that one hundred and forty seven. But he's tough and
he's a home run hitter. He can go at any point.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Joe was joining us all right. He is the Saints
defensive coordinator and the offensive coordinator for New for New Orleans.
Last season was Clint Kubiak. He is the new offensive
coordinator for the Seahawks. They made that announcement yesterday. What
are the Seahawks getting in Clint Kubiak?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Joe, Yeah, I know, Clint's gonna have an opportunity to
address it, you know, with the median air. But you know,
all I can really say is he really comes from,
you know, a football family. Everybody talks about the Shanahans,
Mike and Kyle, but that second family of footballs, you know,
Gary Kubiak and Clint along with his brother. But those

(15:35):
guys know the system well. I have a lot of
respect for Clint. A very smart football player, great relationship
with the players, very innovative. You know, he spent time
with with Kyle and san Fran. But those guys all
run that system. They have their own little twist on it.
And I thought that Clint did a great job, especially

(15:56):
dealing with all the injuries we had this past season.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, for people that don't remember, it was it was
a heck of a start for the New Orleans Saints
offensively and defensive. You guys got things were going well
early on ninety some odd points the first two games combined,
and then weird injuries happen and you're not quite as good.
That's It's funny. You can be the smartest coach in
the world, but if you have injuries that that kind
of takes a little steam out of there and probably

(16:21):
caused a lot of the issues this season. Is that's
safe to say the injuries kind of just changed everything
for your team.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, it did. And then you know, as a coach,
you never make excuses, and that's the only thing with
Quin you know, he never came in many excuses. He
was always next man up mentality, tried to put together
the best playing game plan that he could. But sitting
on the other side looking at it, it was it
was tough when you, you know, lose six to seven of
your starters or no on one side of the ball,
it's tough to overcome. But again, he did a great

(16:50):
job with the guys that he had.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
What what are the traits of what you see from
him schematically maybe, but just also like in terms of
the coach, it's a good relationship guy. I mean, you know,
we had a guy here in Ryan Grubb that was
it just didn't work out. The philosophy wasn't there. And listen,
you probably laugh as a defensive coach because I don't
think there's a head coach in the in the history

(17:12):
of football. Not actually there always is one. I always
have to preface this by saying, because we I'm gonna
watch the state alum just works with the Cougs on
the sidelines for football. Mike Leach might be the one
exception Joe that doesn't say that, doesn't say the following
We've got to establish the run. We've got to run
the football. Everyone says that. But when you look at
it at a Clint Kubiak offense, what are the traits

(17:33):
is is? I mean, I think he's known for his
passing game acumen and IQ, but what are the traits
of a Clint Kubiak offense In general terms.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
It's it's really the marriage to run a pass game
and all the if you cut all the teams out there,
whether it's San Free and Minnesota, Green Bay, the Rams, Miami,
it's all part of the same system. And part of
that is you know, marrying the run game up with
the pass, so you know, establish a run, get guys
in the box, and then now either with the play

(18:03):
action pass or the boot leg. That's the trademark to
that system again, Clint, you know, learning the system from
his dad and other coaches. That's where it all comes from.
And I think he's very innovative putting it together, you know,
because now with all the motions, you know, with the
college spread, coming into the NFL, with all the motions,

(18:24):
the turbo emotions, you know, really doing the same thing,
but now you have the motion element added to it.
And I think he does a great job putting that
stuff together. And I know that, you know, Seattle has
some weapons on offense, so I look forward to seeing
what he can do.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm curious. I thought it was interesting, and I know
this happens often, but it's still interesting. He was actually
a safety in college, right, and then he moves and
he's been coaching the offense since he kind of came
into the NFL. We all know his dad was a
quarterback and you know GARYT. Yeah, all those things, but
you're a defensive guy. Does that kind of help him?

(19:00):
Though he's coached the offense forever, but he played defense.
I've always wondered how that works. I don't know what
position you played back in the day, if you were
an offensive guy or defensive guy. But it's interesting to
see a guy that was on one side of the
ball as a player, but now he moves to the
other side of the balls player. I would I would
assume that helps a little bit.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, I'm sure, just from seeing it from a defensive standpoint,
you know, and along the way in that system, they've
always been great just in terms identifying what the defense
is doing. So being on that side of the ball,
seeing it, you know, from a safety perspective, I'm sure
that helps him. It's probably been a long time since
he's been over there, but just having that knowledge, I'm

(19:38):
sure helps him. He with us together.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
He wasn't coming over telling you how to run the
secondary or anything like that. No, that wasn't happening for you.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
No, that wasn't doing him either.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
So Joe Woods joining us for a couple of moments.
He's the defensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints. Worked
last year with Clint Kubiak, who was a new offensive
coordinator for your Seahawks. You mentioned it along the way,
there's some weapons. If you're I'm just going to ask
you in general terms as a defensive coach and you're
looking over at Seattle, what do you see in Gino Smith.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Uh, I know he's played really well, especially the last
few years, you know, in his time there in Seattle.
But you know, you're there's a guy that can make
all the throws. You know, he's an athletic quarterback. He
has our talent, he's mobile with things break down. I
know he can create things and extend plays with his
feet and uh, you know part of that system again,

(20:32):
all those teams I named that really run this type
of system all really have mobile type quarterbacks. So I
think it's a system that he'll definitely have an opportunity
to be a playmaker in.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I feel like there's some some similarities between him and
car a little bit too, right. So that's the guy
that he's you know that you guys had down there
before he got banged up. I go one more frea
because I'm just curious. This is this is one a
huge topic of conversation up here in Seattle. Joe is
DK Metcalf, And you know, finding a guy a coordinator
that can really get the most out of Dk Metcalf.

(21:03):
You're a defensive guy. Your defensive coordinator didn't play him
this year. But if you I'm not even sure. Maybe
over the years you have seen him with other stops
along the way. How do you when you look at
DK Metcalf, what is the defensive coordinator Joe woodsc in?
DK Metcalf.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
A big, strong, physical receiver that's extremely fast. He is
a difficult matchup and he's one of the first things
to talk about, you know, when you're preparing to play
the Sea Ox And I was back in San fran
back in I think twenty nineteen. We had to play
against him, you know, twice that year. But he was
He was definitely a problem. But I think offensively it's

(21:42):
just you know, him being a part of your system.
And like we were talking about earlier, you know, when
you established a run game, now you're creating more one
on ones and they're putting more guys in the box.
So I think it's a good system for him to
be a part of. But he is, he is definitely
a problem.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Final things for you super Bowl matchup. I want a
circle back to that Chiefs and the Eagles. What are
a couple of the big things that you just as
a football guy and a fan. If my if my
listeners right now, my football fan listeners are listening right Now,
what's Joe Woods watching? What do you what's Coach Woods watching?
When you watch that Super Bowl here in thirteen days.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I'm just sitting back and I'm really I'm watching the
offenses operate. Had a chance to coach against both, you know,
I was at Denver for four years, had a chance
to go against Patrick Mahomes. But right now are the
champions that are going for the three peat. They just
find a way to win. Canada. Day game is going
to go down to the wire that somebody's gonna have

(22:40):
to make a play. But two exciting offenses with a
lot of weapons, it's gonna be a fun game.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Hey, Joe, really appreciate you coming on today. We're excited
about Clint here and thinking for you and the best
yet to come. Like you said, you've been You've been
to get around this league for a long time. And
as we wait to see what happens in New Orleans,
we will keep an eye on what happens to Coach
Woods because we really appreciate you popping on and talking
to us about Clint Kubiak today and hopefully we'll talk
down the road again. Man, thank you so much for
doing this today.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, greatly, appreciate it. Thanks, thanks seeing.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
All right, take care. That is Joe Woods. He's the
defensive coordinator with the New Orleans Saints, joining us here
on the Beacon Plumbing hot line. A guy that has
coached with and obviously in practice against Clint Kubiak. And
I brought up dk Metcalf Jess for this reason.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
And I like my buddy Mike Varrell at the Times,
but he's the latest guy to write the story the
column Seahawk should consider a DK Metcalf trade for the
right return. And you know, I just I always circle
back to to me, whether it's Shane Waldron, Ryan Grubb,
before that it was was it shoddy? It was shoddy?

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Right?

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, it was shoddy for a year. Like like you
just you hear what coach would said. The first thing
we do is when we game plan, see against Seattle
when he was insane, the first thing we did was
was DK Metcalf And that that's what Hughes talked about
so often, you know, and I think, you know, it's
it's almost what I hear people. I want Hugh to

(24:09):
scream it from the mountaintops or put a billboard up
somewhere like this is a guy that makes everybody else better.
And there aren't many players like that that don't have
the ball in their hand every play aka a quarterback
that make everyone else better, like everyone else around them better. Now,

(24:29):
the job of the offensive coordinator is to make that guy,
make him truly the one that everyone does have to
worry about. That the Joe Woods of the world, the
defensive coordinators in the NFL, when they're scheming against these guys. Damn.
First thing I got to do is he just said,
I got where do I you know? Where's DK What's
he doing? That's the guy we worry about number one.

(24:51):
You know. Yeah, they've got Ken Walker, They've got JSN,
They've got you know, they got other dudes, Sharvine if
you want to throw him in the mix, whatever it
might be. But the first thing you do is at
and I you know, I read Mike's column and I
was just I kind of shaking my head again. I'm
thinking to myself, what, First of all, you're not gonna
get a first round pick for him. I mean, the
market has established that when receivers have been traded over

(25:11):
the last couple of years, especially with a contract coming
up and the money involved there and there's not a
first round like Jeremiah Smith comes out right now from
my host, everybody said, ah, he's a consensus number one guy,
and maybe he would be. Maybe he would be. And
you watch him play, he's a man against boys as
an eighteen year old freshman in college football playing for
Ohio State. But think about this. There was a game

(25:32):
this year in the playoffs, the semi finals to be exact,
where he got one catch or two catches. What the
hell was they took him out of the game right like,
like it's not like you like it's hard. You as
an offensive play caller, you as a quarterback, have to
get your best player involved. And I'm just I'm crossing
my fingers. I'm hoping, like hell that that's what Clint

(25:53):
Kubiak does. We thought that was going to happen with
Shane Waldron, it didn't. We thought that would happen with
Ryan Grubb, it didn't. Now, DK, in fairness to Grubb
was banged up this season, yes, like he missed games,
he was hurt. Who knows what the guy like DK
metcalf how banged up he really was. And there are
things I think Mike mentioned this in the Colmedi's right.

(26:14):
There are times, there are times with DK that maybe
he doesn't win the contested battle that he should, maybe
he doesn't make the catch that he should. He's not
a dropsy guy, but for as big and strong as
he is, maybe there's every now and then you if
that that might be a fair criticism. I have to
ask you, I think we might have Hugh on tomorrow. Yes,
we're talked about about Klinton Kubiak in the offense, and

(26:36):
but you know, I'm gonna say this, Hugh, if you're listening,
I know you've already studied every snap that Klint Kubiak
has had in the NFL as an offense.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Quare I know that they were given him an extra
twenty four.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Will give you an extra twenty four hours to look
at all those plays again and find out, you know,
can he get this guy involved? Because to me, everything
else the offensive line is what it is, it's going
to it has to improve. I'm going to say something
really bumbest thing I'll say all week. Mark this down,
dumbest thing I'll say all week, twelve thirty seven pm
on a Monday. Okay, I've got the rest of the
week to try to top this. Let's not center to

(27:09):
the rest of the week. I have the top what
I'm gonna say right now, which will be the dumbest
thing you'll hear all week. Okay, here it is that
offensive line can't get worse.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Oh Ian, what did you do?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
It can't get worse. You're tempting fate, right The Seahawk
offensive line has to be better next year. Well, yes,
it has to be. It can't get worse. You can't
have a one legged center. You can't have three players
at right guard, not because of injuries as much as anything,
just three players rotating in at right guard because you
couldn't figure out who your right guard was. Abe's going

(27:42):
to be healthier. I think that makes them better automatically,
Like he talked about first offseason he's had where he's
not getting surgery and getting you know, Abele Lucas and
getting Yeah, this, he'll be better because he'll be healthy.
Maybe Cross will find the weight room along the way,
and you know, as co Sell's concerns about him, you know,
sometimes getting overpowered, and they'll they'll find a left guard

(28:03):
they have to. They'll be better. So with that assumption
in place, what's the next step. Well, you've got this
as you calls them, Ferrari that words number fourteen. You've
got another guy at number eleven that just had a
career year. Make those guys hard to stop. Make those
guys hard to stop. What makes Philadelphia great? Well, like

(28:25):
he like Joe was just said, you've got a game
plan against Sakwan Barkley, but they also have two damn
good wide receivers and a really good tight end.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Jalen Hurts stepped up to the plate yesterday too.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
But more weapons make you a better football team, weird,
not less, not draft picks. More makes you better. So
I think I'm confident. I love I think Mike McDonald.
I know people weren't thrilled because you let the guy
go after one year, and Ryan Grubb and you know
home runs, still chirping about that and mad about that.
I get it. I understand all that.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
I mean Corn's article on that too.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Understand that you have a head coach that is doing
what he thinks is best. And this guy he proved
it with his defense this year. Now he goes out.
He had a nice long runway, plenty of options to
choose to go. Pick an offensive coordinator that he feels.
And I know Schneider and McDonald both kind of well.

(29:22):
Schneider we haven't heard from, but I know McDonald bristled
when Greg aswam about, you know, having the chance to
actually hire the guy. And I know Schneider or McDonald's
like one hundred percent leil Mike John Schneider said he
was gonna have a say in the hiring of the
assistant coaches. Don't think for a second that that wasn't
as much as schneider hire as McDonald's. This was a
Mike McDonald higher on the same page, on the same wavelength,

(29:43):
a guy that he can sync up with, and that
is a damn good thing along the way. So let's
cross our fingers and hope Clint Kubiak comes in and
with again dumb a single sail week. The offensive line
can't get worse. It will be better. It will be better,
has to be better, will be better. See what he
can do with that team. All right, talk a little
more Super Bowl matchup when we come back. We had
daily power play at one forty five today. Sandal's gonna

(30:05):
join us at one this afternoon, little earlier than normal.
Pick six column. We'll talk to him about, among other things,
He's got the columns great this morning, and also I'm
gonna ask him about the Hall of Fame with Pete
and where he thinks that Pete is in that regard,
because it's we've talked about it last week. He's kind
of on that, kind of on that borderline, kind of
on the cusp along the way. So all that has
come today and then Washington State's new head football coach

(30:26):
our first chance to talk to him. He'll actually be
in studio today, Jimmy Rodgers coming up A two twenty
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Speaker 1 (30:34):
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Speaker 2 (30:49):
US listening off and on this morning, driving in to
the Chris Kidd Anderson Hurst Stravaganza. Guys who did a
good job today filling in for Greg and and Chris
made a comment that I've heard other people make that
I thought was interesting because I don't think you can
make a definitive comment in this regard. He says, Oh,

(31:11):
you know, like Josh Allen's gonna get his Super Bowl,
and you know Lamar's going to get his and they're
kind of the boys were kind of discussing that, Well,
no guarantee that happens, and you know, people always point back,
and it's true, you go back. Dan Marino, one of
the all time great quarterbacks in the history of our game,
got to the Super Bowl one time as a rookie,
never got back, didn't win either as a rookie, and

(31:33):
never got back.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Jim Kelly, Jim.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Kelly Hall of Famer, never won a Super Bowl. Josh Allen, Lamar, Jackson,
Joe Burrow. Sandal wrote about this today. That's who the
Chiefs have beaten in the last three consecutive AFC Championship Games.
Josh Allen, Lamar, Jackson, Joe Burrow. Even if one of
those guys were to beat Patrick Mahomes, and Joe Burrow

(31:59):
did one year and he still lost, if you remember,
because Joe Cinctanty Bengals lost Super Bowl fifty six to
the La Rams. So like, there is no guarantee. It
also made me when I saw that this morning in
Santo's calm. We'll talk to Mike coming up here in
just a few minutes. It also honestly made me think

(32:22):
as bitter as we are about what happened in Super
Bowl forty nine, rightfully so it and not getting the
back to back wins for Seattle. And I think I
think the Seahawks, frankly, honestly, I think they were a
better football team than New England that year. They lose

(32:42):
by four. You can't tell me that losing Jeremy Lane
and Cliff Avril didn't change that game entirely. It did
to injuries, not before the game, but in game that
those were game changing injuries, even without the ill fated
call at the goal line and everything else. And so yeah,

(33:03):
we're always going to be bitter about what happened then,
But think about it just for a second. If you're
a Bills fan, you've never and I think Hugh brought
it up this morning. The number of years is insane,
the Buffalo number of seasons, the Buffalo fan base, between
the Bills, the old Buffalo Braves NBA team that was there,

(33:24):
and the Sabers NHL team. It's like, I'm gonna it's
like one hundred and fifty years of combined seasons roughly,
give or take. And he brought it up this morning again,
the exact number They've never won a championship. The Bills
have never won that's the big one for them, but
they've Sabers have never even come close to an NHL

(33:45):
Stanley Cup Final. The Ravens have won it, but they're
in an era right now. They've got Lamar Jackson multiple
time MVP, haven't won it with him. My point is
this really hard to win. Always, we should cherish that
Super Bowl victory in Super Bowl forty eight because it's

(34:08):
and and it's kind of made more impressive by the
fact that Seattle didn't just beat a team with Nick
Foles at quarterback or whoever, like right, nobody, I mean
most of the time. I mean I was gonna I
guess you could you know, Joe Flacco. They beat Peyton Manning. Yeah,

(34:29):
they beat Peyton Manning. Yes, Like that's incredible.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Peyton after that, you can't call that curtains of his career.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Historically, also the best offense in the history of the
NFL at the time. Yes, and they whacked him, punched
them right in the face. So hard to win a
Super Bowl, so hard to get to a Super Bowl.
I kept watching DQ yesterday on the sideline. It was just,
you know, I mean, he did at you can tell
how much he's matured as a coach and how good
he is a coach, because things were not going his

(34:58):
way ever in that game, and just when they did
and they'd cut it to a one score game, boom,
another turnover, something would happen.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Three terrible and.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
He's trying to keep those guys in line and try
and you know, you go down on an eighteen play
drive or whatever the hell was in that first possession
and you get only three out of it, but you
get three.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
I was happy they took seven minutes off the clock
to be Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Take time off the clock, You're loving it. And then boom,
next play is a home run hit or by Barkley,
and you just looked at him and like it is hard.
Everyone was thinking, you know what, Philadelphia is flowing? No, man,
just getting to this point is hard, so damn hard.
So I can't wait for the Super Bowl. I think
we're all kind of the same mode. It's whoever you're
rooting for, whether you're rooting for a three peet or
whether you're rooting for the Eagles. I'm not sure how

(35:42):
Like this is kind of one of those hard ones
to root for not a lot of Philadelphia Eagles fans
outside of Philadelphia, and a lot of people are just
burned out with the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
I'm not if this is going to be the matchup
in the Super Bowl. I'm all Chiefs are. I want
to witness history. And I have nothing against Patrick Mahomes.
I understand and the fatigue, but I don't have anything
against him.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, the the fatigue I get.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
The fatigue I get with Tom Brady. Yeah, it's it's yeah, Mahomes.
I find more likable Brady, don't you Like there's something
about him that's a little more likable and he.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Doesn't have the whole GQ thing going on, and yeah,
he he is extremely likable.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
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doing on the way to mortality. We'll talk about coaching
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with Sando and just a couple of second Seahawks have

(37:32):
their new offensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak comes here from the
New Orleans Saints. We talked about that with Joe Woods earlier,
if you missed it. Joe Woods, by the way, was
a defensive coordinator for the Saints, coached with and against
him in practice, but obviously with them on the same staff.
Joe joined us a last hour. You can hear that
on the podcast later on today when just post it.

(37:53):
Cracking tonight in Edmonton to take on the Oilers six
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(38:14):
take care of the request of one Jewel Lloyd to
trade her. I want out, She's one out and she's out.
She's on her way to Las Vegas. Or replays Kelsey Plumb,
who then joins the Sparks, a three way trade all
the way around. Seattle ends up with the number two
pick in the April WNBA draft. Could be really good
depending on who comes out, because we all know with

(38:36):
women's basketball now can make more money in college until
next year. Most people think Paige Beckers might stay in.
She's got one more year she can use. She's a
presumptuous she's the number one pick overall, but she'd make
more money at Yukon and then next year the salary
cap in the WNBA, the salary structure changes. So basically

(38:57):
the long way of saying, she'd be a fool to
come out this year. See I wouldn't get at number
two anyway. All right, let's get to it. Mike Sando
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Speaker 2 (39:26):
Mike Sando joins us on Mondays, usually a little later.
He was kind enough to move around because Jimmy Rodgers,
the new head football coach at Washington University, will be
in studio in just over an hour's time, so we
were moving Mike around today to the one o'clock hour,
So I thank you for that. How are you, sir, good?

Speaker 7 (39:42):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I'm good. I'm very good. I'm very good. There's a
lot to discuss today. I loved one of my favorite things.
And maybe this is this is because I'm older, Mike,
and I've seen we've like seen a lot over the years.
Is the discussion of dynasties. We'll get to that in
a second, because you wrote in like a lot of
us just have a subjective way to look at it.
You are Mike Sandos. Of course you dug way way

(40:05):
deeper than the rest of us. And we'll talk about
that in a second. Let me let me start with
this coaching and the Hall of Fame. We are hoping
Mike Hombrin gets in. He's the coaching nominee this year.
It's not a slam dunk. We'll find out when do
we find out? By the way, with that, with all
the Hall of Fame stuff.

Speaker 7 (40:22):
It's the Thursday before the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Thursday before, so a week from this Thursday. Okay, so
we find out then about Mike and if he's going
to get in and all that. What does Pete Carroll
have to do do you think with the Raiders to
increase or or to solidify a chance to get in.

Speaker 7 (40:42):
I think just not lose a bunch of games, right,
you know, sometimes he may make it anyway, but I
think like having a real downer where you h you know,
really we're one of the worst teams over a two
or three year period wouldn't help, right, But I think
he's you know, I think if he has a successful tenure,

(41:03):
which for there is probably you know, do you go
to the playoffs once or something like that, I think
that it would be pretty uh you know, easy to
make a good case for him, and then the process
you know, plays out and is difficult because there's a
lot of better good coaches. I mean, we're you know,
if Mike Holmgren gets in this time, which I think

(41:23):
he probably will, but I don't know, then next year,
you know, Belichick could be in the queue, uh, and
Mike Shanahan's there, and Tom Coughlin's there, and you know
who knows when Andy Reid's going to be there, right,
So it can take a while. If there's utter guys
that are in the mix, you don't really know how
it's gonna go. And Mike Holmgren's seen that where there's

(41:43):
times where you thought, okay, he's the best got candidate,
but then he wasn't the choice out of the committee
that year just because other people have cases too.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
So well, he's got a good case, yeah, I mean
with Pete because Softing, we're having this discussion on Friday.
You know, Pete's seventeenth all time in wins. He has
what is it, one hundred and seventy wins and one hundred,
so he's plus fifty in terms of win loss. So
there's no way he'll end up being, you know, having

(42:12):
a sub five hundred mark or anything like that. Is
there a winning percentage that comes into play at all
with with coaches because you mentioned like not having a cut,
Like he can't really afford to have a couple of
really bad years. So is there a winning percentage because
it comes in at all?

Speaker 7 (42:26):
Well, I think it depends what your upside is. Like,
you know, Tom Coughlin doesn't have that high of a
win percentage. I think it's fifty three percent for his career,
but the two super Bowl wins, you know, probably help him,
and then somebody else might have a you know, Marty
Schottenheimer has a super high win percentage with two hundred wins,
but didn't get to the Super Bowl, so he has
a harder time, right, So there's no cookie cutter way.

(42:47):
But I feel like, you know, if you have obviously
about five hundred, but you know, if you've won super Bowls,
I think you can be a little lower in the
fifty threes. You know, win percent, and if you're really good,
you're in the sixties.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
That's really good.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
So like Holmgrin's tenure in Green Bay is one of
the all time greats. He's sixty seven percent winner with
over one hundred games. There's only I believe seven coaches
in the history of football, I believe who have done that.
You know, to be one hundred games in a place,
win sixty seven percent, win a championship. There's a better
criteria in there that I put together, but he's on

(43:26):
a very short list of that. So they're all a
little different. But you know, number of championships, win percent,
number of places you went and did you did you
succeed in most or all of them? All of those
things are what I talk about when with the Hall
of Fame. So if you have a if you go
somewhere and it really falls apart, I mean, I think
that is he that's held against you for me, but

(43:47):
it may not be the whole story.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Good news for where Pete's going is it it's already
fallen apart.

Speaker 7 (43:52):
It's like, yeah, it could be better with him.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, one hundred percent they will percent nothing
else changing the culture. Well, here a little bit from
Peten's News Commerce by the way, one thirty day. Okay,
let's get to this the what is a dynasty in
the NFL? Every every league probably has different ones, and
leagues have changed over the years. We saw donas is
funny because you think back, Mike and you and I
can you know old enough remember you know, I mean

(44:15):
there were kind of you know, teams that would go
back to back and so called dynasties in baseball, like
in the seventies and eighties, you know, the A's and others.
Certainly you look at hockey, the Oilers and the Islanders
had you know, three four wins in a row and
the Stanley Cup and then little things like salary cap
and free agency started creeping. In the NFL had a
bunch of back to back champions. They've never had a

(44:35):
three peat, but they had teams that would win, you know,
four out of five or whatever would be. So in
the NFL in today's NFL, A has it changed what
a dynasty is? And b what is a dynasty?

Speaker 7 (44:46):
Well, I think you know one when you see one.
We know what the ones are when you when you
look backward. You know the seventies Steelers, you know the
eighties forty nine ers, you know the Patriots with Belichick, right,
we know those have to be on the list. So
that gives us some kind of a criteria. And when
I when I looked at it, my criteria, you know,
which is just mine, but I think it makes sense.

(45:08):
Is you want, you got to win championships. So to me,
it's winning three plus super Bowls over at least five years.
I think it's different to win, you know, like the
Broncos had the back to back years, right, or if
the Chiefs just had these three years, if they let's
say they win this year and they didn't have anything else.
Those are singular achievements, but they're not.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
To me.

Speaker 7 (45:25):
It's not a dynasty. It's not over a long enough
period of time. So to me, it's it's three or
more super Bowls over at least five years. And then
for me also then over however long that is. You know,
I think you gotta have the best record in the league.
I think you're you are really the team, so you have.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
To the best record.

Speaker 7 (45:45):
And then to me, you're reaching the championship game at
least half the time, and so when I did that,
really it was the you know, in the Super Bowl era,
it really was the Patriots from about two thousand and
twenty eighteen was the best, and then it was the
forty nine Ers from about eighty one to ninety four,
which was second best. And then it was Pittsburgh seventy

(46:08):
four to seventy nine, and then it was the Chiefs
twenty nineteen to twenty three. Well now had twenty four
to that, and the Chiefs kind of pull even with
the seventies Steelers. There's other teams that you could kind
of consider. I mean, I think the you know, the
then Redskins were really you know, won three Super Bowls
over a period of time, but it was a little

(46:29):
bit longer period of time. There were some ups and
downs where they didn't reach championship games as much. They
had some quarterback instability that you know, really is a
testament to Joe Gibbs doing great. But I don't think
they were quite as quite as dynastic by some of
those criteria, So I might have them in a little
bit of a different category. But I think those four
teams in the super Bowl area makes sense to me.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
As you mentioned Washington. Yeah, that those those teams from
eighty three to ninety two one three super Bowls over
a decade, but then they had some down years along
the way as well. And how thin, how razor thin
is that margin? And I'll bring up this team and
it's heartbreak city again for them this year. But from
nineteen ninety one through nineteen ninety four, a four year span,

(47:12):
the best team in the AFC was the Buffalo Bills,
without a question. But they could never win the Super Bowls.
We all know, and yet they were the best team
in that conference.

Speaker 7 (47:20):
Yeah, and maybe there was some you know, fatal flaw
with them, but a lot of this is you don't
know who you're going up against. It's kind of like,
you know, it's a lot easier to be the heavyweight
champion in boxing when you're not having a bunch of legends,
you know, also competing at the same time. And so
I think, you know, when you look at the at
the great teams, you know, the great John Maddens great

(47:42):
Raiders teams only won one Super Bowl because they're in
the AFC with Don Shula's Dolphins and Chuck Noeles Steelers.
So you know, that's what's happening right now to Joe
Burrow and especially to Josh Allen and somewhat to Lamar Jackson,
as there's this Patrick Mahomes Chiefs roadblock and too bad
you're you're here at the wrong time that happens.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
We'll see what happens to the super Bowl in thirteen
days time. But as you pointed out, I think and
I think this is it was just a it's kind
of a side note in your first in your first
couple of paragraphs, but boy, it's true.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
To me.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
What is most impressive for what the Chiefs have done
is that it's who they've beaten, and as you pointed out,
in consecutive years, it's Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow.
You can make an argument those are three of the
best top four quarterbacks in the NFL. Number and the
other fourth guy, however, want to rank them, is the
guy that beat him. Like that's there today.

Speaker 7 (48:32):
Hall of famers, they're they're they're likely Hall of famers
if they you know, I mean, shoot, Josh Allen, these
guys are just a few more years applying to maybe
be in the Hall of Fame. So uh, it's pretty amazing,
and they're you know, in the case of the Ravens
and the Bills, these are really good organizations. I mean,
these are teams and places that do it the right way,

(48:52):
that have had the same coach for a long time,
that are always in the mix.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
And they're in the mix. They've had good defenses, they've
had good offen senses that're run well, their gms know
what they're doing, and you still, you know, you still
can't get past Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
You wrote about Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts winning an
Elite Clip without any even thinking either as critical to
the Eagles success. How amazing is that the head coach
and the quarterback aren't what we're talking about with the Eagles.

Speaker 7 (49:20):
It is amazing. It is a team game. But I
think you always feel like on these these top teams
that are good every year that if you pulled out
one or both of those components and replaced them with
you know, league average, that everything would fall apart. And
for whatever reason, people don't feel that way about this team,

(49:41):
maybe unfairly about those two players, but it does feel
like they just have a great kind of whole operation.
And what's interesting about it is. You know, sometimes they
go through some turbulence. They're they're a place in contrast
with Dallas that is always pushing and almost sometimes pushing
too much. It gets chaotic there. Yeah, they'll go through

(50:04):
a year like last year where the staff's in turmoil
and guys are getting fired and it feels like the
front office is too involved. But it's because they're always pushing.
And so for them over these this is their third
super Bowl, I believe, in eight seasons with different quarterbacks,
different head coaches, you know, different star players at different positions.

(50:27):
You look at this team this year, Fletcher Cox retired,
you know, Jason Kelcey retired, They changed over both coordinators.
You know, that's some amazing things to do.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
It is.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I mean I also kind of look at that that
Philadelphia world too. Yeah, I mean there's pressure that's maybe
different than some of the other markets along the way.
But damn, Jalen Hurts made some throws yesterday, Like, he
made some plays yesterday and not just not just the
old you know push for the first down touchdown. He
made some throw as a critical fourth down throw on

(51:02):
the way as receiver stepped up as well. And I
think we've set up for a nice Super Bowl, which well,
we'll talk about next week. I'm sure you wrote about
Brian Schottenheimer.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Shot.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
He's one of those guys everyone liked when he was
here in Seattle and nice guy. And I remember when
he was here, maybe a couple of years into his
tenure here, there was a lot of talking chadder on
the league. A Brian Schttenheimer is going to be head
coach in this league? Got fired in Seattle and then
that chatter kind of disappeared. But here he is the
head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. What do you think
of that?

Speaker 7 (51:30):
Higher Well, I think he's obviously qualified. But you know,
it's disappointing for the fans because they want real change.
And when you when you get rid of Mike McCarthy
and just promote his assistant, that feels like more of
the same, where Jerry Jones is still going to kind
of be, you know, doing business as usual. So that's

(51:51):
probably unfair to Schottenheimer. I think that, you know, it
used to be that your experience in the league and
having experience was actually what made you qualified for the job.
Now the teams can't wait to hire people that have
had brief success, and you do get some upside with
that kind of of the unknown. It's almost like drafting

(52:12):
a quarterback. You know a lot of people would rather
take their chances on some guy in the first round
than have Kirk Cousins, right, or have somebody who's just good,
Dak Prescott. They're good, but you in your mind think
you know where their ceiling is. That can happen sometimes
with the veteran coaches that you feel like, well, we

(52:34):
know he's probably not going to be Sean McVay, right,
and so people get tired with that, but you can
still win and he may be Like if you look
at the next two years, think of all the excitement
in Chicago, Ben Jonson, they really did everything what a
fan would want. There's a very real chance of Dallas

(52:57):
will win more games the next two years, real chance.
And so you know, I think you have to separate
out the higher into two different categories. Is Schottenheimer qualified, yep?
Is Dallas maybe fooling themselves by kind of doing the
same thing over and over and never really pushing to

(53:22):
grow in terms of how they're set up, Yeah, they
probably are. And are they going to hear about the
fact that they're the longest drought from the NFC championship
game in the NFC. Yeah, they'll hear about it, that's fair.
But they do win. I mean they do. I pointed
out the last four coaches they hired had either the

(53:44):
best or among the best records of any of the
coaches hired that year, So very interested in seeing you know,
they hired Mike McCarthy. Oh not exciting, Well, he won
fifty eight percent of his games. The other coaches hired
in twenty twenty were Matt Rule, Jojo Ron Rivera, and
Kevin Stefanski. And Sfansky has had some success, but it's
a on a real downstreak right now. So you know,

(54:08):
I think their major dallas is against championships and they
haven't measured up to that. And this doesn't feel like
it changes anything in that regard, and so people are frustrated.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
The I want to get thought quickly because before I
let you go, Mike Sander joinings from the Athletic the
Athletic dot Com. You know, one of the things in
sports is you just you know, talking about real change. Well,
you know, real change often means, you know, at the
very very top, you know, we talk about that with
the baseball team in town all the time, Jerry Jones
running the Cowboys. You know, I think here in Seattle

(54:41):
there's a it's been established, you know, whether it was
Paul now, Jody and Burton, whoever's running the team, that
there's a certain set and standard of excellence and how
you run things with the Seahawks. Not every organization has that.
How does function are the Jags?

Speaker 7 (54:55):
I think they're a different kind of dysfunctional. I don't
think that they have an owner who is actively screwing
things up. I just don't think he knows how to
make decisions or run a team in the NFL. And
so to me, that's a difference between like Woody Johnson
of the Jets, who's super impulsive and does some crazy things.

(55:15):
I think the Jaguars seem pretty well intentioned, but never
really figure out the right mix of people to lead
their organization. And they've tried, you know, they tried with
Urban Meyer and Tom Coffin strong, different types of guys.
They've They've had nice guys, Gus Bradley, you know, Dave
called Well, those types of guys running the team, and
it just has never come together. So common denominator is

(55:36):
the owner, and now you go with a thirty nine
year old head coach. Maybe that's gonna be great, But
you're going you're probably we'll see they name their GM
yet I don't think they probably be a first timer.
You never know, so you know, are we to believe
that they're gonna They're probably gonna have some on the
job training here too as they go, so you know,

(55:58):
is it gonna change? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Have you have you talked to anybody around in the league,
any of your your guys are on the league. Any
thoughts on Clint Kubiak for Seattle?

Speaker 7 (56:05):
Yeah, the thoughts are positive on Kubiak. I feel like, uh,
you know, he can handle the job. I don't think
he's gonna need a bunch of oversight from the head coach.
And you know what it's supposed to look like. M
there's a system there and you know, you know how
he's going to want to play and it's going to
align with the head coach. So seems like a pretty

(56:25):
solid higher.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, there's I mean, and there's there's no question this time.
You know how much was Schneider, how much were McDonald involved.
I know what they were saying at the press conference.
But the reality is is when McDonald was hired, it
was kind of late in the process. John Schneider had
made no b ones about the fact that he was going
to have a say in the assistant coaches. Grub was here,
he knew him. I mean, it just it. It never
really felt truly like it was least I'll just say

(56:48):
one hundred percent Mike McDonald's guy. That this I'm guessing
is one hundred percent Mike McDonald's guy.

Speaker 7 (56:52):
It is now, Yeah, absolutely, and the vision aligns so
uh and he's done it before, so I think, yes,
at this I think I think it seems, you know,
like a solid, safe higher It doesn't seem like a
reach or anything, and you know it should be. It
should help resolve the vision of the offense for the
head coach.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Mike I said the dumbest thing I'm gonna say all
week today at twelve what time was it at twelve?

Speaker 4 (57:16):
What twelve twenty twenty three or no, twelve thirty seven,
twelve thirty seven forty I said.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
The thing that's going to help LeAnn Kubiak is that
there's no possible way the Seahawks offensive line can be worse.
So I mean, right, like they should have, they'll be
better just because of that. Now maybe they can be worse.
I don't know. But so that might be the dumbest
thing I said all week, and it happened on a Monday, Mike.
So if I if that's if that stands true, then
that's a good thing for me. We'll see, Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 7 (57:40):
I think it should be better too, and the way
you call the game can help that as well.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yes, one hundred percent. Check out Mike's work at The Athletic,
Theathletic dot com. The Pick six columns always on the
front page of the NFL site, usually on the main
site as well, like it was this morning. When you
go check out The Athletic the Athletic dot Com. A
great tour around the NFL. Good stuff in there, good
comparison of what the Line and the Jaguars did in
terms of building teams over the years. Kind of a
good little blueprint. So go check that out today. Michael,

(58:05):
talk to you next week, sir, Thank you, thank you.
That's Mike Sandal joining us as he does every Monday
during the football season, which means I'm thinking that means
we have two more weeks with Mike Sandal during football
season because we have next week leading into the super Bowl,
and then we had a week after after the super Bowl? Correct,
Am I right on?

Speaker 5 (58:20):
That we have this week is not leading into the
super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (58:25):
No, next week?

Speaker 5 (58:26):
I mean next week? Yes, Okay, sorry I had that
wrong with my bed. You got it.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
I'm sure it's a me fault though.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
No, no, no, no, I was thinking that today was
not this week.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
So that's on me. Some Monday.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Let's do this. Do we have a little peak Carroll.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
We have all of it.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Let's get some Pete Carroll news conference today in Vegas. Yes,
we'll hear from our former coach in Seattle next.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Now back to infness on your home for the NFL
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Speaker 2 (59:09):
Pete Carroll introduced as the new head coach of the
Las Vegas Raiders. Today, we'll hear a little bit of Pete.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
I listened to the whole thing that is Pete Carroll,
not listen to beat Carroll.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
It's been a while, yeah, Pete Carroll news conference for
a long time. Let's get to it here. Uh, part
of his opening statements, and you're gonna hear a voice
and that's Marshall Lynch in the background.

Speaker 8 (59:34):
I'm gonna follow my instincts uh, and and support with
John and to as we extend to ownership in a
way that, uh, we're gonna be proud of and we're
gonna be fired up about who we are and what
and what we stand for. We have a great following
in the Raider Nation and they've done amazing. Uh, They've
made an amazing statement globally and I'm so proud to

(59:56):
be part of that and recognizing that that we get
to represent our following and here in Las Vegas to
do it in this setting right here. But people can't
wait to come see us. They can't wait to see
what we're all about. Wherever our fans come from, we
do want to fill our stadium up with our guys.
I know that we have a good draw for people.
So matter town, there you go, there you go. That's
what I'm talking about. Hey, Mark settled down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Oh he knew who that was and it was not
Mark Davis. He knew who that was. That was our guy,
Marshawn that was sitting back there along the way. This
is interesting. I'm curious to hear what he says. He
was asked what he learned in his year away from football.

Speaker 8 (01:00:34):
Hey, I would be competing if I wasn't learning. You know,
that's the whole point. You got to keep on, stay curious,
and make sure that you're always on the next opportunity
to be a little bit better. I had an incredible year.
I got to watch jv football in high school, my
grandson playing quarterback. Then he played on the varsity team
as well. I watched all those games. My son was
coaching it the U up in Seattle. He's often sive

(01:00:56):
coordinator there. Got to watch all of their games, watched
everything I could watch from the league, watched my other
son and all of my guys coaching, Danny Quinn and
David Canalis and guys around the league that have been
with me. It's been a year full of just input
and so as the last time I had a year
that I stepped away from it, and it was extraordinarily

(01:01:17):
life changing for me. This year, I feel has been
the same. The extraordinary opportunity to see things uniquely. When
you're not coaching ball, you don't get that observation opportunity
you just can't because you're so immersed in what you're doing.
It was extremely valuable. So I can't wait for all
of the things that I see that I want to

(01:01:37):
do differently than what we've done in the past, and
I think their improvements. I wouldn't be thinking that. And
it's been an amazing journey to get to this moment
right here, and so I'm really fired up about taking
advantage of that year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
By the way, the fired Up account right now is
three through two sound bites, which I love. That's a
mass of pedism is fired up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
I should have acted actually caught on it. And also
John Spytech said it a couple of times too. They'll
be echoing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Then they'll talk like Pete, that's that's this is a
give and that's what's going to happen. I want to get.
It's an interesting thought. I wonder how many of us,
if we had a year away from what we do
for a living, how we would all benefit from that. Well, actually,
I've done it. I was just going to say, you
did it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
And it actually made me realized how much I loved it,
and it also gave me a broader perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I was gonna say. So for people to know just
started and had worked in the business is a long
time as a as a radio producer at ESPN back
in Bristol, and then came out here obviously worked for
Brand X that we don't discuss, but really was. The
reason that station got built up was because of what
you did over there, and you did a lot of
heavy lifting. But then you got out of it for

(01:02:50):
a while. You worked in TV over as an executive
producer over at Fox thirteen, and you know, I saw
you grinding away in a whole different world. And then
you were for the government for a year. So you're
out of this for what three years? Uh to and
change to and change yea, And it made you better,
you think as a radio.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Person, It absolutely did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I think. I think, yeah, I was just thinking the
same thing like I if I didn't do one or
the couple million things that I do for a long time,
how much if you really kind of studied it, watched it.
And that's that's why I loved hearing with Pete. The
perspective he probably got watching his grandson play JV football,
but the perspective watching all these guys around the league
is also interesting. And I mean I think he's gonna

(01:03:34):
I think he's gonna be successful and with the Raiders,
just give him a little bit of an opportunity, just
give him something to work with there, and he's going
to be He'll be successful. And and and by no
means I feel like I always have to say this.
I still support the move to move on from him.
I think that was the right decision the Seahawks made.
I really do. I think it was the right decision
they made a year ago, looking back on it, and

(01:03:55):
probably in the end might be the right decision, not
just for Pete, or not just for the Seahawks, but
also for Pete as well. I'm curious. So he's talking
about all his guys, whether it's his sons or whether
it's d Q or Dave Canalis, Ken Norton, all these guys.
His coaching treat these guy guys all throughout the league.
All those guys are under contract and they have jobs

(01:04:15):
right now. So he gives us his thoughts on putting
together his new staff.

Speaker 8 (01:04:21):
We're in the midst of getting started. I mean, like Johnathan,
we're just getting started at it. However, we have been
talking to some people and we're trying to put this
thing together. I'm really looking for people that have been
with me then understand the philosophy to some extent. I
want guys that have never been around me before, so
that they have to learn what we're all about and
we can watch the process of them learning who we're

(01:04:42):
all about and what we expect. And then I'm hoping
that we can maintain some of the terrific coaches that
are on the staff too, so we can have the
benefit of the insights that they bring in the continuity
that they can generate for So it's a combination of
people that we're looking for, but it's all going to
fall back into the same theme. Want ball people, guys
that love the game. And I mean this, that's obviously

(01:05:04):
we've if nothing else, We've hammered that home today, Johnny.
So that's you know, we want to make sure that
we do that. Also, it's important to find people that
can help us grow, you know, and and and challenge
us and and and those also. I know in my
history I need people to keep me on track because
you can tell them I get pretty juiced up and
I'm gonna get going. I need people to keep me balanced.

(01:05:24):
It's why Glenn has been so important over the years
to keep me rolling. But so it'll be a combination
to get that done if we do it well. And uh,
it's out there for us, and we've got a lot
of people that are really interested. So we've got to
do a great job of that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
John Spytech is the GM there and keeps for referencing John,
and do we not just keep I feel like.

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
I'm just the same.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I mean it's the same damn news conference. I know
it's the same news conference.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
That's what I said. He was authentic Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
He's Pete Man. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I want to get to a couple more of these.
How about continue to coach at his age?

Speaker 8 (01:06:03):
Yeah, Well, first off, I'm not real proud of wearing
this number seventy three on my back, you know, but
that's that's that's not what fires me up. But uh,
but it isn't It isn't about accomplishing things to say
you were worthy, you know, It's it's what you want
to do next accounts, you know, what's the next thing up?
And so uh, we're I laid low in during this

(01:06:26):
football season and I'm teaching a class at USC that's
been a thrill. I've not been one step away from
what we're doing and at any time and what we're
up up against here, I'm just so grateful that I've
had have been given the opportunity to do this again
and and and define it because to me, it's it's
the very next step that we get to take that

(01:06:46):
fires me up. It's the very next challenge. It's coming
back or it's overcoming, or it's it's it's celebrating the
success that you just had in making yourself come back
to basics and and continue to be uncommonly consistent. That
drives me, you know. So the stuff that you guys
have heard, you know about Pete and you know, being
having fun like you mentioned about throwing the ball around all.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
That, Yeah, that's part of it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:09):
That's part of it. But it's it's about the competing
and and proven that you that you have value and
you have worth and you can add to it. I
don't care how old you are, And for anybody out
there that's old and wants to know how you do it,
You freaking battle every day and you compete and you
find your way to get better. And everybody needs to
be coached up and that's what's been happening for me,
and I would like to extend that thought to anybody

(01:07:30):
that wants to hear it, because we can get better,
and we can do more things that are of value,
and we can love our families more and our people
around us. I mean all of that stuff. So obviously
I'm freaking jacked up. So that doesn't that shouldn't surprise you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
The age thing is just when when Pete's age is
ever brought up? And I mean how many times I've
done interviews with people or been on guests on shows
across the country and other places. You know, it's softy,
does it? I do it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Fan.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
I'm sure that a lot of us do those things across,
you know, with the other shows, like we have guys
on and it guts brought up, and I just always
I understand why it's brought up. I think for those
of us who were around him and covered him and
saw Pete, I never saw a difference between Pete Carroll
twenty ten and Pete Carroll in twenty twenty three, his
last year in Seattle. I never saw and never once

(01:08:19):
would I've thought the guy's seventy three, you know, like
and like, I don't think of myself I'm fifty nine.
I don't think of myself as fifty nine. I mean,
that's just a number. You feel like it's an old number.
How do you feel? How do you operate? How do
you go through life? Everyone's different. There are people that
are fifty five, that are fifty that they look like
they're eighty. There's others that are seventy three, like Pete,

(01:08:41):
and they look like they're sixty and they act like
they're forty. So anybody ever puts the any kind of
constraints on Pete Carroll for being old, quote unquote, you're
a fool. And I'm glad the Raiders didn't. I'm glad.
I'm glad they went out there. Let me get one more,
and I know we gotta get to a break just
when we get number four. And because I want to
hear he has to say about what he learned at
USC and with the Seahawks.

Speaker 8 (01:09:04):
Yeah, the lessons are really clear, is that we have
a philosophy and a way to do things with the
things we believe in, and the sooner we can get
to everybody understanding it and being on board with it,
the sooner we'll move ahead and move forward. I'm not
talking about just the football team. I'm talking about the
people that are in the organization. I'm talking about the
people that support us, Everybody that has an inkland that

(01:09:26):
they want to see what we're all about. We're teaching
and we're reaching out to them. I think we take
everybody to make us as good as we can possibly be.
And so it's that process that we'll go through that
we've done before that it's an exciting, challenging, you know,
kind of once of a lifetime opportunity again, you know,
and so we're going to take it on with the

(01:09:47):
great energy about it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
I can tell you for a fact, in the fifteen
years or fourteen years he was here that Pete was
in Seattle, I never once heard anybody in the organization
complain about Pete Carroll say something negative about him. And
I can tell you this that's not common, that's rare

(01:10:13):
in pro sports. And the thing was is he had
more juice than a normal coach because he was in
charge of the whole organization. Yeah, and so but I
never I was just thinking, as I'm listening to that,
I'm thinking, I've never heard once anybody like the only
negative thing I ever heard of from Pete Carroll regarding
how he ran things is he wanted to stay in
this one damn stupid hotel in LA because he was
buddies with the owner that nobody liked.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
And that was like the most minuscule thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Like That's why I was like, I think, what were
the negative things? And I'm thinking, like the staff people,
the guys that we hung out with on the road
and saw every day. It's like, yeah, nobody likes to
stay at this omni hotel, but it's Pete's place. He
knows a guy whatever. Like that's the only negative. Like,
and I say that somewhat tongue in cheek, But there's
other organizations recently that may have gotten rid of coaches

(01:10:58):
or others because the culture they created throughout the whole
organization wasn't good and it was time to make a change.
I'll leave it at that. So I think Pete and
who and what he is running an organization, and the
people and how he deals with them. It's is his
second to that. Okay, we got one more. We'll get
to you later on two o'clock, well before Jimmy Rodgers comes in.
Wazoos coach Jimmy Rodgers will be here at about two

(01:11:18):
fifteen to twenty today. We'll talk to him for a
couple of segments. First time we had a chance to
meet with the new Washington State head football coach. Looking
forward to that, Gokoogs. We come back Daily power Play,
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Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
Damn it. It almost feels.

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Kracking coming up with a win Mattine Affair Kids Day
on Saturday against the Pittsburgh Penguins Sid the Kid and
the Penguins. Before that, it was Buffalo last week. In between,
of course, there was a game with Washington we're not
going to talk about, but two of the last three
games of Cracking to played against, they've played against teams
they've had their best success against since coming to the NHL,

(01:12:51):
Pittsburgh and Buffalo. At the other end of the spectrum
is tonight's opponent, the Edmonton Oilers. Seattle's lost seventh straight
to the Oilers. They also have the worst record points
percentage wise versus the Oilers compared to any of the
other thirty one teams in the National Hockey League two
nine to one of all time and again losing seven straight.

(01:13:12):
It's a tall task for Shane Wright and his team tonight.

Speaker 9 (01:13:15):
Yeah, it's huge obviously. You know, you can't be turning
the puck over and given giving them, you know, easy opportunities,
any chances to score. And you know, with the four
group they have, they can really you know, take advantage
and make you pay and punish you. So you really
got to take care of the pocket. Really got to
make sure you're making hard, you know, solid plays and
you'll not make any sillin mistakes after.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
This home stand? Where do you build this team? No
doubt it's game the most heading into tonight.

Speaker 9 (01:13:39):
I think just may were just playing aggressive. We're playing
hard or making hard on the other team as well. Yeah,
I mean I just really like, you know how we're
playing right now, Like how are being aggressive and you know,
staying on a pucks in the ozone and you know,
creating a lot of you have it and turnovers and yeah,
it's been fun. It's been you know good obviously really
good home stand there and you know, trying.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
To keep it rolling. Shane, right, I don't know. I
just Benton asked a question. I'm lost after that because
it's just this. You're train captain Benton here, I'm on
the play by play call tonight. Did you know that? Yes,
dream come true? It used to be in the East
Courst Hockey League. Here, I am, By the way, do

(01:14:16):
you have to get the puck deep in behind defense tonight?
What do you think? I love, Ben, He's going to
be out of ten tonight. Up there and then Vonton Alberta,
Canada City and champions. Let's go I this is a
tough one tonight, man back to back too. They play
Anaheim here tomorrow on a cracking ticket Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
By the way, oh yeah, we'll have more tickets.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Hmmm. Stressful tonight. In the last seven meetings, Oilers averaging
four and a half goals a game to Seattle's two
goals a game. The power play for the Oilers pretty
good twenty percent. Well, it was the score first and

(01:15:01):
five of those seven games they got to get it going.
I this is the game you don't have to win,
and if you lose it, okay, you move on. Talked
about it before. They kind of do these three game increments.
If you've been looking at a four game. They just
took three or four on the homestand this week starts
off big week, four game week. I think if you
go three and one this week, you're feeling pretty good

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if you lose today, but when the next three Anaheim
San Jose Calgary is a massive game on Sunday, you
feel pretty good about your week. And then you get
a couple more before you head into the break for
the four Nations, So go steal one tonight Edmonton. Why
the hell not? Six point thirty drop of the puck,
six o'clock pre game. Andrews has the pregame for you
here on the radio side, we'll be on TV six
o'clock pre game as well on klong TV Prime Video

(01:15:45):
on the Cross the Kracking Hockey Network. So nothing going
on tonight, man, is no no football, Nope nothing. Let's
go watch the Hawk watch and nobody cares. Nobody cares.
Are they doing well this year? Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Okay but not but they kind of hit a little
bit of a bumpy patch. They're not as out of
the gates as they were.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
So check it out tonight on the radio, on TV
what have you, and then get ready for tomorrow's game
against Anaheim. We'll take a break. Don't forget Jimmy Rodgers,
new Washingtontate head football coach. You can joining us at
to twenty today right here ninety three point three KTERFM.

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had DQ and the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
Now give it sokowamme take it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
You know how you could have got some back to
run into my buddy Tony like I did, A longtime
listener and viewer, a big hockey fan, big KJR wisner.
My man Tony. I ran into when I was having
a quick little pint after the show, and Tony and
I were talking and by the way, Tony, thanks for
the Boddy's off. Appreciated, greatly appreciated, and we started talking
about wagering on golf. We were seventy five percent in

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to the tournament this past weekend. Big thanks to Harris
English for coming up with a win. Thank you very much.
So that ease the pain that I had, Jess, that
is the pain I had. Kevin Shockey somewhere is saying
never bet on golf. Screw you shocky. Anyway, we'll be
back up there for Super Bowl preview on the Friday

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that stuff will be all finalized by Thursday this week.
So if you want to head up the sports book
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We'll take a break. Come back two o'clock hour. I'm
gonna have one more sound by from Pete. I think
we have time talking about the decision making powers not
the same in the Raiders organization. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
I was disappointed.

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I think most people were dissip pointed. Should do a
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Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
New Washington State head football coach Jimmy Rodgers in studio
in fifteen minutes time. Looking forward to that conversation. Should
be fun. First chance to meet him, first chance to
have him on the radio here on KJR in Seattle.
I think we've had most of the coaches recently have

(01:20:44):
all been in here.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Well, yeah, because Mike came in a couple of times.
That was always a treat. Leech was in here. Uh
is the guy replaced him came in here. It's memorable
a lot of different ways. And then the other guy
was memorable. I'm looking forward to this guy. I'm looking

(01:21:07):
forward to coach. I'm don I'm on team Rogers right now. Yeah.
He seems a little more authentic than we've had since Mike.
Mike was authentic. Ain't nobody more authentic than Mike Leech.

Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
No, I don't think you could try to not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Be big job for Jimmy Rodgers, really big job. There's
some challenges ahead, even those of us that are die hard,
you know, lead Crimson and Gray at the same time,
which is weird. It's hard to do, but we both do.
But it's even those of us that are like, it's
some some heavy lifting to do. But I think I
like the fact I don't think he is a coach.

(01:21:39):
Would say this feels like this this good year to
come in as a new coach. This is kind of
a nothing burger year. We saw that last year. And
what I mean by that is you're not in the conference.
You're kind of playing this independent schedule. Yeah, you're in
the Mountain West, but you're not really in the Mountain
West and you're really not in the Mountain West because
you went and took along with Oregon. Say, you guys
took all the best teams from Mountain Way to start

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the new PAC twelve in two years time. So I
like it. Nice long runway, get yourself established, get your
get everything going over there in Pullman, have a solid year,
hopefully get back to a bowl game, and build this
thing back up for the new PAC twelve conference, which
will be fun. You know, college football changes by a
day on a daily basis. Hell, half the stuff we

(01:22:21):
might talk about today could be changed by tomorrow. That's
the way it is with college football. But we'll get
to that. With Jimmy Rodgers coming up at two fifteen,
I want to get a couple more soundbites in from
peek Care from his news conference. I can't get enough
of pee. I'm sorry, I just can't get enough of them.

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
It sounds exactly the same.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
I like it you said you mentioned earlier, especially because
John Spytech is the new GM there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Because referring to John.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
To John I'm like, what am I in an alternate university?

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Yeah, because that's it just sounds like he's referring to Schneider, right,
that's it does. And the wild it with Schneider and
Pe is like they finish each other's sentences. Yes, like
for almost from day one it was. It was really
remarkable watching them kind of do their thing. I want
to get to this because it's a kind of interesting thing,
you know, about decision making. Pete was ultimately in charge.

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Schneider was the GM, but Pete was in charge as
the head coach and president of football operations and all that.
He was asked today if he's gonna have that same
kind of decision making power as he did in Seattle.

Speaker 8 (01:23:15):
We're sharing everything, we're collaborating to the to the ant degree,
and we're going to we're gonna do this. We're going
to draw the best we possibly have out of each
other to make every decision we you know, we can
make as clear and as sound as possible, and we're
going to be able to use our guys that are
on top. The success stories of our ownership group is

(01:23:36):
just it's unmatchable, and so we're going to lean on
those guys to help us when we when we need them,
and they know they're part of this competition too, but
you're going to see us. We're partners in this and
that's the way we did it. Before you watch that,
if you look at what happened over the fourteen years,
you know, you wouldn't have known who was to call
him what. And that's the way I want it to be.
And I know Johnson on board with that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Because the other ghen you wouldn't have known. It's a
great dynamic. And maybe someday, when Schneider's retired or whatever,
they will get the really answers like who really Pete
had the final say? But how often did he overrule
John Schneider here? I think when it came to personnel
decisions and things like that, it was still kind of
Schneider's game. I really, I always kind of thought that,
you know, Pete had massive input and would have the

(01:24:20):
final say. And now there were things that there's no
doubt had Pete's fingerprints on them. Jamal Adams had Pete's
fingerprints all over them. Percy Harvin Pete's fingerprints all over them.
But I think by and large, you know, Schneider kind
of ran the football side, Pete coach, but who knows?
I get I want one more because I think this
is a really interesting We talked about this with Mike
Sando earlier. What does Pete need to do to get

(01:24:43):
in the Hall of Fame? Like that's kind of the
question now, like what does he need to do to
get there? And Pete Carroll was asked, after accomplishing pretty
much all of you all that you can, what intrigued
you about this particular challenge.

Speaker 8 (01:24:58):
It's never been about accomplishments. It's never never been about that.
It's just it's about the game and loving it and playing.
I really have realized again in this year, and when
you get a year to take a step away from it,
it's incredibly valuable. My last time I stepped away from
it was the year after New England. I stayed out
a year and the next thing happens. I went to

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USC and to me personally that the rest was history.
It hasn't been about trying to win when the championship
games so that I can put that banner of that
ring in my drawer. You know, it's not about that.
It's about competing, it's about being the best you can
possibly be with what you have to work with and
taking on the challenges of it and all of the

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that goes into making that happen for the players. You know,
it's getting the relationships with the players, that's building mentality
that you're everybody that comes to our program has a
unique quality that makes them them and I'm going to
try to figure out what that is and find a
way to bring that to the surface. And then doing so,
you give everybody the chance to be as good as
they can possibly be. That's that's what this is about

(01:26:00):
to me. And so it's it's it hasn't been about
just the rings, you know, It's been about much more
than that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
I don't know if you guys caught this. He said
something there that really jumped out at me. The last
time he did this took a year off or was
out of it for a year, was after New England
and it was the year before he got the job
at USC. How did that turn out? Like he reinvented himself.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
Yeah, he really did.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
He reinvented himself in a lot of different ways. And
you think about what he did at USC. USC was
kind of a shadow, a shell of its former self. Fifty.
You know, they were basically just kind of a five
hundred team. I think they were. They came off a
six was it his first year, they were six and six?
It might have been his first year. They were six

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and six, They lost a Utah a Bowl game, and
he but he just he flipped the script there at USC.
I think he's gonna do the same thing with the Raiders.
I hope so. And he mentioned, you know before that
about the collaboration and you know who's in charge not
having the same kind of juice. And he mentioned, you know,
we got somechampionship pedigrees here. He's mentioning, of course Tom Brady.
So strange bedfellos, that is.

Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
But it is, it's interesting. It's wild, to say the least.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
All Right, we'll take a break, come back, new head
coach Washing the State's in studio with Jimmy Rogers. Looking
forward to that coming up next.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the
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Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Glorious song, Jess, it's your favorite song to play?

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
Is about that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Yeah? Well, some of us in this state know the
worst do our fight song. Others that are maybe like
the color purple, they know like the first three lines,
but today is not a day for them. Today is
a day for us. Welcome back to intern us with you.
Uh man. I'm excited about this and been looking forward
to having this conversation for a while since we talked

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to our and the athletic director where there a McCoy
at Washington State right after Jimmy Rodgers was hired as
a new football coach at Washington State. So I will
just say this, welcome, How are you.

Speaker 10 (01:28:08):
I'm doing awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Thanks for having me. I appreciate you coming in doing
the tour cruising in Seattle. Is this first time been
to Seattle?

Speaker 10 (01:28:14):
First time in Seattle?

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Yeah, Guys from South Dakota probably don't get out here
too often.

Speaker 10 (01:28:18):
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
I'm one of them.

Speaker 10 (01:28:20):
Haven't been out here, but it's been awesome. So we
were here last night and getting our feet wet today.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
What what's the thing that has jumped out at you
since being hired about the school, the alums, the culture,
the fans, maybe the ex players you've talked about. I mean,
you come from a place that frankly was football crazy
and that's all you knew. But what is it about
this thing about Washington State that maybe has and the

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people or what have you that surprised you so far?

Speaker 10 (01:28:49):
Yeah, I would say just that the people are, you know,
really passionate about Washington State. I don't know if I've
ever left a conversation where it's not, well, it's a coup,
always a kook. So here in that type of passion
behind the school, the brand, what the football program was
and can still be. Those things were a big part

(01:29:11):
of why I wanted to take this job. Honestly, was
the passion behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
You were at South DA Coast State for a long time,
long time, long time. Was it hard to leave? Extremely?

Speaker 10 (01:29:20):
I mean, you build relationships that last a lifetime and
I'll still have a part of my heart there. Just
that's where I raised my kids and that's where I
played college ball. Got to coach my album Manter as
a head coach, and I think that's special. But taking
this one to me, you know, turning down many opportunities
elsewhere along my journey where most of my colleagues would

(01:29:42):
have said I was crazy to turn down, and I
just felt like the grass wasn't always greener, but I
felt like this one fit my family. Small community people
are die hard about not only just the university, but
being a part of a winner, and the football program
was a huge part of the reason why I wanted
to come.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
One of I like hearing that. I think kop fans
like hearing that as well. I mean, because we are
a little bit different. I mean I joke about our
great sports information director. I think he's associate athletic director.
You got a bigger title than that. Bill. Bill's team
has been there forever, like and guys like that. A
McCoy's been there forever. There's something about the culture that
it's either And I said this when I went there

(01:30:19):
back in the eighties. My daughter graduated from there a
few years ago. Pullman is a yes or no. It's
yes or no. You either go there and love it
and you're there and you finish your four, five, six,
seven years old while you're there, or as a coach
you stay there and you love it, or it's just
not for you. So when you got there, did you
know right away it's not just the football program, but

(01:30:40):
this is a place we can make home.

Speaker 10 (01:30:42):
Yeah, you know, like this looks a lot like the
Pullman looks like a lot like the western part of
the state of South Dakota, you know, where Mount Rushmore
is at the Hills Mountains, And me and my wife
would always joke when we'd have the opportunity to go
to what we call West River, which is the western
part of the state in South Dakota, we used to say, Man,

(01:31:03):
I just kind of wish Brooking, South Dakota was out here,
you know, just beautiful scenery, and yeah, that's what we've
experienced thus far in Pullman and getting my family out
here for a couple of days for the opening press conference,
they were like, yeah, this place is awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
This place is beautiful.

Speaker 10 (01:31:18):
So you know, it may not be everybody's cup of
tea as far as a small town in the community,
but that is something that I look for along this journey,
as far as finding a place that fit me in
my family, as far as raising our kids in a
smaller community where people are connected with individuals and life
isn't too fast and enjoy the relationships.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Jimmy Rodgers is here. He's a new head football coach
at Washington State University kind enough to be in with
us for a little bit today here in the studio.
You mentioned turning down some other opportunities. You were that name,
You were the guy, your name was out there because
of the success you had at South Dakota State. What
was it with Pullman that made you want to come
here as opposed to somewhere else. It's a big job
and you just mentioned the challenge is there. This is

(01:31:57):
not this is not the old PAC twelve, the new
PAC twelve coming. So it's some heavy lifting going along.
So what was it football wise? It brought you out here?

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:32:05):
I think it's a national brand to recruit to, you know,
having been in the Pack five or the you know,
the PAC twelve and Power five level.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
The resources are there.

Speaker 10 (01:32:16):
The administration knows what that looks like and knows what
having a competitive advantage looks like. Bringing people to a
small town where the people are bought into the program.
Though every player that we've brought on campus thus far
just on the officials. They can feel the community. And
I think when you recruit to people in substance, that's

(01:32:37):
more than just flash and hype of a lot of
facilities or big city or things that really don't make
an impact. When you can recruit to the people, and
you get the right people in the right seats, I
think you can have success. And I felt that right
away here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Everyone brings up the same thing over and over again.
I'm sure you'll ask you answered this question all the
time when you're on the West Side. But resource wise,
you come from I'm an FCS level school, but you
go to a division ie A school or FBS whatever
we call these these days, and all of that. What
has Ann told you about resources and giving you what
you need to compete? Not as much even this year,

(01:33:12):
but next year, especially when the new PAC twelve comes
into play. What has she told you? What have you
been assured of as the new head football coach?

Speaker 10 (01:33:20):
You know, for me, this is more resources than I've
ever had. I haven't came in and had a ton
of demands of I need this or I need that.
This is more than what I'm used to and my
last job, I mean, I did a lot of things,
and so did our coaching staff. We held a lot
of different hats and coming to Washington State, I feel
like there's three to four people that that's what they specialize,
and so I haven't came in and complained about really

(01:33:43):
anything thus far, I'm appreciative of the help that's there,
the support that's there, and with the right people in
the right seat, you can have success. So I'm not
necessarily looking for more and more and more. We need
to figure out what this team looks like this spring
and develop a winning culture on the field before I
start asking about what we need.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Jimmy, is that like the one of the biggest things
when you come from the FCS level is And I
just we were just talking to the break. I mean,
my son was playing small college football Whitworth up in Spokane,
and like the head coach does like eighteen things, you know,
and FCS isn't that South dakost State. It's a big program,
a national brand at that level. But it is different, right,
Like you know, like like you come to Wazoo and

(01:34:22):
you've got three or four people you've got to support
staff that's probably tenfold from what you're used to. Is
is that kind of maybe one of the not only
the best things, but also one of the biggest things
that you kind of go like you probably want to
put your hands on things that other people are doing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
Right.

Speaker 10 (01:34:34):
Yeah, Honestly, I started looking at the amount of people
and I was like I'm a little leary of giving
some things to people I've.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Are you a good delegator or not?

Speaker 10 (01:34:44):
I am, but I like to touch everything and make
sure that everything's in place before I just pass it along.
So part of that is getting the staff on the
same page and making sure things are organized, that they
feel comfortable in what I.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Expect moving forward.

Speaker 10 (01:34:58):
And uh, the staff that I brought with me, which
is a large majority of really everybody but one. They
all know what I expect and how to do things.
But it's also getting the other key support pieces on
the same page with that group. And so, yeah, I've
been blessed with this opportunity and I don't expect to
waste any time and trying to create something special here

(01:35:21):
at Washington State.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Tell me about your coach, we'll talk with the coordinators.
Jesse Bobb at your defensive coordinator, tell us about him.

Speaker 10 (01:35:27):
Yeah, Jesse's been with me since I coached Jesse. So
my first job back was actually Jesse's first year coming
in as a incoming freshman, and we were laughing about
it because some of these freshmen that were committed to
us in this class that I've already signed with Washington State.
Many here are here for the early and release. I mean,

(01:35:49):
Jesse knows what that feels like to be recruited by
one person. And then when he showed up, I was
his coach, so yeah, getting to know him. He actually
played as a true freshman, and I him along his
journey and he went on to become a high school
coach in Nebraska, and then knowing that he wanted to
get back into college, he was a graduate assistant for

(01:36:09):
me learn kind of the structure of the defense of
what we were moving to when I became the defensive
coordinator at South Dakota State. And then he was blessed
with the opportunity to come out here and coach under
Jake Dickert as a graduate assistant on the defense side
of the ball. And then shortly after that, after spending
two years here, I hired him back as the safety's coach.

(01:36:34):
Why I was the linebackers and defensive coordinator, and then Jesse,
after one year of being with me in that and
just learning how it is evolved, I made him the
defensive coordinator when I became head coach, and we had
one of the best defenses, if not the best defense
in FCS history.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
With him leading the charge.

Speaker 10 (01:36:49):
So I feel really confident in what he's how he's
developed over his years, and we see the game very
similar and bouncing ideas off of one another, off of
a s RU sure that we both believe in has
been really seamless for the both of us.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Is it beneficial to all the fact that you know,
I don't want to say only a graduate assistant because
we talked about guys wear a lot of hats. Those
guys wear like eighteen hats and get not a lot
out of it, but and they work really, really hard
ato coaching staff. So having him here, having him have
a little experience with Dickard and how much does that help.

Speaker 10 (01:37:21):
He was one of the first he came with me.
It was me and Ron Pavock that came up when
we first got out here. There was only three of us.
I was one of the three obviously, but having a
guy that knew the players because he knows some of
these players, you know, he coached some of these guys
on scout team five years ago. So then knowing the area,

(01:37:42):
knowing how things work here at Washington State has been
huge for me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
The uh, your what kind of defense do you like?
Like like like, like, that's a big broad question, I know,
but just in general terms, you said you and Jesse
share the same vision.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
What is that?

Speaker 10 (01:37:56):
I mean, it's stems out of a four man front
and we'll put the right back having on the field
that based off situation of whether it's run pass and
the type of body that we need in the game
at the certain personnel. But it is it is a
four to three some people call it a four to
two five at the end of the day, it's putting
the right person in the right situation to have success
based off the offensive personnel in which they line up in.

(01:38:16):
But multiple, multiple coverage is that we run. We don't
just everybody always says, well, what do you run?

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
Like?

Speaker 10 (01:38:24):
We run a little bit of everything, and it's creating
a balance. What I would say the number one thing
that we do is we change up the looks of
what it looks like prior to the snap. And so
not just the scheme is multiple. The front is multiple,
but the coverage and what it looks like and presents
itself is always ever changing. So playing on the attack,

(01:38:44):
playing physical, if you can get the guys and the pieces,
the right pieces on the field at the right time,
and you allow them to play as fast as possible.
It really still comes down to keeping leverage on the
ball and out physically people and playing relentless and cause
and turnovers.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Danny is a friend Freud. Danny freyn is your offensive
coordinating to the quarterbacks coach. We've thought long been some
sort of version of an air raid with Mike, and
before that it was what Dennis and Mike ran pass
heavy offenses a lot of times. What's what's Danny gonna run? Yeah,
I think you have to look.

Speaker 10 (01:39:19):
Every single year at the skill set in what you
have in giving the best year best players of the ball.
Don't make it overly complicated, but we're going to run
the football and we'll we'll you know, create one on
one opportunities that take advantage of teams weakness on the
back end.

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (01:39:33):
The one thing that I've always admired or just about
facing Danny is that it's it's very unpredictable, and they
do a really good job of developing the skill set
and maximizing the opportunities of what a defense presents to
them and not just you know, ramming their head against
the wall and hoping that they have success. He's did

(01:39:56):
an unbelievable job at North Dakota, where I had faced
him for so for years, and their their offense maybe
although lack talent or not have this much talent as
maybe the rest of the league, always produce points, and
he was the one offensive coordinator that always scored more
points on us than any other any other program. So

(01:40:19):
part of the reason why how I how I came
about him is is just that, uh Zach Luhan, who
was our offensive coordinator a couple of years ago, left
to become the offensive coordinator at Northwestern in Illinois. There,
and so I was looking for a quarterbacks coach and
a guy that could help us on the back end
as far as passing, uh you know, creating the passing attack.

(01:40:40):
And so when I had the opportunity to get Danny
to Brooking South Dakota was a no brainer. And then
meeting his family, it was it was it was the
right fit. And so bringing him here was a no brainer.
And I'm excited to see what he does and how
he evolves this offense. But yeah, I won't just be
the ray will run the football, and I believe in
that part of the part of the reason why if
you look across college football, there is a brand that

(01:41:03):
wins the national championship. And although people think that's crazy,
I won't and I won't you know, I won't give
into that. Could it be done, Surely it can. I
know it won't be done if you don't believe it
can be done. So we have a long road ahead
of us before we start getting ourselves into that. But yeah,
you got to be able to run the ball, and
you got to win on defense, and so when you

(01:41:24):
do that, everything else opens up. After that, the passing
game will open up. And defensively, you know, creating pressure
on the quarterback opens up if you can run the
ball and stop the run.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Jimmy Rodgers joining us New Watch the state head football coach.
That's an interesting thing with the air raid and how
it I always thought that, and we've had Wazoo fans. Shockingly,
fans have had these discussions amongst themselves, probably over a
few pops in a tailgate or something like that, and wing,
why do we run the air raid when it's snowing
and raining and all these types of things. And I
always wondered if it was when Mike came in Leach,

(01:41:54):
I mean, the program. I'm sure you've done your history
lessons and the program was in a downtrodden place and
how can you flip the script quick? Well, there's a
lot It feels like there's a lot more skill guys
out there, you know. The seven on seven world now
has changed everything. I just where we live out in
Maple Valley, that a massive seven on seven tournament this
week and I droll by the Saturday Sunday it's like
there's like a thousand kids on four fields and it's
just like that's what people are doing. And I feel

(01:42:15):
like receivers you can find them, you know, all over
the place. Always felt like it's harder to find the
big boys, the guys that can block up front. Is
that still the case? And how how challenging is that
in today's football where there's such an emphasis on seven
on seven to find the guys because you want every
coach wants to run the football to well, Mike Leech exception.
Outside of coach Leach, everyone's run the football. They always

(01:42:37):
say they want to run the football, but you can't
do unless you have the big boys. Is it getting
harder to find some of those dudes?

Speaker 10 (01:42:41):
I think it's harder to Uh. Yes, yes, the answer.
It is harder to find the athletic ones that can
not only be six or five or two eighty and
still move right. But you also have to take ones
that are under develop and develop them. You're not just
going to find the finished product right out of high school.

(01:43:01):
A lot of the guys that are built to be,
you know, a powerful o alignment that sometimes they're tapped
out when they get to college. It is taking the
leaner body and putting the mass on them and you know,
consistently working with them as far as movement efficiency and
allowing them to grow into their own frame. We've taken
a lot of underdeveloped players at my last place, and

(01:43:23):
you know, several of them are playing right now starting
in the NFL, but they weren't the ones that were
highly regarded. I think it's analyzing them at the high
school level or even in the in the transfer portal
and saying, well, these guys fit our system as far
as what we do, and then you've got to be
able to have a great a line coach and develop
the technique and the and the tactics for them to

(01:43:44):
have success inside.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Of the offense.

Speaker 10 (01:43:47):
Part of the air rate a little bit is you
go a lot of times, you go up tempo, you
go fast, and it's more you know, throwing the ball
across the yard as far as like almost like being
a point guard and basketball just dishing the ball off.
And I'm not knocking it. I just believe in running
the ball because if you don't take any of the
clock off, you know, you don't take any clock off

(01:44:09):
because you go three incompletions and out to just put
your defense constantly in a tough situation. And then with that,
you have to be able to win late in this season.
And if you can't throw the ball because the elements
and that's all you had, you're kind of screwed. So
I do believe in a balance. It's not just that
we're going to run the ball a million times a game,
but you have to have a balance to take it.
You know, take control of an offense otherwise, or take

(01:44:33):
control of the defense otherwise you become one dimensional on
that end, and then the game ends up quick and
your defense takes a million snaps.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Do we have time for one more segment? Pill? Yes,
all right, we'll take a quick break. Come back with
Jimmy Rodgers, check their text line seats. Do any questions,
But I got a couple just about your guys. You
said you've been meeting with the players, the koops that
are there already. I want to get some thoughts on
what you have to work with this year. We'll do that,
Jimmy Rodgers coming up next.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
How back to Inverness on your home for the NFL
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Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
You passed down.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Hanging out today, Jimmy Rodgers, New Watching State have football
coach with US high school recruitings underway, that's always a
hard thing, right. You had guys would commit. You had
guys committed South Dakota State, You have guys that committed
to Wazoo. How many guys? What was the retention rate
for players that had committed to Washington State? Stack number?

Speaker 10 (01:45:35):
But I do know that we have had eight early
enrollies that are freshmen, and I think one of those
kids was committed to US at South Dakota State that
flipped an early enrolled already with US here at Washington State.
But yeah, I believe we lost six. The rest of
them are still in the signing class planning to still
come here. We had them up last weekend and just
getting to know them has been really great, just their parents.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
And kind of I know, it's what's the message you
give them?

Speaker 10 (01:46:01):
Give us a shot, honestly, give us an opportunity just
to you know, that was the initial and then just
I feel like everybody that was up this past weekend,
their families could feel like the energy and the positivity
amongst our staff, and they felt like they've made the
right decision my sticking with us.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
So different world out here. You come from the Midwest,
you're coming out here now. You do have I'm sure
a handful of connections of guys that recruited out here
a little bit. You know, we've seen various coaches, and
I'll just use both schools in our state, Washington or
Washington State coaches that come in and like immediately get
a connection with the high school programs. Others still want

(01:46:39):
to go elsewhere. How important is this state to you
in terms of recruiting. How important are the local high
school coaches and the local high school kids here?

Speaker 10 (01:46:48):
Yeah, I think it's extremely important to recruit home base.
I just came from a place where that was number
one and watching that kind of develop and blossom and
have success with people that want to stay close to
home is pivotal. You know, when you're talking about the
world of transfer portal, you got to find the right fit,
and hopefully the right fit. There's enough people that live
here and enough good players that you can bring them

(01:47:09):
into the building and develop relationships with them. And you know,
we're we're living in a world of you know, who
pays me the most right now? And I think I
just came from a place where we've had a million
guys come through there and have an opportunity to go
elsewhere and they stuck with us.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Why.

Speaker 10 (01:47:27):
Yeah, just the relationships, I think. I think it's something
that we do a really good job at And I
don't think it's just like getting to know somebody and
then when they play for you stopping.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
We have it.

Speaker 10 (01:47:37):
We've had these you know, the players are at our
house constantly. They became a part of our family. Our
kids grew up with these guys and getting to know them,
and they feel the sense of family. Our whole staff,
I mean, we got we have like a village of
little kids on our team. I got too, and our
whole staff there's probably twenty four kids under nine years old.

(01:47:59):
So when you can have the youth around them, and
our little kids can grow up and idolize these guys
and get to know them and have them over for
dinner and develop true relationships, not just something that's based
off of what they do for me from a football standpoint.
And I think it matters.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
No, I know it matters.

Speaker 10 (01:48:16):
I've watched it matter. So people feel like the investment
is there, and when you have great coaches, they feel
like everything that they need is in front of them
and they don't have to rush off for what is
you know, a transactional situation, maybe somewhere else that offers
them a little bit more money because they feel like
they're getting everything that they need. As far as a

(01:48:37):
person and as a human as a student athlete, I
do believe that's doable, and that's how you separate yourself
by showing that you care and investing them at a
deeper level.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
I mean, I'm daring to dream right now, going back
in the day of like, hey, you can get a
guy and develop them over two or three years, god forbid,
even redshirt them sometimes and let them get bigger and stronger,
and so I think that I'm with you. I think
that could probably still exist along the way. You got
to find the right ones. I was just gonna ask,
you got to find But that's kind of always been
how Wazu's done it right, Like, like, you know this

(01:49:10):
program well enough, you've been along and long enough, you've
talked to people like Jack and I'm sure Alex and
other guys around them, you know, the next quarterbacks that
are all hanging around like you. That's how they do
it right. You find that young guy that wants to
just develop or be a Koug Right, but you still
have nil to deal with and you still have to
do that out there. How different is that for you? Like,
how much of a learning curve is that for you
now as a head coach coming in here compared to
where it was in South Dakota State. Yeah, I would

(01:49:32):
say that.

Speaker 10 (01:49:33):
And the NIL is different to a different level.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
We dealt with it.

Speaker 10 (01:49:38):
You know, a lot of our guys turned down six
figure deals. The quarterback just turned down a seven figure
deal to stick with this at South Dakota State.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
So you got it this year, though, didn't he?

Speaker 10 (01:49:48):
He got it this year? He got it this year Honestly,
he was set to go to the NFL and he
had some stuff with his shoulder, so he's decided to
go elsewhere and go to Iowa. But ye, yeah, I
mean those things were evolved there as well. But I
do think that there's still if you find the kids
that want a certain fit. You can find the kids.

(01:50:10):
You have to do a good job in the vetting
process to say is this kid going to be a
guy that's going to leave us? And I'm not saying
that it's still not worth the investment to take a
dynamic player or a player that has uber talent to
help you right away, but it is trying to find
ones that you can do something with long term, because
success just doesn't happen overnight. No matter how talented you are.

(01:50:31):
You still have to come in and learn the scheme
and learn the technique and be a great team mate
in order to be a part of a culture that's sustainable,
that wants to win long term and not just flash
of the pan eight to nine wins one year and
then have an off year. It is about a level
of consistency, and I think that starts with finding players
that you can bring into your program and you don't

(01:50:55):
have to rely on the transfer portal?

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Will we right now?

Speaker 10 (01:50:57):
Yes, until we can create some sustainability in the program.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
Quarterback Staves v X House. We had a chance to
watch him in the Bowl game, and every Cougar fan
was like, Wow, like this guy's got a little something there.
And remember in the fall he compete with John Matier
and we all kind of sometimes you think that's lip service.
We thought maybe Dicker was like, it's just they're competing.
Then you watched him play and you probably could believe
that there was a real competition. What have you seen?
You've watched his tape, you watched the game, what have

(01:51:23):
you seen from zeb I.

Speaker 10 (01:51:24):
Don't think it's just the tape though. Getting to know him,
he's a really mature person. He's got real confident It's
like true confidence. Some people act like they're confident and
they're really not confident, and you can see through some
of those things. He's a great leader. And every player
that I talked to along the way, whether they were
guys that were in the portal thinking about leaving and
came back or guys that are on the current team,
they've all mentioned Zevy as far as his leadership skills

(01:51:47):
and the fact of them believing in him, and that
was pretty evident on the in the wide receiver crew.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
The you mentioned title in championship. Kind of a different
weird year this year with the the in between, the
almost a gap year and then the new PAC twelve starts. Yeah,
with some I mean that's that's going to be a
good good, good football, great basketball conference, good football conference
as well. When you look at that coming ahead what

(01:52:14):
you mentioned that you're opening press conference too, what gives
you the thought that you can win it and compete
for championships at the highest levels.

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:52:21):
I think once you get the right kids in the
in the in the door, and you develop a system
that you believe in, you're just you know, maybe elevating
in the type of talent that you can get in
Washington State. It's a national brand in which you can
recruit to. I think it was just seen in Devon
Ellis and the type of caliber player that wants to
come play here. You know, there wasn't a long standing

(01:52:41):
relationship with Devin and he's one of the best wide
receivers in the country that we just signed and what
was a one week span of trying to rush get
to know him and find out what was important to him,
and he turned down a lot of places that he
had opportunity to play. Some of those are in conference.
So if you can win those battles and recruiting, I
don't know why we can't think that we can win
the battles on the field. You know, if you're getting

(01:53:03):
the quote unquote some of the better players and beating
them and recruiting, then it takes the scheme and the
coaching to take you over the top. And I feel
confident in the coaching. I feel confident in the schemes,
just getting them in here and thrusting, you know, thrusting
them with our families and making it feel like a
family environment in order to grow here to you know,
to sustain some culture, to have some wins.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
I got about a minute here before Stevens kills me.
See all times is good. They'll be fine, they'll be
a look for the sale time story. How about that
little teas for them sales times writing a story in
Jimmy Rogers tomorrow. Huh, there's a tease from that's a
little kiss I gave to them. All right, Uh, what
would you do? What would you tell Washington State fans,
what do you want them to know? There's we're on
the west side of the state. This is where a

(01:53:45):
good chunk of the alums live. What's your message to
Washington State football fans.

Speaker 10 (01:53:50):
Yeah, I think it's about we're going to play a
brand of football that it's fast, physical and tough, and
we're going to be competitive this upcoming year. I don't
expect to wait to rebuild. I've heard at multiple times,
and I've never been a part of a rebuild. I've
been a part of winners, and I expect to win
in Washington State.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
GOI Cookes, go cooks. I love it all right. That
is a new head football coach at Washington State, Jimmy Rodgers.
That's it for us.

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