Furness Show 1-31: Danny O'Neil, Rylee Pay, Steve Palazzolo.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How are we today? What's going on? Happy Friday to
one and all, Happy Friday, Happy Friday. Pick up the
Athletic this morning? Oh oh, Fox executives. So it's weird.
That's weird.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thing happens.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Nothing happens at Fox.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
State.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
We were they owned and operated by Fox when you
were there. Yes, yeah, me too, Yeah yeah, alrighty we
move on. So this is a joke, right, this Polanco thing.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Man?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, I said earlier, I told Greg this. I said,
I'm gonna I'm trying to go into it with like
an open mind and not in a mocking mood, like
I just want to say, hey, okay, really like this
was like, this is like the you know, you couldn't
get the date, you know, like you're like, like she

(00:57):
ditched you, you ditched her, and then all of a sudden,
here it is proms here and you're both just desperate, right,
and so you just go hook back up. That's what
this is.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Jess actually had a really good comparison.

Speaker 6 (01:09):
Is this.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, hold on, It was actually a tweet.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
That I on that know you were you were You
didn't look at it.

Speaker 7 (01:22):
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I was watching a hockey game, horrible basketball game in
a hockey game. Hockey game, bad basketball. That's what I
was watching last night about you people.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Hold on?

Speaker 6 (01:33):
It was this is from Twitter and so have to
give at the jage page, jge page page. Very very
g A G E P A G with Nathan and definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
A very fun follow on Twitter.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Okay, the Mariners off season in a nutshell was playing
a game of White Elephant over the holidays, only to
wind up with the gift they brought to the party.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
And if you've ever played White Elephi as well, it's
not something you want to keep. No, no, it really is,
And it's not a gift you want to keep normally.
That's the whole that's the whole point of it. Yeah,
that's a good one. So yeah, it's it's actually more
it's that's probably a better comparison than the late night
hookup or the prom date that you have to have.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
It was I cackled out loud.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
Mike was cooking dinner in the kitchen and he was
like what, I'm like, Yeah, I don't think you'd get it.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I don't want so, really like, I guess that's my
only that's my only response. I want your response to today.
Four nine four or five one my my, my one
word response is really with a question mark. That's all.
I just move on because maybe it'll work out great.

(02:46):
I I I never want to be the person that
because now that's a beautiful thing about sports. God, he
could come here and just you know, he could come
back and be who he expected to be. Maybe unlike
maybe he does have the arm to get it from
third to first. There seems to be some thought that
he doesn't. But we'll see. Uh yeah, so maybe it works.

(03:10):
But four nine tell them what Dickson, get get on it? Actually,
I want to get your if we can hear some
voices today to get the talkbacks, go on to go
the iHeartRadio app, little red microphone fire Away.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
The earlier you do it, the more time I have
to edit. So it feels free to unleash.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
So Mariner fans, your reaction to the return of hoorge Plonko,
who you really thoroughly enjoyed watching play second base last year,
which is why they're moving into third. Okay, so why
does that make sense?

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Uh, it's an easier position to play, and if he's bad,
it won't be as effected, Like it won't affect the
team as much. This is I think, and I'm not
saying it's the right decision, but this is why bad
infielders go from middle and field to corner infield. Correct, right?
So third first base? Yeah, and you know he's had
experience there and he was not good defensively. So the

(04:01):
thought is if he can at least be fine defensively
and something happens with the bat, then he'll provide some
sort of value. Okay, you said your first response was
really yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay, I say my first response was really question mark.
And and again, let me just keep this open as
a blank slate. I who am I to judge and
say it's an absolutely great signing. Who am I to
judge and say it's an awful signing. I just I
think because of who it is, the name that is
coming here, I think is listen, this is not something

(04:35):
that as a man, I don't think you're going to
be able to sell the Mariner fans. It's going to
be prove it thing like prove it, hey, planco go,
prove that you are actually still a good baseball player
and can hit a little bit. A really good point.
What do you have like thirteen doubles all season? I
mean it just it's good, right? And was he not healthy? Okay,
sure that might be part of it, but guess what,

(04:56):
lots of people aren't healthy. I don't know who in
sport is healthy ever. But that was my reaction.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
What was yours Mine was, man, they really don't care
about pr do they? That was my first response. The
funny thing is I actually like and for those of
you who have followed my opinions on the Mariners, I
was pretty bullish on Polonka when they first traded for
him last year, right. I thought it was gonna work
out pretty well. I liked it better than the Colton
Wong sign in two years ago. And it didn't. And

(05:25):
I was like happily admitting, like it didn't work. But
this is one of those situations where it's either him
or a combination of Ryan Bliss and Dylan Moore. And
I know Greg Bell is going to tell you that
Ryan Bless should be playing every day and that's second base,
and it probably still will happen some combination of those
two with Polonko at third. So I guess it's him

(05:46):
or Austin Shenton at third base, and Polanko's a better
option than those guys, Yeah, yours.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
I immediately ran to Twitter for the jokes. That was
my immediate reaction. I was like, what are they saying?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
We talked a couple of weeks ago about his last week.
I think it was like, what can this team do
to kind of get you back on board?

Speaker 8 (06:05):
Right?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
And and you know, outside of winning a world series
that's the obvious one, or get in the world series
r like, what can they do to get you back
on board?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
This one didn't get me on board, but it didn't
get me off board.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, I just think it You're sitting here, you're watching
the train go by, and it's not gonna it just doesn't.
I think it would. I think it'll turn and we'll see.
We'll see what the texts say. We'll see what if
we get talkbacks on the iHeartRadio app red microphone fire away,
We'll see what those look like.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
I think a lot of people are not gonna like it. Well,
and you know what, they don't deserve to, rightfully, so right.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Right, rightfully so.

Speaker 9 (06:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I think there's there's probably a lot of people just like, okay, whatever,
and or laughing about it, making jokes about it, et cetera. Yeah, it.
You know, I kind of look at and it's just
it's such an I know it's not the number that's
the be all to end all of but my god,
he was twelve on the team in doubles last season.
This is not like a home run, like just in terms.
I'm just looking at Dylan Moore had to only three

(07:01):
and I don't know. I guess there's a couple of
things here. Why did no other team sign him would
be the first thing I'd ask, But I.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Was the Houston was really in on him and the
Marrigers kind of swiped out from under their feet.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Was so the seven million dollars made a difference.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
No, it's because I think they were waiting on if
they're trying to get Bregman. Sure, so they were trying
to get Bregman and Ambaranco all right, I don't know,
that's just the rumor. That was what Ken Rosenthal tweeted
out when they first when they first announced it was, Oh,
Houston really wanted him, but Marion Seattle got him.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay, here, let me give you the we got get
to a break as Daniel Nils can join us in
a second. I would just say the positive, the plus
the pros here are. Yes, he's a better option than
what you had. Yeah, Okay, the negative is he wasn't
good enough to exercise the option on and you didn't
want to keep. I know the money is different, but

(07:50):
let's be honest. That's you didn't expect to bring him back, right,
You did not expect to bring him back, And here
we are on at the end of January and you
brought him back. Why because you're desperate. Because you're desperate,
and you know what, you probably didn't get a little
bit more money than he would have got to Houston,
you know. Yeah, nobody can hit here, right, you can
hit in Houston. So why do you come here familiar

(08:13):
with your organs? Maybe like Stan Wilson maybe likes Edgar maybe,
you know, And those two things I would put in
there too, I would put those in. I would put
those in the positive part of it, like maybe this
is a good sign guy, a guy like that wants
to wants to have Edgar tutoring him. That could be
part of it, right, that could be a big part
of it, you know, And you know, maybe it's Stan.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Wilson may turn it around the last month or so.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Right, So maybe it's an Edgar thing. And if that's
the case, the man, we're on board and we're feeling
good about it.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, I like it again.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I'm gonna go back to I'm gonna go back. I'm
gonna go back to my other word before.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Really, really, I think apropriate reson.

Speaker 7 (08:47):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
It also is very Mariner, like we love bringing guys back.
It's like, what is there nobody available from ninety five?
I was just where where's Buner? Can't we bring him
back and put him? Plug him in at third?

Speaker 5 (09:01):
I mean, we already have a two of the coaches.
Why not Let's do it, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Danny O'Neil joins us.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Coming up there.

Speaker 8 (09:10):
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(09:32):
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Speaker 1 (09:41):
Once to get a reminder before we have Danny Popla
hoop on here a second Jory Pollock, who appears to
be a Seattle Mariner again, what are your thoughts? Mine
was only one word?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Really? What was it? Okay?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Uh four? Tell them we text on when it's time.
It's Telly time. I'll also get some talkbacks as well.
Go to the iHeartRadio app little red microphone. When you
get to that app, click on it ninety three to
three kjar. Go to the make sure you go to
the right one right because I just does want to
be hunting around on nine point fifty and the Patriot
or the Liberty or whatever they would call them, that
thing on ten ninety and all that stuff. Go to
a ninety three to three kjar dot com red microphone.

(10:20):
Speak for thirty seconds or last your reaction, Hell, it
might just be one word. Your reaction to Jorge Polanco
Part two, Hi, Danie O'Neil, how are you?

Speaker 7 (10:31):
I'm good?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
How are you in good? Or hate Polanco's back? Jorgete Polocko.
There's see, you were asking for a big signing in
this offseason. Huh you were asking for it? That there
wait a second, wasn't that the big signing last year
and then they let them go. They'd be Danny, what
the hell's going on?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, they got him back for it's not quite half price,
but they got him back on the discount double check.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
You know what, good point, great point, great point. You
know what, Actually a shrewd cut him and bring him
back on a reduced salary. That's corporate That feels like
corporate radio is what that feels like. Did John Stanton
take a class? Not just radio, corporate media. That sounds like, hey,
we're gonna lay everybody off, bring you back though, don't worry.

(11:19):
Oh wait, you're now a contract employee. It's less money
and no benefits. Welcome back. Yeah, that's corporate America right now,
especially corporate media.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, it's generally I believe that the chant goes same work,
less pay.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
Yes it is.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Oh god, that's exactly what we did. Say, Like, hey,
maybe he comes back, maybe going to third base and
year two here and maybe I brought up maybe Edgar's
a factor in him wanting to come back. You know,
maybe that helps a little bit.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Edgar.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I'm not going to discount the I'm not gonna discount
double check the Edgar factor. But maybe that's it. Maybe
there's a lot of things. So who am I to
say it's not going to work, but it certainly is.
Is just going to get more fans kind of mocking
than getting excited.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I think, yeah, And that's a very fair reaction.

Speaker 7 (12:13):
I don't I don't hate the move in and of itself.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yes, I'm I.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Think they're better. They're better with Jorge Polanco at seven
million dollars and whatever the seven hundred and fifty thousand
option payment that that he will at the very least get.

Speaker 7 (12:30):
I think they're better with him with all of that.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
However, when you talk about signing a second baseman and
then having him play third base because you're not quite
sure if his legs are ready for that, it does
give off a little bit of the host Vidro vibes
when Oh it was too fat to play second base
and had him beads and I was like, wait a minute,

(12:56):
wait a minute, that's that's bout it.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
DH is supposed to be supposed to be for a
second basement who can't play second base anymore. You're supposed
to get a guy that can.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
They can, they can bop there, and the mariners there
the corner infield should provide some power and we'll see
how that works out. It's it's certainly in line with
everything else that we've seen this offseason, which is there
isn't a whole lot of ammunition for the front office
to do much to improve this lineup.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
If they're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
That, they're gonna need to trade one of their starting pitchers,
which they don't want to do, or they're gonna try
and hamm an egg it together on the cheap, which
is certainly kind of what it feels like.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
The other thing they could do is we talked about
this a little bit yesterday. You know, their farm systems
got you know, it's the best one according to you know, Manny,
but Keith Lodde the whole thing in the athletic yesterday,
very well thought of, and it's, you know, kind of
a guy that's well respected or number one. I mean, hell,
I don't think it matters if you're one, two or three,
you're you're right there. We talked to our guy Chris
Crawford yesterday. They've they literally have four middle infielders that

(13:58):
are all in the top forty in Major League Baseball. Prospects.
All those guys would fetch something. And you know, if
you're unwilling to part with those guys or unwilling to
move a starting pitcher, then yeah, you're left with Jorge Polanco,
Danny Yes.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
And I will say it's good to have a good
farm system. Giving a choice y system, I'll take the
good farms. However, I think that's gonna be my line today.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
However, however, that is not the goal.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
The goal is not to have the best farm system.
The goal is to win a World Series. And I
do get a little skittish.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
When, hey, we don't want to do anything to jeopardize
the farm. We don't want to undercut, we don't we
don't want to to give away these guys right now
before they have a chance to really blossom.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
Okay, but when they get up and are playing, are.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
You still going to be able to afford all those
start starting pitchers, Because because I don't think you are.

Speaker 7 (14:56):
Now.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
If you if you tell me that, hey, Logan Gilbert
and George Kirby and and all of these guys are
going to be here in perpetuity, we don't have any
intention of letting them go.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
But it.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Is selling a good farm system and young talent to
your fan base is one of the least risky propositions
because everybody loves potential and there's nothing that's been proved wrong.

Speaker 7 (15:19):
At some point you do have to have.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Either a mechanism or an idea about how you're going
to get over the hump. And sometimes that's trading some
of those farm pieces to be able to get guys
that will put you over the top right now. And
I'm not saying it's the wrong move not to do
that at this point, but it is the wrong move
if you're never willing to do it, because at some

(15:43):
point you do want to take those prospects and turn
them into something that is going to put your big
league club over the hump.

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(16:13):
looked through here and and I'm looking at you know,
at the story of the week for the Marriers before
Polonco and it was and that's a big one, trust me, don't.
Let's not get any but you you kind of had
it in the dayg apostrophe breaking news. Team mobile can
be hard to hit in, is that right?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, Yeah, it was a it was a really long
assessment and it was one of the best explanations I've heard.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
But yeah, that's that's correct.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
That, Yes, it's it's difficult to hit there, and it's
not necessarily because of the batter's eye, which.

Speaker 7 (16:47):
Has become the topic du jour.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
I believe that over the last two years, I've heard
that a lot where hey, Baltimore's kind of got the
same funky angle on their batter's eye, and it doesn't
bother people as much.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
It's it's not the roof. It's the players like to
complain about the roof, but it's not the roof.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
It might have something to do with the angle of
the sun at certain.

Speaker 7 (17:08):
Parts of the day.

Speaker 10 (17:09):
And my response when I read that is, can't we
get a big blue tarp out then, like, if it's
just a matter of the sun, can't isn't that that's
that's one of our natural resources in the Pacific Northwest
is we should have no.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
Shortage of big blue tarps.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
So maybe we could just go hang some of those
off a lookout landing to maybe get in the way
of the of the of the angle of the sun.
But if we did that, that would hurt our pitching, right,
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
I was confused.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I was confused.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
I was that a loss?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Well, the wee can listen, if if we run short
of the big blue tarps here in Seattle, all we
have to do is just check in three hours south,
because the blue tarp capital of the world would be Portland, Oregon,
and anything from when you cross the bridge of the
Columbia and you are in Oregon and go along eye five. Listen,

(17:58):
you need a blue tarp, there's one every three feet.
Just go grab one of those, bring them out here,
and that will help Polanco in others if that's the issue.
Along the way. I'm going to read some numbers to you,
Danny though, and you helped me here. Uh three point
fifty three point thirty one, three oh six, three oh two,
uh to ninety two to eighty six, two sixty seven,

(18:22):
two sixty five, two sixty and two fifty nine those
were the batting averages for the two thousand and one
Mariners guys that played basically one hundred and ten games
or more.

Speaker 7 (18:36):
Uh huh?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
What changed it from oh one? Besides I know the games,
but pitchers are better. Blah blah blah. Okay, let's drop
it down just a wee bit. Let's take ten percent
off of those. What changed with the ballpark in the
last twenty one years twenty four years?

Speaker 7 (18:52):
Nothing. We brought the fences in a little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yes, that's what I thought. We brought the fences and
did we not?

Speaker 7 (18:57):
Yes, yes, we've done that.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
There's there's a believing that there was more chemistry, not
team chemistry, but actual literal chemistry involved.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
In Okay, okay, okay, but nobody.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Nobody, nobody would ever do that here.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Well, I will say this, ola root in each row,
if they were on the juice, they weren't doing a
very good job of it. They they they if those
if those two guys were on the juice, and then
it was a different kind of juice, because I don't.
I mean, now, there are some guys I'm looking at
on this list, and I'll dance with you there, buddy,
I'll dance with you there on some of those guys.

(19:35):
I don't think if Camy was on it again, I
did he ever lift a weight like It's not like, yeah,
I don't know if the juice was there, But I mean,
I know, aren't you caught between all?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Now?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Could it be the temperature? There's a marine layer here, Danny,
there's a marine layer.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
People talk about it. It's the same for everybody though,
And here here would.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Be my my argument. If there is really an issu
you with that is unique to Tea Mobile Park, and
it is, it can't be that it's just impossible to
hit here because you did have a team that scored
a ton more runs back in the past, It's not

(20:17):
always had that effect. And maybe you get to build
your team a little bit differently here because of that.
And I do think that we've seen Seattle be willing
to do that. That this front office, with the investment
in starting pitching and the fact that they each year
kind of put together a bullpen and effective bullpen without

(20:39):
spending a ton of money.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
I think that is an example.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Of leaning into the strength. But let's make sure that
invest in contact heres. The game has gone.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
Toward more strikeouts and more home runs.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
And I would say that you look at those two
thousand and one teams, you did have some huge home
runs totals, but Edgar Martinez, the strength of his hitting.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
Was always powered to the gaps. The number of doubles
that he hit. Build a more.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Aggressive team in terms of not long ball, but gap
to gap type hitting. I think there's an opportunity there,
but it you get the benefit that comes with pitching
in that park, it's just unfortunate that you also have
to pay the cost. And I'm sure it does mess

(21:30):
up the hitters' minds when they play half their games
in a stadium where a home run in other parks
isn't a home run there.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I think, Yeah, there's got to be a happy medium
because you build it around pitching, that's the strength of
your team. You still play half your games on the
road in all those things. So you know, the ballpark
it is what it is. And that's the unique thing
about baseball, right Every ballpark is different. They're all different dimensions,
they're all different carries. And you know, I I think

(22:01):
and you guys and people know that. We also know
baseball players are messed up in the mind, and a
lot of it's mental, and probably there is a mental
block there comes into play. I mean, all those things
can happen. Danie O'Neil joining us, I want to get
to this before we go. We had the Pete Carroll
news conference in Vegas. Did it bring back memories?

Speaker 7 (22:20):
It gets it?

Speaker 11 (22:20):
Did?

Speaker 7 (22:21):
I got downright wistful about it. He is so funny
to hear go because he talks a lot.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
I mean, I've spent way too much of my life
transcribing Pete Carroll answers, so I can tell you that
he is a man in constant search of the end
of a sentence. He tends to complete seventy five percent
of one, then hop to another one. And as he's talking,
you think you understand exactly what he's saying, and you're
getting pumped up, and then you go back and transcribe it.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
You're like, I'm not sure if there's much concrete demonstable.
I'm not sure how much of this is fact. There's
just a lot of fe here.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
But it is such a fun ride, and I don't
I don't know if he's going to be able to
pull it off, but I know listening to him, I
definitely got deja vu of what it felt.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
Like in twenty ten, and at that time I was
a lot more skeptical about whether everyone.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Was you were not alone, all of us were. All
of us were like, this isn't come on, man, raw
Rod and an NFL Like musically, remember the first couple
of OTAs and minikin like what the hell? Like it's
a rock concert out here.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
They got a DJ like it's this is never gonna work,
Like this is never gonna work, and here we are
it works work quite well.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Actually, yeah, And I I don't know. Look when they
when they let him go, When Seattle made that decision,
I wouldn't I wouldn't have done it, but I understand
their rationale. I understand the rationale, which was that, hey,
we've kind of been stuck in the same spot.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
We haven't really been able to budge off of this,
and we.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Could continue going ten and seven, nine and eight forever
and occasionally get into the playoffs, but that's not the point.
So we're gonna try something different. The one thing about
Pete coming back is that it does create sort of
an apples to apples comparison, because if he does get
it turned around in Las Vegas that is just going

(24:24):
to shine a spotlight and Seattle kind.

Speaker 7 (24:26):
Of doesn't get over the hump.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
If Las Vegas gets there sooner, I mean, I guess
now there's an opportunity to lose the breakup for Seattle,
Like you have to live in definitely fear that you
will be the one that ends up more miserable and
Las Vegas ends up happy with your ex.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Well, then you just go sign Polanco. It's Danny O'Neil
joining us here as he does every week. Brought to
you by Northwest Handling Systems. Yeah, I think the thing
for me that's exciting for Pete is that, you know,
I think it has a real solid chance if he
just has a couple three decent years, gets to the
playoffs once or twice, it solidifies any questions about him

(25:06):
going to the Hall of Fame, you know, based on
his wins, getting a championship, already turning a team around again.
It's one of the things I think, one of the
things that I would you know, we point to Mike
Hombrim when he hopefully gets gets the call this Thursday,
this coming Thursday. One of the things we point to
Mike about Mike Danny, is that you know, Mike went
to a super Bowl with two different teams. He also,

(25:27):
you know, and also was a quarterback guru with a
team that had two guys that went to the Hall
of Fame. The thing with Pete that I always thought
was really impressive, because you don't see this Belichick, I'm
looking at you specifically looking at you, is like a
guy that coached and got success, went to a super
Bowl and then went back and then got back to
the playoffs with a different quarterback, actually three different quarterbacks

(25:50):
Pete Carroll had going to the playoffs, Matt the first year,
and then obviously Russin and Gino. That's hard to do, Like,
that's really hard to do. It doesn't happen all that often.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
No, doesn't.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
And you speak to the success that Mike had taking
two different franchises to the super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
That's really it's really, really difficult.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
And if Pete is able to give Pete's Hall of
Fame is such an interesting case because it is the
Pro Football Hall of Fame, so technically you're not supposed
to consider.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
The college stuff.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
But if you line up the most impactful coaches of
the past twenty five years.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
He had.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
He and Nick Saban had the two best runs of
any college coaches in that time, and Pete did it
before Saban did, and then he went to the NFL,
and in much the same way Jimmy Johnson did, kind
of launched himself to.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
The top of that industry as well.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
I don't want to say he needs this to get
into the Hall of Fame because maybe the shadow from
college hangs over there, but if he does end up
rebuilding the Raiders, if he does get them, it would
certainly should put him in that exact same category as
Mike Holmgren, which is a guy that absolutely needs to
be in.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
He's three wins away is Pete Carroll from being top
fifteen all time in wins in NFL history. So if
he gets four wins this season, he goes to one
seventy four, he ties Mike McCarthy at number thirteen, and
it ties Mike McCarthy at number thirteen all the time.
McCarthy's not going to coach this season, And I mean
he's what is he He's sixteen wins away, seventeen wins

(27:28):
away from passing Chuck Knox for eleventh all time. I mean,
he has a real good chance if he stays there
for three years and has any success at all, to
be a top ten guy all time and wins in
the NFL with, by the way, a super Bowl championship.
And I believe that everyone that has that type of
resume in terms of wins is already in the Everyone's

(27:49):
got a super Bowl championship, and his top ten in
terms of wins is already in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I think that does.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
It certainly should, and it's it's gonna be fun to watch.
I'm I'm very, very interested to see what happened, and
hearing him talk, I guess I had thought that maybe
the Raiders was the one.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
Job he could get that Chicago passed on him, and
so he ended up taking the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
I found myself wondering, because Pete was so front and
center in that press conference, how much he he whether
or not he was Tom Brady and Mark Davis's priority
in that coaching search, because he sure he sure sounded
like somebody who that's the gig that he really wanted
and felt that they'd committed to him.

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Speaker 1 (28:59):
Man I could use that I was covering him. That
would have been perfect.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
I'll tell you that when he says that somebody needs
to be put there, they need to take care of him,
that doesn't mean it's going to be like a thoroughbred
who needs no no, they just surgery.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
And if he says, hey, he's got a chance.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
To play this week, that means that player actually has
a chance to play.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
Two weeks from now.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yes, because Peter is so relentlessly optimistic that, yeah, you
can't take those I.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Do believe anytime you asked in the injury and he said, well,
it's a legit, and that means you're probably not only
is your season done, your career might be done as well.
Right if it's legit. He's got a legit knee injury.
It's a legit and the injury a lot of football.
Well but if you have a but if you have
a legit injury, you're never going to play again. Yeah,
at least in this at least in this decade. So

(29:47):
uh yeah, I I did laugh. When we were traveling
back in the day, I'd sit there and I'd like
I infected. Greg Bell and I were talking about it once.
We're sitting at Sea Tack and I'm going through the
computer listening to it so we can do our TV story,
and he goes, what are you doing? Just I'm listening
to Pete picking sound bites for the Pete story, you know,
for the story we're gonna do. We'll get to La
or wherever. He's like, he didn't say anything yesterday. I go, well,

(30:08):
there's like twelve minutes here, there must be something there.
And then you listen to twelve You listen to twelve
minutes and there were twelve minutes of words but not
one sound bite, which means, in your world, not one quote.
But that was Pete.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
That was Pete.

Speaker 9 (30:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I just loved it.

Speaker 12 (30:21):
It's just my favorite is when you would have a guy,
generally on the offensive line who was completely over his skis, overmatched,
is getting brutalized to the point where you're wondering if
Aaron Donald's going to shove his poor interior a lignement
up into the overhead bin of the charter flight home.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
And afterwards you'd ask Pete about it. It'd be like,
he got through it.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
He got through it. Oh god, that's another one. Yeah,
he got through it. That means we're looking for somebody
on the waiver wire right now.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
He was He did not have to leave the game
because of homicide. It was close, touching go there for a.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Little bit, but he got through it. That's good. We
can play this game all day. All right, my friend,
Thank you. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Sounds great.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Take care.

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Speaker 1 (31:32):
You know, I'm always I don't even know what the
criteria is anymore for Hall of Fame, right, I think
for in just talking about coaches. We talked about this
a lot last week when Pete first went back and
found out he's going back to Vegas, you know, And
now obviously we're waiting for Mike Holmgren hopefully to get
the call on Thursday. Cross our fingers and hope that happens.
You know, Pete's actually has nine more wins than Mike

(31:55):
Holmgren does in his career. Interesting, they've they've coached Mike
co seventeen years. Pete's now going in the next it
will be his nineteenth year coaching with one hundred and
seventy wins. Mike has won sixty one. They both have
a Super Bowl, and they both have three conference championships
as well. So yeah, it's actually Mike has two, right,

(32:17):
Mike has two now he's got three and Pete's got two. Yes,
and they both have a Super Bowl win. And you
look up there, Marty Schottenheimer's eighth all time and wins
in the National Football League. He has two hundred wins
all time he's number eight, but he never won. Marty
schot Atheimer never won a conference championship and never got
to the super Bowl, so something, and he's not in, right,

(32:42):
He's not in.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
He's the in.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Dan Reeves one hundred and ninety wins, which is tenth
all time. Dan Reeves does not have a super Bowl
and does not have a conference championship, and he's tenth
all time. Now you start looking at winning percentage. Shotenheimer's
six thirteen all time. Marty had some bad years in there.
He's oh, he's all right, Actually, Marty six thirteen. And

(33:04):
who is like, oh, Dan Rings is five thirty five,
Mike's five ninety two, Pete is five eighty six. So
he started looking like some of those numbers, like who
what What is a Hall of Famer? What is a
Hall of champer? I was going to do it, Sockey
what he is a Hall of Famer? I think you
can tell by the eye test. Mike Holmgrean is a
Hall of Famer. Yes, Pete Carroll is a Hall of Famer.

(33:25):
We're so biased bias, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Absolutely everyone outside this market.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Is Sean Payton a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
I say no, he's not he's he's got the same
number of wins as Pete and he's got a super
Bowl and one cut and just the one conference championship.
Is Sean Payton a Hall of Famer? Do you think
the six eighteen winning percentage all time?

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah? Pretty good? Good.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
Do you think the bounty gate has any sort of
knock against him?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I think he I think here's what helps him. He
got to the playoffs this season with bow Knicks.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
And he's turning that franchise around in that would help
him a lot because my thought would have always been
you got there because of Drew Brees.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Totally.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, one hundred percent because of And I kind of
sound like a bag on Belichick. I get that, But
the reality with Belichick is he won with Brady and
nobody else, right, Like that's that's a reality. Like those
six super Bowl wins that Belichick has, that's hard. But
he's a Hall of Famer first ballot, no doubt about it.
I just think when you're looking at the all time

(34:26):
great coaches in the history of the game, yeah, Belichick
with the six Super Bowls jumps off the page. But yeah,
so yeah, Sean Payton is he you know, is he
a Hall of Famer? Is John Harbaugh a Hall of Famer?
He's twelve to fifteenth all time and wins Super Bowl
and a conference championship obviously because he got to the
super Bowl, but that's it hasn't been back has won
it since. I sing, I think he is. John Harbor, Yeah,

(34:51):
I think it.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
Well, so you're mentioning a lot of guys that still
have time in the right to So I look at Pete,
I look at Harbor, I look at Peyton, all in
the same division.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, and as John John you said John.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
Okay, I thought you mentioned Okay, anyway, just the two
of them who are still coaching.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
John Harby I think is yes.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, I think he is.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
Like eye test wise, I just I don't it doesn't,
it doesn't come. It doesn't Hall of Fame for me.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, it does because of who what quarterback he won with?

Speaker 7 (35:19):
Too.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
That's a good point, Jeff Flaca, Right, Joe wins seems.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Like it's should get a little bit of all I
mean you.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
Mentioned and Brady it's like, well he kind of a
not the exact opposite, but he didn't have a quarterback that.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
He got it.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I mean most of these guys win with great quarterbacks.
So let's be honest. It's just the way it is.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
A guy named a great quarterback could be great because
of the coach you have to and.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I think a lot of times that is the case.

Speaker 9 (35:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Brady proved otherwise though he went and won in Tampa.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Was like, okay, well Brady got a couple offensive coordinators
head coaching jobs over the years, made those guys a
ton of money. Yeah, sure, right, So all right, we'll
take a break, come back. Uh is this right? We
still do this?

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it would be Mike Curdle. No longer is it Mike

(38:58):
Curdle instead. Welcome to the Pacific Northwest. Riley Pay, Hi, Riley,
how are you.

Speaker 13 (39:05):
I'm good, Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I'm excited to have you on. We're excited to have
you join us out here in the Pacific Northwest. And
for those we mentioned this the other day, we do
a little thing called something Good on our show. I
thought it was pretty cool. You are the first lead
announcer play by play announcer in Triple A. Right, is
that correct?

Speaker 13 (39:26):
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
How did Riley Pay get to Tacoma.

Speaker 14 (39:33):
It's been a journey and it's been the super exciting.
I'm so thrilled to have this opportunity. It's definitely not
something that I take lightly but just quickly.

Speaker 13 (39:43):
Yeah, kind of my journey.

Speaker 14 (39:44):
I grew up in Las Vegas, went to UNLV and
graduated from there. Interned quite a bit during my collegiate
years in the Northwoods League up in Wisconsin and then
the Cape Cod Baseball League as well. Was an assistant
with the UNLV athletics department for some time, and then
it was super fortunate to get a job with the

(40:05):
Boston Red Sox double a affiliate up in Portland, Maine,
right as I was graduating school and did play by
playing media relations up there.

Speaker 13 (40:12):
So very excited.

Speaker 14 (40:15):
To be back on the West coast now as well.
Loved my time on the East coast. But I've heard
so many great things about this system, this organization and
Tacoma as well as I'm pumped to be out here
and super excited to get started.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Well, I'm gonna I'm going to say something I I
and I asked about the journey and how you got
here for a reason, and I took I'm someone that
took a leap of faith many decades ago to do
minor league hockey and and did that grind for a
couple of different teams and did the same thing pr

(40:51):
and you know, heck, when I was in Tri Cities,
I was doing play by play on TV radio, I
did travel, I did schedule the buses, meals, hotel, the
whole nine yards and metia relations and all that stuff.
And so I have great respect for someone like you
that did the same you you worked your way up
to get to this point, and so congratulations because good

(41:12):
like that's that's that's a grind. Like I'm gonna ask
you how much money were you making some of those
summer wood bat leagues and other stuff you were working
for before you got to Double A.

Speaker 14 (41:23):
Yeah, as you were spot on in that, like you
definitely do it because you just absolutely love it. So
it's more so as stipend when you're when you're in
the summer leagues and out there, but it has totally
prepared me for the minor leagues, especially the North Woods League,
and that's just a league that is very much structured.

Speaker 13 (41:43):
Like the miners.

Speaker 14 (41:44):
You're playing every day, the bus rides as well for
those players and bouncing around different cities and and living
that lifestyle of just the continuous schedule, and and same
with the Cape League, just the format of that and
especially as well and Double A with the Red Sox.
You just gain such a respect for the players in

(42:06):
the way that they live their lives when when you're
living it as well, you're on the early bus rides
for ten plus hours sometimes to different cities, traveling on
your Monday and then playing for six days at a time.

Speaker 13 (42:20):
So you just gain such a respect for the way
that they.

Speaker 14 (42:23):
Live, and it just makes it all that much more
especially you know all of what goes into kind of
making a baseball team run, pulling the tarf, helping with concessions, helping.

Speaker 13 (42:35):
Laundry loops or really just whatever the team needs.

Speaker 14 (42:38):
It's just all hands on deck, and I think it
makes it that much more special.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Ten plus hours, that's that's child's play.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Riley.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
We back in the dub Man. We go almost twenty
two hours to get to Brandon, Manitola. But that's you
check back with me when you do a twenty two
hour and I'm just kidding. That's it's It's like I, honestly,
I live. I had some of my best times on
the bus, honestly like I And I've got guys that
are that are well retired from playing hockey now, a
lot of guys playing the NHU. I've some of my

(43:07):
close friends, guys that I still keep in touch with.
We're on the bus. I'm assuming you have the same thing.
Like there's something about a bus ride in the minors
that just kind of like again, it's a yes, or
no thing, either you say this is what I want
to do or not. Do you have some pretty good
memories in that regard, Oh, one hundred percent.

Speaker 15 (43:24):
I think you learned so much about the personalities as well.

Speaker 14 (43:28):
On the bus.

Speaker 15 (43:29):
They're a lot of fun playing different games for however
long it is the movies that I'm seeing different stuff
along the way, and you just learn so much about
everybody when you're kind of living that lifestyle, and it
really is is so fun when you think about it,
and like, like you said, like ten fifty.

Speaker 13 (43:47):
Hours whatever it is.

Speaker 14 (43:49):
It's definitely aggressive sometimes, but it is just the best
memories too, and definitely what you look.

Speaker 13 (43:55):
Back on as as some of the fun times. For sure.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Well, Riley joining us, she's a new radio broadcaster for
the Tacoma Ray Years, and we congratulate her on that gig,
and I can't wait for her to hear her this
summer when she's at Chenie's Dam and all across the
Triple A League as we get ready for a new
baseball season, and I just think, again, I think it's
awesome you worked your way up and that's cool to
see two hundred fifty people applied for this job, which
is says something about your abilities to call a game too.

(44:22):
We'll get to that a second, and we go way back, like,
when did you decide that this is something you wanted
to do. You went to UNLV, but when did you say, Hey,
you know what, I want to get into this world
of either play by play sports broadcasting, and maybe even
specifically baseball, because that's a whole different animal than a
lot of other ones, right, Yeah.

Speaker 13 (44:39):
So it's actually a little bit of an unconventional path.

Speaker 14 (44:41):
I grew up dancing dance through college as well, and
that was always what I did, so never played softball
or anything like that. But I just always loved baseball.
It was something that was so important for my family.
It was something that I loved doing with my grandpa
and just kind of picking his brain at a score
book that he would keep during games, and it just

(45:02):
was part of all the fun of my summers, kind
of checking off different MLB stadiums and just enjoying that.
So I just felt the magic of baseball, I think
more than anything really early on. I think it's such
a special game with so much rich tradition, and I
just love being at a baseball field.

Speaker 13 (45:21):
So it was kind of what hooked me in that.

Speaker 14 (45:22):
Way going into school, I originally wanted to be a
sports agent, and the kind of pivoted and knew that
I always loved public speaking. So it started in the
broadcast program shortly after that, and originally in some of
my internships. Was there as a sideline reporter and had
some mentors.

Speaker 13 (45:42):
One day turned to me and asked me if I
was willing to do the play by play.

Speaker 14 (45:46):
And I hadn't done enough until that point, but I'll
never say no to an opportunity, even if it scared
me just a little bit. So I said yes and
jumped right in, and actually, after the first time I
did it, I it is kind of frustrated. I was like,
I know I can do this so much better. I
love this challenge and I want to get better at this.

(46:06):
And that was really what is just the challenge of
jumping into the unknown and being responsible for being those
eyes for people that aren't at the field and painting
the picture and doing the game justice. I think it's
such a unique position, and play by a play specifically
where you have the ability to really bring the game
to life and kind of be those eyes for people.

(46:29):
So that was what kind of drew me in, And
what continues to just excite me about this position is
getting to kind of have that responsibility and just always
getting better and knowing that over a season of one
hundred and plus games, you're definitely going to continue to
get better, and just the challenge of it is so exciting.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Riley Paid, new voice of the comr in years, joining
us here on the phone. Listen. I think the cool
thing is is this in a lot of doors and
kicked down over the years. And I do cracking hockey
on TV studio host and intermissions, and I have my
lead analyst, our lead analyst, Alison Luken. I think she's
the first true lead analyst for any teams broadcasts in

(47:15):
the league. And I mean I sit next to her.
I learned something every day and she still has to
deal with some of the nonsense on social media with
people it's like, you know, you're a female, what do
you know? And I justid we all do? Yeah? I'd
put her. I'd put her hockey knowledge up against anybody
that I've ever met. And then some my friend, my
old co host here at Les Woodward does a bunch
of work on Pack twelve network in ESPN now and

(47:36):
started as an analyst, now is doing play by play.
So there's probably been people that have told you along
the way, Riley, that this isn't for you because of
your gender. How challenging was that and how did you
deal with that?

Speaker 7 (47:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (47:50):
I think for me, I've been super fortunate that.

Speaker 14 (47:54):
A lot of my supporters come from my male colleagues,
and that was actually how it even happened. And we
really just believe in your baseball eyes and we think
that you should trust them too. You see the game
well and and we believe in you to do this.
So that was something that was huge for me, just
having those people that supported me, managers as well, and

(48:14):
just so many people in this baseball world within the
team that have been so kind and have never treated
me different. So I definitely don't don't take that lightly
and know that I'm super fortunate for that. But like
you said, it is a different path and and something
that is a.

Speaker 13 (48:32):
Little bit less seen these.

Speaker 14 (48:35):
Days, and I I think that I that's something that
I haven't taken lightly in it and just something that
you realize hopefully won't be as abnormal down the line.

Speaker 13 (48:45):
And also knowing that.

Speaker 14 (48:47):
Broadcast is just such a subjective position to begin with.
That's always I perceive it because whether you're male or female,
some people could love you and some could not. So
I think that it is just so subjective across the board,
regardless of your gender. And that's kind of what you
know when you get into this job as well.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Anders check the text line, because I thought everyone loved
what I do on the air everything. Are you sure
that Riley says a subjective people may not like what
we do. That's weird. Yeah, no, exactly, You're so right.
I mean, you're absolutely right along the way because that's
the case. Have you had a chance to act to
Mike Curtle little did he? Have you talked to him?

Speaker 13 (49:25):
He had reached out and he's been so nice.

Speaker 14 (49:27):
I don't talk to him person just yet, but I'm
really looking forward to to sitting down and having a
conversation with him. I mean, he is such a figure
in this community and it has established such a legacy,
so I'm so excited to pick his brain and get
to know him as well.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
It's a big job, and I don't say that to
intimidate or anything like that, but you know what you're
stepping into. Mike was one of the best period all
around baseball for so many years. And Jess and I
have a strong connection to Bob Robertson. I know you've
heard that name. Bob was the longtime voice of Tacoma
base He's a college football Hall of Fame announcer, and

(50:03):
I mean kind of one of my heroes growing up.
So it's a great job, great opportunity, and I'm thrilled
for you, Riley. I really am so dress warm because
it does get a little chilly at Cheney Stadium. You
said you're from Vegas and went to school in Vegas
and from the West Coast. It's you may see the
you mentioned pulling off the tarp. They've got people that
do that at Cheney Stadium, luckily because it's triple A now,

(50:24):
but you will see the tarp. You will see the
tarp quite a bit in marching in April and may
my friend, all right.

Speaker 13 (50:30):
I'm ready for it.

Speaker 14 (50:31):
I bought my first winter jacket when I moved up
to Maine, so we'll bring it out to Tacoma as
well for the first couple of months.

Speaker 13 (50:38):
I'm so excited and can't wait to be there. It's
such a beautiful city.

Speaker 14 (50:43):
From what I've seen so far, so I'm so so
excited to get up there and get going opening day
here soon.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
And an early warning for you here at KJR, where
partners with the Rainiers and we have a former Mariner,
Bucky Jacobson and our morning show host Chuck Powell. The
part of the agreement is we do some shows down there.
Our afternoon drive guys do shows down at Cheeney Stadium.
I think it's like when they play Friday home games
home Fridays, and then a lot of those are connected
with you'll have someone stuck in the booth with you,

(51:12):
including Big Bucky or Chuck. So I'm just kidding. Give
you an early warning on that one, all right. They
probably didn't tell you that during the whole job interview process,
but yeah, Bucky and Chuck will be hanging out with
you every now and then, so God speed t you
in that regard.

Speaker 14 (51:26):
I'm so excited they already told me and I'm so
looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Those guys are great. Then you'll have fun with both
of them. So congrats again, Riley, welcome to the Northwest,
and we can't wait to meet you in person.

Speaker 13 (51:38):
Thank you so much. I appreciate you guys having me on.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
That is Riley Pay from the Tacoma Rainiers, a first
female lead broadcaster in Triple A baseball. Really cool and
say this, I'm going to offend people, and then you
know what tough. We live in a world right now
where we're hearing a whole bunch of stuff about eliminating
DEI and different things like that. Well, there's a different
between DEI and hiring people that are qualified no matter

(52:04):
the gender in a male dominated sport. And just knows this,
well is anybody here, But in a male dominated sport,
especially played by play, there are some that, frankly, are
not easy to listen to and and maybe you kind
of question why they're there. Males and females. Oh yeah, God,
the broadcast last night for the ESPN Plus for the

(52:25):
Wazoo game was I mean, it was okay.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
I don't like to criticize fellow broadcasters, but it was palpable.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
It was the worst it was.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
It was noticeable.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
If I don't notice it, then you're doing it a
fine job. If I noticed it good, then you're doing
a great job.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
If I notice it bad, those two guys are off
good Yeah, here's the thing with Riley. I haven't heard
a call game. I have not heard a call game.
But when when she tells me where she worked and
what she did, she's not getting hired because her name
is Riley Pay and she's the first female broadcaster. When
you grind your way through summer Wood bat leagues for
like next a stipend, and you're riding a bus for

(53:03):
no money, and you are pulling off the tarps and
then gonna go call a game like you're doing it
for the love of the game, and you're probably honoring
your craft, and you're probably pretty damn good like you.
She worked her way up. I know a lot. We
all know a lot of people in this business that
didn't work their way up, that just got stuff handed
to them. I have massive, massive respect for what she's

(53:23):
done because I've done it myself, and I've ridden a
bus and I got no pay. I mean, my first
year with the Thunderbirds, I made less than eleven thousand
dollars that year, and luckily I had a fiance at
the time that was able to help me out a
little bit. But I took a massive pay CCK because
I wanted to do and It wasn't even the hockey
play by play. I just wanted to get into broadcasting
like I was behind the scenes. TV producers don't get

(53:46):
on the air like our producers do. And you take
a leap of faith, but you grind and ride a
bus to brand and ride a bus to Prince Georgi,
or if you're in minor league baseball, ride a bus
to Salem or wherever the hell you're going, right modesto,
et cetera. So for her, I would I would be
honest with you. I would look at it with skeptical eyes.
Of would have said, Riley Page just got hired as
a new uh play by play broadcaster for the Tacoma Rainiers.

(54:09):
Where she come?

Speaker 6 (54:10):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Well, she was last doing sideline reporting, you know, for
UNLV basketball and you know, a game or two on
ESPN Plus. I'd be like, okay, what are we doing,
like to shoot this this This young woman busted her
tail to get to where she is right now. Congratulations.
I hope she's great at it. I'm sure she will be.
I don't think they would have hired her she's not.
And I can't wait till Bucky does a game with her.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
There are also there are so many people that scrape
away in the miners at every level that never ever meet.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
I get into getting to Triple A, is you? I
just so getting to Triple A is massive. And I
brought up the name Tim never Att the other day,
I think on the air. Tim is the play by
play radio voice of the Los Angeles Dodgers. Really tough gig,
as he told me today, I just got fitted for
my new World Series ring, so really hard gig. But
but I first met Tim when he was doing games
in the International Hockey League in the American Highly League,

(55:00):
and I was in Utah and his job was hockey
in the winter, and he did baseball in the summer
for the Vegas Triple A team. And Tim did that
for like twenty plus years in Triple A baseball and
minor league hockey. And now the dudes working for the
Dodgers worked his ass worked. Because you're right, there's a
lot of guys. My friend Steve Cloukey, you just passed
away the old Utah baseball Announcerent. We just talked about

(55:23):
him a few months ago. Friends with Curdle. Steve retired
at the age of sixty four. He did a handful
of games in Major League Baseball, filling in on Angels
and Twins broadcast depending what affiliate they were. Kind of
like Mike did here there, but that was it never
got to the Major's full time. Was unbelievable calling games.
So was Mike Curtle fantastic.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Oh he's great.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
It's so hard and just getting to try. And I
bring up Tim, just getting to triple A is a
big deal. It's very much like a baseball player. If
you're a Triple A baseball player, you're really good, Like
you're really really good. Maybe you're not, maybe you're a
Quad A guy, maybe you're not even that like our
buddy Paalozolo, right, but you're really good to get to
that level. Same with broadcasters. You get triple A, so
you're probably pretty damn good at what you do. Rich Waalt,

(56:03):
you see him on TV's doing CBS Sports doing a
lot more basketball and CBS Sports lot. He did t
Birds for half of one year, but it was a
minor league baseball announcer for a zillion years and now
was the voice of the Miami Marlins. He's the voice
you hear on Etro's record breaking hit. Yeah, that's Rich
So I mean, I love seeing guys at grind and
get a chance to get up. Goldsmith came from the miners, right,

(56:24):
Rick Riz came from the miners, you know. So I
love seeing that. So I just not I'm happy. I'm
thrilled for her. I'm thrilled that we can knock down
doors and let people have an opportunity that maybe wouldn't
have had that opportunity ten or twenty years.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
I just love her perspective too, about how it's such
a subjective like judgment to so true who you are.
Like true, there's people regardless of gender that are gonna
like what you do and dislike what you could.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I never could do baseball, right. I did baseball. I
did a bunch of baseball in Salt Lake. I did
baseball and tri cities. I could do it, yeah, but
I could never do it full time, especially at that level,
because you have to love the game on a level
that's different. Yes, and she obviously he does.

Speaker 6 (57:00):
Just being around it and being in it, that's the
love right there, and then honing your craft and.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Then doing it for games. Yeah, you've got it. You've
got to love the game, yes, And then you got
to spin the stories and do all those things, so
we'll be fun to listen to her when she does.
And yeah, we're doing I just talked to Purple Sheet.
We're doing the same thing down Friday's Chinese Steed in
this year. I gotta get down there. I didn't get
a chance to get down there with those kinds. Love
that parts.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
The games are fun, and then you know, who knows what.
Maybe we'll actually get to see some of the guys
we've been talking about in that top six.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Chris, that's a fun game. I thought you're gona say
we're gonna see Polonko.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
No, that is not that is not where I was going.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
If if Riley pays his uh, Polanco's the next hitter,
Like if she's saying that, and like we got issues,
let's rehab assignment and that would be another issue. Yes,
all right, we'll take a break, we'll come back. We
have a couple of talk packs. We get to Yeah,
we do all this. Would I say that and you
smile like that, I'm sure we'll be entertainment. There's several more,

(58:01):
all right coming up.

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Speaker 11 (58:24):
I'll take Brett Boone right now, right now, whatever h
he is, right now, I'll take Brett Boone over Jorge
Polanco at second base, Like are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Like, let's celebrate like it was a big thing and
that we brought him back.

Speaker 11 (58:40):
Like I'll take Colton Wong in there, I guess at
this point rather than like, let's not do this again,
something needs.

Speaker 16 (58:47):
To Chack feather Ian Jessman and unders. Yeah, so you're
asking about poor hey Polonkole, Well, you know what, it's
better than not doing anything, you know, and it's better
than the Solano siding. And I has been as pessimistic

(59:10):
as I have been all off season. I actually feel
like he's gonna bounce back because it's a one year
deal and he's going to prove it so you can
get a better deal somewhere else next year.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
To very op Chris and Burien and our first guys
two very different feelings towards the new let's just.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
Do there, Oh, change the screen.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Anything, okay, must be on a remote today anyway, two
very differing thoughts on that, and I think that's what
we'll get. Give me one more I got against for Pilanco.

Speaker 17 (59:52):
This is just another sign ownership it's not committed to
put out the team that could win a championship.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
I'm not going to do that up.

Speaker 17 (01:00:00):
Should I get to my money and to go out there,
but take for that teat to get rid of my
roots sports on Kubu. I'm not paying for a ticket,
so they gave me some sign that I should go back.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
See I think Andrews, I think therein lies the issue
is that we've talked, and that's why we did the show.
That's why I brought up the topic two weeks ago
that you know, what, what can they do outside of
winning a World Series to kind of get you back.
What has happened in this market is that they have
put themselves in a position where whatever they do, whatever

(01:00:34):
they do, it's not going to be either not going
to be good enough or met with just serious levels
of pessimism. If they signed Pete Alonzo tomorrow, for example,
like I think we all think, Okay, well, it's probably
an upgrade from Luke Raley every day at first base,
or a combination of Rali and Solano Salano Donovan if

(01:00:58):
that's probably right, that's probably an upgrade there.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Well, and that's the point I think that here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
But what I'm saying is just real quick, even if
that happened, there would be people saying, yeah, but look
at his numbers they tailed off or this. There would
still be pessimism with Pete Alonzo, right right, just because
that's who.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
They are, right, It's everyone's gonna have that sort of help.
But he's gonna come here and suck all of a sudden.
That's just how it goes. But oh yeah, yeah. But
I think if you had maybe signed Pete Alonzo and
then maybe an Alex Bragman even and then like h
J Hipplonko was your third, like okay, he fills a
gap that that's a much different view than like he's

(01:01:37):
kind of your big off season acquisition at this point,
even though you had.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Him on well and like I heard Chuck this morning
talking about it and it's like, yeah, he gives. I
think he's mentioned to Greg Bell when they were doing
their their seah ok thing before they started, because Greg's like,
what really they really signed. Yeah, and Greg was like,
and I think, I think check. So I'll still give
an F minus for their off season. But if they
signed Pete Alonzo, then that changes. But here's the thing.

(01:02:01):
Do they have the money to sign peter A Lonzo?
Now he spend seven Now you've just spent seven and
a half million on Polanco?

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
Probably not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
How is ped A Lonzo on that site? I forgot?
He played every game last year.

Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
Yeah, and he's a thirty plus home run guy. He's
going to strike out a lot, so those who want
to bring him in but then also get rid of strikeouts.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
That's kind of a well he hit thirty four bombs. Yeah,
like like he played, he played every game, Yeah, and
he hit thirty four bombs.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
He's going to do that every year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
He had had eighty eight RBIs. He had a two
forty batting average. I can live with that for a
guy that's going to strike out, can't you?

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Three twenty nine on base percentage ps is a little
on seven eighty eight, But okay, that's good. But the guy, Yeah,
the guy gives you. He gives you something you don't have.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
He's also a name. I just feel like with grab people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Yeah, but that's what I brought up though. I would
think so. But in this in this climate right now
at the baseball team, I'm not sure you could sign
Ken Griffy Junior in his prime and people would say, well,
can you stay healthy?

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:02:59):
I think I think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
This last year crashing into the wall, I mean, are
you sure you can stay healthy?

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
I think if you signed Peter A Lonzo that that
would have some juice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
I would think so. I just don't know now now
I think it's a pipe drink. I didn't even thought
about if there truly was a fifteen million dollar budget.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
I mean, you wouldn't have gotten them with fifteen million
dollars anyway. Okay, but let's just say there was no
thing you wouldn't have gotten Pena.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
But let's just let's just say there was a fifteen
million dollar budget. Let's just say that that's what you
had to work with, and that was a hard that
was a self imposed hard number. If that were the case,
then then let's look, Okay, they spent so I know,
was what three and a half million, Yeah, and then
seven and a half on Polanco. Before you get to bonuses,

(01:03:45):
let's take those off the board. So seven and a
half three and a half, that's eleven million?

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Right? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Did I do my math on the on the air?

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
The good how about radio math? So you're not unless
you just completely blow the doors off of what you
said you would spend, you're totally out of the ELNs.
Like when Chuck brought that this morning, I was taking
away a second there. There's no way unless they just
that was never a real number or not something that
they were adhering to. And if that was the case,
why weren't you aggressive earlier in free agency?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Ooh yeah, the signals that would then.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
I think fifteen million wouldn't have got you. Sure, I
agree to that, But like say, say you just spin
it off. Maybe, well, what what's Alons.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Are going to sign for?

Speaker 5 (01:04:25):
I'd say twenty plus.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
He hasn't signed yet.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
I know he hasn't because he's they're asked for twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Okay, but where's he going to sign? Maybe back with
the Mets. They don't seem to be interesting that they
burn that bridge.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
I don't know. I don't know where he's gonna sign.
This is another Boring's client, by the way, right, that's
another reason probably why there's stuff going on. But yeah,
i'd say close, if not twenty like very close, eighteen
nineteen million.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Do we have one more for this segment? One more
talking at one more time, one more talk back?

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Here we go.

Speaker 18 (01:04:52):
I'm gonna hammer this home every day because it's my
favorite radio station.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
But we appreciate you.

Speaker 18 (01:04:57):
Jerry Depoto is awful. He does not no offense. Can
he develop pictures? We all know that there's two sides
of the game. Guys, all this stuff about ownership, Jerry Depoto.
If you know you're not getting money and you have
the best farm system in baseball, the best, trade and upgrade,
but instead, what.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Do you do here?

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Comes or Polongo?

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I liked a little rhyme there, trade and upgrade. Yeah,
I kind of like that. Yeah, if we did drops,
i'd save that for a drop. But we don't trade.

Speaker 8 (01:05:30):
Trade.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
Why he doesn't want to do any more stuff at
the computer? I know, no, no, it's it's fun when
I play with when I play with with that, Yeah,
it's it is kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
But now I know no, no, no, no, Like I said,
if we had it, then we would do if we
had it. Yeah, I I I think that's the problem.
You get with the Polanco signing though, and that was
probably And by the way, we'll get some more talkbacks
going up to thirty today. Yep, we'll check the text
messages as well. Fourine four five one total more new
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Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Uh you like AI Alec Baldwin then yeah, is that
what is totally wait what that's the new one that's
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Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
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Speaker 8 (01:06:50):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:06:51):
He isn't even the main guy. He interviews a photographer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
On the podcast. Yeah, how do say that's part that's
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Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
All right, I'm not gonna lie here. I'm a little
distracted watch.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
The AT and T pebble Beach pro am.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Oh my gosh, a little wind blowing today. And all
I can think of is our KJR golf outing last fall.
What an absolute gong show that was big, Thanks Offti
for setting it up. It was a ton of fun
always mostly just because of how funny it was with
everything going on, so many moments, just like really just

(01:08:10):
yes from Jackson and how he dressed to go to
a nice golf course, like just looked like Beavis and
butt Head rolling in there with his Metallica shirt T
shirt and it's off. He had to go get him
a basketball shorts or whatever else he is. That's fantastic.
But the biggest thing was, I'm watching these guys playing
in the wind. Yes, we'll get to hockey in a second.
I've watched these guys play in the wind at Pebble

(01:08:32):
Beach and all I'm just thinking about our buddy Mike Benton. Oh,
the guy that licks the fingers to see where the
wind's coming, tosses the grass up, address the ball, take
a step back, reset, check the wind again, had the
had the nice golf pants the whole nine yards line.

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
So it's perfectly on his face.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Yeah, I love you, Bet, and I know you're listening.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
We love you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
But I'm just like I watched these guys. I'm thinking
of man, and the best thing is our guy with
attention deficit, Softy, playing behind Benton.

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
See, now that was mistake number one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Softy made it the he made it the pairing. So
that's on him. That's a hymn. I'm saying, that's one
hundred percent on him. I want to play golf with Ben.
I think I'd laugh the whole time. It's it's a
fun time. I think he's I think he's playing in
the Mayor this year.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
I think Venton's playing in the mayor. You go, yeah,
that's the plan. We'll see, all right, cracking hockey. Well,
here's the deal, guys all. They won last night. The
biggest thing is they got to win on Sunday. We
went through some of the numbers earlier, the standings. It's
really simple. Calgary is the team they're trying to catch
right now. There's a chance they could try to catch La.
But let's just say Calgary or La Calgary Calgary there, Okay,

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that's who it is. I can't do that on the broadcast.
Don't make me do it. I'm gonna I'm gonna slip
on Sunday, guarantee Calgary, the Calgary Flames. Yeah, tell me
to the town.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
Why why can't you go Canadian on the broadcastret that's
breast's job. Oh okay, okay, fair enough. Anyway, why do
they have to win this one in Well, they.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Have a zero point eight percent chance right now, according
to most metrics, to make the playoffs. So you're saying
there's a chance, barely it was.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
It was definitely significantly higher, at least from my calculations
going into this week.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
The Anaheim loss crushed them. Yeah, Calgary's team you're trying
to catch. Here's the reality is this. You are eight
points behind Calgary. Calgary's played three fewer games than you.
If they beat you and increase, that lead to ten
depending on I think they might have a game to
night or tomorrow, but let's tomorrow. It's probably hockey in Canada.
But if they increase, that lead to double digits, and

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probably at the same time LA is going to be
about double digits by then as well. You know it's
already nine. The math just tells you, unless you go
on like a fifteen game winning streak, you're not going
to catch them. And then what it means is if
you're out of the postseason realistic postseason considerations by the
time you get to the Four Nations break, which is

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a week from tomorrow, there you go, Hey for you.
If you get there and you're say, nine, ten, eleven,
twelve points out of a playoff spot, you're going to
start moving guys. Contracts get moved, trades start happening. And
we haven't really gone through that here in Seattle. It's
four years in, but it doesn't take a lot. When

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you go to the games to see you see a
lot of thirteen jerseys. You see a lot of thirty
seven jerseys, twenty four jerseys. There's some beloved guys that
have been here since day one that are probably going
to get moved. So reality, the NHL, the NHL is
a buyer or seller league. We do that every year
with baseball and never really comes to fruition, not a ton.
Baseball is the biggest and I don't know why. It's

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really kind of been that way the last few years.
It used to be a lot more active based the
extra playoff team. Probably, yeah, I think it is. Yeah,
you're right, Yeah, it's Joshi and yelling at me somewhere going.
I have not told you that the but yeah, it's
because of that in hockey more so than any sport.
NBA is probably a close, not a close, but NBA's
number two trade deadline is massively acting.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
You can't beat us in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
You have to either you have to say I'm in
or we're out. And if you're out, then you've got
to move guys. Now win on Sunday, if I mean
when on Sunday, went on Tuesday, knock off Toronto somehow
next Thursday and then go beat Calgary before the break.
If you you go on a little five game heater
to end the end the thing before you get to

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the four nations, that changes things. That changes things dramatically. Yeah,
if you were to do that, you go here's the thing.
If you do that, you go to the break above
five hundred, and it just feels a lot more doable.

Speaker 5 (01:12:50):
Totally does and you beat Calgary twice.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
It's the It starts on Sunday, though.

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
Yeah, it's a huge game.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Here's what I like about it. It doesn't feel this
way because it could end before you really get to March.
But I like the fact that the games are still relevant.
It didn't feel that way the expansion year, and even
though they're behind last year's pace, it didn't feel that
way this year, last year, last year. I think right
now though, if they can get that, like again, get
to win on Sunday, bigger, it's a big ask.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
This is their playoffs right now. It's their playoffs, and
really they're facing elimination. Is probably the best way to
look at Yeah, you've got to win five in a row,
not four in a row, five in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Yeah, but you do that. Go twenty eight, twenty seven,
heading in the break. Okay, now we can dance a
little bit.

Speaker 8 (01:13:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Makes Ron Francis's job really hard because you still have
to make that decision, but it gives you a couple
of weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
That's what you're asking for. Make his job hard, not
don't make it easy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Right, And you know they're a weird team because like
last night, oh only I thought Rory plugged it for
a second. God, what are you playing in the Northwest here?
Where do you fall in the divot rule? Do you like?
Do you think you should be able to move it
out of a dimmitt?

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
I think so? Yeah, for like alf Is like you
and I, Yeah, I'm not these guys. I just turned
there's I'm worried about myself. I've turned into softy a
little bit here and there. Like what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
I just got distracted? That's oh yeah that anyway. Big
game on Sunday, Al and Everett and the Captain Mike Benton.
Mike Benton, we'll have it for you five thirty pre game,
six o'clock, drop of the puck here behind the scenes.
Are you here on the board? Okay, all right?

Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
Watching us on TV, listening to them on the radio. Yeah,
all right, beautiful, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Uh Steve Pelosolo, Senior Bowl guy, We're gonna nerd out
with some NFL draft talk. How's that sound we might get?
We'll have him on next week's We may touch briefly
on Super Bowl matchup, but we'll talk about a Senior
Bowl palos Allo next.

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The producers the producer before that, Kevin was his first name.
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like that with him or I, you know, you do
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He goes non self fundy, it's like Softy protect Hey,
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Yeah?

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Well, you know why he didn't think it was funny
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Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Normally Wednesdays at one o'clock today. It's a Friday at
two o'clock, five o'clock his time. Because there's a little
thing called the Senior Bowl going on this week. So
guess who joined us right now? Our friend Steve Palazolo.
And I believe you're still there right.

Speaker 9 (01:17:49):
Oh no, I made it home. Oh you did make
it all okay, yesterday? Okay, Yeah. Most people fly out
Wednesday or Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
I saw the video was posted an hour ago with
you and Sam Sam or ear Tall. That's my first, uh,
that's my first break down there. But I saw that,
and I was thinking, he's still there, because let's be honest,
all the cool kids leave before the real game, and
you're one of the cool kids, so I would expect
that you would have left already.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Oh yeah, everybody was out.

Speaker 9 (01:18:15):
I saw saw John Schneider at the airport. Everyone else
at the airport, you know, leaving on leaving yesterday. So uh,
that's that's most people are out either Wednesday night or
sometime Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
So how you and Schneyder have a good conversation, you
guys break stuff down? How'd that go?

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Oh he's a buddy, Yeah, he's a he's a. He's
a friend. Now we hang out at these events.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
So or you saw you, Sorry, buddy, you saw her, buddy,
Dave Pierson. The PR guys like stay away from mister Schneider,
stay away, stay away.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Who are you?

Speaker 9 (01:18:43):
They're very It's funny because I'm always like slowly trying
to get hey when you join the show, can we Yeah,
they're very protective obviously of the trade secrets.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
But we're working on working on him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
What happened. He's he's a fun guy to talk to you.
I wish I wish he would do it more often
for all of this. All right, Steve Pellows, I'll get
to Senior Bowl just a second. We'll do this next week.
We'll have and you guys will have your breakdowns and
all that. We'll get ready for the Super Bowl, which
you can hear right here in nine three point three
k TERRFM, Cursive West one. We'll get to that next Wednesday.
But just real quick before we talk Senior Bowl, where
you were out all week? A quick thought from you,

(01:19:15):
just your overriding thought feeling theme of what we get
a week from Sunday with Philadelphia and Kansas City.

Speaker 9 (01:19:23):
Yeah, I mean I think it's gonna be another great game.
Obviously played each other a couple of years ago. It's
amazing watching the Eagles have really reshaped their defense just
in the two years since they've played, and in that
defense has been fantastic this year. So keeping an eye
on the Eagles pass rocks their ability to disrupt Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
I think the Vic Fangio as a defensive.

Speaker 9 (01:19:42):
Coordinator, that matchup against Mahomes is an interesting one because
Fangio's defense, you know, like when earlier in mahomes career,
used to give Mahomes problems, but I think that that
was part of what led to the way the Chiefs
have changed and evolved their offense.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
So I think it's a really good matchup for the
Chiefs short pass.

Speaker 9 (01:20:01):
So I think that's you know that there's that side
of the ball, and then you know Jalen Hurts against
the blitz and the Eagles ability to handle spags and
everybody talking this week, Hey Josh Allen, fourth and five,
you get the blitz? Did you make the right decision?
Should Dalton kin Kaid have caught the ball? It always
seems to come down to a third down spags blitz.
It was last year in the Super Bowl batted pass

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on third and four, where if the Niners just completed
the pass, they essentially win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
It always comes down to those situations.

Speaker 9 (01:20:28):
So, you know, the Eagles offense and their ability to
pass protect they you know, Jalen Hurts just got sex
seven times a couple of weeks ago against the Rams,
where they did a really nice job messing with the
Eagles protection. So I think that's going to be the
story of the game on that side. Philadelphia's ability to
handle the blitz. Of course, you got Saquon, but I
don't think you can always bake on him, you know,
pick it up one sixty yard touchdown every single time.

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So I think it's about spags and the blitz against
the Eagles pass protection.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Seat Palozolo joining US thirty third team, and we'll again,
we'll break this down a lot more next week when
we get to the super Bowl week and all of that. Steve,
let's let's start here. Let's let's get right to this.
And for those that don't know, haven't followed our show,
maybe you're new to the show. We've been talking to
Steve for I think we've been doing weekly NFL stuff

(01:21:16):
with you going on five or six years. That sound
about right to you. It feels like it's been at
least five years. And I think the last three years
we've also we kind of give you like a month
off and then my people talk to your people and
sponsors and all that, and then we get you back
on for the draft, starting like probably early March. We
get you and Cosell and Rang, we go heavy hard
with draft. And for people that haven't listened to Steve

(01:21:38):
much or don't know that, you love the draft like
you love team building. You love roster building like as
much as the games are fun every week. This is
kind of your thing, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Yeah, it is. I love the player evaluation process.

Speaker 9 (01:21:50):
I love the player valuation process, you know where some
they get drafted and fits with teams, and then you
know the free agent process and the whole team building
aspect of every So yeah, I think it's great. And
you know, something like the Senior Bowl or the All
Star Game, it's just another piece of this giant puzzle.
And we do get this great access down there at

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the Senior Bowl to talk to gms and you know,
assistant gms and scouts and everything and kind of talk about,
you know, behind the scenes a little bit about their process,
and that's what they're.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Doing right now.

Speaker 9 (01:22:19):
They're trying to weigh what's this draft class look like,
what does a free agent class look like?

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
What are our team needs?

Speaker 9 (01:22:25):
You know, you come out of the season with, Hey,
here are the things that went wrong that must be fixed.
Everybody's trying to fix figure out all of those problems
right now, solve all those problems right now. So it's
a great time of year and just for me, I
think as fun as the season watching teams trying to
team build for the next year.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Well, we'll obviously get deep into that coming up in
the spring, but let's just from your observation Senior Bowl week,
just your general takeaways, positions of strength, positions of weakness,
and we'll get to a couple of players I want
to ask about specifically in a second, but just your
overriding thoughts from what you saw at senior ball.

Speaker 9 (01:23:01):
Yeah, everybody always talks about the quarterbacks. I think there's
plenty of questions about QB in this draft class. I
think that's I think that's fair both at the top
and then you know the Senior Bowl where you didn't
have the top two names. You don't have cam Ward,
you don't have too dark Sanders, and the big questions
who's QB three, A lot of buzz that maybe teams
don't love, you know, any of the quarterbacks, and there

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might not be that same type of run that we
saw last year. Certainly not expecting six in the top twelve.
So I think the quarterback class down a little bit.
The D line class was really the story of the week.
I made sure that I was watching the O line
D line one on ones. I think that's where a
lot of the entertainment is watching those guys going up
against each other. Some of the offensive linemen really stepped

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up and did a nice job, some of the small
school guys in particular. But this D line class, I
think if you if you need an edge rusher, an
interior pass rusher, run stopper, there's a lot of players
to be had there. There's also a lot of players
that are very talented and maybe have that quote unquote
up I have to clean up some things. So I
think it's a it's a loaded defensive line class, and

(01:24:05):
senior ball wise, you don't get to see this as much,
but it's definitely a loaded running back class.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
It's a it's a good tight end class. Some of
the tight ends showed out.

Speaker 9 (01:24:12):
So I thought last year's draft class was very much
strong in the most valuable positions offensive line.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
Receiver, QB. And this year it's going to be more.

Speaker 9 (01:24:25):
It's going to be the trenches and then some of
those secondary positions running back, tight ends that I think
are a little bit stronger.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Steve Pelozola is joining US thirty third team. Let's talk
quarterbacks for a second, and cam and Should Doure. Let's
just start with those two because I want to ask
you about Jackson Dart in a second. But let's just
start with those two, cam Ward and Shadoor Sanders. And
neither one of them were there, right, I don't think
either of them were there at the Senior Bowl. But no,
But so those two guys are the presumed top two

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guys whatever order you want to go in, and are
both first rounders, we assume. So so so that is
the case, right he was at the consent is when
you're talking to guys down there, that it's like those
two guys are are separated. Okay, So where does Jackson
Dart fit in?

Speaker 9 (01:25:06):
I mean a lot of the buzz coming out of
there is that he's maybe a first rounder, and you know,
other than you know, dropping a few snaps, which you
know happens from a shotgun quarterback, I thought he was fine.
I actually spend more more of my time focused not
on the quarterbacks we know, with the one on ones
and various things. But I think Darts, I think is
a good prospect. I don't think any of these prospects
are great. He's a pretty good arm uh ran. That

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offense really well at Ole Miss. The the trouble with
some of the Old Miss offense is that Lane Tiffin's
really good. He's a really good play caller and creates
so many open throws to be friendly throws. It is
to evaluate those qbs, uh, you know coming out of
Old Miss. We saw that with Matt Carral a few
years ago. He put up a lot of really good
numbers and never really panned out at the NFL level.

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So I'm not gonna hold that against Jackson Dart necessarily,
but I think he's the leader to maybe go in
the first round. And I think he's got a lot
of fans. He has a lot of fans. I think
that the Jackson Dart hype I think is going to
pick up in the coming weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Did you get a chance to lay eyes on Jalen Milroe.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
I did. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:26:10):
You know, it's interesting because the week started with his
hand size, and you know, I used to joke about
scouts caring about hand size, and people joke about it still.
But he's under nine inch hands and it's about eight
and three quarters I believe maybe eight and a half.
And it's not a massive deal, but the teams often
used that nine inches as a cutoff because of the

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ability to grip the ball, throw the ball at accuracy,
throw the ball in velocity, throw the ball in weather,
and guys like Jared Goff nine inch.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Hands, Joe Burrow nine inch hands. I think Tony Romo
was right there.

Speaker 9 (01:26:41):
Like guys have survived this, you know, but once you're
under nine, it is tricky. And with Milroe again, it's
not as simple as like read this number and evaluate him.
You see the ball flutter coming out of his hand.
It's not clean, and you saw that this week at
the Senior ball is inconsistent, and so I've got some

(01:27:01):
questions about Milroe as a passer. Anyway, the under nine
inch hands didn't help, and I think it's it's difficult
to you know, if you were the Cleveland Browns, I
don't think you want a guy, you know, with under
nine inch hands, with velocity questions, you know, quarterbacking in
December in the wind in Cleveland. So that's going to
be the tricky part. With Jaylen Milroe, I was standing athlete.

(01:27:23):
You coul build a run game around him, but I
think he's got a ways to go as a pastor.
And the hand side is just kind of like confirmed
a little bit of what you see on tape.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Yeah, he's one of those. It feels like there's just
even with the top two guys, a lot of questions
in that position. We'll have plenty of time to talk
quarterbacks down the road as well. It is Steve Palozolo
joining us. Steve from of course the thirty third team
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I want to ask you about a guy that it
feels like you guys are kind of loving quite a
bit in this in this process. Tell us about the
wide receiver from Utah State.

Speaker 9 (01:28:03):
Oh yeah, Jalen Royals. You know he this was my
podcast partner Sam.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
He hasn't.

Speaker 9 (01:28:10):
He tries to not watch as much film until the
Senior Ball that he likes to get the first impression
watching those guys, either on film or in person. He
loved Royals almost immediately, you know, watching him at Utah State,
he reminded me a little bit of a Marii Cooper
the way the way he moves just to slick in
and out of rouds really good at the line of scrimmage.
I thought Royals had a really nice week. And this
wide receiver class, it's not as deep as what we've seen, right.

(01:28:32):
We hit this two or three year stretch where the
wide receiver class was loaded. There was first rounders, there
was future stars. I don't think we're going to see
that from this wide receiver class. But I do think
rounds two through four, you know, maybe late first and
into the fourth round, there's gonna be some depth receivers here,
guys that could be really good, complimentary pieces, really good
twos and threes in this class. And I think Royals,

(01:28:55):
I think showed probably the best receiver down there this week,
and one of the better receivers in this class.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Yeah, but he didn't play against Wazoo, which was interesting
that Washington State played him. So I had to go
back and be like, did he play against wwazouz because
I would have figured he would have just gone off.
He didn't play against Wazoo in that in their game
this year. Steve Pallazolo joining us A online, all right,
let's talk about the trenches. Who's who's the defensive lineman?
That it was a Green that everyone was going gushing
over this week from the small school tell us about

(01:29:20):
this dude.

Speaker 9 (01:29:20):
Yeah, I mean, people liked Mike Green going in, and
I think he led the nation in stacks. I never
look at the sack totals, but I think he led
the nation. He was he was already on the radar
coming into the season. Some of my draft friends, Dan Brugler,
Mike Renner, they were they were highlighting him coming in.
He was he was one of the better pass rushers
in the nation. And then he comes out and has

(01:29:42):
probably the rep of the week against Oregon's Josh Connerly.
I feel bad for Connorley a little bit because Day
two of the Senior Bowl, guys who predominantly played left tackle,
will switch over to get reps at right tackle, and
a lot of times you know how difficult it is
to switch side. So Connorley was playing right tackle. He's
not used to the foot work, but he got absolutely
wrecked by Mike Green with a bull rush just you know,

(01:30:06):
put on his back. So for Mike Green, it was
it was huge because he's got some burst and bend
around the edge. But he showed that speed to power
in those one on ones. And then he left and
and this is what happens at the Senior Bowl sometimes
because the agents are involved, and Mike Green has this
rep and it goes viral and people already like him.
And he just finished after day two said that's it.

(01:30:27):
I'm out done with the Senior Bowl. I've made my
point and I'm moving on. And a couple other defensive
linemen did the same thing, so they opted out. But
Green had a nice week. Didn't have a ton of
other dominant reps like that, but he had some solid
reps and I think he's a good all around, maybe
one of the best pass rusher, the best pass rusher
in this raft.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Connorley's from out here, by the way, which Rainer Beach
High School. So's he's a guy that we know. Well,
I always thinking of the same thing, Like I didn't know.
I didn't realize it was even you know, hadn't looked
at it close enough to know that he was playing
with the on the right side as the guy's on
the left side. That is totally different, like for like,
And I always kind of chuck when I hear coaches
that have never coached or been around an offensive line saying, well,
you know, he just from them from right side to

(01:31:05):
left side, but especially with a kickstep and everything else
you gotta do as alignment totally different. Does that mess
up Connery at all? I mean, because it's gonna be
the lasting image and if whoever drafts him, that everyone
locally that night'll be like, see, this is the guy
we just drafted in the first round, Like oh my god,
like that type of thing. Do you think that the
scouts look at that and say, all right, like he's
on the right side. Body of work in Oregon speaks

(01:31:27):
for itself. He's gonna be okay.

Speaker 9 (01:31:29):
No, I think scouts understand enough of that, and especially look,
you need to practice from the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
You have to go through all that. But these guys haven't.

Speaker 9 (01:31:38):
The season just ended a few weeks ago, right within
the last month. It's not like he's been repping right
tackle snaps. So I think they understand that there are
players now. When players perform well across multiple positions, I
think it's a big feather in their cap. If they struggle,
it's easy enough to you know, chalk it up to, hey,
you know, it's difficult to switch. Remember Pennay Seul was

(01:31:59):
a left hand in college. In his first seven weeks
in the NFL include preseason plus the regular season, he
struggled on his move to right tackle, and then and
then it's like, you know, they flip the switch, and
all of a sudden, he's one of the best right
tackles in the NFL. It just takes time to get
used to the footwork. So I don't think they'll hold
it against Connorley too much.

Speaker 5 (01:32:17):
I would for let go I saw you tweeted this
out or exit out or whatever is the post these days,
d line classes deep, but there will be healthy debates
as to where teams value athletic freaks like Shamar Stewart
and Dion Walker.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
So the first thing I thought of as someone who's
been out here. We've been covering the Seahawks, and Schneider
got here in twenty ten. So you have tell me
about these two guys, because that just screams Seahawk draft
pick someone who's an athletic freak on a D line
but maybe isn't a finished product and you got some
question marks about him. What are these two guys all about?

Speaker 9 (01:32:48):
Yeah, So Shamar Stewart's like six six two eighty's gonna
remind a little bit of Trayvon Walker coming out a
few years ago, who was all work out, one of
the best, maybe the best edge rusher worked out of
all time, average production coming out of Georgia, and he
goes number one overall. Stewart has that type of athleticism
and size and length he had He had a really
good week, but he did not rush the passer really

(01:33:10):
well at Texas A and M. So again, it's going
to be a low production, high athleticism length, look feel
that type of guy. So that's where Shamar Stewart's going
to be. Deon Walker is going to be fascinating because
he's six foot seven, three hundred and forty pounds.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
He had a viral rep.

Speaker 9 (01:33:28):
This week, but it was against a coach, knocked over
a coach on one of the D line drills, which
was great. He's the guy that goes back and forth
between incredible rep that makes sense for a six foot seven,
three hundred and forty pounder, and then there's other times
where he's just completely gone, you know, knocked out of
the play, both in the run game and as a
pass rusher, locked up against guys that he should be

(01:33:48):
absolutely dominating on the offensive line. So I think both
Shamar Stewart and Dean Walker fascinating prospects. Size, length, speed
don't necessarily have be down to down production very inconsistent,
and those are the types of players that coaches look
at and say, we can fix that. We could fix
this guy. We could get Dean Walker to play with

(01:34:09):
better pad level, we can get Shamar Stewart to expand
his pass rush repertoire. So they're gonna be fascinating players
to come draft time. I think Stewart goes in the
first I think Walker probably ends up in the second round.
But somebody's going to look at those guys and say,
we could turn them down into very good every down players.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
When you're describing Dean Walker. The first thing that came
to mind was Red Bryant when he was here in Seattle.
And Red was like six six six ' six sixty
seven and well north of three hundred pounds. Wasn't a
pass rusher though, and had like in Steve like the
first couple of years here. I think Hombern had him
for a year, and then Mora had him for a year,
and then you know, like they couldn't figure out what

(01:34:48):
to do with this guy, like where where because he's
not an edge rusher, but he's kind of he's not
a detackle because the leverage everything else, right, And they
and Pete put him in this five tech and kind
of created a spot for him. And then just and
we hadn't even heard the term five tech before, right,
and then all of a sudden, Red Bryant became a
huge part of their Super Bowl team. So I sounded
like this guy might be a little more athletic than
big Red was. But those are the hard ones, right,

(01:35:08):
Like they don't fit into a box Like that's you
kind of almost want him to be six five six
six and three hundred and ten pounds or something like
that with some burst.

Speaker 9 (01:35:17):
Yeah, the high thing for defensive tackles is tough sometimes.
I remember the early two thousand Jaguars had Marcus Stroud
at six foot six and John Henderson at six foot seven,
and sometimes when near that tall pad level is a
massive issue. You can get blown off the ball, even
if you are really strong. Red Bryan certainly found his
role as the run stopping strong side five tech for Seattle.

(01:35:38):
We'll see what happens with Walker because he moves extremely well.
He's very athletic, right, so almost plays like a two
hundred and eighty pound defensive tackle. But he's three forty
and really tall. So yeah, he's gonna be an interesting
one to watch because he'll have some reps. You could
hear him what he was, what he was taken to
the coaching. He would dominate those pass rush reps. But
if he wasn't, you know, sometimes it was like, man,
why is this undersized alignment getting this getting it, getting

(01:36:01):
under getting under his pads and dominating them.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
So you saw that inconsistency there.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
All right, my friend, I'm assuming that the check the
mic pod will be hot and heavy post Senior Bowl
and also heading into Super Bowl week. Let us know
what you got going on there.

Speaker 9 (01:36:14):
Yeah, we're going to the super Bowl. Sam and I
are flying out. We're gonna be there Monday to Monday.
We're going to the game. We're going to have a
game recap right outside of the super Dome that Sunday night,
right after the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
So yeah, we have a we have a big week.

Speaker 9 (01:36:25):
So we're gonna do our super Bowl preview that'll drop
Monday morning and then follow check the MIC either on
YouTube or regul listening to your podcast. We'll be at
the super Bowl the entire week with all sorts of
great stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
All right, Well, we'll check in with you at some
point next week when it works for your schedule and
we can fit that in and and get a good previews.
In the meantime, go check out to check the MIC
podcast Andrews and IBUL subscribers right for you, I am. Yeah,
that's what we like to hear. We'll talk to you
next week. Thanks, Steve, All right, thank you appreciate it,
Steve Plosolo joining us. Great stuff there. Yeah, that I

(01:36:56):
see healthy debates where teams value athletic freaks like so
and so and so and so. That just that's that's
just a Seahawk draft pick one of those, one of
those two guys is gonna get picked by Schneider. It's
just it's so when you hear the name Shamar Stewart
or Dion Walker, that's that's why you're gonna go, oh yeah,
I remember pellos. Oh yeah, athletic freak. Doesn't fit in
the box. Didn't really produce like you wanted him to,

(01:37:17):
but a.

Speaker 8 (01:37:19):
Lot of upside.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Talent and that you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Coach love his upside. But that's true. Like Red Brian,
Like Red Bryan was like when Red first came in,
You're like, damn, look at this guy. He's a he's
a monster the mountain of a man. Or like Northwest
Colleges where they're still at when he first got You're like,
look at this dude. You can see him from all
the way across. We couldn't even get over and watch him.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Got to be that to marry Jacob Greenstonter.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Well, that's true too. I forgot about that. But then
they you know, Pete found him a spot. Yes, and
Pete made him a star and they kind of molded
some of the defense around him. So all right, they
break any more talkbacks. Oh yeah, talkbacks, tax next.

Speaker 19 (01:38:13):
Every time I hear this music man, every time I picture,
you'll send you some horse sample.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
Listen, you're a horse family. I am not. Well the
wife is. I'm not. That makes you a horse family guy.

Speaker 19 (01:38:29):
I just listen when she complains about what's happening with
the horses man, which there's a lot that goes into it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
So you're a horse fan. It's a high maintenance business.
You have to go out there and and like comb
the horse or what they call it. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
I don't pick the skulls, the stalls, and you fine
have added.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
I'll do that all the horse you want.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
It's all yours. You have nothing to do with your horse,
this horse or horses horses. Okay, well there's more than
one horse there, but we have two. That's what I'm asking.
I have not been to the bar and I think
I was maybe a month ago. Horse family.

Speaker 19 (01:39:03):
I make a couple of trips a year just to
show myself. Yeah, kind of a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
They like have me down there, you know.

Speaker 19 (01:39:09):
So it's good marketing. It's in Buckley, Buckley, it's called
brass Ring Farm. When you go out to buy by
the ship down there, not the not the seafood place.
It's the same guy that owns it, uh, big old Mike.
So we stopped by there and get some burgers and
shakes and fries, and then I put the wife on
a horse and I go home.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
Yeah, that's it. Does she ride the horse only home
back at this point? That's right, that's right.

Speaker 19 (01:39:34):
When I was in elementary school, we once had a
father pick up a kid on a horse came right
outside the classroom door in Bellevue Woodridge hill Norridge Elementary.
Swear to God, you can ask my second grade teacher,
missus Gosh, I believe that her husband works at Manashi
Jewelry in west This might be like two or three

(01:39:57):
for her. I'm not sure which one this is, okay,
but yeah, we a guy come to class and pick
up his son on the horse on horseback, like nineteen
eighty one, eighty two.

Speaker 5 (01:40:05):
As well, it wasn't that long ago. But no, I'm
watching them golf. I'm massively distracted today. You should look
at where Scheffler is. Look at that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, I think I've been there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
I was there.

Speaker 19 (01:40:15):
Yeah, Well, I've played pebble twice and I was nervous
as hell both times. Just were you playing with friends
or do you get suck with Randos with pals? I
was down there for Paul Mendez' fiftieth bir Okay, yeah
I used to work here.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
I told a group of knuckleheads, you know, golf bros.
Because I would think that would be like, if you
go there, you have to put with people, you know,
because you're gonna be nervous any course, Like I know
guys like I'll play with. I don't like playing with Randos.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 19 (01:40:38):
I don't like people anyway, So no, it's got to
be people like you know. The good thing is I
don't like anybody. Probably probably the same way. But look
at Shepherd's on the beach. You know what, you can't
find your ball? Guy, be done with it, go back
to the tea. But you walk in there, man, and
it's just golf bro after golf bro. They all pulled
in off of the off of the shuttle bus and
they're drinking already, and they're looking for the ball are

(01:41:00):
and heading to the pro shop and doing this, doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
So and there's a dress code, I mean, just normal,
Like could Jackson show up like he did, he would have,
he would have actually been executed in his metallica to
your shirt looking like Beavis and butt Head and all that.

Speaker 19 (01:41:15):
He would have been murdered for sure. That would not
have flown at Pebble Beach. That's eighteen that you're watching
right now. That that picture, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
That's awesome, right? That look pretty? Are you oppressed?

Speaker 19 (01:41:29):
So you know, I'm glad that you did that because
I don't really give a damn when people show me
pictures like get whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
I don't know what. Couldn't see who they were? Four
guys you would You wouldn't know any of those guys,
none of those men? Is he in there?

Speaker 8 (01:41:41):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
Yeah, he's there. That's him, right, that's right there?

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Fat guy? Hey, what what was your What was your
instant reaction when you heard the name? You say it
for me? Poco? No, come on, come on, come on?
Is that what you're referring to?

Speaker 19 (01:41:59):
And yesterday's show when the news came down to the
MS had signed Pologoye, That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
What was your reaction? First, We'll give me the reaction
to give me all right, plank with a fifteen running bam.

Speaker 19 (01:42:14):
They sure to check the Monsters on TV ash tomorrow
following Mark and Mindy and Chinese first pitch four oh three.
Remember that it was always something weird. It was Remember
that dial tone that they used to play. I think
ESPN did the same thing, like when they were uploading
to the satellite back in the day. Well, yeah, you

(01:42:34):
hear on TV that might be before just's time skip carey,
skip ship Carrey used to here. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
How do you go from on a buet? How does
that happen? It's like somebody's voice box, just like does
he have a different mother or something? Oh my god,
is there a different family tree? Pretty much?

Speaker 19 (01:42:54):
Just think about the way Harry sounded and the way
Skips his son, right, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Right, Chip Carry's Harry Carry's son.

Speaker 19 (01:43:03):
So you go from him doing on Abella to Monsters
tomorrow and Timmy is it's like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
He sounds nothing like his dad and who they signed yesterday?
Nothing Yon. So what was your reaction? I was happy,
very happy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:43:16):
I thought it was a great signing by the Mariners.
You're phenomenal signing. Well, Dick made the point on the air,
and he's exactly right. The Mariners are better off just
not doing anything right, Like they should just sign players,
not announce anything, and then come April, here's the ross
and everyone gets pissed off at the same time about
everything instead of drawn this whole thing out at first
the first Cactus League game.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
Hey, pol uncle's back.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
That's true.

Speaker 19 (01:43:39):
And by the way, we'd like to reintroduce Tommy La
Stella and care coms Cooper Hubble because we're too cheap
to sign anybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
Is there a Culton Along signing anywhere?

Speaker 19 (01:43:49):
Oh my god, Adam Fraser, I mean that might be
a good signing, and Adam Fraser actually was a good thing.
He might come here and stink again. By the way,
I don't know, dude. It's just par for the course
for them.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
But whatever.

Speaker 19 (01:43:58):
I'm just there's nothing they can do right now. You know,
the the the optics of the planco signing are so
fricking terrible, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
They're so bad.

Speaker 19 (01:44:07):
It doesn't matter, you know, people saying things like, well
there's nothing else left, yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
They sat on their ass. Oh so you do have
feelings about this, feelings nothing more than feb What might
you be doing today on your show, sir?

Speaker 19 (01:44:20):
Let's see Sean Merriman, the former defensive end's going to
join us. He's one of Jimmy Shapiro's minions. Okay, he'll
pop on courtesy a bet online at three point thirty
on the show. The hot blogger was at the Senior Bowl,
by the way, he's back now. Join us at four
o'clock to talk about that, and then our buddy Huey
Millen will join us at five pm tonight, plus a

(01:44:41):
little fun with audio at three forty five, and.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
We're reacting to this fuck. Thank you to the Pilacco
signing right here on changing air for the mild mannered
and marginally objectionable ean forness this paddle day, saying so
long everyone,

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