Furness Show 11-17: Hugh Millen, Mike Sando, Chris Crawford

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Speaker 1 (02:00):
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Speaker 3 (02:17):
All right, Hugh Millan is here.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
He is with us in his hardcore football on this
Monday after a bummer Seahawks lose in a just a
huge just felt like a heavyweight title fight yesterday at
Sofi Stadium.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
How are you, my friend? Yeah, I'm I'm doing fine.
I think I in hearing some of their critique. I'm
I'm feeling in a little bit of Aaron Rodgers r E.
A lax mode, you know this morning when I was
on with Chuck and Buck. Yes, you know, I'm like, look,

(02:51):
Sam Darnold had four interceptions. They're all double minuses. There's
no excuses.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
We'll get into some of the detail about it. I'm
not trying to shirk what he did, but I think
that some of the critique that has been coming his way.
To me, fan how you want a fan, I'll just
say the way I fan. I would need to see
something a lot worse over a longer period of time.

(03:21):
If I was in a coma and I woke up
and I only heard and read the critiques of Sam
Donald and didn't know what he had done prior to yesterday,
but yesterday was all I had to go by, I
would think this guy that the Seahawks are three and seven,
this guy's at the bottom of Pro football focused rankings

(03:42):
as opposed to number one as he was going in
this game. I would think that he's at the bottom
of the QBR, you know, which is the the Gucci
Passer Rating upgrade. And he was number one going to
this week, and and so I would just, you know,
I would look at Sam Donald and I would say,
here's a guy that had one of the most epic

(04:03):
Rose Bowls or Bowl games I've ever seen, in a
fifty two to forty nine shootout when the Trojans beat
Penn State. He threw for four and fifty three yards
and five touchdowns. You know, I don't know that he
has it's the clutch gene if you know, maybe he
had it and he doesn't have it anymore, that it's

(04:24):
in his head from last year. I am certain of this.
They say football is a game of inches, and the
most important inches in the for the entire Seattle Seahawk
franchise franchise, in my opinion, is the six inches of
gray matter under Sam Darnold's cap, because for the next

(04:45):
four weeks, it's not gonna matter what he does. He
could be the NFC Player of the Week every week,
be the NFC Player of the month. And you say, well,
that doesn't make sense because he just had a game
in mid November and the next game is is mid December.
So yeah, that's a third. But you get the point.
It's all gonna matter if if they line up and

(05:06):
they play like that on defense, and Sam Darnold can
improve his game just nominally. What if he has a
good game, What if he has a great game, But
if he just does something other than four inter step
and you come back and you win that game, you know,
I just think that this is awful early to be

(05:26):
putting a shovel on this guy. So and and final
point on that at seven and three and just one
game out of the conference lead. The Seahawks right now
are in the exact same position or better after ten
games than five of the six most recent super Bow

(05:46):
Bowl champions. There's only one team, I'm not sure which
it was, but they're eight and two at the ten
game mark. All of the other five of the last
six Super Bowl winners were seven to three or worse
after ten games. So they're they're right there. They're right there.
If Sam Darnold somehow hasn't freaked himself out and that

(06:10):
and he won't repeat this so and we won't know
that until December eighteenth.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
And we'll get to the we'll get to that in
a second. To go through some of the interceptions and
some other things, I want to ask you Milling about
hardcore football. By the way, Ernest Jones agrees with you.
Here here's him post game yesterday.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I mean, Sam's been balking, right.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
If we want to try to define Sam by this
game or what man, Sam's bean had us in every game.
So for him to sit there and say, oh, that's
my fault, No, it's not. It was plays that defensively,
we could have made plays. There were opportunities where we
could have got better stops. Yeah, I mean, like it's football, man,
he's our quarterback. We got his back, and you got

(06:47):
anything to say, quite frankly.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
You okay, linebacker's got his back. He Well, I think
I think that's important. I think that you know, he's
he's a green dot on the defense. And you could
see how inspired that defense was to me.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Just the.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Goal line stands in the first quarter were heroic, and
you know they ultimately you know, got pierced one time
on a fourth down when when Sean McVay was empty
and everything he had no you know, he was completely flummoxed.
That was just warriors down there baddling. You know, it
was beautiful and so and he's the he's the in

(07:28):
some ways the captain of the defense, right, he's the
he's the vocal one on the field. So so I
think that that probably projects how the defense feels about him.
Now again, if it happens again on December eighteenth, now
we're saying we got a problem. But yeah, you know,
I'm not gonna freak out about a team that's seven
and three and that this that wasn't the thrust of

(07:51):
my tenor this morning. It wasn't until I hear everybody
just like jumping off the Sam Darnold trip and whacking
him around like he's on a you know, hanging from
a like a Pignonto hanging from a tree, as if
the guy had never freaking done anything.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
He was.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
He was twenty four and eight over his last thirty
two games, you know. And by the way, at some point,
I don't know whether it's your show or whatever, but
I'm gonna have to unload on this whole uh you know,
seeing ghost stuff that people seem to resurrect. Well, right now,
we want to do it right now.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Let's do it right now.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Okay. Yeah, So when Sam Donald was freshly twenty two
years old, he played on a Monday night game against
the New England Patriots, and Tom Brady that in that game,
if you watch that game, it was, which I have.
I've watched the coaches tape and I did it this

(08:47):
summer or when when we acquired Donald, so I have
it fresh and in my memory relatively fresh. It was
some of the worst offensive offensive coordinating I've seen. You
were going against Bill Belichick. You know what the Patriots
were that year twelve and four, you know what they
were ranked in in defense, number one in points, number

(09:07):
one in yards, fewest touchdown passes thirteen, most interceptions sixteen.
They were number one defensively across the board. Sam Darno
was twenty two, and his first two years at the
Jets he had two offensive coordinators that when they got fired,
they never got a job in the NFL. Again, gone,

(09:30):
that never happens. Usually a guy will get a tight
end coach job somewhere, right, but anyway, So, seeing ghosts
is a terminology. I've been in quarterback meeting rooms with
three Hall of Fame quarterbacks and three additional Pro Bowls,
so six Pro Bowl quarterbacks. Seeing ghosts is a lexicon.

(09:53):
It's a term of the industry, and what it means,
obviously is that you're seeing some you think that there's
a player who's not there. So I heard, you know,
a bunch of people are saying, oh, Sam Donald was
seeing ghosts yesterday. No, Sam Darnald wasn't seeing any ghosts. He,
if anything, he should have seen the guys that were there.

(10:15):
So if you want to critique Sam Donald, don't say
seeing ghosts because it was the opposite of seeing ghosts,
right like he like right he was he was he
was seeing guys in invisible suits, like it's the opposite
of a ghost. And what happened. I watched the tape,
I I I noted the time that they said said
it was very clear when they had the mic up audio.

(10:39):
They came back and and it was after an interception
that he had had in the red zone. And it
was one of two things. And this term seeing ghosts
is used in quarterback meeting rooms. Like I would say
that here's an example of ian. You're a hockey guy.
Let's suppose that that you heard wired some up the
you know, a goalie said I'm here in war chance.

(11:02):
You know, well, you'd say, oh, well, this guy's freaking out.
Well what if I told you that that's uh, you know,
you know, just some you know, it's a it's a
term of the industry that maybe somebody I don't know,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Know, you know, I know what you're saying. I know
what you're saying one way, and then yeah, okay, let's
do this. We can actually take a break here, can
take a break here. Let's take a break here, and
we'll reset. We'll get Humillon on we come back hardcore
football talking about an emotional game yesterday, and I need
to be poring three k.

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Speaker 2 (11:49):
My hardcore football, Hugh Millon, maybe this here in just
a second, good to go? All right, Hugh, let me,
let's let's get into it. I don't want to bury
the lead too much because hardcore, we wanted, we want
you to be able to explain to us how things happened.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Uh, And.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I just want so bad to blame this on Anthony Bradford,
like everything that went wrong yesterday.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
But well the second, the second pick, you can absolutely
put a good bit of the blame there. I mean,
it's just a simple a stunt, uh, you know, tackle
and stunt, and you know you've got to be aware
that when the tackle goes away from you that the
end is going to come back to you. That's just
like basic stuff. I mean, just.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Watching I just watched it again and I bring that
up because you know who I was watching it with
yesterday and they said the exact same thing. They just
they like screaming at the TV like, like what, he's
an NFL He's an NFL guard, Like I just it's
it's mind boggling that, you know, well, that's just mind
boggling that that's what they have there. Like, I mean,
you're playing with four you're playing with four and a

(12:53):
half guys, and with with Zabel hurt and sounds like
it won't be season ending.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
But Haynes can't be plugged in. There is to be
your left guard.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
So let me let me go back to the first one, Hugh,
because you know, you know, we haven't played the game
at a high level. You have, but you know you
do hear this all the time commentators and other people.
Don't throw off your back foot. Don't throw off your
back foot. And on that play. First of all, was
Cooper Cup not held on that play?

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think he was at the very top. I though
it was one of the worst officiated games I've seen
in a lot of time, I'm not sure the way
the way it played out, the the back judge might
have said, I'm not bailing you out because what had
happened is I mean, and this is the thing about

(13:39):
being a professional quarterback. There's a lot going on, and
let me just explain some of it. So, first of all,
the coverage is called Cover one robber. Cover one means
man and man one means there's one free safety in
the middle. But the robber distinction. When you play cover one,
you can rush five and you can have five guys
man and man for the five eligible receivers, and you

(14:01):
can keep a free safety in the post. Okay, Okay,
that's that's rushing five. If you only rush four, then
that gives you an extra defender. And so what teams
play is a coverage called Robert. It's also called lurk,
it's called rat by some distinctions. And and the safety
you'll you'll show a too high presentation where you're seeing

(14:22):
two safeties. Then one goes deep middle and then kind
of one goes shallow middle. The low hole player. Okay,
so he so he's kind of looking up intermediate or
shallow crossing routes and what have you. And so they
play that coverage and and Cooper cup is off to
the left and he's gonna he's gonna he's got a

(14:43):
relatively tight split balls on the right hash he's gonna
take an inside release on what's ultimately going to be
a deep curl. Now, Cooper Cup, if he if he
had free access and the corner was off, I would
say a nineteen yard curl for Cooper Cup in his speed.
That's just way too that's too deep. I would rather
have it at seventeen sixteen to seventeen yards. He got

(15:06):
held up. He was, and he went from the twenty
to thirty nine yards. He got held up. And there's
a term he say, if you're held up shorting up.
I could come back on seventeen and a half yards,
but if you're held up, go fifteen yards like he
was held up. So there's no way he should have
been at nineteen yards. He should have been at fifteen
or sixteen yards at the deepest. And so so you

(15:28):
had that component. You had the component where the tight
ends both in the flat, and then you had Knine
sitting down over the middle. Well against that's a zone checkdown.
This is man and man. So that if you look
at Canine you'd say, well, burst one way or the other.
You can't just stand there. So you've got that part

(15:51):
of it. And then you know we had JSN on
the right side. You said well, where's JSN in all
of this? He was on the right side and he
runs a go route and initially Cam Kitchens had been
the safety of that side, so it looks like the
safety over the top. But but Kitchens then comes down
again to the low hole player. He doesn't really come
super low. It's kind of like the intermediate player. And

(16:13):
he's just kind of reading Donald's eyes. Well, okay, so
what happens with Donald's eyes? He's now he comes off
the cup but with the offensive line. Now your your
son keeper is going to know this in this is
a term that's generally used with an odd front. But
what you would say, you don't want both your guards

(16:34):
to fan out? What does that mean the right guard
and the left guard. If they go, if they widen
and expand away from the ball, that leaves the center
one on one with the nose guard. I'm watching it
right now. That's exactly what happened. Okay, Now that now
was an even front. But but that that that that
axiom that you don't want to have a uh fanning

(16:56):
with both your guards. You'd want to have at least
one guard set in there. But the Zabel, as you
can see, you're watching it. He he he fans out
the termins fan widen out to help Charles Cross with
Jared Verse. That's what happens when you get guys like
Jared Verse, who was the Rookie of the Year last year. Defense.
So now instead of double team and inside with Ola

(17:16):
a Timmy who's a better run blocker than a pass blocker,
and it's his first what second pass of the of
the game. Now Ola, Timmy's on an island and he
just gets trucked and and so now he's the one
that's creating the the space and Darnold has to retreat.
Now they say, well, don't throw off your back foot.

(17:38):
If if if there was a cup was open and
got separation and was coming back to the ball, and
if Kinchin's wasn't interceding into the flight path, he had
enough velocity that that that that wasn't what killed him
that he threw off his back foot, because the they say, okay,

(17:58):
well what if he would have thrown had had he
thrown had a natural weight transfer, it still would have
been an interception. So the throwing off the back foot
was not the problem. We've seen him and other quarterbacks
throw off the back foot it's just like in the
context of what and so, so it was Darnold coming back,

(18:20):
it was it was it was a lousy play for
man to man to begin with. It was allowsy with
the personnel, and and then moreover again, there's a lot
to playing quarterback. I could say this Cooper Cup. You
see his split is relatively close. Ye Wells on the
right Halse, the safety's on the opposite half, right. So
what happens is is Cup when he goes an inside

(18:42):
release and he already had a relatively tight alignment, he's
going up the field. Well, now the corner was fourteen, right,
wasn't Kobe. He is playing what's called he's playing outside leverage.
But that's that's a that's a horizontal distinction outside versus inside.

(19:03):
But then vertical, what's his vertical dimension. He's playing the
low now he can play the low soulder instead of
the high shoulder. If Cup had been way out by
the sideline and he's going vertical, well you wouldn't want
to let him inside, but you'd want to be on
the high shoulder above him to prevent the go route.

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But when you have when the receiver goes inside like
Cup did, and you have that much the safety is
that close to helping you. Now you go to the
low shoulder because you can undercut an inbreaking route. And
so this is all stuff Sam Darnold should have been
able to recognize and say, hey, it's not worth it, right,

(19:45):
like just just fold your cards and deal me a
new hand on second down and so that like, let's say, okay,
how are your quarterbacking coaching? Him got his first See
what was the problem. Why was cabin Kitchen's able to
to read your eyes?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Look?

Speaker 3 (20:02):
I wish Olo Timmy hadn't got trucked. Yeah, uh, you know,
but but he did. So we have to have an
RTP response to pressure. What are we going to do? Well,
we can't keep eyeball in there and then throw late.
I wish that that Cooper cup was you know, at
fifteen yards instead of nineteen, but he didn't. Okay, what's
our RTP? Like, we can't just sit eyeball eyeball all

(20:23):
knowing that it's eleven robber and that little whole player
can run and chase your eyes. So so that you know,
we're just breaking down one play. But there's a lot
to go into having you know, you know, a successful
operation from the quarterback perspective, And I'm just looking at
it right now. I mean Barner's covered as well.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Your only option would have been just airmailed over his head,
you know, like really like that's yeah, and just say,
like you said, to live to another day, Right, That's
that's the I.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Always think about the down when I see an interception. Yeah,
every time I see a pick, like, what was that down?
If I if it wasn't already in my mind, it's
quickly becomes in my mind, you know. Even he then
Russell Wilson's you know, the most pivotal interception in history.
Second down? Yeah, what are you doing on second? It's
second freaking down?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You know, like the down is key? Let's go the
second one again? This there is some pressure, right, that's
third and nine.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Third and nine. We talked about the stunts.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Go right, you're playing with four offensive linemen. I mean
you really are. Yeah, you are right. You're running a
spray release.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Ok. Okay, what does that means? So Jackson Smith and
Jig but he's going to widen as he's getting up
the field and he's got his inside foot back and
nine percent of receivers that when they run this this

(21:50):
the third inside step. They do it with the inside
step forward at the line of scrimmage and the outside
leg back. That that allows it to be a six
route instead of a seventh step route. And that timing is,
as you probably know, is very key, right, And so
I don't like the seventh step. I don't like the

(22:12):
seventh step, particularly when you're gonna get you know, in
the case in this case with pressure, the corner he
can sit there and he can squad on that he's
waiting on it, yeah, because he and and if you
do a sixth step, you just you're you're running in
front of him a little earlier and the corner has
to honor the deep route. So at an event, I

(22:33):
don't like. I don't like the philosophy of the seventh step.
And you know, you see that Darnald pauses, just perceptible
pause instead of putting his back foot, and then the
whole rhythm goes. You're you're trying to kinetic energy, you're
trying to transfer your weight is going back away from
lionet scrimmage. Your right foot hits and then you transfer

(22:53):
it for it. It's almost like a trampoline. You like,
you can it's easier to transfer that energy, but he
has to stop because he's waiting on that extra tick
of a second. So if I was advising these guys,
I said, well, what purpose are we achieving by going
seven steps? Virtually nobody else does this, and there's a
lot of things that can cause problems. So so, but

(23:17):
he still has got to see. You know, I can't
tell you the corner he that was a hell of
a transition by that corner. By the way, he was
knees in, started to bail, then then turned his hips
rotated back in. Nick Saban has all these theories that
he teaches his corners to turn his back and roll
out because it's an easier transition. Well, if you're arguing

(23:38):
against Nick Saban, you'd say, well, how about that transition
that corner. That was a hell of a play. But
you know, if you're from the Seattle perspective, he still
has got to see that squatting. It's third nine at
the minus thirty six. The score is nine fourteen to nine.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
And now he got smoked by on that. I mean,
he took it in the freaking Adams Apple and and
the NFL tracked it at two point one seconds. That's
really bad protection. And it's the person of Anthony Bradford.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
We have you had Lucas charbon A and then Bradford
goes over to help those two guys.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
And then the Sharbonne provided no help. No, but I
mean it's it was getting whipside, didn't he Yeah he did.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I mean there's a three on one and then and
then the guy, the guy comes through that Bradford's guy
right comes through and just smashes Bradford and there you know,
Darnald along the way. Let me let me wrap up
the Darnald talk with this you and then we'll move
on to some other things.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Just well, we have two more interceptions. But do we
want to get to him? I'm nauseated right now.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Okay, fine, let me summarize it by this. I think
as you, and this is why we like to do
hardcore football. Like, not all interceptions are the same. Not
all interceptions are one hundred percent the quarterback or one
hundred percent a receiver off his hands, what have you.
It's still a team game of loving guys. But you're

(25:02):
in the meeting room today and you're going through the
two we just did in the other four. I love
the minus minus world that we live in, like and
I love when you give me some grades. Are those
minuses minus double minuses? And is it a group in
collective effort because it sounds like it is the former
or the ladder rather.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah. No, all four of them are double minuses. Okay,
Now that doesn't mean that other people on the the uh,
on the field didn't get minuses. Right if I was,
if I was graating Cooper Cup on that first one,
I'd absolutely get a minus and and some some people
if if if it results in the interception, uh, you
know it, it's that that would be a possible double

(25:39):
minus on Cooper Cup. I think that if I'm the
head coach and I would just say, well, we we
that that was a bad that was a bad route
for that coverage, like they got us on that one. Yeah,
and that Chris Sula, you know, I mean the Rams
are that they are extremely well coached, They're fast, they're

(26:00):
rest of they hunt, you know, they play out a position,
but they can cover for themselves. They got a hell
of a defense. There were number two in the NFL
coming in the game points allowed right and number two
and a lot of others. The third down conversions number
one in the in UH fewest yards after after a
reception on the yak like like, this is a this
is a big time defense. And we we we talk

(26:23):
so much about about Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay and
and and this defense. You just every time I throw
on the tape, I studied them hard in the UH
against the Colts for the thirty thirteen presentation on Danis
Snyder and Dana Snyder I'm sorry, Daniel Jones, and so yeah,

(26:43):
every time I studied them hard in the Viking playoff game.
Every time I really put my my eyes on this defense,
I go, oh my god. They are just good in
every way, every way at all levels. Well coached ballers,
you know, nasty baller and so yeah, it's it's tough.
I want to ask you about.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
And I love the insight to get, you know, in
a huddle on a sideline with a headset on and
what's going on. You know, you and coach homgrenna give
us that insight that nobody else in the market has
because you've been there as a quarterback and a play caller.
I last I checked, I haven't called plays in the NFL. Hugh,
it's been a while, but I don't think I ever have,
so I can't speak to this. I haven't play quarterback,

(27:28):
but man, oh man, and help me out here. It
sure feels as if and there's got to be a balance.
There was a lack of true urgency, especially in that
last drive. And listen, the guy hits a hole in
one with a punt like that punt that ball on
a hundred times. You don't bounce it out where you
did it just they got frankly lucky on that.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
So you start the one, not the twenty.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
But nevertheless, that's where you're at, and you've got to
go probably sixty five minimum yards to have a legitimate shot,
not a sixty one yarder, but what have you. But
they get the ball with one four one left, and Hugh,
for the life of me, it just feels like there
was way too much time between plays, way too much time,
like just a lack of sense of urgency. Did you
see that or am I just am I just out

(28:11):
to lunch there?

Speaker 3 (28:12):
I saw that. I agree with you, and I think
that in the very next neighbor the next door neighbor universe,
that ball went into the end zone for a touchback
and the Seahawks won that game. I believe that. I
think there's a greater than fifty percent chance if that
thing's a touch back, Seattle wins that game. Now that's
just you know, coffee and beer talk. But yeah, what

(28:35):
did al Michael's once he sprung it on us. They
they are lacking, they are not playing with alacrity. Didn't
he say that regarding a team that was lolly gallery bagging,
you know, in a two minute situation. Yeah, I thought
that they should have been fascinating. You know, it's it's
for Clint Kubiak. He's trying to get into the perfect play.

(28:55):
He's trying to read the coverage a little bit in
the old days, not long ago, before the Green not
you know, it was the quarterback right that called it.
You know, he just up and go and uh and
you're more likely to just get into a generic formation,
just go as opposed to you know, let's get into
these bumps formations and and even motions you know, like
whoa no, no, no, no. So I agree with you. Yeah,

(29:18):
I think I think that.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Hurt what and what is and what is what is
in that situation because I was just I mentioned this
to Mark to Mark James beforehand, and that's why I said,
I'm gonna ask you this because you know, everyone's like
he was blaming Donald and others are like Donald's not
doing a sense of urgency. To me, it's it's an
operation from offensive coordinator to the quarterback. Gotta everybody aligned.

(29:40):
But the quarterback, like you said, it used to be
he would make those calls. Now it's coming through the
green dot through the helmet and you're maybe you're waiting
for the call to come.

Speaker 8 (29:48):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I would think you have the ability to say, you
know when even look at the sideline and see McDonald
like let's go, like, let's hurry up. We've see coaches
do that all the time, right, and it just feels
like the entire operation was working a little slow, and
as turned out, my god, you needed you needed ten
more seconds.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
In my experience, the quarterback is always ready to go always.
That's an absolute term. But I'm gonna say, you know
so maybe nearly always, but that you've the component. The
variables are this, what what's the speed? How fast did
the coach get the play to the quarterback with how
many seconds? How complex is the play? And the form

(30:25):
the formation, and then what's the hustle of the receivers.
Those are the components that that are are beyond the cue.
Quarterbacks control, right, and and and you see breaches in
all three of those. That's why I mentioned them, right,
But the quarterback is never the guy that's holding up
the operation.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Never.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
So yeah, it's got plays got to come in faster,
They got to be more just basic, you know, like hey, boom,
line up our bread and butter plays and and uh
and and the receivers have got to be a little
bit faster trying to get set. But it's more on
Clint Kubiak than anybody in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
And I mean it's amazing too, because the twenty yards
on a non touchback or a little more sense of hell,
you can make the argument a sense of urgency in
the series before where the scored a touchdown, right, you
needed ten or fifteen more seconds. And I think in that,
as you said, the alternate universe, ten or fifteen more seconds,
they probably win that football game.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, twenty more yards, I mean, and this may interest you.
I did the quick research, so I'm gonna just say
it so that in the entire history of the NFL,
there have been forty six field goals of sixty or
more yards. Forty two of the forty six have been
since two thousand and six. There's been twenty four since

(31:45):
twenty twenty four. More than half have come just since
twenty twenty and seven have been in this season alone. Yeah,
and we went from nineteen seventy the first sixty yard
or that's the Tom Dempsey half of fot kick. Yeah,
we that didn't get broken until twenty thirteen. That that's

(32:06):
forty three years and then we've seen this this barrage,
like honestly, the evolution of kickers. They are improving faster
than any other position on the football field. It's crazy
what these guys are doing. And by the way, you know,

(32:28):
Myers hit a fifty seven yarder in the game, used
to be like fifty seven yarders, I mean that would
lead the news, you know, and and so in any event,
it was just you know, just not quite close enough.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
No, I think I used to when I was at
the stadiums, especially Rosie, I'd watch those guys all the
time to see what they can hit. And so and
they have a spoted doing it for TV. They said
he had hit a sixty yarder in warm ups. I've
watched him. I've watched a lot of Jason Myers that
is very much at his limit, like like he doesn't
have the cam little leg. He just doesn't. So they
put him, they put him in a tough situation. I

(33:03):
saw a great analogy I think is my buddy Alex
Keitha said, that's like me standing on the t box
of a five hundred and seventy five yard par five
and thinking, I just got to give it everything I got.
You know, we end up doing towing it and it
goes on I like thirty five yards. They're not in
that game without his field goals before that.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Let's so yeah, I'm not going you know, And if
we were better in the red zone, he.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Hadn't let me do this. I want to take a
quick break. Want to come back. We got to talk.
We got some bouquets. As my friend Hugh Millan would
say at the Seahawk defense, they're pretty good yesterday, Hugh,
They're pretty damn good. We'll talk about that next.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Okay.

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Speaker 2 (33:52):
FM Hardcore Football fumail and continues. All right, So, just
the numbers looked like this, two for eleven on third
down they gained two hundred and forty nine net yards,
and I believe after halftime it was less than one
hundred and twenty yards right of offense in the second half.
I mean it was maybe in the final three quarters.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Hugh.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Like the Sam Donald stuff for the interceptions, all that's there.
But to me, the story of this game is what
the Seattle defense did against Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
It is and I think it's beyond just yesterday. I
think it speaks for those of us who have really been,
you know, proponents of Mike McDonald, the higher the philosophy
behind the hire that hey bring in a brilliant guy.
I as a Seahawk fan, I could not be more
happy with Mike McDonald who he is, the person. If

(34:47):
that matters, it matters to me, but most especially just
his defensive mind, his vision of how to play NFL defense,
his ability you know, not too much, not too little content,
it's it's it's damn complex, but just on the edge
that guys don't play slow. The adjustments that he makes

(35:09):
seemingly week after week, it seems like there their first
drive defensively is always their seemingly their worst, and they
just button things up. And you mentioned Matthew Stafford. I
mean Matthew Stafford has gone against Mike McDonald as a
Seahot coach now for two games, and in the last
two years he's gone against twenty coaches, So Mike McDonald

(35:30):
be one of those twenty coaches. Here's the rankings of
his stats against those other coaches. Some of those coaches
are one game in summer too, so completion percentage Stafford
against Mike McDonald of the Seahawks dead last, under fifty
four per yards per attempt five point one yards per

(35:53):
attempt in two games against Mike McDonald, dead last. That's
twentieth out of twenty uh yards per game one hundred
and seventy four. That's eighteenth out of twenty. Passer rating
seventy six passer rate seventy six passer rating. MS is
a guy that is is in almost any split you see,
he's a triple digit guy. Well against Mike McDonald's a

(36:13):
seventy six. That's nineteenth out of twenty third down conversions.
He's under sixteen percent on third down conversions fifteen point
eight percent, eighteenth out of twenty. And the only one
that got him was Aaron Pierce Antonio Pearson. Excuse me.
He must have had a bad game against the Raiders.
But in any event, yeah, I mean the numbers are there.

(36:38):
You saw, you saw the complete grinding to a total.
It was like it was like a tank in World
War One and like a four foot of mud. That
offense just like after the first quarter, they made some adjustments.
Ernest Jones was out of his gap on a couple
of thirty plus yard runs, one on it with a

(36:58):
lead blocker where he should have had the inside gap
on the B gap, and then on a stretch play
he needed the tackle as a bubble. What Keifer would
tell you that it was no defensive lineman he's gonna
come up. That offensive tackle is gonna come up to
the second level. Ernst Jones had to fight over the
top of that. He didn't. And then he had Kobe
Bryant on Both those have bad tackles, all right. So

(37:20):
he had two two thirty yard runs in the UH
in the first quarter and then those tight end screens
and then from that point on, I think that I
think that their uh, who's their number one running back?
He had he had fifteen yards the rest of the

(37:41):
in quarters two, three and four. I think it was
he was he was. He was like two point four
yards per tempt in quarters two, three and four. So
that ability to make the adjustment to make it life
rough on a on a on a Hall of Fame
quarterback who's having an MVP year and to just you know,
make him look like a August preseason quarterback. No, this

(38:02):
Mike McDonald's he's something. I'm all in on him, and
I think I think all of us aren't, right, I mean,
and who's got their hand up that doesn't like Mike
McDonald No, I mean, I don't know. I think you
have to. I think you have to be all in
on them.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I mean, I just like, like there's a I think
that I think when you get a great game, you know,
and I think in I mean, the outcome wasn't what
Seahawk fans wanted, but I mean it was an absolute,
like we started this thing off today, he just said
it was like a heavyweight title fight.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
It was just a slug fest.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
It was just back and forth twenty one to nineteen,
and you know, I mean there was ebbs and flows
fourteen to three, and you're like, oh, the Seahawks are
in trouble. You know, they get the only points of
the second quarter and a couple of field goals and
all of a sudden, it's close. And you know, then
you force you know, the two key three and outs,
you know, or you forced three straight punts after the
touchdown following interception number three. I mean, back and forth

(38:52):
they went. And you know, Hugh like, I'll just wrap
it up with this real quick. Watching like say, Sunday
Night Football yesterday and watching the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
And the Lions.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Lions offense without Ben Johnson doesn't look as good obviously.
I mean it's just different. We know, and we know
what a coordinator, what a different coordinator can make here.
We know that very well. That does look good. Jalen
Hurts is on the same page with his top two receivers,
to be honest with you, they look like they're and
Saquon Barkley is averaging less than four yards of carry
this year. Like I'm looking around the league, saying, I'm

(39:23):
still not sure if the two best teams in the NFC,
maybe two of the top four teams in the NFL,
but to the top teams of the NFC, I think
they played yesterday at SOFI Stadium.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I think that could well be the case. I think
that until we see Sam Darnold, this is gonna be
a long month for him.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
Yes it is.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
And it's almost like there's nothing he can do until
he gets back on that horse and he faces the
rams and he delivers. This is gonna be Unfortunately, there's
a millstone that nobody ever wants. I feel for the guy.
I like him. I think that he can. He that
he can. He can move forward and and and find

(40:04):
another big game and uh, you know, uh not be
a Steve Sacks. I guess that's to to uh arcane
of a reference, right.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
But Steve, for those who don't know, Steve Sacks couldn't
throw the ball from that second block, wasn't it.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
Well, Steve Sacks was the.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Second basement from the Dodgers that that was an all
star level second basement. Something happened and all of a
sudden he couldn't throw the first base and and he
could never I mean he saw shrinks and and he
essentially ruined his career did not from second base, and
so so so here, okay, what would why did I
use that analogy? I really don't think Sam Darnold is

(40:42):
going to go into the tank on this. No, but
now this is what what the the narrative is going
to be. There's three straight big games against the Lions
last year in Week eighteen, and then the playoff game
against the Rams, and then in this round that people
are gonna say the last three big games he's played,
it has not gone well. And so until he does

(41:03):
play well in a big game, you know he's gonna
have to shake that. My friend Gray stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
As always, I think you're on later on today more
at four with the Softy, So we'll hear from you
then at four o'clock today. But the meantime, thanks all. Then,
I appreciate it, man, thanks you. Okay, there that is
Humil and joining us. We're gonna take quick break, we'll
come back, Mike sand We're gonna squeeze. We're gonna do
a super segment here coming up. We're gonna get a
Mike Sando and Chris Crawford in all in one segment

(41:28):
coming up next.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
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(42:00):
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Speaker 2 (43:03):
Mike Sando joined us here as he does every Monday,
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We got, of course, the pick six column. I'm gonna
I'm gonna read the headline here. Mike Sando says, the
Rams exposed Sam Darnold again. Will he sink the Seahawks
Pick six well, that was the story yesterday, Mike. But
before I get to Sam Darnold, you wrote about Kenny

(43:24):
Easley today and I thought it was awesome because I
spent a long time since Kenny Easily dawned a Seahawks uniform.
But before there was Cam Chancellor and the Legion of Doom,
there was a guy wearing number forty five patrolling the
secondary for the Seahawks in the NFL with a very
unfortunately short career of only seven years. But when people
say to you, Mike Sanduel, and I think you might
have been involved right with his Hall of Fame stuff

(43:46):
when that was going down a few years ago. When
they say Kenny Easily, what do you tell people.

Speaker 9 (43:51):
Well, I think he was a transformational figure on defense
in the NFL in the early eighties. I sort of
group him, you know, with Lawrence Taylor in the Ronney
Lots I think Ronie Lots said it well that at
that time you were starting to get some of the
best athletes to be on defense. I think the defense
has always been about hitting, and so there's always been
big hitters in football, especially when they let you hit more,

(44:14):
you know, But back then there was a lot of
big hitters, but they couldn't run. They weren't as athletic
as some of the best guys on offense. And I
think that Kenny Easley packaged all of that together where
he had the you know, the every bit the tenacity
of a Lawrence Taylor, but also had the ability to

(44:35):
you know, run with wide receivers to some extent, a
great athlete who you know, he was a punt returner
for the Seahawks when they had injuries at that position.
So how many of the most feared hitters in the
league could average twelve yards of punt return right or
you know, It's just a kind of a unique combination.

(44:59):
I think a great athlete among great athletes.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Maybe people were afraid to tackle him. Yeah, yeah, I'm good. Yeah,
it was something else.

Speaker 9 (45:09):
And you can kind of see back then too, you know,
they wore the bigger shoulder.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
Pads because they really did they did hit, but.

Speaker 9 (45:14):
It almost highlighted just how like narrow his waist was
and just how athletic he was. I mean, just really
as good of an athlete that's played the safety position
in ANFL history.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Mike Sander joining us from the athletic pick six calm,
I want people to read the pick six calms, so
I won't go too far into it. So I'll just
ask you just you talk to people about the Seahawks
Rams and the Darnold performance yesterday. General takeaways from that
game and from Sam.

Speaker 9 (45:39):
Yeah, well, pretty good for the Seahawks. Amazing to be
able to be, you know, lining up a potential winning
field goal in a game like that. I think, you know,
both defenses really dominated. Just what stood out was the
fact that you know, the Rams were turnover reliant on it.
So in some ways you could say the Seahaws defense
was almost more impressive. But those turnovers are a real thing.

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And now Sham Darnold has ten interceptions on the season,
so he's gonna have to wait till the next big
game to prove that it's not a thing for him,
because you know, there's different types of interceptions. Sometimes you're
going to throw a couple, but when you have four
and they're hurried up and they you know, you look
a little jittery, and you had some of the history
he's had, you know, I think it's I think it's
concerning until it's not. So, you know, still a good team,

(46:25):
still one of the best teams in the league. I
think still can go deep, but you know he's got
to do better in those moments. You can't be the reason,
the primary reason. The game's laws.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, Hugh Millan brought it up a minute ago. It's it's,
you know, the next few weeks or one thing. But
what matters more than anything for Sam Darnld is the
rematch for these teams. Like he's got to find a
way to bounce back in that game. It's yeah, right,
I mean, that's that's the game that matters. That game
on I think it's December eighteenth. It is a Thursday
night game and both teams are coming off a big game.
The sex are coming off of Colts game and the
Rams haven't better. I can't remember who they're playing, but

(46:55):
they have a big game that previous week too, so
it's going to be a short It's one Seattle's got
to get.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
You think they would at.

Speaker 9 (47:03):
Home with the Rims having to travel in a short week.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Mike Santa joining us from the athletic. I brought this
up to Hugh earlier. You know, one of the things,
and you wrote about today that's interesting. You look around
the league and like what's going on with Ben Johnson
and what's going on and frankly, not just Ben Johnson,
but Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson that relationship and Kevin O'Connell,

(47:26):
JJ McCarthy and so on and so forth. Coaching matters,
But let's just talk Ben Johnson and Caleb for a second.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
And Caleb Williams. What is about that that isn't working
right now?

Speaker 10 (47:37):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (47:38):
Well, I mean I think that. I mean, I don't
know if it's not working. I mean, I think the
issue is that Caleb Williams, you know, wants to hold
the ball and I'm still learning how to play within
the structure of the offense and most of his good
plays are out schedule. Well that's true, you're going to
be inconsistent. So but I think he's better than he
was last season. And I think Ben Johnson's a good
match for him because Ben Johnson is all about account

(47:59):
of and I think that's what Kaller Williams needs. He
needs no escape doors and so, you know, I think
Ben Johnson can help get the most out of him.
But I think in the meantime it's frustrating because he's
used to having a little bit more of a controllable
or predictable player at the quarterback position. And when you
have that, then you can, you know, you can scheme differently,
you can build and grow your offense in a more

(48:23):
linear way. So I think that's the frustration there is,
just it's taking it going to take a while, if
at all, you know, for Kleb Williams to play more
within the system.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I love the Mike Sando indexes. Can you explain to
me the betrayal index, because I think that might be
the best name you have for any of them, to
be honest with you.

Speaker 9 (48:40):
So, yeah, betrayal index is basically, hey, if you're a
really good quarterback doing a great job, but you're having
a hard time winning because the things you don't control, defense,
special teams are especially bad, you are betrayed. You're one
of the most betrayed guys. So you know in history,
you know, Tony Romo was one of those guys. Drew
Brees certainly had great offense but bad defense. And the

(49:00):
years when he would throw over five thousand yards and
they would be seven and nine in New Orleans. That
happened multiple years in a row. So that's where the
betrayalal necks came from and this year, for most of
this year, Dak Prescott has kind of been that guy,
but Josh Allen is now right there with them. Six
touchdowns yesterday, But the defense of the Bills and special
teams for that matter, are not very good. So the
difference between how good he is on offense and how

(49:23):
less good or bad the Bills are in defense special
teams makes him the most betrayed quarterback in the league,
tied with Dak Prescott.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
It's a good go check the call him out because
the graphics have got it remarkable and you look at
some of those guys on that Okay, I've got to
ask you about what you wrote about the Chiefs and
it makes sense statistically, but then you look at the
standings in it doesn't. And the standings have the Chiefs
on the night as a nine seed, and just for reference,
seven teams make the playoffs in each conference, so they're

(49:50):
outside looking in at five and five. But in some ways,
are the Chiefs in twenty twenty five a better football team?

Speaker 9 (49:56):
Mike, Well, yes, they are statistically a better team. I
think last year they were so unusual and winning all
the close games. They were eleven and zero and games
just scored by you know, decided by one score or
that's they're zero to five this year. So to me,
they got the absolute best possible record out of how
they played last year, and they're probably getting the worst
record of how they played this year. So, you know,

(50:17):
sometimes you play well and lose, sometimes you play poorly
and win. I think they've played well and lost more
this year.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Would the Denver Broncos be the opposite of that.

Speaker 9 (50:28):
Yeah, I think Denver's totally the opposite of that. I
think they have warts on offense, and some of the
tough questions that are being asked about quarterbacks are in
the league are not being asked about them as loudly
because they just win every week. Good for them. I
just don't think it's sustainable. But it's eight in a row.
That's pretty that's pretty hard to argue with.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. It's we were talking.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
I'm just looking around and I think you and I
had this conversation last week. It feels as if there's
no true super team. You know, like the last few
years the AFC's had, you know, say a buffalo in
a Kansasy kind of felt like head and shoulders above everybody's.
Philadelphia feeling head and shoulders above everybody else. You know,
Philly is eight and two and the Rams are eight
and two. But watching Philadelphia last night, Mike, they don't

(51:08):
feel head and shoulders above the rest of the NFC.
The Rams, I mean, as great as they've been, Seattle's
defense kind of shut them down in the second half,
and it feels as if there is no sight that juggernaut.
I don't know what Vegas says in terms of who
the odds on favorite is, but this, to me is
enjoyable football. Maybe Pete Roselle's it's not quite Pete Roselle's

(51:28):
Everybody needs to be eight and eight the parody world
that he wanted, but it's it's still an enjoyable season
because you just don't know what to expect.

Speaker 9 (51:35):
I agree, I think. I think if you are one
of those teams that's good, not great, you feel like
you have a chance to have a great season and
you might be able to go all the way. So
there's not the feeling of the same type of roadblock.
There's no team that has that sort of mystique like
the Chiefs kind of had it last year until the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
All right, my friend, I want people to go check
it out the Pick six column. It's in The Athletic,
Theathletic dot com. You also wrote about should do were
Sanders and his NFL debut yesterday as well? Statistically not
the greatest day in the world, but I think maybe
in his defense, he hasn't seen a lot of time
with that one offense along the way, uh, with the
with the Cleveland Brown. So go check out what Mike wrote.

(52:14):
Lots of stuff on the Seahawks and the Rams yesterday
as well in that Pick six column. Thank you, my friend,
Thank you. There you go, Mike Sando joining us here
on the Beacon plenty hotline. We're squeezing a couple things
in today. We just have a get with it with
the josh nealan Is. I wanted to get a little
bit on Naylor after all of our Seahawk coverage.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Oh what's that sound?

Speaker 6 (52:32):
I like that?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Uh, and joining us on the Beacon Pummy hotline. It's
only been a couple of weeks, but we've missed him mightily.
Our good friend Christopher Crawford, one half of them molliwops
locked on Mariners postcast all things Mariners with us mile. Why, hello, sir,
how are you?

Speaker 10 (52:52):
I was doing better before I heard squeezed in. Now
I'm kind of feeling a little uh lit, little coster.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Yeah, little claustophobic.

Speaker 10 (53:01):
Yeah, I kind of feel like I'm being put in
one of the iHeart closets a little bit.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
But that's okay, That's what we do, so trust me.
It's part of the initiation process. Yes, Andrews knows that well.
All right, So the news breaks yesterday we got this
whole like what the hell Seahawks rams NFL Sunday blah
blah blah, and all of a sudden late afternoon, Hey,
Jeff Passon, you want a little piece of us on
a Sunday there from our ESPN Baseball insider, you want
a little piece of us and lo and behold before

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it even gets to the market, Josh Naylor looks like
he's not official yet. They got to do the physical
and all that stuff. But while all accounts, he's coming
back to Seattle. Chris, what does this mean?

Speaker 4 (53:36):
It means a lot.

Speaker 10 (53:37):
And shout out to my buddy Anders for making that
Seahawk game hurt less because he broke it while we
were doing the game.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Recap.

Speaker 10 (53:44):
I appreciate him so much all the time, but I
appreciated that one especially. This is just fantastic, and I
think honestly, Anders hit the nail on the head when
we were talking about it too, that it just says
a lot about what is happening going for and I'm
hoping this is true anyway. I think just getting this
done and having this wrapped up just says so much

(54:09):
about what they think of this team going forward, because
they're not going to be complacent.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
This was not good enough. Being eight outs.

Speaker 10 (54:17):
Away from doing something special wasn't the ultimate goal, and
of course it isn't, but it's nice to see them
back that up with this type of thing, to get
the guy who not only meant so much to them
in terms of production, you could just feel the change
in the clubhouse when they got that guy as well,
even as a guy who is definitely not allowed within

(54:38):
five hundred yards of that clubhouse, you could tell that
the difference between what this team looked like and how
this team just came together for that final two months
and then for those wonderful twelve games. I wish it
was more in the postseason. I just think it says
so much about going forward. It certainly helps to see

(55:00):
Mariners in terms of what they have offensively, it helps
them defensively, and we all know the elite makes shrending
as well from Josh Snaylor. But it's just one of
those things that it says so much. It is actions
being put into place that we just haven't seen from
the Seattle Mariners, and I love it.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Chris Crawford joining us here from a purely listen playoffs,
end of the season, all those things from a purely
baseball standpoint. With Josh Naylor, he was in Seattle for
fifty four games, and those fifty four games hitting two
ninety nine, three forty one four nine eight, thirty one

(55:40):
ops one thirty eight ops plus again remember one hundreds
good he's at one thirty eight along the way he had.
I mean, the remarkable thing was the stolen bases that
Chris was joking about, but it's true he had nineteen
with Seattle, which is nuts, nine home runs and thirty
three RBIs in those fifty four games. What are they
really getting with this guy over the course of an

(56:01):
entire season.

Speaker 10 (56:03):
Just a very solid baseball player, a guy who you know,
you take a look at him. He's a triple B.
He's a big beefy boy, but he's not. The power
tool is not his best tool. His best tool is
his hit tool, because even though this guy swings at
pitches outside of the strike zone all the time, he
just doesn't strike out. He was one of the very

(56:23):
best in baseball in strikeout rate last year. He uses
the entire field. He makes pitchers work like crazy because
he fouls off so many pitches. How many ten plus
bitches did we see from Josh Neander or at least
it sure seemed like a hell of a lot, because
the guy just fouls off anything until you finally make
a mistake. He is a solid defensive player. The stolen

(56:48):
based thing is an interesting one. I don't think you're
going to see that again because I think you're going
to see teams start paying attention to him. But great,
that's awesome because if you do that, then you open
holes for your defense as well, because you have to
hold on a guy more than you typically would and
pitcher's paying more attention. You know, losing focus having to
throw strikes to other guys is not a bad thing whatsoever.

(57:09):
The fact that Joss Mayler is going to make pitchers
think when he's on the basis is not something anyone
could have anticipated. He is not an elite hitter, He
is not an elite anything. But he's a very solid player.
And I think the best part about this is the
Seattle Mariners don't need just Niler to be an elite player.
They already have two. They have two upper echelon players

(57:31):
in Cal Rawly.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
And Julio Rodriguez.

Speaker 10 (57:33):
Then they have a very good player like Josh Naylor
and some other really good players as well. Obviously you
don't get to the postseason without them. But that's what
just Naylor is. He's just a very solid three to
four win player and there's no reason to think he
shouldn't be that for the next couple of years. Is
there a chance this contract ends poorly? Oh, my goodness, gracious, Yes,

(57:54):
the players of Josh Nailer's build and skill set typically
do not a terrifically But that's a long time from now.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
That's something to worry about.

Speaker 10 (58:05):
And we all know how contract age. I mean, that's
why Ian scientiated a big deal in iHeart. He knows
how those contracts that age. We just know how it
goes that money is not going to be the same
thing in twenty thirty two or whatever it is that
it is in twenty twenty five. So yes, there is
a chance that Josh Naylor is not a great player
by the end of that contract. But Josh Naylor is

(58:27):
really important for twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, when
this team has an incredibly important window, A very very
solid baseball player who fans obviously just loved it.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Yeah, he's only twenty eight years old. Turns twenty nine
next June, so yeah, I mean it's he's still relatively young.
I think two things won Chris just what it says.
It's just the message being sent. How do you change
the narrative? How do you change how people perceive you
as an organization? Well by not screwing around, by just
going out and getting this thing done. That goes a
long way in that and that's certainly huge. Let me,

(59:00):
I'll wrap it up with this. It'll become official soon.
Next step. Is Polanco the next priority or not?

Speaker 10 (59:08):
I think he should be. I don't necessarily know for
one hundred percent sure that he is, but he certainly
should be, just in part because you know, I'm not
worried about John Stanton's money.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
I'm not saying anything like that, but.

Speaker 10 (59:20):
I do think the fact that Jorge Polanco, as good
as he was, is not going to be looking at
a contract like Josh Naylors. He's not going to be
the Kyle Tucker Kyle Swerbert type of guy. You're looking
at a couple of years for twenty five to thirty million,
maybe even a little bit under that. That should be easy.
And clearly Polonko likes playing here. He would not have

(59:40):
come back here if he hated being with the Seattle Meritters.
I know the options weren't great, but there were some
other options there. Go get Polanko done, make him here
designated hitter who plays a little bit of second base
here and there. Jorge Polanco should be the priority. As
much as I love Gino Suarez, you have to, I think,
get Polanco done before he gets Ware's done.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I mean, it's a heck of a start to the
off season, though, is it not. I mean, it's a
heck of a start to your off season when you
can make those.

Speaker 10 (01:00:08):
A better start, no, And that you can't make a
better start no. And the fact that they have gotten
this done so quickly. Also gives the potal a chance
to kind of like, Okay, I have this done now.
I don't have to worry about the corner infield position
I have or excuse me, the first base position.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
I have that done.

Speaker 10 (01:00:25):
Now I can work on Polanco. Now I can work
on Suarez if he's willing to do more of a
team friendly thing to come back. I kind of doubt it,
but this is huge, and it gives them so much
ammunition to play with, and it just makes them so
much better for the twenty twenty six season.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
I'd wrap it up with this, Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
It seems like it also sends a message that a
guy like nail Or didn't even waste an eat. Now, listen,
none of us are naive enough to understand that his
agent didn't understand what the market was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
They knew what the market was, but the fact is,
before he officially got out on the open market. Does
say something that the guy wanted to stay here in Seattle,
and that hasn't always been the case. I know this
sounds weird mirror fans. After this great year we just
had here that has Chris helped me out. That hasn't
always been the case, right, Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Yeah, very very much though, And it was you know,
there's something to be said about how comfortable.

Speaker 10 (01:01:17):
He feels, and he's mentioned it a lot, that how
comfortable and how well he sees the ball at this
home ballpark, and that matters, right. The other thing with
Josh Naylor is too, this is a guy who's been
in a lot of organizations. He was traded from Miami
to San Diego, San Diego to Cleveland, Cleveland, Arizona, Arizona
to Seattle. I think that Seattle was smart to be like,

(01:01:40):
let's get you home, Let's give you this place where
you don't have to worry about traveling. That guy's been
traded in an awful lot and now he doesn't have
to worry about that. And it's great that he wants
to be here. It's great that the Seattle Mariners want
to be here. And Ian I can't tell you how
many people I have already said, I'm going to get
Josh Naylor Jersey. I'm going to get Josh Naeler Jersey.

(01:02:01):
He has clearly become a big part of this fan
base and justifiably so, justifiably so. So that's another thing
sometimes that things those things get a little overrated, but
it's awesome to see the fan base get rewarded with
a player that they really like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Great stuff, my friend. I have a feeling we'll talk
again soon. In the meantime, Where can people find all
your work app?

Speaker 10 (01:02:23):
You can find it in a lot of places, probably
NBC Sports and Lockdown Seahawks right now and Mayo WI
please check that out. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
I'm sure there'll be more news. We'll check back in soon.
But thanks for popping on last minute today. I appreciate it,
buddy anytime.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
But there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Chris Crawford joining us. All right, four nine, four to
five one on that is the still unrestricted free agent
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Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
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Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
All right, I'm back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
See I'm gonna read some texts four nine four or
five one two oh six. I do I truly did
not think this ownership of pay Naylor, but I'm happy
to be wrong. I'd love to spend this entire off
season being wrong. Go for it, route to be wrong,
in route to be wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:03:27):
Oh, I think they're going for it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Uh, I do know. It's hardcore football Monday from the
two o six. Just funny.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
If this was any other day, Naylor would be all
we're talking about I don't know, yes or no. It
depends on the time of the year. That was a
big Seahawks game. I think if they had just boat
raced Arizona like the week before, then yeah. But I mean, honestly,
outside of I mean, I think I said to Chris
what I would say, and I'd probably move on. It's
it's a great sign on a couple of different ways,

(01:03:59):
not just from a baseball's standpoint.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
It says a lot that he wants to stay here. Yes,
he was pretty vocal about that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Right, but he didn't go out on the open market
like and I say that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
I know there's rules and you can't negotiate and things,
and there's dates and all his agent knows what the
market is. He wanted to stay here, got paid, and
the where you go whatever that ends up.

Speaker 11 (01:04:20):
Being the biggest thing for me, isn't even like the
signing itself. It's the timing. It's the fact that literally
almost as early as you could do it, they ditch
done and they're like that. They said it was a priority.
I think a lot of people were skeptical when they
said that. But the fact that they got it done
right away.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
And kind of fits it kind of just tells you
a lot about where the organization is right now. Yes,
and it's one thing we've seen in the past, whether
one and done, get to the playoffs and we'll talk
to you again in twenty years or four years or
whatever it is. They feel obviously rightfully so. And when

(01:04:56):
I say, hey, I'm talking ownership, it's not just Stanton,
by the way, Stanton, it's Larcen the rest those guys.
They obviously have been convinced by the baseball people that
it's worth going out and spending this money and keeping
this thing going in the right direction. And that's a
good thing, keep the momentum going, all those things. It's
it's it's honestly one of the most positive things that
happened happened in a while. It also follows suit. They

(01:05:18):
did this with Castillo, Yes, and they did this with
Randy right, So you make those trades.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Andy had years left, they didn't extend you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Yeah, but you lose yeah Castia, yeah yeah, yeah. You
keep the guy around good yea where you go? I
mean worked out and it's perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
So well, it reflects what Jerry said at the end
of the season.

Speaker 8 (01:05:37):
I went down to you know, their press press conferences
that were basically huddled masses, and what he said is
the payroll that they currently had was where he anticipated
starting this next season, and so they could only grow
from there and the shows that they're willing to spend.

Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
I was get two.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
You shout out to my friend Jim Mora Junior for
our only win.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Of the week.

Speaker 8 (01:06:29):
Yeah, well that was a wharf up a week.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
We were we were one and three. That was the win,
one four, one and four, sorry, one and four, that
was the win. A three and two week by the
Morning show good for them, a one and four week
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the first half line, we would have been at least
two and three.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Oh well, we move on. I'm changing that. I'm changing
the philosophy. I'm changing everything.

Speaker 6 (01:07:10):
Let's go. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
I'm going Rams at home against the Buccaneers. I don't
think there's gonna be a falloff. I think there's enough
that went wrong in that game for McVeigh to get
his team's attention. I think they know they're lucky. They
won that game by really a Jason Meyers sixty one
yard are falling short wide right, they know that. I
don't think they'll take the Bucks lightly at all. I
think the Bucks are going in the wrong direction. Don't

(01:07:32):
like them, don't like the way they look. A lot
of injuries. I'm going Rams minus six and a half
at home against the Buccaneers. Fact four nine four five one.
By the way, that is Sunday night football.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
I love it. Facked four five one, Yeah, good Monday Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Your friends, the Niners play on Monday in a thriller
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Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
It's has nothing to do with us.

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Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
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Speaker 11 (01:08:56):
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Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
I like the thought about the faction, like you're just
trying to get a two. Yeah, trying to get a
little two for one in the in the in the economy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
All there. I think a good effort. It's a good,
good move on your part.

Speaker 6 (01:09:36):
Trust me.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
It's all automated. So even if Andrews thought it was
funny and gave you one of each, it doesn't work
that way. It doesn't work that way. Nice, try nice,
try to say, all right again, this is also one
of those ones I root to be wrong. Yeah, it'd
be awesome if the Bucks went in there and upset them.
That'd be kind of cool, awesome, that would be fantastic.
But I don't think that's going to happen. I'll say

(01:09:58):
what I said to you again. I just think those
are the two BA teams in the NFC that we
saw the other day. I think, and I think, even
with some of the injuries, I don't think San Francisco's
that far behind.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
This is just a beast man weird. If they had
Fred Warner and Nick Bosa, could you imagine, god, they.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
It'd be crazy, it'd be I mean, you look at Chicago.
Caleb can't throw, No, he just can't play. Sandels did
a great story today in his pick six, just the
off schedule stuff that he does, but throwing with timing,
you know, and and all that just doesn't happen. Tampa
Bay six and four, Just Green Bay yikes, yea, yea, yaye.

Speaker 11 (01:10:39):
Man, huh Like Jordan Love is just is not good.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
It's just not good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
How about Malik Willis coming in and immediately leading him
on a touchdown? Yeah, yesterday, like when Jordan Love got
banged up, he just comes in, goes, that's cool. Let
me lead you guys down for a little t D drive.
Thanks for coming. I mean, I mean, they get they
get a well he's played more, fairness is played more.
But yes, but I mean the Packers struggle to beat

(01:11:05):
the Giants yesterday, struggle. They do not look scary at
all and if Jacobs just banged up with the knee, right,
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I was gonna answer one question from the text.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
One I didn't answer a couple of this.

Speaker 6 (01:11:45):
This is God.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
This is where we are as Mariner fans. This is
where we are as meryor fans. Like no one feels
like they could have anything nice happen?

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
The text kept there like two or three texts coming. Well,
it's great we saw newhar but they're gonna get locked
out anyway, that's not till after twenty twenty six season.

Speaker 12 (01:12:01):
Which was right because if it's like a five year lockout,
then Naylor was here for like a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Decade, and when you're the World Series champions, you'll be
back to back.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
You got to call it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:11):
They're gonna win it next year, let's do it away.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
That didn't we they're going to win it.

Speaker 12 (01:12:20):
I guess there is a little bit of you and
a little bit of me that never felt totally comfortable
until he got the deal done with Naylor. But I
always thought he was coming back, didn't you. I felt
like because the alternative was like a disaster.

Speaker 8 (01:12:35):
Yeah, well Prizona really wanted them back, or the fan
base did.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
He has to he had to decide to come back,
and all things being equal, I felt like right that
if the money was there, right, he would be here now,
which is a big if.

Speaker 12 (01:12:48):
And as David Samson was on with us on Thursday
and said, look, you want him back, you better go
five years.

Speaker 6 (01:12:54):
And they went five years and they got him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Back and they good for them.

Speaker 12 (01:12:58):
I think it's great. I want more, though, than Josh Naylor.
I don't want to bring back the team status quo
that lost to Toronto. I will say this that six
months of Josh Naylor versus two months of Josh Naylor
might be the difference between winning ninety and maybe winning
ninety three, ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:13:14):
Two wins whatever.

Speaker 12 (01:13:16):
But again, they won the division, they had the number
two seed in the playoffs. They didn't lose in the
playoffs because they were a wild card team and didn't
get home field.

Speaker 6 (01:13:26):
That's not why they lost.

Speaker 12 (01:13:27):
They lost because the manager blew the bullpen, right, at
least blew the decision in the bullpen, And you're starting
pitching went in the toilet in the most important time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Of the year, and that won't change it, and that
won't change it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:41):
And the bottom of your lineup did nothing in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
So do you put plot in a resigned category? I'm back.

Speaker 6 (01:13:48):
I bring him back.

Speaker 12 (01:13:49):
I mean, obviously, for him, the money's going to be
a gigantic factor. I don't blame the guy for going
after every buck he can find. I'm really curious to
do guys what they do in right field at third base,
because the Williamson thing is the natural next step for them, obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
I don't think you want to pay.

Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
For the guy's got no bat Yeah, I mean, look,
I know he's a study.

Speaker 12 (01:14:09):
Yeah, I know he's a study defensively and all that,
but there's nothing there offensively, No, and there's nothing there.
I don't think Andrews that says that's going to change
much next year.

Speaker 11 (01:14:18):
No, No, I don't think so either. I mean, he's
an elite defensive player, but he's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Very a one trick pony in that regard, Right, So
that's the hole in your lineup. Yeah, if that's the
only hole in your lineup, but you get that defense
from him, then.

Speaker 12 (01:14:30):
Go get me a right fielder, and go get me
a massive upgrade at second base. Maybe it's Polanco for
the entire year. I don't know what they're gonna do
to bring up. Looks like more of a d h
to me, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Well, I think well he's got he should be and
Cole Young.

Speaker 12 (01:14:45):
Is your second baseman. No, potentially next year, where's Emerson Att?
Tell me where JP goes?

Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
Is JP?

Speaker 11 (01:14:51):
See, that's the big question I have. I think we
need to start having a shortstop conversation, thir.

Speaker 12 (01:15:00):
We've been having the shortstop conversation for the last three
years ever since Carlos care has signed down with Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Yeah, as a free agent. Right, So you're so role
blest can zone no your doubt you say no.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
I'm say no.

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
I'm just saying I think they can do bat.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
I think the outfield is what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
Probably right in reality, knowing them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
If they signed Polonko that that outfield probably is there
and they'll probably go Young at third base with Williamson,
Because you're right, because it's really young at third base Williamson,
Who's they'll go younger? Yeah, yeah, because that's at some
point Chris Larson and John san are gonna go, hey,
wait a second, Jerry, didn't we just get I just
pay I just give you money for Naylor Man.

Speaker 12 (01:15:37):
I've I've made the reference to the you ever see
the movie Cinderella Man, by the way with Russell Crowe,
that movie, great movie with Jimmy Braddock, avyweight champ back
in the day. I think you may have been fifteen
years old that I'll take. I'll take your where, great
great era. There's a there's a roll a decade. There's

(01:15:57):
a role played by uh Bart gm I his son Paul,
who played Pig Vomit in the Howard Stern movie.

Speaker 6 (01:16:03):
I know who, guys know, I know Paul.

Speaker 12 (01:16:05):
And there's a scene where he basically sells everything he
owns to give money to Russell crow so he can train. Yeah,
He's like, there's nothing else in my life that matters
more than you training to be a heavyweight champion. I'm
gonna sell all my furniture during the Great Depression, sell
everything you know Red deel Wigger who plays his wife,
goes over there to bang on the door, and she's
all pissed off that he's making him train. He's gonna

(01:16:25):
kill him and blah blah blah, and then she realizes
that man, this guy has sold everything to make sure
my husband can train to win the heavyweight Championship. I
want to go knock on John Stanton's door, have him
open up his door and there's like a stool and
there's nothing left because he sold all of it to
give the Mariners every penny they need to win a
World Series Championship.

Speaker 6 (01:16:43):
Because when he goes to vestment, I want him.

Speaker 12 (01:16:45):
To dream about the World Series when he eats his
cheerios or as cornflakes or his cinnamon toast crunch in
the morning. I want the cereal in the milk to
form a.

Speaker 6 (01:16:53):
World Series logo.

Speaker 12 (01:16:55):
Okay, when he looks up at the shot he sees
the clouds, I want him to see a World Series
trophy in the clouds. That's the only thing that that
guy should be doing. Everything he does, it should be
about a World Series title. Everything, well, they took the
first step yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
It all of it.

Speaker 12 (01:17:11):
What are you doing I want it all you remember
a little more for I heard your conversation with them,
thought it was okay, yeah, but I want a little more.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
You want more, So we got more for you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:20):
All right, A little fun with audio.

Speaker 12 (01:17:22):
We'll talk about any other reaction to the Seahawk loss
yesterday obviously, and then the game everybody's been waiting for.
Man Cowboys Raiders coming up at five fifteen to night
with Kevin Harlan.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
How do the Raiders keep ending up on national tee?

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Carroll Man, I'm telling you I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
It'd be one thing if it was a big market.
Of course, Vegas is not a big market. Think how
about how about this for an idea? Because you can
flex out Sunday night games?

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Right, I think you, Kim? Can you flex Mondays?

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
You think so?

Speaker 12 (01:17:48):
I don't think so. How about flexing Monday night games
the hell out of there? Put something else on. They
give fans a couple of weeks notice or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
I get it.

Speaker 12 (01:17:55):
You're changing days as opposed to times, But I don't
know we're doing the Cowboys last, not even flexing. Who's
Who's the Sunday game in two weeks?

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
It's the Commanders are on again on a Sunday in
two weeks and they're not even flexing.

Speaker 12 (01:18:07):
That one out to the boy, our buddy d H
Man geez, not good, all right, all right, well I'll
talk to you ether.

Speaker 9 (01:18:13):
Okay, But for the mild mannered and marginally objectionably Inverness,
this is paddle Day saying so long everyone,

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