Furness Show 2-18: Bucky Jacobson, Daily Power Play, John Lund.

Ian is back!   Bucky Jacobson joins the show to talk about his interview with Colt Emerson, what he's seeing at Spring Training, and much more.  Daily Power Play.  John Lund joins to talk about the similarities between the Giants and Mariners, the All Star Game dilemma, and much more.  Checking the Tullamore Dew Textline.  Dick Fain joins for cross talk.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome back. Hi everyone, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
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Cares?

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get you to. Hey, I'm back with Yeah, thank you. Hello,
Hi Andrews.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Hi, sorry about Valee.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's all right, and let me let's let's get work.
Let's get two things out of the way.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
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(01:00):
I got This is a funny way to start coming
back after week off. And this is not throwing you
under the bus. Usually when things aren't going well in
terms of like the behind the scenes production and music's
and opens and whistles and.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Bells and ah, you know, here we are for the I.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Usually look to Jess and say, because she's not here right,
she's like, she's like not even listening.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Not even listening.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Usually I look at you.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
She's got a lot of strengths, not always where you're sitting.
So how many times in the last she's been with us.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
What two years? Two and a half, two years now?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
If we're taping an interview, we're doing something, Oftentimes, what
do I do? I'll say to her, Hey, just just
grab Andrews. He's in the other room, he's doing someone
else's showdake it. And she gets really mad at me.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, I wouldn't have been able to fix this one.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I know. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Like, that's why I know there's something significantly wrong, because
I always think, but I'll go get Anders, No, I'm good,
I'm good. And then what I'll quietly do is text
you and say, hey, can you pop into Studio D
real quick and just kind of help us.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Out out here. No, don't, yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
But so if things aren't working for you, then they
just aren't working that's all right.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, I think I figured it out.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, we had two hours show today. I can't wait
one to three. Big thanks to everyone filling in. I
think it was you and Jess. A couple of days.
It was my man Chris Crawford for a couple of days,
Mike Benton, Mike Benton, everybody. I was just telling a
new guy here, my man Mark James is that his name,
new guy. I was just telling Mark new guy that
it was funny because I, you know, I would turn

(02:30):
the break.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I just kind of staycation.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I did a little staycation and didn't go anywhere, worked
on the golf tournament a little bit, the Mary Maple
Valley Open, kind of tried to tune out a wee
bit and uh, and just just kind of got away
from the day to day world of sports. But I
did I did laugh because I think Mike Benton and
I are the only two guys that work for the

(02:54):
Cracking or work on Crack and broadcasting that aren't somewhere
tropical right now. My friend Allison is down in Florida.
Our producers and directors Ones on a cruise, Ones overseas
in Europe.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
JT. Brown and Everett.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I think we're both in various times, Disneyland, disney World.
I was like the one guy that did. Me and
Benton were the guys just kind of hanging out here.
Now Ben's got kids there in school. I don't. I
have kids, they are not well ones in college. But
it was just sometimes, now, I don't know how you
guys feel. Sometimes you just need a little staycation, a
little reset. And that's exactly what I've done for the
last oh five six days. So but it's good to

(03:30):
be back, Good to be back in the seat. Big
thanks to Mark. Mark sounds great doing the ten to
MJ and the Midday sounds great. Going to tend to
one every day. And here's what we.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Got coming up today.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Bucky Jay Kris was going to join us from Mariner
spring training here at one twenty and then a daily
power Play. At one of the daily power play, we're
going to get into the great Question Answer, Question Answer,
a little back and forth with Softy and toddlight Wiki
yesterday and Softy's President's Station, and that was just a

(04:02):
really interesting look inside what is being thought of and
talked about at Kraken headquarters. And I've told this many
times on the air. Don't think for a second that
anybody over at Kraken Community ice Plex out there in
Northgate is in any way, shape or form okay with

(04:23):
how the season's going, okay with being just okay, is
complacent in the thinking of, Hey, we'll build this thing
over the next five or six years. That's not what
they're thinking. And I love that train of thought. He
did touch it on the NBA real quick with Softy
and Tim Booth was down there covering the All Star weekend.

(04:44):
I just want to give a big middle finger to
Adam Silver in the NBA front office for a second.
I just want to start there, because there was some
anticipation for a lot of people in our area. And
that's why Tim, that's why the Time sent Tim down
there to cover the All Star weekend down in the
Bay Area at this weekend to talk. You know, Adam
Silver's gonna have his news commerce to have a media
availability with the commissioner in which you have nine questions.

(05:06):
They're all screened prior, and not one of them has
anything to do with the future of the league and
expansion outside of a brief little snippet on maybe playing
in Europe. Just kind of a gutless but it probably
epitomized and summed up NBA All Star Weekend as best
it could. Worthless on every single level, including the availability

(05:27):
the commissioner. Now, I think Tim wrote this, I'll tell
you this. I know Todd li Wicky mentioned this with Softy.
Do not fret if you're a Sonics fan. Do not
feel a need to despair. If you're a Sonics fan.
This thing is coming. It's chugging down the train tracks.
There are some things going on behind the scenes that
are rather interesting. I think Tim mentioned the fact there

(05:48):
could be a competing group, not just the Kraken ownership group.
I don't know how in the hell that would work.
When the crack and control of the building, it seems
far fetched. I can't fathom them building another building like
on the East. I've heard rumors about that. That would
seem to make no sense. And especially you're talking about
that point upwards of a ten billion dollar investment between

(06:09):
the franchise fee and a new building. I don't see
that happening, but you never know. And if that did happen,
then we're looking at four years down the road, bare minimum,
and every day that ticks by it's further down the road.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think they're coming. I think they're coming.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
With the Kraken ownership and others involved, kind of a
duopoly here with the two Winter sports franchise is a
perfect scenario, a perfect storm, and I think it's coming
in twenty twenty seven. I think all those things are
going to happen. Just a little disappointing in the NBA's part.
I think Adam Silver could have answered the question from
the guy from the newspaper of record in the state
of Washington. It would have been nice. But hey, yeah,

(06:44):
you know what, we move on. You know why, because
we've got two other things going on. We'll get to
spring training in a second. We'll touch in on what
an absolutely phenomenal thing the National Hockey League has stumbled into,
this four nations face off, face off, four nations, four
nations face off tournament that I can tell you this

(07:05):
inside many people that do this on a daily basis,
this being hockey, there was not a lot of excitement
for almost everybody was kind of in the same like,
I can't wait to get a couple of weeks off.
It's been great, you know, the season's kind of compacted
it's been a grind. It is turned into much watch,
must watch TV, not just because of Saturday Night and

(07:26):
what happened with Canada US, but even the two games
before that, it's been phenomenal. It's how you do. It's
best on best. I don't think you could ever get
that in the NHL or the NBA. I should say
I did see that some guys talking, well, you know
if it was the US versus the world, Well, the
world doesn't have any pride. You don't have any you're

(07:47):
not playing for There's no such thing in the world
or even Europe. You know, we've seen those things before.
You're playing your ass off because it says Sweden or
Finland on your jersey. If you're not from the United
States or Canada. That's why you're playing hard. I think
this is the unique sport where it works best on best,
playing for your country middle of the season. There's a

(08:09):
lot of debates about doing the back on the World
Cup and doing it at the start of the season. Again, sure,
I don't know if that I get you don't want
guys to get hurt. But I'm telling you, for the
fourth of the four major sports leagues in this country,
this thing has been in a massive boost.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
And I think it's going to be a big part
of the reason of the sports massive growth over the
next couple of years.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
When you go with the Olympics next year, yes, and
all of a sudden you've got and that will be
truly best on best because you'll get other best on
best playing dry tidles and others of the world that
aren't playing check ya, what have you. Then it's gonna
be better. But this has been a huge thing, whereas
the NBA, and this isn't just an NBA thing. And

(08:51):
I know this is kind of like a badge of
honor that many sports radio guys use all the time,
and I don't use it that way.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
But I'm just gonna like.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I I don't watch a second of All Star things.
We had the All Star Baseball weekend here or week
here two years ago, right, you're a year and a
half ago, you and Jess and I went to the
Were you with us up there?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I know Ben was other. We did not go. I'm sorry,
get me to pick a scap but we.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Went to We went to home run Derby and and
we're there and I went to the start of the
game itself and I bailed. I was like, I just
don't care because nobody can. There's nothing at stake, nothing
matters here. And that was with the NBA, like it.
You can tweak it all you want, it doesn't matter.
Nobody cares, and you're not playing for anything. This thing

(09:37):
has turned into something that's completely different. People are laying
I mean they're they're not even caring about the rest
of their season.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Like they care more about this. They care at the NHL.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, and which I'm sure much of the chagrin of
many NHL gms and coaches. But for the growth of
the game, it's been fantastic. Uh It just you know,
we've we've we've jumped the shark in all sports. I
think with All Stars. You know, Baseball tried and I
know people rushed it. Baseball tried with the whole you know,
playing for home field advantage and stuff.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Right, do you think if they switched to more of
this type of format, So just you know how they
have the World Baseball Classic and that's a huge success. Yeah,
they made that during like a two week part of
the season.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, I think that'd be awesome to be honest with you,
but I don't think you could. I think the difference
there is this the pitchers. Yeah, I think because of
usage last Bucky about that. It's actually a good question
asked because he's going to join US auple minutes because
I think.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, I hadn't thought of that, Andrews.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
But we were in I was working in Portland still
when we went to I think it was the first
World Baseball Classic. And we were lucky because we were
doing our show from the booth in Peoria. Yeah, my
co host Jason Skanak and I and we were in
afternoon Drive, so started at four o'clock. We're there from
four to seven and or yeah, four to seven, four

(10:51):
to eight, whatever it was. But we were down there,
and Japan was using the Peoria Complex to work out
and practice before the tournament started, and so is there
and putting on a clinic. I mean, I don't exaggerate
and I say there's a couple hundred media people there
when we're doing a radio show for a baseball practice.
There was so much pomp and circumstance and hype around

(11:12):
that it was really cool to see. It's really kind
of a fun little thing. But I don't think you
could you would have that same pride that you just
talked about. But I think with the usage of pitchers,
I think that might be a hard thing to do
in the middle of the season.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I know this too.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I believe this to be the case, and someone can
prove me wrong, but I think it'd be hard to
It's very subjective opinion. But I think as well that
the Dominicans, the Puerto Ricans, Japanese, Japanese, Koreans, doesn't matter.
I think that they care more about the crest like
playing for their country in terms of baseball than the

(11:50):
US does. Because USA baseball is a thing like if
you grew up as a really good basketball player.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Let's use Paul ban Carroll.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
He's playing on the U seventeen U eighteen teams for
USA basketball early on, right, so he's played so.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
That that means something to him.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Hockey it's everything, Yeah, it is everything, and then some
soccer it's everything and some right, But.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I don't think that's the case in baseball.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I don't think. I don't think so. So that's a
good question. We'll ask Buck you ye. Speaking of Bucket,
he's going to join US next he's at spring training.
Chucking Buck him and down. They're doing a terrific job.
The last couple of days. We'll check in with him,
get the storylines, get an update what's happening with spring
training Daily power play at one five John Lones will
spread his joy and sunshine. We'll talk to him about
All Star weekend, which was in his hometown. We'll do

(12:35):
that coming up at two o'clock today. Your text four nine,
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two and a half weeks away until the first pitch
of the twenty and twenty five Major League Baseball season.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
I got our next guests pulled up on the comras here,
and I can hear the pops of the mits.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
The pops of the mits that we hear the scuffling
of the the spikes across the pavement as they make
their way out of the practice field. Our man, Bucky
Jacobson down there. The Chuck and Buck show has been
crushing at the last two days. I'll worry, my friend.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I am good, I am good, Thank you for having me.
And by the way, that's not the popping of the gloves.
And oh, that is the tamping down while they fix
the mounds. Oh oh, tamping the dirt down where they're
camping foot lands, a little tamping it down?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Is that a real world? Is that a real real word? Tamping?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Tamping?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Sure it is okay, all right? Baseball word, I don't
think so.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Or Bucky word English Bucky word tampamp, tamp something down.
I'm not used saying stamp.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
I looking it up.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Tamp.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
We're doing a work chef right now. Tampero. Uh, kind
of a busy day. The last couple of days for
you guys, it's been awesome. I love the fact that
you get the skipper on right away. And I got
to mention this one because I don't know if people
were up early. I'm sure you guys might replay it
at some point over the week. But I was in
the car doing my little knee physical therapy appointment this morning.

(14:42):
I'm driving in and I pull in at seven o'clock
on I hear Colt Emerson on with you, and I
was thinking to myself, like, who are they talking to?
Because until I heard like a like a just like
a reset, I'm like, this guy sounds like a twelve
year veteran.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Who is this duke?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're making it sound like he's in his first camp,
which he was a source of Major League camp all
these things.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
How impressive is this guy?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I mean, I don't think I've ever been as impressed
with a young person for those types of reasons, right,
I mean, it wasn't that long ago that we were
talking to Julio for the first time or Jared Keelnick
for the first time, and how I watched them play,
like what it was that their game, the physical avocats
of their game was something else, but you're talking about
just the maturity beyond his years. I mean, you know,

(15:30):
Cole Emerson's nineteen years old and yet has an unbelievable
feel for how lucky he is to be where he
is as far as getting to play a kid's game
for a living at this point in time, understanding that
it's a blessing. He's thankful for those that are rating
him as the number one prospect in the Mariners organization.

(15:51):
I mean, there's a publication out there has him like
fourth overall in all of baseball, right it was, Yeah,
which that's kind of superstar status right there. I mean,
if you end up fulfilling that now, there's stills a
ways to go. So but he understands how lucky he
is to have that. But he also doesn't put a
lot of weight into it because it doesn't mean anything.

(16:12):
It just means, hey, we think this guy is going
to be good at some point in time. You combine
that with then you know he's kind of very faith based.
He just kind of I believe that. You know, if
I just continue to put my nose to the grindstone
and I put the work in that, you know I'm
going to wind up being good enough to be an
impact guy. You ask him, you know, where do you
want to play? He's like, wherever the team needs me.

(16:34):
I just might You know, my goal was to get
drafted and to get to play professional baseball, and you know,
I want to win and I want to win a
World Series and it's whatever I can do to help that.
It's a lot of that is, you know, just kind
of you know sports talk, right, I mean, it's just
something that people say, they hear somebody say and they're like, oh,
that's really good. I'm gonna make sure I write that down.

(16:54):
This kid, it was genuine when he was talking about
who he is, what he believes, where he comes from,
and why what he's doing feels like it's what he's
meant to be doing. It seems like it was coming
from the heart. I mean, I don't think I've ever
been as impressed after talking to someone that is I
can safely say as a kid, he's nineteen years.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Old, Well help me out with because after that you
had you had seven three at Cole Young on right,
and it feels like Cole Emerson, Cole Young, a couple
other guys like their top four prospects are all listed
as middle infielders.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Where do you see these guys shaking out? And Young?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think is I had in terms of just the
timeline of Emerson, But where do you see these guys
at this year and how far from the big leagues.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Of those two guys, well, I think Young is probably
the closest, right just because yeah, he finished the year
in double A last year. But you know, there's still
there's there's there's time that is probably going to be
before he bursts on the scene. I don't know. I
think that if you were to ask, you know, with
some truth here him, is there a chance that he
could like break with it. I think there's a possibility

(18:01):
that's not necessarily because he is really that close to
being that ready. As much as it is, you don't
know for sure what you have over there second at
this point, So I mean, I think you combine all
of it, he's probably the guy that's knocking on the doorstep.
But I mean, when it comes to cold Emerson, I
don't think that it's a long time in the waiting.
He went from a ball last year and then went

(18:23):
and played in the Fall League, which I can tell
you is a substantial jump and hit three seventy in
the Fall League. So it doesn't look like if he
would have went there and hit one seventy in the
Fall League, people would have been like, Okay, well, that's understandable.
He jumped from a ball to the Arizona Fall League.
That's a pretty big jump. You're facing a lot of
guys that are double A guys usually, and if he

(18:45):
all of a sudden was to struggle back way he's
nineteen years old, that's understandable. He just kind of has
to go through some of those growing pains, but he
kind of just approaches the game in a way that
is beyond his years at this point.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
And Seliston's also nineteen. He's the number two prospect and
there's system twenty four overall. Cole Young we mentioned number
forty five in the top one hundred for the athletic
He's a middle infielder. There's not gonna be room for
all these middle infielders, right, So who moves around? Is
there an outfielder in that group?

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Well, I mean, I think if you're athletic enough to
play shortstop, you're probably athletic enough to play anywhere on
the field. So moving somebody to the outfield would be
a way of doing it. I mean, it's not hard
pressed to think of either one of those two guys
shifting over to third base if you know shortstop is
still taken, or if short and second are still taken.

(19:34):
I mean, they have to they have some work to
do before they're going to be ready probably to be
contributors at the big league level. I mean, they're young,
they haven't played at the highest levels yet to kind
of go through the ups and downs that you need
to do over the course of a full season and
do it for a couple different years before you can
kind of prove that you know yourself can kind of
grind it out for one hundred and sixty two. But

(19:55):
I mean, I think the idea of if you can
have a bunch of crazy athletic youngsters that can pick
it at short, you'll find a place for them. I mean,
if they can pick it at short, they can pick
it at second. If they can pick it short or second,
they could probably do it at third. Rarely does a
guy's arm play at shortstop and it's not strong enough
at third. There's a lot of times where that shortstop,

(20:17):
any of the deep throws where you have to be
crazy athletic to get to it and get rid of
it crazy quick. Those are more difficult. You need more
athleticism than even that third base throw, the longest one
that you could possibly have.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Our guy, Bucky Jacobson on Chuck Pal they're down to
spring training all week long, every morning starting at six am,
with some great interviews and spring training.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Coverage under way.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
You asked, I thought it was an interesting question you
asked Cole Emerson, a question that honestly, it probably could
have been something he could have asked and should have
asked you. And it was this. You said, Hey, what's
it like major league camp? How is it different? You know,
you were there, You were a minor league invite a
lot of times and then finally got, you know, the
major league camp. So how different is it for these
guys going into and maybe explain the difference, because I

(20:58):
think people are like, wait a second, they're all down
there spring training. What's the difference. What's difference between the
major league camp minor league camp? And what are the differences?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
You know better than anybody, Yeah, I mean minor league
camp versus big league camp is two completely different animals.
I mean up here at the big league level, for
the most part, most of these guys that have been
there and done that, they know what it is that
they're supposed to do to get ready for a season,
and so you're kind of going through the motions. I
don't want to say it's straight up going through the motions,

(21:26):
because you'll do the reps at eighty five ninety percent.
It's not just flat out lollygagging, but you don't really
do a whole heck of a lot of them. I mean,
the days are shorter, they're not as intense, the level
of intensity is way down minor league's. On the other hand,
you're running from one drill to the next, and you know,
let's say you're doing rundowns. They're first and thirds. You're

(21:47):
gonna do it for half an hour straight, and if
you mess up a couple of times, coach is gonna
be barking at you. And it's just kind of more
of a we're weeding out the weak links, so to speak,
and so they just are really on you about doing
it the right way, because if you do it the
right way for those two three four years in the
minor leagues, now when it comes time to go through
the motions. I say, quote unquote, you know what those

(22:10):
motions are. You're doing it, you're getting your reps in,
but you're not having to go balls to the wall.
So I mean, the difference between minor leagues and big
leagues is crazy when it comes to the intensity. But
then there's the there's also there's nowhere else to go, right,
I mean, the only place to go is down once
you've reached the highest level. So if you're an established
guy that has a contract, there's zero worry.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Right.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
These guys show up and they look like they're out
there just having the time of their lives, you know,
joking around and having fun while they're getting their work in.
If you're a young guy, like a cold Emerson for example,
that you know he's got a very mature mind, but
at the same time, he still is nineteen years old,
and he's all of a sudden playing practicing with a

(22:53):
team of guys that are the best you know, on
the best platform is at least the level of the
best in the world, and all of a sudden you
have to be thinking, Okay, well, I want to compete
with these guys, but I also just want to absorb
whatever it is that I can. And he was mentioning
how JP's kind of taking him under his wing and
how he's kind of showing him the ropes, and which

(23:14):
is a great sign if you have veteran guys that
aren't intimidated or scared that one of these youngsters and
come up sniper their job. But instead you're just like, hey,
it's my turn to pass on the things that were
passed it down to me when I was a youngster.
It's a different it's a different beast. So, I mean,
I remember walking into my very first one and seeing
Edgar Martinez and I was just starstruck, you know, just like,

(23:36):
oh my gosh, I'm gonna go the other direction. And
I walked all the way around the clubhouse looking for
my locker, only to find out it was right next
to his. So at that point I had to say, well,
I'm just going to rip the band aid off. Hey, Edgar,
I'm Bucky Jacobson. I grew up a Mariner fan. You're
one of my idols, So if you find me staring
at you, it's not because I'm weird. And He's like,
all right, well, great, cool, nice to meet you, and

(23:58):
went right back to Pinehart and his bats. So it's
one of those it's such a big deal when you
get there for the first time, when you get to
the big league spring training for the first time, because
it is a milestone achievement. It's an accomplishment that you
have been hoping for and dreaming of and yet really
in the grand scheme of things, like that interaction I
had with Edgar, it's just another day at the yard,

(24:20):
is what it really is supposed to be. It's a
day show up, and this is your job. Go figure
out a way to get better today. And the best
of the best, the guys that have been there and
done it for a while, that's exactly what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
That's a gre's great story.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Bucky Jacobson with us down in Peoria, Chuck and Buck
all week long down there with Mariners.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Cover starting at six am, great interviews.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
All right, you talked to the skipper, what's your and
we're only one day in, right, today is the first
actual full full squad workout, but you've had a chance
to lay eyes on things going on down there and
all that.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
What's the biggest thing for Dan Wilson.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
We saw him in a small sample size in the dugout,
but running a spring training is a totally different beast
starting at the star or the season, totally different second
time they've done this, right, I mean Scott Servis had
no experience doing that before either when he got here.
Former catcher, So what are your impressions of Dan Wilson?
What are the things that you like? What are the
things that you're really gonna kind of keep an eye
on that I don't want to say concern you, but

(25:14):
you'll have questions about well, I mean he's.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Thirty four games into managing career, right, I mean he
hasn't had a ton of time calling the shots in
game situations. Now, there's not a lot that you have
to do. But if this offense is gonna make a
change that I would like to see, it is that
you do implement a little bit more stuff that is
going to come from the bench. You do a little
bit more bunting. You instead of saying, well, we don't

(25:38):
want to give up an out to move a guy
to third, even though that you can score nineteen different
ways from third that you can't from second, we don't
want to give that out up because then there's pressure
that the next guy might strike out. Okay, fine, there's
also a chance that the guy just hits a fly
ball and you end up manufacturing a run. Those are
things that I'm gonna be fun. It's gonna be interesting
to watch how Dan implements that, how he's going to

(26:00):
to scrape together a few more runs because he knows
that this is not the murderers Row, This is not
the most potent offense by any stretching imagination. And yet
with that pitching staff, you just have to scrape together
ninety extra feet here and there, and those can turn
losses into wins. So that's a big thing. I'm gonna
be interested to watch and see how big of a

(26:20):
change he implements when it comes to their strategy of
how to play and manufacture runs. I think a big
thing we've heard from a couple different guests so far
is that he's really hammering home that we're getting ready
for one hundred and sixty two game battle and he
doesn't want to hear well, it's still early. He doesn't
want to hear that early. Every game counts. They all

(26:41):
count the same. I mean, there still is inevitably you
could be in June and you could have a ten
game leader, a fifteen game lead, It doesn't mean anything.
You still have ways to go to finish that thing off.
But they don't want to get into some sort of
complacency of you know what, We're gonna go out there
throw our jocks in the field in April and who
cares what the record is. It's still early. And he

(27:02):
seems to be really hammering that home in their meetings,
because we've heard two or three different guys come out
and mention that as a point of emphasis for him
in this first spring at the Helm.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, I mean, it's it'd be nice if like the
center fielder had a good start to a season, because
we know what he's capable of. It's just always kind
of feels like it takes It's almost like a it's
like a big car. It takes a little while to
ramp up zero to sixty, you know, like like it, And.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
But I liked I love that attitude. I saw that.
I heard a couple of guys talk about that.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I love that, Like, like you missed the playoffs by
one game each the last couple of years, you make
it by one game three years ago, two years ago,
Like those games do matter in April and May, and
I do kind of like the sense of urgency they
hear from all right, lasst to get to you this week.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Before I let you go, I want to ask you
this question. We're just talking about this.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
In the first segment, hockey stumbled across something with this
four nations face off tournament that has turned into this
massive success, huge TV numbers.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
People are talking about it.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Canada US is gonna be nuts on Friday, on Thursday,
and it's in lieu of the All Star Game. Andrews
brought this up because we're talk about World Baseball Classic,
like baseball could use a jump in the you know,
a little jump start as well. Maybe along the way,
he asked me about doing the World Baseball Classic middle
of the season like the NHL is doing. I think
it'd be great and be fun, but I can't see
it happening because of the pictures and the strain and

(28:17):
how you know, how we treat those guys with you know,
I mean, I know you love this topic. How you
know pictures are traded with kid gloves these days, but
but is that something you can see happening. We're we're
playing for your country as opposed to an All Star
game replaces an All Star game.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I would have a hard time thinking a movie no
baseball as being probably one of the more slow to
adapt the type of sports, right, I mean the history,
the the you know, traditions and stuff like that. And
ultimately I don't mind the If there is a game
besides hockey that is played and has to be played

(28:52):
near one hundred percent effort, it is baseball. I mean,
you can't step up to the box and play equivalent
to what we see in the NBA, what their defense is, right,
you can't play defense like you. You you go play
baseball like that, you're gonna get hurt and and and
bad things are gonna happen to you. And so I
don't know for sure if the game is going to

(29:13):
be changed, because I think it still is played. You know,
it's a it's just straight up, it's the American League
All Stars against the National League All Stars usually, and
and that's the way in which it always has been.
I think that the the other games, or the contest,
the home run derby and stuff like that, I think
is something that I wouldn't want to lose. I think
that's a fun spectacle and you usually do have. It's

(29:33):
not like you have the McClung, you know, it's not
like you just have a bunch of no name guys.
Usually in the home Run Derby, right, it usually is
some of the big boppers that you want to see
go out there and put on a show. And obviously
I'm biased to that. That's one of my favorite things
to do in the world, was compete in Home Run Derby.
So I don't want that to go anywhere. But I
mean the idea of the World Baseball Classic being moved

(29:54):
somewhere in the middle of the season, I don't hate
the idea because the fact that they do it now
the every the year and it's during spring training or
right at the beginning of the season, to me, that's
more harmful to pitcher's arms than doing it in the middle. Yeah,
if somebody already has a little bit of wear and tear,
or they're they're on pace to break a wrecord or

(30:14):
an innings pitched amount that you don't want them to surpass,
then you don't let them pitch, or you do, and
it's very little. If he's starting pitcher, you run them
out there for two innings and that's all that he's getting.
I think that you could you could kind of still
protect the guys from some of that. And anytime you
can implement country versus country, I think that you're going
to have a boost in the ratings. I mean, you know,

(30:35):
some of the sports in the Olympics are obscure. I'm
not watching the biathlon by any stretch of imagination, but
I do still like to see the US flag on
top of the podium.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
No, that's a that's you know what, the easiest thing
to do. Just go back to wearing your normal uniforms
home and away. Yeah, star game. Yes, I don't know.
That's just the kid in me, like I just give
me that. Just go back to that, please. I haven't
feel they're gonna I hope. So, hey, great job down
you guys are as you do every year. You're just
absolutely kicking ass. So keep it up and something.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
I do have a tamp definition ramp or pack a
substance down or into something.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Probably I don't know why I was even questioning that
Lewis and Clark education.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
That's right stupid to me to do.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
So, right that, you know what, Just for that, I'm
going to tell more of the Lewis Clark State Warriors
to go up to the Wazoo and steal kegers, steal
kegs from.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yukub more as if they do it already, We did it.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
We did. It was a fun pastime on Fridays as
we go up there and and go into frat parties
and steal their kegs and then we had beer for
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's the only time I remember actually somewhat feared for myself,
not because of that, but at a baseball game at
the we used to go to baseball games all the
time when the weather was seemed to be better in
the spring back then. For some reason, Bucky and go
out there and uh, you know, we had a brawl
a couple of times with Lewis and Clark in the stands.
Everything else like, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Like, this is bad, this is not good. I remember
that said, such bullies down there a chef's.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Wife, and so Ed says, go get them boys. Send
the team up in the into the stands.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Weird, so weird, you fit in so well there. I
don't know how, I know, crazy, how that works. Keep
up the good work. My friend will talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Thanks Furnish appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Is Bucky Jacobson down there at Spring Train. We'll come back.
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More on them in just a second, big thanks to
Isakua Anders the Kraken. Are they a playoff team this year?

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Technically it's not determined yet. What would you what do
you think regard I would say it's not likely at
this point, mister Furness.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, they're not if we're being honest. They're eleven points
out of a playoff spot and they've got gotta be
like under one at this point zero point eight, okay,
and so that's under one. There's four teams between them
and Vancouver, which holds down the final spot. Vancouver has
two games in hand. They played fifty five sales play
fifty seven. They're not a playoff team. It's not gonna
happen this year. They'd have to go on a hell

(33:35):
I mean a hell of a run, nine game win Street.
It's like twenty twenty two, let's go.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
So that said.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yesterday, during his annual President's Day show, Dave Sautee Maller
had Krack and CEO toddlight Wiki on and he asked
them about where this team is right now and looking ahead.

Speaker 9 (33:57):
I think we have thirty six prospects in the system
out and so we're really excited by that because we
early on made a decision that that was how you
were going to build long term competitive team. Having said that,
we're ready to win now too, and we've got a
press just a little bit harder. I love the free
agents we picked up. It was hard losing our captain

(34:18):
Jordan Eggerley, who's been going for most of the season,
but actually was down skating with the Firebirds over the
break here. So all in all, I feel pretty good.
But you know, we have an ownership group that wants
to go faster and get there sooner, and it's going
to be an interesting finish of the year. And I'd
say going into season five. That's when you know, a

(34:38):
lot of folks said, here's we're going to be a
sustained playoff team.

Speaker 8 (34:41):
And that's what we expect, is that we're.

Speaker 9 (34:43):
Going to have a team that doesn't just make the playoffs,
but stays in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
There's a lot there to chew on, which we'll probably
get too later this week. And I did see a
couple of tweets when I was gone, people wanting in
the hockey oop. We'll probably do something Friday getting ready
for the second half, into the second half of the season,
but the stretch run, including the the trade deadline is
March seventh. The reality is this what you heard him
say there, I think is encouraging if you're a fan.

(35:11):
We have an ownership group that wants to get this
thing going faster. They're not patient.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Good.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I don't want a patient ownership group in any of
my sports, including a Spanish expansion franchise. It's only four
years into business now. Please don't be the person that says, well,
tear it down, rebuild, blah blah blah. Huh, what what
are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Yeah, I think there's this in I think it's not
just in hockey. They do this with the football team too.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
People people like love throwing that out there and let's rebuild.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Oh yeah, let's let's let's kind of punt on next
year so that we have a really good team.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
There's no guarantee with that, no, and and you can
re you rebuild if you have nothing. And there's a
couple of NFL teams I mean that that would fall
into that category every year.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
But what team has that worked for?

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Not many?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I mean Detroit Detroit Lions.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, okay, but but it took a lot and they
had a franchise quarterback that they traded and then they
drafted well and I mean they and they built that
thing back up. Seattle has six really good defensemen. I
think five will still be here after the trade deadline.
But they've got guys in the system. They're good on defense,

(36:28):
they're good in goal. They've got a number one goalie.
There's teams that don't have a number one goalie. They
got a true number one. Hell, Nashville's number one goalie
got lit up twice in the damn four Nations. Like you,
you're fine there, You've got good young players, right, gets
better every day. Copple Cocko's a revelation. There's a lot

(36:49):
going on. They don't have guys that can score. They're
gonna move guys to the trade deadline. They're gonna be
active in the offseason again. The cap goes up next year.
But get a guy, Go get a guy, whether get
me an aircraft carrier, Go get a guy.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Mitch Marder, Miko Ranton and Tube. Guys that I look
at that are okay agents.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
The Rantindom thing is an interesting one. How did he
look playing with the fellow finn from uh from the
Crack and mister Koppolcoco in the last two games like that?
I wonder if that's a selling point to him. I
know Todd yesterday talked about facilities here and play you
want to play here.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
No state income tax.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
That's huge for more money based huge huge.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
That's a ten percent raise roughly over a lot of
other states. No state income tax, incredible, facilities, players treated
like kings.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
They spare no expense. They'll go go get some guys.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
But I would just say, as they get ready to
start the next part of the schedule leading up to
that March seventh trade deadline, be encouraged if you're a
cracking fan.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
For this reason.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
You've got an ownership group on the hockey side. They
are not complacent. They're not gonna make the playoffs this
year more than likely, but they're not gonna stamp pat
in the offseason. And he talked about year five. I'd
be stunned if we're sitting here next year, stunned if
we're sitting here next year outside looking into the playoff race,

(38:18):
four teams in between you and a zero point eight
percent chance to get in. They'll be in the mix
next year. All right, John lind Our, good buddy from
the Bay Area, is gonna join us. We'll talk about
All Star Weekend, talk about the changing landscape of the
NFC West, Cooper Cup.

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you again five o'clock on Thursday. Justin Turner has signed
with the Chicago Cup. So the last gasp effort for
the Mariners to improve something at first base. If you

(39:35):
would call Justin Turner improvement and did you call an improvement?
Maybe maybe gone six million dollars one year deal.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
See what else do I want to get to?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Let's it.

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Speaker 1 (40:12):
Hello, John Lund.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (40:14):
I got something for you, man, because I did something
on my show this morning and then you just you
just triggered it to me with this whole Justin Turner
thing and maybe you've talked about it, maybe you have it. Okay,
good afternoon. First of all, but I think this thing
where the Giants and the Mariners are in a very
mean I'm in San Francisco. The Giants and the Mariners
are in very similar places, and I really think that
for the Giants, for example, they hired Buster Posey of

(40:36):
you know, it's like hi An ech Row or something,
in the front office of the Mariners after they just
had a disastrous general manager who was a complete dork
and numbers guy, an idiot and all this kind of stuff,
and so they tried to win the press conference by oh,
oh look it's Buster Posey. But then they're not doing anything.
Now they got Williat Domis. That's a little different, but
they are screaming for more offense. And so when you

(40:57):
get it, when Vlad Guerrero tell the Toronto Blue Jays
today at the age of twenty five. You know, I'm
not gonna sign all. I mean, that's a leverage ploy.
He probably still wants to sign. But if i'm the Mariners,
because I said this about the Giants, and I feel
this way about the Mariners too, because they are even
more offensively inept, you have to call the Blue Jays
and say, and call Scott Morris's agent, say, look, whatever

(41:20):
deal he said no to from the Blue Jays will
do like we're that Deffert. He's twenty five, he's awesome.
I don't care if it's four hundred million dollars.

Speaker 10 (41:29):
That's it. Like, we will do the deal.

Speaker 8 (41:31):
And then what happens is Boris starts to put pressure
in lights of fire under the Blue Jays and he
does one or two things. Either the Blue Jay say, fine,
we'll sign it to the deal, or the Blue Jays say,
no way, we're not going to do it and they
trade them to the Blue Jays, or excuse me, to
the Mariners. And now you have a twenty five year
old first base and that's going to mash forty home
runs and your fan base is into it, and all
these different things it's not just about the money. It's

(41:52):
all these different things that are going on. The Mariners,
the Giants, teams like that. You have an opportunity to
get a twenty five year old guy who's gonna hit
forty home runs and you sit on your hands, which
tells my fan base Giants or Mariners, we don't want
to win that. Our star is the field. It's called
T Mobile Ve and Sea. All right, the star is

(42:13):
T Mobile, people will come out. The star is the turnstiles,
The star is the beers and the food. The star like,
we don't want to win. Because there's Blad Guerrero at
twenty five in your dying for offense. Do the Marrigers
make that call or not? Or because this morning all
the Giants are laughing at me, they're.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Like, that's gonna break. Great question if they don't.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
But if they don't want it, if they won't make
the call, and if they won't say, whatever Boris wants
to give, Blad will give you. And then you know,
the Marriage have a good farm system, much.

Speaker 10 (42:43):
Better than the Giants.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (42:45):
All of a sudden, it's like, look, do you want
to win because here's a twenty five year old kid
who's going to hit home forty home runs for you
for the next ten years. He's generational. People will come
to the park. There's all these different reasons to go.
And if you won't make the call, then what do
you do on?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Well, what are you doing? Here's the point.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
And it's funny because my my producer Andrews, whispered in
my ear when you were starting this conversation that what
you call the Giants the NL Mariners, the NL mirror's
National League Mariners.

Speaker 8 (43:13):
They totally are. And the only difference is in both
ballparks are beautiful and everything. But I say this all
the time about them. They the star of the Giants
is not a player. It's Oracle Park.

Speaker 10 (43:26):
If you've ever been here, it's on the water Picturesque.

Speaker 8 (43:30):
They have the best probably the best food menu, and
up in Seattle it's very similar, one of the best
beer menus. Like, the Star of the Giants is not
a player right now, it's it's the park and the
turnstyles and the concessions and all that stuff. That's the star.
That's how they look at it. And they just want
to do it enough to keep the turnstyles moving and
make you believe that they might win, but the difference

(43:52):
with the Giants is that they're in the same division
with the Dodgers, so they're never going to win that,
and so they have to turn around and compete with
ten or twelve teams in the National League for Wild
Card every year, and the Diamondbacks and the Padres are better,
and it goes on and on and on. So they
don't even try, and they hire Buster Posey to basically
deflect the madness of the fan base. And it's the

(44:14):
same thing with the Mariners, like what do we do here?
Like how do we do?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Like next year?

Speaker 8 (44:18):
Each row is going to be the GM just because
it's like, well, here's you know, here's here's the human
shield that you can all yell at you won't get
mad at.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Well, they did that, but they did with the manager.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
They hired Dan Wilson, who is one of the most
popular players of all time, and they brought Edgar back.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah, that's exactly what they did.

Speaker 8 (44:33):
But that's what I'm saying is that they're gonna have
these these human shield deflectors and people already here already
turning on Buster and I'm like, it's not Buster. He
doesn't have the purse strings here, Buster Posey should be
able to call the Blue Jays or call Boris more
So and say, look, whatever four hundred million dollar contract
the blue Jays won't do, we'll do because we're that desperate.

Speaker 10 (44:53):
But they won't do it.

Speaker 8 (44:54):
And then people that I was talking about to talk
to you today were just laughing to them. They would
never do that. It's like, but you're a major mark.
Seattle's not a small market.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Well how does how do but how does that work
with San Francisco?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Like because when like I know, listen, sales are not
a small market, they're media market twelve. Their media rights
and the fact they are Nara Santa screwed up and
all that, but they they most teams in Major League
Baseball because the appreciation value and the revenue sharing with
local TV money and all that stuff can afford almost
anybody they want. Maybe not on the level of the Dodgers,
but most choose not to. Why do the Giants choose

(45:28):
not to? They're in media market? What are you guys?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Four or five?

Speaker 8 (45:31):
Or and get? And again, I know I want to
make this more about Seattle because that's what people care about.
It here just kind of a Compton the Mariners. So
at the a's leaving town and the a's work relevant
for ten years anyway, The markets go like this, New
York's one, they have two teams, LA's two, they have
two teams, Chicago's three, they have two teams. The Giants

(45:51):
are the single largest entity, single city entity, in all
of baseball, and yet their payroll is fourteenth, their revenue
is sixth, and their payroll is fourteenth. They're thirty million
dollars under the tax line and they still won't do
anything about it. I mean, it's just it's it's frustrating,
but it's But it's the same thing with the Mariners

(46:12):
because the only reason I started on this tangent was
you were talking about Justin.

Speaker 10 (46:16):
Turner, forty year oldes I know, I know.

Speaker 8 (46:19):
I mean it's like, I mean the right like what
do you you know? It was what's the movie? I
think it might have been like office Space or something.
It's like, what do you say you do here? Like
what if the Mariner's front office do? Like what do
you say you do here? Like?

Speaker 10 (46:35):
Can you describe it?

Speaker 8 (46:36):
Because you have the most inept offense in the league
with the best rotation in the league. Which you don't
get very much, and you did in the off season.
What and then Vlad Guerrero right before the season becomes
basically available, he says, no, I'm not going to sign
an extension. Now, some of that is leverage because he's
telling the Blue Jays he won't sign during the season,
so he sets a deadline, which is just pure leverage. However,

(46:58):
if you're the if you're the Giants, the Mariners, any
team that is starving profits and there's a twenty five
year old that's gonna masch forty home runs and you
don't make the call, then what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Well, here's here's what they're here's what they're doing. You'll
tell me if this doesn't sound familiar with cover Baseball
for a long time. So this is this is the
theme in spring training. And I'm trying. I'm trying, and
trust me, man, I'm trying to be I'm trying to
be positive. I'm trying not.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
To be that guy.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I know that's why we work together in our friends.
But I'm trying to be positive. But my god, I
could have written the scripts weeks ago. We get to
spring training. Here's the thing, everyone's gonna play better this year.
We didn't have to add anybody because all these guys
that were awful last year and regressed, they're magically going

(47:45):
to reappear and be good again, not like maybe age
or the things haven't taken their toll on these guys,
so there's no reason to do that. Oh, by the way,
we have this great farm system. We go back to
that for a second, because I don't believe. For first
of all, we're banking on Victor Robles, Randy Rose, Arena,
Jorge Polanco all being good players this season. We're banking

(48:06):
on a utility guy being an everyday second baseman who's
never proven to do that, or a four A guy
doing that at second base. We're banking on JP Crawford
staying a healthy and b looking like a legitimate major
league hit er. All these things like a lot of ifs,
But they've got this great You mentioned the farm system.
See now you've pissed. Now You've got me all fired
up in mirrafans, because what you should be doing, instead

(48:28):
of pumping the tires of all these double A guys,
cold Emerson, Cole Young and all these other dudes, trade
those guys to Toronto. Bring this guy in invest in
the product. But John, much like there's a self imposed
deadline for Vladimir Guerrero that really means nothing, there's also
a self imposed deadline for the baseball team of what
we can spend and what we won't spend. That means

(48:48):
nothing because it's just their money and their budget. There's
no sut unless something change helped me out here. I've
been on vacation. Is there a salary cap now major
League Baseball? Did that change?

Speaker 10 (48:57):
Well? And here's the thing too, No, don't realize this.

Speaker 8 (49:00):
It no is the answer. But the other thing too,
is like in the NFL, just and again, people's eyes
roll back in their head when they when we talk
too many numbers. So I don't want to get too
deep here, but in baseball it so in the NFL,
I like to liking it as stretchy pants. You can't
wear stretching pants in the NFL because the line is
the line. There is no you get.

Speaker 10 (49:19):
Penalties if you go over the line or anything.

Speaker 8 (49:21):
You have to be in compliance of the cast in
the NFL. So that's it. It's like skinny jeans in baseball.
It's like stretching pants. Like if you let's say for
the like right now, the Dodgers payrolls there's going to
be three hundred and ninety three million dollars, so they're
going to be one hundred and fifty over the tax line.
They'll get taxed fifty percent as multi time offenders. But
the first time you do it, you're twenty percent over.

(49:43):
So just for the sake of conversation, and I'm terrible
at math, but so you get your your five million
over the whole tax so they just it's twenty percent
over that. So you can go over it and over.
It's not bad like the NBA has.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Terrible.

Speaker 8 (49:56):
Is terrible if you keep going over it and they
start taking picks and they start they start looking at
your team and going, okay, you can't build your team right.
It's not like that. In baseball. It's barely a slap
on the wrist with a ruler you can go over.
So that it's like you said, you just talked about
a self imposed deadline for the team not to make moves.
It's also a self imposed line. The Giants make oodles

(50:17):
of money and they've decided to be thirty five million
dollars under the tax line, which is so ridiculous. At
least go up to it and then and going over
it really isn't that big of a deal. You can
go under it and then it resets again. But the
whole point on the marriage, you've mentioned a keyword right
there that it is just kind of a theory of mine.
And it's called the if theory. So if you look

(50:37):
at your team in any sport, and it's if if
if you're gonna suck. So like if you go back
to like the Seahawks back in the day when they
were winning championships, you didn't say if if. You just
said they're gonna do this you just mentioned And it's
the same thing here. It's if this and if that,
and if my first basement, and if my starter, and
if my reliever, and if my short stuff, and if
this guy stays healthy and if this four a guy

(50:59):
comes through, Like you just mentioned like eight ifs on
the Mariners. If you have a lot of if you
have like three or four ifs, you're probably in trouble.
If you have six to eight ifs, you're not making
the playoffs. Mean, it's just the if they're and it's
a real simple one. And there's a guy like I said,
who with Guerrero. It's not only a financial things he
can do for you, but the great thing about a

(51:20):
master in the middle of your lineup, he makes everybody better.
So all those ifs you just mentioned, like he takes
care of not only himself, and what he does in
the middle of the lineup, he makes every hitter better
because they know he's coming up.

Speaker 10 (51:32):
Well, if there's no one in their lineup.

Speaker 8 (51:33):
Where you're just like, oh God, that guy's coming up,
we better pitched to this guy. That's what baseball is all.
That's why like when you play the you know, I
mean the Dodgers are terrible because they have everybody, but
a great offensive team is you never get to take
a breath ever, And in baseball, because you have relievers
that have to stay in for three hitters. If they
don't get that one key hitter out, all of a sudden,
you got three or four in row. They're going to

(51:54):
master your head off in the games over, Yeah, they got.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
And that's what they've got though, you're right, I mean,
Seattle's got me all of a sudden. How much better
of Cal Rawly and and Huio rodrig Right with that guy?
I mean, now, you've got every Mariner fan here pissed
off right now, by the.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Way, because.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Because first base, which is if if if if at
first base, if it's second base, if it's third base, go.

Speaker 8 (52:15):
Around the diamond, and if you say if if if if, if,
your team's gonna suck. And the thing that that that
me and you I think are really similar in this way.
We're both in the West Coast. We don't want to
be pissy. We're not East Coast people. We're not cynical
by nature, even though you maybe you are, but I'm
not as much. But but we but our teams make

(52:36):
us cynical, like I can't trust you can't trust the Mariners.
You know, a lot of times when you have good teams,
you like, okay, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt,
and most times they're right. But like in my in
this market, I know, the Niners just went six and eleven,
but by and large they're pretty good and they get
the benefit of the doubt. The Giants get no benefit
of any doubt, kind of like the Mariners do there,
so you get cynical and their belief and it's the

(52:58):
same thing down here for the Giant. Well, this guy,
you know, this young guy and this and this and this,
and it's like, hey, if you take it, if you
have one or two young guys who you wanted, okay,
you got to give them a chance. There's a fine
line between like can you give this you know, young
guy a chance. You gotta try, But they've got to
be around guys who are who are solid, like a rotation.
If you have three vets, you can have a young

(53:21):
fifth starter who can take some lumps, but you can't
have four of those guys. And that's what the Giants have,
Like they have a forty two year old Justin Berlander,
three really young guys. And by the way, still Robbie Ray,
thank you for taking Mitch Haniger and Robbie Ray. John.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I can't believe you brought up don't even bring up
the Hannier race.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
That's just that's just wrong that I don't think the
mitches up here. Mitch is square garver slash hannigher. I
mean you just took him back.

Speaker 8 (53:58):
You got rid of them, and then you took him back,
and it was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Both of those guys averaged over a strikeout of game
last season and just we're absolutely awful. Robbie Ray Meanwhile,
all looks like he's back. That's cool, that's great. John
lun joining us, John lon unleashed every day. Hey before
I let you go All Star weekend in the Bay Area.
Like while then, while the NHL is stumbled, and let's

(54:23):
be honest, and I love the hockey. I worked for
the team, they stumbled into an absolute gold mine. Man Like,
like this Four Nations tournament has been unreal and ratings
are through the roof. The players give a you know what,
and they play like it. I mean three fights and
nine seconds and you know I mean, guys, are you
know Charlie mackavoy for the Bruins may miss the rest

(54:45):
of the season because he's playing that hard in that game.
I mean, it doesn't these guys are going balls to
the wall.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Meanwhile, the NBA tries something new every single year. They
get the news, Yeah, Sabrina and Escu and Steph, they're
not going to do the shootout after wall, so nobody
care about Saturday. And then the Sunday game. Your guy
Draymond's killing it, then people are killing him. What kind
of fiasco do you guys have going on?

Speaker 8 (55:07):
Down, there's a disaster. A disaster starts with well here's
what you hit it right on the head. They found
a way for guys to care about the game. And
so Lebron James, like an hour before they All Star
Game goes, yeah, I'm good, I'm not gonna play it,
like dude, what are you doing? Like okay, literally an
hour before and he's such a lazy ass that they're

(55:30):
doing pictures before and he can't even be bothered to
put his uniform on. He's gotta backwards hat some jeans
on to do his All Star photog and I'm just
looking at this guy going could you care any less?
You know, like every guy there is just like, oh
my god. And if I'm an advertiser, this is where
this is the only thing that will save All Star
games in general outside of hockey, is that if Because

(55:52):
let's say I'm Budweiser for the sake of conversation and
they're like, Okay, you're gonna buy the big things of
the NBA Playoffs, cool finals, awesome All Star game, and
it's like what what? So I get Indiana on Denver
on a Tuesday night, Like I'm not buying this stuff, man,
So until you start to get Lebron James to care,
any of these guys to care other than money, then

(56:15):
I have no interest in it. And to do that,
you know, you don't want to do a baseball did
like Bud Seely, you know, home field advantager. It's these
kind of things. It's just can is it too much
to ask? And I know I'm just some average jackass,
But is it too much to ask to care? Is
it too much to ask to come out? It's the
one fan game a year. Can you just act like
you care whatsoever?

Speaker 10 (56:35):
Nope?

Speaker 8 (56:36):
Lebron's at a press conference an hour before the game, going, yeah,
my foot kind of hurts. I'm just not gonna play.
And it's like, dude, they don't play hard like you said. Anyway,
you're gonna jog up and down the floor for five minutes.

Speaker 10 (56:47):
You can't do that.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 8 (56:51):
And they're not even doing full games, dude, they're doing
a forty minute. They're doing until forty like you're out
there ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Do they still have the do they still have the
rule that when when you and I were working in Portland,
Portland and in Salt Lake, because remember remember Carl, Carl
Malone hated the All Star Game and and he was,
but like everyone else in that era, played like like
Michael Jordan was gonna score one hundred on you if
you could like that, like those guys play.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
But remember, Carl was the one guy that just like,
hey man, I don't want to go. You guys all
name me gonna go.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
You gotta tell me that I'll go hunting, fishing, you know,
hang out with my twelve year old girlfriend whatever, and that,
you know that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
That's true, Anders, that's true. Don't look at me like that.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
Twelve year old girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Well she was.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Twelve when when she got pregnant, right, the girl anyway.
So so like he said all those things.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
But remember remember what they did.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Though, there was a rule I must not exist anymore
that if you missed the All Star Game because of
an injury, Carl, you had to miss at least a
game or two after the break. Now, I guess in
today's NBA doesn't matter because those guys take games off anyway.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Right, He's like, oh yeah, they.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
You're gonna send my break. I mean, what you know
what I would do, honestly, is if I'm the commissioner,
I just say, look, how many how much for you
to all play and to play hard? What do you need?
Like do you need because money doesn't do it? Like
they're like, oh, it's gonna be one twenty million dollars
to the to the winner. So the eight players who
played on the one team got like three hundred thousand
dollars a piece. Steph Curry makes about seven hundred thousand

(58:22):
dollars per game. I mean, these guys don't care about money.
You cannot motivate high paid professional athletes with money. What
you can do is say to them, okay, Lebron, for
you to grace us with your presence for five minutes
of jogging up and down the floor of King Exactly.
How much time do you need after the game? Do
you need two weeks? Do you need ten days?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Like?

Speaker 8 (58:43):
What exactly do you need? Because we need you to play,
you know, because we have major advertisers who are like, great,
I get the finals in the playoffs and some junkie
All Star game and I'll give them this. They tried,
like the NHL did. They tried to try to do
something different. Now it failed miserably, and I don't know
how many people watch them, Like k and t patted
themselves on the back so much. And I don't understand

(59:04):
Kevin Hart. He's not funny in the slidest, Like, I mean,
everything was a disaster. The whole thing was a disaster.
But at least they tried something. But it has to
start with players caring in every sport, like in baseball,
in the NBA and whatever. And that's the hardest thing
to motivate these guys who are so grossly overpaid and coddled,

(59:24):
especially in the case of the NBA that when you're sixth,
three and eighth grade, you're treated like you're a god.
So they've been treated like this their entire life because
they won the genetic lottery. And how exactly do you
put the genie back in the box and say, Okay,
we know money doesn't motivate you. We know you think
you're the greatest thing to ever walk around the Like,
what exactly could you do to say, please, pretty please?

(59:45):
Could you act like you care a little bit? Because
these advertisers pay all this money and all these fans
who voted you in, which the irony of the whole
process is everyone cares about the process and who got
in and who got snubbed and it becomes a big
deal and then the event.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Itself is a j Yeah, yeah, no exactly, all right,
No we can't. Yeah, you know, I'm just back from vacation.
You know, I'm just kind of cruising along.

Speaker 10 (01:00:10):
That's angry, and I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Angry and bitter right now. I'm not angry and bitter. Yeah,
this is a easy time. No, I'm not. I'm not
angry to be.

Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
The best time like spring training, and everybody feels great.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Brought up, Hey, it was great like spring training.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I'm I'm giving this team five extra wins like I
do every year in spring training. And then all of
a sudden you start bringing up the if factor, and
you're right, because now I'm just thinking if first base,
if second base, if third base, if left field, if
d H if right field, good times if the bullpen? Yeah,
I mean, is Matt Brash's Arm'm not gonna fall off
to spring training?

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I mean Santos actually gonna you can throw triple digits?
Hasn't yet? Hasn't he had why hasn't been healthy yet?
But he can throw triple digits? Yeah, yeah, fly to
I haven't seen it, but I'm sure it happens whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yeah, he's just an idiot.

Speaker 8 (01:01:06):
That's a great sports series is no matter how big
of a homer you are. Yeah, if you say if,
if you start seeing if you know the biggest homer,
but if that guy at first base and if and
if and if and then it's like, dude, you're the
like five ifs. Hey, Yeah, I mean that's just what
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
If I ever turned my Instagram mom and on and
don't see John Lund Unleashed is live, what would that
time be because you're on twenty four to seven.

Speaker 10 (01:01:27):
Fella, it has to I mean, that's just the way
it is.

Speaker 8 (01:01:31):
And now now this afternoon, I'm doing sales stuff like
this is I mean, it's way beyond me. Well, ever,
if anyone ever that's the other thing too, if anyone
advertises on this show, it might survive. But I'm not
so sure about that. I have a lot of ifs
in my own life.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
We'll go do that, stop.

Speaker 8 (01:01:45):
Drinking, you know, all those kinds of things.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
That's not going to happen either.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Okay, what where can people find your work? Because you're
doing a lot of stuff, not just be area at
National it's great stuff. Tell people we can find that
good stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:01:55):
Yeah, and again we're not it's not just a local thing,
but it's John Unleashed on YouTube, John Unleash dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Go check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
John. Yeah, Hey, Seahawk fans, fans go yell at him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah, go have some fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
We'll talk about all the guys leaving and the roster
cutdowns for the NFL next week. All right, yeah, all right,
body take care of body. Then John Lennonleish go check
out stuff. He does great work. He's a ton of fun,
got all kinds of energy. I don't know how he
does it, and I you know. And now Vladimir Guerrero's
made us all better. We'll check the text line.

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(01:03:10):
Just kind of teasing ahead on two things. Well, we'll
kind of go revisit the John Lunn conversation, the Vladimir
Guerrero thing. It makes sense, we can make sense if it,
will talk about it tomorrow. And Anders brought up a
go for it theory, Well, we'll bring that up tomorrow.
The other thing I want to talk about tomorrow to
Mariners A softy asked to Kevin Martinez, our president, first

(01:03:30):
year president, about streaming games and where they're at with that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
God, they're so far behind. Oh yeah, I mean it
is just it is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
It's remarkable how far behind they are compared to the
rest of Major League Baseball?

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Are we not in Seattle? Is this not like like, are.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
We not innovation technology? You know things like that? Mike,
I think Microsoft and Amazon or here. I believe we
build really good airplanes for the most part. I mean,
so yeah, weird. All right, let's get the text four nine,
four to five one toet them the text line. When
it's game time, it's toll it's time.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
You'll notice different text music because we're trying to keep
this as part of the podcast, So I hope you
don't mind.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Go ahead, Okay, what do we got here? Uh? Two?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Five three? If this guy listened to Jerry's interview, you
hear a bunch of those ifs. Yep, this guy being
John Lunz, Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
It's funny because when he was describing his old GM,
I was like, hmmm, sounds pretty familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
What do you call him? A nerd guy? A numbers
based analytics nerd or something.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
And then like some other derogatory term, but yes, it's
just John so true and it's like, hmm, and they
hired a guy that you know, has won multiple World Series,
has played recently, and is well respected around baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
When we'll come back to that in a second, John
Persval says these franchises are not the same. The Giants
have a bunch of rings.

Speaker 10 (01:04:55):
True.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
I think the more is the vibe like it's yeah, Curry,
because I think today it's different than it was. And
that's John's point, you know, I mean, when you're can
you imagine being in that division with what the Dodgers
are doing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
That's another difference.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
The mirrors, that's even more reason to go Spennis because
you have such a wide open door because this division sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Yeah yeah, I mean it's it's I couldn't even fathom that. Like,
and you're a media market. It's a great point. He
made media market four. Okay, so that usually means more
revenue from your broadcast partners. Now, I don't know where
they're at. I didn't get into it with them. I
have to ask them. I'll check with them next week,

(01:05:35):
maybe off the air too, because I'm curious their broadcast partner.
I believe still is Comcast sports Net. I believe right
with Matt Mioko does the fort or stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
That's kind of the big juggernaut.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
When I worked for Comcast sports Net Northwest in Portland
years ago, like everyone looked to the one in the
Bay Area as kind of the gold standard. I'm assuming
it's still them. Well, Comcast sports Net based on Comcast.
That was a big problem in Portland. It's only available
on wait for it, Comcast, So that probably affects you media, right, So.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
They don't have stream options there, I don't. I don't
another innovative place that doesn't have a streaming option for
their baseball team.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I'll get back to that on now because I read
the story today the Athletic and Seattle is like one
of like nine or something that he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Yeah, Oakland doesn't Seattle, doesn't, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
I mean, it's just not Oakland anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
That's right, Sacramento.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Let's see to do Riley or Raley, Hanniger Garver are
your first base DH?

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
If? If?

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
If that's what those are, those are three right there.
That's our new theme this year. By the way, if.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
It's Hanner is not my first base, I'll tell you
that right now. Probably not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yeah, I think that's a combination of DH.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
But ye had Solano in there, so it's gonna be
Solano for first base DH, which would be your two
masher positions. It's Solano Rayley, who I like, I like,
Lou Raley, Garver, Hanneger.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
And throw a DH of Hanneger in there too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Oh yeah, so both two guys at DH, two guys
at first base?

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Right yeah? If if ye?

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
And if it's four ifs okay, so.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Three of seventy five ifs.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Along the way, let's see, as long as Lebron is
in the NBA, the All Star Game will suck.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
All the players follow his lead.

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
He couldn't care less about the fight. I saw Lebron's fault. No,
he like what he did was stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
But I think the problem is is I do I
do agree with that though. I think Lebron because of
his statue in the league, guys who follow him.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
And we like to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Wax poetically about back in the day with Michael, right,
but there was a different mindset with Michael and Larry
and Magic and and that group. Hell, I just saw
some highlights from Sean camp in an All Star game
the other day. You would have thought he was playing
in Game seven in the NBA Finals, like just a
different like you know, I mean, Sean was cut from

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a different cloth, but O was Michael, and those guys
had rivalries. I mean, when you know when the guys
that played for the Blazers and they were really good,
like Cursey and Drexler, when those dudes played in games
like that, you think they turned it off.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
No, not a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
That's why that's why I referenced Carl like Malone when
we were just I remember doing the story, doing the
topic on the air, Like Carl didn't want to go
to the All Star Game, just didn't want to go
like he's want to go hunt and fishing, do my thing,
and he wasn't really doing that. He was doing other
things that were kind of gross, but but that's what
he wanted to do. Well, people lost their mind. Leak
said you're gonna get suspended for a game or two

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out of the break, and back then guys played, wait
for it, eighty two games.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
So it's a different deal. I think the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
I was just looking at the rosters for the Olympics
last year. I think you could probably do a series
of games and you could go. You you could almost
do Ryder Cup like US versus Europe. Yeah, not one
particular or country, but if you did US versus Europe,

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I think you'd.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Have a hell of a little tournament. Yeah, because because
the Europeans, as we've seen in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Golf, they'll rally together like you don't need and then
in people while it's going to lead, Yeah, it's gonna
leave some people off, like you're you're okay, So you
won't have Japan, you won't have Canada, you know what
have you?

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
That's fine. I mean, maybe you can include Canada and Europe.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
You want just just a Ryder Cup style just do
a Ryder Cup style, because I think the one thing
we've seen with the Europeans is in that golf tournament,
that golf event every couple of years, they care and
Team Europe really cares and they want to rally against
the US if you want to have something fun, because
you sort of think about what you could put together.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Like a Matt Luca Versus and Jokic and like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Wemby Luca Jokic.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I mean, all of a sudden, you're talking about Jannie
is playing for Greece, you know all or playing for Europe, right,
I mean you go through a whole you you would
have some dudes, absolutely that would the way to do it,
But then you'd have to play hard and I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Just don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
I don't know if those guys. And I'm really down
on the NBA right now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
I'm sorry. I need to get back on board, but All.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Star Game to not help that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
It's just it's a really it's really hard to get
on board with a league in which the players just
don't care about the fans in any way, shape or form.
And you say, what do you mean, Well, it's simple
when you sit out games, not just the All Star game.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Take the All Star Game out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Although if I bought a ticket for mega amount of
money and I didn't see Lebron in the All Star Game,
I'd be a little upset, like he's not going to
be in there here forever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
He's forty.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
I didn't go there for Mac McClung.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
No, But I mean, I bring up the story all
the time we went to I took my kid last
time pre COVID was twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
I guess it was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
We went to We went to a basketball game in
Utah every year. That's where he was born, and so
we go down and watch the Jazz. And the one
game we were going to see is Utah and Milwaukee
on a Saturday. The Friday night Milwaukee played in La
Jannis rolled his ankle and I'm like, man, he's probably
not going to play on Saturday. That would have been
such a massive bun. He played scored forty eight, only

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to be outdone by Donovan Mitchell scoring fifty. I mean,
what a great game. Two guys that just said we're
just going to go at it. But Gianness is cut
from a different claw. Yeah, yes, right, so, but I
mean I was thinking to myself God, if we would
have spent all that money to go down there and
that guy doesn't play. Now, if he didn't play, it
would have had an excuse. But he just NBA's got
some problems many I know that their numbers are good

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and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Adam Silver's got to be a better leader.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
I think he's I think he's as soft as they come.
Really disappointed in his press conference.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Nine quick.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
I mean, they don't even I know they're kicking people
out of the West Wing up at the White House
right now, and if they don't like you, you're not there.
I get that there's a little bit of an issue
going on in our nation's capital, but what Adam Silver
did is even worse than that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
We're taking nine questions.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Ronda Shelburn, you can ask something, you know, Brian Windhorst,
you can ask something.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Ben Golliver, you can ask something. And that's it. Like,
come on, man, anyway, we're not see one gets me
all works out?

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
Seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Hell, you were on a good move, I good mood
before that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
All right, I'm just dreaming of lad Vlad right there.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
I was in my head, just like what.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Would you go with Julio vlad Cal, i'd probably I'm
thinking two three, four, yeah right, yeah, I love Julio
gonna lead off probably.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
I still think Julio is best in the leadoff position.
But the team if he the best position for him is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Too is too if that makes sense, and especially if
Guerrel is hitting behind him and Cal after that, Yeah,
there to dream.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
And then Luke really out of five is not bad
throwing a rose arena.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
I'm gonna still think Luca Allison if.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Two good years in a row too bad?

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
You guys are done with stove, you could this would
be a great topic for you weekly. Okay, there you go. Yeah,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
We'll come back check him with fine next the Hay
to wrap up our All Star talk, just real quick.
Michael Jordan All Star fourteen times, didn't play in eighty

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six he was hurt. So in his thirteen All Star games,
six times he played thirty plus minutes in an All
Star game. Did Michael Jordan The fewest minutes he ever
played was twenty two, and that was when he was
probably forty two with Washington near the end of his career.
But we're talking about just Lebron factor anyway, Dick Fane

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is here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Were you here yesterday? Are you offering Ron?

Speaker 11 (01:13:50):
By the way, he played thirty or more twelve times
in the All Star Game? Did am I looking at
y minutes or more? You were looking at Jordan, I'm
looking at Lebron.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Oh okay, oh Lebron? Yeah yeah, yeah, but not this week.

Speaker 7 (01:13:59):
Not this week.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Yeah, And I like, I just I think you have
a responsibility for there. I think you do.

Speaker 11 (01:14:03):
I agree to it, and I think Lebron agrees too.
He's played in twenty of twenty. Yeah, so I don't
think it's like Lebron's like, oh, I'm too good for
the All Star Well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
I think lond was saying though, like how he dressed
for the team picture and the last second removal of
the game.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
I'm kind of coming out.

Speaker 7 (01:14:19):
I would agree with it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
I think that's I just think you this the league.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Has some massive issues right now, and that's part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I s talked it earlier, like, I mean, I think
you take Dixon too games every now and then to Portland.

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
Don't are taken to Portland?

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Okay. I took Key for to Utah for number of
year down there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
I just want to go like, if I go buy
a ticket, barring a true injury, you expect your guys
to play.

Speaker 11 (01:14:43):
Yes, Like he's only spent those two preseason games at
the time a pledge, But then those are ones I
refu George and Kawhi Leonards for the Clippers just sat
on the side.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Kawhi Leonard's not going to play in a game seven,
So why would he play in a preseason game?

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Nobody? What's this sound? Joel Embiid the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
He's missed one hundred games over the last I don't know,
four or five years, you know, and he's collected like
thirty million.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
Five are there?

Speaker 11 (01:15:06):
The are the poster boys, which is it's unfortunate because
there's so many good guys in the NBA, not just
great players, but good just good dudes. And you saw
their personalities on display this weekend. There are a lot
of likable guys, and it's just it's a it's a
problem with the system. It's a problem with the system.
These guys don't want to play any All Star game.
It's a problem with the system. But there's too many
basketball games. There are too many basketball games.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Eighty too too many. Yes, it's never gonna change though.

Speaker 11 (01:15:32):
The best season we've ever had was nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, now,
fifty games and it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Never gonna change though, not with not with luxury suites
being sold and season tickets being sold and media rights
being sold and all that fun stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
How you do down there?

Speaker 11 (01:15:48):
By the way, I now, he had a good he
had a good time. I mean, youngest kid down there
are one of the youngest kids down there, so but
great tail. Tip of the cap to Theodor Snyder junior
from gig Harbor, Hey is defending state champion this last year,
won by four shots. And this was a big time
regional tournament. There was people from not just the West coast,

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there's people from every good kid from gig Heart wins
by four.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Because he goes down and goes, hey, this is kind
of cool. It's not raining and snowing. I'm hitting off
a dry fairway. My ball didn't plug. They have no
such thing as winter rules down there, live cleaning places
like that. All right, are you coming up.

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
Today, ah, John Wilner to talk about.

Speaker 11 (01:16:30):
I thought Ross Dillinger's Yahoo article yesterday was pretty enlightening
about the new era of college football playoffs. It is
big ten sec and the rest of you guys can
just fight for your little spot here in a little
spot there.

Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
In our tournament. But so that's gonna be very.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Feel like a breakaway's coming.

Speaker 11 (01:16:47):
Oh yeah, well this is the first I mean, the
breakaway was gonna come, right, and then the big ten
sec said, okay, well you can have a couple of
these spots and we'll take the rest of them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
It's it's it's just college basketball's got the issues right
now with the stupid thought of expands.

Speaker 11 (01:17:06):
Although my team might have a chance to win go
to the tournament as m yours if they expand. Yeah,
but you know what, you guys would probably well you
would have been in like three weeks ago if they
would expand.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
We probably would have been in if we didn't lose
half our roster to injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
I don't know what they're doing in practice Pacific and
losing the Pacific twice didn't help. Yeah, I'd be a
Quad four loss once and a Quad four loss ye
And last I checked, I didn't get you into the tournament.

Speaker 7 (01:17:31):
Hey, my team's three and two in the last five.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Let's go, you guys, the fighting spreaks, are you fifteenth.
Now the in the Yes, we can't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Get into that big ten tournament, let's go. I just
hope it's a game that we have here on Kjar
about one o'clock in the after. If that happens, I'm
seeing go dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
So what else?

Speaker 9 (01:17:51):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Will you breed?

Speaker 7 (01:17:52):
Love Millan actually for the last two days was at Peoria.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Oh wow.

Speaker 7 (01:17:56):
So he's going to give us his baseball breakdown.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Good.

Speaker 11 (01:17:58):
And then we'll have Bucky giving a baseball breakdown at
four thirty today, hardcore baseball. Hardcore baseball with Bucky Jacobson.
So yeah, a whole lot of football talking at three
o'clock hour. And and I'll try to fix the NBA
play All Star game at five forty five. I will
attempt at five forty five to fix the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Oh bless you all right? See it all right? For
the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness, this is paddle
day saying so long everyone,