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Welcome in. Here we go onthe radio show. Today, Mariners win
again. We'll get to that ina second. WNBA has probably its most
anticipated opening night ever. Like theyit has become a thing, which is
really cool. Nice to see iswomen's sports continue to progress forward, except
for our state with the wia notyou know what, not the wa I

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don't want to say that, notMick Coffin, some putrid school administrators that
are cheap and scared and don't wantto do any heavy lifting voted no.
Despite every effort by the WIAA andthe Seattle Seahawks to have girls football.
Outside of that, on this daythat women's sports are moving forward, we
just stick a step back in ourstupid state. But here we are,

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and speaking of dumb, the dumbestthing I've seen in a long time,
Washington State, the dumbest thing Ihave seen you do in a long time.
This is what happens when you don'thave an athletic director. This is
what happens when you get cast asideby the other ten schools. This is
what happens. This is what happenswhen you are an afterthought in the college

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athletics landscape. Damn right, weare gonna get on the soapbox today.
We are gonna get there today ina second. My goodness, you're kidding
me. What are you doing?What are we okay, what are we
doing? I don't know are wedoing? Speaking of which, we got

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a new little feature we're gonna runinto today. It's called the Dumbest Thing
You'll Hear today. Oh, Ialready love it. It is the dumbest
thing you will hear today. It'scourtesy of Woje, the Great Woje.
A. Dronowski asked, it's acourtesy of the Woje. It is it?

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I heard this. I had toreplay it before, I said to
Jessmon, I had to replay itlike four times to say, did he
really say that? And really believethat? We'll play that for you at
two o'clock today. M good startgetting everywhere in the world we live in.
Who closes tonight for the Mariners?Uh? Probably not Munyas and not

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standing hopefully not standing. Yeah,that's who closed? Would be my vote.
Yeah, Gabe spier yea, eventhough he's a left and he's kind
of a lefty specialist, he's beengetting right. He's out. He's your
closer tonight, right, I wasgonna say you were. We kind of
went over Mariner's MVPs for the firstquarter of the season yesterday. Yeah,
there's an argument for Andre's munos forhow banged up the bullpen has been.

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If you haven't been as good ashe's been, is it for four out
saves now or multi multi thing servesfor like at least four out saves because
he's had a couple of five outsaves too. Yeah, So I mean,
yeah, so he's you know,we finally didn't bring him up yesterday.
I know, we talked about thatwith Molly Wap Monday. By the
way we got to it continues.Yeah, Molliwop thirty at checkout, going

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to simply Seattle. Go to simplySeattle dot com. Our guy, Jake
and the crew over at Simply Seattlesend me a text yesterday after we did.
Mollywop said, screw it not fifteenis great and we'll go back to
fifteen when they lose. But inthe meantime, a first place fire sale
going on right now. Absolutely,Mollywop thirty at checkout by going to simply
sale dot com, thirty percent offeverything on the site. Now I'm not

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told there has any sort of correlation, but I have a feeling the more
you buy on that simply Seattle websitewith that promo code, the more likely
the Mariners keep winning. Okay,so yeah, I'm in. Yeah,
and I do need to I doneed to point this out too. I
do need to point this out.It's not it doesn't increase every day.
No, because I think I hadsomebody like, oh, so it's is

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it forty percent tomorrow and fifty percent? Yeah, said, there's some clarification.
Yeah, they don't want a heater, And all of a sudden,
it's like free. You know what. It feels like, ma's one ten
in a row. It's now oneoff. In other words, everything is
free, free, free, goand simply Seattle dot com and it cots
you nothing. Just load up thatcart and yeah, clean out the warehouse.
Thanks for coming. No ware yougo. No, no, no,

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So it's not it's not that,but it's thirty percent off until they
lose. They won last night,so let's keep that going as well.
I can get back on there.Yeah, sent off, no chump change.
That's a big discount, I meanfifteen percent. Cool, moll want
fifteen every week. That's cool enough. But yeah, thirty percent off,
that's that's a nice chunk of change. Absolutely real urge on sports gear?

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Where do you go? What?What team do you splurge on? I
don't, Oh you don't. Idon't. I'm a Jersey guy. Yeah
I don't. I'm an oversized sweatshirtperson. Okay, yeah I don't.
I probably I don't. Am I'mjust old. I guess no. I
think that both you and I incertain things, Like I don't buy a

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lot of Washington State things because it'spart of what I have to wear for
the games, right, So theschool is very generous with giving me things
that I can wear. I thinkthe only thing I've bought over the last
couple three years are probably stuff forWitworth football, just because for my kid.
That's But outside of that, Idon't. It's a weird. It's
a weird thing because listen, Igrew up a Mariner's fan, grew up

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a Seahawks fan, grew up aSonics fan, grew up a Sounders fan,
and I but now that I kindof feel as if covering those teams
or talking about them, I don'talways like to wear their gear, right,
I just don't. I don't like. I don't think you guys ever
seen me wear Seahawks gear. IfI've never I've never worn I've never worn
Seahawks gear. I don't wear Marinersgear. I just I don't wear I

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just don't wear the stuff because Iand I don't know it's and it's weird,
like we all draw lines in thesand with what we do. And
I'm not trying to say that likeI'm just some sort of because I I
doe. Here's what I hate.I hate when I hear you know,
journalists, I'm not a fan ofany team, Greg, I'm talking to
you. I just covered them,and I can know and I can see
that to a point if you didn'tgrow up here, but people that grew

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up here and you tell me thatyou cover the team but you're not a
fan of the team. I havethat, and I find that it's a
balancing act because when I have towhen I cover a Seahawk game and I
interview guys after the game, andthat's the team I cover mostly, I
don't really go down to the teammobile to cover things. If I go
to Team Mobile, I go asa fan, sit down there and have
a few beers and enjoy myself.But you know, you guys do that,

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and you guys do a great job. Just is going down there later
today, you did it yesterday.It's awesome. But you know I have
covered them. I'll go a fewtimes this summer and you know, go
into the service post game. Andso I'm not wearing a Mariner's hat.
I'm not. I just don't know. Yeah, you can't do it.
Then there's people that do and peopleI did it once. Yeah it was
by accident. Oh crap. Yeah, like yesterday I was wearing my Cracking
hat, which different team. Yeah, yeah, but I don't, yeah,

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crack and stuff. I don't weartheir stuff. I don't. I
don't have any other stuff. Ofcourse, you know we're the only only
the flag ship. Why would yougive us stuff? Anyway? The uh,
I thought mine. I still havemy many beers. But but I
know, I just I don't buy. I don't buy stuff. And I
guess it's just a weird. It'sa very strange of me because I am
a fan, like and when Ihear people say that it's kind of funny,

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it's like, oh, I don'tknow, Well, it's listen.
There's a reac in our business.When the team that you cover wins,
it's better for you. It's amore people care some more people read you,
more people listen to you, morepeople watch you, whatever medium you're
in. And two, I don'tknow, I've done this for a long
damn time. Find I find ita lot easier to talk to guys and
cover teams when they're winning as opposedto losing. It just is a lot

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more fun. Like Greg and Iwere just talking about the postgame interviews with
the Seahawks, you know, afterlike the Arizona games, which after every
Arizona game, there's something that goeswrong, and it's always like even though
they win most of the time therelike they dominated that in that building with
a couple of exceptions. Then itwas cigar Gate. You know, there's

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always something. There's always either acatastrophic injury, you know, like career
ending injury not to make light ofthat, or last year where there was
a cigar gate where you've got XSeahawks players losing their mind over these guys
smoking cigars. Afterwards, it startedwith John Ryan kJ was like texting me
and other guys in the media goingare you me? And I'm like,

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buddy, I don't even know what'sgoing I mean, there's always something going
on. But when yeah, sowe but winning games, it's weird guys
want to talk losing games. Youknow that was speaking to kJ He was
like that. He was He usedto give me a hard time all the
time because he if the Seahawks lost, he was my go to guy.
Yeah, well, there are thoseplayers that you know almost want to talk

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when they lose, so you canlike, you know, well, he
didn't necessarily want to. I wouldjust I would just gramvel to him,
and I knew I could him andCliff I could get There are certain guys
that we all know who they are. I could go to Cliff, I
could go to go to Cliff,I go to Kj' hey man, I've
got to get it, like Ineed this. I trust you my job.
I need to get you know,guys on and they were always good
about Doug was always good about it. Jared Reed always pretty good in the

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Jarony is really good me. Youcan't can't do it live because he always
swears the same. Same with Franksduring well yeah Frank, but Carlos ze
Lamp was always. Really he wasgood. I know it was a short
time. Yeah he was. Carlosd'nomp was fine. But yeah, when
guys win, they want to talk. When they will Disley, oh miss
you will all right. He'd havelike one catch for four yards and you

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know, play like thirty five snapsand like, hey, can I talk
to you? I did nothing.I know, I don't care, but
yeah, so no, so you'rea jersey guy though. Yeah, absolutely,
we should do a jersey day somedayhere just for giggles. A pretty
big collection do yeah, yeah,all sports I do too. Yeah,
we could do a jersey old schooland I don't have any New York I
think I only have hockey jerseys orsweater so to speak. But those are

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and those are only from teams likeI worked for, so but we could
do a jersey day sometimes, MikeBoss, we should make that, really
I do? That is jan Patrick? That to me? Actually, okay,
I'm jealous of that. Yeah,it's yeah, just a very what's
your traditional Oh god, I haveso many? You have to Are they
soccer jerseys? But I have soccer? I have baseball? Or would they

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be kits? You could? Kit? Is actually the full oh, including
socks, saw shorts and socks.That's what they call the kit. Yeah,
yeah, but no, I meanthere's so many of them. I
have an old Manchester United nineteen ninetynine from their trouble winning season jersey that
I really really like. Am Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's back when

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we were actually good. Oh theyare you playing for them now? No?
Okay, okay, you know what, are you one of those people
that says we can't say we Idon't care. I don't that's not I'm
not gonna I don't care about that. I feel embarrassed when I say it,
but I don't judge people hard forwe're saying. I did laugh at
the end of the day. Idon't know who tweeted it, but I
saw it in the Mariners. Atthe Mariners game, there was a Dustin

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Actlee jersey being worn. Like there'syou know, that's not as bad as
like like a fig as one wouldbe crossing the line, Casey Kochman be
crossing line, but dre to becrossing the line. It's like, I'm
trying to think the worst seahawk jerseyyou could wear? Would that be?
There weren't too many jerseys. JamalAdams, We've never even brought up.

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I never even brought up the JamalAdams potentially coming back here. I don't
think it's ever gonna happen. Butit's like seems to be like this thing
that you know, Candota wrote aboutit, like they're talking. I'm like,
you got rid of him for areason. Well, I mean,
you know you got rid of himfor and it wasn't just football related.
He was a pain in the ass, like unless But this is where coaches
are different. Man. They comeinto play. They think they're the smartest

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guys in the room. They canchange everybody and turn them around. And
Pete Pete was guilty of that homerun, Jeremy Stevens very guilty of that
right corner Robinson, you know,like like like guys are guilty of that.
Maybe Mike McDonald says, I canchange this guy around. But yeah,
and Adam's jersey, I think that'soff limits. Hooshman Zada, I
don't think you should wear a Rushjersey anymore as a Seahawks fan. Yeah.

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There's just so many of them though, And for so long he was
like the guy well and they soldhim for like twenty bucks for a while.
Yeah, when they get rid ofguys. It's funny. When my
wife first came here to Seattle,we were, you know, shopping for
jerseys. I'm like, oh,you need a Seahawks jersey. We're gonna
like roof for the Seahawks. Soand we were looking through the clearance rack
because she's a deal shopper. Sure, So it was a bunch of russ
jerseys and then Ballby Wagner jerseys forthe year that he went to La.

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Oh, that would have been agood fine was perfectly gone on Bobby Wagner
jersey on like clearance because everyone thought, oh, he's gone, he's done,
and then he came back the nextyear. I'm like you, and
now he's got again, exactly.But I think you can always wear Bobby
Wagner. He's a he's a firstballot, no brainer. When he retires
five years later, he's gonna bein the Hall of Fame. I think
Bobby Wagner jersey is always okay towear. Yes, uh on the list,

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j Cam Yeah, Richard no,no, no, no, no
no no, no, Doug Dogone hundred percent, yeah, Locket,
Yeah, Tyler. Tyler will alwaysbe on it. He's gonna retire.
Yeah, yeah, I mean Ithink I don't unless say one year,
right, Yeah, yeah, that'sinteresting. Yeah Jersey wise though, Yeah,

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I don't know how we got tothis anyway. I like the conversation.
It's very you know what it wasMolly Wop thirty. That's how we
got there? Was that what itis? I just bought two sweatshirts,
just like, what do you buy? And mean's like nothing, So I
don't. I just I don't knowwhy now. The simply Seattle stuff that
I do like that. They've gotthe Kingdome stuff. I love that.

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That's good. The original Kingdome bluehoodie with the gold writing the Mariners colors.
That is their best hoodie. Theyhave period in of story and then
they have a new Kingdomes collection.I also like the Rainier beer stuff.
Yeah, oh yes, absolutely,no, I just it's if you're if
you're from here, it's just Raineerbeer is just a it's it is.
Yeah. I saw they have somegood It's like the Rainiers is the best

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logo in sports. It is thebest logo in sports especially that's hat.
It's very good. It's very good. A lot of them all right,
so here's what coming up. AlyssaCharleston's going to join us here at twelve
thirty today from Fox thirteen. Stormsstart tonight. They have this incredible core
of players and they think that theycan contend for WNB title, but more

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importantly bigger picture and we'll ask thisa little bit later on. I mean
just four nine, four or fiveone. The'd be interesting to see the
TV ratings are tonight. Actually,I'm very curious about that. We'll find
out. I'll get those tomorrow,Mork, because the Miner's play head to
head with the form tonight, Manorson Root Sports, Storm on Fox thirteen
plus, and Amazon right on Prime. Yep. Yeah, I don't know

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if you can watch that here thoughit might be blocked out. Oh really
yeah, it might be blocked blockoutsin the W well, because they got
you got to protect I don't know. I'll check tonight. You can check
tonight for me. Yeah, Ithink sometimes you got to protect your local
rights holders. That's fair, likeyou can't watch the Mariners on MLB,
which is stupid, but you're protectingyour local rights holders and they're and they're

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advertising and all that. So butwe'll just the Amazon numbers wouldn't register anyway,
so we'll it'd be interesting to see. Like when you're watching in fact,
good question four nine four five one, What are you watching tonight?
Yeah, you got Storm and yougot the Mariners in the Kansas City Royals
game two of their series. Youknow, there's an easy solution to that
answer. I'm not going to godown that road because no, I thought
of you last night as I'm gettingI don't know seventy five texts coming in

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from you and the two Knucklehead andMolly Walker giving me play by play on
the game. So it's easy forme. Yeah, you're yeah, because
you're out there here like those twoguys. Uh, stantic sucks. You
know. I can't believe Muno ispitching again. My god, four outs.
He's never to be ready for therest of the week. Uh.
Anyway, the uh ty Frantz hita home run that caused a major meltdown

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for those guys. I me,yeah, yeah, why because he's not
good but he Hey, I'm happythat he did it. Yeah. It
just doesn't go with my agenda thathe's there. You go, that's exactly
what it was. It doesn't gowith everyone's agenda right now. It doesn't
go with them, definitely doesn't gowith the mullywop agenda that they need to
help at first base. And he'sno good. Yeah that's true. So

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him hitting a home run, butby then the game was over. Shout
out to Kirby though, man,he had a struggle in the first inning.
He threw thirty was it thirty onepitches, a couple hit batters,
two hit batters, back to backthirty plus pitches first inning. It felt
a lot like it was going downthe Gilbert road of last week against Minnesota,
and and then he just he somehow, some way goes through seven innings,

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like after that inning, I justkind of shut her down. After
that, I'm ready for by theway, I am so ready, and
I never thought i'd be this guybecause I'm old. I'm so ready for
the automatic pitch, the strikes.Thank god. I am so done with
watching just and it went both wayslast night. It felt like it was
worse than normal. But it's notlike normal referees where it's like, Okay,

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he's not calling a great game,but at least it's consistent. No,
it affects it badly in both ways, because well it helped the Mets
got screwed the other night. Yea, our guy, our ideas got just
hooped on that one, right,like just totally screwed. I'm kind of
done. I kind of have comearound on that. I we're watching.

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I told you, guys, Iwent to the edenclop I shout at Hornets
go Horns their district game the otherday, and that I was noticed.
And it's a it's an umpire todoing in high school baseball. I get
it. Yeah, but he wasreally he was really inconsistent, and you
know, and you know, youcould tell, you know, everyone' kind
getting a little on the edge becauseit was so bad. But I was
sitting next to a gentlemen whose grandfatherthe kid I went to see play,

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and he said, you know,it's think about how hard it is now,
though, because it's when the ballcrosses the plate. Every catcher in
the world thinks they can frame apitch, even high school kids, and
the ball's coming in fast. Imean, high school kids now are pitching
as fast as guys were in themajors like twenty years ago, and so
it's hard. It's a really hardjob. It's moving a lot, it
moves so much. So yeah,I think we do that. But because
Kirby had bad to bounce back.I mean, he had a couple of

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called third strikes that weren't now sodid Singer like he probably got screwed more
he did, thank Kirby, Ithink. And then but the marriage took
advantage of it and they got thewin, and they continue on. Texas
continues to struggle, and I thinkthis is what it's going to be all
year. We're going to go backand forth, up and down. It's
a two team race and it's beenawesome. And as long as they're in
first place, our friends that simplyset are going to give away thirty percent
off of all their gameait is thatafter every win or until they lose,

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until they lose. If they lose, that it goes back to malliwa fifteen
and fifteen percent. Take advantage,guys, do it now? I just
you have until basically tomorrow morning ifthey lose, and I don't think they're
gonna lose tonight, Right, sweepthe Royals. Let's go sweep the Royals,
and then oh baby Baltimore and theNew York Yankees coming up next week.
So all right, we'll check in. Alyssa Charleston's gonna join us.

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Caitlin Kark makes her debut tonight.The Storm have a reworked roster. Women's
basketball has never been more popular.What are you watching tonight? Four nine
four five one? You got achoice, and even if you're not home,
I want your choice? Four ninefour five one on the Tulemroot text
line. But it's game time.It's what do you watch? The Storm

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versus Mariners? Who you got tonight? What do you got tonight? I
might have the Canucks and the Oilers. Calvin Pickard, former Deber getting starts
the Oilers like we just need toget by that. I love how consistent.
Let's say the Oilers win Stars areoilers? Who do you pick stars?

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Well, that's just because Sevy whenwe're trying to get him on the
sleep. Yeah, what if it'sColorado, it's probably still Colorado. I
it was my least favorite team inthe NHL Man Over Vegas season, Boston
Boston. Yeah, okay, I'mwith you. Ulissa Charleston joining us next.

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month we're going to be there.Maybe before we'll see. I got to
get up there along the way aswell to I need to get up there
before the PGA Championship starts. There'ssome juice on this. See Rory's getting
divorced. I really see y McRoyis getting divorced. I'd put the alse
on Rory to win this week.That I think so too. All right,

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I don't want to talk about divorcewith this young lady because she's getting
married soon. Just like Jessman justgot married. Everyone's getting married and got
married. You're getting married. I'mgetting married. Roight, Alyssa Charleston,
Fox thirteen joint us right now,how are you? I'm great and up
to my ears and planning, whichI hate. But Jeff, I know
you feel you feel that grind.You have my number. Let's commiserate.

(20:30):
Let's commiserate. I'm here and Alyssajust moved too, So yeah, it's
it's been a it's been a whirlwinning. Oh yeah, by the way,
you got to get ready for apregame like four or five six live
shots tonight and post game and allthat. But uh, for a former
college basketball player who played professionally overseasas well and has covered the NBA for
a long time, did you thinkyou'd see this day coming? When is

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there'd be so much anticipation Alyssa forthe start of the w NBA season.
I honestly, I can't say thatI did see it coming. I'm so
excited that it's here. But we'vejust been If you've played, and especially
you played in my generation, whichwas like tw T fourteen, fifteen sixteen
or before it, I don't knowif you just expected it to happen eventually.

(21:15):
I think it's been like a mentalmind shift to have people care about
women's basketball and you you still seesome, you know, really negative comments
where it's like that really goes let'slike water off a x back because you've
been used to it for literally yourentire life, where you just feel like
the sport you play isn't universally lovedand that's totally fine. I know soccer

(21:37):
fans probably feel that here in America. There's a lot of different people that
have that feeling, but it iswild to have it be anticipated as it
is and to have other people kindof like jump on the people that speak
negatively about it. Because you don'thave to be a fan, right,
I think it's good to admit,like, if you're not a fan yet,
that's fine, that's normal, Butto give yourself an opportunity to tune

(21:59):
in here and there and like theat least part of the drama. I
think some of the drama that willhappen with these these rookies coming in and
learning lessons or dominating. Because KaylenClark has done really well so far in
her pre debut outside of turnovers.It's it's a really special moment and it
feels very warrantying or just feels kindof like all the hours you put in,

(22:22):
it's really cool to see it forthe next generation to be really reaping
the awards. Now, I wouldhave loved you know, an Io dealer
two. Oh yeah, sure,but yeah, you know, I think
you need to be the Mountain WestConference Player of the Year. And not
good enough for the NBA draft andyou could have got two million to play
it you do, but that's fine. Uh, digress a little bit anyway,

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the Alissa Charleston joining us here,It is funny you mentioned that that
you know, you still get thestuff like, uh, you know you
hate women's basketball and all that.I don't know what it is about sports
fans in our country that we andmaybe this is something that happens all over
the place. But you know,like if you don't like something, then
just don't watch it or don't care. Why do you have to just rip
on things? That's just like ourworld that we live in. It's like
I hate soccer, No, they'llflop, they do this. You know.

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I hate women's basketball. They can'tdunk. You know, it doesn't
mean you have to. Yeah,like I'm not the biggest women's basketball fan,
but I like events. I likebig things. I like superstars and
listen, we've got that. Howmuch of how much of the anticipation league
wide is centered? Jill though onone player, and that's Kitlyn Clark.

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Oh, if you're saying anything otherthan that, I mean, you're kind
of fooling yourself in terms of newfans. Caitlin Clark is the reason why
people are tuning in and a bitof angelry though, I mean and Ca'm
brink, Yeah, can't brink alone, like just the whole Skins campaign with
Kim Kardashian now investing in the WNBA, and like can't Can't Break looks like

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a model. I mean, likethere's just there's all these different kinds of
like additions to the league. Butshe is a monster on the court.
She will block any shot within atwo foot radio, three foot four foot
radio. She's got that kind ofwingspan. There are other players that I
think Caitlin will be the first partto draw them in, and then the
Angel Reese, the Camilla Cardoso whenshe comes back from injury, the cam

(24:15):
Brink, the Rakia Jackson. Interms of rookies, they'll keep them entertained,
you know, they'll keep them here. And Nika Mule, I mean,
only four second round draft picks madeteams this season, so she's one
of them. She was loved inin Connecticut and among the Yukon fan base
and everyone here. You could see, like if you look at Instagram,

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she got a ton of engagement andpeople were asking for Nika content and she's
a bawler. She came out inpre season and she in this very few
minutes she kind of loaded up thebox score. So I think the fact
that there's still growth within the sport, people are trying to get more and
more. Only thirteen out of thirtysix draft picks made teams this year,

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so that's kind of the reality ofthe WNBA still right now, where if
you're a third round pick you're basicallytold not to come to camp because they
want to keep their franchise rights andjust go play overseas because you're not going
to make the team. That's stilla thing, but with more expansion teams,
more talent coming into the league,that's going to be less common and
more jobs along the way. Listencharleson joining it is Fox thirteen. You
can see her live shots pre gamefour, five, and six on Fox

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thirteen News tonight. Alyssa, youbrought up Nicky Mule. I'll get to
the core four in a second,but you know, an overhaul of the
Storm roster. They had a reallydisappointed season, especially for a franchise.
It just all they do and wehave two constants. Usually in this town,
the Sounders win and the Storm winperiod. End of story. They
just win and their fan bases areused to that. That didn't happen last
year with the retirement of Sue BrandaStewart going to New York. Jewel Lloyd

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had set a record for scoring,was incredible, a scoring machine, but
she was kind of a lone wolfout there, so they redid the roster.
Before I talk about the veterans theybrought in, how important was it
for Nicky Mule to make this rosterfrom a bit is a standpoint, and
this standpoint they the ones they broughtin, Like Jewel, you know,
is a you know, a fanfavorite for the diehard fans, but to

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kind of, as you said,to get past that group of fans,
to broaden the horizons. Nicky Mulesa social media person, really kind of
engaging personality, but a long shotto make the roster. They kept her.
I'm assuming it's she did earn herspot. They made a trade to
make sure they did be able tokeep her. But how important was it
to have a young player like that, the next generation of Storm perhaps on

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this roster. It makes a hugedifference in terms of again drawing more new
fans to the Storm, like,oh, like WNBA is a big deal,
so I'm gonna check in on theStorm, which is fine by the
way. Like if you're a newfan and you feel like you're gonna get
judged for joining van Wagen, Ithink welcome. Like it's awesome to have
more people engaged with the Sattle Storm, but it's not name. This is

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one of the most popular franchises inthe like in the WNBA has been since
the two thousands, early two thousand. But to have Nika come in and
continue to do what she did atYukon, I think she's going to be
a really important defensive presence and someonethat's just easy to root for because she
is a walking sound bite, Likeshe'll walk into the room her first thing,

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the first thing that she's saying,she's making people laugh, and she's
expressive and she's Croatian, so she'sgot a cool accent. She's unique.
I think from a social media standpoint, that's something that really helps the Storm
because it's the popular not necessarily likeTikTok Star, but that's kind of this
generation. If you're going to tryand draw attention on social media, She's
someone that has that electric personality thatthe other veterans are about business, you

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know, and Nika is too.Nika really cares about that stuff. But
she'll also give you some flare,like their little photo shoot things. She's
flipping her hair and being very likefeminine and different than the other players like
Skyler, Digg and Smith for along time, is you know, a
very popular athlete as well. Shewas one of the three to see with
Elena Della I think in the twentyfourteen or thirteen draft class. But I

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think she just she relates to theyounger generation. So it's it's younger generation
guide too. It's not just highschool and college girls that are going to
be drawn to the Storm just becauseit's a relatable personality. She's a fun
personality for both genders, anyone,you know, all people to be drawn
into and interested by because she's relevant, she's modern and new. What Alyssa,

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what are your expectations for this team? And maybe to start with,
you know, they got the quotecore four. Who are they for people
that don't know? And what arethe realistic expectations for this team? There's
a it seems like the term superteam is thrown out in this league.
More than any other weegue i've seen. It's you know, whether it be
New York or is Minnesota one ofthose I'm not sure, Vegas, what

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have you? What are the expectationsfor the Storm this year? Yeah,
I mean Minnesota has a player thatmissed all of twenty twenty two and to
be the Collier, she was likefourth in MVP voting. She has one
or two players around her, KaylaMcBride, you know a player that obviously,
but we'll see tonight. And thisSie is an average like twenty one
and a half last year, ButConnecticut is probably right on par with the
Storm and the New York Liberty peopleare giving the Storm right now the third

(29:12):
best ogs to win the championship.So that's and that's bet online, that
ESPN bet, which there's a tonof gambling interests in the WDA this year.
You see a lot of commissioners andyou know, high up guys talk
about just like wow, it's explodingthis year, futures and everything. But
the Storm added Skyler digg and Smith, who played a notor game, has

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played for a few different teams,but she was on the maternity league last
year, so she missed last season. She's back. She's an incredible shape.
The year before she had one ofher highest scoring seasons. She averaged
over nineteen points a game, overfive assists the game. She is your
point guard and that's what they didn'thave last year. They were in point
guard wilderness and it was kind oflike Jade Meldon or Vanna Dutkich, and

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they traded Jade, so Nika willbe the backup point guard behind Skyler.
It's a monsters. They call herhis gold Mamba. Kobe gave her that
name when she left Notre Dame threeseasons after three seasons, the first player
to do that back in twenty thirteen. But they added also Mecca gloom Mackay
in free agency and she is adouble double machine. She's nineteen points the

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game, about eight and a halfrebounds. Her and Skyler are exactly what
the Storm needed. Like we hada postseason Storm Show and there were free
agents and I was like, thesetwo would be dream scenario to get.
They are veterans, they're you know, deeper into their careers, but they
don't even know the league. AndI expect the Storm to be a top
four team for sure, because you'vegot Jewel with less pressure. She doesn't

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have to take twenty and a halfshots a game, which was she averaged
last year. And you've just gotJordan Horsen their first roundstick last year.
Who's going to be better? Andthen Zzie Magmagor is the other part of
the core four. So the corefour Mecca Gloom, Mackay, Ezzie Magnagor,
Skyler, Digging Smith, and JewelLloyd and Zsie was an All Star
last year and she is lengthy,she is twenty four years old and she

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has really come on to be animportant player for them. But Jewel will
do stuff that you just don't seeelsewhere. She does stuff that Arico arique
A Google Wally does, step backjumpers, step back three, fade away,
I mean, make defenders look silly. And now you have Skyler and
you have Meca and everybody around themto make that better. So I think

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they're going to be a top fourteam and I think they could push for
two or three. I love it, Alyssa. You can check her out
before the game tonight again on Foxthirteen News four, five and six will
be live shots over at Climbing PledgeArena with Aaron of course our own Dick
Fane on the call with at leastWoodward on Fox thirteen plus tonight with the
storm as well, So check thoseout and I will see you tomorrow.

(31:45):
We've got a special NFL schedule leasedraft show at five o'clock tomorrow on Fox
thirteen. You know what's a bigdeal when they're blowing out the newscast for
an hour and putting our faces onthe TV. So we will see you
tomorrow for that must mean we havea lot of games on Fox. That's
the only thing I can think of, right, that's why we're doing this.
That's that's all I can There's noreason we're doing this to promote a
bunch of games on CBS. SoI'm assuming we get a bunch of Fox

(32:07):
games if they're blowing out. IfHannah and the company are getting blown out
of news and we're on tomorrow,so busy a couple of days, have
a great show tonight. We'll seeyou tomorrow. And thanks for popping on.
Appreciate a Lissa, Thank you somuch. Thanks for having me out
there. You go listen Charleston joiningus here on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline,
Take quick break, Reset the houron ninety three point three kJ R FM

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Live from the R and R Foundationspecialists broadcast studio back to Ian Furnance Power
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point three kJ R FM by JoeShean's going to join us top of the
hour. He wrote about Bobby WittJunior. You watched him last night?

(32:51):
Is he a good player? He'spretty good, gets on a base every
time he's up. Yeah, he'sa great defense at short, good player,
steals bases. Like there's no I'llhave to come and ask Joe the
question, better player on set overBobby Whit or Julio. Julio's number three
on that list, isn't he?I mean right now, yes, he's
probably not even three, He's lower, But I mean, overall, you

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have to look at the full bodyof work. What's the hate for cal
Rawley in this? In baseball?Like every time I every time I see
these lists come out from like peoplethat I think know what they're talking about,
like MLB TV and MLB dot Com, like top five catchers, top
ten catchers, and like he's nowhereto be found, and like we were
talking about yesterday. He's got tomake an argument that cal Rawley. I
mean we talked about like who theguys are that? What are we doing

(33:36):
here? So it's your first dayon the air. My outlook. Sorry,
there's a little thing you can hitmute on the computer. Did anyway?
Yeah, Like every time the saidlike we talked yesterday, like like
m VP for the marriage at thequarter pole, Like he's right there,
he is right there. Probably maybein my choice, maybe he is right.
I mean it's like this guy isjust and he's just a war year.

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I mean, you got the catcher'sinterference last night. We'll probably find
out at the end of the year. He played the whole season with a
broken hand now, and it doesn'tmatter. This guy is just a bad,
bad man. He is tough ashelp. Then he legged out a
double literally the next that bat.He led off the next inning and smoked
one down the right field line,and everyone's thinking, well, and I

(34:20):
think Kansas City was thinking it's asingle, yea, And dude was going
right off the get absolutely just ajust game the right way he does and
there's a throwback to him. Andhe threw a runner out last night.
Yep again, umpires just not good. You had to go to replay.
But but they quote unquote broken handswith the broken hand. Yeah, he's

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the man. Anyway, I'll talkto his joke coming up in just a
few minutes. Four nine TELEMT textline when his game time we are He
asked the question earlier, what youwatching tonight? You got Mariners versus Storm,
And I threw in there, Igot Canocks oilers. I'm flipping around.
This is just a glorious night forsports like it. Really, this
is kind of the golden time ofthe year. NBA playoffs and HL playoffs.

(35:06):
Baseball is underway. If you likethe WNBA, that's getting underway as
well. I like last night Iwatched Man. I noticed it wasn't in
the headlines, and I'm thankful forthat. The the game uh in Dallas
that the Dallas Mavericks played, Yes, the Dallas Mavericks played. That is
the only team I played in thatthat blew the eighteen point lead. We

(35:27):
got outscored twenty two to eleven inthe final four minutes. Yeah, that
team. That was disappointing. Butwhen you go ten of twenty one from
the free throw line, you probablyaren't gonna win a lot of games.
That's an NBA team that shot lessthan fifty percent from the free throw line.
Yep, that's the one thing thatI can't forgive when it comes to
watching basketball. We all know,if we've played any kind of basketball,

(35:51):
we all know that's the easiest.I'm gonna guarantee you this will I will
guarantee you this. There is noway that either team playing at Climb Pledger
and tonight will shoot less than fiftypercent from the free throw line. That
it just will not happen. Ican guarantee you that. It's like watching
a soccer team go two to fivefrom the peak CA spot. I mean
Luca had a Yeah, Luca hada chance to tie the game with ten
seconds left to make and he hadto make two free throws. He missed

(36:12):
the first one. Like it justthat's unacceptable, Like I I, I
think the NBA players are more skilledthan they've ever been before. And yeah,
and you know, they're fun towatch, and I mean, it's
it's amazing that guys that never missthe ten foot fifteen foot inside you know,
like those shots never miss those shotsgo to the free throw line and
you shoot less than fifty percent.Hell, the one kid he can't.
He's he looks like Shack. Upthere their their post player, their backup

(36:37):
post player. What's his name?I don't but yeah, he's he looks
like shack. It's like, ohyeah, it's like hard to watch,
Like I'm not, no, I'snot better shooting it? You know,
can elite ten year old AAU teamback in the day. All right,
we'll take a break, come back. Joe Sheen also wrote something interesting so
our guy last night. George Kirbygoes seven innings despite throwing thirty plus pitches

(36:58):
in the first inning. That's unheardof in today's baseball. He wrote about
that it's crazy how short pitchers aregoing these days. We'll talk about all
that with Joe coming up next now. From the Star Rentals Sports to us
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down the Royal six to two lastnight. Luke Raley ty Franz had home
runs. George Kirby seven innings,three hits, no runs, struck out
six. Munyos came in close thingsout no runs, struck out three in
his one and a third innings ofplay back at it tonight KC six forty
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(37:44):
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Schedules have come out for Washington State, Oregon State TV wise what John

(38:06):
Canzano and John Wilner have been reportingfor a while, CW and Fox are
teaming up to cover the PAC two. We'll get no more of that coming
up at about one thirty today becausethere's a couple of things if you're a
Wazoo fan that will send you sideways. We'll tell you about that first.
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how are you today? I likethat open man that be It's official.
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Lots going on in baseball. Iwant to start with you. Wrote about
him and wrote about some of thebest shortstops in the game right now and
Mariner fans over the next two daystoday and then tomorrow afternoon get a chance
to watch one of those. Andhis name is Bobby Witt Junior. How
good is this dude? It's fantastic? You know he had a rough workie
year, especially defensively. Two yearsago, there was a lot of talk

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about leaving him at third base permanently. He moved between third short as a
rookie, and I thought the athleticismwas there that if he just left him
at one position to become a prettygood shortstop, and that's what's happened.
He was a plus shortstop last yearearly on. He's got great defensive statistics.
This year, there's no question anymorethat he's a good defensive shortstop.
But we'll get you excited about himas the hitting development. This is somebody

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who has very good power. Seeone of the fastest players in baseball,
and each year he gets a littlebit better with the bat the ball,
making better contact, making harder contact, drawing a few more walks. He's
probably going to set a career highin walks by like June this year.
So you see the development. Oneof the things you really want to see
in young players are they getting better. And every year Bobby Wood Junior has

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got a little bit better. Partof what you wrote about, and I
was going to ask you this becauseso Jeter, Alex and Nolmar were I
mean, I'm thinking about great playersthat play shortstop, and now you've got
Gunner Henderson, Elie Della Cruz.We saw earlier this year Cincinnati was in
talent and then Bobby Wood Junior.Is the shortstop position a premium position for

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offense and defense? Obviously for defensein baseball? But is it still a
premium position? What do you expectout of your offense at shortstop? Because
I think we always think about thecorners, and maybe maybe Joe, this
is a broader conversation. Have expectationsor what we expect from certain positions have
they changed over the years, Likeis shortstop a premium position offensively or is

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it still the corners as far asfirst than third? No, you go
back forty years. I was talkingon an earlier hit today about cal Ripken
Junior kind of redefined what a shortstopcould be size wise, the Colt sixty
three and everybody thought, O AWeaver would move into third base and we
said, no, that guy's myshortstop and Robin yeout parallel to that,
one of the MVP in eighty twois a shortstop expecting those big offensive numbers.

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Now we've had good in short stopstart history or any banks for it.
Stevens guys like that. But itwas in the eighties that we stopped
looking to that five to nine,one hundred and forty five pound Larry Boa
type and started expecting shortstops to carrytheir weight with the bat. Now in
the modern game, there is afew things happening. One, there's fewer
balls in play, so the defensiveburden on any one player is less than

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it would have been forty years agoafter the increased strike up rates. Teams
are also carrying, not necessarily inSeattle, but most teams are carrying catchers
whose primary task is framing, sothey're not expecting as much hitting out of
catchers. So catchers, to someextent, or what shortstops were forty years
ago, just played defense and wewill worry about you hit what you hit.
Once you're sacrificing one lineup spot thatway, you need to get more

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offensive everywhere else. So there's alittle bit more burden on a shortstop.
And the other thing is data centricpositioning. We've banned the shift. You
three guys on the right side,but if you watch a baseball game,
now, look at how many timesthe ball is hit right to an individual
in fielder, even without being ableto fully shift players. Teams have almost
perfect information about where hitters hit theirground balls now, so it takes there's

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less of a burden on an individualplayer to have great range when you can
position him to where the ball isgoing to be hit. I was just
thinking as you're you know, talkingabout the five ten and fifty pounds you
know, shortstop. I mean,we had one of the best here for
a long time, and then hemoved on obviously and had a terrific career
in Cleveland. Other player like OmarvisScale was you know, I mean,
for a long time with Seattle's bestplayer at least defensively, was something else.

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But he was a little guy,right, And but you mentioned Robin
yet was he out help me out? Did you out go from shortstop to
center or center to shortstop because heplayed out came up with a shortstop with
the Brewers. I forget the yearhe moved to center, but he won
the MVP as a center fielder anddid Okay, Yeah, I was just
thinking about because yeah, as soonas you mentioned his name, I'm like,
okay, yeah, there was aguy that was an absolute stud as

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well, bigger player too, andyou know, a little thicker along the
way, Like you know, JP'shere and is coming back soon. He's
going to rehab assignment down into colembI think if not today or very soon
in the next day or so JPCrawford. But it's interesting with him.
He won a goal Glove a fewyears ago, but I think a lot
of metrics say he's not as gooddefensively as you know, certainly a goal
glove would have said. In fact, I mean, I don't know Andrews

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is in there. He covers alot of games, a lot of us
like Dylan more better right now atshortstop than what JP was giving him along
the way. So I it's aninteresting dynamic moving that player around. But
boy, Bobby wit something else alongthe way. What do you what JP
watched him enough? Is he ishe still a premium player at that position.
I think the fact that he's hitbetter makes him viable at shortstop.

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He was a eighty five ops plusguy a couple of years back, and
you know, couple of years andvery good offensively at the same time,
I would call him an average minusshortstop. I don't think he's a liability
the necessarily if he's hitting I likehim better defensively there than I do Dylan
Moore. I'll tell you that moreseems to be like a utility player.
Shortstop. Jamie Crawford is a shortstopwho might be just a little bit below

(44:17):
average with the glove. I'm gonnaI'm gonna oversimplify this just from my own
being, but it feels like becausewhen you said that Dylan Moore is a
utility guy, and he is,like, that's the guy plays pretty much.
I think he can play anywhere besidescatcher. I think he has played
everywhere except for ketcher enders. Yeah, when you get that label on you,
is it hard to get rid ofit? I know that's just that
it's a very it's very abstract andsubjective question. But it's like, boy,

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you're just a utility guy. Itfeels like Josh Rojas kind of fills
that role right now. We're watchinghim play more outfield and like like seeing
him in the lineup more often.Utility guys don't get that label out of
the blue. They get it becausethey that isn't good enough to carry a
corner and the glove isn't good enoughto play up the middle, but they
can do all of those things toa certain extent. If you have a

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ninety to ninety five ops guy whocan run and fake seven positions, that's
that's very worth a roster spot,especially today where teams are only carrying four
guys. I don't have to tellyou Chris Taylor left Seattle in a very
minor trade for yep something Lee.The picture's name is matter correctly, and
you know he went on to havea very good career at the Dodgers,
coming to the end of it now, but he hit his way into a

(45:28):
regular job. If Dylan Moore turnedaround and had one hundred and twenty five
ops plus the way Taylor did withthe Dodgers, he wouldn't be utilitated player
anymore. He started a second baseor somebody. So you can hit your
way out of that that role.You can't field your way out of it.
For the most part. If you'renot a shortstop at age twenty three,
you're not going to become one attwenty eight. But exactly the Chris
Taylor trade exactly, Yes, thanksGod, well, yeah, yeah,

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we suffered through enough. We sufferedthrough enough. Dodger playoff series and Chris
Taylor big hits in game winning homeruns and so worth it to know that
all too well. Unfortunately so,but we're used to that here in cel
Joe she and joining us here rightto buy wild wood spirits. I want
to get to a pitching thing ina second, especially but as it relates
to you mentioned the framing with catchers. Where does Joe Shean stand on automatic

(46:15):
balls and strikes like they're doing theminers right now, ten years ago?
Yes? Please, oh put itin tomorrow, Yes please. I just
I framing efens. I believe whatthe numbers say, but I believe that
we've assigned a skill to catchers whenwhat we're really measuring is umpire and competence.

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Framing stats are the quantification of umpireand competence. Because the pitcher didn't
do anything, the catcher didn't doanything, the bat or did anything.
The on pulplit mPire just looked ata pitch two inches off the plate and
said strike. We've driven all thatcredit to the catcher, and I hate
that. I just have never takenwell to the concept of framing. And
I know I'm they of an outlieramongst that heads this way. I just

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think it distorts the game. There'sthe reason that we don't let we don't
call pitches. There's the reason whythey played is seventeen inches by because that's
been defined as how you know,the hittable area of the play. So
when you start calling pitches two threefour inches from that strikes, you just
start the game. You make it. It's hard enough for hitters right now.
Mm hmm. I mean these arethe great This is the best set
of pitchers that have ever lived.And you're gonna get in three inches off

(47:21):
the plate. Come on, soyeah, I am here. Give me
an automated ball strike system. Iknow it's flawed, and what'll see is,
oh, well, you know itcalls pitches that can't be hitch strikes.
Are you watching baseball? Every singleinning an umpire calls a pitch that
can't be head of strike. Yep, this is not an objection I take
seriously. If you're not, whyif you don't, If you don't seen
it, go to the unscore cards, Twitter and you'll see games where just

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every it's just a bunch of strikesbeing called outside the zone. Hang out
on Twitter and just every night you'llsee somebody who's looking at this video of
this idiot pitch called you know,two inches low and two inches outside called
a striker. Well, I don'tcare if ABS is flawed. I care
that it's better than what we havenow. Well, there's two things that
you okay, One what you saidabout you know, it's hard enough for

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hitters right now. People still wantto see balls in play, Like,
we still want to see balls hit, and maybe that forces more swings.
Maybe it's more swings and misses,but it forces, you know, hopefully
we would see more balls in play. We watched the game last night and
we were talking about this in ourfirst hour. Joe that both pitchers,
both Kirby, but I think moreSinger, it felt like, but both
guys. You know, innings wereaffected by by missed calls both ways.

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I mean, Perez had one thatwas an egregious call that was a huge.
It was in the first inning,right Andrews, I think it was
like a huge. It was ahuge, huge miss, like three four
inches outside the zone. You're like, okay, that affected the entire game.
A guy that was throwing thirty pitchesin the first inning in Kirby and
that affected the entire game one pitchBecause it's not like it was borderline.

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It wasn't even close. I'm withyou, I I and I was never
I've always kind of been like ahuman element guy. But I think because
I cover so much jennfl that ifit can help, I think it's good
right. Get it right as opposedto getting it wrong. Joe, Well,
the we happy human element. It'scalled the players. Yeah, I
go out there to see the playersdecide the game and not some middle manager

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who is the lowest paid player onthe field or lost a person on the
field flip it. Because we focuson the three to two pitch that's two
inches outside that gets called a strike. I do that myself. Every at
bat is affected. When you takea one to one count pitches outside on
fire calls at a strike, heflips it from two to one to one.
Two, the pitcher throw a ball, he called it a strike.

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That's like five hundred points of expectedops going from two to one to one
and two flips like that throughout thegame affect game gives say it all evens
out. No, it doesn't tellyou get go to the umpire scorecard.
They show you that umpires not ata ballast, I hope, but are
calling games unbalanced. It's just rightodd. And let me just make one
other point about abs, because youyou kind of hit on it just now,

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Michael, is to have an automatedsystem that forces pitchers to throw hittable
pitches for strikes. If you goback, ah, I've probably used this
rant before, go back one hundredand forty years. The whole reason we
have balls and strikes is to keepthe game moving. It's to force pitchers
to throw hittable pitches that batters couldput into play. Baseball was never meant

(50:19):
to have twenty three percent strikeouts andeight percent walks. It's not the design
of the game. It's kind ofbecome warped in that direction. So my
hope is that an automated ball andstrike calling system will force pitchers to value
command and honestly take them away fromthrowing these unhittable breaking pitches because a lot
of times what happens is a picturegets up one and then just keeps throwing

(50:42):
the ball outside and hope that itgets a call or a swing. The
mPire gets bored and calls one ona strike. I want to take that
element out of it and say,look, if you want to throw your
eighteen in sweeper. That's fine,but you're gonna have to throw it over
the plate to get a strike call, so maybe you throw it less,
so maybe take a little bit offit. But it forces pitchers to throw
hittable pitches in the hopes that weget more balls in play. I think
an automated ball and strike calling systemis the most realistic path we have right

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now, because they're not going tomove them ound back. It's the most
realistic path we have right now tolowering the strike out rate and increase the
amount action. Well, and youknow, we've talked about the mound and
you know, lowering and moving backall those things. We've discussed that a
few times with you. But Ithink part of it I wonder too,
Joe, like guys that are throwingpitches. The pitcher in baseball, he

(51:29):
is throwing harder, faster, withmore movement and more velocity and more spin
than ever before, right, Imean, in that sense, the game
has changed. It's made it's moredifficult creators, you know, even with
the best balls and strikes being calledright, and they're getting away with it
in part because they don't have tothrow actual strikes because of this problem.
But the umpires are teely calling ballstrikes. So I want to take the

(51:49):
umpire out of the equation and say, okay, if you want to throw
this incredible, if you want tothrow ninety nine, and you want to
throw the ninety two mile an hourslider in the eighty eight mile an hour
sweeper, you can do all ofthose things. You better throw them fortual
strikes. We're going to take awayit's a flaw in the game's design right
now where pitchers don't have to throwpitches over the plate to get called strikes.
Take that out of the game,and picture's behavior will have to change,

(52:12):
and that will presumably also change hitter'sbehavior. I think you can get
more action in the game if youget these nineteen and twenty one inch wide
plates out of the game. Joshand joining us ProAb to by Wildwood spirits
along the line of pitching our guyhere. Last night George Kirby threw thirty
plus pitches in the first inning,but somehow still went seven innings, three
hits, no runs, struck outsix andrews. What he throw right around

(52:36):
one hundred pitches right, yeah,just under. I think it was just
done like ninety nine ninety but hegot to the seventh inning. But Joe
seeing a pitcher go past the sixthinning. Now you wrote about this,
how rare is that in today's baseballit's very rare. I don't have the
number in front of me. Ithink I looked it up for a news
line the other day. What you'veseen now more is guys having six good

(52:58):
innings believe in the game. Inthe I'm gonna vamp for a second because
I did look it up. Itwas a funny staff, But basically they're
in the In the seventies and eighties, guys very rarely left the game after
having six shutout innings. They wouldjust keep pitching. And now six shutout
innings is a good start, andguys leave like sixty times more often than
they would have in the seventies inthe eighties, So again that's pictures are

(53:23):
exerting more effort, There are moregood relievers in the bullpen. There are
a lot of reasons we understand whythis happens, but it that little part
of my brain that grew up inthe seventies and eighties when I see a
guy go six shutout and leave,that kind of like, ugh, I
even hit it more when they goeight shutout and leave like it's six to
nothing in the ninth, let themgo for the shutout. Come on.
I know it's just a stat,but let me let them pinish the game.

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But I think Krbi's gonna end uphaving a really good career, and
you know he might. He mightcomplete ten games or something over the course
of his seats, just the natureof when he comes up somewhere. Nolan
Ryan's got one complete game and noshutouts. Matt Schurzer, Yeah, I
remember writing this for SI a thousandyears ago. Max Schuzer didn't have a
complete game until it was like seventhyear in the league. It was the

(54:07):
year he one that saw young andended up going out as free age.
He didn't have a complete gamer asfirst like one hundred and eighty starts in
the major leagues. I have tolook up the number. Don't know what
Felix had, but I mean,I mean, Felix was a guy that,
like we'd watch him and we wouldsee arguments on the mound with any
one of the dozen managers or sothat we're managing here during his career,
and it didn't matter who the managerwas like, how many times did we

(54:29):
see Felix sit there? And hewould literally beg like, let me stay
in the game. And I thinkpart of it was he just knew he
had a better chance to finish thingsoff. That was the old marriage.
Now the new mirror's bullpen is lightsout. But that also goes back to
something Joe. So now wo rosterconstruction. We're just talking about the short
stops to start a conversation today andhow important different position groups are and utility

(54:51):
players everything else. Now the bullpenprobably has taken on an added significance more
so than ever before in baseball.He's actually a the causant effect is a
little muddled there, because so therewas some stuff this morning online Jason Stark
and Ken Rosenthal, two Hall ofFame writers, did some work and kind
of basically talking about this whole issueof the prominence of the starting pitcher.

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It's been one of Jason's issues fora long time. Enormous respect for Jason,
I just disagree with him on this, But one of the things that
doesn't really come up is the thirdtime effect. Now, the third time
through the order, you know,pictures are worse the third time they face
an order. I think people thinkthere's something STAT had invented ten years ago,
and if you go back through history, you see that it was the
case in two thousand and four ornineteen eighty four, nineteen sixty four.

(55:35):
I've done the research. You thinkabout the guy, Oh, well,
you know Bob Gibson. No,Bob Gibson was worse the third time around.
Sandy Coch No, Sandy kopfhats isworse the third time around. What's
changed is that we now have eightguys in every bullpen who are better than
leaving in most pictures a third timearound. Now nobody's looking to take out
Justin Verlander or Derek Cole or thoseare the only two healthy starters in baseball

(55:59):
colts, not even healthy, butmost pictures like third and fourth and fifth
starters. The reliever you're going tobring in for that third time around is
just better than that guy. There'sjust no whereas when there were only four
or five guys in the bullpen andthey were all failed starters, you were
better off leaving in all of yourstarting pitchers. That's what's changed. It's

(56:21):
the availability of all these relievers andthe roster expansion. Remember there might have
been eight pictures on the cardinal staffin nineteen sixty eight, and then Earl
Weaver would have nine and Towiny ofthe Russo would have ten. And now
we got thirteen pictures on every roster, which is eight guys in every bullpen.
Some pitching staff didn't have eight guysback in the sixties and seventies.
So that's been the real big change. It's the availability of all these relievers,

(56:45):
which is why I've said cap availablepictures, whether it's eleven on the
roster or you only get to useseven in a given a week, whenever
we want to do it. That'swhat you've got to take away from the
managers. If you take the relieversaway from them, they'll have to change
on they manage the stars. DidThey kind of do that a couple of
years ago though with you know,you have to face more than one batter

(57:05):
the rule changes in that regard withinthe game, they did. But if
you look at the way managers havemanaged around that, the out where if
you finish the inning, you canleave the game like you don't have lugis
anymore, but you kind of havelugis where like the guy comes in and
it's l RL. They'll get thelefty, intentionally walk the righting and get
the lefty. You know, likethis work. Right, It gave us
fwer intra inning. You didn't havethose innings where it was like one bad,

(57:28):
one batter, one batter. Butfor the most part, it didn't
really change how managers ran their bulkons. It's interesting, though, because that
was done for pace of play andyou know, shortened games like the pitch
clock and all those other things.But what we just talked about though,
with you know, automatic balls andstrikes, that would actually help pace and
play more than anything, right,Like I believe I believe it would.
Yeah, I mean that would moreballs and play, more action, all

(57:51):
the things that we're trying to getto with baseball. So let's do it.
Can't handle it anymore? Well ifit's But here's the thing. This
is where there's the pace and thelength of play. Conversations got a little
messed up. Sure, the factthat the game's two forty now versus three
or five a couple of a weekor a couple of years ago. I
really don't care because the same baseballgame we didn't add any more action to
it. Even the stolen bases,we're mostly just empty calories. If you

(58:15):
actually increase the number of battered ballsthrough an ADS system, if the game
goes from two forty to forty five, but you have more balls and play
and more hits and more defense andmore just running, that's a much better
game, even if it takes alittle bitter I'm I'm with you on that.
I just as some of that.Again, spends most of my fall
covering football games home and away.I I don't mind a three hour plus

(58:37):
football game because there's always something goingon right in between action moments that anders
is right, Yeah, it's well. But here's the thing. Like I
watched a high school baseball game thispast weekend. Joe and a coach came
up to me after hids goes,this is where a pitch clock needs to
happen for every level. And Idid chuckle because there is a pitcher that

(58:57):
came in and I'm I'm not lying. It was close to a minute between
pitches. It was crazy, likehow long this kid took And I'm like,
let's get going here. Like,you know, if you're throwing balls,
this one thing. If you're throwingbut just let's there's a there's a
pace of play element. It's Idon't know, maybe we have a shorter
attention span these days. It's theyounger crowd like anders as a shorter attention

(59:19):
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by Snow Call me Casino, allrights reset the day. Do you want
me to turn my computer speaker onlike Vaka had on here now that she's
gone, Yeah, she didn't takea vaca from the rest of this show.
Apparently she's just gone, she's left. I mean the hell where she

(01:01:50):
just goes? She just took off? Huh, I think you were.
I don't know, maybe took ita little too seriously, if I if
I just leave sometimes? Is thatcool? Sure? Like she did.
Yeah, I'm just I can holdit down. I'm just she's driving down
a team ol right now to doto do some work down there. She's
probably just important work, actually,I might ass Yeah, it'll you'll find
out later in the softy Fat extravaganza. But yeah, she's driving down there

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going. Are you kidding me?Like? Are you kidding me? Are
you No? We're not, We'renot kidding you. VAKA you just although
you'll see what time is it?One thirty? Yeah? Clubhouse Olden is
at two thirty two clock? Usuallyit feels like she left a little early.
Yeah, just got to make youget down there and no traffic.
Gotta get your parking situation figured out. I don't mind this. I don't
mind it fine. I believe yesterdayaround the same time, So I know,

(01:02:38):
I like I like giving her griefmore than you though. That's along
the way. That's fair. Wheredo you fall? What do you fall
in the abs world. Uh,balls strikes. I mean, I'm easily
with you guys. It it shouldcome, I know, I'm I'm not
saying you get rid of umpires.Well they still use them, Yeah,
I still have them making the homeplate. Yeah, but yeah, they

(01:03:00):
input too much of their personality intothe game and it's just not enjoy able
to watch. No, I Iand I I don't mind. It's funny
because I don't mind the personality ofofficials at times. Right, I don't
either. You know what, there'sa lot of people that get really upset
because there's a couple of NFL officialsthat are very verbose when they get on
the mic. You know. Uh, Currente was like the worst, Like

(01:03:20):
you just it's like, that's nota first down, it's third out.
In fact, we all saw thatguy. You don't like, we don't
need your play by play. There'sa line you draw, but you want
to explain your call, right,Yeah, But I don't And I don't
mind an umpire who shows a littleflamboyance what they called third strike or yeah,
things like that. I don't mindif it's right, yeah, but
when it's not right and it's it'sblatantly wrong. Hell, Raleigh was setting

(01:03:42):
up in the in the left sidebatter's box a bunch of times last night
because what Joe just said. Theyknow guys that you get two strikes and
a guy and Joe, guys willchase, yeah, and see what they
do. And I think that's thehard thing with baseball. I think there
is a pace of play. Ithink Joe's going to disagree with that,
but I cut them off because wewere running out of time. But I
think there's a pace of play inbaseball. The pitch clock. I wasn't

(01:04:03):
really in favor of it when itstarted. It's fine Now I think people
have gotten used to it. Ithink people have gotten used to it.
And like I said, that highschool game I saw, I mean it
was painful. Yeah, now younotice it without it, it's like whoa,
it was painful. Who And Iwatched I watched a college game a
couple of weeks ago, and itfelt the same way. It was just
it was in fact, it wasa good game. We're going to State
washing this stuff. I watched itsawful, but they beat organ State that

(01:04:26):
night. But I was watching thatgame and it was painful. Now,
also the innings were really long.The game went like three and a half
hours, but you know why,because the balls were in play, Guys
were running around the basis, therewas action. There's stuff happening. You
don't mind watching for a long periodof time. It's like when nothing's happening
between stuff, it's just I thinkwe live in a world now of instant
gratification with social media. Everything's inyour palm, in your hand, and

(01:04:48):
I'm not complaining about that. Thisis not one of those times where it's
Ian old man yelling at clouds.I'm not doing that. But I think
because of that, you know,baseball has taken a big hit. It's
the slowest game we have by alot, a lot and many golf but
yeah, but golf, you know, yeah, golf is slow, But
if you watch a golf tournament onTV, there's stuff happening. They never

(01:05:09):
are giving you a ton of time. It's you know, let's say,
you know, andrews Hurst is onthe fourteen second shot, Boom you finish
that. Let's go to Ian oneighteen. You know, they just go
boom boom, boom, boom boom. So there's always something going on in
baseball. The pitch clock has helped. But the other part of it is
because there's so there's fewer balls inplay, there is inherently less action,

(01:05:30):
right. And it's cool if yourpitcher is great, like if George Kirby's
throwing strikes, then the top ofthose innings at home are great. If
Logan Gilbert's throwing strikes, it's funand enjoyable to watch. But if you're
watching just a random game and oreven your own team's game, and it's
like, you know, a threeto one comp all four, okay,

(01:05:50):
well and then we're gonna walk around, it's that's no fun to watch it
all. Greatest example is the eighteeninning playoff game, first playoff game in
at home in Seattle in twenty years, and I guarantee you there was people
that were like, oh my god, this is boring to watch. Even
though it was a close game.It went to the eighteenth th inning.
It should buy all accounts be oneof the most exciting viewing experiences of a

(01:06:11):
Mariners fans life, right, Andit was just like you, I don't
know, maybe it was just thefact that you kind of knew that Astros
were going to wake up at somepoint and get the winning run. But
it's just like, even with ourpitchers absolutely dominating, it was so like
boring. I don't know. Ithink when you go through other sports and
you have seen things that have youknow, tried to speed up play,

(01:06:33):
Like college football changed that rule acouple of years ago where they they don't
stop the clock on first downs untilthe final two minutes and that you know,
and I I never mind a longfootball game because football is once a
week. You carve out the time. But if you look, the NFL
model is a perfect one. TheNFL carves out a game that is honestly

(01:06:57):
three hours. It is a threehour window very so little. It varies
very little. I mean, Imean, it just doesn't vary at all.
What's one of the biggest complaints aboutcollege basketball, and we don't really
hear it until we get to MarchMadness or conference tournaments. It's the final
minute and a half two minutes ofa college basketball game. They take like
twenty five minutes to play. Yeah, and part of it now back in

(01:07:17):
the day when Ben Hollan was coachingUCLA, he'd burned through all his timeouts
in the first you know, inthe first five minutes of the second half,
and so that wouldn't happen with them, but anybody else, the coaches,
you look down and I mean,I'm guilty of it. I love
college basketball. I look down andsay, oh my god, the team
that's down by three, they've gotthree timeouts. They're going to foul after
every single and they've got three timeouts, so they're going to take a timeout,

(01:07:39):
and then they're going to take anothertimeout. And it's just the NBA
is kind of like that, likenot as bad, it's not quite as
bad, but it's still like,yeah, like you don't want that,
Like it's yeah, you like dramahockey, does it best? You get
one time out exactly? You knowwhat, You get one time out.
That's it, You're done, Wemove on and that's it. You don't
have to worry about it again.You and you save those timeouts. You

(01:08:00):
know. Soccer has none of that. Yeah, you know there's times when
I'm watching a soccer match, going, boy, they could really use a
time out here. Yeah, butno, you gotta keep playing. And
now in the MLS, if aguy goes down and fixed injury, you
can't even do that anymore, right, be off at these two minutes.
Yeah, which I like that.It's a great ruy. Diaz got smoked
the other day and he might havebeen a little banged up, and then
he realized, I gotta get up. Yep, I gotta get unless the

(01:08:20):
other guy gets a yellow card,which then right, I feel like,
actually, but he didn't because theydidn't call any fouls in that game exactly
until he let him play. Theylet him play that game. It was
one of the most enjoyable soccer matchesI have seen in a long time for
that. In fact, they werestaying that in the broadcast, like they're
letting him play, and I'm like, rivalry match, man, they hate
each other. Women's women's soccer isa better game sometimes than men's because a

(01:08:45):
they don't flop, they don't dive, they don't do that. Yeah,
and again, the MLS is kindof trying to take some of that out,
which is that's kind of the americanizationof the sport. It really is.
I was going to say, there'snot if you watch a European like
high level soccer match, there's lessflopping than an MLS. Yeah, that's
for sure. Okay, here's what'scoming to the show. Fournine four to
five. One telemor text line wasgame time. It is toutally time.
We asked the question we get afun night in sports in Seattle. We
got the Mariners in the second gameof the series against the Kansas City Royals.

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First place ams taken on the Royalstonight, six forty first pitch.
That's on Root Sports. We've gotthe Storm tonight, their season opener with
a new rework roster and more enthusiasmfor the WNBA than ever before. Hockey,
which we're gonna talk about in theDaily power Play coming up in the
second What do you watch it tonight? What's your choice tonight? For well,
the other thing you mentioned in thefirst segment was what sports jerseys will

(01:09:30):
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maybe players who aren't necessarily in Seattleanymore that you can always wear the The
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(01:10:14):
M. There's a battle in Albertatonight. We'll get to that in a
second. And his favorite team,the Evanton Oilers take the ice against the
Canucks, favorite team last night inthe NHL playoffs. Man, I remember
arguing with Sebby about this last year, and I'm looking foolish, more foolish
by the day of Wyatt Johnston,Wyatt Johnston, Maddy Benier's arguments. Wyatt
Johnson. Last night, twenty yearsold, pair of goals stars get a

(01:10:38):
win over the depleted Colorado Avalanche,Kevin Shockey's team falling apart of the seams.
Another thing I remember from last yearwas the Vallee Chushkin situation. Is
yeah, he's been suspended for sixmonths last year. Of course, he

(01:11:00):
was the focus of an investigation bySPD when they were called to the hotel
during the series the Colorado Avalanche forby the Way, called uh to the
Hoteam Hotel. Team doctor got involved. Woman had looked like she maybe odeed
that one by the way disappeared.No charges were filed. Still don't know
where she is Russian mafia mob mobmob. He's got all kinds of issues.

(01:11:25):
Yeah, he was in the playerassistance program. Now he failed a
test, so a drug tests.He's out for the next six months.
Well yeah, it's his third timein less than a year. Got an
issue. Yeah, got an issue, I think, so not to make
light of it. He got anissue, and he's got other issues because
the woman in his room who washere sort of on a visa, and

(01:11:45):
I mean that whole story was sketchy, man, if you Jeff Baker did
a really good job of writing aboutit, and even then it read like
something you'd watch on you know,investigation ID TV at night. But he's
out for six so they found thatout yesterday. Devin Tate was out last
night as well. They're they're downsome guys and Dallas took advantage of them
and beat him last night. Theycan clinch the series, leading three games

(01:12:06):
to one tomorrow out West by theWay. Actually, yeah, I'm gonna
get the coaching search in a secondout West big thing out Well by the
Way, Carolina, which goes intocoaching search. They stayed alive, forced
to Game six against the Rangers,Jordan Stall started to come back for them.

(01:12:27):
Bruins are gonna be without Brad marShan tonight, but you're going fard
the Rangers Canes series. I gowith Rangers. Yeah yeah. I usually
don't care about the New York teams, but I think the Rangers are good
for the NHL. I agree theyplayer, they get Brandon hockey team.
I have their fun to watch.They play hard. Yeah, and I
like Rempy. He played last nightwas blast night. Yeah yeah, but

(01:12:50):
get to that. Back to thatin a second, because that may have
to do with what's going on withCrackt and their coaching search. Tonight,
Oilers and Canucks go back to theice. Two game to one for the
Canucks in that best of seven seriesWestern Conference semi final. All three games
one goal. We're all Canucks.We are all Canucks. Crawford, if
you're listening, we are all Canucks. Trio of one goal games. All

(01:13:12):
three first games are all three gameshad one goal. Calvin Pickard, the
former Seattle Thunderbird, gets his firstplayoffs start tonight. Stuart Skinner got the
yank, so he gets to starttonight. He would be effectively Edmonton's third
goaltender because it was Jack Campbell andStewart Skinner to start the year. Campbell
was awful. They sat him inthe American Hockey League. They signed Pickard

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and he comes in. He's thenumber two, basically the number three guy,
but he's been the number two.He gets start to night. She
loves is the number three goal forVancouver, but he's been playing like a
number one. But just a greatseries. And by the way, they
hate each other. Now they hateeach It went from I don't know if
this is a rivalry too. Theyhate each other. It's very much what

(01:13:57):
happened last year with Colorado and thecrowd exactly. All it takes the playoffs.
You see somebody two times in threedays. Yes, you're gonna hate
each other pretty quick. In thatsport. You're playing on a two hundred
by eighty five foot sheet of ice, on blades and in close quarters.
You are gonna find hate real soon. And they hate each other. It's
a great series. I can't waitfor that game tonight, San It should

(01:14:18):
be fun. Carson Seussie, theformer Kraken, suspended because he hit mcjesus
up high with a cross check.I can't do that in the NHL.
That's bad. Even though Connor McDavidgave him an little whack across the legs
of the two hands slash. Youcan't hit the franchise for the league.
Sorry, you're out, Seuss formerEverett silver Tip know what Juleson is in

(01:14:39):
the lineup tonight for Vancouver, sogood for him. A lot of local
flavor with picker Juleson and others inthat game tonight Coachella Valley. I'll touch
it on tomorrow. They start theirseries tomorrow against Ontario. Give you an
update on the number Shane Right.I can just tell you this four games
of playoffs so far has a goaland assist. It hasn't done a lot
offensively, but we'll update that moretomorrow. Okay. Coaching search for the

(01:15:00):
kracking Tom McClellan, remember we broughthis name up last week. A couple
other guys are out there, CraigBrubi and others. Yeah, McClellan,
I'm not a huge fan. Ijust don't like the style of play record
is. Yeah, he's interviewing yet. Actually he interviewed yesterday in Toronto.

(01:15:21):
Interesting. Here's the thing I wasthinking about that as they're going through the
process the Kraken, they could havehired somebody already. If they wanted McLellan,
they would have hired it. Ithink are Bube they would have hired
him. I think, yeah,guys that are on the beach, Guys
that are on the sideline. SheldonKeith, former madyple Leaf coach, was
just turf again, same thing.He looks like he might end up in

(01:15:42):
New Jersey. So who are thekrack and waiting for? Would be the
question. Is it Dan Biosma,Yeah, still playing? Is it Rob
Britdamore? Is it Rod the Bod? Is it one of those two guys?
I almost think it has to be. Yeah, I agree McClellan doesn't
seem to be a candidate here becauseagain, you could have been done with
it already unless you wanted to interviewthese guys. But do your due diligence

(01:16:04):
or whatever. Yeah, but thething in the NHL is you're you're gonna.
You're not gonna because now you're competing, right, Like, if you
really want mclone, why would youwant to let him go interview in tod
Tonto. Yeah, so I kindof get the feeling. Just you start
crossing names off the list, itfeels like it might be Biosma or if
Brenda Moore doesn't resign in Carolina,might be him. And since that series

(01:16:26):
now is extended at least six games, you get to wait a little bit
there. I heard about a couplelike assistants for teams that are still in
the playoffs too. I think aBoston assistant was in the runner, and
yeah, is it? Uh,don't is it Granad? No, it's
not sweety. Maybe I wouldn't rememberthe name. I just remember hearing a
Boston yeah. Uh. And thenJay Leech in Seattle, but I just

(01:16:47):
don't you would have hired him alreadytoo, Yeah, exactly. And he's
not a popular guy with the officials, by the way. That's you're never
gonna get a call ever, ever, ever, ever. We talked about
that last year, like you'll neverget a call Brandon Moore or who would
you prefer? It doesn't matter tome. Like them better than some of
the other ones. Yeah, Imentioned this the other day, like none

(01:17:10):
of these guys are really good.Roster construction excites me more right now.
It's true because eight headers are talkingto break like Sam Bennett's a free agent.
He's thought to be maybe the meanestdirtiest player in the team in the
game right now, more so thanMarshan because he just knocked out the guy
that was like that, which everyonefeeling sorry for him. I'm kind of
chuckling, like, how many guys, how many guys have you slew footed

(01:17:31):
over the years? Chief Punk fromthe Bruins and the Rat There's a couple
guys for the Canucks that are freeagents, Dakota Johnson, Josh Joshua,
Dakota Josh Wait and then Nikita's dooroff that is one man, bad mean,
big tough Russian defense. His hiton Evander Kaine, my god sent

(01:17:56):
him into the bench aslever T Kettleshoving him down. That was so great.
Love to see that. Let's gochange the complexion and personality of this
team and a heartpbeat with a coupleof guys like that. I mean,
there's a reason Rangers lost yesterday.The reason they put Rempy back in Yeah,
they like like doesn't get a lotof ice time, but you put
guys back in there because you needto change the personality of your team and
this team needs it badly, Yeah, badly, because I want to Maddy

(01:18:20):
Beiner is a good player. Yeah, you know why. Johnson's got Jammi
Benn out there and other guy's kindof keep an eye on for him like
he can he can do his thing. Yeah. I don't think Maddy feels
comfortable out there. I agree,So go change the personality. It's tough
and up here. Huh all right, Uh, dumbest thing you will hear

(01:18:40):
today, maybe the dumbest thing you'llhear all week, maybe all year.
We've got that forty next Now fromthe Star Rentals Sports to us. Your
ninety three point three k j RFM sports headlines and two o'clock headlines are
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(01:19:02):
Mariners roll on six to two overthe Royals last night. Luke Rayley and
Tye France with home runs. KirbyRailey, Nuke Raley. Well it's misspelled
here side to be careful. I'mthe same Luke Frayley, Jake Frayley exactly
you say Luke, I say Jake, Yeah, I say Jake, You

(01:19:24):
say Raley, Nuke Rayley, Uh, Raley and France with home runs.
France with the home run, muchof the chagrin of the Molly whoppers Andrews
last night. They didn't like tosee that at all. George Kirby was
great. Seven innings, three hits, no runs, struck out six,
got through a rough first inning aswell, which was just remarkable that he
was able to bounce back. Butyou know what I heard, he's really
good. He is really good.Munno's close things out. Gotta save tonight.

(01:19:48):
Logan Gilbert three point r three andone two nine four ERA, which
is remarkable. You know how goodhe's pitched this year. He's got a
two nine four e er. Hislast outing, he gave up eight earned
runs in four innings. That's howgood he's been this year. Yeap,

(01:20:08):
he had one bad adding. He'llbe great. I'm gonna say he'll take
a no hitter into the fifth.Wow, that's back game, Okay,
one hundred percent. He my fachappens. He has a chance to be
in a Cy Young race. He'smy favorite pitcher for this team. He's
awesome. I just he just is. What happened last week is not going
to happen again. He's going tokick ass and take name storm. Tonight
open the Seas against Minnesota, Climbplayed raina seven o'clock. Can see that

(01:20:29):
game on Fox thirteen plus channel oneto ten on your dial. If you
have comcasts. Richard L. Faineon the play by play call tonight,
he's your voice of the Seattle Storm. Caitlin Clarke Indiana open up tonight as
well. They took a charter yesterdayfor their first game. Was climbing coincidental,
No, it's one hundred percent thefact. I mean every WNBA player

(01:20:50):
should thank her, and maybe aslight thanks to Angel and Cameron as well.
Yeah, let's not be a youknow, gatekeeper as they say.
No, they have done a nicejob. Sounders and Realest Lake tomorrow six
thirty and Sandy six o'clock pre gameon nine to fifty am on the dial.
And we'll get to this in asecond. Twenty twenty four home football
TV games first five six games forWashington State and Oregon State. The new

(01:21:12):
PAC two announced CW and Fox.It is official. That's the TV homes
for those two second, that's whyyou were asking me that question before we
win. We're gonna get that inthe second. Let's move on to two
o'clock hour. Here we go.Yeah, just real quick on Gilbert again,
He gave up four earned runs inhis second start of the year against
Milwaukee, went five and two thirds, five hits and four earned runs.

(01:21:38):
These are the earned runs allowed inhis other starts this season. One one,
one, zero, two zero andthen eight. This dude, he
is special, Yeah, he is. These are the walks he's given up
per game this season. This mustbe like zero each time. One one,

(01:22:00):
one, one, four, onefour and two. Wow. I
just just is just a ninth startof the season, ninety seven start of
his career. This guy is justhe gets I just I'm a fan,
man, I'm just a fan ofLogan Gilbert and I kind of got that
old school of moxie to him too. On the mound where he's just like

(01:22:21):
quiet competitor, you know, youjust just looks mean. Kirby kind of
has that same look too, andBryce Miller. There's a lot like a
lot of that in our pitching stack. Well, we didn't get into it
with with our buddy Joe Shean,but he's gonna Joe Shean joined us every
Tuesday at one o'clock bright to byWeldwood Spirits. We didn't get into it
with him, but Joe's gonna beat the game on Friday in Camden Yards.

(01:22:44):
He's there this weekend. If you'rea Matter fan going out there,
he's gonna He's going to Joshian dotcom. He's doing a kind of a
presentation out there. It'd be worthgoing to check out and seeah and Kemviy
Yard is one of those ballparks youhave to go. It's awesome. I've
never been to a game there,but we've been to Baltimore a couple of
times to cover the Seahawks and bothtimes been able to walk around camp and
then they keep it open, whichis really cool, awesome, and you
kind of walk around, like atleast part of the outside, see where
Griffy hit the ball and things likethat. So it's pretty cool. But

(01:23:06):
Joe's gonna be got Joe loves BryceMiller more than any pitcher on the Mariner
staff. Like he says, he'sgot no hit stuff. Yeah, I
just loves him. So he getsto see him on Friday, which is
cool. So uh so, yeah, Gilbert gets to start tonight four Seattle.
I'm gonna get to the dumbest thingyou're gonna hear. Ever, maybe
at least for today, the dumbestthing you're gonna hear today. That's coming
up in just a couple of secondsas well, so stand by for that.

(01:23:29):
I'll also touch in on the CWand Fox agreement with the Pack two,
which would be Oregon State and WashingtonState. And now I don't think
I'm pretty sure Washington's if they askSoftie, I don't think we tried to
look this up early. It doesn'tlook like Washington's early games have been time
scheduled yet they don't have their schedule. Don't think so, right, So

(01:23:51):
talk about that by now, butwe'll uh the sim of the same complaints
that you hear from the PAC twelveare now being uttered from the PAC two,
which I think also will be utteredfrom the Big Ten. Yeah,
television rules college football doesn't matter whatnetworks you're on or what conference you're in.
These last second and or times arejust massively frustrating. Wazoo did something

(01:24:15):
that I guess they were forced intoit. I don't know how this happens
or how it could happen, butit did, and I'll explain in just
a couple of seconds. Doesn't affectme as much as it affects a lot
of other people about five years ago, I would have been sideways mad.
But that's why we'll get to thatin a couple of seconds. It's not
the dumbest thing you'll hear today.It's just the dumbest thing that happened today.

(01:24:35):
But the dumbest thing you'll hear todaywe'll get to in a second.
After I tell you four nine fourfive one tell them. We'll do text
line when it's game time. Itis telettime. Asking a couple questions today.
One fun night tonight storm seven o'clockwith Fain on the call, Fox
thirteen plus the Mariners at six pointforty. Let's call it six thirty on

(01:24:59):
FA Sports. Yep. And ifyou're a hockey fan like we are,
got the Canucks tonight taking on Andrew'sfavorite team, the Edmonton Oilers. Yes,
my absolute favorite team, the Astrosof the NHL. I don't know.
They don't cheat on but there they'rehated by a lot. I don't
know. I don't even know ifthey hated that much. Just I do.
We were talking, hey about wewere talking about Zadoro of a minute

(01:25:19):
ago. Yeah. Uh, hewas asked today at the skater around the
Kida's door of a defenseman for theCanucks. Yeah, someone asked him about
the NHL protecting his investment, theinvestment, uh or, he said,
they're protecting the investment in Connor McDavid. He was asked, why no protection
for you? He got high stickedby Zach Haney of the Day, Right,

(01:25:41):
pretty bad. Yeah, he says, I guess I don't. I
wish I could do a Russian accent. I guess I don't make that much
money for the league. I meanit's a hockey play whatever. Move on
Game four today. Let it beso just doesn't care, just tough guy.
Huh Yeah. Well, and theother thing is Edmonton is kind of
rough en up that Vancouver's best playerin Quinn Hughes. They're going to go
after him tonight. Yeah, it'sgoing to be It's going to be an
absolute blood back o. That gameis going to be an absolute blood bat.

(01:26:06):
Vander Kaine is going to run aroundlike a fool. It's going to
be great. Okay, let's getto it. The dumbest thing you'll hear
today, Yeah, Bronni James isgoing to have an impact for organizations,
not just on the basketball side,but potentially on the business side. He's
almost assuredly going to start in theG League. He will pack G League
arenas, merchandising. All of thosemake him an attractive player, whether it's

(01:26:30):
late first round or second round.So I think certainly his opportunity to play
in the NBA is there. Okay, all right, I want you to
just think about what you just heardfor a second. This is Adrian Woldjanowski
from ESPN, the insider of allinsiders for ESPN's basketball coverage. So Bronnie

(01:26:51):
James, son of lebron is atthe NBA Combine right now. First of
all, the fact he's there iskind of a joke. They only invite
a certain number of players, kindof like the NFL Combine. But guys
that are going to be, youknow, the guys that have kind of
earned it there. A lot ofother guys go to the G league camp.

(01:27:14):
Case in point, Isaac Jones wentthere. Washington State's post player All
Packed twelfth player from last year.He went to the G League camp.
Now a few guys like Jones earntheir way into the main combine camp.
Isaac Jones let me go back,double double machine All Packed twelve last year
led them to a NCAA appearance.Oh if nothing else was a starter.

(01:27:43):
Okay, this was in relation toBronnie James and his future in the NBA
and what that could mean and whyhe's at the NBA combine. Play it
one more time, ye, ifBronni James is going to have an impact
for organization, not just on thebasketball side, but potentially on the business

(01:28:03):
side. He's almost assuredly going tostart in the G League. He will
pack G League arenas, merchandising.All of those make him an attractive player,
whether it's late first round or secondround. So I think certainly his
opportunity to play in the NBA isthere. Okay, this has to be

(01:28:24):
the dumbest thing you're going to heartoday and maybe this week. And I
know that hating on Bronnie James iskind of a sport right now in itself.
People like to do that. Theylike to just to blast the kid
because of his dad and because hisdad kind of influences so much around the
NBA. And that's a heavy burdenfor anybody to wear. Absolutely, it's
also a pretty easy burden to wearbecause Bronnie James has had a pretty easy

(01:28:46):
and good life. So I don'tfeel too bad for him in that regard
as far as earning his spot inthis world. He really hasn't had to
work as hard as a lot ofkids. Doesn't mean he's not talented as
mean to put the work in,but he just has. But the dumbest
part about that, as he goesto the NBA combine, which I just
I cannot fathom for the life ofme, is WHOA, Who's a pretty

(01:29:11):
smart guy? Yeah, telling youand telling people that the reason he's there
and the reason he's going to getdrafted the reason. And the NBA has
sixty draft picks, thirty and thirty, and sometimes they don't even have that
because teams in the NBA sometimes breakrules. Last year, I think they
had fifty eight. I think twoteams lost their second round picks, right,

(01:29:31):
So, but sixty draft picks.First round picks all get guaranteed contract,
they're on a roster, they're setto go. Sometimes it gets sent
down to the G League, butthey're on a roster. Second round picks,
much like any WNBA pick, you'renot guaranteed anything. Your chances of
making the roster are not great.Depending on where you go, you know,
there have been some guys that havemade it, and more and more

(01:29:55):
NBA teams try to keep a secondround pick around because they're cheaper in the
salary cap league, especially lucky luxurytack. You can, but there's no
guarantee you make those a lot oftimes. What you'll do is draft a
guy in the second round that's Europeanand they'll send him and you'll keep them
in Europe for a year or two. But there's no guarantee you're gonna stay
on a team. There's two thingsbefore he gets the dumbest part of what

(01:30:15):
he said, which is just mindboggling. The thought with Brony is if
a team drafts him, Lebron's goingto kind of find his way onto that
team that's gonna you know, open, which would sell tickets. There's also,
you know, they'll try to denyit and everything else. Don't think
Lebron James gets coaches hired and firedevery day. I mean, JJ Reddick

(01:30:38):
may end up being a coach ofthe Lakers next year because Lebron wants him
to be, which means he's justa coach and name only. You might
just go back to Lenny Wilkins whenhe was the player coach here in the
Sonics. That true, Lenny wasa player coach and damn good one.
And by the way, Lenny wasa Hall of Famer as a coach and
a player. But he ain't leLebron James ain't Lenny Wilkins in terms of
being a coach. Never done it, and I don't think we'll see that

(01:31:00):
again. But he does pull thestrings. But I'd ask you guys this,
Did anybody make their way out toAlaska Airlines Arena last year or to
I don't know, Matt Courtz,to Guild Coliseum, to Beasley Coliseum,
to Maple's Pavilion, et cetera towatch Bronnie James. No, nobody went

(01:31:28):
to watch him. I think alot of people forgot that he wasn't even
playing at USC. I think everyoneforgot he was playing at USC. When
USC came to Pullman, for example, nobody cared that Bronnie James was there.
You know what they cared about.They cared that that trader loser chief
punk. No, I like agood kid. He just made a really
bad decision. DJ Robin came totown right and people bowed the hell out

(01:31:49):
of him and that was a bigdeal and they beat him and they were
all thrilled and happy. Right thatBronnie James had five thousand, like four
minutes like was in. You know, they kind of made fun of him,
students did, but they didn't care. It's not like they're selling tickets
and people come to watch him.They averaged six thousand fans a game and
an eleven thousand seed building down inat USC six they were at less than

(01:32:13):
sixty percent capacity for all. Soyou'd think he's gonna sell tickets in the
G League where nobody sells a ticketand nobody cares. WOJ, what are
you smoking, dude? Nobody caresabout Bronnie James. The only person that
cares about Bronnie James is lebron James. And the fact he's staying in the

(01:32:36):
draft just I feel kind of badfor the kid in a sense too.
Did you see this story about hiscombine measurements? How all through college he
was listed at six' four andnow he's like six' to one.
He's not even six to one,he's like six six foot and three quarters
or something. Russell Wilson five eighthswhatever the hell was yeah, like he's

(01:32:57):
not even close to six four.Yeah, and he jumped forty inches,
which then Albert Breer chimed in forthe NFL, like fourteen guys in the
NFL jump higher than that, youknow, like in the NFL combine.
Right, It's that's fine. Ihe's not a good enough basketball player to
be an impact player in college basketballright now in the Power five in a

(01:33:18):
Power five conference, much less inthe NBA. But to think this dude's
going to sell tickets to the NBA, You've got to be kidding. Or
to the G League. Yeah,no, nobody sells tickets to the G
League. That's a no go.You know how you can sell tickets to
G League if you put a GLeague team in Coachella Valley, because apparently

(01:33:39):
anything they do down there sells tenthousand tickets a game. Dude, it's
such a cool atmosphere too. Outsideof outside of Coachella Valley, you're not
selling tickets to the G League.And by the way, they're not taking
a G Well, we'll be interestingto see when the Sonics come. Where
would the G League team be.That's a good point. I can tell
you right now where it's going tobe no ally. Yeah, and they'll

(01:34:00):
sell tickets. Yeah, not becauseof Brownie James. All Right. The
other dumbest thing today is this,So the twenty twenty four home football schedule
CW and Fox combining to televise thePAC two games. We've known this for
a while. Johnkins On has beenreporting it with John Wilner for a while.
This is going to happen. Thefirst six games came out today for
the home football or actually these areall the home football These are all the
home games for the Coobs and theBees because they will be on CW and

(01:34:25):
Fox. The games that they playon the road, which would be for
the most part in Mountain West gamesand for Washington State. The only other
road game would be the alleged neutralsite game at Central Linkfield Lumenfield sorry against
Washington the Apple Cup in September.But they came out today. Portland State
on the CW, Texas Tech FSone, San Jose State CW back to

(01:34:51):
that one in a second, Hawaiion the CW, Utah State on the
CWN, Wyoming on the CW.So Washington State has one game that will
be on either Fox or FS one. I'd probably bet you the house.
It'll be on FS one, doesn'tmatter, it's still you know, it's
honestly FS one better than the PACtwelve network, a lot more available for

(01:35:14):
people, you know so and theCW. Now, I asked Andrews about
this before I get to the dumbpart of this. Do you get you
stream with what? Right now?I use Fubo TV. Okay, do
you get CW on there? Ilike I told you that. My answer
was, I don't know. Ifthat tells you something, well, it
probably tells you that you don't watchthe CW because the CW, I mean,
unless I don't think Dawson's Creek's onthere anymore? Or what else was

(01:35:36):
on their one Tree Hill? Yeah? Yeah, okay, I don't know
what they're but you know it's alot of syndicated stuff and they do have
certain things on there. Yeah,check on check and c on that time.
I'll look right now, actually,because I think CW is more widely
distributed certainly than the PAC twelve networkwas. But here's the dumb part about
this. This is this Washington Statehas one if if the Apple cups not

(01:36:00):
in Pullman, they have one guaranteedsellout every year right, pretty much guaranteed
sellout. It's with it. They'llput ninety five to one hundred percent capacity.
It's the most sought after ticket ayear. It's a little thing called
Dad's Weekend. I know they can'tcall it anymore because we've got to be
right parents weekend, But it's Dad'sweekend. It's Dad's week in the fault.
It's a huge event. Anybody listeningthat had kids go to wazoo where

(01:36:23):
we went to wasaazoo. You knowwhat Dad's Weekends all about. It's crazy.
Friday night is party time. Youwalk around Greek Row or the apartment
land, have fun, you know, hang out with your kid, you
know, experience college. It's crazy, it's fun. It's a ton of
and then Saturday you get up andyou tailgate and you go to the football
game. Well, they scheduled Dad'sWeekend for September twentieth this year. For

(01:36:46):
some reason, they scheduled it beforethe TV schedule came out. Dad's Weekend
game is on a Friday, SanJose State. They knew they were going
to get a Friday game along theway. That's just going to happen,
and it's fine. I listen beggars, can't eat users. You're not in
a big you're not in a realconference or playing a Mountain West schedule.
What have you can get right?But you have Dad's weekend game on a

(01:37:06):
Friday night. Is there a chanceto change that? I don't even know
if they I would. I thinkyou would. I think you've changed it.
I've changed it to Hawaii. Yeah, first of yes, but right
now that's Dad's weekend. I giveup, man, I like you just
this is what happens when you don'thave an athletic director. They still haven't

(01:37:28):
hired one full time. Am McCoy'sthe introm She's fine, but she's not
she's not a power five. Andeven though you're not a power five today,
you hope to be there Sunday again, athletic director. This is so
bad. If I was, ifI was a parent still with a kid
there, Like if this was fiveyears, I'd be sideways. I already
have text people coming in going yougot to be kidding me, man,

(01:37:49):
this is the dumbest thing in theworld. Hey, a lot of people
like that maybe don't go to Wazooor haven't experienced that. Oh, the
game's a day before why does thatmatter? It messes up everything over the
traditional part that but the weekend,you know, because it's here's the thing.
Not everybody can take Fridays off,right. We live in a world
where a lot of people think youcan. You can't. A lot of

(01:38:09):
people actually have jobs, can't dothat. And you stay Friday Saturday,
You've made your hotel reservations and allthat kind of stuff, and they they
basically just gouge you beyond belief asit is for that. But I just
another offshoot of just how bad it'sgoing to be for our school in this
new environment that we're in. Imean, I looked at the schedule.
I wanted to hurl as it wasPortland State, Texas Tech, Okay,

(01:38:30):
whatever, they're big twelve team SantjoseState, Hawaii, Utah State, Wyoming.
God, my goodness, just settingin now what's happening? You know,
not now as much as I've knownit, but to see it there
in print, to see those sixgames, it's just kind of a kick
in the and then and then theworst. The other thing that just as

(01:38:51):
dumb is that like our our rivalnow should be Oregon State. That's not
even our last game of the year, like it's Washington State organ State on
the twenty third and the Oregon Stateslast game of the year. They play
on the road somewhere. They playedthe Mountin West team on the road.
They make this because people are stupidAnders. This is this is the world

(01:39:14):
we live in. There's just whatdo we say with Greg earlier when we're
talking about the NFL schedule and whythey have to keep the leagues conferences.
Sports don't care about the fan inthe stands at all, and do not
care about the fan and the stands. You know, we complain a lot
about the Mariners, and rightfully so, like there's a lot of things to
complain about the baseball team. Youknow, the one thing they do care
about is the people in the stands. Yeah, like they care about the

(01:39:36):
game experience in the stands. Theycare about It's up. Demis wrote a
big article on it today. It'sup significantly. And it's not because the
team's playing great. They're playing okay, Yeah, it's because they care.
The experience at Team Mobile Park isawesome. They have awesome marketing events and
I'll just I'll give you another one. Fantastic. Our friends, the krackn
do a terrific job in arena,Like even when you have a boring hockey

(01:39:59):
team that does the score goals,which kind of happened a little bit this
year in the first year. Inthe first year, the experience in the
building is good. Yeah, themusic is good. Chef Buchanan's a phenomenal
PA announcer. They do a greatjob with live music there. Everything they
do is good. Football doesn't care. And I think they're bigger than they
think. They're bigger than that.I get it, but like the in
game experience should matter and they shouldcare about the fans and stands. Okay,

(01:40:21):
we'll come back. We'll check thetext, voice text, we have
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