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M's disappointing again yesterday, and somewhere the Molly Whoppers are saying,
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Mariners are? Ice cold free, straight losses, five to four,
walk off six games back in the AL West, because
Houston did lose as well, but still five and a
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They're not even trying to win, and yet they did.
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They put in the connecticuts on back to back game. Yeah,
I was curious about that. Too. It's like a home

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and home. Didn't they just way away? Didn't they just
lose to them? Yes, Okay, they lose a lot. That's
part of what they do. Leon Dryslattle, big contract. We'll
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All right, so get that At two thirty five today,
I'm gonna read you something off X. We're gonna do
some Seahawks coming up at twelve twenty Joe Sheen at
one o'clock Cougar's Roundtable MK and Alex at two o'clock.
All right, I'm wanna read this to you guys, and
I'm gonna throw something at you because it does feel
like groundhog Day. God, I'm just I'm tired of it.
I'm so tired of it. So let's see No Mad's

(04:48):
os rs on the old x dot com thing yesterday,
says quote. This is the response to, I think teasing
our Mollywop show. Can you stop talk talking about the
Mariner's abysmal season for three hours a day so I
can listen to some to listen to some Huskies coog
Seahawks news instead of switching over to a different station,
not the other sports station, by the way, just to

(05:10):
a different station. He wants to rock on. I'd appreciate it.
That's from No Mads, So he wants us to stop talking,
which led me to think for about for a second,
is hashtag refuse to talk coming back into play. Are
we needing to go down that road? Dangerous? We needing
to go down the refuse to talk road again, We're

(05:31):
not going to so so spoiler, We're not going to
I'm not going to do that. But it is interesting
because that caught my attention from this standpoint, we and
I you know, and this isn't a shot at any
other show because I'm looking in the mirror when I'm
saying this. We are all doing the same damn thing

(05:52):
every bloody day. We are doing the exact same thing
we come on the air. I didn't even look and see,
Hang on a second, what did I keep the show
sheet from Ashley this morning?

Speaker 9 (06:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Are the Mariners done? Not mathematically, but sure feels like
that Mayor's Morning after Logan Gilbert struggles in one inning.
That's all it takes. Let's see more Mariners. Maria's issues
don't seem to be who they acquire, but instead that
the people they acquire suddenly can't play all things that
we've all talked about at a million times. That was
their morning show. We're doing the same thing. Everyone's doing

(06:23):
the same thing. It's over and over and over again.
Then I pick up the old Athletic this morning, like
it's a newspaper, and I'm looking at the Athletic. Ken
Rosenthal writes a story, and it was a really interesting
story in this sense. He said, you know, there's a
bunch of fan bases that want their front offices turfed,
blown up, get rid of the Marriag's being one of them.

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This is from Rosenthal's story. The Mariners are run by
yet another inert owner, John Stanton. They achieved a major
breakthrough in twenty twenty two and again twenty one year
postseason drought at that time the longest and professional sports.
But what have they done in the two seasons since?
Drawing criticism? Cal Rawley led the Majors and strikeout a
second straight year and replaced manager Scott's service with Dan Wilson.

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The team has since gone five and four, with Wilson
still faces long playoff odds, wasting the best pitching staff
in the majors. President of Baseball Operation Jerry Depoto is
completing his ninth season. His sloppy handling of service dismissal
only added a fan frustration, but he seems to maintain
Stanton's confidence and would be an upset if the team
started over. Rosenthal doesn't think they're getting rid of him

(07:27):
in nerd owner in other words, someone that's unwilling to
do anything. That would be John Stanton, stay the course,
stay Stan pats Ware, we go, and that's what it is.
But I read that, I read that tweet post whatever
we call it now an X and I thought, God,
I don't even know what to do or how to
approach it anymore. Because there's days when you get angry,

(07:49):
there's days that you just are apathetic. There's days that
you just shake your head. And most days are just
like the day before. It's the same stuff over and
over again. And they're a five hundred baseball team. They
have the worst record in the American League West since
the middle of June, including the team that's not trying
to win, the Oakland A's who did beat them last night,
and the Angels who just took two or three from them.

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They both have better records in Seattle in the last
couple of months. And we see the pitching staff on
the road doesn't look the same. That just doesn't look
the same. I don't know if it's a confidence thing,
it's between their ears. What it is you know Gilbert, Yeah,
I had a bad inning sort of just wasn't as

(08:32):
sharp as normal. I wonder at some point with that
pitching staff, how trying it is for them, How hard
it is knowing that you cannot have one bad inning?
You can't. Who was it? That was Robbie Ray? Wasn't it?
That was a Robbie Ray thing? Which one one bad inning?

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
That was no? No, oh Casia, No, ro did't Robbie
Ray have that? That was like Robbie Ray said? Yeah,
he said that, like think, hey, it's been every year,
it's been someone else, but it was yeah. It was
like I went, but they can't their margin arya zero. Yeah,
but that that little tweet text whatever reply, Can you
stop talking about the abysmal season three hours a day?

(09:11):
We're not talking about them three hours a day. But
I don't know what else to do. Man, if you
guys don't want us to talk about about them, telling
me four nine four or five one, if you think
refuse it, talk's a good idea. Now that football season's here.
It's just frustrating because I think what Rosenthal wrote struck
home with me. The inert owner, the guy that's unwilling
to do anything, move on from anything. That's probably what

(09:32):
Stanton is and I think that's the frustration for Mariners
fans when you know they still have a chance to
get to the playoffs, Like we all know that. So
that's fine. Do they they have a chance, They're they're
I mean, well, they have twenty three games left, twenty
four games left, and they're six out, five out, five
and a half hour. I mean mathematically, yes, realistically that's slipping.

(09:55):
They could get on listen. They could also get on
a hot streak and do it. But we I been
saying that for three months, so let's assume it doesn't happen. Okay,
here's my point. Though they don't get to that point.
They don't get there. If that's fine. The words Rosenthal
used and helped me out here. Did Rosenthal break the
story on service, Yes, it's funny that he uses the term,

(10:19):
you know, the mishandling of that. He's the one affected
by it. Everyone's pissed at him because but he's dialed in. Yeah,
he's dialed in. Yeah, he's totally dialed in. So when
he tells us that Stanton's not going to move on,
I don't even know what A is a Mara fan
what you're rooting for. Because I brought this up a
couple of weeks ago, there's been a couple instances in

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our town or with our fan bases that I can
point to specifically and say, you were probably rooting against
your team because you knew if the inevitable happened and
it was bad enough, they would make a change. Mine
was Ernie Kent. He was lazy, he stole money from
Washington State University. He didn't recruit, didn't try, he just

(11:03):
collected a check, and Moose kept rolling the contract over.
I finally got to the point I just lose, just lose,
just make it so the former athletic director who's now
over here had to make a move and fire you.
It is the same thing with Tylerne Willingham that you
does and Tyrone Williams the other guy. And I think
to a certain extent, I'm want to put words in
Dick's mouth, but I think Fame kind of mentioned that
even last year, Like at some point with Hopkins, you're like,

(11:25):
just lose, like we'll just let's move on, because you
knew they would make a move. The problem with the
Mariners is twofold one. They are still kind of in
it two. Now, this could change in two weeks or
a week. Do you ever get to the point where
you just wanted to implode and blow up? Do you want?
We mentioned it yesterday on the show, and I think
it's an important thing. This is what we're going to

(11:45):
talk about today instead of refusing to talk. At what
point do you root against him? I don't think you do,
because reading between the lives of world though, they're not
getting rid of Stanton, and that's the only thing that
would appease fans right now, because they're not selling the team.
That's the only thing that would appease people. And to
make any difference, I don't know. But my god, you're
gonna give him a tenth year and one playoff appearance?

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It makes no sense?

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and we'll have a more or objective view of what's

(13:02):
going on with our local baseball team in the playoff racing,
so much more that's coming up at one o'clock today,
all right. Seahawks open up this season coming up on
Sunday against the Denver Broncos. Season forty nine for your
Seattle Seahawks, getting close to that's half say. They have won
a championship, they have been to three Super Bowls and
one to one. They've done things that the baseball team
hasn't done. They've they playoffs in the last ten years,

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and they came into existence one year apart nineteen seventy
six FLA Hawks nineteen seventy seven for the Mariners. They
don't stay complacent inert ownership is not part of who
what they are with Jody and Bert Cold and what
have you. And it's a funny dynamic there because they're
despised as an ownership group in Portland with the Blazers

(13:43):
and up here they're kind of, I don't want to
say revered, but I think if you're a Seahawks fan,
you feel pretty good about where they are in the
se a pretty good light. Yeah, well, they don't. They
don't stand complacent. They don't. They don't stand pat and
they there's this expectation that they fired a coach that
went to the damn that won a Super Bowl. That's
all you need to know, which I love about them. Now,

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one of the reasons they fired Pete Carroll, and let's
reintroduce everybody to that, it was not he wanted to stay.
He said he wanted to stay. They fired him. But
one of the reasons they fired Pete was the defense.
These were the rankings last season, and I'm just going
to read through them. Thirty if, twenty fifth, thirty first,
twenty seventh, twenty first, twenty fourth, thirty second, thirtieth, twenty fourth, twentieth,

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they were minus fifty yards a game, which was twenty
eighth in the league in terms of net yards as well.
Those are the defensive numbers, the key defensive numbers. Sounds
like Mariners batting rankings, very close to that. So they
got rid of Pete Carroll. They brought in Mike McDonald,
who thought to be the pre eminent this is the
best big defensive mine in the NFL. Time will tell
what he's like without the Baltimore Ravens infrastructure around him,

(14:58):
without John Harbaugh round him, without the talent that he
had there around him. But I think early indications are
Mike McDonald certainly knows what he's doing, and I think
I think this is a sneaky good football team. We've
been saying it for a while. They've got better talent
than their numbers have shown. Certainly last year injuries to
Nuosu and I know he starts the season out for

(15:20):
a couple of weeks probably, but his injury crushed his team.
The Jamal Adams Quandre Diggs twosome was just not good
and kind of brought some other people down. Rieke Wollen
had a step back year wasn't as good as he
was the year before. You know, Mafe was hit or
miss had that great streak of seven straight games right
with the sack, and then didn't do anything in the
other games of the year. So there's there's a lot
of things that that you know, you look out there

(15:41):
and go, okay, well, what'll we correct it changed the
secondary Love gets I mean, Julian Love made the Pro
Bowl last season. For what it's worth. I mean everyone
almost does, but no, he actually legitimately made the Pro Bowl.
He wasn't an Yeah, he wasn't Russell Wilson's the ninth quarterback.
We're going to ask, you know, put that on my resume. No,
he he was actually a Pro Bowler, And and there
was a stretch in the first third of the season

(16:02):
where he was playing less than fifty percent of the
defensive snaps because Jamal was back. So they've got Julian now,
they've got probably a better option next to him in
the secondary, Send Jenkins. I think Greek Wollan's going to
bounce back. Devin Witherspend in year two is gonna be
a stud. Questions it inside linebacker, We get that, But
this is a team that should be better defensively. They
see a rookie quarterback making his first start in Game

(16:24):
one against the Seahawks and bo Knicks, and I think
there's a lot to be excited about. Jaron Reed's been
here for a lot of it. His ninth year in
the National Football League, was here, went to Kansas City,
went to Green Bay, came back last season. Jaren Reid
yesterday talks about how he feels about this team heading
into Week one.

Speaker 9 (16:44):
Feel real good. I feel like we're now we're all focused.

Speaker 10 (16:47):
We wore hard this whole training account for this moment
coming up Sunday, and I think we're all down there
ready to go, getting ahead of the schedule.

Speaker 9 (16:53):
Now we're ready to go compete Sunday.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
I've been about You've got no hand.

Speaker 9 (17:00):
It's been real good. You know, I say it all
the time.

Speaker 10 (17:03):
I feel like he brought that old school football something
that you know, there's no shots or anything, but I
feel I feel like it's been missed for a little bit.

Speaker 9 (17:10):
You know.

Speaker 10 (17:10):
We bring the physicality back and bring the mentality back
of playing grown men football for all four quarters.

Speaker 11 (17:16):
And Jared, you've got a mix of vets and young
guys on the line and on the defense in general.
Talk a little bit about that, that mix of experience
and youth.

Speaker 9 (17:25):
I think I think it's good.

Speaker 10 (17:26):
You know, we got some good guys that can go
out Here's some young guys to go ahead, run all
day and then just listen to us talking bark at
them sometimes. But uh, you know, it's it's up to
us as veterans to bring those young guys alone. Now,
I'm just teaching the game and teaching what we know
the same and we all been through the same cycle
and it's the same thing, just repeat itself. But I think,
you know, the better group you got for young guys,

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the easier it is because they could listen, go out
here and work hard and produce. I'm oh, I'm excited.
I haven't seen what he could do. It's time for
him to go out there and show the world. There's
no pressure on him to go out there and do
anything outside the order near If he should let the
game call to himself, He's gonna make a lot of
players this season.

Speaker 9 (18:03):
I'm excited to see it myself.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Point in your career, Okay, on school football, did this
is your coachat kind?

Speaker 8 (18:09):
On smoking talent?

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (18:11):
I think he does. I think he does.

Speaker 10 (18:12):
The way we practice, I think it shows that you
know what's going here, you know, putting the paths on,
you know, getting a little raster dolls here and there,
getting a little rough around the edges. Practice gets intense sometimes,
but that's what you need as a football team. You know,
it's a grown man's sport.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
At what point in your career did you go from
that young guy running around all the time that you
got young enough plach.

Speaker 10 (18:31):
For me, I think it was pretty early. I think
it was the game my either my rookie or my
second year. We were playing San fran and I I
missed up a play that might be was talking about
the whole entire time, and then you know, I got
tued out by my vest I think that's when I
hit the turning cut, turning curve.

Speaker 9 (18:45):
Excuse me of learning how to be a pro.

Speaker 10 (18:47):
And I took the approach, you know, just making sure
I get in the playbook, make sure I'm on pointing
my plays, and making sure I'm preparing my mind and
my body every day each week.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
How long did Mike better remind you?

Speaker 10 (18:58):
I think still to this day, they don't let it
go him and Cliff and Jaron.

Speaker 11 (19:03):
Uh, the Broncos brings some good run blocking and some
good running backs.

Speaker 9 (19:06):
Uh, it's jock struggle defending the run.

Speaker 11 (19:08):
Last year he talked about how you guys are gonna
change that this season.

Speaker 10 (19:12):
Yeah, I think we just go out there and instacute
our plays. You know, what's the league. Stuff happens. But
I think we're gonna be pretty stout. They're all pretty good.
I'm not gonna speak a head of I said, we
all go out there and instacute our plays and just
go out there try to stop what they're trying to
bring in Sunday.

Speaker 11 (19:24):
How much does Jonathan Hankins help in that run defense?

Speaker 9 (19:27):
Oh a lot. You know, we g better and got
a lot of experience.

Speaker 10 (19:30):
I think as what year twelve for him, Uh, he's
played a lot of football, so the game is really
slow for him and he could play those blocks and
he can help us out by talking, talking and communicating
about what he sees before the play.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
You guys talk a lot about communication on defense throughout throughout.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
How do you feel like where where that is now?

Speaker 9 (19:45):
I think it's good.

Speaker 10 (19:45):
I mean, if you guys can just hear what goes on,
that feel it's a lot of talking and you gotta listen,
you gotta be cute and uh, even though it's up front,
you know, we got a lot of talking to do
as well. They all correlates with each other. That's how
we practice to uh when we get in through the morning,
through meetings, and it carries over to the pret.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
There you go, just Jared Reary, cold things jump out.
One girl man football, big boy football, which is in
you know, we've heard the word violence used a ton
this year from guys on the defensive side of the football.
I'm excited to see what this what this team really
looks like, not preseason looks like, but really looks like
on Sunday because the mindset from everyone we spoke to

(20:23):
when we were out there for training camp every day,
the interviews we've had, we had Jaron on the show,
Mike Morris, we have a bunch of defensive guys over
those few weeks. We've had other guys on Derek Hall
since then, and they just use words like violence and
you know, big boy football and stuff like that all
the time. I thought what Jaren said was a little

(20:44):
striking when he mentioned, yeah, we got away from that
the last couple of years, which is so weird to
think that's Pete Carroll man, that's like Pete Carroll. That's
the gregarious, happy Pete Carroll put together the meanest, nastiest,
most terrifying, intimidating defenses for a number of years here

(21:06):
in Seattle and somewhere that just got lost along the way.
I still think a lot of it has to do
with two things. One, assistant coaches that just weren't replaced
at the same level. But two, to have that mindset.
You can preach it, you can practice it, you can
talk about it all you want, but you've got to
have players that are willing to embrace that and have

(21:29):
that same mindset. It does start with the coach. I
don't think Pete got soft. I think he just had
some guys around him and the coaching staff that weren't
as good and the players didn't have that same mindset.
Coming in. Now you have a new voice in Mike
McDonald's new staff, on that entire new staff, they're preaching that,

(21:49):
and you do have some alpha dogs out there. You
do have some guys that have that attitude. I mean,
Devin Witherspoon. It totally starts with him, smallest guy in
a sense on the defense, and yet the biggest attitude
it starts with him. Is he already taken like a
leadership right in a certain way. Yeah, yeah, in a
certain in a certain sense. But it's got to come

(22:09):
from other guys. Jenna has that. Jenna really has that.
He's so well spoken, so articulate. Sometimes it might go
past people. Jenna has that. I've been on the sideline.
I'm telling you right now. Jenna has that. They need him.
Jenon Reed has that. Leonard Williams has that, but it
just didn't come through last season. So I think this

(22:30):
defense is quite a bit better. I really I think.
I think it's got a different attitude, but I think
it's better and schematically they're going to be better because you
have a guy that is a mind that is different
level in terms of how he designs a defense, how
he runs a defense. He's calling the defensive plays. He's
done that before. It's not like a new coordinator, a
new play caller. He's done it in the NFL. Now

(22:52):
he's just doing it as a head coach. I think
you should be damn excited now. The other side of
the football, I thought last year was still a strength geno,
maybe quarterback tier three and ranked number twenty one in
the tiers and all these other things. That's fine. You
got guys, you got absolute dudes on the offense, Ken
Walker dk JSN in year two. And the guy that

(23:16):
flies under the radar maybe the most typical Seattle thing
of all, because the Seahawks flying under the radar this year.
I think you're a better football team than people think.
I agree. And a guy that has flown under the
radar his entire career is Tyler Lockett. Fifty receiving touchdowns
since twenty eighteen. That's six in the NFL in the

(23:36):
last five years. Like that's crazy. One hundred is his
number single season franchise record for receptions in twenty twenty,
third most one hundred yard games in franchise history. You
can make a really strong argument second best receiver this
franchise has ever had, behind Steve Largent. I mean, he's
had a really really good career and seems to make

(23:58):
nothing but big catches. Tyler Lockett yesterday talks about entering
already year number ten of his career.

Speaker 12 (24:07):
It's a blessing to me still to be a year ten.
I mean, there's still a good amount of guys that
I came in draft class that still being able to
play and they're still playing at a high level or
still being able to be on the team and stuff,
and so I think it's a blessing all around. We
always say it's three and a half as the average,
and so I mean, basically beat that day there three times.

Speaker 9 (24:28):
I figure it is.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Get a ufens supportage comes to.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
A U offense, it's got to the little pep in
your steps.

Speaker 9 (24:34):
A little bit.

Speaker 12 (24:35):
Yeah, I mean sometimes you know, new is good, you
know what I mean, Like, I mean, it's hard to
imagine if you were in the same offense for ten
straight years, like if there will be any excitement you
know for you coming in, like meetings will be a
lot more difficult because you know everything left and right,
you know, because you've been a part of something for
so long. And I think for me it's been interesting

(24:57):
because I think every three years I've had a new offen.
It's a coordinator, and so it's allowed me to approach
the game different and it's allowed me to see the
game different and learn different ways and unique abilities to
be able to use my skills to go out there
and still try to do the same thing that I've
been doing. So it's fun learning from each offensive coordinator
that I've been under. What he liked about this, ah, well,

(25:21):
I mean, I think we all saw Udub play last year.
So I think it was very exciting, and I think,
you know, so many of us get so caught up
in man they were able to throw the ball.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
They threw the ball forty or fifty times.

Speaker 12 (25:32):
But I mean, I think it's incredible that you even
have a running back that rushed for a thousand yards,
you know, while doing that. And so what that showed
me was regardless of whatever a team decided to do,
if they wanted to take away the pass, we had dynamic.
They had dynamic running backs to be able to make plays.
When you look at if they wanted to take away
some of the run, they was able to throw the

(25:53):
ball downfield be explosive. If they took away explosive, they
just deconduct all the way down the field. So I
think I think it's very creative the way that Grub is.
You know, with the little amount of time that I've
been around him, I think like he's super sophisticated and
I think he sees the game a lot different than
how I've kind of seen it in the past. But
you know, definitely looking forward to being able to learn

(26:15):
and grow because as I kind of learned kind of
like his his scheme and how he does things.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
I think it's a really cool idea.

Speaker 11 (26:22):
Tyler, you've had explosive play throughout your career a little
bit less last year. Do you think this scheme is
getting to give you a chance to get back to
kind of your explosive voice.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
I mean, it just depends on how they decided to
utilize me.

Speaker 12 (26:34):
I mean last year, yeah, like some of the explosives
and stuff went away, But at the same time, I
wasn't asked to do a lot of explosive things. So
of course, like on paper, it looks bad, but like
for me, I'm just being a teammate that they asked
me to be. Sometimes I got to be the decoy
and I got to be able to run and get
other people open. Sometimes, you know, I had beat a
defender and me and Geno just weren't able to connect.

(26:56):
Sometimes I didn't get into my drawt phase a lot.
More so, there's a lot of scenario. Sometimes I make
a player. It's a flag on the play, you know,
So there was a lot of things that may have
happened or where things didn't work out, But I think
the one thing for me was just to just be
able to keep fighting, keep playing. At the end of
the day, sometimes you need a lot of things to
work out. As a receiver, you need to make sure
it's not a flag. You need to make sure the
line blocks, make sure the throwers right there, make sure

(27:18):
you catch the ball, make sure the defense is doing
what you want them to do. And so I mean,
going into this year, obviously, like you know, you learn
each week how they decide to utilize you. But you know,
if they want me to go out there and be
a decoy, that's what I got to do. It's my job,
right If they want me to go out there and
I'm getting, however many targets, and I'm gonna do the
best that I can to be able to make those
targets work. But for me, you know, going into year ten,

(27:40):
I want to be able to be the best version
of myself. Whether that's blocking because I could do a
way better job of blocking, whether that's being a better decoy,
whether that's getting myself open, like I'm at the point
now where I want to be able to take my
game to another level, regardless of age, regardless of years.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
They really kind of treat him with kid gloves throughout
the preseason too. You know, it didn't play preseason games
and has sat out some time getting his legs fresh.
As he talked about too, Tyler Lockett's second place in
franchise history and receptions yards and receiving touchdowns. The guy's
number one is Steve Largent in the Hall of Fame,
and rightfully so weird weird about that decent company. When

(28:16):
he makes his first reception, more than likely it will
put him over eight thousand career yards in receiving, which
will be the second player in franchise history to do
that behind Largent. Last season, he also had a heck
of a season or had another one last year he
became the second player in franchise history ninety fourth in
NFL history with six hundred career receptions. This guy just

(28:38):
as a catching machine. And he's four touchdowns away from
passing Marshawn Lynch for third place all time in Seattle
touchdowns behind obviously Large and I think the other one
be Alexander probably so that's I mean, he's had that,
He's had this great career. The numbers though for this
team offensively, they're very similar in some ways to what

(28:58):
the defense did. You look at them and you're like,
there's just no way that that was the case. The
one I look at more than anyone is third down.
I think that's the one that they have to improve upon.
They were bad on third down on defense, and they
were not good third down offense. Third down offense, they
were twenty third in the NFL. They couldn't get off
the field and they couldn't stay on the field. If

(29:22):
you can just flip those we talk about with the
baseball team, there's certain numbers if you could just flip
them a little bit, it would make a world of difference.
There's another number I'll get to the next segment. But
from my mind, I mean, you cannot be a playoff
team if you're on the bottom four or five in
terms of third down defense and if you're twenty third

(29:43):
and third down offense. The fact that they were nine
to eight last season, I still think speaks to one
to two things. One Pete, but two and Pete needed
to go. They it was time to make a change. Yeah,
but number two, it speaks to the fact that there
is talent on this team, Like statistically, they had no
business being where they were with one game over five hundred.

(30:06):
Next day, just there's one other thing I want hit on.
Will wrap up the Seahawks in the first hour, because
there is another number out there that just has to change.
It must change, it has to change. If it doesn't,
all what we're talking about is moot, and maybe they
will be a team that not only flies under the radar,
but isn't even on the radar, because if they can't
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We need a bounce back. We have to have a
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It cannot happen. Well, apparently it's aften dick of one
in the last like four or five. I don't think
we've really kept accurate records, so I.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Can only confirm the last two years because those are
the only that I've been in charge of.

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(32:58):
the third down conversion has to change six twenty third
in the league last year. The other thing that just
it boggled my mind. But then I looked and said, okay,
well I get these There were injuries along the way,
but more than anything was the offensive line. This team
last season in terms of rushing yards per game was
twenty eighth in the NFL. And I just I do

(33:22):
not In fact, I'm just gonna look and see. So
you know, Baltimore was one, San Francisco was three, Detroit
was five, Miami, Buffalo, Philadelphia all guy, all teams that
were up there. I'm just trying to find a team
that was. Cincinnati was a bad rushing team. They were
thirty first. They were a playoff team. Yeah, right, when
the playoff team do they make the playoffs? They may

(33:44):
not have, right, Yeah, that's right. Browning kind of had
made a run at the end but did not make it.
But these are the teams that were at the bottom
of the barrel in terms of rushing. New England, Washington, Seattle, Minnesota,
Las Vegas, Cincinnati, Tampa Bay. Just you got to run
the ball better, you got to take some pressure off
your quarterback and let those other receivers kind of just

(34:04):
loosen up a little bit. They've got to be better,
and I think they will be because I think the
offensive line is going to be better. It may not
be elite, it may not be even above average, if
it can be close, if it can be improved closer
to what it was a couple of years ago. God,
they need Lucas back, but they should be better. I
think they're going to be better at center, for sure.

(34:24):
I think they're going to be better at left guard.
Cross I think healthy. I mean the fact that he's
been healthy has been not spoken about a lot. He
had a great, I mean great training camp and we've
had conversations with Cosell in the past, with our Budy
great Cosell. We won't have him on this week because
I'm off Friday, but starting next week. Cosell was kind
of down on him last year. I thought he regressed

(34:46):
a little bit. I think it was health. I think
it was because he was never healthy last season. The
tow and everything else was going on with Charles Cross.
If Cross can be what they expect him like, this
will be a better offensive line and a better offensive
team and let Ken walk or do his stuff. Have
you had fantasy drafts tomorrow tomorrow? Yeah? Okay, that's why
Walker's an interesting guy. Walker's and Walker is an interesting guy.

(35:08):
I think Walker's have a great year. I think he
is too. I think he's a thousand yard but.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
A lot of people think of the air attack when
it comes to ryandguard offense, but he actually uses his
running back some other people.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I think two things. I think, and we'll talk to
Funds and Thursday. I think Conrad Williams is going to go.
Is getting drafted way too high by people are because
does he stay healthy? And yeah, I got Blake Korum
behind you, Tim Blake Korham And yes, Blake Orum number
two got him late, I think. But I think the
other guy, I think ken Walker kind of flies under

(35:37):
the radar. The question is how much is Sharbon a fact?
I just don't think one man's opinion. Yeah, there is
a massive difference in terms of talent just make you
miss ability. Yeahar is a good player, right, but the
make you miss ability and the breakaway speed of ken
Walker is different.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Well, and the biggest question with him is his receiving.
They didn't target him very much last year. No, no,
I am agreed.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
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to three, tied it up four to four, lost in
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Weird quirk in the schedule Cincinnati losers Yester RBS Houston
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lost again yesterday. They lost twenty eight thirteen to Boston College.
They're zero to two as well. During the season, they

(37:17):
fell out of the New AP Top twenty five. They
were tenth. They're now not ranked. Texas A and M
was twentieth. Now they're not ranked. A couple teams do
move into the top ten or top twenty five as well.
We should also mention top two remains unchained. Georgia Ohio
State are one two. USC jumps up ten spots to
number thirteen after their win over LSU. I'm to talk

(37:39):
some baseball. A guy standing by, maybe he can get
some answers for us for this Dan Mariner's team Joshian Right.

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With the one and only Joe Sheian big thanks to
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we're back in the normal time slot. Joe is with
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We need answers out here. Are you willing to give

(38:26):
us some answers?

Speaker 5 (38:28):
I can, but the first I just want to I
heard a little note right at the end there as
you were coming in, what team jumped up ten spots
in the eight people?

Speaker 2 (38:34):
That would be the USC Trojans.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
I'm sorry I could share it again.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Oh I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing.
It took me a second. Hey they look good.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
I got to get this.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
They look good.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
This is Big ten rivalry with you, dub going.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
They look good? Well, yeah, because because they never had
that in the big in the Pac twelve. Oh wait,
wait a second, they look good, man, USC, I thought
I thought they look really good. To be honest with you.
In their game against LSU, their defense weird. When you
get rid of Alex Grinch, by the way, they're old
DC was he was in Pullman with Mike Leach and

(39:10):
I saw him lose to Portland State and Eastern Washington
and consecutive years. So yeah, there's something there that is
called coaching. And it seems like Lincoln Riley might have
found a little answer along the way for your team.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Still some tackling issues, but it was a very fun
Sunday night watching that game.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Fine, it's so nice too the NFL just backs off
and actually gives you know, somebody else a treat, which
would be you know, college football all weekend, that first
weekend before they take over every major holiday, every day
of the week, including Friday this week. Oh, by the way,
we still have baseball races going on as well in
the Major League Baseball. We are sitting here just twisting

(39:49):
in the win, Joe, and you know, I don't know
if you can make us feel better, worse, or about
the same. But our five hundred baseball team at sixty
nine and sixty nine now with three straight losses, a
series loss to the Angels, first game, walkoff loss to
the A's from thirty thousand feet, We'll get a little
bit deeper We've been talking about them all season. What

(40:11):
are you seeing with the now Dan Wilson led Seattle
mentors Because it doesn't seem like anything's changed.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Well, there's nothing can change. I mean, you know, Wilson's
been handed the same roster that Scott Servis had. There's
not like there were It's not like there was like
a player on the bench and say, okay, well this
guy should be playing. You know, Wilson's gonna play it.
The roster is what it is. That they got Crawford back,
I think right around the same time they fired Service.
You know, that's an improvement. But the Mariners are the
team they were for five months. When they get a

(40:37):
good start, they can probably win the game. And when
they don't, they're in trouble. You know yesterday Logan Gilbert there,
I think at this point they're unquestioned ACE with a
bad start, giving up the big two or three on
Homer Shaye Lengeliers. Uh, and that's a spot from which
the Mariners are going to struggle. Like if you hand
Logan Gilbert a three to one lead, I think it's

(40:58):
actually a three year of US three early. That's a
game they have to win and I don't want to.
That's unfair to Gilbert. It's unfair to ask any starter
to be near perfect every time out. But that's a
game the Mariners simply can't afford to lose because there
are a lot of Knights. They're not going to score
three runs. They're not going to score four runs like
they did over the course of the entire game. So
anytime the Mariners get to four, it feels like they

(41:19):
have to win that game. Especially the A's are more
competitive than they were a year ago. They're not the
laughing stock of baseball that's two thousand miles to the east.
But I I just that's an opportunity you can't lose,
and there just aren't enough There's not enough time left
to lose that game. You mentioned them being, you know,
another dust around five hundred for a while. They're six
back of the Astros, and that's important because you know

(41:42):
they have three games with the Astros later this year
and at the minute May and you could at least
always hold on to that and say, hey, look, if
we're three out, two out, four out, we control our
own destiny. We can go into Houston and sweep them
and make up the ground we need. But if you're
if you slipped to five, six, seven out, you sweep
in Houston and you've still got other work to do.

(42:03):
So this is where the loss of ground here in
recent weeks is really going to hurt. But it takes
away the importance of that one series that's really the
only They've got the two games with the Padres, three
games with the games of the Yankees, so they should
have an opportunity to pick up some wins. The Rangers,
to me, are better than their record. The A's I
get some games up with them, but I just it
doesn't feel like it's gonna happen as somebody who said

(42:23):
all year this team would be in it to the end.
It's definitely been a disappointing one.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
So help us out with how to handicap this. From
the standpoint of the following, they're five and a half
out of the wild card spot, which is being the
last one being held down by Kansas City. Right now,
the Royals are, by the way, eleven games over five hundred.
Seattle is five hundred. They're five and a half games
behind the Royals. Boston is four and a half behind
the Royals. Detroit's a half game ahead of Seattle five

(42:51):
games out. So just among those teams, and let's just
use I guess we could probably we should use Minnesota
as well in that mix, Minnesota, Kansas City, Boston, Detroit, Seattle.
Who's the most blemished. It feels like it should be Detroit,
but maybe it is Seattle with its offense. Kind of
handicapped that little wildcard race for us because Houston is

(43:12):
what it is. We'll see what happens, but handicapped that
wildcard race because I'm assuming all these teams have some
pretty major blemishes on their roster.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Yeah, the Twins cat stay healthy. Losing Joe Ryan, one
of the top starting pitchers for the year. They did
drop off to you know, I guess it's been Louis
Barland that's been a little bit Zebbie Matthews taking that spot.
They gotten really hurt in that spot. You know, Buckston
hasn't been playing. Royce Lewis is back, but Carl's Korea
isn't playing. They just can't get their best team on
the field. All that often sticky of injuries. The Royals,

(43:42):
she basically hadn't had any injuries all year. They lost
Fitny Pasquentino for the year on a play at first
base last week. And that's a team that only had
basically three good hitters, so the len up was a
Jenga tower, and then he took out that last key piece.
They actually went out and basically made three waiver claims
and put them into the lineup. Tommy Fame, Tummy fam
Robbie Grossman, and Yuli Gurio, who becomes the first forty

(44:03):
year old hitter this year. We almost had a year
with no forty year old hitters, but Guriel's up of
the majors. Like those are the types of players the
Royals are picking up to try to hold on, but
we both chase the Guardians and hold on to a wildcard.
So I don't think either one of those teams is
all that strong at this point. The Red Sox on talent,
the Red Sox probably have their most talent, but they've
shown a pensions for not showing up offensively. They got

(44:25):
worked by Luis Saverino last night. A year at the city.
The Tigers have been a fun story. You know, we
don't really think of them as contending this year, but
again they're over five hundred, they're five out in the
wildcard They've gotten a lot of good work. You know,
we talked about Tyreck Scooble possibly the Alsa Award winner
this year, but you know, you look at what the
Resultson just came back. But they've gotten out of these
bullpen spots. They're using a bullpen game once sometimes twice

(44:48):
around the order. They've turned Kenton Maida to a bolt
guy behind an opener. He's pitched very well in that role.
J Hinch is not going to get votes from Manager
of the Year. That's going to go a lot to Stevensville.
Probably made me Matutarro, but if you look at the
work that he's done with this no name pitching staff
behind Schooble, the Tigers have been very effective. They've also
got a group of young hitters. Torquelsen's back up, thyk about,

(45:10):
Riley Green, Kerry Carpenter. They're the team that I think
is going to have a lot of heat going into
next year. But I don't think they can score enough.
I don't like the Mariners to make a run here.
So the Mariners six back to the Astros five and
a half back of this group of teams, but they
don't play any of them. And this is the thing.
With the new schedule, now you just end up with

(45:32):
all of these septembers. The Cubs are in a situation
similarly too, where they just don't play any teams in
front of them, so you're constantly hoping that four other
teams lose on a given night. So again, they're a
little bit closer to the wildcard. They don't control their
destiny in either race, and they're chasing a lot of
teams on the wildcard race. So it's a tough spot
to be and you really want those head to head games.

(45:52):
You want the ability to make up a full game
on the team in front of you. The Mariners just
won't have that.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Kansas City is seventy five and sixty four, as I mentioned,
but they've lost six in a row. You mentioned the injuries.
How worried should Royals? I mean, I know what we're
feeling here in Seattle. How warried should Royals fans be
it they can hold onto a spot.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
I'm be more worried if any of these teams were
all back good. This is the interesting thing about the
American Interesting might not be the word. The middle tier
of teams, and we're talking about the Mariners, the Rays,
the Red Sox, the Royals, the Twins. None of these
teams really played all the well. The only one that
has is the Tigers, but they started so far back
a month ago. Remember they sold off Jack Flaherty. They

(46:32):
didn't think of themselves as contenders, and they played very well.
Since none of these teams is really taking advantage, like,
you know, the Guardians really struggled in August, but either
the Twins. Though the Royals were able to come. The
Royals tied them for first place, blew a game, and
now they've lost six six in a row. The Twins
have never really been able to put anything together through
an extended run like this. Whole group of teams has

(46:52):
been disappointing. And it's unusual because in recent years it's
been the National League Wildcard race. There's been a whole
bunch of teams going, you know, four and six every
ten games and kind of limping into the playoffs. Last year,
the Wildcards had eighty four wins. Well, this year, the
Padres and Diamondbacks have played excellent baseball for three months now,
so the NL Wildcard race is actually this separation, but

(47:15):
it's better teams playing better baseball, whereas the American League
wildcard race is a whole bunch of teams limping to
the finish. The next team in this group, pick can
rip off six in a row, has a chance to
really help itself, But none of these teams have been
able to do that.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Can seattle ripoff a winning streak like that? And I
asked that just kind of not being flippant, but I mean,
anything's possible, Joe. But it almost feels like they're going
to have to do that, whether it's to get to
Houston or to get into a wildcard spot, They're going
to have to have like a week in which they
go five and one or six and zero or something
like that. I just I don't know if they're capable

(47:51):
of it, but it feels like that's what you have
to almost root for if you're a Mariner fan, Like
they're gonna have to get on a real heater.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Well, I mentioned the Twins, you know, getting nothing out
of that rotation spot that the Joe Ryan's heard they're
using rookies and six and seven starters there. They think
about the Tigers using a bullpen game once to the rotation.
The thing about the Mariners, and we mostly talked about
this in the context of a playoff run, but they
are the one team in this mix that might go

(48:19):
out and allow four runs in a week. That's what
this rotation gives them, that incredibly high floor. And again
Gilbert went out and got knocked around last night. That's
going to happen. But if there's one team in this mix,
like the best individual unit of any of the teams
we talked about today is the Mariners rotation. You know,
they talk about the the Red Sox line. I've talked about, Well,

(48:41):
the Guardians are out of this mix, but the Guardians bullpen.
But the best individual unit of any of these teams
is that Marlin's Marin is one through five. And yes,
so I think they have the potential to get on
a heater because they could just have a one week
stretch where they just don't allow any runs. Now, the
trick is, of course they could all I'm a one
week stretch with they'll scory runs. We've seen that plenty

(49:02):
of times. But if I'm going to bet on a
team to get hot, it's going to be on a
team that has that one particular unit that can go
off for a week. And I think that's the Barners.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Do you see Houston coming back at all to Seattle?

Speaker 13 (49:18):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Not on the schedule, hahaha, I don't. Yeah, they're they're
supposed to get Kyle Tucker, who's had the mother of
all shin injuries. They're finally admitting that it was a
broken shin, but they should get him back soon. And
of course, you know this, they've done pretty well even
without him, and they've got Verlanders back. He hasn't pitched
all that well since his return. The bullpen is shaping up.

(49:39):
They end have blown saved the other night, but I
mean they' they' bullpen shaping up really well now. So
you know, it's just it. Can I make up six
games in four weeks, like twenty seven games with just
the three head to head again, I go back to
the puncher's chance. Let's rephrase it. Can they make up
three games over the next two weeks and so they

(50:01):
played the Astros, might be three weeks until they play
the Astros. That's got to be the goal.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Now.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
The goal's got to be going to Houston three games
back and better. Obviously if you can do it, but
you're gonna have to win a lot of games. I
don't think the Astros have. Remember last year, almost the
exact same time we're talking now, the Astros lost seven
games to the A's, none of the seven games to
the world, but they had a stretch where it was like, oh,
they're playing the A's and the Royals, they're gonna be fine,
and they went like two and seven in those games.

(50:24):
So these are the things that can happen. The shorter
the timeframe we're talking about, the more variance takes over,
and a team can just lose or win games. It's uh,
lose games is supposed to win. Win games is supposed
to lose. So I think what the Marigons have to
focus on is less than the Astros are just going
out there and trying to maximize their run prevention and
give the offense a chance to score four runs and win.

(50:45):
I mean, that's this is not Americonis team. They're just
not gonna win a lot of games seven to six.
They've got to get that good starting pitching. They've got
to turn games over to the to the top guys
in the bullpen, maybe reduce you try to reduce this
staff now to the top seven or eight guys, and
you not use a second and third tier relieving and
just try to There are no low leverage innings this year.
Everything's a high leverage inning if you're six out with

(51:06):
twenty seven to play. So yeah, I think of these teams,
the Mariners are the one that can make the run.
But again, it does seem like I'm going to be
wrong about the Mariners this year. I thought they would be.
They would be in better position going into the last
four weeks of the season, and the lack of offense
is really helpful.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Well, with twenty four games left, you kind of have
to start doing the math, right, I mean, I don't
think four. I don't think fourteen and ten, does it?
You know, it doesn't feel like maybe sixteen and eight
Woods maybe, But then and they're talking probably at that
point a wildcard spot unless you can unless you say,
like you maybe, you know, go ahead, if you.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Go sixteen and eight, that might get you the way.
I mean, that's eighty five and seventy seven, and I'm
this right now. It looks like eighty five might get
you that third wildcard spot. Some of this depends on
the other will the Royals keep falling apart, do any
of the other teams make a run the Red Sox
are Tigers, the Rays. I think if you if you
tell me they get to eighty five and seventy seven,

(52:02):
I haven't looked at the tiebreakers, so I'm keeping those memorized.
Is one of the things I hate about modern baseball,
ye playoff system. But I would say eighty five is
probably going to be a playoff team. Sixteen and eight
for number.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Six, So sixteen and eight's the number, Okay, we'll keep, yeah,
Because I would mean then you're hoping that Minnesota Kansas City.
I mean they're at seventy five wins each right now,
you hope that they do the opposite. They don't win
more than nine games along the Way or West, depending
on tiebreakers. And Andrews is better equipped for that stuff
than I am. What do you think of tiebreakers? You
remember Andrews top of your head? No, No, what do
you mean tiebreakers with Kansas City and Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
I believe we don't have it with Kansas City, and
I don't know if we have it with Minnesota, but
I almost know.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
It feels like it feels like Houston's the one team
they've got the tiebreaker against. If they win one of
the final three, they don't get swept the finals, they
don't get swept. Yeah, and if they get swept, I
think Joe and Andrews is probably moot point. Yeah, exactly,
It probably doesn't matter at that point.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
They even lose two out of three. At that point,
if they don't sweep, yeah, probably a mowd point. They're
probably gonna need this week that series. And again I
just go back to the rotation. You can't convince me
that thick whatever three guys are going to throw in
that series aren't capable of dropping twenty one innings in
one run on the Astros, the capable of dropping twenty
one runs and twenty one innings one run on any

(53:18):
team in baseball. So that's what you're holding out for.
Give yourself a puncher's chance of going into that.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Series before they go. Because offense is such a big
topic here. You wrote about it a little while ago
with I think with Sarah Lang's stuff about the first
week of April offense in August. In other words, did
we see a drop off in August with offense and why.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
There was a real read there was a strange week
the third, like starting the seventeenth to the twenty third,
where you literally just had get all. You had literally
April levels of offense in turn, and it wasn't just
fluke stuff. It was strikeout rate and walk ray was
the same, but all the bad at ball data had collapsed.
And I've looked and saying, I don't know what this is,
but it's very strange. No, yes, the weather was cooler,

(53:57):
but it was cooler for August. You know, it wasn't cold,
it was just you know, seventy eight instead of eighty
eight a lot of places, so you know, a lot
of people were pointing to the weather. The things did
bounce back after that, but the second half of August
definitely saw a drop off at offense. I went and
looking there was a quirky thing with the ground ball
rate spiked in the second half, like over large samples,

(54:18):
like a one percent change matters a lot, and the
ground ball rate from and at watching games, it did
seem like there were a lot more double plays being
heit into. So I don't know if the ball changed
in a way that enabled pitchers to throw better breaking
stuff and keep the ball down and reduce those double plays.
I can't say I've looked at it too carefully. Over
the weekend. This is I looked right at the end
of the month in August. But I do think we're

(54:40):
headed for a fairly low scoring September. It's been a
low scoring year September. We would expect more fewer runs
to be scored because it does legitimately get cool and
even cold in some places. Players are tired. You do
see more non hitters play because teams are calling up
nothing except they did in the forty mans yesterdays, but

(55:00):
they're calling up lesser hitters and giving them playing time.
And all the trends leaning towards September being a lower
scoring September. And I do think there's a possibility it's
going to change to the baseball possibility. I'm not saying
it's happened. I think just what we saw on the
second half of August points to the possibility of the
ball has been changed. So all of those trends they
need to believe we're headed for a low scoring month.

(55:22):
I think that helps the mirrors again, because you know,
if you're trying to win games to one, Shay l
Angelier is notwithstanding, it helps to you know, have a
baseball does the fly quite as far. I think the
if it is a very low run scoring September, that's
a small edge to the manors.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Members are thirteen and fifty six when they score three
or less. It's even worse when they score two or less.
And I know nobody wins, right, And I was gonna
ask you, because they bring that up all the time.
I would think, though, this would be the team that
would win some of those games, you know, right.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
I don't. I'm pretty sure a thirteen and fifty six
is actually all that bad for three runs or less.
Think about you've got to allow two or less at
that point, right, Yeah, I think you're the volume is
the problem. Yeah, they've scored three runs or less in
half their games. That's hard to win with. That's a
bad offense on a lot of nights. And I know
it's frustration over the strikeouts. We've gone back and forth

(56:13):
over that. But fundamentally, if you've scored three runs or
less than half your games, you actually should be lucky
to be five. You're lucky to be five.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeah, exactly. It's exactly half the games that they've scored
three runs or less right now to this point, exactly
half their games. Yeah, you're probably lucky you're still in
this thing as well, real quick thing just from your
you mentioned. I think this is a change that I
think most baseball fans are aware of it, maybe not
all the fact that we no longer have like fifteen
guys getting called up in September? First, is that better

(56:42):
for the competitive balance down the stretch as opposed to
like also no, okay, tell me why? Well?

Speaker 5 (56:48):
First of all, every team had the opportunity to do it.
If your owner doesn't want to pay the extra salary,
if your manager doesn't want to have the extra guys
hanging around, that's a choice. And I like things that
give teams choices. That's strategy. Oh we want to have
everybody up, Oh we don't. There was also a lot
of value for bad teams for their fans to get
a look at some of the prospects that are be
coming up. I loved roster expansion and this idea that

(57:12):
it affected competitive balance. Again, that's a choice, that's you.

Speaker 7 (57:16):
You get to choose.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
And the amount of money involved, by the way, was tiny.
The minimum salary is seven hundred and forty thousand divided
by six. It's one. I can do that once sixty
or so. No it's not even that it's one twenty
so paying five guys, seven guys, eight guys, marginally, you know,
one undred and twenty grand for the month. I mean

(57:39):
that's a million dollars, which is a rounding error in
the operations of a baseball team. And the fact that
that would be a barrier. You know you're contending, and
you have an idea, you have an opportunity to spend
a million bucks to maybe win an extra game in
September at a pennant race. Again, that's that's a choice, man,
that's still tell me it's compenditive balance problem. That's a
your owner is an incredibly cheap problem.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Wait are you telling me there's some baseball on or
is that are cheap?

Speaker 5 (58:00):
No? Is that what we did? This last to a
rant last week, and I've been hearing about it ever since.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Hey, you were a viral sensation, Joe with that red are.
Most of our other shows played it. We had it
on social media. You were like all over the place,
and and I'll say this, most most fans you know
the little the little is it gift? Jeff? You know
of Leonard DiCaprio holding up the glass of whiskey, the
toast that was you last week. Mariner fans were like,

(58:29):
thank you, Joan, thank you very much. That's what that's
what we were hearing from last week. So yeah, I'm
sure you did hear from a lot of people, but
out here it was all positive, sir. We liked the
Jochian rant. It was fantastic.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
Yeah, I tried to do this lesson as I get older,
it's you get a reputation for being that guy. But
I mean, I like the extent that I resemblance to
Chris Russo at least I like to think I'm on
the side of the US.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I think I think you're on the right side, sir,
even though you're a USC fan. Fight on. Uh hey man,
you guys are the first ones to blow my conference
out here. My school's washing the state. We're on the
sidelines looking around watching things right now. So it's it's,
you know, come on.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
We agree that that that whole thing is a best
We agree on that.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
We agree one hundred percent on that. I also agree
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(59:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
It's great stuff and yes, and you can just kind
of feel Joe yelling at you as as yelling about
the Mariners as you're reading those things as well. Listen,
thank you so much. We'll talk to you next week.
We'll see where in six days toss seven days time,
we'll see where we're at. If it's still six, I'm
gonna feel like it's gonna be a little less. Joe
was positive, Marrater fans. He was positive to this. So
we'll see how we are next week in seven days, sir,
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I that's Joechian Man. I I'm glad there's still somewhat
in it and relevant because I love talking to Joe
every week. Makes you smiker man, and I think if
you're a matter of fan, he painted a pretty pretty
positive outlook, right. He said, basically, if there's one team
that can do it, it's them he did. I don't
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Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Thanks Joe Shean popping on giving Mariner Vans a little
glimmer of hope. There just a little glimmer of hope
along the way, but it is a fleeting glimmer. We
asked us yesterday the Mulliwalk guys, and I didn't really

(01:02:04):
get a chance to talk to Andrews and Jess about it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
But I I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Don't know which one I want to look at more
am I looking at the wild Card or the or
the Ale West. It's Ale West for me too.

Speaker 13 (01:02:15):
Yeah, I'm kind of done with the Wildcard.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Kansas City is interesting. The six games they've lost, so
they were what were they They were seventy five and
fifty eight before that six game losing streak, and they
lost one of their best players of the season as Joees. Yeah,
so I mean they're kind of limping a little bit.
But you know, for then, if eighty four, eighty five,
if eighty five gets you in, yeah, so Seattle would

(01:02:40):
have to. You just have so many other teams to
compete with. For well, I don't is Detroit. Are you're
really competing with Detroit? I know they're a half game aheady,
but you're really competing with Detroit? I guess Boston's if
we're not counting Detroit, we're not. Kind of the Mariners, like,
let's be straight up here. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They beat us twice holding away. Just Andrews is confirming

(01:03:07):
that for us. This just in breaking news. The Tigers
are better than the Mariners. I guess you're right. I
guess I guess you are right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Even though Mitch Ginger tries to say that team's not
better than us. They have a better record than you
and they beat you twice.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Well, I reference to this first segment of the show today,
the Ken Rosenthal article in The Athletic, and I think
in the next so you had twenty four games left,
what do you give it another week to kind of
get to within four or three games? And then at
that point you just root for carnage and hope that

(01:03:40):
they make a move. I mean I get to that
with Joe because Joe likes he likes to poto. Yeah,
like Joe always Oh you know, he had a bad offseason,
only he's had nine years to have a bad offseason
like it's and he has had them. I kind of
think the last two offseasons have been bad, not just bad,
right like not? I almost think, I don't know, hot
take the two point? Do we have like a buzzer

(01:04:02):
we need to have? Is this a hot take from Anders?
Hot take?

Speaker 9 (01:04:05):
Guy? Hot?

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
I know people kind of bashing him for this year's offseason.
I think the two previous ones were worse, especially considering
what free agents were available this year. It wasn't as
deep of a class.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, I the Garber signing. I don't. I just don't
want to kill him on no, because the guy just
is underperformed and and everything would and Polanco had a
really slow start. He's picked it up a little bit.
It's he's been fine the last month rose of rain
as ops as he came to Seattle as dropping by
the second, like by the second. But again, we all
celebrated that trade. We thought that was a good trade.

Speaker 9 (01:04:36):
It's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I think the one I I I mean, we lumped
the Mitches in together, but the Hanniger one was just
a disaster. That was very bad, and that felt like
a hot dog's from heaven signing. Yes, that's what that
felt like exactly. It's like everyone has something in front
of your face that everyone knows well. And he's a
really popular player with the fans. Yeah, this is gonna

(01:04:58):
sound really like I'm just being a complete and I'm sorry,
but why is he so popular because he was the
best player in some bad teams match. Yeah, I'm gonna
avoid saying my true opinion on that.

Speaker 14 (01:05:10):
No, I'm serious, like I've always wanted that, like because
Mariner fans don't watch the rest of baseball. Okay, And
then that's the case with every fan base, to be honest, right, Right,
they know their players that they watch every single day
because it's a very regional sport, right, But there's a
very low percentage of baseball fans in Seattle that watch
other baseball games besides Marriyer's games. And like, they saw

(01:05:31):
what Mitch could do for a couple of years. In
twenty twenty one, had a really good year, twenty twenty two,
had a really good year, and then obviously it was
hurt most of twenty twenty three, right, and that's when
he was on the Giants and taoscar came here and
was pretty average. Right, So everyone is looking at it
through that scope and not the scope of oh, compared
to other outfielders, he's pretty average, even at his best.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Yeah, I guess that's why I bring it up, because
it's it's just I mean, he had that. He had
a great season in twenty twenty one, right, Yeah, really
good scenes, really Friday night home runs one hundred, RBIs
two fifty three three, eighteen forty five, eight h four
a you know, actually had people voting for him in
the MVP. Finished twentieth in the voting that year. It

(01:06:12):
It is odd though, it's I guess, the familiarity because
it's he's such a popular player, and yet that was
such a horrific signing, and it was it was one
of those signings when it happened. It was or trade,
I guess, right, yea tactically trade.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
And it was I think it was a lot to
supplement the loss of Taoe right while also trying to
get rid of Robbie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Ray question mark, I don't know why you would want
to do that for Mitch's popularity.

Speaker 13 (01:06:38):
And this is what I've observed in this market, having
been on you know, in the Torrential East Coast, is
that the people here, in regardless of the sport, fall
in love with the best you ever were, and they
they refuse to dismiss you know, they refuse to hate
you after the after you're not they refuse and there

(01:06:59):
are some you're just saying, like, but they refuse to
go at you or refuse to disassociate that popular feeling
and that happiness they have towards people because they fall
in love with them at their height.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
There's a lot of players that are easier to root
against than others, and Mitch is not easy to root
against Yes, I would agree with someone like Jerry Kelnick
whether you like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Him or not. He's polarizing exactly. He's polarizing, right, Yeah.
I mean it's almost like you dangle the carrot in
front of the face, right, It's like, oh, you know,
we're gonna bring Mick back.

Speaker 8 (01:07:28):
Mitch.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Everyone liked Mitch. People wore his jersey, and he had
a couple of good years with Seattle, and he's been
not healthy a lot of times. But when he's healthy,
he's great. And then you bring him back and like
you said, at the expense of Robbie Ray, it just it.
And and then when you paid him, like this is
not one of those ones where you complain about like
they didn't want to pay somebody, then they paid this guy,
Like that's the crazy thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Well, it's not like they extended him. It's he would
be the only one that San Francisco would give back
because the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Money was because the money. Yeah, oh lord, all right, And.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
That's sorry going off from a weird but I think again,
with that offseason, a lot of people assumed, Okay, you're
keeping Robbie Ray, but then you can trade one of
your young guys to get a true elite bat but
they went like, oh, we want to key stay cheap,
so we're gonna trade our expensive uh arm Robbie Ray

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for someone to bring back that's pretty average, if at
their best.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
And here we are here, we are behind the Detroit Tigers.
And if you didn't hear it yesterday, go listen to
the second segment of Mollywop when when Nathan Bishop had
a live reaction when he glanced at the standings. I
can't believe you didn't know that and saw the Detroit
Tigers were ahead of the Mariners in the standings, and
his reaction was absolutely priceless. Yes, we'll hit on a

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Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
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His AV. You'll hear Benton say that the captain. Oh,
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other sports, but it's I mean, compared to other sports,
it's a little low. I mean, what's Mitch making eighteen?

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this is aav as well. I just bring that up
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fifty six there are i'm sorry, twenty six million roughly
between him and McDavid. Now McDavid's due for a contract

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in a couple of years, he'll go and we'll pass
that one. Is he annoyed it for life? You think,
Oh yeah, I don't think he's. I think they learned
their lesson. Even if they don't win a couple of years,
it's going to Well, here's why I bring it up,
because it is hard to win when you're paying two

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guys that kind of money, and the salary cap is
eighty eight million, right, So you're paying two guys twenty
five percent of the salary cap roughly, right, a quarter
of it. That's a lot. That's hard to do. You've
got to be really careful. It doesn't allow you to

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probably have a high end goaltender. Stuart Skinner probably doesn't
allow you. Now they've Evan Bouchard Bousch bombs, he's gonna
get paid. It's going to be a bunch of guys
getting paid a lot. I don't and I don't know
what the what the way to do it is. But
I mean, because Florida's paying a bunch of guys a
bunch of money. But it's hard. Salary cap league is hard,
and what Andrews said, That's why I also.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
Brought it up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
They're in the division. Yeah, they're keeping the band together.
And as long as those two guys are playing on
the same team, especially if they're playing on separate lines
during the eighty two game regular season, everyone else rises
next to them and becomes a player. I mean, you guys.
We also I love kyler Yamamo, the local guy. That's great,
but like he looked like a player two years ago
when he played with those guys on the same line,

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and we saw him struggle last season. All Right. One
of the things that tributes continue to come in for
a Johnny Hockey, Johnny Gudreau. They're doing a moment of
silence outside of the rink in Columbus at thirteen and
thirty one. Those were his number and his brother's numbers.
After the hour. It's just I'm still stunned that at

(01:12:50):
thirty one, prime of his career, one of the most
exciting players in the league, one of the best personalities
in the league is gone. Please don't drink and drive,
just like that, Just like that, who both them and
his brother Matthew. I just this is the most heartbreaking thing.
His wife is pregnant a couple months away. The sister

(01:13:10):
was having a birthday or a wedding on the friday.
That's why they were there. Yeah, just a horrible, horrible
situation along the way for that franchise and for the
whole national honkeying. Okay, when we come back, we're gonna
check in with our first visit of the year with
our Kug's listen and I'm gonna list We just called
the Kook Ground Table. I mean, there's no other way

(01:13:31):
to call it. It's like people are reversing our business
to calling things round tables.

Speaker 9 (01:13:35):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
It's just a panel three of us talking. Just chimes
into here. There, we'll see, but we'll talk to our guys,
our dudes coming up, Alex Brink and Crystal Bruce. Coug's
put a seventy spot on Portland State. You know what,
taught that coach a lesson. Don't you come in here
now anymore try to beat us like they did in
twenty fifteen. Yeah, we're not doing that anymore. That was

(01:13:57):
one hundred percent in Alex Grinch game and the fact
of this porn down right, But they they a little
pay back. We'll find out what we could learn from
a game against a far inferior opponent and preview Texas Tech,
which would probably be if a game, it's it's maybe
the second, maybe even the most important game they'll play
this year, probably their second most. It's at home, so

(01:14:17):
it's probably the most important game. Boise States on the
road Apple Cup for whatever it's worth, is so called
neutral site home game against Texas Tech on Fox Television.
Massive game. We'll talk about that with those guys coming
up next.

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Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
All right, here we go first time this year. The
Coupon Legends are with us Alex and MK. Brought to
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guy MK is there for you as well. Cool sounding
open fellas. Hi, you guys got to take a little
to that. Pretty cool. You guys are with the big
time now. Huh oh.

Speaker 9 (01:17:02):
It was so great, man, There's so much in that stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
There was so much just came in hot.

Speaker 9 (01:17:08):
I tried to rip the shirt but I failed.

Speaker 5 (01:17:10):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Okay, we're gonna get to that in a second. We're
going to get to that in a second. I'm talking.
I'm talking about that open. We just had that promo
that little thing talking about all your businesses. You guys
are on It's it's like big time this this thing's
gone quy far, has not Alex.

Speaker 7 (01:17:23):
It's it's gone quite far since the days of me
walking down the streets of Montreal on my.

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
Sof and talking to you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
So, yeah, we made it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
We've made it to the big time.

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
I just I'm really disappointed that MK left out like
three or four of his businesses.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Like what's he doing as a serial entrepreneur at this point?
Got the Buffalo gym where this guy's out there just
getting yoked every morning thinking he's still gonna play.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
If you would like to hire a personal pilot to
zero six?

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Yeah, hey are you? Did you fly over the game there? MK?
You you wouldn't even but it was the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 8 (01:17:58):
I literally flew and flew over the state, landing on
the runway and walked off. And then the buddy I
had with me was like, here are we going through
like TSA. I was like, no, I'm a private pilot.
We just walked up to our car.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
I love that. That's awesome. And for people that don't
know Game one, you were the legend. MK was a legend.
That that raised the flag. At the start of the game,
you had that size medium ron Stone shirt on that
people thought you were going to rip off, like just
like whole Colgan style. What happened?

Speaker 9 (01:18:28):
You know what it was?

Speaker 8 (01:18:29):
You know, when I looked over at Bill Stevens, he
was like, hey, are you gonna rip your shirt off?
And I was like yeah, I mean obviously I got up,
and then I was like, well, what shirt am I
going to wear after it?

Speaker 9 (01:18:39):
And most of the I mean I was not gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Wear a shirt and be fine with him.

Speaker 8 (01:18:42):
Then I made an executive decision to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Keep it all right.

Speaker 7 (01:18:45):
It was probably a smart logistical decision. If I'm being
totally honest with you, I.

Speaker 8 (01:18:49):
Could have found a medium somewhere in that stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Listen, man, if I looked like you had ripped that
shirt off in a second.

Speaker 13 (01:18:54):
Man, that's like you went through all the steps though,
Like we I went over to the trainers and God
of Harris is ors so you could precut the shirt whole.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
And I was like, oh man, this is gonna be sick.

Speaker 13 (01:19:06):
And then but you still had a picture shirtless on
top of the stadium though.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
You just ripped it off. Okay, Yeah, good. You just
didn't tear the shirt. You're a year treat, Alex and Mka.
They're with us this year in this weird transition year
that it is.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
But what a start.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Seventy on the board. Yeah, ten touch Yeah, David David
Riley needs to be putting up those kind of numbers
this year with the hoops team. Ten touchdowns. Let's just
get some initial impressions. Alex will start with you.

Speaker 7 (01:19:41):
Well, I mean there's a lot lot to like obviously.
You know, one thing that coach Jagger talked about that
I felt the same way is that, you know, the
team didn't start great. Right offense goes three and now
defense gets marched on. You go down seven to nothing
right away, and then even in the second series offensively,
you get into third and ten and you're kind of
feeling like, boys, you know, is this team didna take
a little while to figure it out? And then guess what,

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old number ten jump Intier.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
Made a heck of a play against a blitz. You know,
he was a free rusher.

Speaker 7 (01:20:08):
He breaks the tackling rushes for a first down and
then boy, like three plays later he throws a touchdown
to Chris Hudson and it felt like everything was kind
of off to the races, particularly offensive. I felt like
the offense you ended up obviously being really sharp. Mattier
looked fantastic, The receivers look explosive, you got a young back,
couple of young backs, but particularly the true freshman way
Sean Parker. I thought, yeah, overall, offensive line, overall, the

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offense looks fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
You know, defense has got a little bit of work
to do, but you know they do. They do say that.
You know, those first games.

Speaker 7 (01:20:39):
Kind of out coming out of fall camp. Tackling is always, uh,
some of the worst, typically early in the season, and
lots of times offensive rhythm is the worst. Offense was good,
tackling wasn't great.

Speaker 8 (01:20:49):
And I agree, yeah, because this is the biggest thing,
Like when you come out, you've been just hitting your teammates,
your teammates all camp long. You're fired up, you're ready
to play somebody else. And you saw a little bit
when he came out flat that first time, that pot
state of marchdown. I was like, I didn't love that
at first, right, But you think about those games, like
when you're playing Tech Bobil.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Everybody's played that game.

Speaker 8 (01:21:09):
When you picked the perfect defense to that offensive play
they score, And that was one thing too. It's like
it was the perfect storm where everybody was flowing running back,
cuts back, and he has that big, big run and
it's like, you know what happens. I'm glad we got
it out of the way up front and then we
got after it from there. But offensively was just super sharp,
super fun to watch. But I'm gonna tell you the
biggest thing I have to tell you, guys, Jake Dickard

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is the dude. If you've ever talked to him, he
is the guy. Like he's the guy I would play
for right now, run through a wall four. Like every
time I talked to him, like, Yo, this guy is
it so any kop fan out there that's not like
really understanding what he's doing for these players, he is
the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
I well, I agree with you. I mean what he's
been able to do and his attitude. I liked his
attitude coming into the season too. I'll jump on that
MK and throw it back to Alex. I liked his
attitude coming in the season. He made him mention last
week Alex about he didn't use the word distracted, but
he talked about kind of taking so much on himself,
and you know, he he became an advocate not just

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for Washington State, but for probably Oregon State as well,
and for these two teams left behind all the rumors,
all the stuff going on last year, and it felt
like Jake Dickard more so, certainly more so than the
now departed athletic director, more so than anybody Jake took
on a lot. He kind of made reference to that
last week in one of his podium appearances and said, yeah,

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maybe it kind of I don't know if it's distraction
was the right word, but Alex, at the end of
the season, that team kind of fell away. Dickard and
this team at least through one game and fall camp
and every thing. Focus seems to be kind of the
big key for these guys.

Speaker 5 (01:22:40):
Well, it sure does.

Speaker 7 (01:22:41):
I mean that's because the margin for error is really slim, right,
I mean they have to go out and win ball
games and win a lot of them to maintain kind
of the relevance that you know, we all want Washington
State to have at that Power four level, and so
you know, the focus's bottle. I think Coach Dickert, to
your point, is locked in. He's got these kids locked in.
To MK's point about his ability to motivate these the

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athletes and then get the buy in.

Speaker 5 (01:23:05):
I mean, think about this, honestly, guys.

Speaker 7 (01:23:07):
Like in the world of nil and where we know
Washington State's fighting from for some of these other schools
across the country, all the rhetoric, the fact that guys
like David Gusta stuck around that Kyle Williams stuck around
the fact that like, you could go down the roster.
I mean, there's a number of guys that could probably
go potentially get paid and play somewhere else. You're gonna

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lose a few every year. The reality is Jake Dickard
and what the staff is doing to recruit internally to
keep some of the best players around is really impressive.
And that goes back to what MK said, which is, Man,
if you're not on the Jake Differd train, like you
got to get on board.

Speaker 5 (01:23:43):
Because that thing is long gone. I mean, those that guy.

Speaker 7 (01:23:46):
Can get players bought in, he can motivate, he can
coach defense. And I love that aspect because you have
to have it now because you're always recruiting, not just
externally but internally.

Speaker 5 (01:23:56):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Yeah, and Kay, I'm gonna let me go to the
defense for a second. I'll come back to the offense
because it was I mean, I want to get Alex's
thoughts on the tier. He looked fantastic. Boy, what what
I mean? It's more than a one two punch at
wide receiver. But appreciate the duck's handing that kid over
and and and Williams is just spectacular. And I think
we found a running back in Pullman too for the
like an elite running back to go with a couple

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other guys that ran hard. But MK the defense, they
didn't give up that first drive. They gave up thirty.
Probably some growing pains expected there because hey man, they
put four guys in the NFL last year. Like it
wasn't a very good defense at times either. What'd you
see from the defense?

Speaker 8 (01:24:33):
Well, the biggest thing is, like Wesley Stein was such
a big pickup, you know what I mean. Just have
kind of a vet linebacker come in there. I'm a
big d line guy, so you know, Andrew Edson's a
snow qualm guy, and you know it's local to my heart.
So I I want him healthy. Nice to see see
him healthy. Yeah, yeah, And I want to see him
do well too. But we talked about eleven hats to
the football. There was a lot of good defense that

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we saw out there. I would love to see more
quarterback pressure. And we know when we're talking about you know,
like a Portland State or anybody that we're playing against
right now. Like Alex was saying, we have to win
ball games, but we also have to do that to
stay relevant, like you was saying, especially if we have
a shot at the Big twelve or any other conference,
or maybe even putting the Pac twelve back together, we
have to show that we're relevant to win games. And

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it's gonna really be the defense or else we're gonna
go back to that I'm gonna score one more point
than you that air raid philosophy where we have to
have some kind.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Of backborn it's gonna start with that linebacking court Alex defense.
Wisemk brought up the pass rush. I thought the same
thing is like I kind of expect now mobile quarterbacks.
I think both guys were pretty mobile, but they're playing
Texas Tech this coming week. It's Portland State. You're scoring
kind of it will do you think on the defensive side,
Alex Date, I don't want to say the hell back
and I hate that term vanilla, but what do you

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see on the defense because I kind of do feel
like there's more there, especially in that D line than
maybe they showed.

Speaker 5 (01:25:48):
Well, it's not just D.

Speaker 7 (01:25:49):
Lines the pressure packages, right, Jesse Schmidting did not bring
the pressure packages that we know they like to bring
on third down and things like that. So I think
part of that's not shown at all. Obviously you didn't
have to, uh if you go back, I mean the
D line had a lot of pressure. Cyrus Repster was
close a couple of times. A couple other guys think
Ram Stevenson had a shot, you know, they just they

(01:26:09):
didn't quite get there. And a little bit a little
bit that's the athleticism of the quarterbacks. Yeah, I think
part of it too is, uh, you heard Jake talk
about this. Portland State's really nifty in their formations and
motions and the running game and what that does and
end kick and attest to this. As a D lineman,
you're starting to kind of peak to figure out way
a minute am I going to get cracked on?

Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
Is this is this a trick play?

Speaker 7 (01:26:30):
Is this something where it's misdirection and so you don't
just have your straight up pass russ moves that you
normally you would take. Versus team like say Texas Tech,
who's gonna drop back and throw the football most of
the time.

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
It's not gonna be extra things.

Speaker 9 (01:26:44):
And when we're scoring like that too.

Speaker 8 (01:26:46):
I mean, their whole offense is gonna change to But
this Portland State team game you dubbed fits last year,
and this a national championship team that they gave fits,
We're gonna see that they're gonna beat up on some
people and see that they're better than that he showed.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
I think, well, I just think would add to what
Alex said and bring the pressure packages necessarily. Why would you?
I mean you knew you could outscore them, and it's
not like it's you know, we're not playing for style
points right now. Why help textae film out there either. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Yeah, Text Tech and you dubbed
the next two weeks and listen, Tech had their own issues. Man,
they should have lost that game to an FCS opponent.

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On Saturday, Alex, everyone wanted to know about the quarterbacks.
Matier wins the quarterback competition you mentioned three and out
first series and after that it was just how are
we going to score this time? Like, it was just
it was almost too easy. And frankly, you know what,
you shouldn't have beat us here, you know, back in
twenty fifteen, old burnt coach Burnham because he got yet
slapped in the face a little bit. I don't know
if Dickert knew that, cared about it or not, but

(01:27:39):
a Boyscher felt like, we're just gonna we're gonna make
sure we remind these guys who they were. I love
material though, Man, can you throw the ball?

Speaker 9 (01:27:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Can he run? Absolutely? But he was a total package
on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:27:51):
He really was.

Speaker 7 (01:27:52):
And look, I think you know, it's important to point
out with Matier again, a guy that kind of has
worked through it, right, he's earned it, earned his stripes.
He is, he's got the locker room bought in. I mean,
I think all the things you talk about physically double
down on that when it comes to his leadership, Like
he is one of the best dudes in that locker
room even as a young player. Guys believe in it,

(01:28:12):
Guys believe in him, and I think that's super important,
and part of it's his toughness part of it's his character,
but you see the physical tools. I mean, he throws
as good as a deep ball as you'll see in
college football.

Speaker 5 (01:28:23):
He obviously he missed one early and you can tell
that really ate at him, and so then he got
a few big ones later.

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
You know, if I'm being really honest, that that third
down play talked about where he broke the tackle in
the backfield, then got the first down and then the
quarterback draw. I mean, it is rare that you see
quarterbacks run that fast and make that that's a running
back honestly making that play. So you know, watching the
state fans should be excited. You have a essentially a
guy that can run the football like a running back,
but he can throw it like a top tier quarterback.

(01:28:52):
And the last thing I will say about this, just
because it's close to my heart when it comes to
quarterback development and and you know quarterbacks across the country
and the kids I see and all these things, is
that when you watch it on the tier, and this
will be the biggest difference that KU fans will see,
everything is cleaned, everything is crisp, The footwork is chris
the fundamentals are crisp. He's on time he steps up

(01:29:13):
in the pocket like all these things are why it
looked the way it looked, And I think that's an
important indication for Washington State fans of what this could be.
He'll make mistakes, for sure, he's a young player, but
he's going to be doing it in rhythm with what
ben Arbuckle wants and that frees up a play caller
to do a lot of things, which I'm excited about.

Speaker 9 (01:29:29):
And I'll tell you too, Ian.

Speaker 8 (01:29:31):
As a defensive player, there's nothing worse than playing gets
a quarterback that can run, a mobile quarterback because you
have to keep another guy down in the box or
you have to account for it. If I get upfield
too far, he's gonna come out and he's gonna run
and get the first down. So like normally when you
would be thinking I can do this on a pass
rush or do this on a scheme, you can't, because,
like Alex was saying, he's essentially a running back that

(01:29:52):
can throw the football.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
It's absolutely crazy. So we're gonna see some fun stuff
from him. I think in two acts, what you mentioned
about being clean, he does look the part like it's
just it is. Really I would almost use the term
succinct and how how I'm watching this guy play. The
other thing too, is like a couple of those runs
and his touchdown runs. Specifically, that dude broke some tackles.
I don't know if he if he's been squatting at

(01:30:13):
the Buffalo gym with MK or what, but they're talking
about his squats like six hundred, Like like MK that
you don't want to be a defensive guy and see
some quarterback that's the squat and six hundred coming at you, man,
because that ain't no fun, don't. I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:30:27):
I just that guy. Is that guy special, and I'm
so glad that he's on our team.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Yeah, and the leadership part too, I'm glad you mentioned
that Alex, and you only get that with equity in
a program, right, Like he's been there for a while
and and guys were I'm sure there's a lot of
just if for no other reason than that Alex uh
morrole Wicks and Boogie Williams last time, I really felt
great about running backs. I don't think that the other
guys are as high end maybe, but boy way Seawan Parker,

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you've had a chance to watch him and hear about him,
in spring and fall camp at Alex.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
All I can say is wow, man, that kid's fund
watch he really is.

Speaker 7 (01:31:01):
And you know what, there's there's an important piece right
with running backs, and it's it's similar to Max Morgan
when he came in, right. It's rare that a running
back comes out of high school and is physically ready
to go. And Parker came in early, came in January,
so he's been in the weight room and doing all
the things right, doing the training table, you know. But
he's six foot two hundred pounds right as a as
a true freshman, clearly got some real physical tools.

Speaker 5 (01:31:25):
I loved his kind of his balance.

Speaker 7 (01:31:27):
At the point of attack right when he when he
had that contact, he maintained his balance. He was able
to keep his feet driving when he gets in the
open field, boys, he explosive. But the one thing that
really stood out to me, and you know, fans obviously
saw the play right his touchdown Cash he runs right
down the middle of field, right past the linebackers, showcases
his speed. What's more important about that is that Ben

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Arbuckle trusts a true freshman to get out in the
passing game from the running back that was a design play.

Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
For was Shawn Parker doll.

Speaker 9 (01:31:54):
So that wasn't a checkdown at all?

Speaker 8 (01:31:56):
Was that was?

Speaker 7 (01:31:57):
That was that was designed for him the whole way.
Everybody else clearing out they love the look and there
he's gonna take it. That tells me that they have
confidence in what he can do out of the backfield,
which kind of like MK's talking about quarterbacks that can run.
When receivers can catch like that, that's a real problem
for defenses.

Speaker 8 (01:32:13):
Yeah, let me ask you a question, how do you
keep so you have guys like this, especially a true freshman.
Let's say he just absolutely shows out this year, how
do you keep him and then keep him a tear
and then you keep all these other guys that are
doing care.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
Go down this dark road for us already? Buddy, why
do you do that?

Speaker 7 (01:32:29):
Well, you start knock, you start knocking on the doors
of MK. Bruce, and you say, I need a very
large check, and that check is gonna that way. Sean
Parker stays here. No, I mean like, no, I mean
that's the game. Like, look, I'm not gonna like sugarcoat it.
If he's that good, he's gonna have he's gonna have interest.
But instead of worrying about that honestly, is we should say,

(01:32:51):
like pour the way Jake Dicker does, to pour into
the young man, right, support him, give him as much
as you can, as much as you needs, show the
love and on the back in you know you'll have
a chance, right and if you don't have a chance,
it means he's really really good.

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
And that's okay, that's good on him.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
You know it's a good point though, and and it's
a good question, mkay, I just bust your chops about
you know, raigning on our parade already. That's my job
just in case you're wondering, like Alex will tell you,
that's my job to be the doomsday guys.

Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
So don't.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Yeah, so I don't know what you're doing, ky, Like
have we changed roles? I missed the memo on that
plass is always full. But like it makes your heart
signals it does? It does? It doesn't listen what Alex?
It is true? You know both. First of all, the
tears in a great situation. He gets to play, like
we all know what the quarterbacks these days, they get
to play. They want to play, and there will be
places maybe he can play next Hell there's for sure

(01:33:41):
gonna be places. But you know, sometimes guys just kind
of you know, absorb themselves in Pullman and the culture.
I never underestimate that. You guys don't either just is there.
She doesn't underestimate the culture there is different. It's it's
a yes or no place. And I would just use
this for an example. You know, basketball last year we
had this incredible run, right and at the end of
the day, UH coach leaves, a d leaves players leave.

(01:34:04):
There's one guy left, Isaiah Watts, Right, But he's a
coupe through and through Isaiah's I mean, he's become the face. Hell,
he's become the face the athletic department outside of my tier.
And those are the kind of guys Isaiah Watts, Shawn Mattier,
Wyshawn Parker, those are the tangible guys you need to
invest in as if you're looking at nil stuff, because
I think part of the NIL issue is is I
get on my soapbox here for a second. I think

(01:34:25):
part of the NIL issue guys is is simply this
that you know, there's times when the money goes in,
like who's it going to? Like if I was you know,
for the football program this year. Nobody knew about Wyshawn
Parker till Saturday. Mattier was battling for a starting job. Yeah,
you kept Kyle Williams in, which was great and probably
paid him. And Christtsen comes up from from from Oregon

(01:34:45):
East Grade as well. But those are the tangible things.
If you're trying to raise money for NIL, you can
look at it. Pay in Isaiah Watts for his loyalty,
pay a job mateer for his loyalty, Pay a w
Shawn Parker to keep him here and make him become
a true legend like you guys as well. You know,
I think Klay is a great example of that. There's
something about being that big fish in that pond of
pullman and and hopefully that'll happen. All right, we gotta

(01:35:06):
get to this side before we go run out of time.
MK keys against a Texas Tech team that can flat
out check it all over the field and put up
some points. Man, what was the defense gonna do this week?

Speaker 8 (01:35:15):
I mean defense just has to corral them. I mean
no big plays, and we always talk about that, no
big plays, and we know that our offense is gonna score.
But again, if we can get some big stops and
a couple turnovers. I think two turnovers.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
We win this game the packages, and we lost Alex
for second. We'll try to get him back on here
in a second. If we did great the blitz packages,
the pressure packages, like like Alex said, it was like, yeah,
they did get some pressure, but they didn't do it
with a lot. Do you want to see some more
games up front, some more some more twist stunts, different
things like that.

Speaker 8 (01:35:43):
We're gonna we're gonna see somebody's gonna bring blitzes like
nobody's business. And I think we're gonna see that this year.
If we get the quarterback off the spot, maybe get
them rolling left and right, we're gonna see those big
turnovers because they're going to force them into bad, bad
situations and bad throws. And I think this is where're
gonna have the breakout game with those sacks, with these
blitz package is coming.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
In all right, Offensively, I'm cam to lean on you
as well since we lost Alex, so lean on you offensively.
That offensive line looked better. You gotta run the ball,
keep the ball out of Texas text hands, right.

Speaker 8 (01:36:09):
You have to run the ball. I think clock clock
management's going to be the biggest thing right now, because
both teams are going to be throwing the ball. If
we can get some eat up the clock a little
bit more, get some more design runs in there, that's
going to be the.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Key for us. All Right, we'll give Alex extra love
with American Football Brand and E Force Sports next week
on his If I think he might be coming back
in here in a second, tell us about Guild Mortgage
and Lit's. I throw people there all the time for you, man,
I appreciate that love.

Speaker 8 (01:36:35):
No listen if you're looking to either buy or refinance.
I mean, I don't even know why you would call
anybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
You would just reach out. It just wouldn't.

Speaker 8 (01:36:43):
What's the webmin and it's just Team Bruce Mortgage dot com,
but also just Google and Crystal Bruce.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
But also if you want muscles, come down to the
Buffalo gym to you. You want to run to the game, Yeah,
you want to fly to the game, message me too.
Let me know next time you do that, I'll be
heading over with you. All right, Alex, Keys of the
game against Texas Tech super important.

Speaker 5 (01:37:05):
You protect the football.

Speaker 7 (01:37:06):
I think it's vital right, You're just you're playing a
flat out better football team than you played last week,
even though they had some of their struggles. They're a
young defense. You don't want to give them any you know,
you don't want to get them excited. You know, you
don't want to give them hope. I do think it's
a good matchup for the Washington State offense. Got to
keep that running game going. I mean that was so
good to see to see the offensive line move the
line of scrimmage. That's got to happen again. And then

(01:37:27):
you know, on defense, I think you know I heard mka.
You got to rush the passer. I mean, you got
to get home right, You got to make sure you
get home. You got to control the box. They have
a fantastic running back in Todzs Brooks, who you know,
who's a really really good football player, So control the
line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Brooks may be hurt. I hope he gets really well
after this week. You know, he's got a messed up arm,
So go after that. Okay. Alex American Football Brand E
for Sports would have got all the things.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
Check out American Football Brand dot com.

Speaker 7 (01:37:56):
It's football season, football inspired hats, hoodies, t sure it's
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Speaker 5 (01:38:04):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:38:04):
If you love the history and the pageantry, we got
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Brand dot com. If you do venture down to Southwest
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We're working with young athletes, helping them develop on and
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Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
And the beautiful thing about what we have now with
the old iHeartRadio app and Cougar fans. I know they
listening statewide down in the south west Washington, So a
lot of fans down there. If you get kids that'll
want to get trained, no better guy than QB ten there,
mister mister brink right at MK. You'll you'll you'll vouch
for that as well. American American Football Brands. Cool stuff too,
great gear, gentlemen. We'll talk next week after two and
oh start that's MK, that's Alex. We've got Factor Fiction

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