January 27, 2025 • 26 mins
New Washington State head football coach, Jimmy Rogers joins Ian in studio to discuss the future of the Cougars under the new staff.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the
NFL Playoffs and Super Bowl fifty nine. Sports Radio ninety
three point three kJ r FM.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Touch Down Glorious song, Jess. It's your favorite song to play,
isn't it about that? Yeah? You should. Well, some of
us in this state know the worst do our fight song.
Others that are maybe like the color purple, they know
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like the first three lines, but today is not a
day for them. Today is a day for us. Welcome
back to internus with you. Uh man. I'm excited about
this and been looking forward to having this conversation for a
while since we talked to our friend the athletic director
where there am McCoy at Washington State, right after Jimmy
Rodgers was hired as a new football coach at Washington State.
So I will just say this, welcome, How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm doing awesome. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I appreciate you coming in doing the tour cruising in Seattle.
Is this first time been to Seattle?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
In Seattle?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, Guys from South Dakota probably don't get out here
too often.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Probably not. I'm one of them. Haven't been out here,
but it's it's been awesome. So we were here last
night and getting our feet wet today.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What's what's the thing that has jumped out at you
since being hired about the school, the alums, the culture,
the fans, maybe the ex players you've talked about. I mean,
you come from a place that frankly was football crazy
and that's all you knew. But what is it about
this thing about Washington State that maybe has and the
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people or what have you that surprised you so far?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I would say just that the people they're you know,
really passionate about Washington State. I don't know if I've
ever left a conversation where it's not well, it's a koug,
always a koog, so here in that type of passion
behind the school, the brand, what the football program was
and can still be. Those things were a big part
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of why I wanted to take this job, honestly, was
the passion behind it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You were at South DA Coast State for a long time,
long time, long time. Was it hard to leave?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Extremely? I mean, you build relationships that last a lifetime
and I'll still have a part of my heart there.
Just that's where I raised my kids and that's where
I played college ball. Got to coach my Alba mater
as a head coach, and I think that's special. But
taking this one to me, you know, turned down many
opportunities elsewhere along my journey where most of my colleagues
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would have said I was crazy to turn down, and
I just felt like the grass wasn't always greener. But
I felt like this one fit my family. Small community
people are die hard about not only just the university,
but being a part of a winner, and the football
program was a huge part of the reason why I
wanted to come.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
One of the I like hearing that. I think Koop
fans like hearing that as well. I mean, because we
are a little bit different. I mean I joke about
our great sports information directors. I think he's a sociate
athletic director. You got a bigger title than that. Bill
Bill's teams been there forever, like and guys like that,
and Cooy's been there forever. There's something about the culture
that it's either And I said this when I went
there back in the eighties. My daughter graduated from there
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a few years ago. Pullman is a yes or no.
It's it's yes or no. You either go there and
love it and you're there and you finish your four, five, six,
seven years old while you're there, or as a coach,
you stay there and you love it, or it's just
not for you. So when you got there, did you
know right away it's not just the football program, but
this is a place we can make home.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, you know, like this looks a lot like the
Pullman looks like a lot like the western part of
the state of South Dakota. You know, where Mount Rushmore
is at the Hills Mountains, And me and my wife
would always joke when we'd have the opportunity to go
to what we call West River, which is the western
part of the state in South Dakota, we used to say, man,
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I just kind of wish Brooking, South Dakota was out here,
you know, just beautiful scenery, And yeah, that's what we've
experienced thus far in Pullman, and getting my family out
here for a couple of days for the opening press conference,
they were like, Yeah, this place is awesome. This place
is beautiful. So, you know, it may not be everybody's
cup of tea as far as a small town in
the community, but that is something that I look for
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along this journey as far as finding a place that
fit me in my family as far as raising our
kids in a smaller community where people are connected with
individuals and life isn't too fast and enjoy the relationships.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Jimmy Rodgers is here. He's a new head football coach
at Washington State University, kind enough to be in with
us for a little bit today here in the studio.
You mentioned turning down some other opportunities. You were that name,
you were the guy, your your name was out there
because of the success you had at South Dakota State.
What was it with Pullman that made you want to
come here as opposed to somewhere else. It's a big
job and you just mentioned the challenge is there. This
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is not this is not the old Pac twelve. The
new Pac twelves coming. So it's some heavy lifting going along.
So what was it football wise? It brought you out here?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah? I think it's a national brand to recruit to,
you know, having been in the Pack five or the
you know, the PAC twelve and Power five level. The
resources that are there. The administration knows what that looks
like and knows what having a competitive advantage looks like.
Bringing people to a small town where the people are
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bought into the program. Though every player that we've brought
on campus thus far, just on the officials, they can
feel the community. And I think when you recruit to
people in substance, that's more than just flash and hype
of a lot of facilities or big city or things
that really don't make an impact. When you can recruit
to the people and you get the right people in
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the right seats, I think you can have success. And
I felt that right away here.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Everyone brings up the same thing over and over again.
I'm sure you answered this question all the time when
you're on the West Side. But resource wise, you come
from an FCS level school, but you go to a
division ie A school or FBS what do we call
these these days? And all of that. What has Ann
told you about resources and giving you what you need
to compete, not as much even this year, but next year,
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especially when the new twelve comes into play. What has
she told you? What have you been assured of as
the new head football coach?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know, for me, this is more resources than I've
ever had. I haven't came in and had a ton
of demands of I need this or I need that.
This is more than what I'm used to and my
last job, I mean I did a lot of things,
and so did our coaching staff. We held a lot
of different hats, and coming to Washington State, I feel
like there's three to four people that that's what they specialize,
and so I haven't came in and complained about really
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anything thus far. I'm appreciative of the help that's there,
the support that's there, and with the right people in
the right seat, you can have success. So I'm not
necessarily looking for more and more and more. We need
to figure out what this team looks like this spring
and develop a winning culture on the field before I
start asking about what.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
We need, Jimmy, is that like the one of the
biggest things when you come from the FCS level is
and I just we were just talking to the break.
I mean, my son was playing small college football with
Worth up in Spokane, and like the head coach does
like eighteen things, you know, and FCS isn't that South
Dakoast State. It's a big program, a national brand at
that level. But it is different, right, like you know,
like like you come to Wazoo and you've got three
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or four people, you got to support staff that's probably
tenfold from what you're used to. Is is that kind
of maybe one of the not only the best things,
but also one of the biggest things that you kind
of go like, you probably want to put your hands
on things that other people are doing. Right.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, Honestly, I started looking at the amount of people
and I was like, I'm a little leary of giving
some things to people I've.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Are you good delegator or not? I am, But.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I like to touch everything and make sure that everything's
in place before I just pass it along. So part
of that is getting the staff on the same page
and making sure things are organized, that they feel comfortable
in what I expect moving forward. And the staff that
I brought with me, which is a large majority of
really everybody but one. They all know what I expect
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and how to do things. But it's also getting the
other key support pieces on the same page with that group.
And so yeah, I've been blessed with this opportunity and
I don't expect to waste any time and trying to
create something special here at Washington State.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Tell me about your coach. We'll talk with the coordinators.
Jesse Bob at your defensive coordinator, tell us about him.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, Jesse's been with me since I coached Jesse. So
my first job back was actually Jesse's first year coming
in as a incoming freshman, and we were laughing about
it because some of these freshmen that were committed to
us in this class that I've already signed with Washington State,
many here are here for the early and release. I mean,
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Jesse knows what that feels like to be recruited by
one person. And then when he showed up, I was
his coach, So yeah, getting to know him. He actually
played as a true freshman, and I coached him along
his journey and he went on to become a high
school coach in Nebraska, and then, knowing that he wanted
to get back into college, he was a graduate assistant
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for me learn kind of the structure of the defense
of what we were moving when I became the defensive
coordinator at at South Dakota State. And then he was,
you know, blessed with the opportunity to come out here
and coach under Jake Dickert as a graduate assistance on
the defense side of the ball. And then shortly after that,
after spending two years here, I hired him back as
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the safety's coach. Why I was the linebackers and defensive coordinator,
and then Jesse after one year of being with me
in that and just learning how it is evolved, I
made him the defensive coordinator when I became head coach,
and we had one of the best defenses, if not
the best defense in FCS history with him leading the charge.
So I feel really confident in what he's how he's
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developed over his years, and we see the game very
similar and bouncing ideas off of one another, off of
a structure that we both believe in has been really
seamless for the both of us.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Is it beneficial to all the fact that you know,
I don't want to say only a graduate assistant, because
we talked about guys wear a lot of hats. Those
guys wear like eighteen hats and get not a lot
out of it, but they worked really, really hard at
a coaching staff. So having him here, having him have
a little experience with Dickard and how much does that help.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He was one of the first he came with me.
It was me and Ron Pavock that came up. When
we first got out here, there was only three of us.
I was one of the three obviously, but having a
guy that knew the players because he knows some of
these players, you know, he coached some of these guys
on scout team five years ago. So then knowing the area,
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knowing how things work here at Washington State has been
huge for me.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The uh your what kind of defense do you like?
Like like like, I like, that's a big broad question,
I know, but just in general terms, you said that
you and Jesse share the same vision. What is that?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I mean, it's stems out of a four man front
and we'll put the right back seven on the field
that based off situation of whether it's run pass, and
the type of body that we need in the game
at the certain personnel. But it is a it is
a four to three. Some people call it a four
two five. At the end of the day, it's putting
the right person in the right situation to have success
based off the offensive personnel on which they line up in.
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But multiple multiple coverage is that we run. We don't
just everybody always says, well, what do you run?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
We run a little bit of everything, and it's creating
a balance. But I would say the number one thing
that we do is we change up the looks of
what it looks like prior to the snap, and so
not just the scheme is multiple, the front is multiple,
but the coverage and what it looks like and presents
itself is always ever changing. So playing on the attack,
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playing physical, if you can get the guys and the pieces,
the right pieces on the field at the right time
and you allow them to play as fast as possible,
it really still comes down to keeping leverage on the
ball and out physically people and playing relentless and cause
and turnovers.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Danny is it, friend Freud, Danny freyn is your offensive
coordinatoring and the quarterbacks coach. We've thought long been some
sort of version of an air raid with Mike, and
before that it was what Dennis and Mike ran, pass
heavy offenses a lot of times. Uh what's uh, what's
Danny gonna run?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah? I think you have to look every single year
at the skill set in what you have and giving
the best year best players of the ball. Don't make
it overly complicated. But we're gonna run the football and
we'll we'll you know, create one on one opportunities that
take advantage of teams weakness on the back end. Uh,
The one thing that I've always admired or do just
about facing Danny is that it's it's very unpredictable, and
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uh they do a really good job of developing the
skill set and and maximizing the opportunities of what a
defense presents to them and not just you know, ramming
their head against the wall and hoping that they have success.
He's did an unbelievable job at North Dakota, where I
had faced him for several years, and their their offense,
maybe although lack talent or not have as much talent
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as maybe the rest of the league, always produce points.
And he was the one offensive coordinator that always scored
more points on us than any other any other program.
So part of the reason why how I how I
came about him is is just that, uh Zach Luhan,
who as our offensive coordinator a couple of years ago,
left to become the offensive coordinator at Northwestern in Illinois.
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There and so I was looking for a quarterbacks coach
and a guy that could help us on the back
end as far as passing, uh you know, creating the
passing attack. And so when I had the opportunity to
get Danny to Brooking, South Dakota was a no brainer,
and then meeting his family it was it was it
was the right fit, and so bringing him here was
a no brainer. And I'm excited to see what he
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does and how he evolves this offense. But yeah, I
won't just be the air Raid. Will run the football,
and I believe in that. Part of the part of
the reason why is if you look across college football,
there is a brand that wins the national championship. And
although people think that's crazy, I won't and I won't.
You know, I won't give into that. Could it be done?
Surely it can. I know it won't done if you
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don't believe it can be done. So we have a
long road ahead of us before we start getting ourselves
into that. But yeah, you got to be able to
run the ball, and you got to win on defense,
and so when you do that, everything else opens up.
After that, the passing game will open up, and defensively,
you know, creating pressure on the quarterback opens up if
you can run the ball and stop the run.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Jimmy Rodgers joining US new Wathing State head football coach.
That's an interesting thing with the air Raid and how
it I always thought that and we've had wazoo fans. Shockingly,
fans have had these discussions amongst themselves, probably over a
few pops in a tailgate or something like that, going
why do we run the air raid when it's snowing
and raining and all these types of things. And I
always wondered if it was when Mike came in Leach,
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I mean the program. I'm sure you've done your history lessons,
and the program was in a downtrodden place, and how
can you flip the script quick? Well, there's a lot
feels like there's a lot more skill guys out there,
you know. The seven on seven world now has changed everything.
I just where we live out in Maple Valley, that
a massive seven on seven tournament this week and I
droll by their Saturday Sunday. It's like there's like a
thousand kids on four fields and it's just like that
what people are doing. And I feel like receivers you
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can find them, you know, all over the place. I
always feel like it's harder to find the big boys,
the guys that can block up front. Is that still
the case? And how how challenging is that in today's football,
where there's such an emphasis on seven out of seven
to find the guys because you want every coach wants
to run the football to well Mike Leech exception. Outside
of coach Leachs, everyone's run football. They always say they
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want to run football, but you can't do unless you
have the big boys. Is it getting harder to find
some of those dudes?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think it's harder to Uh, yes, yes, the answer.
It is harder to find the athletic ones that can
not only be six or five or two eighty and
still move right. But you also have to take ones
that are under develop and develop them. You're not just
going to find the finished product right out of high school.
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A lot of the guys that are built to be,
you know, a powerful ol aligneman, sometimes they're tapped out
when they get to college. It is taking the leaner
body and putting the mass on them and you know,
consistently working with them as far as movement efficiency and
allowing them to grow into their own frame. We've taken
a lot of underdeveloped players at my last place, and
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you know, several of them are playing right now starting
in the NFL, but they weren't the ones that were
highly regarded. I think it's analyzing them at the high
school level or even in the in the transfer portal
and saying, well, these guys fit our system as far
as what we do. And then you've got to be
able to have a great online coach and develop the
technique in the in the tactics for them to have success.
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Inside of the offense. Part of the air rate a
little bit is you go a lot of times, you
go up tempo, you go fast, and it's more, you know,
throwing the ball across the yard as far as like
almost like being a point guard in basketball, just dishing
the ball off. And I'm not knocking it. I just
believe in running the ball because if you don't take
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any of the clock off, you know, if you don't
take any clock off because you go three incompletions and
out to just put your defense constantly in a tough situation.
And then with that, you have to be able to
win late in this season. And if you can't throw
the ball because of the elements and that's all you had,
you're kind of screwed. So I do believe in a balance.
It's not just that we're going to run the ball
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a million times a game, but you have to have
a balance to take it, you know, take control of
an offense otherwise, or take control of the defense otherwise.
You become one dimensal on that end, and then the
game ends up quick and your defense takes a million snaps.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Do we have time for one more segment? Pill? Yes,
all right, we'll take you a quick break. Come back
with Jimmy Rogers. Check their text line set to do
any questions. But I got a couple just about your guys.
You said you've been meeting with the players, the new,
the koups that are there already. I want to get
some thoughts on what you have to work with this year.
We'll do that. Jimmy Rogers coming up next.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
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Speaker 2 (18:00):
All right, hanging out today, Jimmy Rodgers new watching state
have football coach with US high school recruitings underway. That's
always a hard thing, right, You had guys would commit.
You had guys committed South to go to state. You
have guys that committed to Wazoo. How many guys? What
was the retention rate for players that had committed to
Washington State.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, a stack number, But I do know that we
have had eight early enrollies that are freshmen, and I
think one of those kids was committed to US. That's
South Dakota State that flipped an early enrolled already with
us here at Washington State. But yeah, I believe we
lost six. The rest of them are still in the
signing class planning to still come here. We had them
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up last weekend and just getting to know them has
been really great, just their parents and kind of I.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Know, it's what's the message you give them?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Give us a shot, honestly, give us an opportunity just
to you know, that was the initial and then just
I feel like everybody that was up this past weekend,
their families could feel like the energy and the positivity
amongst our staff and they felt like they've made the
right decision. My sticking with us.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So different world out here. You come from the Midwest,
you're coming out here now. You do have I'm sure
a handful of connections of guys that recruited out here
a little bit. You know, we've seen various coaches and
I'll just use both schools in our state Washingt or
Washington State coaches that come in and like immediately get
a connection with the high school programs. Others still want
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to go elsewhere. How important is this state to you
in terms of recruiting. How important are the local high
school coaches and the local high school kids here?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, I think it's extremely important to recruit home base.
I just came from a place where that was number one,
and watching that kind of develop and blossom and have
success with people that want to stay close to home
as pivotal. You know, when you're talking about the world
of transfer portal, you got to find the right fit,
and hopefully the right fit. There's enough people that live
here and enough good players that you can bring them
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into the building and develop relationships with them. And you know,
we're living in world of you know, who pays me
the most right now? And I think I just came
from a place where we've had a million guys come
through there and have an opportunity to go elsewhere and
they stuck with us.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Why.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, just the relationships. I think I think it's something
that we do a really good job at. And I
don't think it's just like getting to know somebody and
then when they play for you stopping we have We've
had these you know, the players are at our house constantly.
They became a part of our family. Our kids grew
up with these guys and getting to know them, and
they feel the sense of family. Our whole staff, I mean,
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we got we have like a village of little kids
on our team. I got too, and our whole staff.
There's probably twenty four kids under nine years old. So
when you can have the youth around them, and our
little kids can grow up and idolize these guys and
get to know them and have them over for dinner
and develop true relationships, not just something that's based off
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of what they do for me from a football standpoint.
And I think it matters. No, I know it matters.
I've watched it matter. So people feel like the investment
is there, and when you have great coaches, they feel
like everything that they need is in front of them
and they don't have to rush off for what is,
you know, a transactional situation, maybe somewhere else that offers
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them a little bit more money, because they feel like
they're getting everything that they need as far as a
person and as a human, as a student athlete, I
do believe that's doable, and that's how you separate yourself
is by showing that you care and investing them at
a deeper level.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, I mean, I'm daring to dream right now, going
back in the day of like, hey, you can get
a guy and develop them over two or three years,
god forbid, even redshirt them sometimes and let them get
bigger and stronger. And uh so, I think that I'm
with you. I think that could probably still exist along
the way.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
You got to find the right ones.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm just gonna ask you to find. But that's kind
of always been how Wazu's done it right. Like, I like,
you know this program well enough, you've been along and
long enough, you've talked to people like Jack and I'm
sure Alex and other guys around them, you know, the
next quarterbacks that are all hanging around like you. That's
how they do it right. You find that young guy
that wants to just develop or be a koog, right,
but you still have nil to deal with and you
still have to do that out there. How different is
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that for you? Like, how much of a learning curve
is that for you now as a head coach coming
in here compared to where it was in South Dakota State.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah, I would say that, and the NIL is different
to a different level. We dealt with it. You know,
a lot of our guys turned down six figure deals.
The quarterback just turned down a seven figure deal to
stick with us at South Dakota State.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So you got it this year, though, didn't he?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
He got it this year. He got it this year. Honestly,
he was set to go to the NFL and he
had some stuff with his shoulder, so he's decided to
go elsewhere and go to Iowa. But yeah, yeah, I
mean those things were evolving there as well. But I
do think that there's still if you find the kids
that want a certain fit. You can find the kids.
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You have to do a good job in the vetting
process to say is this kid going to be a
guy that's going to leave us? And I'm not saying
that it's still not worth the investment to take a
dynamic player or a player that has uber talent to
help you right away, but it is trying to find
ones that you can do something with long term, because
success just doesn't happen overnight. No matter how talented you are,
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you still have to come in and learn the scheme
and learn the technique and be a great team mate
in order to be a part of a culture that's sustainable,
that wants to win long term and not just flash
of the pan eight to nine wins one year and
then have an off year. It is about a level
of consistency, and I think that starts with finding players
that you can bring into your program and you don't
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have to rely on the transfer portal. Will we right now? Yes,
until we can create some sustainability in the program.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Quarterbacks Staves x House. We got a chance to watch
him in the Bowl game, and every Cougar fan was like, Wow,
like this guy's got a little something there. And remember
in the fall he can pete with Jeometier and we
all kind of sometimes you think guess lip service with
maybe Dicker was like it's just they're competing. Then you
watched him play and you probably could believe that there
was a real competition. What what have you seen? You've
watched his tape, you watched the game? What have you
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seen from Zebby?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I don't think it's just the tape though. Getting to
know him, he's a really mature person. He's got real
confident it's like true confidence. Some people act like they're confident,
they're really not confident, and you can see through some
of those things. He's a great leader. And every player
that I talked to along the way, whether they were
guys that were in the portal thinking about leaving and
came back or guys that are on the current team,
they've all mentioned Zevy as far as his leadership skills
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and the fact of them believing in him. And that
was pretty evident on the in the wide receiver crew.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
The you mentioned title in championship. Kind of a different
weird year this year with the in between the almost
a gap year and then the new PAC twelve starts
with some I mean, that's that's going to be a
good good good football, great basketball conference, good football conference
as well. When you look at that coming ahead, what
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mentions at you're opening press conference too, What gives you
the thought that you can win it and compete for
championships at the highest of levels.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, I think once you get the right kids in
the door and you develop a system that you believe in,
you're just you know, maybe elevating in the type of
talent that you can get in Washington State's a national
brand in which you can recruit to. I think it
was just seen in Devon Ellis and the type of
caliber player that wants to come play here. You know,
there wasn't a long standing relationship with Devin and he's
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one of the best wide receivers in the country that
we just signed and what was a one week span
of trying to rush get to know him and find
out what was important to him. And he turned down
a lot of places that he had the opportunity to play.
Some of those were in conference. So if you can
win those battles and recruiting, I don't know why we
can't think that we can win the battles on the field.
You know, if you're getting the quote unquote some of
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the better players and beating them and recruiting, then it
takes the scheme and the coaching to take you over
the top. And I feel confident in the coaching. I
feel confident in the scheme, just getting him in here
and thrusting, you know, thrusting them with our families and
making it feel like a family environment in order to
grow here to you know, to sustain some culture, to
have some wins.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I got about a minute here before Stevens kills me.
Seale Times is good, They'll be fine. They'll be one.
Look for the Sale Time story. How about that little
teas for them? Sales Times writing a story in Jimmy
Rodgers tomorrow. Huh, there's a teas from that. That's a
little kiss I gave to them. All right, Uh, what
would you do? What would you tell Washington State fans?
What do you want them to know? There's we're on
the west side of the state. This is where a
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good chunk of the alums live. What's your message to
Washington State football fans?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, I think it's about we're going to play a
brand of football that it's fast, physical and tough, and
we're going to be competitive this upcoming year. I don't
expect to wait to rebuild. I've heard that multiple times,
and I've never been a part of a rebuild. I've
been a part of winners, and I expect to win
in Washington State
Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Touch Down Glorious song, Jess. It's your favorite song to play,
isn't it about that? Yeah? You should. Well, some of
us in this state know the worst do our fight song.
Others that are maybe like the color purple, they know
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like the first three lines, but today is not a
day for them. Today is a day for us. Welcome
back to internus with you. Uh man. I'm excited about
this and been looking forward to having this conversation for a
while since we talked to our friend the athletic director
where there am McCoy at Washington State, right after Jimmy
Rodgers was hired as a new football coach at Washington State.
So I will just say this, welcome, How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm doing awesome. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I appreciate you coming in doing the tour cruising in Seattle.
Is this first time been to Seattle?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
In Seattle?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, Guys from South Dakota probably don't get out here
too often.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Probably not. I'm one of them. Haven't been out here,
but it's it's been awesome. So we were here last
night and getting our feet wet today.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What's what's the thing that has jumped out at you
since being hired about the school, the alums, the culture,
the fans, maybe the ex players you've talked about. I mean,
you come from a place that frankly was football crazy
and that's all you knew. But what is it about
this thing about Washington State that maybe has and the
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people or what have you that surprised you so far?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I would say just that the people they're you know,
really passionate about Washington State. I don't know if I've
ever left a conversation where it's not well, it's a koug,
always a koog, so here in that type of passion
behind the school, the brand, what the football program was
and can still be. Those things were a big part
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of why I wanted to take this job, honestly, was
the passion behind it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You were at South DA Coast State for a long time,
long time, long time. Was it hard to leave?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Extremely? I mean, you build relationships that last a lifetime
and I'll still have a part of my heart there.
Just that's where I raised my kids and that's where
I played college ball. Got to coach my Alba mater
as a head coach, and I think that's special. But
taking this one to me, you know, turned down many
opportunities elsewhere along my journey where most of my colleagues
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would have said I was crazy to turn down, and
I just felt like the grass wasn't always greener. But
I felt like this one fit my family. Small community
people are die hard about not only just the university,
but being a part of a winner, and the football
program was a huge part of the reason why I
wanted to come.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
One of the I like hearing that. I think Koop
fans like hearing that as well. I mean, because we
are a little bit different. I mean I joke about
our great sports information directors. I think he's a sociate
athletic director. You got a bigger title than that. Bill
Bill's teams been there forever, like and guys like that,
and Cooy's been there forever. There's something about the culture
that it's either And I said this when I went
there back in the eighties. My daughter graduated from there
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a few years ago. Pullman is a yes or no.
It's it's yes or no. You either go there and
love it and you're there and you finish your four, five, six,
seven years old while you're there, or as a coach,
you stay there and you love it, or it's just
not for you. So when you got there, did you
know right away it's not just the football program, but
this is a place we can make home.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, you know, like this looks a lot like the
Pullman looks like a lot like the western part of
the state of South Dakota. You know, where Mount Rushmore
is at the Hills Mountains, And me and my wife
would always joke when we'd have the opportunity to go
to what we call West River, which is the western
part of the state in South Dakota, we used to say, man,
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I just kind of wish Brooking, South Dakota was out here,
you know, just beautiful scenery, And yeah, that's what we've
experienced thus far in Pullman, and getting my family out
here for a couple of days for the opening press conference,
they were like, Yeah, this place is awesome. This place
is beautiful. So, you know, it may not be everybody's
cup of tea as far as a small town in
the community, but that is something that I look for
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along this journey as far as finding a place that
fit me in my family as far as raising our
kids in a smaller community where people are connected with
individuals and life isn't too fast and enjoy the relationships.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Jimmy Rodgers is here. He's a new head football coach
at Washington State University, kind enough to be in with
us for a little bit today here in the studio.
You mentioned turning down some other opportunities. You were that name,
you were the guy, your your name was out there
because of the success you had at South Dakota State.
What was it with Pullman that made you want to
come here as opposed to somewhere else. It's a big
job and you just mentioned the challenge is there. This
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is not this is not the old Pac twelve. The
new Pac twelves coming. So it's some heavy lifting going along.
So what was it football wise? It brought you out here?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah? I think it's a national brand to recruit to,
you know, having been in the Pack five or the
you know, the PAC twelve and Power five level. The
resources that are there. The administration knows what that looks
like and knows what having a competitive advantage looks like.
Bringing people to a small town where the people are
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bought into the program. Though every player that we've brought
on campus thus far, just on the officials, they can
feel the community. And I think when you recruit to
people in substance, that's more than just flash and hype
of a lot of facilities or big city or things
that really don't make an impact. When you can recruit
to the people and you get the right people in
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the right seats, I think you can have success. And
I felt that right away here.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Everyone brings up the same thing over and over again.
I'm sure you answered this question all the time when
you're on the West Side. But resource wise, you come
from an FCS level school, but you go to a
division ie A school or FBS what do we call
these these days? And all of that. What has Ann
told you about resources and giving you what you need
to compete, not as much even this year, but next year,
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especially when the new twelve comes into play. What has
she told you? What have you been assured of as
the new head football coach?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know, for me, this is more resources than I've
ever had. I haven't came in and had a ton
of demands of I need this or I need that.
This is more than what I'm used to and my
last job, I mean I did a lot of things,
and so did our coaching staff. We held a lot
of different hats, and coming to Washington State, I feel
like there's three to four people that that's what they specialize,
and so I haven't came in and complained about really
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anything thus far. I'm appreciative of the help that's there,
the support that's there, and with the right people in
the right seat, you can have success. So I'm not
necessarily looking for more and more and more. We need
to figure out what this team looks like this spring
and develop a winning culture on the field before I
start asking about what.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
We need, Jimmy, is that like the one of the
biggest things when you come from the FCS level is
and I just we were just talking to the break.
I mean, my son was playing small college football with
Worth up in Spokane, and like the head coach does
like eighteen things, you know, and FCS isn't that South
Dakoast State. It's a big program, a national brand at
that level. But it is different, right, like you know,
like like you come to Wazoo and you've got three
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or four people, you got to support staff that's probably
tenfold from what you're used to. Is is that kind
of maybe one of the not only the best things,
but also one of the biggest things that you kind
of go like, you probably want to put your hands
on things that other people are doing. Right.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, Honestly, I started looking at the amount of people
and I was like, I'm a little leary of giving
some things to people I've.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Are you good delegator or not? I am, But.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I like to touch everything and make sure that everything's
in place before I just pass it along. So part
of that is getting the staff on the same page
and making sure things are organized, that they feel comfortable
in what I expect moving forward. And the staff that
I brought with me, which is a large majority of
really everybody but one. They all know what I expect
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and how to do things. But it's also getting the
other key support pieces on the same page with that group.
And so yeah, I've been blessed with this opportunity and
I don't expect to waste any time and trying to
create something special here at Washington State.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Tell me about your coach. We'll talk with the coordinators.
Jesse Bob at your defensive coordinator, tell us about him.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, Jesse's been with me since I coached Jesse. So
my first job back was actually Jesse's first year coming
in as a incoming freshman, and we were laughing about
it because some of these freshmen that were committed to
us in this class that I've already signed with Washington State,
many here are here for the early and release. I mean,
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Jesse knows what that feels like to be recruited by
one person. And then when he showed up, I was
his coach, So yeah, getting to know him. He actually
played as a true freshman, and I coached him along
his journey and he went on to become a high
school coach in Nebraska, and then, knowing that he wanted
to get back into college, he was a graduate assistant
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for me learn kind of the structure of the defense
of what we were moving when I became the defensive
coordinator at at South Dakota State. And then he was,
you know, blessed with the opportunity to come out here
and coach under Jake Dickert as a graduate assistance on
the defense side of the ball. And then shortly after that,
after spending two years here, I hired him back as
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the safety's coach. Why I was the linebackers and defensive coordinator,
and then Jesse after one year of being with me
in that and just learning how it is evolved, I
made him the defensive coordinator when I became head coach,
and we had one of the best defenses, if not
the best defense in FCS history with him leading the charge.
So I feel really confident in what he's how he's
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developed over his years, and we see the game very
similar and bouncing ideas off of one another, off of
a structure that we both believe in has been really
seamless for the both of us.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Is it beneficial to all the fact that you know,
I don't want to say only a graduate assistant, because
we talked about guys wear a lot of hats. Those
guys wear like eighteen hats and get not a lot
out of it, but they worked really, really hard at
a coaching staff. So having him here, having him have
a little experience with Dickard and how much does that help.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He was one of the first he came with me.
It was me and Ron Pavock that came up. When
we first got out here, there was only three of us.
I was one of the three obviously, but having a
guy that knew the players because he knows some of
these players, you know, he coached some of these guys
on scout team five years ago. So then knowing the area,
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knowing how things work here at Washington State has been
huge for me.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The uh your what kind of defense do you like?
Like like like, I like, that's a big broad question,
I know, but just in general terms, you said that
you and Jesse share the same vision. What is that?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I mean, it's stems out of a four man front
and we'll put the right back seven on the field
that based off situation of whether it's run pass, and
the type of body that we need in the game
at the certain personnel. But it is a it is
a four to three. Some people call it a four
two five. At the end of the day, it's putting
the right person in the right situation to have success
based off the offensive personnel on which they line up in.
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But multiple multiple coverage is that we run. We don't
just everybody always says, well, what do you run?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
We run a little bit of everything, and it's creating
a balance. But I would say the number one thing
that we do is we change up the looks of
what it looks like prior to the snap, and so
not just the scheme is multiple, the front is multiple,
but the coverage and what it looks like and presents
itself is always ever changing. So playing on the attack,
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playing physical, if you can get the guys and the pieces,
the right pieces on the field at the right time
and you allow them to play as fast as possible,
it really still comes down to keeping leverage on the
ball and out physically people and playing relentless and cause
and turnovers.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Danny is it, friend Freud, Danny freyn is your offensive
coordinatoring and the quarterbacks coach. We've thought long been some
sort of version of an air raid with Mike, and
before that it was what Dennis and Mike ran, pass
heavy offenses a lot of times. Uh what's uh, what's
Danny gonna run?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah? I think you have to look every single year
at the skill set in what you have and giving
the best year best players of the ball. Don't make
it overly complicated. But we're gonna run the football and
we'll we'll you know, create one on one opportunities that
take advantage of teams weakness on the back end. Uh,
The one thing that I've always admired or do just
about facing Danny is that it's it's very unpredictable, and
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uh they do a really good job of developing the
skill set and and maximizing the opportunities of what a
defense presents to them and not just you know, ramming
their head against the wall and hoping that they have success.
He's did an unbelievable job at North Dakota, where I
had faced him for several years, and their their offense,
maybe although lack talent or not have as much talent
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as maybe the rest of the league, always produce points.
And he was the one offensive coordinator that always scored
more points on us than any other any other program.
So part of the reason why how I how I
came about him is is just that, uh Zach Luhan,
who as our offensive coordinator a couple of years ago,
left to become the offensive coordinator at Northwestern in Illinois.
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There and so I was looking for a quarterbacks coach
and a guy that could help us on the back
end as far as passing, uh you know, creating the
passing attack. And so when I had the opportunity to
get Danny to Brooking, South Dakota was a no brainer,
and then meeting his family it was it was it
was the right fit, and so bringing him here was
a no brainer. And I'm excited to see what he
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does and how he evolves this offense. But yeah, I
won't just be the air Raid. Will run the football,
and I believe in that. Part of the part of
the reason why is if you look across college football,
there is a brand that wins the national championship. And
although people think that's crazy, I won't and I won't.
You know, I won't give into that. Could it be done?
Surely it can. I know it won't done if you
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don't believe it can be done. So we have a
long road ahead of us before we start getting ourselves
into that. But yeah, you got to be able to
run the ball, and you got to win on defense,
and so when you do that, everything else opens up.
After that, the passing game will open up, and defensively,
you know, creating pressure on the quarterback opens up if
you can run the ball and stop the run.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Jimmy Rodgers joining US new Wathing State head football coach.
That's an interesting thing with the air Raid and how
it I always thought that and we've had wazoo fans. Shockingly,
fans have had these discussions amongst themselves, probably over a
few pops in a tailgate or something like that, going
why do we run the air raid when it's snowing
and raining and all these types of things. And I
always wondered if it was when Mike came in Leach,
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I mean the program. I'm sure you've done your history lessons,
and the program was in a downtrodden place, and how
can you flip the script quick? Well, there's a lot
feels like there's a lot more skill guys out there,
you know. The seven on seven world now has changed everything.
I just where we live out in Maple Valley, that
a massive seven on seven tournament this week and I
droll by their Saturday Sunday. It's like there's like a
thousand kids on four fields and it's just like that
what people are doing. And I feel like receivers you
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can find them, you know, all over the place. I
always feel like it's harder to find the big boys,
the guys that can block up front. Is that still
the case? And how how challenging is that in today's football,
where there's such an emphasis on seven out of seven
to find the guys because you want every coach wants
to run the football to well Mike Leech exception. Outside
of coach Leachs, everyone's run football. They always say they
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want to run football, but you can't do unless you
have the big boys. Is it getting harder to find
some of those dudes?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think it's harder to Uh, yes, yes, the answer.
It is harder to find the athletic ones that can
not only be six or five or two eighty and
still move right. But you also have to take ones
that are under develop and develop them. You're not just
going to find the finished product right out of high school.
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A lot of the guys that are built to be,
you know, a powerful ol aligneman, sometimes they're tapped out
when they get to college. It is taking the leaner
body and putting the mass on them and you know,
consistently working with them as far as movement efficiency and
allowing them to grow into their own frame. We've taken
a lot of underdeveloped players at my last place, and
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you know, several of them are playing right now starting
in the NFL, but they weren't the ones that were
highly regarded. I think it's analyzing them at the high
school level or even in the in the transfer portal
and saying, well, these guys fit our system as far
as what we do. And then you've got to be
able to have a great online coach and develop the
technique in the in the tactics for them to have success.
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Inside of the offense. Part of the air rate a
little bit is you go a lot of times, you
go up tempo, you go fast, and it's more, you know,
throwing the ball across the yard as far as like
almost like being a point guard in basketball, just dishing
the ball off. And I'm not knocking it. I just
believe in running the ball because if you don't take
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any of the clock off, you know, if you don't
take any clock off because you go three incompletions and
out to just put your defense constantly in a tough situation.
And then with that, you have to be able to
win late in this season. And if you can't throw
the ball because of the elements and that's all you had,
you're kind of screwed. So I do believe in a balance.
It's not just that we're going to run the ball
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a million times a game, but you have to have
a balance to take it, you know, take control of
an offense otherwise, or take control of the defense otherwise.
You become one dimensal on that end, and then the
game ends up quick and your defense takes a million snaps.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Do we have time for one more segment? Pill? Yes,
all right, we'll take you a quick break. Come back
with Jimmy Rogers. Check their text line set to do
any questions. But I got a couple just about your guys.
You said you've been meeting with the players, the new,
the koups that are there already. I want to get
some thoughts on what you have to work with this year.
We'll do that. Jimmy Rogers coming up next.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
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Speaker 2 (18:00):
All right, hanging out today, Jimmy Rodgers new watching state
have football coach with US high school recruitings underway. That's
always a hard thing, right, You had guys would commit.
You had guys committed South to go to state. You
have guys that committed to Wazoo. How many guys? What
was the retention rate for players that had committed to
Washington State.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, a stack number, But I do know that we
have had eight early enrollies that are freshmen, and I
think one of those kids was committed to US. That's
South Dakota State that flipped an early enrolled already with
us here at Washington State. But yeah, I believe we
lost six. The rest of them are still in the
signing class planning to still come here. We had them
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up last weekend and just getting to know them has
been really great, just their parents and kind of I.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Know, it's what's the message you give them?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Give us a shot, honestly, give us an opportunity just
to you know, that was the initial and then just
I feel like everybody that was up this past weekend,
their families could feel like the energy and the positivity
amongst our staff and they felt like they've made the
right decision. My sticking with us.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So different world out here. You come from the Midwest,
you're coming out here now. You do have I'm sure
a handful of connections of guys that recruited out here
a little bit. You know, we've seen various coaches and
I'll just use both schools in our state Washingt or
Washington State coaches that come in and like immediately get
a connection with the high school programs. Others still want
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to go elsewhere. How important is this state to you
in terms of recruiting. How important are the local high
school coaches and the local high school kids here?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, I think it's extremely important to recruit home base.
I just came from a place where that was number one,
and watching that kind of develop and blossom and have
success with people that want to stay close to home
as pivotal. You know, when you're talking about the world
of transfer portal, you got to find the right fit,
and hopefully the right fit. There's enough people that live
here and enough good players that you can bring them
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into the building and develop relationships with them. And you know,
we're living in world of you know, who pays me
the most right now? And I think I just came
from a place where we've had a million guys come
through there and have an opportunity to go elsewhere and
they stuck with us.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Why.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, just the relationships. I think I think it's something
that we do a really good job at. And I
don't think it's just like getting to know somebody and
then when they play for you stopping we have We've
had these you know, the players are at our house constantly.
They became a part of our family. Our kids grew
up with these guys and getting to know them, and
they feel the sense of family. Our whole staff, I mean,
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we got we have like a village of little kids
on our team. I got too, and our whole staff.
There's probably twenty four kids under nine years old. So
when you can have the youth around them, and our
little kids can grow up and idolize these guys and
get to know them and have them over for dinner
and develop true relationships, not just something that's based off
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of what they do for me from a football standpoint.
And I think it matters. No, I know it matters.
I've watched it matter. So people feel like the investment
is there, and when you have great coaches, they feel
like everything that they need is in front of them
and they don't have to rush off for what is,
you know, a transactional situation, maybe somewhere else that offers
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them a little bit more money, because they feel like
they're getting everything that they need as far as a
person and as a human, as a student athlete, I
do believe that's doable, and that's how you separate yourself
is by showing that you care and investing them at
a deeper level.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, I mean, I'm daring to dream right now, going
back in the day of like, hey, you can get
a guy and develop them over two or three years,
god forbid, even redshirt them sometimes and let them get
bigger and stronger. And uh so, I think that I'm
with you. I think that could probably still exist along
the way.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
You got to find the right ones.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm just gonna ask you to find. But that's kind
of always been how Wazu's done it right. Like, I like,
you know this program well enough, you've been along and
long enough, you've talked to people like Jack and I'm
sure Alex and other guys around them, you know, the
next quarterbacks that are all hanging around like you. That's
how they do it right. You find that young guy
that wants to just develop or be a koog, right,
but you still have nil to deal with and you
still have to do that out there. How different is
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that for you? Like, how much of a learning curve
is that for you now as a head coach coming
in here compared to where it was in South Dakota State.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah, I would say that, and the NIL is different
to a different level. We dealt with it. You know,
a lot of our guys turned down six figure deals.
The quarterback just turned down a seven figure deal to
stick with us at South Dakota State.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So you got it this year, though, didn't he?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
He got it this year. He got it this year. Honestly,
he was set to go to the NFL and he
had some stuff with his shoulder, so he's decided to
go elsewhere and go to Iowa. But yeah, yeah, I
mean those things were evolving there as well. But I
do think that there's still if you find the kids
that want a certain fit. You can find the kids.
(22:56):
You have to do a good job in the vetting
process to say is this kid going to be a
guy that's going to leave us? And I'm not saying
that it's still not worth the investment to take a
dynamic player or a player that has uber talent to
help you right away, but it is trying to find
ones that you can do something with long term, because
success just doesn't happen overnight. No matter how talented you are,
(23:16):
you still have to come in and learn the scheme
and learn the technique and be a great team mate
in order to be a part of a culture that's sustainable,
that wants to win long term and not just flash
of the pan eight to nine wins one year and
then have an off year. It is about a level
of consistency, and I think that starts with finding players
that you can bring into your program and you don't
(23:40):
have to rely on the transfer portal. Will we right now? Yes,
until we can create some sustainability in the program.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Quarterbacks Staves x House. We got a chance to watch
him in the Bowl game, and every Cougar fan was like, Wow,
like this guy's got a little something there. And remember
in the fall he can pete with Jeometier and we
all kind of sometimes you think guess lip service with
maybe Dicker was like it's just they're competing. Then you
watched him play and you probably could believe that there
was a real competition. What what have you seen? You've
watched his tape, you watched the game? What have you
(24:09):
seen from Zebby?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I don't think it's just the tape though. Getting to
know him, he's a really mature person. He's got real
confident it's like true confidence. Some people act like they're confident,
they're really not confident, and you can see through some
of those things. He's a great leader. And every player
that I talked to along the way, whether they were
guys that were in the portal thinking about leaving and
came back or guys that are on the current team,
they've all mentioned Zevy as far as his leadership skills
(24:32):
and the fact of them believing in him. And that
was pretty evident on the in the wide receiver crew.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
The you mentioned title in championship. Kind of a different
weird year this year with the in between the almost
a gap year and then the new PAC twelve starts
with some I mean, that's that's going to be a
good good good football, great basketball conference, good football conference
as well. When you look at that coming ahead, what
(25:00):
mentions at you're opening press conference too, What gives you
the thought that you can win it and compete for
championships at the highest of levels.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, I think once you get the right kids in
the door and you develop a system that you believe in,
you're just you know, maybe elevating in the type of
talent that you can get in Washington State's a national
brand in which you can recruit to. I think it
was just seen in Devon Ellis and the type of
caliber player that wants to come play here. You know,
there wasn't a long standing relationship with Devin and he's
(25:29):
one of the best wide receivers in the country that
we just signed and what was a one week span
of trying to rush get to know him and find
out what was important to him. And he turned down
a lot of places that he had the opportunity to play.
Some of those were in conference. So if you can
win those battles and recruiting, I don't know why we
can't think that we can win the battles on the field.
You know, if you're getting the quote unquote some of
(25:50):
the better players and beating them and recruiting, then it
takes the scheme and the coaching to take you over
the top. And I feel confident in the coaching. I
feel confident in the scheme, just getting him in here
and thrusting, you know, thrusting them with our families and
making it feel like a family environment in order to
grow here to you know, to sustain some culture, to
have some wins.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I got about a minute here before Stevens kills me.
Seale Times is good, They'll be fine. They'll be one.
Look for the Sale Time story. How about that little
teas for them? Sales Times writing a story in Jimmy
Rodgers tomorrow. Huh, there's a teas from that. That's a
little kiss I gave to them. All right, Uh, what
would you do? What would you tell Washington State fans?
What do you want them to know? There's we're on
the west side of the state. This is where a
(26:31):
good chunk of the alums live. What's your message to
Washington State football fans?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, I think it's about we're going to play a
brand of football that it's fast, physical and tough, and
we're going to be competitive this upcoming year. I don't
expect to wait to rebuild. I've heard that multiple times,
and I've never been a part of a rebuild. I've
been a part of winners, and I expect to win
in Washington State
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