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April 13, 2024 55 mins

A star-studded cast of Fox Sports Radio talent fill in for Dan Patrick as DP and the guys were off all week! Covino and Rich spark controversy after UConn's title win, and the guys dive into some of the wildest stories of the week in Mid Weak Major. Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington, and Brady Quinn chat with Senior NFL Reporter for The MMQB Albert Breer about the latest on the NFL Draft and react live to news of the death of OJ Simpson. Doug Gottlieb and Dan Beyer finish out the week by discussing Kentucky hiring Mark Pope as their new head coach.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
What a buddy? Phil In Frank, Cavino and.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Rich normally on from two to four on the West,
five to seven on the East Monday through Friday. And
we have a bonus podcast if you guys want to
see what you hear called over promise because blubber Lips
Davis usually over promises things we never get to, but
we get an extra.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hour in for the DP Show, Day two of the.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Dan Patrick Hatrick Again, good morning and thank you for
hanging out with us. Thank you for checking out our
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So always staying busy and always an honor to be
in for the DP Show.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Now, how is Jason Kelcey and Caitlyn Clark the same?
I'll explain in a minute, but I just need a
quick answer from you, Danny g Joel, you guys want
to chime in. Love to hear your thoughts on a
fight that was going down on one of my group
texts last night.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh boy, so you.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Can't Purdue men's final game March mad This culminates.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
One shining moment.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Montage after Midnight Midnight. Yeah, my East Coast buddies are
fighting about Yukon.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Tony and Vinnie going at it. My buddy Mikey Carmine
getting fired up, my buddy Mikey and Chris. And here's
the argument.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Want your thoughts. So my buddy Chris went to his
undergrad at a small college in Connecticut called Fairfield. Okay, graduated,
got a.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Job years later, got married, He's got a couple boys.
All the guy does is work, watch the Mets, and
coach like three different Little league teams his life. He's
living that sports dad life life.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
The last couple of weeks he's been all like, yeah, Yukon,
We're like, Yukon, you're a Mets fan, you're a Rangers fan,
and you're a Giants fan.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, what does Yukon thing?

Speaker 4 (02:12):
And here's his answer, Oh, I think he works for
American Express.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
And he's like, you know, he's sort of a big
dog there.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
He's like, back in twenty ten, they paid for me
to get my masters and I went to Yukon.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I'm like wow, I'm like hold on now, no, no,
what do you mean?

Speaker 6 (02:31):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
No, I was like, online, did you go to the campus?
I'm like, you can't claim you went somewhere.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I have a rule. Tell me if you like this rule.
I already don't like your rule.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
If you haven't been drunk on the campus, having slept
someone with someone on the campus, or know the local
bars and restaurants on the campus, how do you.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Know he didn't sleep with somebody. You can't say. Maybe
he just can't tell you.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
You can't say, oh, I'm alumni because you got your mean.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
But you should take this theory in ship.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
What are you talking to if you if you got
your master's there online?

Speaker 7 (03:09):
This guy, I would want to reach to the phone
and punch this guy.

Speaker 8 (03:12):
Nowadays, Richie, you can't make that rule because so many
people do school online.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I was like, you might as well tell me you
went to the University of Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Are you gonna tell me my daughter didn't pass fifth
grade because she had to do it online?

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Oh, COVID pandemic, But listen, COVID exceptions. Forget that nonsense.
I'm saying, for instance, you went to montclair State. I
went to Syracuse. You went there, you lived in a dorm,
you had random Shenanigans. You drank, you partied, you smoked weed,
you went to class, you walked campus.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You had to stumble across the campus at night. You've
you've stumble across the quad for it to count.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
You've eaten the food court, you've sat in the student
section at a game. If your company paid for you
to get your masters online.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
You can't say you went to that time. What if
you go there for the graduation? Ah?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, like the rich didn't even walk. So I think
that's even weaker.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
I think graduate, Yeah, you didn't graduate. Get out of here rules.
I don't like your rule.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I think he absolutely got a degree from that university
as an adult. Hey, dude, there's people that don't even
show up to work because they could do it from home.
They still work from that place in today's world, Like
Danny g said, more than ever, that matters, More than ever,
that counts. There's so many moms too that are busy
being moms or your friend busy being a dad, that

(04:33):
are taking online classes. How are you gonna tell me
that doesn't count. Of what I'm saying is there is
a distinct difference between.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Difference with itcounts. There's no difference. My buddy went to Fairfield.
Your buddy graduated from Ukon. He went Cornelius.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
He went to Fairfield, graduated in the early two thousands,
a decade later. Because his company is like, you know,
we'll pay for you to get your mass and he
took he took them online classes. Now you tell me
he's alumni.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
By the way, that sounds like a nightmare to me.
I wouldn't want to sit there, dude.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I dread taking human resources classes from this company.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I'll do you have to do one again.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
But when when Boatman hits us up and he's like, yeah,
you're over due on one of your HR courses for
Fox Sports, and iHeart, I'm like, I want to pay
my daughter to do.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
It for me.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
Hey, can you sit here and just do this because.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
There's another one doing the seventeen So I dread.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
So I actually give your buddy more credit for having
the patients to put his dad life aside there and
actually do this.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
That's the analogy twenty bucks to do Minetel. Yeah, man,
it's bait based on the dump button situation. In the
afternoons with you guys, you don't.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Maybe watch those may I need to watch that maybe
we should pay closer attention.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
There's a hint, just turn it on. My point is,
actually I have a theory on how to do that.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
By the way, this is a whole I don't want
to take you off your tangent rig Here's how you
take an quiz at the end of it day. Well,
here's what you do. Here's my method, and it works
every time. Okay, every time you pick the lamest possible answer,
and it's ninety nine percent of the time the correct.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Show who is wrong in this scenario.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
And it's like if like c is like John is
inappropriate with everything you did, so you you don't even
have to pay attention.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
You just read the three answers right, and it's the
lamest possible one.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
You hit that you're correct.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Cut off.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Oh you're really gonna like this one because you can
choose the wrong answer and it just keeps right on going.
John told John told Stephanie she looked pretty at work.
John's a piece of garbage.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
Sean.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
See, Sean is the worst guy ever wrong, But let's
be one. Hey, John needs to be better looking to
ask her out on it.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
My point is those tests are dreadful and miserable. So
for your friend and be able to do this and
still pass and graduate from a prestigious university. Good for
him for being proud. I think that's awesome. Hey, man,
if I would do it, if I could.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
All I'm saying, and I stand by this. If you
got your mesters online at a college.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
You are not alumni. Wow, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
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Speaker 4 (08:28):
Covino on Rich in for the amazing Dan Patrick. Love
filling in for Dan. It's an honor, a pleasure. And
we're talking about bad neighbors. Mike who runs his place, Yeah,
said Mike, who runs the guy that runs his place,
you know, Mike. Mike was saying that when he was
a kid, he doesn't know how they did it, but
anytime a ball would go over his neighbor's fence.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
They would cut the ball in half and then throw
it back, throw it back.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
I'm like, cut it and he's like, in half would
cut a baseball? And that's like real commitment and hatred.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Like that's Edward Scissor. I think they would cut the baseball.
He was, I don't know how you do it.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
We're live from Mercedes Benz Studios, and congrats to Dan
Patrick listener ray S who won the DP Celebrity Bracket Challenge,
and congrats to Todd fifth Oh Fritzi, Yeah, Fritzi, who
won the bracket challenge amongst the celebrities. Check out the
final standings at Fox Sports Radio dot com. And thanks
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(09:25):
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Speaker 3 (09:27):
So Todd, Fritz and ray S tearing it up.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Stick around because every Wednesday on the Covino and Rich Show,
which normally airs from two to four on the West
five to seven on the East, we do Midweek Major.
Every Midweek we go over the biggest stories in sports
and pop culture. Are they midweek or major? We're gonna
do that, but let's do a little crossfire. Way back
on a Wednesday, Crossfire Little rapid fire on Crossfire the

(09:55):
phone action at eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Yeah,
based on that piece of garbage that has garbage all
over their house.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's all over the national news. The biggest trash bag
out there. Seven tons of trash removed from this one house.
It was all over the front and backyard. Forget about
the inside of the house. This was the outside of
the house. You think your neighbor's bad. Cameron in Indiana,
what's up, Cam?

Speaker 9 (10:18):
Yeah, Hey, so my neighbor, Colonel I just lived in.
I just moved down in October and he has been
going absolutely ballistics. Let me tell you guys. Then, so
I paid a grand to six the entire event, but
need it prepaired. I got a mini Golden Noodle. It's
about by thirty towns. Well. I couldn't figure out how

(10:40):
this little one ever was getting out anyway, she got
out like twice and it went from get two dogs inside,
absolutely kind of sating me out.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
You know, your phone's terrible, Camp, But I get what
you're saying. Your dog.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Did you see that viral club like maybe a couple
months back or some psycho neighbors with the cat.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Did you see that where the guys like, well, you're
trying to get with my cats? That I did see that.
You don't know what I'm talking about. Look at it.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
He's just so many stories. Man, people are so weird.
Matt and Long Beach. You're on CNR in Weirdos.

Speaker 10 (11:16):
Hello, I got a neighbor's story. Let's just call her
Kathy Bates for misery. So I bought this Allison Belmont
shower many years ago, and she would live next door,
and uh, there was a disclosure agreement. I'm all, she
can't be that bad. So I met her a couple
of months. Hey, how you doing, YadA, YadA YadA. Then
she would call the cops on me in Long Beach

(11:39):
when I wasn't even there, like multiple times, just kind
of planned the seed like I was the problem child. Meanwhile,
she's smoking weed all day long. And then she would
go and hop my back fence and drill into my
house and put up a dog gito trap my dog inside,
the dog running.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
You know it's you know it's wild. Thank you met.
Now You're gonna get a lot of pet story you
ever you have the ring doorbell?

Speaker 5 (12:02):
App?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Does everyone have ring or some type of you know,
doorbell ding ding ding.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Ninety of the little updates are my pet got out.
I could promise you there's probably venteful neighbors that are.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Like, I'm gonna let their pet out.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
It's not always the landscape. I guarantee, there's like spiteful
terrible people.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
That is the update all the time. Alan and so
kel Hey, Alan, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (12:23):
I just want to say I was actually that bad
neighbor with the horrible yard. Let it go full of
weeks six feet high, and my neighbor actually did all
the work as far as hiring a contractor the person
I'll come out reseat it, put a new sprinkler system.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Lazy or you hurt your back or something.

Speaker 12 (12:41):
Excuse got lazy?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Lazy?

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, you lazy bum.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
I like, let's do thank you. I wanted two more quickies.
Jeff A z Arizona. What's up, Bud?

Speaker 12 (12:52):
All the work?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
What's up?

Speaker 12 (12:54):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (12:54):
Are we doing this in the morning. It's a great
neighbor story. So I'm moved to this neighborhood and this
guy's got a front area where he get parked three cars.
So I noticed there was just a couple cars in
there in a boat.

Speaker 12 (13:11):
So I'm walking my dog down his alley and I
look in his backyard over Spence and it's filled with
buckets and buckets of bolts and nuts and parts from
a plumbing like a plumbing place that he's got steel
pieces from, like axles off of cars.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I guess, I guess car parts is better than body parts.
Let me tell you some of those stories. We don't
need to take any more. We got to get into
Midweek Major.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
But I gotta say, a gross neighbor will ruin your experience.
I had a rental house in Texas for a little while. Yeah,
and when I was selling the house, I was mortified
because one of the neighbors.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
You could see.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Their hoarding of like little tractor parts and this and that,
and you know they had like the coolers on the front.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
And I'm like, God, I'm trying to sell this house.
Stop being a piece of trash. Yeah, it doesn't help.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
So again, seven tons removed from this house in Fairfax.
Again from the outside. That's not even the inside of
the house. And that brings us to mid Week Major.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Covino and Rich gets you over the middle of the
week where mid Week Major.

Speaker 13 (14:24):
I love that we.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Throw sports and pop culture headlines and topics at the Fellas,
and it's like the kids.

Speaker 12 (14:30):
Say, that's Summit week.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Definitely see in our score mid Week major.

Speaker 14 (14:39):
Yeah and sing today here with you.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
When you hear the horns hit, you know you've.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Made it to the middle of the week.

Speaker 14 (14:47):
Now, before we hand things over to the number one
and only the host of this feature, we like to
roll the big red Love dice in the main studio.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
These are our Danny G Sticky Red Love Please by what.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Do you got? All right? Canbino? First? Eight eight party?
And Rich roll all right?

Speaker 14 (15:11):
It gets to go first and now the most famous
person out of rialto California outside of Ronnie Lott and
JJ fadd It's Danny G.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Color Stop hold your applause.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
All the hotest stories in the world of sports and entertainment.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
Danny Danny, the most buttery voice in radio.

Speaker 8 (15:31):
Let's start with Aaron Rodgers. He was podcasting No big
surprise there. He said he really fell back in love
with the game of football after being traded to New
York and quote it was absolutely beautiful, special and deep
and rich and yummy and just incredible. And then one
of the most heartbreaking nights of my life when I
played four plays guys Rogers calling football yummy, midweek or major.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
You know, I go first, so I think this is
I think it's major major. I'll tell you what get
out of these. I think football is yummy, Tam. I
love football. But you know what, I do get the
sense that Aaron Rodgers, if you watch Hard Knocks on
HBO Max, which I did, put aside the politics and
what you might think of Aaron Rodgers personally, he really

(16:19):
led that team. He was really a leader. The fans
and the teammates he had with the Jets really did
embrace him. And I thought we were gonna see a
hell of a lot of fun last year, and I
think we just push it back to this year. I
think Aaron Rodgers still got guess in the tank. I
think Aaron Rodgers is gonna have a little rebirth in
New York.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Just just delayed by one year.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
It's not It's a mid story at best. Everything about
that night was weak, to be honest, but it's a
mid story. Yummy crumble cookies are yummy. Football's not yummy.
It's like how Rich says, everything's cute. No puppies and
babies are cute. Stop saying that you're a grown man. Yummy,
that's cute. You know it's not yummy when those cookies

(17:00):
at Homer calling my name from the pantry.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Covino Coquita cookies are yummy.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Football not yummy. So all right, hopefully the next story
here is delicious.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (17:12):
Viewership for Monday nights men's championship game was up slightly
from Yukon's victory a year ago, but Yukon's win averaged
just under four million viewers, fewer than South Carolina's victory
over Caitlin Clark and Iowa rich Is this midweek or major?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
This is major?

Speaker 4 (17:29):
This is major, And listen the sports media world, TV radio.
Everyone's piling on the whole breakthrough in women's sports, which
it is, but we gotta remember why. It's because of
the great characters and personalities and women's college hoops is
keeping these women around because of nil because of opportunities.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
I truly believe.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
That it will be a slight struggle to keep that
enthusiasm when Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and these stars
go to the WNBA. Well, you have the same enthusiasm
for the Indiana Fever as you did for Iowa LSU.
Probably not, but I think it is a big step
for women's hoops and women's sports in general.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Think about it.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Even if it drops off a lot next year, Cavino,
even if they lost a bunch of viewers, it's still
on par with the men.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I think this is a big step. I have to
agree with Rich.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I don't want to agree with Rich, but this is major.
The women had more viewers, more buzz, it was more exciting. Right,
when's the last time you said that? But on the positive,
even though the Yukon game had four million less than
the women, it was still more than their previous wins.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Still more than last year. It's not like the men
went down.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, the viewership for the men increased, but it just
goes to show you how popular the women were this year.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
So props to them.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Just want to see them keep that momentum, not only
in the WNBA but also in college basketball.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
So props.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
All right, Tiger Tiger Woods, y'all, he spoke about winning
the Masters again. Quote, if everything comes together, I believe
I can get one more. Rich Tiger's confidence midweek or major.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I think it's major.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Listen, you know I'm gonna compare it to Mike Tyson
and Jake Paul. They always say what goes last in
a fighter, power and strength is the last to go. Right,
Mike Tyson could have that one last punch against Jake Paul.
Tiger Woods the greatest of all time. Maybe he's got
one more, Maybe the one we saw a couple of

(19:27):
years ago was the last one in the tank. Well,
you know what, golf unlike other sports, you could be
old and still be good at golf. It's not necessarily
a young man's game. It's not like a running back
in the NFL. Uh Major. I agree.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I think anytime you see a goat like this talking
a big game, it gets everybody fired up. You gotta
love that confidence. That confidence is what made him Tiger
Woods in the first place.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Think about what he overcame with the injuries and the
accent and everything right, and not only that, the story
what a few days ago we talked about it. He's
even giving up sex, no women, so right, wasn't that
the story?

Speaker 3 (20:02):
I think he had his fill in the two thousand
oh that's true.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
But I mean so when you think about the discipline
it takes to make that part of your game plan.
I think it's dope, man. That props to him going
for it.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I also want you to keep in mind Tiger Woods.
We've just known him a long time. He was born
in the mid seventies. The guys in his late forties,
mid to late forties. It's not like Tiger Woods is
sixty and we're like, could he win another is in
his forties.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's very possible. If he don't, he needs to do though.
He needs to take it home. As SVP says, shaved
the head. Yeah, he really, he has to. Man, it's
a bad look. Give me one more, Danny j all right,
one more quick one here.

Speaker 8 (20:40):
Police in Scotland say a reported armed man who led
to a train returning to a station. Turns out he
was a Star Wars costplayer on his way to a
comic book convention. The police, several three police Scotland, two
British Transport Police, two firearm officers met this guy. He
was in a Storm Trooper costume. He had to explain

(21:01):
that his blaster was a plastic prop. He was, as
I said, on his way to this convention. The police
instead gave him a ride home carrying a blaster on
a train.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Rich Midweek or Major. I think this is the lamest
story ever. It's the real guns greeted him.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Let me tell you, that's what you get when you're
a nerd that dresses up a little too elaborate for
some nerd con But uh yeah, I think it's pretty funny.
It's it's it's weak, but it's funny that this guy,
you know, gets gets caught out there.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
You know, he's lucky he didn't get shot or something.
That's that's the good part of the story.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, it seems like they always missing Star Wars anyway.
So hey, you know what, man, this is a funny
story but weak as hell. Yeah, as Monsey says here
on Fox Sports Radio, you play stupid games, you win
stupid prizes, Like what a bonehead walking around in a store?
Who does that? Are you gonna defend that walking around?
You're grown man, walking around like a stormtrooper.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Come on, get out here with the blaster in a backpack? Yeah,
where's my son?

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Would say, pewers, pew pew Yeah, get out wers. Thank you,
Danny g Midweek Major, Hey, if we missed any stories
that you know caught your eye.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
In the world of sports and entertainment.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Always feel free to hit us up at Covin and
Rich usually on in the afternoon two to four West
Coast five to seven your drive home on the East Coast.
Filling in for DP right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
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Speaker 15 (22:31):
It's Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for Dan and
the guys here on FSR. So we are going to
have a discussion about one team that's making life on
themselves a little bit more difficult in the world of football.
That'll be yours here in about twenty minutes from now.
But here to make things easy on us is the

(22:52):
one and only Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content
strategist at the MMQB. You can find him on Twitter
or x at Albert Bri.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
You'r a B. What's happening, Good morning to you er
doing We're just now Albert?

Speaker 15 (23:05):
Could you be trusted like if they pulled you aside
and said, hey, thinking about sending you to Brazil for
Week one? Could you be could you be trusted to
be a professional while out in Brazil covering Packers Eagles
to kick off the season on a Friday night.

Speaker 13 (23:22):
I'm pretty good at juggling different things, so yeah, I mean,
I think there's a relatively high percentage chance that I
would make it to the game on Friday night.

Speaker 15 (23:31):
Yeah, so you at least be to the get to
the game. That would be the that would be the goal,
and then we'll figure it out from there.

Speaker 13 (23:38):
I mean, although although I've heard I've heard uber rides
down there it can take you to weird places.

Speaker 16 (23:42):
I don't know if that's true or not.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I've heard, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 17 (23:45):
That's problematic, the type of places you'd be something a
little strange, for a little change, weird or.

Speaker 15 (24:02):
So. We were talking about how there's a report out
that the Vikings have set up a private meeting with
Jadeen Daniels, and you know, now the commanders are meeting
with Drake May and JJ McCarthy and they're also meeting
with jade and Daniels, and there's just like it feels
like this is a lot of the run of the
mill sort of stuff. As we gear up for the
draft coming up here in a couple of weeks. But

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is there a draft story out there, something that you've
heard or you've got any sort of intel on that
you look at and go, that's interesting that could have
a real impact near the top of the draft or
even in the first round.

Speaker 13 (24:36):
Yeah, I think the one thing that already has is
the Giants at least creating the perception that they're in
on the quarterbacks right now. Whether they are or not
remains to be seen, but like they're doing everything you
would do if you were going to take one.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
You know.

Speaker 13 (24:50):
And so that's you know, they had McCarthy and may
in at the beginning of March, which is incredibly incredibly
early to be doing a thirty visit. Those normally happen
during April, like right around now, and they went and
worked a few of the guys out privately, they showed
up to the pro days. So like, you know, least
say the Giants have done all the things you would

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do if you were going to take one in the
top ten, And you know, like that does two things.
One and prepares them if they are going to take one,
but two they also has created this perception that they're
the team that you have to jump over to get
one if you want the fourth one. So you know, Minnesota, Vegas, Denver, like,
if one of those teams wants to go get the

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fourth quarterback, now there's just a perception out there that
they have to get over the Giants to go get
that guy.

Speaker 16 (25:37):
Well, could that.

Speaker 13 (25:37):
Be because that's what the Giants want out there? And
if the Giants want that out there, well what would.

Speaker 16 (25:43):
The effects be?

Speaker 13 (25:44):
The effects would be that would guarantee either Malik Neighbors
or Marvin Harrison would fall into their.

Speaker 16 (25:48):
Lap of six.

Speaker 13 (25:50):
So you know, like, I think that that's one of
the interesting ones. I just think Denver's lurking, Like I
just like, you know, they've been kind of quiet about
their quarterback evaluation and everything else. I just know this,
like Sean Payton loved Patrick Mahomes seven years ago and
was very close to getting and would have taken them eleventh. Overall,
they want to Marshaun Battimore in that spot.

Speaker 16 (26:11):
So a good player.

Speaker 13 (26:13):
But you know, obviously things probably go a lot differently
in New Orleans if you know, Patrick Mahomes is on
the roster and maybe Sean Payton's still there, and so
does that linger with them? And if there is one
of these guys that he really likes, is he get
aggressive to go and get get him? You know, right
now they're starting quarterback Jared Sidham. I know, you know,
Sean feels like he could go out and play a

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season with Jared Sidham if he needed to. I just
you know, there's a big part of me that wonders
that they got another swing in them somewhere at that position.

Speaker 18 (26:44):
What is the one thing you're keeping an eye on
right now, give it's kind of that dead period before
we actually get to the draft. Is there any potential trade,
any potential signing or something that couldn't happened that would
change the landscape of what the draft looks.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Like up the end of the month.

Speaker 13 (27:00):
Yeah, I mean, I think the receivers Brady, you know,
Brandon Nyuk T Higgins. Now, like those guys aren't on
the block per se, but you know, teams are gonna
call and and and see, you know if if either
of those guys are available, you know, and I think
in both those cases, you know, for those teams there's

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like a big picture element.

Speaker 16 (27:22):
You know, they love the.

Speaker 13 (27:22):
Players, but you know what what like, if you pay T.
Higgins at the top of the market, like, then you're
probably gonna have to pay Jamar Chase more than you
pay T.

Speaker 16 (27:31):
Higgins.

Speaker 13 (27:31):
And you've already got Joe Burrow and they're fifty five
million dollars per So we're talking about between the three
of them one hundred and ten million, one hundred and
twenty million per year, you know, And that's just in
one phase of the game that you're investing at, you know,
So can you do that if you're Cincinnati long term
or is it better to get a second round pick
for T.

Speaker 16 (27:50):
Higgins and then you know.

Speaker 13 (27:52):
Draft his replacement. You know that that's the question. Brandon Ayuk. Obviously,
the Niners have a lot of mouths to feed.

Speaker 16 (27:57):
You know.

Speaker 13 (27:58):
They paid Fred Warner, they pay Nick Bosa, they paid
Trevarius Ward, they paid Trent Williams, they paid Deebo Samuel
and George Kittle, they paid Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 16 (28:07):
You know.

Speaker 13 (28:07):
So you know, if you're looking at it and you
know something's got to give over the next couple of years,
would that something be Well, we've got a surplus at
receiver right now. You know, we've got Deebo Samuel there
Kyle is really good at scouting and developing them.

Speaker 16 (28:24):
You know, is that were you know, we you know.

Speaker 13 (28:26):
Wind up trying to save a little bit from a
cash and cap standpoint, So you know, those would be
those would be the guys. I think, like right now,
I would look at and say, if there's somebody that's
going to be moved or talked about being moved in
the next couple of weeks that could have materially affect things.

Speaker 16 (28:41):
In the draft, those those would be the guys. You know.

Speaker 13 (28:45):
I think that those two guys, you know, again they're
not being shopped, but you know the Bengals and Niners
are certainly going any calls on them.

Speaker 17 (28:52):
Ab can can you put us up to speed on
what's going on in Dallas? I mean hearing about their
is the possibility of a CD Lamb hold out looming? Yeah,
Michael Parsons, They're they're complaining about him and too many
people would be glad to see him go. This sounds

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like horrible dysfunction if your two top players are in
the media for things like this.

Speaker 13 (29:25):
Well, it's Dallas, so I mean this function just means
that it's Thursday, right, Yeah, but I I Uh, you know,
I like the way I look at this. I think
it's similar to what we just talked about with Cincinnati,
where there's like a contractual bottle neck coming right, And
the difference is that, you know, where the Bengals have
one of those guys taken care of, the Cowboys have

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zero their three. Right, So it's Dak, it's CD, it's
Michaeh Parsons. And you can say we can wait for
a year on Michah Parsons to pay him.

Speaker 16 (29:56):
But is he going to be okay with that?

Speaker 15 (29:57):
Right?

Speaker 13 (29:58):
Like, I don't know, maybe he won't be, you know,
because of his value is what it is right now.
And Nick Bosa got thirty four million a year last year?
You know, does he want to strike while the iron's
hot and push for a deal now? You know obviously
Cebee lamb already waited a year, and you know if
you wait much longer, well, you know, justin Jefferson could
change the market at receiver, you know, and then how

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do you compensate Dak? You know, based on where the
market went last year, where Joe is making fifty five
million dollars a year, Now do you go.

Speaker 16 (30:29):
To sixty four? Do you go to fifty six.

Speaker 13 (30:31):
Or fifty seven million, or do you do you do
you wait this one out? There's a lot of big
picture questions for the Cowboys there at those positions, and
you know, it's a it's a credit to them like
that they've been able to identify.

Speaker 16 (30:44):
And and and and and.

Speaker 13 (30:46):
And have guys like that home grown on their roster.
But you know, in some of these cases, waiting an
extra year has sort of created this situation where, now,
how do you take care of all these guys at once?
I think is certainly going to be a talking point
over the next couple of months leading up to training camp.

Speaker 15 (31:05):
He's Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
It's LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan
Patrick and the guys here on FSR. I want to
ask you because I know obviously you're in and around
the area there, and I know you've been close to
the organization for a long time. In the Patriots, they're
sitting at three, what is the feeling as far as

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what they do at that spot, because if they don't
love the separation between the second and third best quarterbacks,
potentially going at that point is there a chance that
that's a team that could trade back because it feels
like they've got a lot to improve on the roster.

Speaker 13 (31:41):
Yes, I think they could trade back. I think it's
going to take a lot, though, So what's a lot?

Speaker 16 (31:48):
You know, like if you look.

Speaker 13 (31:49):
Like so, the Niners spent three first round picks to
move from twelve to three in twenty one. The Redskins
did the same. I'll move three first round picks to
go from six to two in twenty twelve. So I
think that's the starting point of any negotiation, especially for
the teams that are coming from a whole further down,

(32:10):
like the Vikings, say at eleven. The one thing the
Vikings have that those other teams didn't have is they've
got two first round picks this year, so they can offer,
you know, the Patriots eleven and twenty three, you're gonna
have you have certainty, you know where those picks are,
and those guys are going to be on your roster
this year, and then Adam another first round pick next year.
So do Patriots think about that? And beyond just that,

(32:34):
do the Patriots not only think about that? Do they
think about doing that trading down and then trading back
up if they really say, like JJ McCarthy and you know,
like they look at it and say, okay, we want
to we're going to move down and now we're going
to try to move back up to four or five.

Speaker 16 (32:49):
I think all of these things are.

Speaker 13 (32:50):
In play with New England, and you know, I think
it's especially if here's them and you look at it
and you have like May and MCA. You have May
and McCarthy close, Like if you think those two guys
and there's such vastly different prospects. But like if you
think that, if you think there's merit to taking either guy,
maybe you talk yourself into that. You know, where you
you trade down and back up. They're in a really

(33:13):
interesting spot because I think, I mean, we know Chicago
is sticking at one and taking Caleb, and I think
ninety nine percent the Commanders stick at too. I think
it'll be Jaden. I'm not ninety percent on that part
of it, but I'm almost certain they'll stay it too
and take a quarterback. So, you know, being being the
first team, you know, in that upper group that's willing

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to move the pick could give you a lot of
bargaining power.

Speaker 18 (33:37):
Albert, you know, it's been a pretty soft, easy interview
so far. I figured i'd just kind of throw you
a curve call. Any thoughts on Aaron Rodgers and you know,
the VP nomination with Robert F. Kennedy went through, or
some of the conspiracy theories.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I don'think you got force there out. You had any
thoughts on UFOs or Area fifty one.

Speaker 16 (33:55):
Well, I wasn't Monday.

Speaker 13 (33:57):
Monday was a Monday was a tough day for the Flatters,
wasn't it.

Speaker 15 (34:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 18 (34:06):
Justified the eclipse that right.

Speaker 16 (34:08):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 13 (34:09):
I'm not sure how you would explain that if you're
if you're if you're a flat earther. I mean, I
I don't know if Hollywood has like some sort of
curtains or something like that that you can put over
the sun.

Speaker 16 (34:19):
Yeah, so I like that that would be.

Speaker 13 (34:21):
My first thought, just just you know, talking to.

Speaker 16 (34:24):
What you guys we were talking about there.

Speaker 13 (34:26):
But uh, yeah, the the the Aaron Rodgers vice president
presidential campaign didn't didn't last very long. I will say
that there might have been some jets for people that
were quietly pleased to see it end, but I'm not
sure that they would ever admit that. I mean, you know,

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and and I and I would also say this, there
were some people in Green Bay who were entertained by it.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, yeah, it does.

Speaker 15 (34:54):
It does feel like there's a portion of the media,
whether you know they want to admit this or not,
that is sort of rooting for the Rogers experiment in
New York to fail. Like it does feel like that
that there's kind of a slanted view of him and
whether it's his political beliefs or yeah, no, no.

Speaker 13 (35:15):
No, that that absolutely exists, which is why I hate
that everybody has to draw everything on political lines now,
Like I'm just watching football, man, I don't need to, like, yeah,
I don't need to relate everything to who's on the
right or who's on the left when I'm watching a
football game, you know. But that's what we've come to,
I guess. And I don't want to turn this into
a deeper conversation, but I guess we already have since

(35:38):
I killed all the platter.

Speaker 16 (35:39):
If there's about three minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Well listen, it happens.

Speaker 15 (35:43):
But ab we appreciate a few minutes of your time
here on a Thursday morning. He is Albert Breer, Senior
NFL reporter also lead content strategist at the MMQB.

Speaker 7 (35:53):
Get him on X at Albert Breer. We'll do it
again next week.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Thanks Aby, all right, thanks guy.

Speaker 15 (35:58):
All Right, it is the Damn Pat Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you,
and right now we turn it over to Nick co
for some breaking news out of the.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
End, breaking news from Fox Sports.

Speaker 14 (36:15):
All right, all right, guys, This comes from the Twitter
account verified from OJ Simpson. Apparently OJ has passed away,
according to a post made by his family on his
verified Twitter account. It says, quote, on April tenth, which
was yesterday, our father, Orenthal James Simpson succumbed to his
battle with cancer. He was surrounded by his children and

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grandchildren during this time of transition. His family as that
you please respect their wishes for privacy and grace. Signed
the Simpson family. Haven't had any media reports of his
death yet, but this from OJ's personal verified Twitter account.

Speaker 15 (36:56):
Well, I don't this is I don't know how to
yeah react to this. It is a tricky one.

Speaker 18 (37:03):
Was it known that he was battling with cancer.

Speaker 15 (37:06):
I saw that somewhere that he was dealing with an illness,
but I hadn't heard anything about.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
It and some time.

Speaker 15 (37:12):
Yeah, so it's kind of obviously, we know, look playing career,
you know, one of the best ever. But then that
court sort of takes a step back when you consider
all the stuff that happened afterwards, the double murder and
many people feeling like he did it and got away
with it, just kind of was able to kind of
live and do his thing and play golf and play

(37:34):
fantasy football, and it just sort of we just sort
of looked past that and just kind of almost, I
don't want to say we accepted it. It just almost
felt like, how's this? How is he able to do
all of this with that in his past? And then
it's you know, you never want to see anybody pass away.
It's sad for the family, it's sad for the people
that had nothing to do with the incidents that took

(37:55):
place after his career. But this is surprising obviously that
this came out.

Speaker 18 (38:00):
And so yeah, I think the one thing that surprised
me is when you go through what he went through
post career in regards to what is accused of criminally
and I believe convicted of civilly at least in the
civil court of law, which are two different burdens of proved.
But that being said, you know, the fact that he
chose to be out in the open, you know, he
chose to be on the public eye, which you know,

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you realize there's going to be a lot of criticism
and a lot of people who you know, based on
the allegations, believed he was guilty, believe he got away
with it. So a lot of obviously mixed emotions, I'm
sure for people out there who aren't really sure how
to you know, view oj Simpson because it's hard to
remove you know, what his identity was built by, which

(38:44):
was you know, his football career with obviously what occurred afterwards.

Speaker 15 (38:47):
I mean I still remember where I was when that
trial was going on and it was announced that he
was not guilty, like people, I mean because talk about
an uproar in the country, like of people feeling the country.

Speaker 17 (39:01):
Got in a lot of way, yeah during that time.
But yeah, I mean, you know, people get old, they
die out here.

Speaker 7 (39:11):
All right there you go, well, well put here on.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
He definitely was, uh you know, and that'll be that
and that's that. It is The Dan Patrick Show.

Speaker 15 (39:24):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox and You're in for DP and the guys.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 5 (39:40):
Good morning to you, Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio App. Welcome in Hope. You're doing great. Dan Buyer's
alongside my man Jason Stewart, and uh, it is a Friday,
a golf Friday where we're well, you know, watching the

(40:00):
second round of the Masters, reacting the first round the Masters.
We still have some uh some o J. Simpson, I
guess to discuss whether or not he's worthy of the
discussion or not. And then we have a coaching hiring
of PayPal levels. Is that? Is that my PayPal levels?

(40:22):
Is that what I gotta say there?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 19 (40:28):
Hey, I'm great, Doug, I'm great. Masters first round wrapping up,
second round has already begune. So you've got this converging
of rounds at Augusta. So yeah, it's a great day.
It is a good day. It is a good day.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
White smoking Lexington.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
White smoking Lexington. So Mark Pope is going to be
the new head coach of Big Blue Nation. And if
you're sitting there going like, who in the hell is
Mark Pope Kentucky? People actually know who Mark Pope is
because he played at Kentucky, started his career at University
of Washington, transferred in and played for Rick Patino at Kentucky,

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part of one of their national championship teams under Patino.
And he's been the head coach at Utah Valley State
and BYU and just this year he took BYU to
the NCAA tournament. And yeah, it's so there's a lot

(41:26):
to unpack there, right, because you sit there going like,
wait a second. First, they were talking about Dan Hurley,
who just won back to back national titles. Then they
were talking about Billy Donovan who won back to back
national titles, was the last guy to do it before
Dan Hurley. They we're talking about Scott Drew who won
a national title. And as is a top twenty program.
You're in year out of Bailey, and now you talk

(41:46):
about Mark Pope, I've never heard of before. Again, I
when I say I've never I'm taking the average college
fan of some level. But I gotta say, I don't
hate it. I mean, I'm just are we really going
to do the whole circus where you have to have

(42:06):
been you have to have been in the SEC, just like,
let's just do the SEC musical chairs like Bruce Pearl
would would work. But also Bruce Pearl's probably like I
don't know, five years from not coaching anymore, and he
already is in the SEC. And you bring a guy
home and love the I love the people, Like look

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at the recruiting classes he's had, he's at BYU, and
people know I'm big in the Mormon community. I am.
I When I was in Connecticut, I literally had Mormons
on each side of my house and incredible neighbors and people,
so much so that I am Brother Doug to many people.

(42:51):
I'm being only half facetious because I really do have
a lot of Mormon friends, But like, look, we all
kind of know the deal. You have to sign honor code,
and they actually live up to that honor code in
terms of no sex, no drugs, no rock and roll
if you're in college. And he's done some unique things
at BYU, and this year they shot more threes than twos.

(43:13):
He's played in the NBA. I don't know, like we
make it out like you have to have you have
to have been some Carnival Barker in the past to
coach at Kentucky and maybe you could just coach because
you've played there and you know how to coach basketball.
We'll see I people even alone.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
How much is it?

Speaker 19 (43:30):
Because I think that there are a lot of schools
that feel I think there are a lot of schools
at a certain level that have a let's bring them
home guy, right, Like, it's not every school, but you
have you have that guy. Honestly, you may be it
for Oklahoma State, but that's a completely different story. The
point is is Kentucky seems to be this different animal

(43:51):
where bringing a guy home is not good enough. And
I don't know if it's a you know, third choice,
fourth choice, that sort of syndrome, but it sure doesn't
equate to any other basketball program in college basketball, because
Kentucky really isn't like any other program in college basketball.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
No, No, doesn't mean it's not a precursor for success.
You know, I mean Billy Gillespie when he went there,
I mean everyone myself included would have said Ben that
that'll work, right, But I also think that part of
it is the timing of how things went down. I
mean that many of these coaches had already turned down
like a different job, was its Arkanshaw job, or any

(44:33):
of these other jobs, the Louisville job, and so they
had already gone back to their athletic directors who had
promised them more money and promised them more nil and
or or some of them just have these ridiculous buyouts.
And maybe he's just sat there and go like, okay,
like Mick Cronin would be great, but I got to
pay a sixteen million dollar buyout, and why would I

(44:53):
can bring a Kentucky guy home? Obviously, I mean I
believe that every school is different, but for my school,
I thought bringing somebody home is is important because the
basketball coach, the football I mean the football coach, the
baseball coach, the now retiring wrestling coach John Smith, all
the lums. And I do think that in recruiting, your

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recruiting is telling a story right of of what your
four years or you know, one, two, three years will
look like. And when you're recruiting to your school, you're
telling your story. There is some definite risk because if
it doesn't work now all of a sudden, you cut
that part of your history or of the school's history

(45:41):
off if you lose right, But there's also there's also
a ton to be gained for when it's your guy.
There's a lot, maybe more loyalty, There's there's an ability
to translate what it's like to be a part of
Kentucky's big Blue nation. And by the way, as much
as we could sit here and go hey, he's not

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as accompass as X, Y and Z. If we're looking
at the five biggest jobs, right the two others on
the Eastern seaboard, right North Carolina and Duke. They're both
coached by alums. Both of them were never head coaches
before they got that job. So like you can be
critical of Mark Pope's hiring in comparison to if you

(46:24):
were going to hire Dan Hurley. But whatever you think
of what they're doing at North Carolina, haven't gone to
a final four two years ago, three years, three seasons ago, whatever.
This year. They were a one seed last year, obviously
disappointed to make the tournament. And at Duke, john Shire
is a lump and they'd had never coached before at

(46:45):
all as head coach. They've been assistant coaches, but it
never been head coached at all. And then of course
at UCLA BC Crooran, who you know, was a well
decorated head coach before he got that job, and then
Kansas was Bill selfon of course he was a well
decorated head coach. So there's no one perfect way to
to thread this thing.

Speaker 19 (47:06):
I do think Duke and North Carolina are a bit
unique into because of who their predecessors were. Yes, absolutely sure,
and that makes it makes it tricky. Kentucky is also
sitting there saying and and timing of it is in
a fact there because it's Kentucky. Not that the timing
is even off. It's different if a coach would leave

(47:27):
during the summer, but we're right out of the gates
of the final four. I just I think it's the
fact of they also couldn't get what they wanted, they
were turned down, or the fan base feels that they
were turned down by those other options.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
It's funny because it's like the fan base turning on
one of their own. And Mark Pope is the exact
reason that a lot of these coaches are like WHOA sure,
And it's like, uh, what what is it? Is it? Oh?

Speaker 12 (48:01):
Man?

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Is it Kingpin? Things? Kingpin? Where he's just.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Who are you calling? Psycho?

Speaker 15 (48:07):
You know?

Speaker 5 (48:08):
It's like, man, your fans are crazy. That's why coaching like,
what do you mean Our fans aren't crazy. We just
do want to hire some guy that we don't like.
He's like one, but he's one of your own.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
And he's one of your own.

Speaker 19 (48:21):
Who are you calling psycho from one of your one
of your best teams that you've ever had as a school.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
You know that, I know, I know market here, I
know how I know market. It's actually the funny. This
is actually one of my funnier stories. So when I
was working at CBS, there was a year where I
did thirteen UNLB games, you know, be home games thirteen.
I was living in southern California like and now, and
I was doing all those Mountain West games and they

(48:48):
were really good. Dave Rice was the head coach. By
the way, Dave just got a junior college head coaching
job after I think it's snow at uh what's called
that snow snow a snow junior call, I think, which
is in Salt Lake City. I believe that's the one.
He just got he got it to you, Dave, and
he was at cal Baptist. So I would take off,

(49:09):
and it got to the point where I was like, hey,
do you guys mind if I just like fly in
day of the game. They like you no problem. You know,
from where I lived is like ten minutes to Orange
County Airport, and Orange County Airport's a forty five minute flight,
and the games were at eight, and I would get
done at three, and I'd get in a flight at

(49:29):
like four, land at five, and just go directly to
Thomas and Mack, which is right off the runway. That's
where you and know V plays, And so without fail,
I would land and I would text Dave Rice, hey man,
do you mind if I come up to the office,
And usually I would go right up. Well, my one
of my numbers for Dave Rice I kept it was

(49:51):
Mark Pope's number because Dave had been at BYU as
an assistant coach and he gave Mark his number for
his school cell phone. So it's one of those where
I would just with that we out looking. I had
multiple Dave Rice numbers and type dating Dave Rice, and
all of a sudden, Mark Pope would start this conversation
with me as if he was Dave Rice, but he

(50:11):
was really Mark Pope. He's like, hey, Doug, it's actually
Mark Pope. Wrong number. So I had it like a
probably three month long text exchange going on with Pope.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Were you cat fished by Mark Pope?

Speaker 5 (50:23):
I was catfished by Mark Pope. That's exactly. He's a
great dude. He's very bright, very funny. I have I
know people that have worked for him that like him.
He's an immensely likable guy, which of course gives me
all the fear in the world that he's going to
Kentucky and those people will change him in some demonic figure.
But I don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 13 (50:43):
You know.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
And you can go and point out all these different
coaches you could have had or whatever, but the truth
is that you're kind of annoying. That that's how people
view you. I know, I'm kind of annoying right in
a different way, And like, if you're Kentucky, it's okay
to not be for everybody. Lots of coaches were not

(51:07):
people's first choice. Dana Altman was famously like not anybody's first, second, third, fourth,
fifth choice in Oregon. That guy is amazing. This is
one of those. We also will also do a thing
where we where we criticize the uh what's it called

(51:29):
when you hire a search firm. Everybody was criticized when
you hire a search firm because they don't know what
search firms actually do. Search rooms make it so that
you don't know who you're reaching out to, that all
the background work is already done so that when you
go and make a hire, like had they gone out
and just been negotiating with Mark Pope, it would have

(51:51):
been a much easier sale all of these jobs. I mean,
Louisville was open for everyone who was coming open forever,
and you get the sense who turned it down turned
it down. But if you don't know who turned it down,
it doesn't look nearly as bad. And that's the beauty
to the search firms like wow, and you could also

(52:11):
also pass it off as well. That's just the search
firm doing what the search firms does. Because Mark Pope
had turned around BYU basketball this year, he won at
Utah Valley status previously, which is like a college it's
basically in the shadow of BYU. But you know, and yeah,

(52:32):
I don't I don't hate it. I'd like to see
a guy get a chance at a higher level. And
it's the old question, if you can do that at BYU,
what can you do at Kentucky? You know? And the
criticism of John Caliperi was, well, you know that act
had kind of run tired. So this guy has a

(52:52):
completely different pitch spiel. I think a more You got
to develop some talent. Now, you've got to recruit out
of the portal. Now, you got to be more creative
now because the old days of lining up and trying
to get the five best high school products doesn't work.

(53:13):
Doesn't work. There's a myriad of reasons. We can do
a whole radio show, and I do think it'll get
back to closer to working the G League. Ignite went away.
If overtime Elite goes away, I think, and with all
the nil and kids reportedly making you know, seven figures,
I think more and more kids will go to and
stay in college. But when they stay in college again,

(53:35):
it makes it harder to win with younger players. So
doing the same thing over and over again, even though
it's been successful for Kentucky for a while, it doesn't
mean it's always going to work when the landscape has changed.
But I just think it's hilarious that Kentucky fans don't

(53:55):
understand how they are perceived and how that perception drives
a lot of people away. And the perfect example of
it is the massive overreaction to one of their own,
a Kentucky alum who just took his team to the
NCAA tournament, getting the job being met with It's kind

(54:15):
of like when you when you when you drink a
cough syrup when you're a kid. Oh JESU, what is that?

Speaker 19 (54:23):
I find it hilarious that they would rather have Bruce
Pearl and Rick Patino, not because of their coaching ability,
but because of what Patino had went to Louisville. Bruce
Pearl has been a thorn on the side of Kentucky,
whether he be at Tennessee or at Auburn or whatever.
They would rather have those options than to have one
of their own, who again won a.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
National championship with him almost thirty years ago.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Yeah, well, I love it. And people like to talk
about loyalty, and then when you bring in one of
your own, you know you're not. People are so disloyal
and don't even want to give it a chance. So
and then, of course you have the all the old,
the pope, the fact that he's the pope, and it's
the head coach of Kentucky. And I think you tweeted
out yesterday with the white smoke.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Yes, yes, six likes. I think it got well.

Speaker 5 (55:09):
I liked it. I don't know if I actually appreciate it.
I appreciate it even if I didn't like it.
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