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April 26, 2024 41 mins

Dan continues to react to the first round of the NFL Draft and determines how many rookie quarterbacks should be penciled in as Week 1 starters. Dan and the guys discuss NFL win totals and identify which lines may move after the draft. Former NFL OL Ross Tucker joins Dan to dive into the controversial picks of the first round. Plus, is the Lakers season over?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hour on this Meet Friday, more of your phone calls,
We'll talk to our good buddy Ross Tucker. He'll have
a couple of hot takes on what we saw last night,
winners and losers. We always love to hand out grades
right after the fact. By the way, I'm going to
give the Dan Ats the grade of an F. Okay,
you guys are going to get an F.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's weird. Now, do you do you want to guess
the topic?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Is this overall as people or is this specific to
an event?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
This is specific to an event. You're going to get
an F for this? Todd?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
You always got straight a's unless you were even when
you were cheating off people paper. Okay, does anybody want
to guess why you guys are getting the grade of F?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Todd?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Was that based on our takes last night to leading
up to the draft and not being far off from those?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
No? No, because those were hot takes and we knew that
it was kind of a stretch. Marvin the Quarter of
Nope had something that happened on the show today.

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Yeah, something happened today, and you're giving an effort. Today's show.

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Okay, Should I say, yeah, that you just had stuff
on your face and we didn't tell you to wipe
it off until after the segment? Yes, yes, yes, I
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I didn't notice it to you came out after the
segment because from my angle, your microphone hides your upper lip.
You could almost have a mustache.

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I wouldn't. Yeah, me too, Okay, well, yeah, I just
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got something on your upper lip. Yeh, see I told you,
And then Pauli goes, yeah, you got something up on

(02:00):
your I go everybody's telling me I have cinnamon glaze
on my upper lip.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
You didn't tell me during this show.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
I can't get an f for being the first one
to tell you that you had stuff. As soon as
I saw you and saw you had stuff in your lip,
I was like, hey, dude, you got stuff on your face.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I gave everybody an f that's yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
I thought you were accessorizing and show that you could
eat it or wear at this part of it because
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(04:18):
one thirty Eastern on NBC and Peacock. All right, let's
play the quarterback game. The week one starter? Who was
drafted last night?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
How many quarterbacks drafted last night? Start week one? Marvin,
I'm going to start with you.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I'm gonna say only one.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, Okay, Caleb Williams, PAULI, I would like to say one.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I'm going to say two. I think it will be
Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, that'll be Week one, Todd. Just Caleb, all right?
See O'Connor. I think just Caleb too.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
It won't be Michael Pennick's junior.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't think unless the injury, uh you know, stays
there with Kirk d Cousins, It's not gonna be jj McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Could it be bow Knicks?

Speaker 9 (05:25):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (05:25):
From what I saw on the Death Jart and from
what John Pinner said, he still thinks Jared Stidham is
his number one guy. Just to see how they can
change over the next several weeks and months. But you
think Stidham is good enough to be the.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well they got Zach Wilson too. Zach was a big
loser last night, you know, and all of a sudden
they're taking bow Nicks. The Raiders wanted Michael Pennix junior,
so they got a great tight end in brock Bauers.
But you still have Gardner Minshew and Aidan O'Connell. Uh.
Buffalo Bills still not sure exactly what their game plan is,

(05:57):
but they anytime Kansas City goes, hey, we get that pick,
what do you think Kansas City's going to do? They're
going to get a player who's going to hurt you
when you face the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
And they did. They got Xavier Worthy, fastest player in
the draft.

Speaker 8 (06:14):
Yes, Mark, are they the NFL's version of Jerry Wes
or Red Arback whenever they call, hey, Jerry, you're about
to get fleeced.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I can't help the Chiefs. I don't care what they're doing.
I can't help you.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
By the way, NFL over unders win totals paced off
last night, so I don't know if anybody really moved
the Broncos over under. According to DraftKings, it wins this year.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Todd. I'm going to say six and a half, all right,
five and a half.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
The Chiefs over under Marvin hap The Vikings with their
new quarterback JJ McCarthy, Seaton eight and a half, Paul
seven and a half, nine and a half, Marvin five
and a half, six and a half.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh face dancing right around it. The Falcons over under.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Paul oh nine and a half.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Bloop bloop.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
The Patriots they got their quarterback three and a half.
Uh No four and a half, Texans nine and a half,
So those are over under. I also have over under
for individuals over under passing yards for Caleb Williams, Paul,

(07:36):
he's a bear.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
So you got a cap it at four thousand in perpetuity,
uh twenty nine fifty.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's thirty five hundred. Wow.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
How about passing touchdowns? According to DraftKings, Caleb Williams Marvin.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Thirty four, Paul.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Uh, I don't think they've ever had thirty Oh like
an electric twenty four and a half.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Todd twenty two and a half, Seaton nineteen and one
a half, twenty three and a half, twenty three and
a half passing touchdowns JJ McCarthy over underpassing touchdown.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Paul eighteen and a half, Marvin sixteen and a half.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Todd fifteen and a half, Seaton seven and a half,
twenty and a half.

Speaker 9 (08:29):
That's not damn Dan Marino twenty and a half.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Langing it Jaden Daniels Who has more touchdown passes this year?
JJ McCarthy or Jaden Daniels Seaton.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Jaden uh twenty five and a half, nineteen and a half.

Speaker 10 (08:49):
That is it?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
You know what I don't understand he's got He's is
over under is less than JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
How about bo Nicks with the Broncos Todd.

Speaker 9 (09:00):
That's gonna be a seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Number, all right?

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Marvin nine and a half, Paul thirteen and a half,
Seaton ten and a half, eighteen and a half.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Wow, how about that?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Ooh, Nicks is so insulted bone Nicks eighteen and a half.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Zach Wilson doesn't have the best hair on the team.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Anymore, that smile. Though.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
There is one receiver, a rookie receiver. Over under is
one thousand yards. Marv Marvin, Marv Marvin Harrison, Okay, Marvin
Marvin yeah, Marvin Harrison Junior the third yep, right at
one thousand yards and you nailed that one.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah. Uh, you know what I don't understand. Yeah, yeah,
but that is fair, that is accurate.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
There are many many things that I do now understand
you're right about that.

Speaker 11 (09:54):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
I keep reading all of these different columns that are
grading the picks from last night, and almost universally they
have the Commanders at number two taking Jayden Daniels like
a B B plus. I don't understand why why is
that pick getting not panned? But you know, Drake May

(10:17):
go to the Patriots A plus, This is fantastic. This
is a great pick. Caleb Williams going to the A plus,
this is great, This is fantadic. Jaden Daniels, what is
the B minus?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Why?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I can ask Ross Tucker? Not quite sure unless who's
ever grading didn't like Jaden Daniels to begin with.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
I do like that Bill Belichick was like Drake May's
footwork as a mess or big bagging.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Tonight you have rounds two and three and Bucks, Pacers, Clippers, Mavericks, Timberwolf,
Sam the Suns. Last night it was the Nuggets going
up three to zero and the Lakers seventy six ers,
rough up the Knicks and Magic beat the Cavaliers, Lusciano
and Brooklyn and joining us on the program, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
What do you have for me?

Speaker 10 (11:03):
Hey, good morning cop with it to the copy, how
you great Miles and Priest King let us sun and
of course to the good fellas Todd Seed and Pauli
Paps aka Pauli the paddle. All right, guys, top, I
have to tell you, uh, that kid that you have
answering the phone literally has the most jovial disposition I
have ever encountered in my life on a daily basis.

(11:26):
So much so there's a little contagious today, some feeling old,
warm and fuzzy instead of lightning andrew up like a
Christmas tree today, I'm going to reverse course and I'm
going to give him. We'll be call here in Brooklyn
an educational misfah misfah being a good deed right well
with me? By that is when we give somebody a
pass who's been exhibiting, let's say, put see schmuckish behavior

(11:48):
and we chalk it up to the fact that maybe
it's unintentional and they just don't know no better. So
that's the MYSA part. Here's the educational Andrew. I like
you a lot, but let me tell you, sir. If
you go on a sports website and you write down
the information that they're talking about, and then you disseminated
in the same manner as the website, you have to
give credit to that website. If not, you're doing something

(12:10):
that's called plagiarizing. So from now on, I want your
calls to sound something like this, Hey, Dan and Dani's.
According to the New York Times, if lu channel gets
really mad at you, he's going to send PAULI to
give you the paddle.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
All right, Well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
We don't want to bang on Andrew in Washington, who
maybe plagiarized. He was reading from somebody else's publication.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
He's finding some trivia questions and posting on.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
The shod Yes, it's okay, it's all right, out a
code radic. Come on, it's a Friday, it's a meat Friday.
It's plain ives. Yes, I'm where you're lit hill I Okay,
you're good. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Doug in North Carolina, Good morning, Doug. What's on your
mind today?

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Well, Dan, I was calling and you touched on this
a second ago. But I was calling because I think
the star of the night was Bill Belichick. I was
flipping around and I saw him play with the draft board.
I've never seen that in all the years of watching
the NFL Draft. He finally got in the mind of
what a franchise was thinking. He would say, listen, if
you want to wide receiver, trade back. You don't know,

(13:10):
there's too many of them on the board. Trade with
the team that wants a offensive lineman because there's only
two of those guys. And he was explaining in a
way that I've never seen. And at one point he's
booking guests. Someone say, hey, are you on the phone
with Candy Crushed And he said, no, I'm trying to
book Sean Pete on the program. And it was just
it was so fritsy. You know, you may have some competition.

(13:33):
I thought Bill Belichick was incredible.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, well, he's not employed by any team, so he
is letting you here and see what actually happens. And
it was great insight to understanding what goes through a
coach or a GM an owner's mind on Draft Day.
I like that the Falcons front office had to explain
to Arthur Blank, what the hell just happened that. Hey, look,

(13:57):
mister Blank, we know that you're paying one hundred million
dollars to Kirk cousins, but Michael Pennix Junior is too
good to pass up. Wait wait, wait, what we're not
playing We're not playing two quarterbacks at the same time. No, no, no,
you'll be paying two quarterbacks. But hey, this one's a
bargain and down the road that's the future. Hmm okay, yeah, see.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
I just love the idea of being in the war room.
They phone it in like, oh yeah, stealing the draft.
Nobody saw this one coming. Guys, we did it. They're
all doing the handshap thing, high fiving, high fiving, and.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
All of a sudden, No, no, no, sir, let me explain.
Let me explain what we're thinking here. Okay, hold on,
wait is this a good thing?

Speaker 10 (14:37):
No?

Speaker 5 (14:37):
No, see what we did was we went up to
go get them so that then we save money late.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
See what good?

Speaker 5 (14:42):
I know, right, we have two right now, I know,
but that's what what would see what let's see?

Speaker 11 (14:46):
What we were.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Thinking was, uh, I like unravels right in front of it.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I like the falcons coach and gm or asked how
Kirk cousins took the news and they said, well, that's private.
You know his reaction, I mean it's it's private. But
if his reaction was man, that was unbelievable. What you
guys did, that's awesome. I'm sure that they would say,
you know who signed off on this, Kirk d it.
You know why they didn't want to tell you his

(15:11):
reaction because it wasn't a good reaction. It was like,
I'm stunned. That's the quote. Did Fritzy get draft picks
before they happened last night? Fritzy claims, what was the
time stamp when you found out that JJ McCarthy was
being selected by myself?

Speaker 4 (15:29):
The timestamp said nine to fourteen, And before I saw
JJ McCarthy picked on the screen, I got an email
that listed the top ten picks, obviously JJ McCarthy in
the ten spot on an email before I saw the
commissioner an act, I'd go to the.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
News Wow for an item investigation Credle.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
The motto of our news team is fast and wrong
is still fast.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Let's go to the news ring Pauli.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Dan Todd already gave you wrong information about his own claim.
The email from Premiere Radio Network the people we work with,
the nice people in the news service. They send out
emails all the time about sports news. It's great. They
send to everyone at the company. At nine eighteen and
twenty one seconds, they sent on an email that updated
the first ten picks of the draft. After every draft pick,
they would do the same. We went back and looked

(16:16):
at a few different sources and JJ McCarthy was drafted
between nine to fifteen and nine sixteen pm Eastern. Uh
And so I would.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Say, but Todd got it at nine fourteen.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Todd got it.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
I misspoke. I said nine to eighteen the first time,
but I did this. Timestep said nine.

Speaker 9 (16:35):
But regardless, that's how I experienced it. I don't know
why that is.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
And if I'm wrong, the life will go on for
all of us somehow, and it's us.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Did this I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I don't know how dramatic. You're the one if I have.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You came in and said, hey, I got the pick
before you know, everybody else did.

Speaker 9 (16:53):
I don't know if I said it like guess what
I knew before everybody. I'm the man. I just I
just said that. I say it in the bragg of
Josie Away I think.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
You said it like you were claiming that something was
a miss, something was wrong, right.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
That's a difference between guess what I knew before all
you guys who the pick was, which it was.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Definitely not the tone Oh yeah, No you didn't say
like ha ha, I knew you guys, but you were like,
I don't know what was going on, but like somehow
I got an email before the pick was even set onto.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
The strange that I got this email and they had
They hadn't said JJ McCarthy yet.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, unless the timestamps are.

Speaker 9 (17:22):
Wrong, I'm going by the time stamp on my phone.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Now, I think it's possible to Todd either pauses TV
or did something which caused the draft to be delayed
on his TV. And let's say he did well, that
would be the only thing that makes sense to me,
because did.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
You pause the draft on your tube?

Speaker 9 (17:37):
Not that I'm aware of it. The best way I
could say, I don't think I even know how to
do the pawns.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
On my What else?

Speaker 3 (17:42):
I did check with a producer of NFL network, and
I said, how much of a delay is it before
the commissioner announces something like on property in Detroit it
gets to the NFL network and gets to our TVs. He's, well,
that's vague, he goes, but it could be as much
as forty five to sixty seconds, whether what the commissioner
is saying and us hearing at home, depending on the

(18:03):
type of broadcast, the type of feed. But I said,
could it be two minutes? He goes, It can't be
two minutes, okay, because it could be like forty seconds.
Thank you. Just good journalism right there.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
It is.

Speaker 11 (18:16):
It is.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's bad journalism on Todd's part too.

Speaker 9 (18:21):
I'm just telling you how I experienced it.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I don't know why that was. I'm not accusing anybody
of anything. I'm not like beating out rapoport.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Accusing somebody of something, Todd, because you brought it up and.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
So it's less an accusation more of it. That's odd,
it says JJ McCarthy on my email. And they haven't
made the tenth pick yet.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
The best part is that something must be wrong, something
must be going on. What could it have possibly been
because it wasn't me. I'm not the one getting this weird.

Speaker 9 (18:46):
I honestly don't think I know how to we need to.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
Screw We didn't do anything. It has to be somebody
else has to be like, it could be you, Todd.
And you know what, I'm not sure how this is Todd.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
It is you. You made the mistake.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
There was an observation based on what I was watching
at the time.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
You made a mistake. Let's take a break.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Ross Tucker said to John, are you gonna be okay
for the final forty minutes of the show to think
I'll be okay, I'm.

Speaker 9 (19:15):
Surprised we're making such a huge deal out of it.
I know that's what we do. But like you, mad,
I didn't say it.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Like guess what, guys, I knew all the picks before.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
My bad. We can't say anything negative about Todd.

Speaker 9 (19:30):
It's not negative. So was it observation not an accusation?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
I'll play.

Speaker 10 (19:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I just got an email with all Ross Tucker's answers
to your questions coming up for the next segment.

Speaker 9 (19:38):
He does have that. I don't know how that's possible.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know what, I got today's picks for the round two.
They were just sent to me.

Speaker 9 (19:46):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Look at that. That's unbelievable.

Speaker 9 (19:49):
I got round three.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, Ross Tucker joins us. Next, thanks for listening to
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Speaker 2 (20:56):
Our good buddy Ross Tucker joining us in a moment,
I did out glout and inspect the Tragger grills just
to make sure that everything looked on the up and
up pretzel bun sliders, many pretzel dogs and baked pretzel
bites and beerd cheese dip. This is how it sounded
last night when the draft all of a sudden changed.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Here's the commissioner, we're.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
The eighth picks in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

Speaker 13 (21:24):
The l NFL can select Michael Pennix, junior quarterback Washington.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
You just hear the laughter there. They're like, whoa, at
least it's not us. Yeah, just the shock value there.
And I kept going, wait, there has to be a trade.
Did they take somebody to maybe be able to trade
to somebody, And then we realized nope, they were taking
Michael Pennix, junior third. He's Ross Tucker, our good buddy

(21:54):
Westwood one CBS Sports, NFL college football analyst and host
of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Give me some logic
behind what the Falcons did last night?

Speaker 14 (22:04):
Well, I would say Dan went in doubt in the NFL,
and my experience look for the decision makers to make
decisions that they believe is in their best interest for
their job security end or job preservation. And I believe
at some point the Falcons GM Terry Fontineau and the

(22:25):
head coach Raheem Morris, we're talking and they realized, hey,
we're probably going to be pretty good the next couple
years with Kirk Cousins. The NFC South's not that great.
We will be in the mix, maybe we'll win the division,
be in the playoffs. But if we get a guy
like Pennix now, then year three, maybe year four, we

(22:48):
have a succession plan in place to the point where
Arthur Blank isn't going to fire them before Pennix at
least has one year, maybe even two. So I think
those guys, essentially Dan bought themselves a four year runway,
maybe even five, but a four year runway with a

(23:09):
couple of years of Cousins, probably a couple of years
of Pennix, and I think that's a big reason.

Speaker 11 (23:15):
Why they did what they did.

Speaker 14 (23:16):
Frankly, I think it's selfish, and this is coming from
a former players perspective. I think it's borderline disrespectful to
guys like Jake Matthews at left tackle, Grady Jarrett defensive time,
even Kirk Cousins, who probably won't even still be on
the team and playing by the time Pennix plays it

(23:37):
really really bothers me.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, but Arthur Blank has to go hold on, explain
this to me. And I would imagine he would have
veto power in the war room because if you said
to me, maybe just signed this guy for one hundred million,
and granted we shouldn't. He's thirty five coming off a
chilly surgery, and we're gonna fall in love with Michael

(24:00):
Pennocks junior and we're going to take him and we
need defense, and now we can be that surprise team.
Maybe we could be the Detroit Lions. Maybe we're that
next team to step up. I just can't imagine that
they convinced Arthur Blank, you know, hey, this is the
right guy for three years down the road.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
We don't know if Arthur Blank's going to be alive
in three years. He's eighty one. Like I just.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
From every angle, as much as I liked Pennix, I
didn't like him that much and I don't want him
to sit for three years.

Speaker 14 (24:36):
Well and Dan at a minimum, Okay, even if you
liked the move, it is an over allocation of resources
in the same offseason. You know, they say they like
the Green Bay Packer model. Well, first of all, the
Green Bay Packers already had their franchise quarterbacks. They didn't

(24:57):
just sign him the four year deals and all. So
those guys Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love fell to them
in the twenties, which, by the way, eviscerates the falcons
whole argument that you can only get these guys in
the top ten and we're not gonna be drafting here
and you gotta get them now. First of all, Pennix
was the fourth quarterback to go off the board. Okay,

(25:19):
let's not act like this was Jayden Daniels or Kayleb Williams.
He was the fourth guy off the board, and the
Packers were able to get franchise quarterbacks in the twenties
to do it the same. Then they gave Kirk Cousins
a no trade clause, Like, where is the foresight? If
you liked Pennix this much and you signed Cousins the

(25:41):
second week of March, you know, if you thought there
was any chance that you would draft Pennix at eight,
you don't give Kirk Cousins that contract and a no
trade clause so that you can't even get any recruitment
of the assets when you move on from Cousins. He's
not gonna let you trade it. I mean like, no, nope, veto, Nope,
You're gonna have to cut cousins and give him the

(26:03):
ten million dollars that's still guaranteed in twenty twenty six.
I think it's one of the worst moves I've seen
in a long time. I know some Falcons fans feel like, hey,
it means we're gonna be good for the next ten
to twelve years. Yeah, well maybe, but Michael Pennix might stink.
And not only that, there were a bunch of teams
that wanted to trade up to get him, like the Saints,

(26:25):
like the Raiders. Reportedly, the Falcons could have traded down
still gotten the number one defensive player in the draft,
whoever they thought that was, and gotten other assets and
cemented themselves as the clear favorite in the NFC South
to actually get to the playoffs for the first time

(26:46):
in seven years since twenty seventeen and host a home
playoff game. But no, they didn't want to do that.
They're worried about their own job. I think it's a
selfish move by the GM and head coach.

Speaker 11 (26:58):
That's my read on it. From a player's perspective.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
What else bothered you last night.

Speaker 14 (27:05):
I don't know that anything else really bothered me. I
guess the thing that surprised me, and may be surprised
isn't the right word. But I've had so many guys
come on my show Dan, the Rawstucker Football Podcast, just
like you have on your show, right, And I'm telling you,
the only unanimity, the only consensus, was what all the

(27:26):
quarterback gurus I spoke to said about Jayden Daniels and
Drake May. Every guy, Greg Cosell, Phil Simms, Chase.

Speaker 11 (27:35):
Daniel, they all love Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 14 (27:38):
He's the best pure progression reader of the group. He's
the best pure pocket pass we know about him as
a runner.

Speaker 11 (27:45):
Dan. None of them said positive things about Drake May.

Speaker 14 (27:50):
I mean he was called raw Phil Simms, that his
tape was disappointing, misses too many layups, doesn't have the
throw to throw accuracy.

Speaker 11 (27:59):
Just wild for me. I don't pretend to be a
quarterback guru.

Speaker 14 (28:02):
I don't sit there and watch five games and talk
about the guy's footwork. But I have all these guys
come on my show. They all loved Jaden Daniels. They
all had major concerns about Drake May. I just think
it's very interesting, kind of wild that those guys went
back to back. Yeah, given you know the feedback I
had gotten on both players.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, we had somebody from Pro Football Focus, Trevor Sikima,
and he said, look, I went back and looked at
throws by Jade and Daniels. He goes, he's the quarterback
I have more questions about. He said, he doesn't throw
it over the middle, and the throws that he was
really good at in college are going to be really
hard to complete a high percentage.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
And he said, so, I've got real concerns.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
About him, which I found interesting. Tim Hasselbeck, the former quarterback,
he loved Drake May loved and you know from the
last couple of months here Orlovsky loved him. It just
feels like there's people who were in your camp and
realize that, Okay, maybe you are raw, but you have

(29:05):
that potential to be something a little little more special.
My problem with this is I would rather go to
Washington than I would New England because at least I
have some offensive weapons. That's why Caleb Williams will succeed.
I mean, they already have pieces in place. You get
a doneesa, which I go. I said to Paulie, I go,

(29:26):
you guys are contenders. The Bears are contenders after last night.
But I can't say that about New England with I
wouldn't have taken a quarterback there, no matter how much
I liked him.

Speaker 14 (29:38):
You know what's so funny to me about that, Dan,
The people that support Drake may right, and again I
don't pretend to be a quarterback guy. But the people
that support him say, well, he didn't have any receivers
last year in North Carolina. The offensive line wasn't good.

Speaker 11 (29:54):
Now you're going to send me to the Patriots. I mean,
have you seen the Patriots?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Ros He could he could have stayed another year wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, stay at North Carolina another year instead of going
to New England.

Speaker 11 (30:07):
Yeah. I mean that's not a good fit.

Speaker 14 (30:09):
That's not that's maybe maybe the thought process is he's
used to having bad receivers in a bad old line.

Speaker 11 (30:14):
Maybe that's why they do him.

Speaker 14 (30:16):
And I hear these Josh Allen comparisons, I'm like, Okay,
well he's not six five, two fifty. He's not He
doesn't run over people like Josh Allen. He doesn't have
Josh Allen is like the strongest arm I've ever seen,
you know, Like, I don't like the Josh Allen comparisons
for Drake may Just because a guy struggles in some areas,
don't tell me he's Josh Allen. You know how many

(30:37):
guys have really improved like Josh Allen did? Josh Allen
Jalen Hurts. Those are the two guys I can really
think of right now that greatly improved from college and
during their NFL career in terms of throwing the ball
in accuracy.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
The Giants had the opportunity to take their quarterback now.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I was told that they wanted Drake may or they
or they were going to stay put and then they
were going to take a wide receiver. I didn't buy
into the JJ McCarthy we're going one through four. Didn't
buy it. Minnesota got him and that's a good situation
for him. So the Giants passed on a quarterback. Your

(31:18):
reaction was, what job security?

Speaker 14 (31:21):
Yeah, I mean, it just goes back to the same
thing I was talking about with the Falcons. I think
Joe Shane, the GM, Brian Dave all the head coach.
They know last year was a disaster. They know they
have to win this year. Do you have a better
chance to win with JJ McCarthy as a rookie and
all these pedestrian receivers they have, or can you hope

(31:44):
that Jones comes back from the injury plays like he
did two years ago and now that you actually give
him a legit explosive receiver. I mean elite Neighbors is
a dude. You watch him, He is fun to watch.
This is what's their best chance to have a winning season,
to maybe make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Wait, wait, wait for Gaball and Joe. Let'still have those jobs. No,
let me use your logic. If I wanted to keep
my job longer, I would have taken JJ McCarthy because
now you're going to get me the opportunity to reset
and now I get three or four more years. That's
what you just said. The Falcons are doing. They're ensuring
you get to keep your job because you just drafted

(32:25):
Michael Pennix. So why wouldn't the Giants if the you know,
the coach and GM want to hold their job, you
take the quarterback of the future.

Speaker 14 (32:33):
Well, I think you would have to go well for
the Giants, otherwise they would move on from them, because
they would say, you gave Daniel Jones all that money
and then you moved on from him after a year
and the rookie quarterback's not looking real promising.

Speaker 11 (32:47):
I think the difference.

Speaker 14 (32:49):
And by the way, the Falcons management, they might only
get one year with Pennix, so they might have only
bought themselves for sure three years because Cousins has one
hundred million guaranteed that Cousins is their quarterback the next
two years barring injury. Although even that part of it
bothers me. Dad, what he's a top ten pick. What's

(33:09):
gonna happen when Cousins throws three picks on the radio
in Atlanta, They're gonna say, maybe it's time to put
the kid in there. Maybe they should put Pannix in there.
They set themselves up for a terrible, terrible situation.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Are you okay?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I think somebody, did you guys say something negative about
Ross with my retirement and if Ross was going to
put his name in the hat and Jacob, you know.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
His name was thrown around the room and someone said something.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Who said something? Ritzy, Fritzy? Did you say something negative
about Ross Tucker? LEST think so?

Speaker 11 (33:44):
Yes, he did. Fritzy said I would spike your drink.

Speaker 9 (33:47):
I did say that.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
I said that in jest, but I did in fact
say that he'd be most likely to try to.

Speaker 9 (33:54):
End things for you.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
So I didn't take it in jest.

Speaker 9 (33:57):
It was meant to be Tigue.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Would not move that.

Speaker 11 (34:02):
It really hurt.

Speaker 9 (34:03):
I apologize.

Speaker 11 (34:04):
I was supposed to be a jompy ever since I
saw the clip.

Speaker 9 (34:07):
Don't do that. You know I'm sensitive and that was
totally a joke.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Although, no, it's hurt. He's sensitive.

Speaker 11 (34:13):
My mom was crying about it.

Speaker 9 (34:15):
It hurts in mother's days. I was coming up. That
was just very bad time.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
And if if Ross were gonna do something to take
you on, it wouldn't be poisoned, be something physical, a
pile drive, you ddt something like that.

Speaker 14 (34:25):
No, but if you I would poison the spicy mustard
on Meat Friday.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
I take us all out in one fell swoop down.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
So you do want to put your name in the
hat with Chris Mannix, Uh, you know publicly?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I mean, now's now, it's your time.

Speaker 11 (34:40):
Three and a half years from now sounds like a
long time.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oh hey, listen, just just tell that to the falcons
and us.

Speaker 14 (34:51):
Hey, I will say this, Dan, and you know this
because I've told you this. There's nothing more. My two
favorite things to do in all of my all media
our call game and fill in for you my two
favorite things by far. They're just so fun. It's it's
an incredibly good time. So the chance to do that

(35:12):
every day, that would be that would be insane.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Someday, All right, in three and a half years, what
happens first?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Though?

Speaker 11 (35:19):
Am I? Can I be your Michael Pennix junior?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Dan, you would be yes, You'd wait for three and
a half years. Thank you, Ross, of course, great talking
with you guys. That's Ross Tucker got his own football
podcast Westwood one, CBS Sports. All right, ooh, I'm looking
outside the trigger grills. Here we go, take a break
back after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick

(35:44):
Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday
morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the
iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the
Peacock app. Here we go, closing up shop. Everybody but
Fritzie gets to sing.

Speaker 9 (36:04):
Ever since I was a time they bought.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Just got word that the dreamy Ryan Reynolds will join
us next week and Rob mclhaney always Sonny in Philadelphia.
They of course are the owners of Wrexham and season
two of Wrexham. So Ryan Reynolds and Rob mclhaney said
to join us. If you've been watching on Peacock, we

(36:29):
had Ricky Carmichael stopped by the studio yesterday. He'll be
on the call for Saturday super Cross race in Philadelphia
on NBC and Peacock and he's the legend fifteen time
AMA champ. It was a lot of fun. Tune into
NBC in Peacock Saturday, three Eastern at Lincoln Financial Field
for the twenty twenty four super Cross season. Let me

(36:52):
see Scott in Texas. Scott, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 10 (36:56):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (36:57):
Dan, Love the show and honored to be a part
of the Thank you, sir. Yeah, congratulations to the guy
from the Atlanta Journal he correctly accurately picked you know, Bonick.
Yeah yeah, But I want to figuratively send love to
legendary draft guru Jimmy Jimmerson who's literally accurately predicted the
entire first round that a QB would be picked and

(37:18):
that some teams would move up, and some would move down,
and some would actually just stay where they were at.
Jimmy Jimmerson has yet to be wrong that it's impressive.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
So thank you, Scott.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yes, Jimmy Jimmerson had a good day one and he
joins us now, Jimmy, well done last night.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Thank you, thank you. Ded.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
I've been working years to just you know, cultivate sources, relationships.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's really what draft day is all about.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Relationships you know you have with certain GM's team owners, coaches.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's a process.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Okay, congratulations, good luck tonight, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
My round two mock draft is updating now. Okay. Judge
in Arizona, Hi, Judge, good.

Speaker 13 (37:56):
Morning, dance last time, long time, and uh with three
two hundred pounds thirty nine US verticals fifty years ago,
no shot, no handles, just rebound in defense, a couple
of points. As far as the lands concerned, nobody really
wants to say this, but that pick was insurance.

Speaker 10 (38:15):
Cousins won't last three years.

Speaker 13 (38:17):
He's at that age where the once that Achilles goes,
everything else is gonna go number two.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Well, then why do you sign him?

Speaker 10 (38:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (38:25):
I know it's crazy to sign him. I don't know
why they did. Okay, as far as the Lakers are concerned.
You know, last night, if you look at the stats,
and this may be a stat of the day, I
don't know. Both teams scored forty four field goals. Both
both teams scored far as three pointers. The difference was
in free throws, in that Denver made seven more than

(38:48):
the Lakers. The big difference was rebounds fifty one to
thirty eight. And I think that's where age and side
comes to matter, because Denner's got a really big team.
Even though you got a d in in Lebron, they
just keep up with those guys.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Well you have Ad that's it, Porter and Gordon helping
out Joker, and they're really good with offensive rebounding, and
offensive rebounding comes down to effort. Defensive rebounding, it just
falls right there in front of you. Offensive rebounding, you
got to go and get it. This day in sports history, Paulie.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Gotta be careful. I read this one and nineteen forty
one in Oregon was played for the first time at
a baseball stadium in Chicago, Illinois. The nineteen sixty four
the Boston Celtics won they're sixth straight NBA title. They
went two more before that streak came to an end,
and two years later rad Auerbroch retired as the head
coach of the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Carson Palmer taken number one overall on this date in
two thousand and three, and the Colts selected John Elway
with the first pick in the draft in nineteen eighty three.
That lasted it did one of the great Colts quarterbacks
of all time, John Alway. Final results of the poll
question Seaton, Yeah, we got two of them going, Dan,

(40:01):
we have best non quarterback pick made last night in
the first ten picks, Okay, Marvin Harrison Junior from the Cardinals,
Joe going to the Chargers, Roma Dunde going to the Bears.
It is very very close between all three, but Marvin
Harrison Junior slightly edging it out. I think people like

(40:22):
him because you just put him in and he's a boss.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yes, right away, he's you ready to go. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
The other one that we have is people, when using
the word literally knowingly use it wrong or don't know
how to use it. Seventy seven percent say they don't
know how to use it, rather than purposely using it wrong.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
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A lot of these things will be sold out Saturday.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Morning, Danpatrick dot com Todd would you learn today?

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Ross Tucker thinks the Falcons selected Pennix at eight because
the head coach and GM was selfishly worried about their
job security beyond a couple of years.

Speaker 11 (41:07):
With Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Raheem Morris just got there, Uh, Seaton, would you learn
Falcons know exactly what they're not doing?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Marvin Rechison said Detroit was late Paul.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Ross naming the hat.

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