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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Thursday, Dan and the Dants Dan Patrick Show
down to Danette. But we've gained a backroom guy. Dylan
is here fresh from the Gambling podcast. He's sitting in
for Seaton, who's out today and tomorrow. But Fritzie's here
of course, Marvin Paul yours truly in the backroom guys
as well. Phone calls each seven to seven to three
DP show. It's round two coming up tonight, and I
(00:28):
have a homework assignment for one of the dan nests. Now,
Fritzie said he only watched the first ten picks. I'm
going to have to ask you to watch the second round?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Can do that?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Did anybody watch less than ten picks last night? Okay, Todd,
it's your homework assignment.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
My daughter's back from school. Were supposed to watch Love.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
What is it called Love?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Islanve Island Marathon.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
This is a work assignment, ton This isn't for pleasure.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
This is what that would be very painful. That's like
a punishment though. That's not an assignment though.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Are you refusing your assignment?
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Sir?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
No, sir, okay, that's that's asking a.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Lot, though, How can I confirm that you're watching the
second round of the draft?
Speaker 6 (01:13):
I will take a random picture, okay, and then you'll
have to assume that I was watching all of it.
And I'll just take one moment in time and lie
and say that I watched the whole thing.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
That's exactly how that'll work.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm gonna just go on the honor system. I'm gonna
go on the honor system.
Speaker 7 (01:27):
You're on it.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You'll quiz me tomorrow. Remember, I'm me have forty third pick?
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Who is that?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Like?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
A hold on?
Speaker 7 (01:32):
Let me go go google.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
That with I know Marvin all watch. I know you'll
watch the entire second round. Oh okay, I saw my
guys get drafted last night. Liam McNeely and hold the
Husky so in my favorite Danny Wolf. Yeah, man, you
had a crush on Danny Wolf all year.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
DP.
Speaker 8 (01:54):
I used to tell you we did watch a random
Michigan game against Marquette, Like, did you watch it?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You take and all the white guys from me? That
was Jack and all the white guys here. You're gonna
take Cooper flag too, aren't you. No, you guys can
have Connipple.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
You guys can keep I'm just gonna keep Liam and Danny.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Liam and Danny get over here, my our boys.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
I'm old enough to be their dads too, So come on.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Kids, let's see poll question for the final hour. Dylan
do something today trying.
Speaker 9 (02:30):
Dan, Well, should the NBA switch from hats to visors?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, I I thought advisor at least worked with their hair.
The hat doesn't. The hat's stupid. And if you want
to do a sash or maybe a you know, a
large chain and ascott. No, I don't want that. I
(02:56):
just need something that it's easy to put on. You
can you can move some product, because that's what the
NBA is doing that.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Like put on a hat. Now they're going to buy
the hat Like okay, yes, why don't you just take.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
It under advisor Mint and you'll figure it out maybe
enough to give an answer right now. There would be
an opportunity to hit that thing you got there.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I think it's under advisement, not advisor Mint Advisor.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
We're talking about advisors.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
There a little play on you got me Blue Blue.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Gave you an opportunity with the gong, Marie, do you
want to go for no?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
No, no, no no, do you want the gong? Like,
do you want to be gong?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
I don't want to be gone, but I know there'll
be a number of times as we move along, well deserved.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
As I have in the past.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, absolutely, But the final hour of the program we'll
have a poll question. We'll get to more phone calls
as well. The commissioner, Adam Silver, he was talking about
the epidemic now that's my word, but uh, the growing
concern about Achilles' tears, and had this to say, we are.
Speaker 10 (03:57):
Looking at it. And in fact, we had already into
panel of experts before Tyresee's most recent Achilles rupture. So
we had seven this year. We had zero last year
under the exact same circumstances, and the most we've ever
had in a season is for NFL has had a
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rational of Achilles issues as well, so the purpose of
convening those experts is to try to figure out what's
going on. You know, it's interesting when we look back
at the last ten years, the majority of the Achilles
injuries have happened before the All Star break, so it's
not clear it's the number of games. And as you know,
modern NBA players, even when they're not playing games, sometimes
in the summer they're working harder than they are during
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the season when they're playing three games a week. They're
often playing every day, all.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Right, So that's the commissioner, and they've been working on
this for a little while. Got some data on this
as well. I think artificial intelligence is being used or
is going to be used to go back and look
at all of the highlights all of the games and
try to single out if they're there's one thing that
led to another. At least that's what I read. But
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it's I don't think it's a coincidence. I don't think
it's load management, But then what is it? And I
think that's really the biggest key here to understand moving forward.
How are you proactive? How do you protect? Is there
something you can wear?
Speaker 11 (05:26):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I think this is kind of a I don't know,
let's explore, let's question. Let's try because these guys are
younger getting this. It used to be like Isaiah Thomas
at the end of his career, or you know, Durant
was in his thirties when it happened. But you got
Tyre's Halliburton and Jason Tatum. You know, Dame is older. Okay,
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so you can use Aaron Rodgers older when it happened
to him, I understand that, but then you got the
younger guys as well.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I thought there was a ground swell.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And I have a very good friend and he works
for a team, and during the draft, you know, we're
kind of texting back and forth, especially after the Pelicans
and the Hawks, like I don't I have still I
don't know what happened there. I'm trying to understand the
logic because the Pelicans sent the twenty third pick and
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their twenty twenty six first round pick to move up
ten spots to take Derek Queen of Maryland. Okay, you know,
good player, good team. I don't think New Orleans is
going to be in the playoffs. There's a chance that
could be a top five pick, maybe number one. Why
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trying to understand that? Yes, Marvin, No, I'm with you completely.
I just don't understand, like what's their playing. There's certain
NBA teams where you don't even know what they're playing is.
And I wonder about, you know, Zion long term, like
how much longer are they going to put up with him?
Or he wants to stay there? Don't I don't know
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like this feels like that's make or break year for him.
They get rid of c. J. McCollum, they bring in
Jordan Poole, Like you just kind of look at the
roster and you know they got Joe Dumar's running things there.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Great respect for Joe.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
But.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm not giving up next year's unprotected first round draft
pick to go up ten spots. Derek Queen's not a superstar.
It's not even one of those. Man in a couple
of years, that guy is going to be incredible. You know,
take a flyer on this guy. He might develop into something.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I just one of those where you go, I don't
get it, don't get it.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Yes, is there anybody in the draft that you may
be watched in college? You think to yourself, Man, if
he puts it all together, he can be something special.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Cooper Flag.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
And it's hard because these guys aren't in college long
enough for us to even know these guys.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, and that's what the draft served a purpose for.
You tuned in and you go, Okay, you might have
saw somebody in March Madness, maybe you saw them in
a Maui Invitational. Whatever it is, there's a glimpse there,
but for the most part, you know, you may not know.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And then Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Nets drafted four guards, three point guards. Two guys are
from ones from Israel and once from maybe France, Like
you don't even know who they are. But it's sort
of the introductory offer to hey, you want to follow
this team next year, Brooklyn Net. And with Brooklyn, I'm
(08:48):
fine with what they did. Maybe you find two players
out of the five you drafted who you can build with.
Maybe you can use them as assets to trade. But
my NBA fan said, a friend I should say, said
this whole Jalen Brown topic he felt or feels his
(09:09):
real but what are you giving up to get Jalen Brown?
Like he feels like this was a real topic last night,
that Jalen Brown. People are kicking the tires, just wondering, Okay,
what's it going to be? Because there was talk Derek
White was going to be moved last night. It just
feels like the Celtics are I don't know if it's
(09:30):
a clearance sale, but it's certainly going to be. We're
going to have a reset after this next season. You know,
you get rid of Porzingis and Drew Holliday and I
know a lot of that is, you know, second Apron
and salary cap. I understand all that, But the Jalen Brown,
who's got enough? And who who would want to go
(09:50):
get Jalen Brown? Could the Hawks put something together? Could
the Hawks put something together? Could San Antonio put something together?
And those were the two teams that I thought of
last night. You got three guards there in San Antonio.
Imagine Jalen Brown with that team like that, That to
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me could be a really really fun, dangerous team.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Now what do you give up? That's the key?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And Atlanta as well, Like Atlanta is going to be
in the mix with the playoffs next year. If it
feels like they got a couple of really nice young players.
I'm assuming they're going to keep Trey Young. Uh Recheoche
I thought played pretty well as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Quinn Snyder's done a nice job there.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
Yes, Marvin, But if you're the Celtics, especially with Jason
Tatum out, you you'd be willing to give up Jalen Brown.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
No, but I don't know where you know, what is
their short term philosophy here or game plan? Now, what's
it going to be in three years? You're spending a
lot of money. They're clearing a lot of money, and
I just wonder, and I don't know what Tatum is
going to be like when he comes back. We just
assume that they all bounce back and they're all great
(11:11):
after these kind of injuries and surgeries. I don't know.
And how long have we been saying, man, they should
break up those two. If they didn't win the title
last year, they probably would have broken them up to say, yeah,
you know, we got to break them up. Jalen Brown
is equal footing with Jason Tatum. And you'll find NBA
executives who like Brown because he's different. He's more aggressive,
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he's not afraid of the moment. Not to say that
Tatum isn't great and all those wonderful things there. I'm
just going by what I was told. They like his approach,
his mental toughness whatever that means.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
Yes, marm, But isn't that an even bigger reason to
keep Jalen Brown? If Jason Tatum you don't know what
he's going to be like when he returns.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well, you can't trade him, But like, what do you want?
Do you want to be in middle of the pack,
which is no man's land? But then I don't want
to just take a year off, or you know, maybe
something that probably forces us to take a couple of
years off. Maybe it's just one year, like, Okay, it's
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going to be a bad year. We'll do the best
we can. Tatum comes back and then we start to
build out again.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It just felt like, or feels like the Jalen Brown
could be event. I feel like he's more available than you.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Honest.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Now, once again, this is somebody who works for an
NBA team, And I said what about Giannis? And he said,
I don't think he's going to be moved because I
think it's it's going to be year to year.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I said, okay, and then he did call me out.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
He goes, I think he overreacted to the joker kid
get traded by Denver. I said, I'm just going off
the comments of the president of the Nuggets. That's all
I said. Why would you say that? He goes, Well, no,
you should never say that, never, I said, that's all
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he was going on. I said, Plus, it's late June
and I'm looking for topics here. You know, just leave
me alone here, damn it. This job can be difficult
sometimes all right, time to play good idea, Bad idea. Paul,
you're the host of good idea, Bad Idea.
Speaker 12 (13:24):
Yeah, this rarely works out well for me, Dan, but
we'll give it another try.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Is it a good idea or bad idea that we
have good idea or bad idea?
Speaker 12 (13:32):
Don't answer that, Okay, then this segment will go away.
All right, Here we go, Marvin with the rash and
the coverage of achilles injuries in the NBA, one of
the big basketball shoe companies should bring back eighties nineties
high top style air Force shoes with more ankle support
and market those shoes as a preventative measure for ankle
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calf injury.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Good idea, Well, I brought it up, Yes, that I
wondered if it was the shoes. If there's something that
can be done with shoes. Remember those shoes were those
yeasies that Durant wore that were a little bit higher, higher,
high top. Do you remember that, Marvin. Weren't there shoes
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that were that went up a little bit higher?
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Yes, Nike you also had the Marty mcflies that are
super duper high up. Yeah, but guys like Durant and
Kobe and Tyrese. They were all wearing low top sneakers
I think when they tore their achilles, so good idea.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Huh hmm. Okay, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 12 (14:39):
I'm looking back at the eighties and nineties and like
the David Robinson and the Patrick Euan the King shoes
all different companies, but they're really high. They kind of
peaked and then in the mid nineties they started going
lower shoes, almost like a three quarter cut, and that's
kind of what it is today. There's very I can find,
almost no active basketball player that wears a true eighties
nineties high top.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, and I and I'm okay with that as a
starter of Okay, maybe this is an exploratory point here,
because I see guys wearing low cuts more than I
ever thought. Used to be, man, you wanted to have
high top so you didn't get sprained ankles. But these
guys have low cut shoes, and there could be something
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to that of the support you get, and of course
the marketing of helping protect your achilles.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
Yes, Dylan, Well, even like Lebron, I feel like his
first shoes were much higher top than they are now,
like they've sort of progressed to lower top shoes. I
kind of like the high top personally though, big rebock
pump guy.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, yeah, Paully.
Speaker 12 (15:43):
I think the byproduct of this, if New Balance or
whatever company did it, it's under the guise of this
is going to help you for your ankles and stuff
like this market around all what's going on right now,
and if one player does it or one cool player
does it and it catches on with the young community,
sell you'll of the.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Market until that guy blows out his achilles wearing no shoes, and.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Then it's done.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
It's always an exception, thank you, Tom.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yes, well, so we're leaning towards yes, good idea, Yes,
a good idea.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But you did have a bad idea with the step
back jumper yesterday.
Speaker 12 (16:18):
I stand by that.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah. No, I don't think the step back has led
to the achilles.
Speaker 12 (16:22):
To recap that. I believe that over the past ten years,
players doing the step back jumper, and probably thousands of
times in practice, has caused an increase of stress on
the ankle CAF area because that move was not popular
in the eighties, nineties and today eighties and nineties.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
J Bill has called you down on that.
Speaker 12 (16:42):
Yeah, and the doctor did as well.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
In Mark addicts, Yeah, but.
Speaker 12 (16:46):
It's a theory. It can't be wrong. It's more so. Wait,
a theory can't be wrong by nature. A theory cannot
be wrong. It could be disproven, but I would need
these guys to disprove it.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Okay, yes, tod, I.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Think it's all the traveling. But taking that many more steps,
you're more likely to injure your achilles.
Speaker 12 (17:06):
Oh no, thanks for bailing me out.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
I did.
Speaker 9 (17:14):
Get stealing. Yes, I really hoped you up fall. I
was gonna say, I have tons of theories and almost.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
All of them are wrong. Give me, do you have
a real theory.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
The moon landing?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
No, I don't know. I think the achilles. I think
the shoes.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I'm I'm open to that, and I would be open
to a conversation, a further discussion, conversation.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I think, look at you, you're very clever.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Okay, we're all trying to think.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
How do you get rebound? I know, h kiss my Adidas.
Speaker 12 (17:58):
There you go?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Okay, all right, Okay, how about we take a break.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
I would have got the gong, by the way, if
I said a d n ass for sure, But you
have hoo.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You don't have to think I'd love to see that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
You watch your mouth. You get sassy on me. All right,
and it's only Thursday, it feels a little like Friday. Okay,
we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up, more
theories as well. Back after this and the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 1 (19:12):
He's still moving.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
We're gonna play the Cooper Flag game coming up. By
the way, Carmelo Anthony was on the podcast with Paul
Georgie's podcast P and He talked about what Cooper Flag
needs to work on.
Speaker 14 (19:28):
To me, he doesn't do anything great. He just do
a lot of very good. You know what I'm saying.
He offensive rebound very good. He in the passing lanes
very good. He's a weak side defender, very good. On
ball defender. He got a lot better. I want to
see him against you. I want to see him against Kad,
I want to see him against Luca. I want to
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see him against ann Elwis because you coming in as
that guy. If he gotta develop the right way, he
gotta get a skill set. You can't be in the
pros and don't have a skill set. So you have
to have a skill set, like your skill set have
to be something.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Yea, a wonderful full of like something floater like.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You have to have.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Something that's your go to right now, he don't have
a go to.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, this is coming from an offensive minded guy. Cooper
Flag has a well rounded game, so he does have tools.
He doesn't have a signature move. How many guys in
the NBA have a signature move? How many eighteen year
olds have a signature move? Now, I know, in fairness
to Carmelo, he's saying this is what he needs to
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work on. Okay, he probably would say, I have a
lot of things to work on. But to be able
to play defense, willing to play defense, and you're considered
a very good defensive player, you're a good passer, and
you have the ability to score. Will he need a
signature move? Probably, or at least a couple of I
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can go here. If that's not there, I can go here.
Can I beat you off the dribble? Can I hit
the mid rate jumper? Am I going to be a
three point shooter? I mean he might be more of
a durant feel of that fifteen to eighteen feet like
find your living in there, and that feels like that's
the new sweet spot in the NBA. Either that or
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if you're able to go down low and use big
man moves. But that mid range jumper, it feels like
you have more players. You know, Shay Gilchs, they lived there.
If you can and you can get your shot consistently,
why not. I mean not everybody is meant to shoot threes.
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They all think they are. But if you're able to
get in that area, take advantage of it.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yes, Mark, you.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
See that this is a copycat league. Because when the
Celtics won, they take a million threes a game. And
then that was the big complaint with a lot of
NBA fans was, man, all they do is shoot threes.
And now you see the NBA chant where their best
player just takes mid range games. Now we might go
back to the way it was.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And according to DraftKings, the over under prop bets for
the rookie season of Cooper Flag sixteen and a half
points and six rebounds. Those there nice numbers. If he
was sixteen and six, I think that that would be Now.
I don't think that's up to expectations, but those should
be the expectations. And I brought this up. It was misinterpreted,
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but maybe I allowed it to be misinterpreted where I said,
if he has a career like Kevin Loves, people might
view that as a disappointment. Kevin Love is a Hall
of Famer. I'm just saying that with Cooper Flag, he
played against the Olympic team, he has no flaws. He's
the number one pick, He's eighteen years of age. You
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had scouts who said he could have played in the
NBA at sixteen. I think the expectation level is going
to be greater than that. But if you said Cooper
Flag has a Kevin Love career, I'd sign up for that. Yeah, pulling,
And I.
Speaker 12 (23:01):
Think people still don't realize Cooper Flag skip his senior
year of college, so he's basically the school I sorry,
high school. Yes, he's basically the same age as Kevin
Garnett was when he was a rookie. Kevin Garnett averaged
ten points and six rebounds as a rookie. That's not bad,
but that's not great. Kobe Bryant was six months younger
than Cooper Flag as a rookie. I think Kobe averaged
like nine. He started two games.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
All right, let's play the Cooper Flag game. Some music.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Okay, you can strike up the band a little more
than that.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Okay, yeah, here.
Speaker 12 (23:35):
We go, simple game, Dan, All right, Now, we're gonna
have to reconvene in fifteen years to check on the results.
So never could clear their calendar. How many All Star
teams will Cooper Flag make?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, we don't know what the new format's going to be,
so it might be tougher for him to make the
All Star team because they're gonna have the World against
the West player.
Speaker 12 (24:00):
Let's say it's the the All Star honor. I guess
of okay, whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Maybe okay, sort of like a Pro Bowl selection. Yeah,
all right, Todd will start with you. How many All
Star teams does Cooper Flag make in his career? Thirteen
time All Star? All right, Dylan seven, Marvin eight. I'm
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gonna go five.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I'm gonna go five.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
That's it. That's all.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Okay. I was waiting for you to make a prediction.
Speaker 12 (24:41):
Yeah, I will go I'll go nine.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
All right. Yeah, who votes on that? Those aren't the fans, right?
Speaker 7 (24:51):
It used to be the fans for the starters.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Now I think it's the combination of fans and coaches.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, that's another thing of who's voting, because you can
get in by popularity contest.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yes, yes, Paul.
Speaker 12 (25:06):
If everybody main votes, he's in every year.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Well, it's not a lot of people.
Speaker 12 (25:10):
Your people.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, that's not a it's not a big group to
pull from. But that's very everybody will vote for him.
I don't think there's anybody in Maine that's going to go.
Speaker 11 (25:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I need to see a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
They love them some Cooper Flag, Craig and fort Wayne Hi, Craig,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (25:29):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Good morning?
Speaker 13 (25:30):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (25:31):
Sort of a best and worst? Do the Cabs have
the distinction of having the best overall number one pick
and Lebron and the absolute worst overall number one pick
and Anthony Bennett? Is it possible to be on both
ends of the spectrum?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, certainly with Lebron that's a possibility. You know, if
you're factoring both of those in of the best and
worst number one overall picks. Yeah, I don't know who
would be a close second, because if Lebron's greatness, that'd
be like the Bulls. Well, Mike wasn't taken number one overall,
so you got to get number one overall pick, Marvin,
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you got a second to Then.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
I got to look at the Crates.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, it's okay, number one overall. It's a team that's
had the number one one overall pick at least uh twice,
so you got to start there. But yeah, Anthony Bennett, man,
that was a rough year, or at least at the top.
When and I watch a lot of basketball, and when
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I started to look at these mock drafts and they go,
Anthony Bennett, you NLV, and I go, I've watched un
LV and I never would have thought he'd be the
number one pick. He was built like a star. It
just kept going way a minute. What am I missing
If he's going number one? I knew nothing about basketball.
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It's like Michael Olivia Candy and that was back when. Well,
you're tall, so we'll take you number one, or you'll
get teams who do this. Well, we already got two forwards.
We don't need another one. And I always go back
to the Portland Trailblazers. You know we got Clyde. We
don't Clyde Drexler. We don't need Mike. Let's take the
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big guy in Sam Bouie and Sam Bowie if healthy,
could have had a prosperous NBA career. But you're passing
on somebody because you feel like you've got somebody at
that position. There's nothing wrong with having talent, Like talent
will work with talent. You know, if you get that right,
then you get something really spect Imagine if Mike had
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gone there to Portland with Clyde Drexler.
Speaker 12 (27:53):
Yes, point of that extremes with draft picks. The Philadelphia
seventy six ers drafted Allen iverson number one and they
also drafted Markel Folts number one. Oh that's extreme.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Okay, was Markel Foltz better than Anthony Bennett quite a bit?
Because lebron was quite a bit better than Allen Iverson.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
All right, all right, we at least have a plan
or a second candidate here.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Thank you. Craig Ryan in Austin, Hi, Ryan, what's on
your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 15 (28:29):
DP, I live at the firehouse today and I was
talking to guys about how awesome having kids is and
how it should hopefully change your world perspective for the better.
So I kind of have two questions. One, I was
wondering how your career changed after the kids, because I'm
sure it's very cutthroat, and how much of the maybe
the BF stuff at work subsided. And was there any
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athlete NBA guys or kids? In my eyes, have you
seen any athlete change dramatically almost still one to eighty
once they had kids when they're kind of perspective, the
world has has changed.
Speaker 11 (29:01):
I'll hang up the mess and the Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Don't know, Ryan, I mean, for me, work became less important.
There are things that you missed out on. I'd be
at the NBA Finals every year. And my daughter was
born on June twenty first, and I remember, you know,
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then you started rooting for a game. I love Jordan
because I got a Game six and I didn't have
to go to Game seven. But yeah, I think there
were there were moments where I was working second shift,
I missed an awful lot of things. And then I realized,
thanks to my wife making me realize, you're going to
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miss everything. And my kids were nine, what nine to twelve,
the fourteen, sixteen, somewhere like that, all four of them,
and she said, they're all going to be gone if
you sign another contract at ESPN. And I've talked about
this and it made me, you know, it crystallized what
are you doing? Like how much success or how much
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money or you got to be around and I have
three daughters, you got to be around. And I just
kept thinking ESPN was the most important thing. And I'm
sure as an athlete, you have a finite amount of
time to make your money. I could do this for
forty years. Athletes can't do that. And I think that
that was the eye opener of Yeah, I could have
been still working at ESPN and was planning on being
(30:30):
a lifer until and all I wanted to do was
one Friday a month do the show from my attic.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And they said, it's precedent setting. If we'd let you
do it, then we let everybody. If they had done that,
I might still be there. I thankfully, in a weird way,
I'm glad that they said no, because I just I
was so selfish with my job that I realized they
don't give a damn about me, but I give it
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damn about them. It was a bad I was in
an abusive relationship that I created. They were just being management,
you know. They didn't care like they love you like.
I got a football that had a mission statement on it.
I brought it home and I said in my wife,
I said, look at this.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
They give me a mission statement football, work, life, buntin.
She goes, they don't care about you. Yeah, they gave
me a football and it's got a mission statement on it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Hunt and you got that Cal Ripden Junior VHS.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yes I did. I got the Dale Earnhardt Senior movie.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
You got plenty plenty.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So priorities, Boy, they change, and hopefully they don't change
after you change. But I would still be there probably
if they said, you know, every Friday, you do the
show from home, because they couldn't tell the difference. The
sound quality was great, you know, they said that was
the infamous You got to come in because you're good
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for morale. Oh I just remember Paulie would make fun
of me. He goes, Okay, here's Murrell, here comes morale,
and we're like, he's here.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Just call me al.
Speaker 12 (32:19):
But it was counterproductive because you would come in in
a salty mood. I'd be miserable as opposed to being
home going, Hey guys, let's.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Do a show.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Yes, yes, Dylany.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
That's definitely changed too with the times. Like I feel
like if you went to them today, with like work
from home being such a big thing.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Van Pelts in d C.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Exactly, they let him go home and it's all you know,
but they they realized that, you know what, talent just
doesn't come walking through that door as often as they
thought it was going to and therefore we were all
treated the same. And uh, you know they found out.
They got a real slap in the face of reality
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of that. But hey, I got eighteen years there. Fifteen
were wonderful, and you can't argue with that, but thank
god they didn't let me do the show from Homer.
I'd still be there. I would be I would have
been a lifer. I was never going to leave. Okay,
I bet we take a break. Last call for phone calls.
What we learned, what's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
The Big Dumpers joining us tomorrow. Let's go Seattle Mariners
catcher Cal Rawley, the.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Big stop pitting home runs.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
This guy, the Big.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Dumper, going to join us on the program. Maury Povich
has a podcast, and you are not the father. Your
brother is why what? Maury Povich has a podcast, a
golf podcast and reached out one know if he could
to us, and of course daytime TV. I think people
(34:05):
confuse Maury Povich and Jerry Springer because Springers that was wild.
Jerry's was wild. You could get hurt on Springer. But
with Maury it always felt like there's three women or
two women and a guy, and you're.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Not sure.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
If he got both of them pregnant, is he the father?
Then you have the DNA test. You are not the father, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
Then more he says, please welcome, Michael, shut up whatever, whatever.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I don't know me.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Yes, if the show has a bouncer that you know
by name, like Steve with the Jerry Springer said no,
it's a little violence.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Steve has got his own show, had his own show
for a long time.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
What's his last name?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Will Cooe, Steve Wilcoe. A great story though. I'm at
the Preakness in Baltimore and h there were a lot
of luminaries there. The under Armour was holding a party
and Steve Spurrier was in there. Cal Ripken was in there.
(35:11):
Steve from Springer was in there. Oh no, he wasn't there.
That's that's let me get the story straight. So I'm
with cal Ripken and this woman comes over. She's staring
at cal Ripkin, staring, and I'm going, okay, Baltimore, okay.
Probably you know had crushed on him as an Orea.
All of a sudden, she just staring and then walked
(35:34):
over and she goes, I know you you know, and
he's very sheepishly, you know, like, oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
You're with Jerry Springer. Your name is Steve, and.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I go.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Cal, she doesn't know who you are.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And if you look at Steve and you have cow,
I guess I could understand how you could make that mistake.
But that was that was kind of humbling, I think
for Cal, maybe in a good way where he thought
it was funny, but she knew that that was Steve
from Jerry Springer.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yes, Dalan, that's way better if you're Steve Wilcos and
you get called Cal Rip, Yeah for sure. Yes, Uh, all.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Right, So the Big Dumper tomorrow, Mary Povich tomorrow, it's
a meet Friday tomorrow. It's a random show late June
here on the Dan Patrick Show. Round two tonight, and
uh did they do a mock There have to be
round two mock drafts.
Speaker 12 (36:42):
There's nothing that makes you feel worse about yourself than
reading over round two NBA mock drafts.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Okay, round two mock draft.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Uh, let me, we're having the boss to sign you
to watch it.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Let's see, I don't know.
Speaker 12 (37:02):
It's a lot of guys who are like twenty three
year old seniors in college.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Okay, yeah, all right, so the mock draft round two, well,
the real draft coming up tonight, tom in North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Hi Tom, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (37:17):
Hey?
Speaker 16 (37:17):
DP, are you calling you from the road? Going out
of town for a little mini vacation. Shout out, a
happy birthday, shout out to my beautiful wife, actually sleeping wife.
As a matter, if it's eighteen, it's twelve to eighteen
hours at night, gets in the car, falls asleep right away. Anyway,
I want to chime in on the little hat discussion
(37:39):
that you guys were doing earlier today.
Speaker 11 (37:43):
I noticed last.
Speaker 16 (37:44):
Week that Todd won Todd Fritz was wearing a North
Carolina University of North Carolina hat, and he's publicly made
it known that he has ties to Syracuse and Wait Forest,
And the very next day he was wearing a Wait
Sports I don't know if this is Iam Wrey, but
is he anticipating UNC maybe having a good year this year?
Speaker 11 (38:07):
Maybe jumped on the bandwayan early.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Why did you have a UNC hat on?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Brendan Haywood was one of our guests.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Oh, that was a shout out to him, So I
decided to grab a UNC hat that I found ane.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
How about this day in sports history?
Speaker 12 (38:19):
Paul I just got one good one. The nineteen sixteen
White Sox versus the Cleveland Indians. They appeared in the
game where the numbers on the sleeves matched the numbers
on the scoreboard. Is the first time players in a
baseball game had numbers on their.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Jerseys on this day. In two thousand and three, Lebron
James is the first pick.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
In the NBA Draft. Let's see what else did I have?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Oh? There were seven shutouts Wednesday in baseball. That's the
most on any single day since twenty fifteen, when there
were seven. Only once in baseball history have there been
more shutouts on a single day, and it occurred in
nineteen seven seventy two.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
There were eight shutouts.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Stat of the Day, SAT of the day, pop up,
stat of the day, stat of the day.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Here comes that?
Speaker 4 (39:11):
What stat of the name?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Also twenty fifteen, the Eerie Otters take Connor McDavid.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
As the number one pick in the draft. I wonder
if Connor McDavid will be with Edmonton much longer. Let's
see Dylan in Orlando, Hi, Dyll, thanks for holding What
do you have for me?
Speaker 11 (39:32):
Say?
Speaker 6 (39:33):
Then?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
First time? Long time six foot two, about one fifty five?
That thing the dam I call I had an idea?
I see about the hat. I not if someone earlier
said something about a Swiss army hat and an idea
pop into my head about how about instead of having
the switch hats, you have a generic hat with a
big Delco spot on it, and each team has a
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little Velco sticker for that way they can switch out
the logos the here instead of having to switch out
the whole hat.
Speaker 11 (39:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I just don't like taking away that moment, the photo
op of you and the commissioner. You just got drafted
and you're wearing the hat of the team that just
traded you.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
But see, a lot of these deals don't go down
until you a if you get that guy, then we'll
trade you this guy. If you get that guy, we'll
trade you our draft pick, and then you're going to
give us a draft pick the follow up. I mean,
that's how it works. I know there's really no way
around it, but it did bother me last night. All right,
let's go around the room see if we learned anything. Todd,
(40:32):
did you learn anything today?
Speaker 7 (40:34):
I did.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Carmel Anthony says Cooper Flag's very good at different things,
but doesn't do any one thring thing great.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
No skill set or stignature.
Speaker 9 (40:41):
Movean Dylan visors might be the option for the NBA draft.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Marvin, what did you learn today?
Speaker 7 (40:47):
Florio is the outsider of insiders.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
That is true, Paul, We're going to fix the hat situation. Todd,
what did I learn on today's program?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
We all learned?
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Polly, remind us the only thing worse than entering the
NBA Draft as a college senior being a fifth year.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
What they're going to be some twenty two, twenty three,
twenty four year olds drafted tonight. Thanks for the phone calls, emails, tweets,
the all around support. Dylan filling in for Seaton, the
Minister of humor, Fritzie, Marv, Paula yours truly. We'll talk
to you tomorrow on our meet Friday,