May 31, 2023 • 9 mins
There are 3 major players in the "injection for weight loss" game. They seem to be working but are the side effects worth it?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I was reading this about how people are positively evangelical
about the new weight loss injections that you can get.
There are the most popular ones are Manjaro, Ozepic, and Wagovy.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Those are the three big ones out there. Can we
just start naming drugs? Drug four to thirty three, drug
four to thirty four. This one's drug four to thirty five.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Well, I feel like the naming sessions. Who's got a
good idea for a name? How about Manjaro? All right,
and they just write it down blum farfek? Fine is
that with two f's three? That's fine, Let's go with it.
And then I read this. Studies on weight loss injections
show dramatic outcomes, with patients losing an average of two
point four percent of their total Wait a minute, two
(00:43):
point four percent. So I did the math for me,
and that would come out to a little about four
and a half pounds. Whoop de do So if I
weigh one thousand pounds, I'm gonna lose twenty four pounds.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Wow, Brandon Fraser, Well that's better than nothing.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm not sure it is. I'm not sure it is
better than nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Two point four percent, that's.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Not anyway, So Charles oooh, Charles Barkley had much better
results than that. He's the most famous person out there
talking about right now. In fact, he's in People magazine
that I didn't know still existed because I haven't been
to the dentist recently.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
What's a magazine, grandpa? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
He's lost sixty two pounds. He said, I'm taking my
shot once a week. Charles Barkley, the famous basketball player
really more of a famous ad pitchman and commentator now.
I said, I'm working out taking my shot once a week.
I'm sixty years old. He's lost. Let me get to
the quote on the how much he's Barkley, who's among
the top twenty NBA rebounders of all time. I don't
(01:40):
know why they threw that in there. Does that matter? Nay?
I started at three hundred and fifty two pounds. Whoa,
I'm down to two ninety. I'm starting to feel like
a human being, not a fat ass anymore. This is
the part I really like. My doctor told me that
there's a lot of fat young people. There ain't a
lot of fat old people. They're all dead. After revealing
that he takes the sho shot for weight loss. The
(02:01):
People magazine interviewers said, do you know what it's doing
to you exactly? Barkley said, I don't have any idea.
I have zero idea what it does. Wow, I don't know.
If you're three hundred and fifty pounds, you might think
I gotta do something that I'm gonna be dead by tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So side curiosity, you'd want to know, how does this
drug work? Doctor?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
How do they? How do they work?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Gosh, are they?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think it has to do with how you metabolize
sugar and deal with insulin or so. I don't just
remember reading it and thinking, oh interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm just a little skeptical about the fact that people
are talking about weight loss injections, like the method of
getting it into you alone is the key, because that
doesn't really make sense to me. Does it make sense
to you? Because they've been working on pills and salves
and all kinds of things, now all of a sudden,
injector Oh, you'd get in the injection and there are
a bunch of different kinds. Are they all the same?
(02:53):
Are they all as successful? Is there something unique about injections?
I find that hard to believe, but I could see
how people would decide that injections were uniquely different than
taking a pill. Oh yeah, yeah, I suppose so as
a sales jo point, drugs were all just developed in
a very narrow range of time at each of them.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well, well, someday they happen to be injections.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well someday and maybe we're there they'll crack the code
on this whole thing. I think that day will come,
and maybe it's already here. But I also know in
my lifetime I've lived through many, many new miracle ideas
for diets and pills and all that sort of stuff
that turn out to either not do what they claimed
or be really horrible.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
The FDA would never rush through approval of a drug
that's going to sell a trillion dollars worth for a
big pharma. They would never do that, or brave guardians
in the government.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So I'm gonna throw out safe we got anybody out
there doing the injection, because it'd be awesome. But we'd
all love that. I mean, if there were a safe
injection that causes me to not metabolize all the fat
I take in and just lets me pass those calories
through my body somehow, God, that just sounds like it's
got to be bad for you. That'd be awesome, though.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's interesting. I don't recall reading. Do you have to,
you know, refashion your diet at all?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
This is all you got to do. You take the injection,
then you work out two hours a day and eat
only lettuce. You will lose two point four pounds.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I'm okay with my weight
right now, so I haven't thought very seriously about it.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
If they came up with the miracle drug that allows
you to the dream drug, would be like, you can
eat whatever you want right without gaining weight, wouldn't that I.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Don't need that.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Well, let's talk about since you're so incredibly disciplined and
got your body under control.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
No, no, not at all. No, you're beating an ass.
You're ephemeral and melodorous. Just don't don't make me be miserable.
I'll eat a reasonable diet.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
But do you think that's what people would do? Or
would the line at the jack in the box be
longer than it's ever been? So you think they would
actually take advantage of the drug by eating much mold?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That's what I ended up in the same spot.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I just well, or it's a great question, or I
don't know. Maybe the drugs works really well, you wouldn't
end up in the same spot we we'd all just
would just be constantly eating crap because you can't.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It's a beautiful dream, well is it?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I don't know. I don't know what it would do
to your digestive system or any of that. I mean,
that's still an issue.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I could I could manage my blood pressure without as
many drugs as I'm taking, so that would be cool.
Maybe I'll ask my doctor about it. Doctor, is blow
frenchra right for me?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right? I don't know what was that first.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
One you said?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
If this is the if this is the miracle drug
everybody's been waiting for, I'll be interested to know what
it does to society. If it just changed everybody eats
desserts every time they go out to the restaurant now,
or something like that. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I'm a big bull ice cream after your morning cereal exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, people that weren't just walking around with handfuls of
donuts and bowls of ice cream. That might be what happens,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Tossing donuts into each other's mouths, oh, that'll be festive.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
The three, right, the three biggest, armunduro O, Zepic, and wagovy.
So take one of those or a cocktail of all three,
or do one do something? Oh man, we are loaded
up too. We got a bunch of texts from people
who have taken the new weight loss injections, and I'm
learning a lot about that, So stay tuned. We'll get
(06:18):
to that at some point later in the program. They
give that a big fat shot in the ass. And
first of all this uh so you know how viagru
was originally what a blood pressure medicine and then they
realize it also gives you wood? Maybe I well we
could market it as this. It turned out to be
one that that.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Is unnecessarily indelicate, ephemeral and malodorous.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, how would you have said it?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
An erection? I'm an adult.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Erection is a better word than wood.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yes, you're thirteen year old.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Ephemeral and melodors. Yeah, well, this it's been around for
like ten years. Is a diabetic, a drug for diabetes,
blood sugar particularly, But then they noticed that it also
was reducing belly fat. So that's the way it came
to be. But so we got a number of people
that have been trying a few of them. There are
some side effects involved. Let's go through some of the
(07:04):
things we've learned here. I am currently on Wigova Wagova
for about three months. I started at two thirty five
and now I'm two of five. So you lost thirty
pounds in three months. That's that's great, but unfortunately, I
think a lot of people are hoping for faster than that.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
But ten pounds a month, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You start with a very small dose the first month
and then work up to your maintenance dose. The drug
works by changing the way your body metabolizes food and
processes insulin. It also affects the satiation feeling between your
brain and your stomach. I'm less hungry throughout the day
and have less desire to eat when I actually consume
a meal.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I think a lot of people want that You're not,
you know, feeling hungry all the time. The adverse effects
are pretty severe. Nausea at times, and during the first month,
bowel movements were unpleasant to say the least.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh like, how unpleasant is it worth it?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I can say that I have been struggling with my
weight my entire life, and it's been a small price
to pay. I've been able to get more exercise, feel
much better having lost the weight than I did carrying around,
So that's one. That's one positive. Although horrifying bowel movements
doesn't sound like, you know, a walk in the park, well,
it's definitely not.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And again, as the adult in the show, I don't
want to put too fine a point on it, but like,
in what way are they terrible? Like spontaneous and uncontrollable,
like excruciating burning?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Right, the worst pain you've ever felt?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, Hey guys. The drug is called a zimpic that
I take for type two diabetes, but my Medicare stopped
paying for it. It was nine hundred dollars cash, so
now I can't get it, So that's a thing too.
I don't know how many of these are your insurance
I get. Also, I would suppose it makes sense to
me that unless you're dangerously overweight, they're not.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Going to pay for it, would they? Boy, that's expensive.
If that's the monthly cost, I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
If it's just a vanity thing, they're not gonna pay
for that.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Or is that for each shot?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It was a month? Been on these things, these drugs
for two weeks overwhel It's a little more complex than
you indicate it. But it delays stomach emptying, so you
feel full after not eating much food, and then you
feel full a lot longer, so that's interesting. It delays
stomach emptying.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Then you have these spontaneous, uncontrollable and fiery be it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Your eyes bleed a little. Good morning, I have it on.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Your food comes out of you at one hundred and
twenty degrees. It takes them getting.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Used to it was so bizarre and so good tesque.
Once you get in the habit of carrying a leather
strap into the restroom to bite down on exactly, you're fine.
You get used to it.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Your coworkers get used to the shrieks.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh yeah, once your family gets used to you screaming
in the restroom, once your kids realize you're gonna come out, okay, it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Sounds like the Manjarro's kicked in.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh oh oh
I was reading this about how people are positively evangelical
about the new weight loss injections that you can get.
There are the most popular ones are Manjaro, Ozepic, and Wagovy.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Those are the three big ones out there. Can we
just start naming drugs? Drug four to thirty three, drug
four to thirty four. This one's drug four to thirty five.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Well, I feel like the naming sessions. Who's got a
good idea for a name? How about Manjaro? All right,
and they just write it down blum farfek? Fine is
that with two f's three? That's fine, Let's go with it.
And then I read this. Studies on weight loss injections
show dramatic outcomes, with patients losing an average of two
point four percent of their total Wait a minute, two
(00:43):
point four percent. So I did the math for me,
and that would come out to a little about four
and a half pounds. Whoop de do So if I
weigh one thousand pounds, I'm gonna lose twenty four pounds.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Wow, Brandon Fraser, Well that's better than nothing.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm not sure it is. I'm not sure it is
better than nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Two point four percent, that's.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Not anyway, So Charles oooh, Charles Barkley had much better
results than that. He's the most famous person out there
talking about right now. In fact, he's in People magazine
that I didn't know still existed because I haven't been
to the dentist recently.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
What's a magazine, grandpa? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
He's lost sixty two pounds. He said, I'm taking my
shot once a week. Charles Barkley, the famous basketball player
really more of a famous ad pitchman and commentator now.
I said, I'm working out taking my shot once a week.
I'm sixty years old. He's lost. Let me get to
the quote on the how much he's Barkley, who's among
the top twenty NBA rebounders of all time. I don't
(01:40):
know why they threw that in there. Does that matter? Nay?
I started at three hundred and fifty two pounds. Whoa,
I'm down to two ninety. I'm starting to feel like
a human being, not a fat ass anymore. This is
the part I really like. My doctor told me that
there's a lot of fat young people. There ain't a
lot of fat old people. They're all dead. After revealing
that he takes the sho shot for weight loss. The
(02:01):
People magazine interviewers said, do you know what it's doing
to you exactly? Barkley said, I don't have any idea.
I have zero idea what it does. Wow, I don't know.
If you're three hundred and fifty pounds, you might think
I gotta do something that I'm gonna be dead by tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So side curiosity, you'd want to know, how does this
drug work? Doctor?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
How do they? How do they work?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Gosh, are they?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think it has to do with how you metabolize
sugar and deal with insulin or so. I don't just
remember reading it and thinking, oh interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm just a little skeptical about the fact that people
are talking about weight loss injections, like the method of
getting it into you alone is the key, because that
doesn't really make sense to me. Does it make sense
to you? Because they've been working on pills and salves
and all kinds of things, now all of a sudden,
injector Oh, you'd get in the injection and there are
a bunch of different kinds. Are they all the same?
(02:53):
Are they all as successful? Is there something unique about injections?
I find that hard to believe, but I could see
how people would decide that injections were uniquely different than
taking a pill. Oh yeah, yeah, I suppose so as
a sales jo point, drugs were all just developed in
a very narrow range of time at each of them.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well, well, someday they happen to be injections.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well someday and maybe we're there they'll crack the code
on this whole thing. I think that day will come,
and maybe it's already here. But I also know in
my lifetime I've lived through many, many new miracle ideas
for diets and pills and all that sort of stuff
that turn out to either not do what they claimed
or be really horrible.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
The FDA would never rush through approval of a drug
that's going to sell a trillion dollars worth for a
big pharma. They would never do that, or brave guardians
in the government.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So I'm gonna throw out safe we got anybody out
there doing the injection, because it'd be awesome. But we'd
all love that. I mean, if there were a safe
injection that causes me to not metabolize all the fat
I take in and just lets me pass those calories
through my body somehow, God, that just sounds like it's
got to be bad for you. That'd be awesome, though.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's interesting. I don't recall reading. Do you have to,
you know, refashion your diet at all?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
This is all you got to do. You take the injection,
then you work out two hours a day and eat
only lettuce. You will lose two point four pounds.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I'm okay with my weight
right now, so I haven't thought very seriously about it.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
If they came up with the miracle drug that allows
you to the dream drug, would be like, you can
eat whatever you want right without gaining weight, wouldn't that I.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Don't need that.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Well, let's talk about since you're so incredibly disciplined and
got your body under control.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
No, no, not at all. No, you're beating an ass.
You're ephemeral and melodorous. Just don't don't make me be miserable.
I'll eat a reasonable diet.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
But do you think that's what people would do? Or
would the line at the jack in the box be
longer than it's ever been? So you think they would
actually take advantage of the drug by eating much mold?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That's what I ended up in the same spot.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I just well, or it's a great question, or I
don't know. Maybe the drugs works really well, you wouldn't
end up in the same spot we we'd all just
would just be constantly eating crap because you can't.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It's a beautiful dream, well is it?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I don't know. I don't know what it would do
to your digestive system or any of that. I mean,
that's still an issue.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I could I could manage my blood pressure without as
many drugs as I'm taking, so that would be cool.
Maybe I'll ask my doctor about it. Doctor, is blow
frenchra right for me?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right? I don't know what was that first.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
One you said?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
If this is the if this is the miracle drug
everybody's been waiting for, I'll be interested to know what
it does to society. If it just changed everybody eats
desserts every time they go out to the restaurant now,
or something like that. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I'm a big bull ice cream after your morning cereal exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, people that weren't just walking around with handfuls of
donuts and bowls of ice cream. That might be what happens,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Tossing donuts into each other's mouths, oh, that'll be festive.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
The three, right, the three biggest, armunduro O, Zepic, and wagovy.
So take one of those or a cocktail of all three,
or do one do something? Oh man, we are loaded
up too. We got a bunch of texts from people
who have taken the new weight loss injections, and I'm
learning a lot about that, So stay tuned. We'll get
(06:18):
to that at some point later in the program. They
give that a big fat shot in the ass. And
first of all this uh so you know how viagru
was originally what a blood pressure medicine and then they
realize it also gives you wood? Maybe I well we
could market it as this. It turned out to be
one that that.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Is unnecessarily indelicate, ephemeral and malodorous.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, how would you have said it?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
An erection? I'm an adult.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Erection is a better word than wood.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yes, you're thirteen year old.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Ephemeral and melodors. Yeah, well, this it's been around for
like ten years. Is a diabetic, a drug for diabetes,
blood sugar particularly, But then they noticed that it also
was reducing belly fat. So that's the way it came
to be. But so we got a number of people
that have been trying a few of them. There are
some side effects involved. Let's go through some of the
(07:04):
things we've learned here. I am currently on Wigova Wagova
for about three months. I started at two thirty five
and now I'm two of five. So you lost thirty
pounds in three months. That's that's great, but unfortunately, I
think a lot of people are hoping for faster than that.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
But ten pounds a month, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You start with a very small dose the first month
and then work up to your maintenance dose. The drug
works by changing the way your body metabolizes food and
processes insulin. It also affects the satiation feeling between your
brain and your stomach. I'm less hungry throughout the day
and have less desire to eat when I actually consume
a meal.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I think a lot of people want that You're not,
you know, feeling hungry all the time. The adverse effects
are pretty severe. Nausea at times, and during the first month,
bowel movements were unpleasant to say the least.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh like, how unpleasant is it worth it?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I can say that I have been struggling with my
weight my entire life, and it's been a small price
to pay. I've been able to get more exercise, feel
much better having lost the weight than I did carrying around,
So that's one. That's one positive. Although horrifying bowel movements
doesn't sound like, you know, a walk in the park, well,
it's definitely not.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And again, as the adult in the show, I don't
want to put too fine a point on it, but like,
in what way are they terrible? Like spontaneous and uncontrollable,
like excruciating burning?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Right, the worst pain you've ever felt?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, Hey guys. The drug is called a zimpic that
I take for type two diabetes, but my Medicare stopped
paying for it. It was nine hundred dollars cash, so
now I can't get it, So that's a thing too.
I don't know how many of these are your insurance
I get. Also, I would suppose it makes sense to
me that unless you're dangerously overweight, they're not.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Going to pay for it, would they? Boy, that's expensive.
If that's the monthly cost, I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
If it's just a vanity thing, they're not gonna pay
for that.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Or is that for each shot?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It was a month? Been on these things, these drugs
for two weeks overwhel It's a little more complex than
you indicate it. But it delays stomach emptying, so you
feel full after not eating much food, and then you
feel full a lot longer, so that's interesting. It delays
stomach emptying.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Then you have these spontaneous, uncontrollable and fiery be it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Your eyes bleed a little. Good morning, I have it on.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Your food comes out of you at one hundred and
twenty degrees. It takes them getting.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Used to it was so bizarre and so good tesque.
Once you get in the habit of carrying a leather
strap into the restroom to bite down on exactly, you're fine.
You get used to it.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Your coworkers get used to the shrieks.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh yeah, once your family gets used to you screaming
in the restroom, once your kids realize you're gonna come out, okay, it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Sounds like the Manjarro's kicked in.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh oh oh
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