October 29, 2024 • 11 mins
San Diego County Supervisor Jim Desmond joins Jack & Joe to talk about protecting the integrity of women’s sports and the reality of southern border in the southwest region.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But I do feel like the general public they're waking
up to those parents' dads, moms. They don't want to
see their daughters lose out on opportunities and be forced
to undress in front of someone of the opposite sex
and their locker room. So I do think tides are turning.
There have been some sports governing bodies who have done
some good things World Athletics, FENA, So I'm appreciating the
(00:23):
little steps, but I do believe the battle is nowhere
near being one.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's Charlie Gaines, who had to swim against a dude
in college, and she has become a big activist on
this whole transport issue. She was standing behind University of
Nevado Reno women's volleyball players on Saturday when they had
to hold a press conference to basically shame or force
their university into forfeiting because the university said, Nope, we're
(00:50):
going to play, and the players were like, what, you
don't get to decide for us. We're not going to
get to play against the dude who plays on San
Jose State. And it's become kind of a game for
me since we started talking about this. I really enjoy
this game of when you follow a mainstream news story
about San Jose San Jose State women's volleyball whether they
ever mentioned what the issue is. News sources have started
(01:14):
to decide they need to cover it all the forfeits,
but they never mentioned why in any mainstream news story,
which is weird, weird, cowardly, dishonest.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So Riley Gaines is a co signer of a letter
with Jim Desmond, who is the supervisor fifth District of
San Diego County's Board of Supervisors, to San Diego State
University because they are going to be playing San Jose
State and their women's volleyball team that features a dude.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Soon, Jim, how are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Thanks for joining us, Hey, thanks for having me this morning.
Thanks for bringing this up.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So, of course, why do you hate? Is my first question?
Clearly you're full of eight?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Fair question?
Speaker 5 (01:56):
All right, No, no, that's full of eight. Just you know,
it's unfair competition. I mean this, you know, why even
discuss this. It's crazy to have you know, men competing
in women's sports, and it only hurts the women, you know,
by them not being able to get scholarships or get
you know, get get the merits. And awards that they
want or deserve, and these men are getting into these
(02:18):
sports and taking it over. It's you know, Riley Gain
signed on the letter, as you mentioned, also Peyton McNabb
who actually is permanently injured after being spiked in the
face by by a male volleyball player. So you know,
this is craziness. And you know, like she had said earlier,
Riley that hopefully the tide is turning.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There are hundreds of medals, championships, scholarships that have been
won by dudes who say I'm a girl now and
have denied the female athletes those those accolades and those opportunities.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That is absolutely bizarre and obscene.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
What's the San Diego State's current stance as far as
you can tell him, Well, we're playing San Jose State
and their guy.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah yeah, well so far radio silence out of San
Diego State, and unfortunately, you know, I have a hunch,
being another California school, they may go ahead with it.
But haven't heard anything yet. Yeah, we haven't heard anything
yet from them, but we're hoping, you know, November ninth
is you know, after the election, hellelujah, but you know,
(03:24):
hopefully we'll get some traction, and maybe some of the
teammates are will say, hey, we just don't want to
compete against this, and I'm glad five teams has already
you know, shut down and not agreed to play San
Jose State.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, yeah, quite a few teams. Quite a few teams
have forfeited. But some of the teams have said why.
But a number of the teams, way too many of
them don't say out loud why they're forfeiting, which I
find troubling.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, I think, Jim correct me if I'm wrong. Some
of them, some of the administrators are actually fearing running
a foul of their progressive states laws on protecting transgender people.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Well, absolutely, and that hence California, you know, doing that.
But I do think, you know, both sides of the
aisle people think this is crazy and outrageous and shouldn't
be taking place. And can't you know, even believe why
we're having to have this conversation. There's you know, anytime
there's a physical competition, men are just more physically capable
(04:24):
than women, but you know, each in their own different ways,
and those sports should be protected.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's worth saluting some of the really courageous people in
this controversy, including the women, the young women who stood
up and said we're not playing this game. Brooks Slusser,
who actually plays for San Jose State, has joined the
lawsuit including eighteen women athletes, including Rigley Gaines. Gains versus
NC Double A is filed in the Federal Court in
(04:51):
the Northern District of Georgia and March alleging the NC
double A rules on transgender women violate their Title nine rights.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
This is heading for the Supreme Court and I can
not wait.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, I'm glad Joe brought up the laws because I
thought it was just cowardice on the part of these
various schools that wouldn't say why they forfeited. But depending
on where you live, there are laws protecting things you
say about transgender athletes or discriminating. I mean, if you
announced out loud, we're quitting because you got a dude
on your team, you'd be in violation of the law.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So that's a problem. Right, Elections have consequences. Hey, I
have one more note on this topic. Jim as a
former girls coach, I can't shut up about this, and
I won't shut up about this ever. But there was
a hit piece in the San Francisco Chronicle bashing miss
Lusser who he just mentioned Brooks Slusser written by one
(05:47):
Marissa in Gemmi, who's a sportswriter who doesn't appear to
have ever played sports, which is not necessary to be
a sports writer at all. You might just be a
big fan and knowledgeable. But she is unquestionably a lgbt
Q plus minus over the power of three activists and
and is bashing a young woman who has the courage
(06:09):
to say it's women's sports. I'm not playing against a dude.
Shame on you, Marissa, Shame on you, San Francisco Chronicle. Anyway,
Jim Desmond of the San Diego County Bord of Supervisors
is on the line. Jim, We're talked you a lot
about Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
We did get this text they could call the game
between San Diego and San Jose the Battle of the Bulge.
I don't feel like that's a helpful test. Well look
at that, he laughs.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
You're incouraging.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
You're that's a that's a really funny joke. Uh So, anyway,
we've we've talked to you, Jim about a lot of
immigration related topics because and it gets less publicity for
some reason than Texas, probably because Gavin Newsom is a
deep blue governor and pretends illegal immigration isn't a troublesome thing.
(06:55):
But San Diego is an epicenter of illegal immigration. What's
going on on that front in your world?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Well, we are back up above capacity for the number
of people coming across the San Diego section of the border,
and so we are beyond capacity. And we were actually
told in San Diego County about a week ago that
they were going to start the street drop offs again.
They stopped the street drop offs in June of this year.
(07:20):
Went from September of last year's so June of this year,
it was about one hundred and fifty five thousand people
they dropped in our streets in June. Because of Biden's
executive order, they cut back on that. But now we're
back up beyond capacity. And so what's happening now Instead
of doing the street dropoffs, they are shipping migrants to Yuma, Arizona,
about three bus loads a day and about one flight
(07:43):
a day to various points in Texas to Lazo.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They just drop them off and essentially say to these
cities and towns you deal with them.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, it's not good on anyway. I've spent a fair
amount of time in Uma traveling. I get off the bus,
have thanks. What am I supposed to do here?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I would imagine there's a lot of non you know,
non government organizations and people that help them get on
their way or travel to wherever it is they're going.
But the optics, which is I really think the reason
they didn't start to drip of street drop offs again
is the optics two weeks before an election, you know,
would have been terrible. And so what they're doing instead
of you know, dropping them on the streets, which quite
(08:25):
frankly we don't really want, but they're shipping them out quietly.
And so we were able to find this out from
our local Border patrol agents and telling us and actually,
you know, we got pictures of the boarding airplanes. They
don't go through the terminal at San Diego Airport. They're
on the cargo side and so they don't have to
not seen as much as they board the airplanes and
(08:49):
get shipped out.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Wow, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Jim Desmond of the fifth District of San Diego County, Jim,
we appreciate the time keep us up to date as
news breaks and developments occur.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
We'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Hey, thanks a lot, Jack and Joe appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Oh, it's our pleasure as always. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
If Trump wins, it's going to be in large part
because of the immigration issue, which a number of people
saw coming years ago, but they weren't able to get there.
The Democrats were not able to get their arms around it.
Probably on purpose.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, and there's ambivalents on the Republican side in the
halls of power, as we've discussed many times. Don't let
the rhetoric fool you that the Republicans are way better
on immigration than Democrats. But for reasons we've discussed again
behind the scenes, the protected class, the moneyed class, they
want the immigrants. They just need to keep it cool
enough that the rest of us don't go crazy. Back
(09:44):
to the battle of a bulge.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So you think where the rubber is going to meet
the road is there's going to be somebody file a
Title nine thing about women in sports on behalf of
no dudes in Sports, and then it will butt up
against one of these pro trans laws where you can't
deny a trans athlete their human rights or something like that,
(10:07):
and that the two have to be enclashed and then
climb up.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You think that's.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No, No, it won't be necessary because the eighteen athletes
have already filed that federal lawsuit are so clearly going
to win that federal law superseding state law and title
line superseding anything the Gavin Newsom's of the world can
cook up. Then there will be no more dudes in
women's sports. How quickly do you think that will have,
at least at the collegiate level.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I think the Soups have agreed to look at a case.
I can't remember which one this term or maybe next term.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I'll look that up and get back to you. But
it'll be it'll be within the next year, I think.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And Clarence Thomas is going to say, does this a
female volleyball player have a penis? Yes, your honor. That
seems like a clearcutcase to be done.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
That could happen.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
How do you like this instead of the Battle of
the bulge, The headline is too many balls on the court.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Three balls is too many for volleyball.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Exactly. There you go. That's the subhead.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Armstrong and Getty
But I do feel like the general public they're waking
up to those parents' dads, moms. They don't want to
see their daughters lose out on opportunities and be forced
to undress in front of someone of the opposite sex
and their locker room. So I do think tides are turning.
There have been some sports governing bodies who have done
some good things World Athletics, FENA, So I'm appreciating the
(00:23):
little steps, but I do believe the battle is nowhere
near being one.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's Charlie Gaines, who had to swim against a dude
in college, and she has become a big activist on
this whole transport issue. She was standing behind University of
Nevado Reno women's volleyball players on Saturday when they had
to hold a press conference to basically shame or force
their university into forfeiting because the university said, Nope, we're
(00:50):
going to play, and the players were like, what, you
don't get to decide for us. We're not going to
get to play against the dude who plays on San
Jose State. And it's become kind of a game for
me since we started talking about this. I really enjoy
this game of when you follow a mainstream news story
about San Jose San Jose State women's volleyball whether they
ever mentioned what the issue is. News sources have started
(01:14):
to decide they need to cover it all the forfeits,
but they never mentioned why in any mainstream news story,
which is weird, weird, cowardly, dishonest.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So Riley Gaines is a co signer of a letter
with Jim Desmond, who is the supervisor fifth District of
San Diego County's Board of Supervisors, to San Diego State
University because they are going to be playing San Jose
State and their women's volleyball team that features a dude.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Soon, Jim, how are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Thanks for joining us, Hey, thanks for having me this morning.
Thanks for bringing this up.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So, of course, why do you hate? Is my first question?
Clearly you're full of eight?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Fair question?
Speaker 5 (01:56):
All right, No, no, that's full of eight. Just you know,
it's unfair competition. I mean this, you know, why even
discuss this. It's crazy to have you know, men competing
in women's sports, and it only hurts the women, you know,
by them not being able to get scholarships or get
you know, get get the merits. And awards that they
want or deserve, and these men are getting into these
(02:18):
sports and taking it over. It's you know, Riley Gain
signed on the letter, as you mentioned, also Peyton McNabb
who actually is permanently injured after being spiked in the
face by by a male volleyball player. So you know,
this is craziness. And you know, like she had said earlier,
Riley that hopefully the tide is turning.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There are hundreds of medals, championships, scholarships that have been
won by dudes who say I'm a girl now and
have denied the female athletes those those accolades and those opportunities.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That is absolutely bizarre and obscene.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
What's the San Diego State's current stance as far as
you can tell him, Well, we're playing San Jose State
and their guy.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah yeah, well so far radio silence out of San
Diego State, and unfortunately, you know, I have a hunch,
being another California school, they may go ahead with it.
But haven't heard anything yet. Yeah, we haven't heard anything
yet from them, but we're hoping, you know, November ninth
is you know, after the election, hellelujah, but you know,
(03:24):
hopefully we'll get some traction, and maybe some of the
teammates are will say, hey, we just don't want to
compete against this, and I'm glad five teams has already
you know, shut down and not agreed to play San
Jose State.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, yeah, quite a few teams. Quite a few teams
have forfeited. But some of the teams have said why.
But a number of the teams, way too many of
them don't say out loud why they're forfeiting, which I
find troubling.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, I think, Jim correct me if I'm wrong. Some
of them, some of the administrators are actually fearing running
a foul of their progressive states laws on protecting transgender people.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Well, absolutely, and that hence California, you know, doing that.
But I do think, you know, both sides of the
aisle people think this is crazy and outrageous and shouldn't
be taking place. And can't you know, even believe why
we're having to have this conversation. There's you know, anytime
there's a physical competition, men are just more physically capable
(04:24):
than women, but you know, each in their own different ways,
and those sports should be protected.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's worth saluting some of the really courageous people in
this controversy, including the women, the young women who stood
up and said we're not playing this game. Brooks Slusser,
who actually plays for San Jose State, has joined the
lawsuit including eighteen women athletes, including Rigley Gaines. Gains versus
NC Double A is filed in the Federal Court in
(04:51):
the Northern District of Georgia and March alleging the NC
double A rules on transgender women violate their Title nine rights.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
This is heading for the Supreme Court and I can
not wait.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, I'm glad Joe brought up the laws because I
thought it was just cowardice on the part of these
various schools that wouldn't say why they forfeited. But depending
on where you live, there are laws protecting things you
say about transgender athletes or discriminating. I mean, if you
announced out loud, we're quitting because you got a dude
on your team, you'd be in violation of the law.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So that's a problem. Right, Elections have consequences. Hey, I
have one more note on this topic. Jim as a
former girls coach, I can't shut up about this, and
I won't shut up about this ever. But there was
a hit piece in the San Francisco Chronicle bashing miss
Lusser who he just mentioned Brooks Slusser written by one
(05:47):
Marissa in Gemmi, who's a sportswriter who doesn't appear to
have ever played sports, which is not necessary to be
a sports writer at all. You might just be a
big fan and knowledgeable. But she is unquestionably a lgbt
Q plus minus over the power of three activists and
and is bashing a young woman who has the courage
(06:09):
to say it's women's sports. I'm not playing against a dude.
Shame on you, Marissa, Shame on you, San Francisco Chronicle. Anyway,
Jim Desmond of the San Diego County Bord of Supervisors
is on the line. Jim, We're talked you a lot
about Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
We did get this text they could call the game
between San Diego and San Jose the Battle of the Bulge.
I don't feel like that's a helpful test. Well look
at that, he laughs.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
You're incouraging.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
You're that's a that's a really funny joke. Uh So, anyway,
we've we've talked to you, Jim about a lot of
immigration related topics because and it gets less publicity for
some reason than Texas, probably because Gavin Newsom is a
deep blue governor and pretends illegal immigration isn't a troublesome thing.
(06:55):
But San Diego is an epicenter of illegal immigration. What's
going on on that front in your world?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Well, we are back up above capacity for the number
of people coming across the San Diego section of the border,
and so we are beyond capacity. And we were actually
told in San Diego County about a week ago that
they were going to start the street drop offs again.
They stopped the street drop offs in June of this year.
(07:20):
Went from September of last year's so June of this year,
it was about one hundred and fifty five thousand people
they dropped in our streets in June. Because of Biden's
executive order, they cut back on that. But now we're
back up beyond capacity. And so what's happening now Instead
of doing the street dropoffs, they are shipping migrants to Yuma, Arizona,
about three bus loads a day and about one flight
(07:43):
a day to various points in Texas to Lazo.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They just drop them off and essentially say to these
cities and towns you deal with them.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, it's not good on anyway. I've spent a fair
amount of time in Uma traveling. I get off the bus,
have thanks. What am I supposed to do here?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I would imagine there's a lot of non you know,
non government organizations and people that help them get on
their way or travel to wherever it is they're going.
But the optics, which is I really think the reason
they didn't start to drip of street drop offs again
is the optics two weeks before an election, you know,
would have been terrible. And so what they're doing instead
of you know, dropping them on the streets, which quite
(08:25):
frankly we don't really want, but they're shipping them out quietly.
And so we were able to find this out from
our local Border patrol agents and telling us and actually,
you know, we got pictures of the boarding airplanes. They
don't go through the terminal at San Diego Airport. They're
on the cargo side and so they don't have to
not seen as much as they board the airplanes and
(08:49):
get shipped out.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Wow, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Jim Desmond of the fifth District of San Diego County, Jim,
we appreciate the time keep us up to date as
news breaks and developments occur.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
We'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Hey, thanks a lot, Jack and Joe appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Oh, it's our pleasure as always. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
If Trump wins, it's going to be in large part
because of the immigration issue, which a number of people
saw coming years ago, but they weren't able to get there.
The Democrats were not able to get their arms around it.
Probably on purpose.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, and there's ambivalents on the Republican side in the
halls of power, as we've discussed many times. Don't let
the rhetoric fool you that the Republicans are way better
on immigration than Democrats. But for reasons we've discussed again
behind the scenes, the protected class, the moneyed class, they
want the immigrants. They just need to keep it cool
enough that the rest of us don't go crazy. Back
(09:44):
to the battle of a bulge.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So you think where the rubber is going to meet
the road is there's going to be somebody file a
Title nine thing about women in sports on behalf of
no dudes in Sports, and then it will butt up
against one of these pro trans laws where you can't
deny a trans athlete their human rights or something like that,
(10:07):
and that the two have to be enclashed and then
climb up.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You think that's.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No, No, it won't be necessary because the eighteen athletes
have already filed that federal lawsuit are so clearly going
to win that federal law superseding state law and title
line superseding anything the Gavin Newsom's of the world can
cook up. Then there will be no more dudes in
women's sports. How quickly do you think that will have,
at least at the collegiate level.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I think the Soups have agreed to look at a case.
I can't remember which one this term or maybe next term.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I'll look that up and get back to you. But
it'll be it'll be within the next year, I think.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And Clarence Thomas is going to say, does this a
female volleyball player have a penis? Yes, your honor. That
seems like a clearcutcase to be done.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
That could happen.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
How do you like this instead of the Battle of
the bulge, The headline is too many balls on the court.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Three balls is too many for volleyball.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Exactly. There you go. That's the subhead.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
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