October 9, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Why isn't Kamala answering actual questions?!
- Bob Woodward's new book... and yes he's still alive.
- More from the cringeworthy CBS staff meeting
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yedty. Good evening.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It has been a tradition here at the Late Show
since yesterday that the major party candidates sit down with
me for an interview. In October, we invited Kamala Harris
to be our guest this evening, and she accepted that
interview in a moment. In the interest of fairness, we
also invited former President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
To go himself. He declined. Our author show the Wow.
Michael mentioned before the show we should hear the opening
of Stephen Colbert last night, who had Kamala Harrison as
the guest. You know, for better or worse, and I
think it's for worse. This is the direction we've gone
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with our culture, where it would have been beyond unheard
of to take that point of view as a talk
show host back in the day. You just you would
not make your preferences that open, no, because it was
seen bad for business. It was bad for business, and
I think also just seen as not the correct way
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to do things.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You're right, it's on gentlemanly and overly aggressive and just
mean to other Americans who disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
But if you want to be successful, now, I suggest
you do what Stephen Colbert does because he gets great
ratings with that. And so that leads us to this
and the point that Kamala Harris, while doing a media
blitz outside of sixty minutes where she was pressed somewhat
certainly more than she normally gets, she's doing she's going
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to all friendly venues. I mean only to the point
that she did Oprah Winfrey. Oprah Winfrey spoke at her convention.
She did Kristin Welker. Kristen Welker had come out and
said she endorses her. Howard Stern endorses her. She's gone
on Howard Stern. She went on the View. Of course,
the views all in love with her, and she went
on Colbert, and you just heard how Colbert handled it.
(02:19):
On The View yesterday, she was asked a question, is
there anything you would do different than what Joe Biden didn't?
She passed on that. She said no, which seems crazy.
Has the change candidate? Yes, it's crazy, And then Colbert
asked the same question last night.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Polling shows that a lot of people, especially independent voters,
really want this to be a change election, and that
they tend to break for you in terms of thinking
about change, you are a member of the president administration
under a Harris administration, what would the major changes be
and what would say the same?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Sure, well, I mean I'm obviously not Joe Biden, and
so that would be one change. But also I think
it's important to say with you know, twenty eight days ago,
I'm not Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, so she decided not to answer the question again.
We got a little more coming up here, but that
is interesting. Mark Cowpern made the point in his newsletter
that you generally you get these big opportunities to be
on big shows and get a big audience. This is
your gonna get their message out. Here's we're going to
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score some points, move the ball down the fields. It's
an opportunity to get your message out without having to
spend a ton of money. You got all that money
that you're having to spend on advertisements to try to
say something. Here you get to say it for free.
And she had the opportunity to say something, and she
chose not to. And as he wrote yesterday, one they're
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making no news with all these interviews, So why do them?
I mean, they're not making any news unless your only
point is to be able to say, oh, we've done
lots of interviews, which might be their only point, but
they're making no new suspect that may be, but go on,
they're making no news, So it would seem that their
goal is to not f up. Their only goal is
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to get out of there without doing damage, which is
a hell of a way to be a candidate. I
can't think of any winning candidates that have done that.
Maybe Joe Biden, but that was that weird COVID year,
so it was slightly different. I'm not sure it would
have worked if it hadn't been for COVID. Well, he
had that convenient excuse.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, okay, So he was never peppered with the why
don't you talk to anybody who's gonna ask you any
hard questions? Because eventually I think journalists will get there.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Trump asked answers questions, hard questions all the time. Obama,
did Bush? Did Clinton?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Did?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
They go on these shows and they would make news,
they'd say things, they'd promote their thing. She is in
full prevent for corners defense all the time, which is
really interesting. And then again, what Mark Alpern wrote today
was and he was mystified as to why she didn't
take these opportunities to separate herself when asked both on
(05:08):
the View and on Colbert. If these were prepared answers
on which she executed, heaven helped Wilmington. That's the home base,
that's where her campaign is based out of. If these
were ad libbed answers, heaven help Wilmington. Either way. If
this was your strategy, oh my god. If this was
not your strategy, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
If you gave us ten minutes to sit in a
room and come up with half a dozen plausible, sexy
answers to that question, I'm confident I could do it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I could certainly come up with three or four.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I was out trying.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I would start with, well, if you haven't spent four
years at a job and not learned something, you're not
doing it right. And here's what we've learned. And then yeah,
you know, I had a couple of things makes.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Exactly or even I mean, this is unfair, but it
just popped into my head. One thing I would change
is we had believed Republicans would work with us on
securing the border, and they didn't. In fact, just as
we were at a deal, they backed out of it.
That's why we had all those millions of people pour
across the border. So one thing I've learned is don't
trust the Republicans to be bipartisan. I mean, that's unfair,
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it's bull crap, it's dishonest, but at least it's an answer.
I mean, yeah, God helped Wilmington. She's utterly incapable of
even the most hackneyed stock political you know, buckets of
bull crap.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, her first swing added on the View yesterday was
this one.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than
President Biden during the past four years.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
There is not a thing that comes to mind in
terms of and I've been a part of most of
the decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So that is incredible. Yeah, that is incredible. There's not
a thing that comes to mind. So again, they either
went over this because this is an obvious one. I mean,
this is absolutely an obvious question. So they either had
not thought of it, which means they're it's malpractice, or
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they did and she's incompletely incapable of remembering what our
answer was right. Those are your only two choices, I think.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And it's not that she was unable to come up
with something on the fly, because again, it's such an
obvious question, you'd have to be prepared for it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, I think there are only two options. They didn't prepare,
which would be crazy. They did prepare and she couldn't
remember it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Or even something like, well, remember when we took office,
it was still the time of the pandemic, and so
obviously our policies were tailored towarding pandemic time when the
economy is struggling. Now that we have gotten inflation under control,
we're going to be much more growth oriented anything like that.
And instead, I can't think of anything.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, that's a terrible, terrible answer. So back to Colbert.
So last time in Colbert she's asked the question again,
she basically says, no, I can't think of anything, and
then she goes into this is this is classic Kamala
Harris right here. And so when we.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Think about the significance of what this next generation of
leadership looks like were I to be elected president, it
is about Frankly, I love the American people, and I
believe in our country. I love that it is our
character and nature to be an ambitious people. You know,
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we have aspirations, we have dreams, are we have incredible
work ethic and I just believe that we can create
and build upon the success we've achieved in a way
that we continue to grow opportunity and in that way
grow the strength of our nation. So, for example, my
economic policy is I think of it and I have
(09:01):
named it as creating an opportunity economy.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Man, I believe Americans have maps. Uh yeah, got her
fallback of the Look, this is a country where I
believe in the aspirations and people have dreams.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And wow, boy, that was that was some vapid garbage.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
If she wins, which right now it is a coin flip.
If she wins, uh, we'll never hear this stuff. But
if she loses, people will start pointing fingers and we'll
hear pretty quickly. Yeah. We coached her up like crazy,
and she would She couldn't answer, She couldn't remember anything
or something, right.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You know, we we have aspirations, we have dreams.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, what you don't have is like well structured sentences.
A if she wins and and cracks up, and I
am not rooting for that because it would be terrible
for the country. Then the knives are really, really really
going to come out. But yeah, I would be delighted
if she were to lose. Well, roll the dice with Trump.
But I want to hear the campaign insider say it
(10:17):
was like trying to train to talk, to drive a car.
I mean, we just knew we were doomed from the start.
We did our best.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh, I'd be thing to say.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's what I'm I'm telling you now on a totally
different topic, speaking of the media, Thank god.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That is that is I just it's amazing. It's amazing. Anyways,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So we were talking about the CBS story in both
Hours two and three where Tony Decouple dared to ask
some difficult questions of ton of easy Coats about his
new book, and the woke CBS newspeople freaked out about
it because she showed bias. The fact that he asked
difficult questions of a liberal showed bias, when CBS is
(11:07):
just absolutely stemmed to stern packed full of bias.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
In digging into.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
This through multiple sources in the audio we came up
with and the rest of it, I'd missed one aspect
of it. One CBS reporter Jan Crawford, who's been their
CBS chief Legal correspondent since two thousand and nine, which
she said, I am now a huge Jan Crawford fan.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh really can't wait to bring that to cool among
other things. And Tesla has just unveiled their version of
a ROBOTAXI remember they're the they're the ones that made
electric cars even somewhat viable. Maybe they'll make robo because
the whole training dogs thing didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Weird.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
They getting weird fast. Stay here. I will read the
new Bob Woodword book, which comes out in five days.
I think jd Vance told me he was a hack.
I won't read it. He's definitely not a hack. The
hack thing that happens with Bob Woodward books is the
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leaks that come out to promote it, which are always
very misrepresentative respirat. They don't represent well the book in
its totality when it comes out. But probably talk more
about that when the book does come out next week. Also,
Benjamin Netton, Yahoo, who Joe Biden. That's that's interesting they're
talking today. So one of the blurbs from the new
(12:29):
Woodward book is that behind the scenes. Biden calls Net
and Yahoo regularly that effing a hole refers to him,
so does not like a liar, although I think Benjamin
Natanya was probably fairly thick skinned for a variety of reasons.
Oh yeah, as all politicians are. But they're going to
speak together for the first time in weeks, Biden and
(12:50):
Net and Yahoo as Israel tries to figure out to
what extent they're going to attack Iran's I'm sure that
will be one of the topics came across this. There's
a big Tesla event tomorrow. Elon Musk gonna announce a
few new things to his regular cars, and then also
the cyber Cab, which is going to be a vehicle
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that they deploy sometime between the next month and the
next year. They're not exactly sure how long it'll take
the roll out, but it's like we've heard of some
of these other self driving cars and a new version
of that, the cyber cab. He has also brought up
the possibility of Tesla owners letting their cars run as
robotaxis when they're not in use. I don't feel like
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I'm going to like when I'm in sleep at night,
gonna let my car be running around town with drunk
college kids in it. Get ready to hose that thing out, man,
get in it in the morning, and there's pizza boxes
and vomit and you know, Lord Musk, if you know
what I mean. No, uh so, I don't know. I
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just I do not see this ever happening. I really don't,
at least not for a very long time, any sort
of robotaxi thing where there are no human beings involved
just because of vandalism. I don't see how you get
around that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, and robberies and that sort of thing, as we
discussed yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I just don't know that there is a way to
circumvent evil people, and everything human beings do must be
designed to circumvent evil people. We've got a couple of
stories we haven't gotten to on that, just the how
the online community is coaching everybody on how to rip
off stores on fake returns, and how that's billions and
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billions of dollars. I have another one about the rampant
fraud going on to New York City now with the
mobs and the various ethnic gangs and faking up accidents
because it's a no fault insurance state, and they're ripping
off the insurance companies so much the insurance company is
going to pull out of New York City completely. All
human systems and politics must be designed to recognize.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
There are evil doers and predators.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Among us, and anybody who thinks otherwise, and they can
just they only do it because they're poor, or this
set because they're the wrong race, or that's the only
reason there's crime, and.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You're a fool and an idiot. Yeah, And it would
seem that many of us will indulge our worst impulses
if we can get away with it to an extent,
we might not even realize ourselves. Luckily, I haven't been
put in that situation to fully realize what I might
be willing to do. If nobody was watching her, I
couldn't get caught, but plenty of people will. Yeah, And
(15:45):
like you said, everything's got to be built around that
element of human nature. Video here on the New York Post.
New York Post is where you go to for sometimes
really great journalism, some amazing opinion pieces, and the dumbest
of clickbait stories like they fired me because I'm too hot.
You know, lots of.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Those They said, my preasts are too big to be
a flight attendant.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Right, well, jeez, she must have enormous press. Then I
better click on this story. Don't do it, you moron.
Here's one video shows drunk dad dragged under car while
allegedly teaching nine year old son how to drive, and
they've got a video. I haven't watched it yet because
I gotta watch a commercial. It's too long. You're drunk
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showing your nine year old how to drive. And it's
not out in the country like my kids were driving
when they were nine on our farm. Absolutely, thank you're
call in the county. But his nine year old and
it's into like a suburban street and he's hammered and
he ends up underneath the car.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
This is that's really a terrible idea, numb nut. So
one CBS staffer stood up like a hero and protested
against the woke onslaught against poor Tony Dicoppel. Her heroic
speech coming up next, love It.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
We will still, I want to be clear, We will
still ask tough questions. We will still hold people accountable.
That's part of our job too, but we will do
so objectively and that means very plain, we have to
check up bias and opinions at the door, and that
applies to every single point. We are not here to
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represent any viewpoint. We are here to tell stories and
I say this a lot. We are here to report
news without fear or faith.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That is Adrian Rourke, who's one of the higher ups
at CBS News, lecturing the whole news crew on not
having bias because a conservative dared to ask some difficult
questions of a progressive author and everybody freaked out.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
It is utterly hilarious.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It is expository, meaning they've exposed themselves. It's frustrating because
she sounds sincere.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Right, which leads me to believe that all this bias
that we're seeing, especially around these debates, is they believe
they're being fair. They think they're being fair moderators and
treating both sides equally. It's just a one side's evil
and one side's good, so we don't need to fact
check them. They actually believe it. No, no my sides
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telling the truth. What would I fact check?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That guy's lying all the time, And especially in the
wake of CBS editing Kamala Harrison, the the unforgivable one
sided moderation of the VEEP debate the other day, and
just CBS has leaned to the left for years and
years and years and years, the idea that she would
be bellowing and demanding no bias here in the wake
(18:58):
of again some difficult but fair questions being asked of a.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Progressive It's just it's just pathetic, it's just sad and on.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
During this one sided onslaught, though, Jan Crawford, who's been
the CBS chief Legal correspondent since nine actually was like
the one person or one of very few to rush
to Tony da Couple's that's the journalist and question who
ask the tough questions of tin of easy coats. Uh,
she rushed to the couple's defense, and uh, we'll start
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with one O seven Michael.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
So I guess we're.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
It sounds like we're calling out one of our anchors
in a somewhat public setting on this call for failing
to meet editorial standards. I'm not even sure what. I
don't understand how Tony's interview or any of his comments
that he's made with anchors failed to, you know, meet
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our editorial standards that obviously go back to the days
of Murrow and you know Cronkite, which, of course I
thought our commitment was too truth. And when someone comes
on our air with a one sided account of a
very complex situation, as Cost himself acknowledges that he has,
it's my understanding that as a journalist we are obligated
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to challenge that worldview so that our viewers can have
that access to the truth or a fuller account, a
more balanced account. And to me, that is what Tony did.
He challenged Coast his worldview, his one sided worldview. Coast
got to respond, it was civil.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I mean, I'd have.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
To look this up. I don't know if I'm quoting
it exactly, but I read the Washington Post and they
said it was calm, and you know, artfelt. I think
those are the words they used.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
To a great extent. It's such an age thing. I'm
guessing Jane Crawford because she's been at CBS like mine,
tire following CBS News life, she's probably roughly my age,
in her fifties. I'm guessing it's just that people that
have been around long enough to remember when no our
goal is to try to be somewhat fair and just
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to get to the truth. And then there's the new
crowd that thinks, no, no, no, our goal is to out
the evil side and protect our side. And there's just
that division there age wise, and I would guess that
Jan Crawford didn't do her career any favors there by
standing up for the old version.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
God bless her, though she can walk away with her
chin up and her integrity. Intact, let's say hear more
from Jan.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I don't see how we can say that failed to
meet our Edit Royal standards.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I mean, I thought our.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Edit Royal standards focused on and when we announced this
in a public setting, which I understand, you say you've
addressed it with Tony, I don't know what that even means.
But you know, it's when we fail to or when
we broadcast false information or we adequate, you know, don't
adequately verify something, which we have done in the past,
and we've acknowledged that. But here I think Tony did
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the opposite. He prevented a one sided account from being
broadcast on our network about a deeply complex, as you said,
situation that you know completely was devoid of history or fact.
And as journalists, it seems to me, that's what we
have an obligation to do. And as someone that does
a lot of interviews, including on controversial topics with public figures,
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you know, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Really sure now how.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
To proceed in challenging the viewpoints that are obviously one
sided and devoid of your history.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Don't is what they're saying. I'm sorry, old lady. I
looked it up. She's exactly our age. Sorry, old lady,
times have changed. You're talking about a prior era, which
isn't even that long ago. But times have changed. You're
not supposed to challenge a one sided point of view
if it's the same point of view that the network has.
That's not your joby.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
We will be biased all day long until a conservative
actually asks a progressive hard questions. Then we will yell
about how we have no bias. It is the official policy.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
It's something to watch that that liberals my whole life.
Like Bill Maher, Matt Tayebi, who we quote all the time,
who's also in his fifties. Jan Crawford there, who I've
always was. She was a left leaning journalist. For me,
my whole life is now standing up. For wait a second,
we're not supposed to let somebody be completely one sided.
But man, it's interesting how much things have changed so quickly.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Now. Given Adrian Rourke, the News had there given her
very framing of the discussion, everything she said, the way
she described the issues, and their standards and what biases
and their duty to their viewers.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And everything she said.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Jan Crawford took on the argument on those terms and
to me is winning its hands down. You'll notice the
interesting twist at the end of this final clip.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I don't understand how we can say that violated CBS
News is editorial standards, and I don't understand if that's
the case, what is the objective standard for the rest
of us when we're doing our own interviews. Again, like
I said, I'm trying to just process this, so I
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appreciate you speaking of I appreciate you bringing all this up,
and as I said, I know that this is a
lot for.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Everybody to process. No, it's not thing.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
What I want to do is talk to you personally
after this, just in the interest of letting everybody get
get get you on the editorial and knowing what today is.
I'll call you right after this, or I just can
jump off and call you now, no, I mean, we
have news to get through. It is a very important day.
I mean I know I didn't was not aware that
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people had reached out to you or Wendy. I wish
that I had to say a great job, Tony or
you know, way to not allow a one sited account
on a deeply complex issue be presented on our network,
which is a disservice to our viewers. I didn't know
that that was something I needed to do, but Jef,
I would very much welcome the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
To have that conversation. Thank you. We will have that
right after this.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Persolutely on industry source said Crawford has quote balls of
steel and as one of the most respected journalists that CBS.
He added, it's disgraceful that management chose not to answer
her question in front of the whole group on the call.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Unless you are turning the page toward the new journalism,
which is about advocacy, You choose a side and you
advocate advocate for it. That's your job. And I don't
know if that manager bel leaves that, but I think
she believes all of her young people believe it. And
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yet she, as I said, she framed the entire thing
with the traditional ethics.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, and then when Jan Crawford said, well the traditional
ethics Tony fulfilled in spades four stars.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think, well we should talk privately. I see the
conundrum there. I guess you can't say it out loud.
So it is the new journalism that may take over.
Maybe already has most places. But maybe you can't take
a good decisions, son, but maybe you can't say it
out loud. Hanson just said in my ear that manager
is seething right now. Yeah. When a manager says to you,
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let's have this conversation afterwards in private, they're probably very
unhappy that you will.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Because you've exposed me as a lying hypocrite, right and
you've exposed me as somebody not only a hypocrite, but
is in violation of the very principles I'm spouting at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I think this is fascinating. It's happened at the Washington Post,
It's happened in the New York Times. You're hearing it,
getting to hear it at CBS News. Who's gonna win out?
Is it gonna be the no journalism is supposed to
get to the truth, or is journalism supposed to advocate
for a position who's gonna win out in the end.
(27:23):
I don't know. I don't like our chances. I just
want to I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Is there a GoFundMe for jan Crawford or can I
kiss her or give her a high five or a
buy stock or something. I just I so appreciate her
courage and eloquence in defense of the very freaking principles.
Do you think MAYBELD Adrian Rourke was droning on about, well,
we get an interesting text from somebody said, you guys
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obviously have never been managers of large groups of people.
What that person is trying to do is deal with
a very hostile set of employees underneath her, and you know,
figure out a way to get them to work together. Okay,
maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
It seemed like on this particular topic, you got to
choose a side, you got to choose a direction. You
can't there's no bringing it together. You're either going to
do journalism the way it's always been or at least
for the last seventy five years, or not. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I would say to that person, I see your point,
and I appreciate it. I get what you're trying to
say you have to calm things down before you solve problems.
But I don't believe that Ms Rourke was actually trying
to do that. I think she was giving into the
worst impulses of her mob of you know, woke employees
(28:47):
are going to burn the place to the ground. You can't.
At some point you have to make a stand. Although
again your point is well taken.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So do you think Jan Crawford doesn't know that, For instance,
Columbia Journalism School, maybe the most respected journalism school in America,
has decided that advocacy journalism is the new way.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, I think I think she's one hundred percent acquainted
with it, like I said, and that was that was
the reason I went to Pains to point out that
she used the very principles the Miss Rourke was expressing.
She met her with her own verbiage and challenged her.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Why do you think, why do you think the boss
didn't say it, doesn't say it out loud? Why do
you think places don't say it out loud? Well, if
that is the direction journalism is going, advocacy journalism, and
the young people want it that way. Just because you
think you'd turn off everybody over the age of forty five.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Well, keeping in mind the contribution of the texture there
we were taking Adrian and Rourke at a word that
she thinks she's being unbiased. I think that person's point
was she was just trying to defuse the young man
acts well and Gail although Gail King she's friends with
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Coats and a far lefty and a racialist activist and
the rest of it. I think it wasn't just young
woke staffers. I think it was the very liberal heavyweights
of CBS News who are on the war path, and
she's It could be Rourke knew she was threading an
(30:26):
impossible needle, but was just trying to diffuse the anger
of the lefty.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Heavyweights because she had no other choice.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
She couldn't win that fight. I don't know yet.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'm disturbed by the state of mainstream journalism. Everything woke
turns to Now. A lot of you would say, oh,
who cares. I don't read the New York Times, I
don't watch CBS Evening News. I get all my news
from And then you would name a bunch of things
I've probably never even heard of. Sure, but I don't
know if that's gonna work force where everybody's got their
own sources. You don't know if that's going to work.
(30:57):
I don't. As I've often said, we'll all find out together. Yeah,
we will. We'll finish strong next The hurricane still has
a possibility to be a major factor in the presidential election,
depending how the relief efforts continue in North Carolina and
Georgia and Tennessee, and also with Milton Barren down on Florida.
(31:23):
The mayor there in Tampa, who yesterday said if you stay,
you're gonna die, today said, if you plan to ride
out the hurricane, that's a coffin you're in in your home.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Well, finding a new way to express it. Okay, I
guess so. So he's probably damn close to right, given
the predicted storm surge.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, I haven't been paying that close attention. I don't know.
There are many examples, I think when they have asked
for these evacuations, I've always thought I'd stay, depending on
my lifestyle. If I got kids would be a different
calculation than if I'm by myself and all that sort.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Of stuff, and you're eleven cats, of course, to protect them.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Milton expected to hit Florida with so much force. It
could change forever the coastline of Florida. Uh, the world's
worst influencer. This is a woman refusing to evacuate before
the hurricane who says she's okay with dying. Okay, nice,
I'm gonna hit tonight the hurricane is in.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Go an hour inland and stay at the Holiday Inn.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Instead of dying. I don't think you could. At this point,
every hotel room is booked or closed. They have their
Tropicana field where the baseball team plays. It's full of cots.
Is it up high enough to not have the water
come in here? I suppose hard getting in the stadium.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I think I'd walk into the Holiday and knock on
every door, say hey, do you have two beds in there?
I'll give you two hundred bucks to let me sleep
here tonight. I'm a nice fella. A good conversation, you mean, like,
what do you want to talk about the room that
people are already in?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yes, you're just gonna hope they like the looks together.
Hi'd eyeball them as well. Sure the wife thinks you're
hot or something.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Be sleeping on a cottona stadium.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Almost finish, Let's get ready final thoughts with Armstrong and Getty.
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Gimmy, let's get a final thought from everybody on the
crew to wrap up the day. Michaelangelo or technical director
lead us off my yeah very quickly.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
How many TikTok videos are we going to see?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
If people trying to write out Milton or you know,
try to get followers that way.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I don't know if this one's gonna be one of those.
I don't think it is. Now.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Let's Darwin at work. Katie Greener is seemed to use
woman as a final thought.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Katie, I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
The image of you going door to door to holiday
and asking if you could sleep in people's rooms.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Just made me laugh so hard. Mind if I sleep
with your family? Yeah, I got an extra buff kid.
It's a family of four. I'm gonna say, hey, sorry
to Boby. I'll move on. Ye just looking for place
to sleep? Jack final thought, I haven't heard it yet.
Howard Stern gushes over Kamala Harrison interview and laments SNL
making fun of her. Okay, fine, Stern.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
The great rebel, the great non follower of rules, is
now just a boot licking lackey of Jopy dishonest politicians.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Didn't think I'd see that day, Armstrong and Getty wrare
I pick up another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So many people would think, so little time. Go to
armstrong in giddy dot com. A lot of great hot
links there for you to read. Watch et Cetera drop
his note mail bag at armstrong giddy dot com, Florida.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Good luck, see you tomorrow. God bless America. I'm Strong
and Getty.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
It's one hundred on the crazy meter, even the particular
field and particularly of harsh attacks.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
We have aspirations, we have dreams, and I say this
a lot. So let's go with the bine. You just
put on the full clown outfit. Put on the.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Red shoes, put on the nose of the wig, and
the weird jumpsuit.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Clowns wear wear pants, clowns fit. Thanks all very much,
Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yedty. Good evening.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It has been a tradition here at the Late Show
since yesterday that the major party candidates sit down with
me for an interview. In October, we invited Kamala Harris
to be our guest this evening, and she accepted that
interview in a moment. In the interest of fairness, we
also invited former President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
To go himself. He declined. Our author show the Wow.
Michael mentioned before the show we should hear the opening
of Stephen Colbert last night, who had Kamala Harrison as
the guest. You know, for better or worse, and I
think it's for worse. This is the direction we've gone
(01:07):
with our culture, where it would have been beyond unheard
of to take that point of view as a talk
show host back in the day. You just you would
not make your preferences that open, no, because it was
seen bad for business. It was bad for business, and
I think also just seen as not the correct way
(01:29):
to do things.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You're right, it's on gentlemanly and overly aggressive and just
mean to other Americans who disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
But if you want to be successful, now, I suggest
you do what Stephen Colbert does because he gets great
ratings with that. And so that leads us to this
and the point that Kamala Harris, while doing a media
blitz outside of sixty minutes where she was pressed somewhat
certainly more than she normally gets, she's doing she's going
(01:58):
to all friendly venues. I mean only to the point
that she did Oprah Winfrey. Oprah Winfrey spoke at her convention.
She did Kristin Welker. Kristen Welker had come out and
said she endorses her. Howard Stern endorses her. She's gone
on Howard Stern. She went on the View. Of course,
the views all in love with her, and she went
on Colbert, and you just heard how Colbert handled it.
(02:19):
On The View yesterday, she was asked a question, is
there anything you would do different than what Joe Biden didn't?
She passed on that. She said no, which seems crazy.
Has the change candidate? Yes, it's crazy, And then Colbert
asked the same question last night.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Polling shows that a lot of people, especially independent voters,
really want this to be a change election, and that
they tend to break for you in terms of thinking
about change, you are a member of the president administration
under a Harris administration, what would the major changes be
and what would say the same?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Sure, well, I mean I'm obviously not Joe Biden, and
so that would be one change. But also I think
it's important to say with you know, twenty eight days ago,
I'm not Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, so she decided not to answer the question again.
We got a little more coming up here, but that
is interesting. Mark Cowpern made the point in his newsletter
that you generally you get these big opportunities to be
on big shows and get a big audience. This is
your gonna get their message out. Here's we're going to
(03:32):
score some points, move the ball down the fields. It's
an opportunity to get your message out without having to
spend a ton of money. You got all that money
that you're having to spend on advertisements to try to
say something. Here you get to say it for free.
And she had the opportunity to say something, and she
chose not to. And as he wrote yesterday, one they're
(03:52):
making no news with all these interviews, So why do them?
I mean, they're not making any news unless your only
point is to be able to say, oh, we've done
lots of interviews, which might be their only point, but
they're making no new suspect that may be, but go on,
they're making no news, So it would seem that their
goal is to not f up. Their only goal is
(04:15):
to get out of there without doing damage, which is
a hell of a way to be a candidate. I
can't think of any winning candidates that have done that.
Maybe Joe Biden, but that was that weird COVID year,
so it was slightly different. I'm not sure it would
have worked if it hadn't been for COVID. Well, he
had that convenient excuse.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, okay, So he was never peppered with the why
don't you talk to anybody who's gonna ask you any
hard questions? Because eventually I think journalists will get there.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Trump asked answers questions, hard questions all the time. Obama,
did Bush? Did Clinton?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Did?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
They go on these shows and they would make news,
they'd say things, they'd promote their thing. She is in
full prevent for corners defense all the time, which is
really interesting. And then again, what Mark Alpern wrote today
was and he was mystified as to why she didn't
take these opportunities to separate herself when asked both on
(05:08):
the View and on Colbert. If these were prepared answers
on which she executed, heaven helped Wilmington. That's the home base,
that's where her campaign is based out of. If these
were ad libbed answers, heaven help Wilmington. Either way. If
this was your strategy, oh my god. If this was
not your strategy, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
If you gave us ten minutes to sit in a
room and come up with half a dozen plausible, sexy
answers to that question, I'm confident I could do it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I could certainly come up with three or four.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I was out trying.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I would start with, well, if you haven't spent four
years at a job and not learned something, you're not
doing it right. And here's what we've learned. And then yeah,
you know, I had a couple of things makes.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Exactly or even I mean, this is unfair, but it
just popped into my head. One thing I would change
is we had believed Republicans would work with us on
securing the border, and they didn't. In fact, just as
we were at a deal, they backed out of it.
That's why we had all those millions of people pour
across the border. So one thing I've learned is don't
trust the Republicans to be bipartisan. I mean, that's unfair,
(06:17):
it's bull crap, it's dishonest, but at least it's an answer.
I mean, yeah, God helped Wilmington. She's utterly incapable of
even the most hackneyed stock political you know, buckets of
bull crap.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, her first swing added on the View yesterday was
this one.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than
President Biden during the past four years.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
There is not a thing that comes to mind in
terms of and I've been a part of most of
the decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So that is incredible. Yeah, that is incredible. There's not
a thing that comes to mind. So again, they either
went over this because this is an obvious one. I mean,
this is absolutely an obvious question. So they either had
not thought of it, which means they're it's malpractice, or
(07:15):
they did and she's incompletely incapable of remembering what our
answer was right. Those are your only two choices, I think.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And it's not that she was unable to come up
with something on the fly, because again, it's such an
obvious question, you'd have to be prepared for it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, I think there are only two options. They didn't prepare,
which would be crazy. They did prepare and she couldn't
remember it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Or even something like, well, remember when we took office,
it was still the time of the pandemic, and so
obviously our policies were tailored towarding pandemic time when the
economy is struggling. Now that we have gotten inflation under control,
we're going to be much more growth oriented anything like that.
And instead, I can't think of anything.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, that's a terrible, terrible answer. So back to Colbert.
So last time in Colbert she's asked the question again,
she basically says, no, I can't think of anything, and
then she goes into this is this is classic Kamala
Harris right here. And so when we.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Think about the significance of what this next generation of
leadership looks like were I to be elected president, it
is about Frankly, I love the American people, and I
believe in our country. I love that it is our
character and nature to be an ambitious people. You know,
(08:39):
we have aspirations, we have dreams, are we have incredible
work ethic and I just believe that we can create
and build upon the success we've achieved in a way
that we continue to grow opportunity and in that way
grow the strength of our nation. So, for example, my
economic policy is I think of it and I have
(09:01):
named it as creating an opportunity economy.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Man, I believe Americans have maps. Uh yeah, got her
fallback of the Look, this is a country where I
believe in the aspirations and people have dreams.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And wow, boy, that was that was some vapid garbage.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
If she wins, which right now it is a coin flip.
If she wins, uh, we'll never hear this stuff. But
if she loses, people will start pointing fingers and we'll
hear pretty quickly. Yeah. We coached her up like crazy,
and she would She couldn't answer, She couldn't remember anything
or something, right.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You know, we we have aspirations, we have dreams.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, what you don't have is like well structured sentences.
A if she wins and and cracks up, and I
am not rooting for that because it would be terrible
for the country. Then the knives are really, really really
going to come out. But yeah, I would be delighted
if she were to lose. Well, roll the dice with Trump.
But I want to hear the campaign insider say it
(10:17):
was like trying to train to talk, to drive a car.
I mean, we just knew we were doomed from the start.
We did our best.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh, I'd be thing to say.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's what I'm I'm telling you now on a totally
different topic, speaking of the media, Thank god.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That is that is I just it's amazing. It's amazing. Anyways,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So we were talking about the CBS story in both
Hours two and three where Tony Decouple dared to ask
some difficult questions of ton of easy Coats about his
new book, and the woke CBS newspeople freaked out about
it because she showed bias. The fact that he asked
difficult questions of a liberal showed bias, when CBS is
(11:07):
just absolutely stemmed to stern packed full of bias.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
In digging into.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
This through multiple sources in the audio we came up
with and the rest of it, I'd missed one aspect
of it. One CBS reporter Jan Crawford, who's been their
CBS chief Legal correspondent since two thousand and nine, which
she said, I am now a huge Jan Crawford fan.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh really can't wait to bring that to cool among
other things. And Tesla has just unveiled their version of
a ROBOTAXI remember they're the they're the ones that made
electric cars even somewhat viable. Maybe they'll make robo because
the whole training dogs thing didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Weird.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
They getting weird fast. Stay here. I will read the
new Bob Woodword book, which comes out in five days.
I think jd Vance told me he was a hack.
I won't read it. He's definitely not a hack. The
hack thing that happens with Bob Woodward books is the
(12:07):
leaks that come out to promote it, which are always
very misrepresentative respirat. They don't represent well the book in
its totality when it comes out. But probably talk more
about that when the book does come out next week. Also,
Benjamin Netton, Yahoo, who Joe Biden. That's that's interesting they're
talking today. So one of the blurbs from the new
(12:29):
Woodward book is that behind the scenes. Biden calls Net
and Yahoo regularly that effing a hole refers to him,
so does not like a liar, although I think Benjamin
Natanya was probably fairly thick skinned for a variety of reasons.
Oh yeah, as all politicians are. But they're going to
speak together for the first time in weeks, Biden and
(12:50):
Net and Yahoo as Israel tries to figure out to
what extent they're going to attack Iran's I'm sure that
will be one of the topics came across this. There's
a big Tesla event tomorrow. Elon Musk gonna announce a
few new things to his regular cars, and then also
the cyber Cab, which is going to be a vehicle
(13:13):
that they deploy sometime between the next month and the
next year. They're not exactly sure how long it'll take
the roll out, but it's like we've heard of some
of these other self driving cars and a new version
of that, the cyber cab. He has also brought up
the possibility of Tesla owners letting their cars run as
robotaxis when they're not in use. I don't feel like
(13:36):
I'm going to like when I'm in sleep at night,
gonna let my car be running around town with drunk
college kids in it. Get ready to hose that thing out, man,
get in it in the morning, and there's pizza boxes
and vomit and you know, Lord Musk, if you know
what I mean. No, uh so, I don't know. I
(13:57):
just I do not see this ever happening. I really don't,
at least not for a very long time, any sort
of robotaxi thing where there are no human beings involved
just because of vandalism. I don't see how you get
around that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, and robberies and that sort of thing, as we
discussed yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I just don't know that there is a way to
circumvent evil people, and everything human beings do must be
designed to circumvent evil people. We've got a couple of
stories we haven't gotten to on that, just the how
the online community is coaching everybody on how to rip
off stores on fake returns, and how that's billions and
(14:41):
billions of dollars. I have another one about the rampant
fraud going on to New York City now with the
mobs and the various ethnic gangs and faking up accidents
because it's a no fault insurance state, and they're ripping
off the insurance companies so much the insurance company is
going to pull out of New York City completely. All
human systems and politics must be designed to recognize.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
There are evil doers and predators.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Among us, and anybody who thinks otherwise, and they can
just they only do it because they're poor, or this
set because they're the wrong race, or that's the only
reason there's crime, and.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You're a fool and an idiot. Yeah, And it would
seem that many of us will indulge our worst impulses
if we can get away with it to an extent,
we might not even realize ourselves. Luckily, I haven't been
put in that situation to fully realize what I might
be willing to do. If nobody was watching her, I
couldn't get caught, but plenty of people will. Yeah, And
(15:45):
like you said, everything's got to be built around that
element of human nature. Video here on the New York Post.
New York Post is where you go to for sometimes
really great journalism, some amazing opinion pieces, and the dumbest
of clickbait stories like they fired me because I'm too hot.
You know, lots of.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Those They said, my preasts are too big to be
a flight attendant.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Right, well, jeez, she must have enormous press. Then I
better click on this story. Don't do it, you moron.
Here's one video shows drunk dad dragged under car while
allegedly teaching nine year old son how to drive, and
they've got a video. I haven't watched it yet because
I gotta watch a commercial. It's too long. You're drunk
(16:28):
showing your nine year old how to drive. And it's
not out in the country like my kids were driving
when they were nine on our farm. Absolutely, thank you're
call in the county. But his nine year old and
it's into like a suburban street and he's hammered and
he ends up underneath the car.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
This is that's really a terrible idea, numb nut. So
one CBS staffer stood up like a hero and protested
against the woke onslaught against poor Tony Dicoppel. Her heroic
speech coming up next, love It.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
We will still, I want to be clear, We will
still ask tough questions. We will still hold people accountable.
That's part of our job too, but we will do
so objectively and that means very plain, we have to
check up bias and opinions at the door, and that
applies to every single point. We are not here to
(17:31):
represent any viewpoint. We are here to tell stories and
I say this a lot. We are here to report
news without fear or faith.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That is Adrian Rourke, who's one of the higher ups
at CBS News, lecturing the whole news crew on not
having bias because a conservative dared to ask some difficult
questions of a progressive author and everybody freaked out.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
It is utterly hilarious.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It is expository, meaning they've exposed themselves. It's frustrating because
she sounds sincere.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Right, which leads me to believe that all this bias
that we're seeing, especially around these debates, is they believe
they're being fair. They think they're being fair moderators and
treating both sides equally. It's just a one side's evil
and one side's good, so we don't need to fact
check them. They actually believe it. No, no my sides
(18:35):
telling the truth. What would I fact check?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That guy's lying all the time, And especially in the
wake of CBS editing Kamala Harrison, the the unforgivable one
sided moderation of the VEEP debate the other day, and
just CBS has leaned to the left for years and
years and years and years, the idea that she would
be bellowing and demanding no bias here in the wake
(18:58):
of again some difficult but fair questions being asked of a.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Progressive It's just it's just pathetic, it's just sad and on.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
During this one sided onslaught, though, Jan Crawford, who's been
the CBS chief Legal correspondent since nine actually was like
the one person or one of very few to rush
to Tony da Couple's that's the journalist and question who
ask the tough questions of tin of easy coats. Uh,
she rushed to the couple's defense, and uh, we'll start
(19:31):
with one O seven Michael.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
So I guess we're.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
It sounds like we're calling out one of our anchors
in a somewhat public setting on this call for failing
to meet editorial standards. I'm not even sure what. I
don't understand how Tony's interview or any of his comments
that he's made with anchors failed to, you know, meet
(19:57):
our editorial standards that obviously go back to the days
of Murrow and you know Cronkite, which, of course I
thought our commitment was too truth. And when someone comes
on our air with a one sided account of a
very complex situation, as Cost himself acknowledges that he has,
it's my understanding that as a journalist we are obligated
(20:19):
to challenge that worldview so that our viewers can have
that access to the truth or a fuller account, a
more balanced account. And to me, that is what Tony did.
He challenged Coast his worldview, his one sided worldview. Coast
got to respond, it was civil.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I mean, I'd have.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
To look this up. I don't know if I'm quoting
it exactly, but I read the Washington Post and they
said it was calm, and you know, artfelt. I think
those are the words they used.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
To a great extent. It's such an age thing. I'm
guessing Jane Crawford because she's been at CBS like mine,
tire following CBS News life, she's probably roughly my age,
in her fifties. I'm guessing it's just that people that
have been around long enough to remember when no our
goal is to try to be somewhat fair and just
(21:12):
to get to the truth. And then there's the new
crowd that thinks, no, no, no, our goal is to out
the evil side and protect our side. And there's just
that division there age wise, and I would guess that
Jan Crawford didn't do her career any favors there by
standing up for the old version.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
God bless her, though she can walk away with her
chin up and her integrity. Intact, let's say hear more
from Jan.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I don't see how we can say that failed to
meet our Edit Royal standards.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I mean, I thought our.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Edit Royal standards focused on and when we announced this
in a public setting, which I understand, you say you've
addressed it with Tony, I don't know what that even means.
But you know, it's when we fail to or when
we broadcast false information or we adequate, you know, don't
adequately verify something, which we have done in the past,
and we've acknowledged that. But here I think Tony did
(22:10):
the opposite. He prevented a one sided account from being
broadcast on our network about a deeply complex, as you said,
situation that you know completely was devoid of history or fact.
And as journalists, it seems to me, that's what we
have an obligation to do. And as someone that does
a lot of interviews, including on controversial topics with public figures,
(22:33):
you know, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Really sure now how.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
To proceed in challenging the viewpoints that are obviously one
sided and devoid of your history.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Don't is what they're saying. I'm sorry, old lady. I
looked it up. She's exactly our age. Sorry, old lady,
times have changed. You're talking about a prior era, which
isn't even that long ago. But times have changed. You're
not supposed to challenge a one sided point of view
if it's the same point of view that the network has.
That's not your joby.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
We will be biased all day long until a conservative
actually asks a progressive hard questions. Then we will yell
about how we have no bias. It is the official policy.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
It's something to watch that that liberals my whole life.
Like Bill Maher, Matt Tayebi, who we quote all the time,
who's also in his fifties. Jan Crawford there, who I've
always was. She was a left leaning journalist. For me,
my whole life is now standing up. For wait a second,
we're not supposed to let somebody be completely one sided.
But man, it's interesting how much things have changed so quickly.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Now. Given Adrian Rourke, the News had there given her
very framing of the discussion, everything she said, the way
she described the issues, and their standards and what biases
and their duty to their viewers.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And everything she said.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Jan Crawford took on the argument on those terms and
to me is winning its hands down. You'll notice the
interesting twist at the end of this final clip.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I don't understand how we can say that violated CBS
News is editorial standards, and I don't understand if that's
the case, what is the objective standard for the rest
of us when we're doing our own interviews. Again, like
I said, I'm trying to just process this, so I
(24:33):
appreciate you speaking of I appreciate you bringing all this up,
and as I said, I know that this is a
lot for.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Everybody to process. No, it's not thing.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
What I want to do is talk to you personally
after this, just in the interest of letting everybody get
get get you on the editorial and knowing what today is.
I'll call you right after this, or I just can
jump off and call you now, no, I mean, we
have news to get through. It is a very important day.
I mean I know I didn't was not aware that
(25:04):
people had reached out to you or Wendy. I wish
that I had to say a great job, Tony or
you know, way to not allow a one sited account
on a deeply complex issue be presented on our network,
which is a disservice to our viewers. I didn't know
that that was something I needed to do, but Jef,
I would very much welcome the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
To have that conversation. Thank you. We will have that
right after this.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Persolutely on industry source said Crawford has quote balls of
steel and as one of the most respected journalists that CBS.
He added, it's disgraceful that management chose not to answer
her question in front of the whole group on the call.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Unless you are turning the page toward the new journalism,
which is about advocacy, You choose a side and you
advocate advocate for it. That's your job. And I don't
know if that manager bel leaves that, but I think
she believes all of her young people believe it. And
(26:05):
yet she, as I said, she framed the entire thing
with the traditional ethics.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, and then when Jan Crawford said, well the traditional
ethics Tony fulfilled in spades four stars.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think, well we should talk privately. I see the
conundrum there. I guess you can't say it out loud.
So it is the new journalism that may take over.
Maybe already has most places. But maybe you can't take
a good decisions, son, but maybe you can't say it
out loud. Hanson just said in my ear that manager
is seething right now. Yeah. When a manager says to you,
(26:42):
let's have this conversation afterwards in private, they're probably very
unhappy that you will.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Because you've exposed me as a lying hypocrite, right and
you've exposed me as somebody not only a hypocrite, but
is in violation of the very principles I'm spouting at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I think this is fascinating. It's happened at the Washington Post,
It's happened in the New York Times. You're hearing it,
getting to hear it at CBS News. Who's gonna win out?
Is it gonna be the no journalism is supposed to
get to the truth, or is journalism supposed to advocate
for a position who's gonna win out in the end.
(27:23):
I don't know. I don't like our chances. I just
want to I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Is there a GoFundMe for jan Crawford or can I
kiss her or give her a high five or a
buy stock or something. I just I so appreciate her
courage and eloquence in defense of the very freaking principles.
Do you think MAYBELD Adrian Rourke was droning on about, well,
we get an interesting text from somebody said, you guys
(27:51):
obviously have never been managers of large groups of people.
What that person is trying to do is deal with
a very hostile set of employees underneath her, and you know,
figure out a way to get them to work together. Okay,
maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
It seemed like on this particular topic, you got to
choose a side, you got to choose a direction. You
can't there's no bringing it together. You're either going to
do journalism the way it's always been or at least
for the last seventy five years, or not. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I would say to that person, I see your point,
and I appreciate it. I get what you're trying to
say you have to calm things down before you solve problems.
But I don't believe that Ms Rourke was actually trying
to do that. I think she was giving into the
worst impulses of her mob of you know, woke employees
(28:47):
are going to burn the place to the ground. You can't.
At some point you have to make a stand. Although
again your point is well taken.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So do you think Jan Crawford doesn't know that, For instance,
Columbia Journalism School, maybe the most respected journalism school in America,
has decided that advocacy journalism is the new way.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, I think I think she's one hundred percent acquainted
with it, like I said, and that was that was
the reason I went to Pains to point out that
she used the very principles the Miss Rourke was expressing.
She met her with her own verbiage and challenged her.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Why do you think, why do you think the boss
didn't say it, doesn't say it out loud? Why do
you think places don't say it out loud? Well, if
that is the direction journalism is going, advocacy journalism, and
the young people want it that way. Just because you
think you'd turn off everybody over the age of forty five.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Well, keeping in mind the contribution of the texture there
we were taking Adrian and Rourke at a word that
she thinks she's being unbiased. I think that person's point
was she was just trying to defuse the young man
acts well and Gail although Gail King she's friends with
(30:06):
Coats and a far lefty and a racialist activist and
the rest of it. I think it wasn't just young
woke staffers. I think it was the very liberal heavyweights
of CBS News who are on the war path, and
she's It could be Rourke knew she was threading an
(30:26):
impossible needle, but was just trying to diffuse the anger
of the lefty.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Heavyweights because she had no other choice.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
She couldn't win that fight. I don't know yet.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'm disturbed by the state of mainstream journalism. Everything woke
turns to Now. A lot of you would say, oh,
who cares. I don't read the New York Times, I
don't watch CBS Evening News. I get all my news
from And then you would name a bunch of things
I've probably never even heard of. Sure, but I don't
know if that's gonna work force where everybody's got their
own sources. You don't know if that's going to work.
(30:57):
I don't. As I've often said, we'll all find out together. Yeah,
we will. We'll finish strong next The hurricane still has
a possibility to be a major factor in the presidential election,
depending how the relief efforts continue in North Carolina and
Georgia and Tennessee, and also with Milton Barren down on Florida.
(31:23):
The mayor there in Tampa, who yesterday said if you stay,
you're gonna die, today said, if you plan to ride
out the hurricane, that's a coffin you're in in your home.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Well, finding a new way to express it. Okay, I
guess so. So he's probably damn close to right, given
the predicted storm surge.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, I haven't been paying that close attention. I don't know.
There are many examples, I think when they have asked
for these evacuations, I've always thought I'd stay, depending on
my lifestyle. If I got kids would be a different
calculation than if I'm by myself and all that sort.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Of stuff, and you're eleven cats, of course, to protect them.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Milton expected to hit Florida with so much force. It
could change forever the coastline of Florida. Uh, the world's
worst influencer. This is a woman refusing to evacuate before
the hurricane who says she's okay with dying. Okay, nice,
I'm gonna hit tonight the hurricane is in.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Go an hour inland and stay at the Holiday Inn.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Instead of dying. I don't think you could. At this point,
every hotel room is booked or closed. They have their
Tropicana field where the baseball team plays. It's full of cots.
Is it up high enough to not have the water
come in here? I suppose hard getting in the stadium.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I think I'd walk into the Holiday and knock on
every door, say hey, do you have two beds in there?
I'll give you two hundred bucks to let me sleep
here tonight. I'm a nice fella. A good conversation, you mean, like,
what do you want to talk about the room that
people are already in?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yes, you're just gonna hope they like the looks together.
Hi'd eyeball them as well. Sure the wife thinks you're
hot or something.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Be sleeping on a cottona stadium.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Almost finish, Let's get ready final thoughts with Armstrong and Getty.
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Gimmy, let's get a final thought from everybody on the
crew to wrap up the day. Michaelangelo or technical director
lead us off my yeah very quickly.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
How many TikTok videos are we going to see?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
If people trying to write out Milton or you know,
try to get followers that way.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I don't know if this one's gonna be one of those.
I don't think it is. Now.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Let's Darwin at work. Katie Greener is seemed to use
woman as a final thought.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Katie, I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
The image of you going door to door to holiday
and asking if you could sleep in people's rooms.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Just made me laugh so hard. Mind if I sleep
with your family? Yeah, I got an extra buff kid.
It's a family of four. I'm gonna say, hey, sorry
to Boby. I'll move on. Ye just looking for place
to sleep? Jack final thought, I haven't heard it yet.
Howard Stern gushes over Kamala Harrison interview and laments SNL
making fun of her. Okay, fine, Stern.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
The great rebel, the great non follower of rules, is
now just a boot licking lackey of Jopy dishonest politicians.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Didn't think I'd see that day, Armstrong and Getty wrare
I pick up another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So many people would think, so little time. Go to
armstrong in giddy dot com. A lot of great hot
links there for you to read. Watch et Cetera drop
his note mail bag at armstrong giddy dot com, Florida.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Good luck, see you tomorrow. God bless America. I'm Strong
and Getty.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
It's one hundred on the crazy meter, even the particular
field and particularly of harsh attacks.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
We have aspirations, we have dreams, and I say this
a lot. So let's go with the bine. You just
put on the full clown outfit. Put on the.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Red shoes, put on the nose of the wig, and
the weird jumpsuit.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Clowns wear wear pants, clowns fit. Thanks all very much,
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