November 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Ai bubble, never working again & Saudi Crown Prince at the White House
- Flying Ubers
- The Epstein Files
- Ai teddy bears... a horrible idea
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Katty and he Armstrong and Hetty. The Epstein
Bill might pass unanimously today, like four point thirty five
to nothing. What's in it? We can talk about that later.
(00:31):
There's some interesting stuff in that bill that's going to
cause some problems I think for a lot of people,
and probably not fairly.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, although nobody's talking about is judicial review of various
aspects of it.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
And I don't actually know the lock.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
In the executive branch just say to the judicial branch,
no a grand jury hearing. We're going to release all
the transcripts, even though that's illegal.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We can get into that later. This stock market today,
I am, as you all know, a day trader. While
while I'm on the air during commercial breaks, I'm trading
many thousands of shares back and forth constantly up to
the minute. I'm an hourly trader. Stock market today, AI
bubble fears hit stocks for fourth day in a row.
It could be one of the great bubbles in the
(01:19):
history of bubbles, maybe the all time biggest bubble.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Who knows. We'll see eventually.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm gonna talk a little bit about AI later. As
I took in several podcasts and started in a new
book yesterday on where this all might be going. Holy crappings,
It really is quite possibly the biggest thing that has happened.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
To mankind since fire.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It really really is.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, I have a sincere question. This is not in
the least cynical. You've read and listened to a lot
and nobody seems to know the answer, but you're compelled
to read another.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Book about it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, do you feel like you're building a most absolutely
absolutely clues of where it might be? Had?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Because I was going to say, there's an aspect of
it that feels like a Super Bowl pregame show to me,
and I've listened to, you know, Coach Kauer and James
Brown and everybody talk about who might win the game
now for two and a half hours.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
A lot of it is the history of all this
and how it came to be in various directions.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And also I like it from the aspect that I think.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
My opinion is as valid as theirs or anyone else's
on this in a lot of different ways. Since people
are guessing how that's going to affect society anyway. I'll
talk about that more later. I continue to be amazed
at the super smart people who actually believe that AI
(02:54):
allowing people not to work is a good thing. That
blows my mind. I mean, you couldn't have a different
view of humanity than I do if you think that's true.
And I was listening to some people yesterday, super smart,
well educated people who think the future generations are going
to look back on our generation. Your grandchildren are going
to say to you, Grandpa, what was it like to
(03:15):
have to go do a job you didn't like every
single day and they give you like two weeks vacation.
It must have been horrible, and they think it's just
gonna be an option here it is, Well, it ain't
the greatest. I have a job I do like, but
I've worked jobs I didn't like. It ain't great.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But the idea when nobody has a job.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Or a purpose for living, that they'll be happy, I
just I don't know what makes you believe that.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know, I agree with you that those people have
an enormous, almost hilarious blind spot about the nature of humanity.
It's as if they suggest running banks on the honor system.
Oh wait, wait wait, whoa whoa whoa? Have you never
noticed that a lot of people will just take what
they can and get Oh shoot, yeah, they would say,
(04:02):
but it'd you ever notice that somebody who's completely idle
and has no purpose in their life turns to drugs
and pleasure and just falls apart as a human like
every trust fund kid you've ever known.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, that's gonna be. That's gonna be the whole country.
And we're just gonna write poetry and do deep thinking
philosophy and volunteer. That's what we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Do, and clean up the environment.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We're not just gonna lay around and get fat and
eat bad food and do drugs and gets super u
turn inward and be obsessed with all kinds.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Of crazy crap and sexual weirdness for roughly a generation
and a half, at which point we.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Die out right. That's wild to me.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I think the honor system bank might be a better ade,
No kidding. AnyWho. The President of the United States, Donald Trump,
maybe you remember him from The Apprentice, currently the president
second term. Actually, he's hosting MBS today in a near
state dinner. It's not a state dinner because NBS isn't
(05:10):
actually the leader of his country. It's some other old
guy whose brain doesn't work. Is is decrepit old dad? Right, Yeah,
but he's the facto leader. But so it's close to
state dinner. You got to use slightly different silverware and
different colored ties and whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Why is MBS here? Well, here's a little of the
report on that.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
President Trump says he plans to sell F thirty five
fighter jets to Saudi Arabia, calling the country a great ally.
Experts say the move couldn't disrupt the current balance of
military might in the Middle East, with Israel worried about
maintaining its aero superiority. This comes as the White House
prepares to welcome the Saudi Crown Prince on Tuesday. It's
the first time the Mohammed bin Salman will visit Washington
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since the twenty eighteen killing of journalist Jamal Koshogi. The
CIA believes the Crown Prince ordered that assassination, though he
has repeatedly denied any involvement.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That with all due respect to the horrors of regime
that snuffs its dissidence.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
All right, that's horrible.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Putin has killed his hundreds of thousands, hundreds of thousands,
including beautiful little children. He's kidnapped tens of thousands more
away from their parents. I could go on and on
and on, and yet he had an audience with Trump
there in Canada. Loathsome dictators and rulers get visits to
(06:30):
Washington and vice versa all the damn time. Y'all are
obsessed with Koshogi. God bless him because he was a journalist.
Joe comes out prone bone saw. Yeah, that's fair enough, barbaric.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
How much less attention when the story have gotten if
we didn't have the whole bone saw detail that got
everybody's attention.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I couldn't even tell you that was a specific kind
of saw, honestly, No, no carpenter nor butcher.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But yeah, got everybody's attention a bone saw. You say,
how come?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They had to chop him up in tiny pieces so
they could take him out of the hotel in suitcases.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Good lord, I'm not saying I approve on any level.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Anyway. Why is Trump flattering Saudi Arabia and Seldon F
thirty five's among other.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Reasons, This at the top of President Donald Trump's agenda
will be the Abraham Accords. He wants to see Saudi
Arabia join this set of agreements that normalizes relations with Israel.
It would amount to a major advancement of his signature
policy in the region. Saudi Arabia said it has set
a quote credible and irreversible pathway to Palestinian statehood as
(07:44):
a precondition, which the ceasefire President Trump Broger stops short
of providing.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So this was actually their lead story on Morning Joe
Today on MS NOW. It's called about the amazing development
that the un voted to accept the Trump Gaza Peace Plan.
I mean, this is a huge international diplomacy win for
(08:11):
the Trump crowd. The u N who hates the United
States and certainly hates Donald Trump, voted to accept the
Trump's Gaza Peace Plan. And then you got the whole
Saudi Arabia thing, and we're gonna give them at thirty
five's they're probably gonna sign on to the Abraham Accords,
and you've got at least the beginnings of some sort
(08:32):
of peace in the Middle East like has never happened. Yeah,
maybe them recognizing Israel.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Whoever thought that was gonna happen, that'd be big.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I love this headline, whereas it eh Hamasa's popularity rises
in Gaza, complicating trump plan to disarmed militants. I guess
they're like the only law and order there in Gaza
that's visible on the streets, and crime has gone crazy there.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
As the poor.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Gazan people are being victimized over and over again, and
they're just and people tend to do this. Anybody wants
to come in here and keep order, I'm in favor
of them.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, you would be too, I would be too sure.
If you can't walk out of your house without being
shot or your wife raped or your kids snatched, you'd
you'd be four isis as has happened in Iraq or
hamas has happened in Gaza.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Whoever is going to make the streets safe?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
The head the subhead rather tells you the whole story.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Many Palestinians in Gaza want the militant group to leave power,
but still welcome is crackdown on crime.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, there you have it.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
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head off. People order, and they will appreciate anybody coming
(10:03):
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Speaker 3 (10:07):
Then Bill Burr turned out to be a woke jackass.
Oh no, that was in real life character in the Mandalorian. Yeah,
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Speaker 3 (11:15):
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Speaker 2 (11:17):
I was gonna check the X line to see if
anybody commented on people dropping their I can't say it.
We had this news story young people are dropping their
teas in words, and it's kind of caught on as
just a manner of speaking. And I've noticed my high
schooler does it. He's been doing it for years, though,
so I don't know culturally when it started, but he's
(11:40):
been saying buttons and kittens for a long time and
I've never said anything about it. I actually thought maybe
it was like a little bit of a speech impediment,
but it's it's a trend.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It's a it'sn't a way affectation.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
There you go affectation.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You know, it's funny I blamed southern California earlier, and
I stand by that, at least in the mind. An
iteration iteration, but it occurs to me the grandmother iteration.
Uh my saint ed grandmother on my father's side, who
was born and raised in Hoboken, New Jersey. Uh said
button button, So that was a speech pattern back then
(12:21):
there as well.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I hated up talk when it first hit until I
remember what I was listening to and I realized, Oh
the Irish had been doing this forever. It's just their
way they do it. There went the.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Bar exploitable drum rank too much and I'm we had a.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Fight and I got kicked out and I went home
and went out.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Lady was really angry, Right, yeah, what is he going
to do?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So yeah, trends come and go. But yeah, so if
you if you anyone needs to go quickly, if you
know a young person that says buttons, it's hard for
me to even do buttons instead of you did it
wrong button butt in hit and yeah you might annoy in.
I'm having trouble with this button on my shirt trying
(13:05):
to button his sleeves.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You're what my button?
Speaker 6 (13:08):
What?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I don't know what that is, but I know the
word button. Are you pointing to your button?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Son?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
What is actually in the Epstein Transparency Act. It's a
lot and it's going to make a mess. I think
if it actually passes and gets signed in the law,
among other things, we can do this hour.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Stay hear.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
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and demonstrating around the world, including here in Dubai, in California,
and in New York.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
This is click a button and get a flight.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
A regular Uber will pick you up at your home
or office and take you to a vertiport where you're bored.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
A taxi unlike any other.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
The cabin will be air conditioned with four passenger seats.
Joby says, right will cost around the same as an
Uber Black fully electric. The taxi can go two hundred
miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I am so confused by this. Now. Obviously it would
have to be in major urban centers where they got
big airports, I guess. But so an uber pixure up
at your house takes you to your closest airport of
any kind, probably could be private airports, and you get
into some sort of flying something and for the cost
(14:32):
of an Uber black, which is not very much, it
takes across town to the next closest airport. Then you'd
have to get in another uber and go to the
actual You have to be in a place like the
size of Los Angeles or New York for it even
makes sense.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I think from my understanding from the report, these little
heliports that they were talking about their standalone structures, so
it wouldn't have to be at it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Oh okay, okay, we standywhere a helicopter can take off
in land, right makes sense? Yeah, and they're like big
oversized quad copters.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Like you know, your drone.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
But yeah, say that it was roughly roughly the size
of an suv.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
But for the cost of an Uber black. I mean,
I don't know if you ever do that, but it's
not that expensive, right Is it an electric motor?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Fully electric? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Wow? I mean if it becomes a deal where for
eighty bucks you could get clear across LA really quickly.
There maybe a lot of people doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, you got the occasional crack up, and people might
end up less alive than they are currently, but all
who might stand away in the way of progress.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Although once you have very many of them in the air,
I've been saying this the whole time, and I've never
heard anybody really address it, whether it's the drones that
Amazon's talking about using, or these air taxis or whatever.
Once you get very many of these things in the air,
who's how is that going to work out?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Ah, you can maneuver in three dimensions? How hard can
it be? You go up, they'll go down. Up, they're
going up to I'll go right, They're gone right now,
curb Lily.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I just I just can't.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I mean, maybe I lack knowledge of how they're gonna
come up with air lanes to where like you drive
on the right side and you go at this elevation
and everybody's separate, and I just can't imagine how that
would work. I'm staying on the ground, Thank you very much.
That was pretty darn cool. So MBS just arrived at
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the White House and Trump was waiting for him out there,
and NBS got a I was hoping NBS gets out
of his limo and Trump hands him a gold bone saw.
Is like a gift.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Oh, by gones, water under the bridge.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Probably not a real workable bone saw, but it's the
sort of thing you set on your desk and he
gets all right, it's a commemorative bone saw. Yeah, and
it's probably a little black on it. And NBS could
say Trump gave this to me. It's a it's a
gold bone saw to commemorate my chopping up a DISSIDENTH
my god, oh thed h, wake up, grow up, you're
(17:06):
gonna like this. I haven't read the whole interview, but
they talked to three university leaders in the New York Times.
Somebody from University of Wisconsin Madison, somebody from Dartmouth, somebody
from Wesleyan. Anyway, the dude from Dartmouth talking about the
current situation between the Trump administration and universities.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
As leaders, we lost our mission about what higher education was.
Where educational organizations were not political organizations like the RNC
and DNC. We're not even social advocacy organizations, said the
president of Dartmouth in this interview.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, I have plenty of evidence that his point of
view is just starting to blossom.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
We still have a long, enormous fight in front.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Of us, but yeah, it's encouraging that at least some
folks seem to have some grasp of sanity on campus.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Wouldn't that be great if that got turned around? Oh,
we're Our job is not to be politically active. Our
job is to learn science or math or art or
whatever you're majoring in. What might be fantastic.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, we can talk about that. Maybe hour four.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
How long and difficult that's going to be, But yeah,
it would be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
What's actually in the Epstein Transparency Act?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
A whole lot of stuff, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
As Epstein files fever continues to engulf Washington, the US
Attorney's Office in downtown Manhattan is investigating the disgraced pedophiles
ties to prominent Democrats. This is the direction of both
President Trump and Attorney General Pam Bondi. US Attorney Jay
Clayton is probing Epstein's ties to former Treasury Secretary Larry
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Summers and former President Bill Clinton, and aid for the
former president posted Bill Clinton did nothing and knew nothing.
The rest is noise meant to distract from election losses,
backfiring shutdowns, and who knows what else.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I was reading Mark Alpern's newsletter today and he said,
in Washington, d C. It is the only story for
everybody of every ilk, no matter your political affiliation or
the department you work for. The only story in DC
right now is the whole Epstein thing.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
There are three hundred and forty million people in this country,
roughly sho hans, whose life will be affected directly by
anything that happens, not one with the Epstein. There might
be fifty people, including his victims.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, yeah, some of the politicians. I mean it's affected
Larry Summers, former president of Harvard and former Treasury secretary.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
As it came to one hundred people, maybe two hundred.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It came out last week. We read these earlier. There
are emails he was soliciting dating advice from Epstein, long
after everybody knew what a Epstein was, after he been
convicted of being a creep right and Larry Summers was still, Hey,
I've got this girl, I'm mentoring what would be the
best way to get her where I want her to be?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Good judgment. Larry freaking creepy.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
So a couple of things before I get to what
the bill actually is, which is why I think this is.
I don't think it's a big deal that it will
have any effect on anybody. I think it's a big
deal in the fact that it's going to royal ar
media in politics for a little while. So well, first
of all, Trump said this yesterday.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I'm all for it. You know, we've already given fifty
thousand pages.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
You do know that. Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation,
with the Martin Luther King situation, not to put Jeffrey
Epstein in the same category.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
But no matter what we give is never enough. That's
probably going to be true. No matter what happens, there
will still be conspiracies out there, belief that stuff is
being hidden.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
One hundred percent. That's how conspiracy theories work.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, Mark Awperon said, based on everybody he's talking to,
the vote could be close to unanimous today in the House,
especially since Trump changed direction and went with yeah, vote
for it Sunday night, having wanted to try to keep
the MAGA crowd together voting against it, and he couldn't.
That's its own interesting separate story, as the Wall Street Journal,
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in The New York Times, and National Review all have
pieces out about how Maga is defying Trump now on
the Senate filibuster, on Indiana redistricting, on trade, and on
this Epstein vote.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They just say, now, we're not listening to you anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Such Kansas told them no too on the redistricting thing.
Such is the nature of being a lame duck. Now,
there was some belief, and I believed it myself, that
maybe okay, it passes the House, but then it's dead. Well,
I'm reading in the wide world of news today. John Fune,
the guy who runs the Senate, could schedule a vote
soon or put off a vote till later. But no
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one thinks, given the presidents one hundred and eighty degree
turn and support and the expected overwhelming tally in the
House today, that Fune can just bury the thing and
not take it up. There'll be too much political pressure
to take outp As a bill that change in the
wind we speculated might be coming yesterday. Will any Republican
filibuster the legislation at this point that seems unlikely in
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the extreme, especially since there's almost certainly sixty votes all
the Democrats and at least ten Republicans, and you don't
need the filibuster proof sixty seven anymore because Trump has
already said he'll sign the bill, so it's probably going
to go through the House and to send it quite easily,
and then Trump's going to let's kind of get past
the philibuster to get to the floor to be voted on.
(22:28):
So you've got that step not according to this reading here, Oh,
is that because it's a consent, will any Republican filibuster
the legislation? At this point it seems unlikely you'd have
to say I filibustered, then you need your two thirds bill.
He doesn't think anybody will, So we'll let this point.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
The Dems love it for whatever perverse reason.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Right, So it's going to go through. So what is
in the dang thing? I'll just read this first big paragraph,
and I think all of this is going to lead
to a mess of meaningless talk and chatter and interviews
and lots of people being forced to answer questions and
maybe their wives getting really angry. Or the Justice Department
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must publicly disclose all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigative materials,
including records relating to Epstein's detention and death. All flight
logs of all aircraft owned or used by Epstein, I
mean right there, all the flight logs of everything he's
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ever flown in ever is going to include a lot
of famous people that are going to have to answer
questions why did you go to the island or why
did he fly you to Vegas in July of twenty eighteen?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
George Clooney or I'm just thrown out a name, but
who at secs up? Any teenagers?
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, you'll be in a position where you have to
answer it.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
All individuals named in connection with Epstein's criminal activities throughout
his life, civil settlements that have already happened, or immunity
or plea agreements. All that stuff is going to come out.
Immunity deals, sealed settlements, plea bargains of Ebstein or his associates,
entities with ties to Epstein's trafficking and financial networks, and
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internal Justice Department communications concerning decisions to investigate or not
investigate or charge Epstein or his associates throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Of stuff, gosh, I'd say, and a lot of stuff
that is traditionally never ever released for some pretty good reasons,
you know. And now I actually wish I was a
real lawyer, because I find myself wondering, if you've got
a private agreement, a NDA non disclosure agreement, both parties
(24:41):
agreed to it, you sign it, the money changes hands, whatever,
whatever the terms were, can the federal government come in
years later and nullify it and say nope, now it's
all out.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
In the open. I have none that even a thing,
as the kids say.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I have no idea. And you've been saying for a
long time that one of the reasons this stuff shouldn't
come out is it's not fair to be who haven't
been accused of anything. But all, like I said, all
kinds of famous people's names are going to come out
of having gone to parties, flown around with Jeffrey Epstein this.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Or doesn't mean they did anything wrong or what water.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But TMZ is going to be in the face of
everybody making answer a question.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And this is so tail wagon the doggie, because you're
going to see a flurry, no, a blizzard of statements.
You know, you could mimeograph them, that's an old timey word,
and have everybody sign them. While I knew mister Epstein
briefly and traveled with him once. I never blah blah
blah signed a hundred different names, and that will satisfy
no one.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
This is also in there, and I have no idea
if this is legal or not. The Justice Department may
not withhold or redact records on the basis of embarrassment,
reputational harm, or political sensitivity.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
How about that.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Wait a second. The due process of this country now
means if I've ever been in the same building with
Jeffrey Epstein yet that's going to be released. It's got
nothing to do with nothing, and it's gonna cause embarrement, embarrassment,
reputational harm, and politicals there's political sensitive.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
But whatever it comes out, I was not part of
any investigation or nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, that's why I think there's gonna be that that
blizzard of you know, just kind of milk toasty statements
and it'll all be forgotten eventually.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I don't know. The whole thing wears me out.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
So that's the individual stuff, which I don't really care about. Well,
I don't care about any of it. But one interesting
aspect that I guess I do kind of care about
is when they start looking into the investigations that data
didn't happen over the years, and why and the emails
back and forth between people of why are we not
pursuing Jeffrey Epstein? Hey who made that deal down in
(26:42):
Florida where he got off? All that sort of stuff.
If federal judges said there are more than one hundred
thousand pages of files and materials related to the Justice
Department's investigation int Ebstein, and the Justice Department is confirmed
that it possesses more than three hundred gigabytes of data
and physical evidence, including files it must that are going.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
To come out.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Good God, I'm announcing my retirement and the way conspiracy
theories work, and I've got some really good information on this,
but it's kind of long form. Maybe podcasts someday, but
that much information that many documents, there are vague references,
there are phrases, There are sentences that will be seized
(27:25):
upon and amplified and yarns spun about their significance and
their true meaning, and the conspiracy theory madness around this
will continue on precisely as it is, as if no
documents had been released, and every answer will spawn five
new questions, and God help.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Us, all right, And then it gets down to the
is any of this going to show no, that there
is a nationwide child pedophile ring run by the Clintons,
the Obamas, the Hollywood elite.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
No Trump, No who's been dealt in. Evidently, according to
the conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Right that he is must be tied into it because
he's trying to cover it up. Yeah, there's nothing there.
I mean, that's it. That's the nothing burger of all
nothing burgers.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So as people struggle to pay their bills, the schools
from K through grad school are perverting their children's minds.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I could go on and on with all the real issues.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
This country is struggling with the Democrats at this point,
and a handful of Republicans have decided that this is
the top priority and we're going to deal with this.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Okay, for different dumb reasons, they are feel pressure from
their bases to do this.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yes, there are some days I think shes and Ping
is right.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I'm glad I don't work for the New York Times
with the Washington Post, and I'm going to be handed
three hundred gigabytes.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Go through this and find something good. Giggoty spend the
rest of your career working on that. The investigating Epstein
stuff could get interesting, though, if it turns out somebody
who partied who flew on the plane a lot sent
(29:17):
an email saying, yeah, let's not take this any further.
I think this is a dry hole on investigating Epstein
over the years, or you know how nobody nobody still
knows why he got such a light sentence for what
he got caught doing in Florida.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Mm h yeah, uh yeah, And I don't know. I
just I'm so exhausted by it because getting back to
your picturing being a journalist, your editor says to you, Hey,
it turns out the third and command for Home Depot
in the nineties new Epstein. I want you to research
him to figure out blah blah blah. So you spend
the next three days your life wasting it on that,
(29:54):
and that will spark more idle gossip and conspiracy theories
than the rest of them.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
And once more from rich Flower, as I mentioned this
earlier in the National View, I do think this is interesting.
What we've learned from this is that there is a
widespread code among people with power and money who support
one another. They're pals no matter what side of the aisle.
They're in the club, no matter the sins of their members,
transgressions that get contextualized, explained away understood, like a guy
(30:22):
like Larry Summers, who just you know, I need dating
advice from a known scumbag. But we're all in the
same club of we overlook each other's flaws or problems
or weirdness. We're all the super rich, the powerful are connected.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Vengo And for the record, for folks who are sincerely
just concerned about the victims of Epstein and his small
probably den of purvos, I know you all think it's
a large den of purvos.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I don't think we'll ever get satisfaction on that. I
wish we would.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
To set your minds at ease, if for no other reason,
but I just if there was damage to be done,
it would have been done already.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Absolutely. And as ms now said last night formerly MSNBC,
there are a thousand Epstein victims that have come forward. Well,
not a single one of them have said I was
in a bedroom with Trump, but one.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Of them no. And that's the whole driving force behind
this for all of mainstream media.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well, right, but the Trump administration can't get a narrative
going now other than pro or con Epstein, and that's
good enough for the Democrats. They will bring the country
and its media to a halt for days, weeks, I
don't know how months, just for the purpose of screwing
with the Democrats to gain a small advantage maybe in
(31:55):
the midterms.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
That's where politics works. There's no way to run a republic.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
So you're doing your shopping for Christmas. You got a
little acute, little five year old boy, you know what
you ought to get him or girl? Get him a
toy with AI built into it so that they can
ask the thing questions and it tells them all kinds
of horrible, horrible stuff. Apparently that's actually happening right now,
with some warnings going out already. We can tell you
about that, among other things. It's a stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Science news.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
The examination of animal genitals has helped scientists to discover
seven new species.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
The scientists added that it wasn't worth it. Hmm.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So there's getting a lot of attention today toys with
AI technology in them, particularly these teddy bears from a
company called Folow Toys. They're little AI powered teddy beared
Kuma I don't know how they get Kumma.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Okay, it's an Asian company. Maybe it's means something. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I don't know how they didn't know this where it was,
where it was gonna go. I mean, you don't have
to be super smart to get this, but these these
Teddy Bears basically had Siri in them or Groc in them,
like I've got groc in my truck.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And if your little kid gets this teddy Bear and
ask it what sound does a cow make, it's gonna
say a cow says MoU. But if also if your
kid says, what's a sex swing? The thing's gonna describe
what that is? I mean, because it'll just answer any question.
There are no guardrails on it whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I got a better idea.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Get your kid a chimpanzee and give the chimp a
revolver and go out and enjoy date night.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
It'll be fine. Yes, yes the hell.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
This particular Teddy Bear is powered by chat GPT, the
same service we talked about yesterday that assisted suicide.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah well yeah, yeah, I mean that's horrifying.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But even if it didn't have the whole suicide thing,
just I mean, you're you're basically giving your kid. Here's
the entirety of the Internet, of everything everybody on earth knows,
asking any question you want, little kid. How did they
think that was gonna work anyways? GPT stand for gore,
porn and terrorism.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
That's good. That's what I'd say if I was like
a belligerent you know, that's really good. Stereotypical talk show host.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, you should do that in your Mark Levin voice.
I could see him doing that for a tease tonight.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
So they've already had problems with parents complaining that the
cuddly Companion was giving wildly inappropriate and even dangerous responses,
including tips on how to find in light matches and
detailed explanations about sexual kinks.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Oh boy, is mommy a furry? I don't know, Junior.
Let's find out. Go into her closet.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah. Uh, it's just it's so I don't, like I said,
I can't I believe this business thought that this was
going to work, that it wasn't gonna they were't gonna
get blowback immediately on this.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'm just flabberganting, I know.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So it's been being pulled off the shelves all across
America and there you go.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Well, and evidently yesterday I think it was, we were
on some screen about how AI was going to do
humanity in the first commercial on the podcast, maybe was
for one of these AI toys.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Whoops, money well spent friends.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Right, But as they pointed out that the AI starts
out pretty innocent, and then the more you talk to it,
the further it just becomes you know, just what AI is.
It's a little groomery, doesn't it. And other tests, Kuma
the Bear cheerfully gave tips on how to be a
good kisser and launched into explicitly sexual territory by explaining
(35:50):
a multitude of kinks and fetishes like bondage and teacher
student role play.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
What do you think, sorry, we didn't think of that.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
What do you think would be the most fun to
part of our body to explore? Said Kumba the Bear,
and asked during one of these explanations.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Holy crap, Epstein the Bear, Good Lord, Chester the Molester
the Bear, good Lord, oh man.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Katty and he Armstrong and Hetty. The Epstein
Bill might pass unanimously today, like four point thirty five
to nothing. What's in it? We can talk about that later.
(00:31):
There's some interesting stuff in that bill that's going to
cause some problems I think for a lot of people,
and probably not fairly.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, although nobody's talking about is judicial review of various
aspects of it.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
And I don't actually know the lock.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
In the executive branch just say to the judicial branch,
no a grand jury hearing. We're going to release all
the transcripts, even though that's illegal.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We can get into that later. This stock market today,
I am, as you all know, a day trader. While
while I'm on the air during commercial breaks, I'm trading
many thousands of shares back and forth constantly up to
the minute. I'm an hourly trader. Stock market today, AI
bubble fears hit stocks for fourth day in a row.
It could be one of the great bubbles in the
(01:19):
history of bubbles, maybe the all time biggest bubble.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Who knows. We'll see eventually.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm gonna talk a little bit about AI later. As
I took in several podcasts and started in a new
book yesterday on where this all might be going. Holy crappings,
It really is quite possibly the biggest thing that has happened.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
To mankind since fire.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It really really is.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, I have a sincere question. This is not in
the least cynical. You've read and listened to a lot
and nobody seems to know the answer, but you're compelled
to read another.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Book about it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, do you feel like you're building a most absolutely
absolutely clues of where it might be? Had?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Because I was going to say, there's an aspect of
it that feels like a Super Bowl pregame show to me,
and I've listened to, you know, Coach Kauer and James
Brown and everybody talk about who might win the game
now for two and a half hours.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
A lot of it is the history of all this
and how it came to be in various directions.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And also I like it from the aspect that I think.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
My opinion is as valid as theirs or anyone else's
on this in a lot of different ways. Since people
are guessing how that's going to affect society anyway. I'll
talk about that more later. I continue to be amazed
at the super smart people who actually believe that AI
(02:54):
allowing people not to work is a good thing. That
blows my mind. I mean, you couldn't have a different
view of humanity than I do if you think that's true.
And I was listening to some people yesterday, super smart,
well educated people who think the future generations are going
to look back on our generation. Your grandchildren are going
to say to you, Grandpa, what was it like to
(03:15):
have to go do a job you didn't like every
single day and they give you like two weeks vacation.
It must have been horrible, and they think it's just
gonna be an option here it is, Well, it ain't
the greatest. I have a job I do like, but
I've worked jobs I didn't like. It ain't great.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But the idea when nobody has a job.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Or a purpose for living, that they'll be happy, I
just I don't know what makes you believe that.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know, I agree with you that those people have
an enormous, almost hilarious blind spot about the nature of humanity.
It's as if they suggest running banks on the honor system.
Oh wait, wait wait, whoa whoa whoa? Have you never
noticed that a lot of people will just take what
they can and get Oh shoot, yeah, they would say,
(04:02):
but it'd you ever notice that somebody who's completely idle
and has no purpose in their life turns to drugs
and pleasure and just falls apart as a human like
every trust fund kid you've ever known.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, that's gonna be. That's gonna be the whole country.
And we're just gonna write poetry and do deep thinking
philosophy and volunteer. That's what we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Do, and clean up the environment.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We're not just gonna lay around and get fat and
eat bad food and do drugs and gets super u
turn inward and be obsessed with all kinds.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Of crazy crap and sexual weirdness for roughly a generation
and a half, at which point we.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Die out right. That's wild to me.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I think the honor system bank might be a better ade,
No kidding. AnyWho. The President of the United States, Donald Trump,
maybe you remember him from The Apprentice, currently the president
second term. Actually, he's hosting MBS today in a near
state dinner. It's not a state dinner because NBS isn't
(05:10):
actually the leader of his country. It's some other old
guy whose brain doesn't work. Is is decrepit old dad? Right, Yeah,
but he's the facto leader. But so it's close to
state dinner. You got to use slightly different silverware and
different colored ties and whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Why is MBS here? Well, here's a little of the
report on that.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
President Trump says he plans to sell F thirty five
fighter jets to Saudi Arabia, calling the country a great ally.
Experts say the move couldn't disrupt the current balance of
military might in the Middle East, with Israel worried about
maintaining its aero superiority. This comes as the White House
prepares to welcome the Saudi Crown Prince on Tuesday. It's
the first time the Mohammed bin Salman will visit Washington
(05:50):
since the twenty eighteen killing of journalist Jamal Koshogi. The
CIA believes the Crown Prince ordered that assassination, though he
has repeatedly denied any involvement.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That with all due respect to the horrors of regime
that snuffs its dissidence.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
All right, that's horrible.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Putin has killed his hundreds of thousands, hundreds of thousands,
including beautiful little children. He's kidnapped tens of thousands more
away from their parents. I could go on and on
and on, and yet he had an audience with Trump
there in Canada. Loathsome dictators and rulers get visits to
(06:30):
Washington and vice versa all the damn time. Y'all are
obsessed with Koshogi. God bless him because he was a journalist.
Joe comes out prone bone saw. Yeah, that's fair enough, barbaric.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
How much less attention when the story have gotten if
we didn't have the whole bone saw detail that got
everybody's attention.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I couldn't even tell you that was a specific kind
of saw, honestly, No, no carpenter nor butcher.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But yeah, got everybody's attention a bone saw. You say,
how come?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They had to chop him up in tiny pieces so
they could take him out of the hotel in suitcases.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Good lord, I'm not saying I approve on any level.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Anyway. Why is Trump flattering Saudi Arabia and Seldon F
thirty five's among other.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Reasons, This at the top of President Donald Trump's agenda
will be the Abraham Accords. He wants to see Saudi
Arabia join this set of agreements that normalizes relations with Israel.
It would amount to a major advancement of his signature
policy in the region. Saudi Arabia said it has set
a quote credible and irreversible pathway to Palestinian statehood as
(07:44):
a precondition, which the ceasefire President Trump Broger stops short
of providing.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So this was actually their lead story on Morning Joe
Today on MS NOW. It's called about the amazing development
that the un voted to accept the Trump Gaza Peace Plan.
I mean, this is a huge international diplomacy win for
(08:11):
the Trump crowd. The u N who hates the United
States and certainly hates Donald Trump, voted to accept the
Trump's Gaza Peace Plan. And then you got the whole
Saudi Arabia thing, and we're gonna give them at thirty
five's they're probably gonna sign on to the Abraham Accords,
and you've got at least the beginnings of some sort
(08:32):
of peace in the Middle East like has never happened. Yeah,
maybe them recognizing Israel.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Whoever thought that was gonna happen, that'd be big.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I love this headline, whereas it eh Hamasa's popularity rises
in Gaza, complicating trump plan to disarmed militants. I guess
they're like the only law and order there in Gaza
that's visible on the streets, and crime has gone crazy there.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
As the poor.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Gazan people are being victimized over and over again, and
they're just and people tend to do this. Anybody wants
to come in here and keep order, I'm in favor
of them.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, you would be too, I would be too sure.
If you can't walk out of your house without being
shot or your wife raped or your kids snatched, you'd
you'd be four isis as has happened in Iraq or
hamas has happened in Gaza.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Whoever is going to make the streets safe?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
The head the subhead rather tells you the whole story.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Many Palestinians in Gaza want the militant group to leave power,
but still welcome is crackdown on crime.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, there you have it.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Remember that from an episode of The Mandalorian, one of
the evil guys from Because I don't know the whole
Star Wars story, I don't, I don't really, I don't
have it. In my head, something to do with the
empire or whatever. But anyway, one of your empire dudes
saying to Billboard, the comedian, right before Billboard blows his
head off. People order, and they will appreciate anybody coming
(10:03):
in to restore order on their planet. That's true or
the town.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Then Bill Burr turned out to be a woke jackass.
Oh no, that was in real life character in the Mandalorian. Yeah,
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It's good to be right.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I was gonna check the X line to see if
anybody commented on people dropping their I can't say it.
We had this news story young people are dropping their
teas in words, and it's kind of caught on as
just a manner of speaking. And I've noticed my high
schooler does it. He's been doing it for years, though,
so I don't know culturally when it started, but he's
(11:40):
been saying buttons and kittens for a long time and
I've never said anything about it. I actually thought maybe
it was like a little bit of a speech impediment,
but it's it's a trend.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It's a it'sn't a way affectation.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
There you go affectation.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You know, it's funny I blamed southern California earlier, and
I stand by that, at least in the mind. An
iteration iteration, but it occurs to me the grandmother iteration.
Uh my saint ed grandmother on my father's side, who
was born and raised in Hoboken, New Jersey. Uh said
button button, So that was a speech pattern back then
(12:21):
there as well.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I hated up talk when it first hit until I
remember what I was listening to and I realized, Oh
the Irish had been doing this forever. It's just their
way they do it. There went the.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Bar exploitable drum rank too much and I'm we had a.
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Fight and I got kicked out and I went home
and went out.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Lady was really angry, Right, yeah, what is he going
to do?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So yeah, trends come and go. But yeah, so if
you if you anyone needs to go quickly, if you
know a young person that says buttons, it's hard for
me to even do buttons instead of you did it
wrong button butt in hit and yeah you might annoy in.
I'm having trouble with this button on my shirt trying
(13:05):
to button his sleeves.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You're what my button?
Speaker 6 (13:08):
What?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I don't know what that is, but I know the
word button. Are you pointing to your button?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Son?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
What is actually in the Epstein Transparency Act. It's a
lot and it's going to make a mess. I think
if it actually passes and gets signed in the law,
among other things, we can do this hour.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Stay hear.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
The company Joby, in partnership with Uber, has been testing
and demonstrating around the world, including here in Dubai, in California,
and in New York.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
This is click a button and get a flight.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
A regular Uber will pick you up at your home
or office and take you to a vertiport where you're bored.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
A taxi unlike any other.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
The cabin will be air conditioned with four passenger seats.
Joby says, right will cost around the same as an
Uber Black fully electric. The taxi can go two hundred
miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I am so confused by this. Now. Obviously it would
have to be in major urban centers where they got
big airports, I guess. But so an uber pixure up
at your house takes you to your closest airport of
any kind, probably could be private airports, and you get
into some sort of flying something and for the cost
(14:32):
of an Uber black, which is not very much, it
takes across town to the next closest airport. Then you'd
have to get in another uber and go to the
actual You have to be in a place like the
size of Los Angeles or New York for it even
makes sense.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I think from my understanding from the report, these little
heliports that they were talking about their standalone structures, so
it wouldn't have to be at it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Oh okay, okay, we standywhere a helicopter can take off
in land, right makes sense? Yeah, and they're like big
oversized quad copters.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Like you know, your drone.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
But yeah, say that it was roughly roughly the size
of an suv.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
But for the cost of an Uber black. I mean,
I don't know if you ever do that, but it's
not that expensive, right Is it an electric motor?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Fully electric? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Wow? I mean if it becomes a deal where for
eighty bucks you could get clear across LA really quickly.
There maybe a lot of people doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, you got the occasional crack up, and people might
end up less alive than they are currently, but all
who might stand away in the way of progress.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Although once you have very many of them in the air,
I've been saying this the whole time, and I've never
heard anybody really address it, whether it's the drones that
Amazon's talking about using, or these air taxis or whatever.
Once you get very many of these things in the air,
who's how is that going to work out?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Ah, you can maneuver in three dimensions? How hard can
it be? You go up, they'll go down. Up, they're
going up to I'll go right, They're gone right now,
curb Lily.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I just I just can't.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I mean, maybe I lack knowledge of how they're gonna
come up with air lanes to where like you drive
on the right side and you go at this elevation
and everybody's separate, and I just can't imagine how that
would work. I'm staying on the ground, Thank you very much.
That was pretty darn cool. So MBS just arrived at
(16:28):
the White House and Trump was waiting for him out there,
and NBS got a I was hoping NBS gets out
of his limo and Trump hands him a gold bone saw.
Is like a gift.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Oh, by gones, water under the bridge.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Probably not a real workable bone saw, but it's the
sort of thing you set on your desk and he
gets all right, it's a commemorative bone saw. Yeah, and
it's probably a little black on it. And NBS could
say Trump gave this to me. It's a it's a
gold bone saw to commemorate my chopping up a DISSIDENTH
my god, oh thed h, wake up, grow up, you're
(17:06):
gonna like this. I haven't read the whole interview, but
they talked to three university leaders in the New York Times.
Somebody from University of Wisconsin Madison, somebody from Dartmouth, somebody
from Wesleyan. Anyway, the dude from Dartmouth talking about the
current situation between the Trump administration and universities.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
As leaders, we lost our mission about what higher education was.
Where educational organizations were not political organizations like the RNC
and DNC. We're not even social advocacy organizations, said the
president of Dartmouth in this interview.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, I have plenty of evidence that his point of
view is just starting to blossom.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
We still have a long, enormous fight in front.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Of us, but yeah, it's encouraging that at least some
folks seem to have some grasp of sanity on campus.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Wouldn't that be great if that got turned around? Oh,
we're Our job is not to be politically active. Our
job is to learn science or math or art or
whatever you're majoring in. What might be fantastic.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, we can talk about that. Maybe hour four.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
How long and difficult that's going to be, But yeah,
it would be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
What's actually in the Epstein Transparency Act?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
A whole lot of stuff, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
As Epstein files fever continues to engulf Washington, the US
Attorney's Office in downtown Manhattan is investigating the disgraced pedophiles
ties to prominent Democrats. This is the direction of both
President Trump and Attorney General Pam Bondi. US Attorney Jay
Clayton is probing Epstein's ties to former Treasury Secretary Larry
(18:41):
Summers and former President Bill Clinton, and aid for the
former president posted Bill Clinton did nothing and knew nothing.
The rest is noise meant to distract from election losses,
backfiring shutdowns, and who knows what else.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I was reading Mark Alpern's newsletter today and he said,
in Washington, d C. It is the only story for
everybody of every ilk, no matter your political affiliation or
the department you work for. The only story in DC
right now is the whole Epstein thing.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
There are three hundred and forty million people in this country,
roughly sho hans, whose life will be affected directly by
anything that happens, not one with the Epstein. There might
be fifty people, including his victims.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, yeah, some of the politicians. I mean it's affected
Larry Summers, former president of Harvard and former Treasury secretary.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
As it came to one hundred people, maybe two hundred.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It came out last week. We read these earlier. There
are emails he was soliciting dating advice from Epstein, long
after everybody knew what a Epstein was, after he been
convicted of being a creep right and Larry Summers was still, Hey,
I've got this girl, I'm mentoring what would be the
best way to get her where I want her to be?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Good judgment. Larry freaking creepy.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
So a couple of things before I get to what
the bill actually is, which is why I think this is.
I don't think it's a big deal that it will
have any effect on anybody. I think it's a big
deal in the fact that it's going to royal ar
media in politics for a little while. So well, first
of all, Trump said this yesterday.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I'm all for it. You know, we've already given fifty
thousand pages.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
You do know that. Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation,
with the Martin Luther King situation, not to put Jeffrey
Epstein in the same category.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
But no matter what we give is never enough. That's
probably going to be true. No matter what happens, there
will still be conspiracies out there, belief that stuff is
being hidden.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
One hundred percent. That's how conspiracy theories work.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, Mark Awperon said, based on everybody he's talking to,
the vote could be close to unanimous today in the House,
especially since Trump changed direction and went with yeah, vote
for it Sunday night, having wanted to try to keep
the MAGA crowd together voting against it, and he couldn't.
That's its own interesting separate story, as the Wall Street Journal,
(21:09):
in The New York Times, and National Review all have
pieces out about how Maga is defying Trump now on
the Senate filibuster, on Indiana redistricting, on trade, and on
this Epstein vote.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They just say, now, we're not listening to you anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Such Kansas told them no too on the redistricting thing.
Such is the nature of being a lame duck. Now,
there was some belief, and I believed it myself, that
maybe okay, it passes the House, but then it's dead. Well,
I'm reading in the wide world of news today. John Fune,
the guy who runs the Senate, could schedule a vote
soon or put off a vote till later. But no
(21:45):
one thinks, given the presidents one hundred and eighty degree
turn and support and the expected overwhelming tally in the
House today, that Fune can just bury the thing and
not take it up. There'll be too much political pressure
to take outp As a bill that change in the
wind we speculated might be coming yesterday. Will any Republican
filibuster the legislation at this point that seems unlikely in
(22:06):
the extreme, especially since there's almost certainly sixty votes all
the Democrats and at least ten Republicans, and you don't
need the filibuster proof sixty seven anymore because Trump has
already said he'll sign the bill, so it's probably going
to go through the House and to send it quite easily,
and then Trump's going to let's kind of get past
the philibuster to get to the floor to be voted on.
(22:28):
So you've got that step not according to this reading here, Oh,
is that because it's a consent, will any Republican filibuster
the legislation? At this point it seems unlikely you'd have
to say I filibustered, then you need your two thirds bill.
He doesn't think anybody will, So we'll let this point.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
The Dems love it for whatever perverse reason.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Right, So it's going to go through. So what is
in the dang thing? I'll just read this first big paragraph,
and I think all of this is going to lead
to a mess of meaningless talk and chatter and interviews
and lots of people being forced to answer questions and
maybe their wives getting really angry. Or the Justice Department
(23:08):
must publicly disclose all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigative materials,
including records relating to Epstein's detention and death. All flight
logs of all aircraft owned or used by Epstein, I
mean right there, all the flight logs of everything he's
(23:29):
ever flown in ever is going to include a lot
of famous people that are going to have to answer
questions why did you go to the island or why
did he fly you to Vegas in July of twenty eighteen?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
George Clooney or I'm just thrown out a name, but
who at secs up? Any teenagers?
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, you'll be in a position where you have to
answer it.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
All individuals named in connection with Epstein's criminal activities throughout
his life, civil settlements that have already happened, or immunity
or plea agreements. All that stuff is going to come out.
Immunity deals, sealed settlements, plea bargains of Ebstein or his associates,
entities with ties to Epstein's trafficking and financial networks, and
(24:11):
internal Justice Department communications concerning decisions to investigate or not
investigate or charge Epstein or his associates throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Of stuff, gosh, I'd say, and a lot of stuff
that is traditionally never ever released for some pretty good reasons,
you know. And now I actually wish I was a
real lawyer, because I find myself wondering, if you've got
a private agreement, a NDA non disclosure agreement, both parties
(24:41):
agreed to it, you sign it, the money changes hands, whatever,
whatever the terms were, can the federal government come in
years later and nullify it and say nope, now it's
all out.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
In the open. I have none that even a thing,
as the kids say.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I have no idea. And you've been saying for a
long time that one of the reasons this stuff shouldn't
come out is it's not fair to be who haven't
been accused of anything. But all, like I said, all
kinds of famous people's names are going to come out
of having gone to parties, flown around with Jeffrey Epstein this.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Or doesn't mean they did anything wrong or what water.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But TMZ is going to be in the face of
everybody making answer a question.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And this is so tail wagon the doggie, because you're
going to see a flurry, no, a blizzard of statements.
You know, you could mimeograph them, that's an old timey word,
and have everybody sign them. While I knew mister Epstein
briefly and traveled with him once. I never blah blah
blah signed a hundred different names, and that will satisfy
no one.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
This is also in there, and I have no idea
if this is legal or not. The Justice Department may
not withhold or redact records on the basis of embarrassment,
reputational harm, or political sensitivity.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
How about that.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Wait a second. The due process of this country now
means if I've ever been in the same building with
Jeffrey Epstein yet that's going to be released. It's got
nothing to do with nothing, and it's gonna cause embarrement, embarrassment,
reputational harm, and politicals there's political sensitive.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
But whatever it comes out, I was not part of
any investigation or nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, that's why I think there's gonna be that that
blizzard of you know, just kind of milk toasty statements
and it'll all be forgotten eventually.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I don't know. The whole thing wears me out.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
So that's the individual stuff, which I don't really care about. Well,
I don't care about any of it. But one interesting
aspect that I guess I do kind of care about
is when they start looking into the investigations that data
didn't happen over the years, and why and the emails
back and forth between people of why are we not
pursuing Jeffrey Epstein? Hey who made that deal down in
(26:42):
Florida where he got off? All that sort of stuff.
If federal judges said there are more than one hundred
thousand pages of files and materials related to the Justice
Department's investigation int Ebstein, and the Justice Department is confirmed
that it possesses more than three hundred gigabytes of data
and physical evidence, including files it must that are going.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
To come out.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Good God, I'm announcing my retirement and the way conspiracy
theories work, and I've got some really good information on this,
but it's kind of long form. Maybe podcasts someday, but
that much information that many documents, there are vague references,
there are phrases, There are sentences that will be seized
(27:25):
upon and amplified and yarns spun about their significance and
their true meaning, and the conspiracy theory madness around this
will continue on precisely as it is, as if no
documents had been released, and every answer will spawn five
new questions, and God help.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Us, all right, And then it gets down to the
is any of this going to show no, that there
is a nationwide child pedophile ring run by the Clintons,
the Obamas, the Hollywood elite.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
No Trump, No who's been dealt in. Evidently, according to
the conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Right that he is must be tied into it because
he's trying to cover it up. Yeah, there's nothing there.
I mean, that's it. That's the nothing burger of all
nothing burgers.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So as people struggle to pay their bills, the schools
from K through grad school are perverting their children's minds.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I could go on and on with all the real issues.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
This country is struggling with the Democrats at this point,
and a handful of Republicans have decided that this is
the top priority and we're going to deal with this.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Okay, for different dumb reasons, they are feel pressure from
their bases to do this.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yes, there are some days I think shes and Ping
is right.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I'm glad I don't work for the New York Times
with the Washington Post, and I'm going to be handed
three hundred gigabytes.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Go through this and find something good. Giggoty spend the
rest of your career working on that. The investigating Epstein
stuff could get interesting, though, if it turns out somebody
who partied who flew on the plane a lot sent
(29:17):
an email saying, yeah, let's not take this any further.
I think this is a dry hole on investigating Epstein
over the years, or you know how nobody nobody still
knows why he got such a light sentence for what
he got caught doing in Florida.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Mm h yeah, uh yeah, And I don't know. I
just I'm so exhausted by it because getting back to
your picturing being a journalist, your editor says to you, Hey,
it turns out the third and command for Home Depot
in the nineties new Epstein. I want you to research
him to figure out blah blah blah. So you spend
the next three days your life wasting it on that,
(29:54):
and that will spark more idle gossip and conspiracy theories
than the rest of them.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
And once more from rich Flower, as I mentioned this
earlier in the National View, I do think this is interesting.
What we've learned from this is that there is a
widespread code among people with power and money who support
one another. They're pals no matter what side of the aisle.
They're in the club, no matter the sins of their members,
transgressions that get contextualized, explained away understood, like a guy
(30:22):
like Larry Summers, who just you know, I need dating
advice from a known scumbag. But we're all in the
same club of we overlook each other's flaws or problems
or weirdness. We're all the super rich, the powerful are connected.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Vengo And for the record, for folks who are sincerely
just concerned about the victims of Epstein and his small
probably den of purvos, I know you all think it's
a large den of purvos.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I don't think we'll ever get satisfaction on that. I
wish we would.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
To set your minds at ease, if for no other reason,
but I just if there was damage to be done,
it would have been done already.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Absolutely. And as ms now said last night formerly MSNBC,
there are a thousand Epstein victims that have come forward. Well,
not a single one of them have said I was
in a bedroom with Trump, but one.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Of them no. And that's the whole driving force behind
this for all of mainstream media.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well, right, but the Trump administration can't get a narrative
going now other than pro or con Epstein, and that's
good enough for the Democrats. They will bring the country
and its media to a halt for days, weeks, I
don't know how months, just for the purpose of screwing
with the Democrats to gain a small advantage maybe in
(31:55):
the midterms.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
That's where politics works. There's no way to run a republic.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
So you're doing your shopping for Christmas. You got a
little acute, little five year old boy, you know what
you ought to get him or girl? Get him a
toy with AI built into it so that they can
ask the thing questions and it tells them all kinds
of horrible, horrible stuff. Apparently that's actually happening right now,
with some warnings going out already. We can tell you
about that, among other things. It's a stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Science news.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
The examination of animal genitals has helped scientists to discover
seven new species.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
The scientists added that it wasn't worth it. Hmm.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So there's getting a lot of attention today toys with
AI technology in them, particularly these teddy bears from a
company called Folow Toys. They're little AI powered teddy beared
Kuma I don't know how they get Kumma.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Okay, it's an Asian company. Maybe it's means something. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I don't know how they didn't know this where it was,
where it was gonna go. I mean, you don't have
to be super smart to get this, but these these
Teddy Bears basically had Siri in them or Groc in them,
like I've got groc in my truck.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And if your little kid gets this teddy Bear and
ask it what sound does a cow make, it's gonna
say a cow says MoU. But if also if your
kid says, what's a sex swing? The thing's gonna describe
what that is? I mean, because it'll just answer any question.
There are no guardrails on it whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I got a better idea.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Get your kid a chimpanzee and give the chimp a
revolver and go out and enjoy date night.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
It'll be fine. Yes, yes the hell.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
This particular Teddy Bear is powered by chat GPT, the
same service we talked about yesterday that assisted suicide.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah well yeah, yeah, I mean that's horrifying.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But even if it didn't have the whole suicide thing,
just I mean, you're you're basically giving your kid. Here's
the entirety of the Internet, of everything everybody on earth knows,
asking any question you want, little kid. How did they
think that was gonna work anyways? GPT stand for gore,
porn and terrorism.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
That's good. That's what I'd say if I was like
a belligerent you know, that's really good. Stereotypical talk show host.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, you should do that in your Mark Levin voice.
I could see him doing that for a tease tonight.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
So they've already had problems with parents complaining that the
cuddly Companion was giving wildly inappropriate and even dangerous responses,
including tips on how to find in light matches and
detailed explanations about sexual kinks.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Oh boy, is mommy a furry? I don't know, Junior.
Let's find out. Go into her closet.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah. Uh, it's just it's so I don't, like I said,
I can't I believe this business thought that this was
going to work, that it wasn't gonna they were't gonna
get blowback immediately on this.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'm just flabberganting, I know.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So it's been being pulled off the shelves all across
America and there you go.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Well, and evidently yesterday I think it was, we were
on some screen about how AI was going to do
humanity in the first commercial on the podcast, maybe was
for one of these AI toys.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Whoops, money well spent friends.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Right, But as they pointed out that the AI starts
out pretty innocent, and then the more you talk to it,
the further it just becomes you know, just what AI is.
It's a little groomery, doesn't it. And other tests, Kuma
the Bear cheerfully gave tips on how to be a
good kisser and launched into explicitly sexual territory by explaining
(35:50):
a multitude of kinks and fetishes like bondage and teacher
student role play.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
What do you think, sorry, we didn't think of that.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
What do you think would be the most fun to
part of our body to explore? Said Kumba the Bear,
and asked during one of these explanations.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Holy crap, Epstein the Bear, Good Lord, Chester the Molester
the Bear, good Lord, oh man.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
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