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March 14, 2025 35 mins

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  • An addict living in San Francisco
  • "I've gone career"
  • Civil rights divisions operations 
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Katty and he Armstrong and Getty. We've
wind up.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Ten different guests to talk about the government shutdown over
the next three hours. Cable news. I'm old, so I
watch cable news. I realize a lot of you who
are not old, You're like you were watching what that?
You don't watch it, so that makes sense. But the
small number of people who still watch cable news, what

(00:46):
do they think they're doing? I watch MSNBC and Fox
every morning, and they were wall to wall government shutdown.
I thought, is there anybody in the country interested in
this back and forth and the wranglings over this?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Anyone?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
And even if you're interested in it, you probably misunderstand it.
I've got a good illustration of that caught up a
little later, not because you lack sophistication or anything like that,
but because the budget process is so complicated. Haven't you
lived through the last dozen of these where most of
the time he gets settled before it happens and nobody
ever thinks about it again after all this.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Conversation, Yes, the beltweit bubble.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
They're self obsessed on a completely different topic which we're
going to slide into now. Got this note from Mike
who lives in the San Jose, California area. We're huge
in the hoe. Shout out to our friends there, Californian California.
In a nutshell, homeless guy is masturbating outside someone's home
and he runs bites a cop in the process of

(01:45):
being arrested. And the headline in the Mercury News is
advocates blame San Jose's homelessness approach for violent police altercation
with unhoused man.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Wow. And he said it's articles.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
As much he supports local journalism, it was articles like
this that made him throw up his hands and cancel
his subscription to Sure Mercury News, which used to.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Be a really good regional paper Metro.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
And hey, even your readers in the Bay area of
California no longer are on your side on this sort
of stuff. People are speaking of bubbles. Yeah, journalism in
America is a weird little subset of people. It's like
the Amish, but odder anyway, their lives and thoughts have
nothing to do with your as friends. So topic of

(02:32):
bums and junkies came across this yesterday. It's a guy
who goes on the street in San Francisco. He's actually
wearing those cool ray band glasses where you can video
people and record him. I don't know if he's getting
their permission or not.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't know. They're feats on the street. Yeah. I
know JJ Smith's works. He's really good.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
This is what he does, and he's very polite and
respectful and asks people if you can talk to them
and record it. But anyway, here's a conversation with a
young man standing on a street corner in uh, could
be any corner in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Where you from?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Patrick, I'm from Indiana, Indiana, USA?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Hey, how long you've been in San Francisco, West Indiana.
I've been in San Francisco for four years? Four years? Max.
What type of drugs you use?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I use crack and phetamine, hard cocaine. I use fentanyl,
iso fentanyl, isopoo, fentanyl and smoke weed.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Do you know I fitanel can kill you?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes, How you ever overdosed on it?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I've overdosed yeah, many times, several times.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Several times. Yes. That never scared you. It scars me
every time. Don't has it scared you not to use
it anymore? Sort of but not not.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
There's no longevity there.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Obviously pretty well spoken dude.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's not like he's, you know, completely crazy or an
idiot by any means.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Rolls on, Are you homeless?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
On how I'm no, No, I'm not, you're not what
I'm not homeless or.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
In honest he said, he still on the streets? Are
in the shelter?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Or I have an apartment through a subsidy? Uh that
it was a nonprofit funded with city benefits.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh so they gave you an apartment. The city gave
you an apartment. Yeah, okay, how did that work it
out for you? Well, I mean it's working out.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's working out really well relative to some of the
people on the streets. I mean I still have a
lot of my health, i'd say, and I you know,
I have the ability to not worry about like my
basic needs like you know, food, shelter, and hold.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Are you I'm thirty one? Tell you what do you
ever stay in contact with your family members? I talked
to my mom kind of if I was able to
tell you I could help you out and get you
into a detox where you can start helling yourself. Are
you interested? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, I mean I'm always interested. Uh, I have kind
of a flight risk, a risk.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Ye, what do you mean about it.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I've been to several detoxes, even since I've been in
San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
You know, I've researched the avenues.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
But then when it gets close, I I just tend
to not go.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay, I understand you what that means. Now.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
No, I'm super interested, Like I'm super interested. But then, like,
fedol is such a different animal, it's such a different drug.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's like I lived in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I was. I was a heroin out of in Chicago
for some years and I was always able to get
into detox very easily. But there's something with the spend
on it's like just.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Keeping people on the streets.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Okay, we got more of this, But that's a pretty
interesting insight right there. As a guy who used does
meth and heroin, fentanyl's a different animal.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, I was struck by his rather concise and eloquent
description of what I'm always going on about the city.
San Francisco has made it easy and comfortable for him
to continue to be an addict. Which is the worst
thing you can do. I'm reminded of the words of
Nelly Bowles, now of the Free Press, before the Free
Press existed, as a liberal, lesbian San Franciscan who realized

(05:56):
that as she put it so beautifully, and I wish
I had it in front of me, I'll paraphrase that,
the way we treat these people is allegedly kindness, but
it doesn't look like kindness to me. It looks like
easing young people into death on the pavement. Okay, well,
that gets into having a judgment about their lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Maybe you don't like that.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
You're a libertarian and people should be able to do
whatever they want. Fine, if you can support yourself while
you're taking fentanyl and meth and hard cocaine whatever that is,
and a bunch of other stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
But if you can't support yourself, and now it's my
money you're paying for you, Now I get to say.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, he said, it's worked out.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
His apartment, a city paid apartment, because it takes care
of all of his basic needs. He doesn't have to
worry about being broke or on the street. It's great
so he can keep being a junkie, and that is
the favor we're doing him as a society quote.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Unquote, let's a little more of this and discuss more
some of this. When you get your supplies, do you
get them from harm Reduction? Yeah? Yeah, I supplies. I know.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Let me actually, what do you think about harm reduction?
Do you think they're enabling people? Yes? I do think
they're enabling people.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
But I can't say that they're a totally bad organization
because they do offer services. But like I said before,
that if barely anybody takes the services, I also have
such a grip on people that remember they you know,
they they take the pipes and the and the brillo
and the you know, the needles over the you know,

(07:28):
the subtexts, the maintenance trument's, the micro the eath and
orphan microos, the uh SD tests.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, OK, I'll get there. Darn it.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
We edited out the part I wanted to talk about. Hmmm,
that's just funny. Uh uh. He He was asked what
he does all day long or where he gets his money,
and he talked a little bit about it, and they
kind of like winked at each other and used some
code words. I wanted to ask people what that meant.
Did that mean he stole all day long? Was he
breaking into cars? Or let's see if we can dig

(08:00):
that up. We have the raw audio. Yeah, we'll come
back to it, because I thought that's a heck of
a thing to gloss over if that's what he meant.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
You know, I just kind of you know, I steal
from my other stuff. Ha ha.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
You know, if you've got your car broken into in
the San Francisco are you don't find it quite as
funny or is not a big deal as he does. Yeah,
as long as I'm quoting people, Thomas Sowell famously said,
there are some ideas so stupid. It was a word
like stupid, so stupid only an intellectual could could have them.
And I'm there are so many times when especially progressive America,

(08:37):
manages to overlook the bedrock truths of human beings and
human behavior, and that is, if you want less of
a terrible, terrible behavior, there have to be disincentives for it. Well,
I'm trying to wrap my head around how you even
get to this place. So San Francisco's a hippie town

(08:59):
or know, And this is true, and lots of places,
not just San Francisco, But uh, San Francisco is a
hippie town, and so they think partying is cool and
you shouldn't ever describe any possible downsides to party in
hert Like a lot of port cities, it has a
reputation isn't anything goes place?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Right?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
But then when you got drug addicts on the street,
so did those of you who you still believe that
if you just had if you just had enough rehabs,
these people would go to rehab and stop doing this.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
You think, how do you come to that conclusion?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
What's your what's your mindset of data that brought you
to that conclusion?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Do they know like they have no experience of the
actual people?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
I would guess, well, it's not like I've lived my
life around heroin addicts. It just seems like obvious to me. Sure, yeah, wow,
that's really interesting. And then you've got the crowd that
uses the numbers of people on the streets to claim
it's a housing thing. And then that's I don't know,
you're either an idiot or it's just a scam. It's

(10:08):
a way to try to get more tax revenue. Yeah,
anything goes, I get, but anything goes and taxpayers will
pay for it. Is an attitude that is not only
outrageous as a taxpayer, but just again, it overlooks the
bedrock truths of human behavior. That guy seems more or
less perfectly comfortable with his lifestyle. Yeah, yeah, to the

(10:33):
extent that an addict can be. Yeah, yes, because of
the quote unquote services.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Every time I hear these stories, so I just I'm
amazed this guy's still alive. Just this list of drugs
that he was using.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, well we edited out also the number of times
he's had to be brought back. He's overdosed a whole
bunch of times and had to be revived, you know,
because you heard him asked you ever you never almost
did oh yeah yeah, or you realize could kill you?
Oh yeah, yeah yeah. I have overdose a whole bunch
of different times. They had to bring me back. Wow,

(11:04):
And it just like it seemed like a no big
deal to him whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
And the number of times we've talked about this that
we've been flooded with emails and texts saying guys, I
was an addict of various substances and getting arrested and
put in jail saved my life we see over again. Yes, yes,
we have seen that over and over again. Have we
ever had one in your in your personal life or
on the radio. Have you ever had one? Yeah, they
put me up in an apartment. They gave me needles

(11:29):
and brittopads and all that stuff he is mentioned. They
gave me a vouchers so I could buy food, and
then I got sober.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I have never heard that story one time, not one.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
No, no, no, I think we have the clip you're
looking for, Michael seventy four, still coming in and actually, okay,
we'll get to that later.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Is she mailing it to us or what? How do
we get these clips we have? We have, we have
the same bird. I got it right now now it's
sent by owl. Okay, okay, So how do you how
do you survive like to get your to get the
money to get the drugs. Well, I don't know how.
I don't know how much. I don't know how much

(12:11):
of that I can go into. I've been trying to
go with my story, but whatever you want to say.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, I've gone career.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Okay, every day.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I work every day, so I've gone I've gone career.
And he kind of smiles and nods, So that's breaking
into cars. I couldn't tell if that was turning tricks
or breaking into cars. Well, that's interesting. It could be
that I assumed he use a he's a thief, he's
a shoplifter.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Right, and then for that to be just so you know,
I break into cars.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So yeah, they they provide me with an apartment and
all the stuff I need from a drugs and then
I steal from preak people who are just trying to
park their cars so they can go to work. All
because he had one medical Billy couldn't pay in housing
is expensive, said nobody. Ever, that is really interesting again,
what's your any response to that?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Text? Line four one five two nine five kftc.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Armstrong Ngetti, a Los Angeles County Deputy sheriff, has been
accused of smuggling black tar heroin into a jail by
hiding it inside two cans of pringles. And the worst
part was the prisoners could never get that last bit
of heroin from the bottom of the cabin.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Though at the end of the day, it's Philly a jo.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
So we just played some audio as an interview with
a drug addict standing on the street in San Francisco,
which is probably not a lot different than the drug
addict standing on the street in Seattle or La or
sam Hit in all West coast cities, but that's where
a lot of it is. Vancouver, man, you can just
drive I five San Diego, La on off the coast,

(13:56):
San Francisco, Hit, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver cities. That will provide
you someplace to live, all the paraphernalia you need to take,
the drugs, all that sort of thing, and it's working
out great. As you look around the city, you can
see that it's a that plan has been really you
can reap the benefits anyway. So the guy that was
interviewed on the street, at some point, the interviewer said,

(14:19):
you know how you getting by or whatever, and he said, oh,
I've gone career, and a whole bunch of people they
pointed out that that means career criminal. That's your street lingo.
He's almost bragging about it, as if there's no stigma
in that culture. Yeah, seems to be. He didn't seem
the least bit bothered by the fact that I'm parking
my car so I can go in him to a

(14:39):
store or go to work or whatever. You smash the windows,
stole some stuff. I now have great expense, My insurance
goes up. You stole my laptop all the putte pain
that comes with that. But you know, hey, what are
you going to do? And he stole everything in the
story you went into, right, Yeah, that's a little disappointing
that it's a treated you may have crossed paths with him.

(15:00):
He was walking out with his big trash can full
of trash bag full of what you were going to buy,
and while you were in there saying what hell's all
the goods, he was breaking into your car win Win.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Uh. Well, I'll just here's somebody somewhat angry.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
A lot of you are quite angry with that nonchalant
drug addict thief standing on the corner there.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I'm dead being serious.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
I want to go dark knight vigilante like Philippines President
Duratati or whatever his name is on the Temple day. Yeah, well,
I don't know that I want that, well, and I
know I don't want that.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
You don't need that. You just got to stop enabling
these people.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
You know, you don't need to give people an apartment
and money for food and the actual paraphernalia to take
the drugs. You don't need to do that, and if
you stop, you'll have a lot fewer drug addicts period. Sure. Yeah,
it's too miserable. I don't want to do this anymore.
That has been Is that not jack? Roughly the cry

(16:01):
that precedes every serious attempt to heal from addiction. This sucks.
I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah, essentially, Yeah, yeah,
I don't like this lifestyle. Whatever the other lifestyle would be,
of not being drunk or drugged, I would prefer to
This is the only way anybody ever stops. And if
you're providing somebody a pretty easy life, and if you

(16:22):
don't have to go to work every day, obviously you
don't have any kids or anything like that, or if
you do, you don't care about them. I was you know,
he's from Indiana. Do you talk to your mom, The
interviewer asked, Yeah. Sometimes, Yeah, you know, mom might just
have just raised a kid, like we all raise a kid,
and for whatever reason, at a party, that kid did
some drugs and tried fentanyl, and off the goes.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
First worth mentioning that he was an addict in Chicago
for a while and now he's in San Francisco. Was
it because he was transferred for his career or what exactly?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
The weather?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Probably I'm guessing he got word that, Hey, they really
take take care of you in San Francisco. It's great
and easy to be an addict. I'd be in fre Attle,
but it's too rainy, so I went with San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Great. Why does society do this? Anyway, We've got more
on the win.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Armstrong and Getty now you I do want to talk
about March Madness and betting gambling a little bit later.
As you know, it's changed in the last few years.
A big court ruling allowed legalized gambling all across the
country in a way that had never existed before, and

(17:34):
there's been an explosion of gambling. We do ads for
it too, and I, you know, do whatever you want
to do. I have no problem with that. It's funny
as well. I'll save this for later. I heard NPR
doing this story. Their take was hilarious. Anyway, my main
thrust here is you don't understand the giant federal government.

(17:57):
I don't understand the giant federal government. It'd be almost
possible to understand it, and it's hopeless to think we're
ever going to pare it down to something that is
responsible to the people. So good night, everybody drive safely,
tip your weight staff. Yes, and it's equally impossible for say,
the president to understand it.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
So this is an article in the Wall Street Journal
by Kim Strassel. Strassel do we decide how were you
going to pross? Meet the lawyer who's about to head
one of the most ideological offices in Washington. Her meet
Dylan is her name, and she was appointed. Talk to
her several times. Yeah, we've talked to her. Yes, Wow, cool?
What did we talk to her about? Oh, she's represented

(18:38):
some great clients in the face of progressive madness. I
don't remember the specifics.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
She's junior.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
She's doomed in this new assignment, I think, But yeah,
she is going to she's the nominee as Assistant Attorney
General for civil rights and she is going to be
involved in what former Attorney General Eric Holder called the
Justice Department's crown jewel. And this is something that none
of us pay any attention to the Civil Rights Division

(19:07):
of the Justice Department, which has I'm in favor of
civil rights jack, which has for decades successfully repelled any
effort at reform or oversight. It's a hotbad of liberal
activism that acts as a law unto itself. If mister
Trump hopes to see through his goal of deep politicizing
the Justice Department, it will be ground zero. And I
thought a lot of you had been overstating, you know,

(19:31):
the Justice Department's ideological leanings or the deep state or whatever.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
But no, you haven't been.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
And this whole there's an article the other day about
all the people that Elon is firing and trying to
get rid of. But it's the gazillions of unelected people
underneath all these people that are real, the fabric of
the whole federal government, that make the rules and bog

(19:57):
things down and cost you money, that are most untouchable.
Oh yeah, Well you go to somebody in that the
Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department, you say, all right, yeah,
I need you to file this writ. I'll say, I'm
on it. And a week later, how's that writ to file?
And gone, I lost it? All right, I need you
to file it all right? Week later I lost it again.
I ought to fire you. Well you can't.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
They quote a.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Former Republican in the Wall Street journal who got involved
in this division of the Justice Department. I've never been
met with greater hostility narrowly. All the career lawyers come
from liberal advocacy groups and all carry the mindset I
can do exactly what I was doing for the ACL
you only now with the power of the government behind me.
Largest of the Justice's eight litigation areas today, it has

(20:43):
a mandate far beyond the nineteen fifty seven Civil Rights Law.
It was initially created a police It's embedded activists take
pride not in enforcing the law, but in making the
law and areas that range from disabilities in voting laws
to housing lending and immigration. It's one sided approach to
the laws. It oversees. Constant trading narrowly on radical priorities,
ignoring entirely basic speech and religious rights has played a

(21:06):
part in American's distrust of the Department.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
And that's why you're so angry with the federal government
all the time.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
It comes out of this department prior republican of political appointees,
alongside the rare conservative lawyer who accidentally ended there, brim
with stories of the division's resistance to direction, even direct orders.
Career attorneys refused to work on cases. This is kind
of what you were talking about. Career attorneys refuse to
work on cases which with which they disagree. Others take

(21:33):
part with the goal of misleading superiors on legal questions
or sabotaging cases. Lawyers send letters, make threats, or initiate
proceedings without sign off from leadership. So they really just
do whatever the hell they want to do on their own. Yeah,
they're all activists, self righteous, angry activists and things really

(21:54):
hum along with Democrats and are in charge. A twenty
thirteen Inspector General report evaluating the operations of the civil
rights divisions noted that of nine trial attorneys hired in
twenty ten, eight had one or more liberal affiliations, including
activist groups like the Aclulraza or a Lawyer's Committee for

(22:14):
Civil Rights, which is a crazy organization. Also with no
candidates that were Republican or conservative affiliated hired. And it
got even crazier under Biden, according to the Wall Street Journal.
And that was in the voting section. And you may
recall when Georgia tried to quite reasonably say COVID's over,
We're going to go back to the before COVID rules.

(22:36):
The Justice Department went crazy, and you got all that
Jim Crow on steroids, horrific garbage out at Joe Biden
his administration. So all these super lefty organizations are fighting
like crazy. They're waging a ferocious battle that says here
against her confirmation. A letter signed by sixty five activist
group warnsman assault on this and that if she is confirmed.

(22:57):
So they're really pressure and Democrats to to try to
keep her from becoming the nominee. Nobody pays any attention
to this stuff. No normal person is even where it's
going on, and it doesn't make the news on a
daily basis. All these affiliated with the most left ring

(23:19):
wing Marxist organizations, lawyers pushing cases, they care about losing
files and cases. They don't care about doing whatever they
want without any oversight. And it's been going on for
decades without anybody making a dent in it. Right, the
deep state or I just prefer the permanent bureaucracy because

(23:42):
it is a boring, straightforward term. The permanent bureaucracy, which
actually runs DC is almost uniformly left right. The whole
concept of capture is not appreciated enough. Like once you
get enough capture where you have to say a click
on each picture that has a traffic light. Is that

(24:03):
what you're talking about, is that the polls in it,
the light's nodded. Does that count as the traffic exactly.
I've got the bottom part of the Oh it says
I'm a robot. Now I gotta do it again. Click
on everything with a bicycle. Well, that's that barely looks
like a tire. It could be something else.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Capture I mean if you get enough of your crowd
into something, you can take it over.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
And we've seen it with the university system.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Where if you get enough left wing Democrats and I
mean the far left wing democrats, you've captured the institution.
In that one, you only hire other left wingers, and
two you'd be scared as somebody who didn't agree with
them to ever raise your voice because it's going to
damage your career.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
So that institution has been captured. Well that has happened
with our federal government.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yes, yeah, that is precisely the aim of DEI. Diversity
means more people who think like I do. Inclusion means
more people who think like I do. If their color,
if their skin is slightly darker than a tanned golfer.
All the better if they can claim some sort of
I'm queer, which can mean anything in the world you want,

(25:11):
but they think like me, Yes see how inclusive I am.
It's it is a technique of capture of conquest. I
tell you, I find this really depressing that one of
the most important departments in all of the federal government
that is causing so many of the things that I
hate is so one captured and two beyond you know,

(25:34):
you can't really touch it. They're like the untouchables. And
three nobody talks about it and writes about it. He
thinks about it, so it's unlikely to change. I finds
so rooting for Ms Dylan to kick ass in that job,
and it'll it'll do some real good. And you know,
the years time, I'm just afraid Trump's erraticness and wacky
policies and statements is gonna derail his opportunity to do really, really.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Good stuff too soon.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
But you know, asking for a disciplined Trump at this
point in his life and in ours, frankly is kind
of silly. He's almost eighty so and another example not
to depress you, or anything. But I thought this was instructive.
As Chuck Schume is bellowing about the Republicans want to
slap food out of the mouths of babes and enriched

(26:26):
they are billionaires and million.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
And the rest of it.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
The rhetoric around the budget as we try to avoid
a government shut down or shut it down who cares? Anyway,
here's some writing by who is this? Oh, it's the
editorial editorial board of the Wall Street Journal. But welcome
to the ar king details of the budget baseline their premises.

(26:53):
We hope Republicans aren't boxed into bad policy by some
of the realities of the budgeting process. The main goal
Republicans in the current Congress is to extend the twenty
seventeen tax reform provisions that expire at the end of
this year. Is written that is, they want to continue
with current policy, which seems simple enough. But this is
Congress which instead lives by the current law that's quote

(27:14):
baseline over a ten year period. I'll explain, and if
you don't quite get it, that's part of the point.
Because some of those twenty seven twenty seventeen tax provisions
expire within the congressional budget office is ten year window.
The extension of current policy to fill to get to

(27:35):
the end of that ten year window is considered a
budget busting tax cut, even though it would merely prevent
a four and a half trillion dollar tax increase. This
is Republicans scrambling to find offsetting tax increases or spending
cuts to quote unquote pay for an alleged tax cut
that doesn't cut taxes. It's like your fiscal year in

(28:00):
the calendar year, don't overlap or something, and so you've
got to pretend that well, in October November, we need
to cut things down to the bone, when in truth,
all you have to do is keep doing what you're doing.
But the way the system is set up so you don't,
you have to pretend like the higher tax keep think
the current laws a tax increase, so.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Higher taxes would kick in.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
And if you try to stop the higher taxes from
kick in kicking in, that's seen as a tax cut,
even though it would be just holding them steady.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yes, exactly, so.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
So the Republicans have to jump through all sorts of
hoops and budget trickery and the rest of it to
keep the current policy, because on paper, it looks.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Like a huge change in policy.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Wow, and you're gonna have Chuck Schumer yelling at people
that we're trying to you know, I don't know, slap
the insulin out of the hands of the.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Old or something. Ive.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I go around to old folks homes, I slap the
insulin out of their hands, and then I give it
to Billy Airs.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I don't need any insulin take it anyway. The pine
is to deny it to the old.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Well, if there wasn't if there was any point to
this segment, and that's probably enough on a Friday of that.
It's this is also convoluted and complicated. Very few people understand.
Certainly people chanting in, cheering at political rallies don't know
any of this is happening. Don't get me started on
how medicare really works, right, it's dizzying.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
If there's a takeaway from all of this, it would
be shrink government, federal government as much as possible, and
get government as local as you can conceive it to be,
because that's the only way the voters have actual control
over it and there's any accountability.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Man, we like our gambling, we sure do.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
And March Madness is one of the biggest gambling periods
of the entire and the tournament brackets come out on Sunday.
A little some stats on that that are really interesting.
Among all the things on the way, stay here, arm
Strong and Getty.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Sunday isn't here yet, but there are some big conference
championships this weekend. Use winners will automatically punch a tickets
in the Big Dance, and some teams are already shoe ins.
We're going to get right into it first. On the
men's side, Duke, Houston, Auburn, and Florida are the top
ranked teams. The four top ranked teams.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
They will make. Yeah, anytime Duke is one of the
top ranked teams, it's a bad it's a bad time
to be alive. But March Madness, Hey, Duke is them
on display. Folks really gets rolling on Sunday when the
brackets come out. And if you're into sports, you know this.
If you're not into sports, it's about as big a
deal as anything happens. I mean, it's not as big
as the Super Bowl, but it's probably well, it is

(30:48):
second betting wise, and uh and people love it. This year,
they're expecting three point one billion dollars to be bet
legally on just March madness. But the total amount that
is going to be bet in the country is fifteen
point five billion. So even with all the legal betting

(31:11):
that exists everywhere three billion, there's another twelve and a
half billion that are going to be bet illegally.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'm using my finger quotes.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I mean, who's I mean, there's some real it talks
in this article about, you know, for some real offshore
serious betting that is not but the stuff you're doing
at the office where everybody puts in five bucks that
adds up to a ton of money. But is anybody
really worried about cracking down on that?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
No, they are.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I want to see Trump crackdown on it. I'd like
to see ice. There's somebody coming to offices and you know,
cuff people who are handing out brackets.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's disgusting.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Prior to twenty eighteen, you could only bet on sports
in Vegas, But since the courts decided that the states
should be able to decide, there are forty states that
allow legal gambling, and it has exploded legally from where
it was before. Twenty three million more Americans betting on

(32:03):
the tournament this year than two years ago, for instance,
that's a lot more. I feel exactly the same. By
the way, for the bracket, you fill out your bracket,
your odds of getting the bracket completely correct, getting all
sixty three games right, one in nine point two. Quintillion

(32:25):
whatever that is, that's a word I say regularly. I
didn't even know it was a real word. Quintillion, five trillion, No,
five hundred trillion. I don't even know what a thousand
trillion would be. Uh, I don't know. I'd lose track
at that point. It's not very likely you're gonna get

(32:46):
the whole record right to summarize, But I.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Have the same attitude on the whole gambling things I
had on the drug thing. You know, feel free, is it?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
But if you end up in a bad situation, don't
be taking my money because you don't have any money.
When you in year sixty and you ain't got no
money and you need food or housing or whatever. And
I find out when you in your twenties you used
to bet heavily on sports. I don't want you to
get in in my money, see is the deal?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
So yeah, right?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
And it's their own But there's no mechanism for that.
Oh here's the funny thing. I was listening to NPR.
They presented it as, so, is this benefiting states? And
then they went through how much the legalized gambling is
shoring up the coffers of state governments and whether.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
It is or not, and so do you think it
was a good idea?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
It was all run through the lens of does this
make your state government richer or not? Nobody bringing up
the idea at all of maybe people adults ought to
be able to make their own decisions on this, and
it shouldn't be illegal to decide to sad on a sport.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
That was they didn't even bring that up. Is only
does it benefit the state government or not?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
As to whether or not it was a good idea
to rule this way, and that an interesting way to
look at the world. Yeah, I think that's really illuminating.
Yeah about it that sort of people? Yeah, it is
so when they decided no, no, no, states can decide whether
or not they want to have gambling. If you're a lefty,
looked at through it through the lens of is this

(34:15):
going to give more money to the government or not not?
More personal freedom fascinating right. Coming up next hour, the
fight to clean up America's disease universities, how's the immigration
crackdown going?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And is progressivism actually a mental disorder?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I will present a case to you, and you the jury,
are their juries and the sort of thing you the
jury will decide.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
We need to have.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I wonder if the social credit score like they got
in China, maybe someday we can have that in the
United States. So you get to be aged sixteen, you
ain't got no money, but we can look at your
social credit score of how much you gambled in your life,
were spent on cigarettes, or went on fancy vacations you
couldn't afford. I realize that the libertarian and me does
not like anybody keeping track of this sort of thing,

(35:03):
but I'd like to know it as a tax payer
before you get all my money, right exactly? Yeah, your
responsibility score, call it that. No, Sorry, you were wildly irresponsible.
You're not the other people's problem anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Good one, Sary, Armstrong and Getty
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