October 29, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Women are now safe to vote away from husbands in new Harris ad
- Food banks all over country reporting high demand
- Media is now trusted less than congress
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong
and Dat enough He Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Marcus is just sleep.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Biden may be keeping a strong face. The headline from
Axios Harris stiff arms Biden in the final stretch. Days
he's kept open to hit the trail have come and gone,
the campaign reportedly saying we'll get back to you.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I've done a lot of sorts. If we talk all
the time, I'm they're asking me where they think I
should be to help them.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Most Evidently those calls aren't coming from Harris. The New
York Times reports she is gingerly peppered people who are
close to mister Biden. How do you think he's doing?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
She will ask.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Biden's allies say he's concerned the campaign is underestimating his
appeace among working class voters in the rust Bell.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's a non story in my opinion. It's just, you know,
it's an old man whose feelings might be hurt. That
he no longer is relevant to the question. But George W.
Bush didn't campaign with McCain back in two thousand and
eight because he wasn't popular at the time, and he said, yeah,
(01:25):
that's fine. I realized I'd be more of a drag
than a help. Maybe Biden's hurt by this, I don't know,
but Biden would be a drag.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Characterized it quite accurately as a sad old man who
can't accept that he's now worse than irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Which has got to be tough when you've been relevant
for fifty some years. But you know it happens to
all of us. Trump is over an hour into a
press conference. Over an hour. Can you imagine Kamala Harris
standing there with major press taking questions for over an hour? No,
neither can I. It'd be the end of her campaign
probably if she right. Yeah, so, uh. Trump doesn't get
(02:04):
enough credit for that. He takes on adversarial press more
than anybody I can remember in modern presidential history, and
has the whole time.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Part of the reason is because virtually all of the
press is adversarial. I saw it actually claimed the other
day by CNN or somebody. The Trump has done a
number of interviews almost entirely with friendly outlets, which is
just given the context of Kamala that is just shame
shamelessness is kind.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Of their their way of doing business. So here's an
interesting thing I saw develop yesterday. And Katie, you can
weigh on this as the only woman or I'm sorry,
a chest feeding person, vagina owning person. I don't know
what I'm supposed to call you. I don't want to
get on the wrong side of history.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
That wasmit worthy. Bonus hole, that's right. I forgot that
was the actual term.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Ei the woke, that's right. Oh, I forgot for a
cup of coffee. They seriously were saying that this emerged yesterday.
I heard it a bunch of times, the hesitant Harris
voter around abortion. So there's the hesidant Trump voter, which
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seems to be true several cycles in a roll where
Trump does better than the polling, with the idea being
their Trump voters are afraid to say it to pollsters
or something. I don't know. I've never quite understood. It
doesn't make sense to me that why you'd be afraid
to say anything to a polster. But anyway, he has
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performed better than the polls. There's belief that there's a
hesitant Harris voter. Women in specific. They now have ads
mentioning this. It's getting mentioned in all kinds of surrogate speeches. Women,
Michelle Obama. We should have the clip of this Obama
saying this the other night. Women, we know your husbands
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might get really angry if you go and vote for Harris,
but remember you need to stand up for your you know,
protecting your body and women's rights and your daughter's rights
and all this different sort of crap. It's basically saying,
there are a whole bunch of women who are so
afraid of their husbands that they're claiming they'll vote for Trump,
but in secret they're Harris voters. But I guess they
(04:25):
feel like their husband's gonna beat them.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Up or something.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I don't even need to stand it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
We need to get the Michelle Obama clip. But what
she said was, your husband isn't going to be in
the booths with you, right, boyfriend won't be in the
booth with you. You can tell them you voted for Trump,
but you should vote for Harris to protect yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
She said this Friday night. And now I've seen a
whole bunch of different Sarah Goods and Kamala herself and
all kinds of pundits saying Yeah, there are a bunch
of women out there who, you know, if they were
allowed to, they would have vote for Harris, but they're
not allowed to in their household. What are you trying
to say that there are thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds
of thousands, of millions of Harris voters who live in
(05:06):
households that are so oppressive. I mean, I have never
had a relationship like that. I don't know if you have,
where you would be scared to say your opinion out
loud or how your vote. I don't even get it.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, I think it's a specific poke at the Trump voter,
not just their their relationships, but that you know, these
women are married to these Trumpers, and you know, I
don't know, they've been trying to paint men that are
for Trump like monsters this whole time.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
True, That's very, very true. It might be a they
might actually have this view because they have such a distorted,
hateful view of anybody who would vote for Donald Trump,
which has more to do with inflation and the variety
of other immigration than it does any of the stuff
you think racism and misogyny. But so their evil view
of Trump voters as yeah, women just go along with
(05:56):
it because they they live in a Trump household, where
you have to do with the been once. Have you
ever know anybody within one hundred miles of that portrayal?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Have you guys seen one of these ads that they're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
As Yeah, I just I just saw one on YouTube
a second ago, actually before you guys started talking about it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
We'll play it at this hour. It's it's really visual.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, I'll get the last clip, but it's it's it's
definitely showing like the woman would be in some deep
s if she didn't vote for Trump.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah, I agree with you that it's a fairly repugnant idea,
but I don't I'm not sure I can go as
far as you and saying there's nothing there. I think,
given the closeness of the Swing States, if you could
reach a few suburban women and convince them, hey, say
you voted for Trump, just vote for hers. It's it's
(06:50):
it's perverse and sick, but I don't think it's totally crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
But out of fear, like they're physically afraid of their husbands,
or they.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Just don't want to get to hear the guff they
don't want to hear it. Strategically speaking, it's not insane.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I think they believe it. I think they think that
Trump households are like that Handsmaid's tailed, all that crap
that they've been talking about for a decade now.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Mm hmm, craziness. You're just looking for a dozen votes
wherever you can get them. At this point, it's scaring
people into voting, and you know, well, I think powering
them to defy their oppressive husbands.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I guess I would say. I think it's another example
of you're doing more harm than good. You're making me
think and a lot of people who could I would
never vote for Kamala Harris, but people that can't quite
handle Trump, who would think? A few people and know
that's what I'm like as a Trump voter. My wife
doesn't have the right juice what she wants to screw you? Yes,
(07:54):
a pattern of never ending condescension, Yes, never ending condescension.
The Armstrong and Getty show. It used to be one
of our liners. No, never worked for us. No, people
didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Eh.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So ah, what a heck of a croosing argument. You
women who are so scared of your husband's vote. This way.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
The drumbeat of that idiot comedian's idiot joke is the
most important issue in America.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Continues five five stories in The New York Times Today
about it. Five that seems like plenty Byron york Is
taking a look at Playbook DC from Politico, which is
kind of their inside the belt Way every morning. You
got to check it if you're a Politico thing, And
virtually the entire thing is about that stupid joke or
(08:41):
too by that ill advised comedian who took the stage
an hour and a quarter before Trump. That's that's crazy
ore exit polls. Do people believe in exit polls? I
don't remember eh much lately.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I would love to know if it goes Trump way,
either direction it goes, I would like to know what
actually what stuff actually mattered and what didn't. I find
it very hard to believe that this comedian from Sunday
Night is going to be a deciding factor for anyone. Yeah,
I got this.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Note from Bob that I thought was pretty good. You
act as though the comment about Puerto Rico was the
catalyst of something in an outrage that wouldn't have happened
if they weren't set his point is the left was
going to be outraged about something and this is just
what they chose. But it's unquestionable, Bob, that we're just
reporting on what the lefties are trying to get going.
(09:38):
But he does point out that, you know, if you
combine the two worst jokes three, there's maybe forty seconds
of a six and a half hour event.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It was long before Trump took the stage. It was
six and a half hours long. Were you expected to
be there the whole time? I don't know. Wow.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Uh, the media is all in for Harris. They'll spend
things no matter what media creation. The worst part is
that the people from Puerto Rico agree they have a
massive garbage problem, as I was describing the other day.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I don't know. I guess Trump was asked about the
rally during his press conference today. If he said anything interesting,
we will we'll pass that along to you. So Joe
Rogan apparently on his podcast today talked about why Kamala Harris,
why that interview fell apart. He was going to interview
both candidates. Remember there was like a week there where
(10:32):
the talk was she was going to do Joe Rogan.
Trump ended up doing Joe Rogan for two hours. The
only headline I've seen out of this is he said
she wanted to limit to an hour, and he said.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
No, and that he had to come to her well,
and she would laime an hour, but then she'd show
up twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Late, right like she did with Barbara. Ask Brett Berringer,
she wouldn't travel to Austin to be on the show. Nope,
what is that?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Well, then she wanted it to not happen, and right,
that's what. Get an hour and you got to bring
your crew with you? Yeah, no's that's a poison pill.
I think that the hour thing, I think could have
just been a we can't have her out there for more.
For that long, we're doomed, but you have to come
to us. Sounds like a poison pill, Like he won't
agree to that, so then we won't have to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I would agree.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, to do Rogan as Rogan does all his guests
would have been a disastrous idea. They were smart to
find an excuse not to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Absolutely, that would have been a terrible idea with a
with a ten days left at the time, No, that
would have been yeah, and they didn't let her. Smart
strategy by David Bloof or whoever pulls the strings.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And as Trump is doing an hour and a half
press conference in front of the hostile media as we speak,
there will be no backlash to her chickening out on
Joe Rogan, not a bit.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, absolutely not so. Jeff Bezos, second richest man in
the world, owns the Washington Post. Kids, Jeff, that's the
fellow was born in nineteen sixty four. He gives me hope,
gives me hope that we might get some dominant, dominant
media that tries to restore our faith in journalism. And
(12:07):
a piece he wrote in his own paper today, we'll
share that with you this hour.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
One of the few advantages of age is a little
bit of wisdom, you'd like to think, including recognizing, Hey,
I'm an outlier on this.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay, I can live with that.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
But that's why, you know, the world doesn't go quite
the way I think it should. For instance, the Wall
Street Journal with a very good piece about where all
the places where childcare is on the ballot in America,
subsidies for childcare, taxpayer funded childcare, that sort of thing.
And it's just interesting because it is, as usual with
the journal, very well written and researched in a bunch
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of quotes from a bunch of different people, but they
never ever mention that. I think every single woman who
is quoted in this piece as unable to afford daycare
for their children is a single mom. Is raising their
kid without a partner, without a man, or a one
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or I don't know, a talking dog or whatever. It
doesn't matter. And the fundamental question which is unspoken, And
this is not a value judgment on my part, This
is me looking at it almost from a political scientists
point of view, and this is one of the failings
of democracy. You can't hurt people's feelings and like give
them the facts. But we've gone from a society that
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was vastly, vastly two parents raising a child with all
the benefits thereof, to a society that sends the message
quite consistently. It's perfectly fine if you, as a single
mom or single dad, want to have a child, and
I'm not talking about a situation of divorce or being widowed.
You never intended to have a partner that puts you
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in the situation where you cannot afford care for your
child and work in many cases because you don't make
enough money. Therefore tax payers should pay for that child's care.
It's an interesting way to describe how society should work.
Maybe it's a good idea, maybe it's not a good idea.
The interesting part to me is that the questions never asked.
(14:14):
We pretend that that's not the question that we're trying
to answer.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Well, how many of the journalists who would ever write
a story are in the camp of not having two
partners raising a kid? A lot right, right?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
And it reminds me of that big study that was
done to ascertain whether the hormone blockers and puberty blockers
helped kids, and the answer was a resounding no. So
they didn't publish the study because they didn't want their
enemies to quote unquote weaponize it. And I think the
journalists would say, well, I don't want to see you
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weaponize that against single parents. I'm not weaponizing anything. I
just think when a democracy isn't even asking the questions,
that the policy is addressed much less answering. Though, Well,
all right, you're gonna get bad policy anyway. Moving along
unless you have more on that topic. Hunger crisis, food
banks and key swing states reporting increase in demand all
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over the country. They're featuring swing states in particular Pennsylvania, Michigan,
Wisconsin reporting an increase in demand from people waiting in
lines for food and also being forced out of their
homes because they can't afford them anymore. It's all inflation related.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Because I got anything to do with the credit card
limit thingy. People have maxed out their credit cards because
those numbers are astounding. There's got to be some birds
that come home to roost on that one. I would think, sure, yeah,
it doesn't mention that, but that makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Oh, and then just a semi related topic to that,
I was reading and I couldn't find it for some reason,
it escaped me. In the Reno area, where the Armstrong
e Getty Show has enjoyed a great deal of support
for years and years, and we're more and pleased to
be on Reno sparks, they mentioned that it's now very purple.
(16:06):
It's a fifty to fifty metro area politically speaking, and
the primary reason for that, which amuses the hell out
of me, is that so many Californians have moved to Reno. Wow,
now let's go through this. You left California for a
reason right. It was part of it affordability. Now you're
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in Reno, prices are skyrocketing there, but you're voting for
the same people you did in California, which you left.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, I don't get it. Happens over and over and
over again. Speaking of things, you just have to accept.
People don't understand that elections bring policies, and policies bring results.
Is mainstream media about to make a comeback, possibly.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So the Nazi rally the other night Madison Square Garden,
two thirds of Israelis in the latest poll are in
favor of Trump winning. It's not a very good Nazi
rally if two thirds of Israelis are for Trump over.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Hairis in which side has been rife with anti semitism
line Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Also speaking of the Nazi rally, I was in the
arena in Milwaukee when Hulk Hogan gave his speech and
ripped his shirt off to show his Trump T shirt
tanked up and the crowd went wild. It was a
funny moment to be you know. Therefore, But anyway, he
struggled somewhat that day. Well, I didn't see him Friday
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night at Madison Square Garden. But he did the same thing.
When he went to rip off his shirt, he like,
couldn't rip it. Dude, you're seventy one. I think you
got to give up the whole ripping the shirt apart thing,
unless they're gonna make it a crepe paper or something.
Because he can't stand up. There's an old man trying
to tear apart your little shirt. Look, you got to
get a new tear away t shirt company. Yeah, that's
(18:03):
not a good look. It's just too long to struggle
to rip your shirt open. Uh. You probably know if
you're into talk radio and all that sort of stuff.
That the La Times decided not to endorse Kamala Harris.
They didn't endorse Trump, they just failed to endorse anyone.
The daughter of the owner says it's because of Harris's
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stance on Israel. Maybe that's true, maybe it's not. I
don't know now. Then later that day, the Washington Post
announced that they were not going to endorse Kamala Harris
or anyone, and that caused a huge backlash among readers
and people that work for the Washington Post. A bunch
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of people in like the uh in the editorial room
quit and according to NPR today, two hundred thousand people
have canceled their subscriptions of the Washington Post. That's eight
percent of their subscribers have canceled over.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
That for just saying we don't endorse candidates anymore. We
didn't used to. We did for a while, We're not
going to anymore. So that's one of the reasons that
there's an op ed in his own newspaper today from
the owner Jeff Bezos, the world's second richest man. It
says the hard truth, Americans don't trust the news media.
(19:23):
A note from our owner, and it says underneath Jeff
Bezos is the owner of the Washington Post.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So this comes out on the heels of the Kerfluffel
on Friday, but it sure sounds like he's been thinking
about this for a while. Jeff Bezos writes in the
annual public surveys about trust and reputation, journalists in the
media have regularly fallen near the bottom, often just above Congress.
But in this year's Gallup poll, we have managed to
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fall below Congress. Our profession is now the least trusted
of all. Something we are doing is clearly not working. Man.
When you're below Congress in terms of trust, you are
at the bottom. Let me give under how I wonder.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
How the newsroom would react to that simple assertion, that
simple indisputable assertion. Well, that's because Americans are stupid and
they're Nazis.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, we need to we need to be leaders. Maybe
we're not on popped, maybe we're not popular now, but
we'll be leaders and convince people or something. That's a
principled stand. Anyway, back to Jeff Bezos, he right impressed.
Let me give an analogy. Voting machines must meet two requirements.
They must count the vote accurately, and people must believe
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they count the vote accurately. The second requirement is distinct
from and just as important as the first. Likewise, with newspapers,
we must be accurate and we must be believed to
be accurate. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but we
are failing on the second requirement. Most people believe the
media is biased. Anyone who doesn't see this as paying
scant attention to reality and those who fight reality lose reality,
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is an undefeated champion. Love that line. It would be
easy to blame others for our long and continued fall
and credibility and therefore decline and impact. But a victim
mentality will not help. Complaining is not a strategy. We
must work harder to control what we can control to
increase our credibility. By the way, he doesn't mention it
in this piece, but The New York Times reports that
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Bezos is saying they're going to hire more Republican conservative
reporters and opinion writers, which obviously has to happen.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Hey, I'm interested in becoming a Wall Post subscriber already
am for professional reasons, but that sounds great.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
To the specific about the non endorsement, here, writes, presidential
endorsements do nothing to tip the scales of an election.
No undecided voters in Pennsylvania are going to say, I'm
going with newspaper a's endorsement. None. What presidential endorsements actually
do is create a perception of bias, a perception of
non independents. Ending them is a principal decision, and it's
the right one. Eugene Meyer, publisher of The Wappo from
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thirty three to forty six, the same, and he was
right by itself. Declining to endorse presidential candidates is not
enough to move us very far up the trust scale,
but it's a meaningful step in the right direction. I
wish we had made the change earlier than we did,
in a moment of further and and in a moment
further from the election and the emotions around it. That
was inadequate planning and not some intentional strategy. So him
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saying this is our new philosophy, I wish we had
done it earlier is important, gets into a kerf fluffle.
I didn't even know happened. Must have been an internal thing.
And then I'll get to this. While I do not
and will not push my personal interests, I will also
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not allow this paper to stay on autopilot and fade
into irrelevance, overtaken by unresearched podcasts and social media barbs.
Not without a fight. It's too important. The stakes are
too high now more than ever. The world needs a credible, trusted,
independent voice. And where better for the voice to originate
than the capital city the most important country in the world. Oh,
and I like this part. To win this fight, we'll
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have to exercise new muscles. Some changes will be a
return to the past, and some will be new inventions.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, well, I'm looking at the long list of wahpoh
scribblers and editors who are screeching in indignation and have
resigned or whatever. And it's just it's, you know, the
bubbled left media elite utterly convinced that, well, there are
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folks who actually use the term my truth with a
straight face because they have attempted, to, at least in
their own minds, erase the line between opinion and truth,
and so if it's their strong opinion, that's the truth
to them. And they are saying they're deeply disappointed. What
steems me is oh there it is, will not be
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making any endorsement. Dot dot dot were furious. I mean,
if you don't have the ballstone a newspaper, don't, one
Post Opinion employee told this writer. Another said an endorsement.
The non endorsement was an outrageous abdication of responsibility and
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a form of craset consent to a fascist whims that's
so crazy, I'm sure, well right, yeah, I'm sure Jeff
Bezos would say, y'all and that Opinion have been in charge.
You lost seventy seven million dollars last year, seventy seven
million dollars. So tell me again why I ought to
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defer to your opinions.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Why well right, and his thing about I don't want
to be you know, overtaken and become irrelevant to podcasts
and other social media barbs. Yeah, that's exactly the case.
If nobody cares what your paper thinks, you're not actu
doing anything, you weird woke reporters. So what you What
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apparently they'd be happy with is having a very small
number of people who agree with everything they say, and
then they go to cocktail parties and out to eat
and congratulate themselves. They'd be perfectly happy with that. Yeah,
absolutely true. Let's see, I gotta scroll down. Who's this
darcy person.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
There's a bunch of you know, media insider heavyweight to
do his name. I don't know, but I love this.
This is the defense, and the prosecution will rest after
the defense, which is doing a better job than I could,
she said. On one side is an Adolph Hitler praising
autocratic wannabee who is vowed to seek retribution against his
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perceived enemies should he find himself in the back in
the oval office. On the other side is a relatively
run of the mill democratic politician who respects the rule
of law in American Democratic order, right, that is their
neutraless of the race.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I reach my case, your nuts if you actually believe that. Yeah, well,
it's it's a problem the first year you don't endorse,
because it's pretty easy. I don't. I don't think this
is what he's doing at all. But it's pretty easy
to the first year the newspapers don't endorse, to think, Okay,
you're for the other side. You just don't want to
say it out loud. But after a couple of years
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it'll become more clear. No, our policy is just we
don't endorse, because that would be dumb. Our job is
to report the news. If we endorse, by definition, we
are more interested in one side the other than the other.
How obvious is that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Bezos himself for expressed regret that they didn't do it sooner,
not only because it's a good idea, but this close
to the election it feels different.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah. Well, when I when I heard the La Times
didn't endorse Harris, my first thought was, Wow, they actually
prefer Trump, fairly or unfairly. I think it's important that
the two richest people in the world. More importantly, they're
both Americans. The two richest people in the United States,
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Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos seem to be hell bent
on more free speech and trying to play it down
the middle. And the people on the left think Elon's
full of crap, and the people on the right are
going to think Bezos is full of crap. But I
think they're both closer to that than not of what
they want to accomplish.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
People were putting out that both were men of the
center left, only you know, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Right, they both recognize that the country's doomed. If we
don't have some shared news sources, if we all just
go to our own podcasts, radio shows, you know, social
media followings and stuff like that, we're doomed. I run
into people every single day left or right, who say, hey,
did you hear about the whatever? And I haven't because
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they're following some crazy website reporting something that's not true
that I haven't even heard of in the many hours
of media that I take in every day.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Meanwhile, back at the wah Poe, let us know that
democracy dies in darkness. Karen Attiya, who's a Post columnist, said, quote,
keeping in mind that the WAPO endorsed the Democrat every
single time. Of course, it is since they started endorsing
presidential candidates in nineteen seventy six, every single damn time.
As Bezos pointed out, nobody cares anyway. She said, today
(28:28):
has been an absolute stab in the back. What an
insult to those of us who have literally put our
careers and lives on the line to call out threats
to human rights and democracy.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You put your life on the line by writing what
everybody in your newsroom and everybody who reads your paper
agrees with. Yes, I'm you're.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Taking the courageous stand of agreeing with everybody around you.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yes. Wow. And then you go places I'm sure where
everybody pat you on the back and agrees with you. Also,
how brave of you?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And if you don't have the ballstone and newspaper, or
don't Apparently having the balls to own a newspaper includes
putting up with the suicidal policies of your employees to
the tune of nearly eighty million dollars in red ink
per year. I don't quite see your point, you whining communists.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
So what is the story? So Bezos owns the paper?
So who are the guys he hired from Britain that
came in. They're the Rubbisher, the publisher. Anyway, it's a
ceo anyway. I remember when the CEOs came in and
said that. In the newsroom was complaining and they said, look,
nobody's reading your stuff. To me. That was the boo
(29:40):
yah kill shot boom goes to dynamite. I mean, there's
nothing to say beyond that. If you keep going the
direction you're going, you're completely irrelevant. What's the point.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
And that's what's so interesting about the newspaper business. If
this was a record company, there's no way that the
owner would allow the producers or whatever to continue putting
out records nobody wants to listen to.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Or we think polka rap is the most important music.
Nobody's buying it, nobody's listening to it.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
If it John Deere, all the shop foremen were insisting
on building like bicycle tractors that you have to pedal,
and the firm that keeps falling off of them, and
nobody freaking wants them, and huge majorities of Americans say
that's crap, that's worse than Congress.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But John Deere's owners would say, well, what can we do?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Our shop foremen will want to build the bicycle tractors.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
That one example where this could possibly exist because the
employees are saying, you don't have the balls to run
a tractor company. You shouldn't be doing it. Dude. You
didn't get people something they don't want.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
This is my truth here at ja Lied. We believe
in making razors that don't cut whiskers. All of us
on the shop floor agree, and the owners have to say, well, okay,
I guess we'll.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Keep bleeding money.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Seriously, sometimes I slapped my forehead. I think what colors
does this kai in your world? What does reality look
like in your world? So it could end up being
a big deal in a turning point. I hope it
is that in a matter of what two years, Elon
bought Twitter and Bezos decided that at the Wappo they
need to fix everything.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I hope. I hope it matters. We will finish strong next.
So I made steak and corn last night for me
and Henry, kind of a you know, go to sad
single dad sort of meal. Steaks on the grill, corn
on the cob on the grill, and some bread. That's
so fantastic. Yeah, it is fantastic, except if you can
(31:42):
only make three things. It gets a little repetitious. But
so we bought. We didn't have the corn holders, so
we bought the cow. That's right, it's cone. We bought
the corn holders. You know, the little things that are
shaped like a corn. Huh, how clever is that? And
they have the little metal poky things in there and
you jam them in the edge of the corn.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I was having trouble getting it in the narrow end
of the corn, and I was pushed on it and
it slipped and I jabbed it into my other hand,
into my finger, deep into my finger. I still have
the wood. I have blood squirting out of the two holes,
and it's swollen up. Today. I got some sort of
corn tetanus going on. I think corn juice tetanus. I
don't know if that's a thing. Oh, it can't be
(32:24):
good for you. It hurt shockingly much. And as Henry
pointed out, you have salt in your wound. I did.
I'd salted the corn already, and so I got salted
there good. It was just uite, the quite the off
putting thing to have happened right at the dinner table.
Are you up to date on your Titanus shots. I
was wondering about that. How long do they last? Oh,
it's been, like I know at least how long it's
(32:47):
been because the last time I got a tetanus shot,
I was drunk and tripped climbing over a rusty barbed
wire fence, so I had to go get my tennis shot.
But I haven't had a drink in eighteen years, so
it's been at least eighty. Yeah, keep an eye on that.
If my Josh Arsenal lock up and I talk like this,
let me know. I don't think there's any curing you.
(33:09):
At that point, you'll be dead. Look for the barcessities,
the simple fair necessities, like final thoughts to end in
the other show in the Mancessity Mother Nature's recipes, like
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final thoughts from our host Jack and Joe.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
That's a ukulele. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Let's get a final thought from everybody and the crew
to wrap up the show. There is our technical director,
Michael lead us Off. Jack.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Is it true I saw a tweet that you ate
a tower of donuts? Yeah, we got the donut tower
at Red Robin the other day. That thing was freaking good.
We were all shocked at how those donuts where they're
hot and fresh right off the griddle.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
The donut tower and architectural marvel Katie Green are esteemed
newswoman is final thought, Katie All.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I responded to that tweet and I said, dot dot dot,
but a bag of chips is a step too far.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Right, Yeah, speaking of the donut tower at Red Robin,
usually we get the ort, the onion ring tower, which
we call the ORT, and it is caught on at
the restaurant. Now the other waitresses called the ort. But
the donut tower comes with hot caramel to dip it
in or hot chocolate to dip it in. Fudge. Oh man,
that's some good eating.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Later today, I'm looking forward to eating a cake condominium.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Wait, no, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
My final thought is reading the comments on that Jeff
Bezos opinion piece is so revealing. Every single one and
I'm like, fifteen comments in every single one is an
ad hominem attack, an attack on Bezos is a bad
person or a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Not a single damn one addresses his arguments. What would
that's revealing? What would your argument be? Armstrong person? Armstrong
in getty rabbing him another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
So many people who think so little time go to
armstrong e giddy dot com.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
What a great hot lengths for you?
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Pick up a hot Dogs Are Dogs t shirt and
wear it to the Zan Jose State Women's volleyball games
where they have a dude playing.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I can't keep my weight down. Must be my metabolism
or something we'll see tomorrow. God bless America. I'm man
enough to enjoy it. I'm strong and getty.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I've been thinking that we really all need a trim
and hug.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
About I'm gonna stop you, so let's go with a
buy it. It's like a did he freak off. It's
they're all.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Oiled up in their own unctious lesty morality slash ideology,
and they're all having like intellectual orgy sex with each.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Other that I know. Thanks you all very much, Armstrong
and Yetti
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong
and Dat enough He Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Marcus is just sleep.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Biden may be keeping a strong face. The headline from
Axios Harris stiff arms Biden in the final stretch. Days
he's kept open to hit the trail have come and gone,
the campaign reportedly saying we'll get back to you.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I've done a lot of sorts. If we talk all
the time, I'm they're asking me where they think I
should be to help them.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Most Evidently those calls aren't coming from Harris. The New
York Times reports she is gingerly peppered people who are
close to mister Biden. How do you think he's doing?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
She will ask.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Biden's allies say he's concerned the campaign is underestimating his
appeace among working class voters in the rust Bell.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's a non story in my opinion. It's just, you know,
it's an old man whose feelings might be hurt. That
he no longer is relevant to the question. But George W.
Bush didn't campaign with McCain back in two thousand and
eight because he wasn't popular at the time, and he said, yeah,
(01:25):
that's fine. I realized I'd be more of a drag
than a help. Maybe Biden's hurt by this, I don't know,
but Biden would be a drag.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Characterized it quite accurately as a sad old man who
can't accept that he's now worse than irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Which has got to be tough when you've been relevant
for fifty some years. But you know it happens to
all of us. Trump is over an hour into a
press conference. Over an hour. Can you imagine Kamala Harris
standing there with major press taking questions for over an hour? No,
neither can I. It'd be the end of her campaign
probably if she right. Yeah, so, uh. Trump doesn't get
(02:04):
enough credit for that. He takes on adversarial press more
than anybody I can remember in modern presidential history, and
has the whole time.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Part of the reason is because virtually all of the
press is adversarial. I saw it actually claimed the other
day by CNN or somebody. The Trump has done a
number of interviews almost entirely with friendly outlets, which is
just given the context of Kamala that is just shame
shamelessness is kind.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Of their their way of doing business. So here's an
interesting thing I saw develop yesterday. And Katie, you can
weigh on this as the only woman or I'm sorry,
a chest feeding person, vagina owning person. I don't know
what I'm supposed to call you. I don't want to
get on the wrong side of history.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
That wasmit worthy. Bonus hole, that's right. I forgot that
was the actual term.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Ei the woke, that's right. Oh, I forgot for a
cup of coffee. They seriously were saying that this emerged yesterday.
I heard it a bunch of times, the hesitant Harris
voter around abortion. So there's the hesidant Trump voter, which
(03:21):
seems to be true several cycles in a roll where
Trump does better than the polling, with the idea being
their Trump voters are afraid to say it to pollsters
or something. I don't know. I've never quite understood. It
doesn't make sense to me that why you'd be afraid
to say anything to a polster. But anyway, he has
(03:42):
performed better than the polls. There's belief that there's a
hesitant Harris voter. Women in specific. They now have ads
mentioning this. It's getting mentioned in all kinds of surrogate speeches. Women,
Michelle Obama. We should have the clip of this Obama
saying this the other night. Women, we know your husbands
(04:04):
might get really angry if you go and vote for Harris,
but remember you need to stand up for your you know,
protecting your body and women's rights and your daughter's rights
and all this different sort of crap. It's basically saying,
there are a whole bunch of women who are so
afraid of their husbands that they're claiming they'll vote for Trump,
but in secret they're Harris voters. But I guess they
(04:25):
feel like their husband's gonna beat them.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Up or something.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I don't even need to stand it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
We need to get the Michelle Obama clip. But what
she said was, your husband isn't going to be in
the booths with you, right, boyfriend won't be in the
booth with you. You can tell them you voted for Trump,
but you should vote for Harris to protect yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
She said this Friday night. And now I've seen a
whole bunch of different Sarah Goods and Kamala herself and
all kinds of pundits saying Yeah, there are a bunch
of women out there who, you know, if they were
allowed to, they would have vote for Harris, but they're
not allowed to in their household. What are you trying
to say that there are thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds
of thousands, of millions of Harris voters who live in
(05:06):
households that are so oppressive. I mean, I have never
had a relationship like that. I don't know if you have,
where you would be scared to say your opinion out
loud or how your vote. I don't even get it.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, I think it's a specific poke at the Trump voter,
not just their their relationships, but that you know, these
women are married to these Trumpers, and you know, I
don't know, they've been trying to paint men that are
for Trump like monsters this whole time.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
True, That's very, very true. It might be a they
might actually have this view because they have such a distorted,
hateful view of anybody who would vote for Donald Trump,
which has more to do with inflation and the variety
of other immigration than it does any of the stuff
you think racism and misogyny. But so their evil view
of Trump voters as yeah, women just go along with
(05:56):
it because they they live in a Trump household, where
you have to do with the been once. Have you
ever know anybody within one hundred miles of that portrayal?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Have you guys seen one of these ads that they're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
As Yeah, I just I just saw one on YouTube
a second ago, actually before you guys started talking about it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
We'll play it at this hour. It's it's really visual.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, I'll get the last clip, but it's it's it's
definitely showing like the woman would be in some deep
s if she didn't vote for Trump.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah, I agree with you that it's a fairly repugnant idea,
but I don't I'm not sure I can go as
far as you and saying there's nothing there. I think,
given the closeness of the Swing States, if you could
reach a few suburban women and convince them, hey, say
you voted for Trump, just vote for hers. It's it's
(06:50):
it's perverse and sick, but I don't think it's totally crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
But out of fear, like they're physically afraid of their husbands,
or they.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Just don't want to get to hear the guff they
don't want to hear it. Strategically speaking, it's not insane.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I think they believe it. I think they think that
Trump households are like that Handsmaid's tailed, all that crap
that they've been talking about for a decade now.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Mm hmm, craziness. You're just looking for a dozen votes
wherever you can get them. At this point, it's scaring
people into voting, and you know, well, I think powering
them to defy their oppressive husbands.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I guess I would say. I think it's another example
of you're doing more harm than good. You're making me
think and a lot of people who could I would
never vote for Kamala Harris, but people that can't quite
handle Trump, who would think? A few people and know
that's what I'm like as a Trump voter. My wife
doesn't have the right juice what she wants to screw you? Yes,
(07:54):
a pattern of never ending condescension, Yes, never ending condescension.
The Armstrong and Getty show. It used to be one
of our liners. No, never worked for us. No, people
didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Eh.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So ah, what a heck of a croosing argument. You
women who are so scared of your husband's vote. This way.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
The drumbeat of that idiot comedian's idiot joke is the
most important issue in America.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Continues five five stories in The New York Times Today
about it. Five that seems like plenty Byron york Is
taking a look at Playbook DC from Politico, which is
kind of their inside the belt Way every morning. You
got to check it if you're a Politico thing, And
virtually the entire thing is about that stupid joke or
(08:41):
too by that ill advised comedian who took the stage
an hour and a quarter before Trump. That's that's crazy
ore exit polls. Do people believe in exit polls? I
don't remember eh much lately.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I would love to know if it goes Trump way,
either direction it goes, I would like to know what
actually what stuff actually mattered and what didn't. I find
it very hard to believe that this comedian from Sunday
Night is going to be a deciding factor for anyone. Yeah,
I got this.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Note from Bob that I thought was pretty good. You
act as though the comment about Puerto Rico was the
catalyst of something in an outrage that wouldn't have happened
if they weren't set his point is the left was
going to be outraged about something and this is just
what they chose. But it's unquestionable, Bob, that we're just
reporting on what the lefties are trying to get going.
(09:38):
But he does point out that, you know, if you
combine the two worst jokes three, there's maybe forty seconds
of a six and a half hour event.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It was long before Trump took the stage. It was
six and a half hours long. Were you expected to
be there the whole time? I don't know. Wow.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Uh, the media is all in for Harris. They'll spend
things no matter what media creation. The worst part is
that the people from Puerto Rico agree they have a
massive garbage problem, as I was describing the other day.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I don't know. I guess Trump was asked about the
rally during his press conference today. If he said anything interesting,
we will we'll pass that along to you. So Joe
Rogan apparently on his podcast today talked about why Kamala Harris,
why that interview fell apart. He was going to interview
both candidates. Remember there was like a week there where
(10:32):
the talk was she was going to do Joe Rogan.
Trump ended up doing Joe Rogan for two hours. The
only headline I've seen out of this is he said
she wanted to limit to an hour, and he said.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
No, and that he had to come to her well,
and she would laime an hour, but then she'd show
up twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Late, right like she did with Barbara. Ask Brett Berringer,
she wouldn't travel to Austin to be on the show. Nope,
what is that?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Well, then she wanted it to not happen, and right,
that's what. Get an hour and you got to bring
your crew with you? Yeah, no's that's a poison pill.
I think that the hour thing, I think could have
just been a we can't have her out there for more.
For that long, we're doomed, but you have to come
to us. Sounds like a poison pill, Like he won't
agree to that, so then we won't have to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I would agree.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, to do Rogan as Rogan does all his guests
would have been a disastrous idea. They were smart to
find an excuse not to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Absolutely, that would have been a terrible idea with a
with a ten days left at the time, No, that
would have been yeah, and they didn't let her. Smart
strategy by David Bloof or whoever pulls the strings.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And as Trump is doing an hour and a half
press conference in front of the hostile media as we speak,
there will be no backlash to her chickening out on
Joe Rogan, not a bit.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, absolutely not so. Jeff Bezos, second richest man in
the world, owns the Washington Post. Kids, Jeff, that's the
fellow was born in nineteen sixty four. He gives me hope,
gives me hope that we might get some dominant, dominant
media that tries to restore our faith in journalism. And
(12:07):
a piece he wrote in his own paper today, we'll
share that with you this hour.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
One of the few advantages of age is a little
bit of wisdom, you'd like to think, including recognizing, Hey,
I'm an outlier on this.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay, I can live with that.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
But that's why, you know, the world doesn't go quite
the way I think it should. For instance, the Wall
Street Journal with a very good piece about where all
the places where childcare is on the ballot in America,
subsidies for childcare, taxpayer funded childcare, that sort of thing.
And it's just interesting because it is, as usual with
the journal, very well written and researched in a bunch
(12:45):
of quotes from a bunch of different people, but they
never ever mention that. I think every single woman who
is quoted in this piece as unable to afford daycare
for their children is a single mom. Is raising their
kid without a partner, without a man, or a one
(13:05):
or I don't know, a talking dog or whatever. It
doesn't matter. And the fundamental question which is unspoken, And
this is not a value judgment on my part, This
is me looking at it almost from a political scientists
point of view, and this is one of the failings
of democracy. You can't hurt people's feelings and like give
them the facts. But we've gone from a society that
(13:28):
was vastly, vastly two parents raising a child with all
the benefits thereof, to a society that sends the message
quite consistently. It's perfectly fine if you, as a single
mom or single dad, want to have a child, and
I'm not talking about a situation of divorce or being widowed.
You never intended to have a partner that puts you
(13:51):
in the situation where you cannot afford care for your
child and work in many cases because you don't make
enough money. Therefore tax payers should pay for that child's care.
It's an interesting way to describe how society should work.
Maybe it's a good idea, maybe it's not a good idea.
The interesting part to me is that the questions never asked.
(14:14):
We pretend that that's not the question that we're trying
to answer.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Well, how many of the journalists who would ever write
a story are in the camp of not having two
partners raising a kid? A lot right, right?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
And it reminds me of that big study that was
done to ascertain whether the hormone blockers and puberty blockers
helped kids, and the answer was a resounding no. So
they didn't publish the study because they didn't want their
enemies to quote unquote weaponize it. And I think the
journalists would say, well, I don't want to see you
(14:50):
weaponize that against single parents. I'm not weaponizing anything. I
just think when a democracy isn't even asking the questions,
that the policy is addressed much less answering. Though, Well,
all right, you're gonna get bad policy anyway. Moving along
unless you have more on that topic. Hunger crisis, food
banks and key swing states reporting increase in demand all
(15:12):
over the country. They're featuring swing states in particular Pennsylvania, Michigan,
Wisconsin reporting an increase in demand from people waiting in
lines for food and also being forced out of their
homes because they can't afford them anymore. It's all inflation related.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Because I got anything to do with the credit card
limit thingy. People have maxed out their credit cards because
those numbers are astounding. There's got to be some birds
that come home to roost on that one. I would think, sure, yeah,
it doesn't mention that, but that makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Oh, and then just a semi related topic to that,
I was reading and I couldn't find it for some reason,
it escaped me. In the Reno area, where the Armstrong
e Getty Show has enjoyed a great deal of support
for years and years, and we're more and pleased to
be on Reno sparks, they mentioned that it's now very purple.
(16:06):
It's a fifty to fifty metro area politically speaking, and
the primary reason for that, which amuses the hell out
of me, is that so many Californians have moved to Reno. Wow,
now let's go through this. You left California for a
reason right. It was part of it affordability. Now you're
(16:29):
in Reno, prices are skyrocketing there, but you're voting for
the same people you did in California, which you left.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, I don't get it. Happens over and over and
over again. Speaking of things, you just have to accept.
People don't understand that elections bring policies, and policies bring results.
Is mainstream media about to make a comeback, possibly.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So the Nazi rally the other night Madison Square Garden,
two thirds of Israelis in the latest poll are in
favor of Trump winning. It's not a very good Nazi
rally if two thirds of Israelis are for Trump over.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Hairis in which side has been rife with anti semitism
line Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Also speaking of the Nazi rally, I was in the
arena in Milwaukee when Hulk Hogan gave his speech and
ripped his shirt off to show his Trump T shirt
tanked up and the crowd went wild. It was a
funny moment to be you know. Therefore, But anyway, he
struggled somewhat that day. Well, I didn't see him Friday
(17:41):
night at Madison Square Garden. But he did the same thing.
When he went to rip off his shirt, he like,
couldn't rip it. Dude, you're seventy one. I think you
got to give up the whole ripping the shirt apart thing,
unless they're gonna make it a crepe paper or something.
Because he can't stand up. There's an old man trying
to tear apart your little shirt. Look, you got to
get a new tear away t shirt company. Yeah, that's
(18:03):
not a good look. It's just too long to struggle
to rip your shirt open. Uh. You probably know if
you're into talk radio and all that sort of stuff.
That the La Times decided not to endorse Kamala Harris.
They didn't endorse Trump, they just failed to endorse anyone.
The daughter of the owner says it's because of Harris's
(18:24):
stance on Israel. Maybe that's true, maybe it's not. I
don't know now. Then later that day, the Washington Post
announced that they were not going to endorse Kamala Harris
or anyone, and that caused a huge backlash among readers
and people that work for the Washington Post. A bunch
(18:44):
of people in like the uh in the editorial room
quit and according to NPR today, two hundred thousand people
have canceled their subscriptions of the Washington Post. That's eight
percent of their subscribers have canceled over.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
That for just saying we don't endorse candidates anymore. We
didn't used to. We did for a while, We're not
going to anymore. So that's one of the reasons that
there's an op ed in his own newspaper today from
the owner Jeff Bezos, the world's second richest man. It
says the hard truth, Americans don't trust the news media.
(19:23):
A note from our owner, and it says underneath Jeff
Bezos is the owner of the Washington Post.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So this comes out on the heels of the Kerfluffel
on Friday, but it sure sounds like he's been thinking
about this for a while. Jeff Bezos writes in the
annual public surveys about trust and reputation, journalists in the
media have regularly fallen near the bottom, often just above Congress.
But in this year's Gallup poll, we have managed to
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fall below Congress. Our profession is now the least trusted
of all. Something we are doing is clearly not working. Man.
When you're below Congress in terms of trust, you are
at the bottom. Let me give under how I wonder.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
How the newsroom would react to that simple assertion, that
simple indisputable assertion. Well, that's because Americans are stupid and
they're Nazis.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, we need to we need to be leaders. Maybe
we're not on popped, maybe we're not popular now, but
we'll be leaders and convince people or something. That's a
principled stand. Anyway, back to Jeff Bezos, he right impressed.
Let me give an analogy. Voting machines must meet two requirements.
They must count the vote accurately, and people must believe
(20:34):
they count the vote accurately. The second requirement is distinct
from and just as important as the first. Likewise, with newspapers,
we must be accurate and we must be believed to
be accurate. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but we
are failing on the second requirement. Most people believe the
media is biased. Anyone who doesn't see this as paying
scant attention to reality and those who fight reality lose reality,
(20:57):
is an undefeated champion. Love that line. It would be
easy to blame others for our long and continued fall
and credibility and therefore decline and impact. But a victim
mentality will not help. Complaining is not a strategy. We
must work harder to control what we can control to
increase our credibility. By the way, he doesn't mention it
in this piece, but The New York Times reports that
(21:18):
Bezos is saying they're going to hire more Republican conservative
reporters and opinion writers, which obviously has to happen.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Hey, I'm interested in becoming a Wall Post subscriber already
am for professional reasons, but that sounds great.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
To the specific about the non endorsement, here, writes, presidential
endorsements do nothing to tip the scales of an election.
No undecided voters in Pennsylvania are going to say, I'm
going with newspaper a's endorsement. None. What presidential endorsements actually
do is create a perception of bias, a perception of
non independents. Ending them is a principal decision, and it's
the right one. Eugene Meyer, publisher of The Wappo from
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thirty three to forty six, the same, and he was
right by itself. Declining to endorse presidential candidates is not
enough to move us very far up the trust scale,
but it's a meaningful step in the right direction. I
wish we had made the change earlier than we did,
in a moment of further and and in a moment
further from the election and the emotions around it. That
was inadequate planning and not some intentional strategy. So him
(22:24):
saying this is our new philosophy, I wish we had
done it earlier is important, gets into a kerf fluffle.
I didn't even know happened. Must have been an internal thing.
And then I'll get to this. While I do not
and will not push my personal interests, I will also
(22:45):
not allow this paper to stay on autopilot and fade
into irrelevance, overtaken by unresearched podcasts and social media barbs.
Not without a fight. It's too important. The stakes are
too high now more than ever. The world needs a credible, trusted,
independent voice. And where better for the voice to originate
than the capital city the most important country in the world. Oh,
and I like this part. To win this fight, we'll
(23:07):
have to exercise new muscles. Some changes will be a
return to the past, and some will be new inventions.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, well, I'm looking at the long list of wahpoh
scribblers and editors who are screeching in indignation and have
resigned or whatever. And it's just it's, you know, the
bubbled left media elite utterly convinced that, well, there are
(23:34):
folks who actually use the term my truth with a
straight face because they have attempted, to, at least in
their own minds, erase the line between opinion and truth,
and so if it's their strong opinion, that's the truth
to them. And they are saying they're deeply disappointed. What
steems me is oh there it is, will not be
(23:57):
making any endorsement. Dot dot dot were furious. I mean,
if you don't have the ballstone a newspaper, don't, one
Post Opinion employee told this writer. Another said an endorsement.
The non endorsement was an outrageous abdication of responsibility and
(24:17):
a form of craset consent to a fascist whims that's
so crazy, I'm sure, well right, yeah, I'm sure Jeff
Bezos would say, y'all and that Opinion have been in charge.
You lost seventy seven million dollars last year, seventy seven
million dollars. So tell me again why I ought to
(24:40):
defer to your opinions.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Why well right, and his thing about I don't want
to be you know, overtaken and become irrelevant to podcasts
and other social media barbs. Yeah, that's exactly the case.
If nobody cares what your paper thinks, you're not actu
doing anything, you weird woke reporters. So what you What
(25:04):
apparently they'd be happy with is having a very small
number of people who agree with everything they say, and
then they go to cocktail parties and out to eat
and congratulate themselves. They'd be perfectly happy with that. Yeah,
absolutely true. Let's see, I gotta scroll down. Who's this
darcy person.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
There's a bunch of you know, media insider heavyweight to
do his name. I don't know, but I love this.
This is the defense, and the prosecution will rest after
the defense, which is doing a better job than I could,
she said. On one side is an Adolph Hitler praising
autocratic wannabee who is vowed to seek retribution against his
(25:45):
perceived enemies should he find himself in the back in
the oval office. On the other side is a relatively
run of the mill democratic politician who respects the rule
of law in American Democratic order, right, that is their
neutraless of the race.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I reach my case, your nuts if you actually believe that. Yeah, well,
it's it's a problem the first year you don't endorse,
because it's pretty easy. I don't. I don't think this
is what he's doing at all. But it's pretty easy
to the first year the newspapers don't endorse, to think, Okay,
you're for the other side. You just don't want to
say it out loud. But after a couple of years
(26:24):
it'll become more clear. No, our policy is just we
don't endorse, because that would be dumb. Our job is
to report the news. If we endorse, by definition, we
are more interested in one side the other than the other.
How obvious is that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Bezos himself for expressed regret that they didn't do it sooner,
not only because it's a good idea, but this close
to the election it feels different.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah. Well, when I when I heard the La Times
didn't endorse Harris, my first thought was, Wow, they actually
prefer Trump, fairly or unfairly. I think it's important that
the two richest people in the world. More importantly, they're
both Americans. The two richest people in the United States,
(27:07):
Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos seem to be hell bent
on more free speech and trying to play it down
the middle. And the people on the left think Elon's
full of crap, and the people on the right are
going to think Bezos is full of crap. But I
think they're both closer to that than not of what
they want to accomplish.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
People were putting out that both were men of the
center left, only you know, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Right, they both recognize that the country's doomed. If we
don't have some shared news sources, if we all just
go to our own podcasts, radio shows, you know, social
media followings and stuff like that, we're doomed. I run
into people every single day left or right, who say, hey,
did you hear about the whatever? And I haven't because
(27:53):
they're following some crazy website reporting something that's not true
that I haven't even heard of in the many hours
of media that I take in every day.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Meanwhile, back at the wah Poe, let us know that
democracy dies in darkness. Karen Attiya, who's a Post columnist, said, quote,
keeping in mind that the WAPO endorsed the Democrat every
single time. Of course, it is since they started endorsing
presidential candidates in nineteen seventy six, every single damn time.
As Bezos pointed out, nobody cares anyway. She said, today
(28:28):
has been an absolute stab in the back. What an
insult to those of us who have literally put our
careers and lives on the line to call out threats
to human rights and democracy.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You put your life on the line by writing what
everybody in your newsroom and everybody who reads your paper
agrees with. Yes, I'm you're.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Taking the courageous stand of agreeing with everybody around you.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yes. Wow. And then you go places I'm sure where
everybody pat you on the back and agrees with you. Also,
how brave of you?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And if you don't have the ballstone and newspaper, or
don't Apparently having the balls to own a newspaper includes
putting up with the suicidal policies of your employees to
the tune of nearly eighty million dollars in red ink
per year. I don't quite see your point, you whining communists.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
So what is the story? So Bezos owns the paper?
So who are the guys he hired from Britain that
came in. They're the Rubbisher, the publisher. Anyway, it's a
ceo anyway. I remember when the CEOs came in and
said that. In the newsroom was complaining and they said, look,
nobody's reading your stuff. To me. That was the boo
(29:40):
yah kill shot boom goes to dynamite. I mean, there's
nothing to say beyond that. If you keep going the
direction you're going, you're completely irrelevant. What's the point.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
And that's what's so interesting about the newspaper business. If
this was a record company, there's no way that the
owner would allow the producers or whatever to continue putting
out records nobody wants to listen to.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Or we think polka rap is the most important music.
Nobody's buying it, nobody's listening to it.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
If it John Deere, all the shop foremen were insisting
on building like bicycle tractors that you have to pedal,
and the firm that keeps falling off of them, and
nobody freaking wants them, and huge majorities of Americans say
that's crap, that's worse than Congress.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But John Deere's owners would say, well, what can we do?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Our shop foremen will want to build the bicycle tractors.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
That one example where this could possibly exist because the
employees are saying, you don't have the balls to run
a tractor company. You shouldn't be doing it. Dude. You
didn't get people something they don't want.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
This is my truth here at ja Lied. We believe
in making razors that don't cut whiskers. All of us
on the shop floor agree, and the owners have to say, well, okay,
I guess we'll.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Keep bleeding money.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Seriously, sometimes I slapped my forehead. I think what colors
does this kai in your world? What does reality look
like in your world? So it could end up being
a big deal in a turning point. I hope it
is that in a matter of what two years, Elon
bought Twitter and Bezos decided that at the Wappo they
need to fix everything.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I hope. I hope it matters. We will finish strong next.
So I made steak and corn last night for me
and Henry, kind of a you know, go to sad
single dad sort of meal. Steaks on the grill, corn
on the cob on the grill, and some bread. That's
so fantastic. Yeah, it is fantastic, except if you can
(31:42):
only make three things. It gets a little repetitious. But
so we bought. We didn't have the corn holders, so
we bought the cow. That's right, it's cone. We bought
the corn holders. You know, the little things that are
shaped like a corn. Huh, how clever is that? And
they have the little metal poky things in there and
you jam them in the edge of the corn.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I was having trouble getting it in the narrow end
of the corn, and I was pushed on it and
it slipped and I jabbed it into my other hand,
into my finger, deep into my finger. I still have
the wood. I have blood squirting out of the two holes,
and it's swollen up. Today. I got some sort of
corn tetanus going on. I think corn juice tetanus. I
don't know if that's a thing. Oh, it can't be
(32:24):
good for you. It hurt shockingly much. And as Henry
pointed out, you have salt in your wound. I did.
I'd salted the corn already, and so I got salted
there good. It was just uite, the quite the off
putting thing to have happened right at the dinner table.
Are you up to date on your Titanus shots. I
was wondering about that. How long do they last? Oh,
it's been, like I know at least how long it's
(32:47):
been because the last time I got a tetanus shot,
I was drunk and tripped climbing over a rusty barbed
wire fence, so I had to go get my tennis shot.
But I haven't had a drink in eighteen years, so
it's been at least eighty. Yeah, keep an eye on that.
If my Josh Arsenal lock up and I talk like this,
let me know. I don't think there's any curing you.
(33:09):
At that point, you'll be dead. Look for the barcessities,
the simple fair necessities, like final thoughts to end in
the other show in the Mancessity Mother Nature's recipes, like
(33:32):
final thoughts from our host Jack and Joe.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
That's a ukulele. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Let's get a final thought from everybody and the crew
to wrap up the show. There is our technical director,
Michael lead us Off. Jack.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Is it true I saw a tweet that you ate
a tower of donuts? Yeah, we got the donut tower
at Red Robin the other day. That thing was freaking good.
We were all shocked at how those donuts where they're
hot and fresh right off the griddle.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
The donut tower and architectural marvel Katie Green are esteemed
newswoman is final thought, Katie All.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I responded to that tweet and I said, dot dot dot,
but a bag of chips is a step too far.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Right, Yeah, speaking of the donut tower at Red Robin,
usually we get the ort, the onion ring tower, which
we call the ORT, and it is caught on at
the restaurant. Now the other waitresses called the ort. But
the donut tower comes with hot caramel to dip it
in or hot chocolate to dip it in. Fudge. Oh man,
that's some good eating.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Later today, I'm looking forward to eating a cake condominium.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Wait, no, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
My final thought is reading the comments on that Jeff
Bezos opinion piece is so revealing. Every single one and
I'm like, fifteen comments in every single one is an
ad hominem attack, an attack on Bezos is a bad
person or a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Not a single damn one addresses his arguments. What would
that's revealing? What would your argument be? Armstrong person? Armstrong
in getty rabbing him another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
So many people who think so little time go to
armstrong e giddy dot com.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
What a great hot lengths for you?
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Pick up a hot Dogs Are Dogs t shirt and
wear it to the Zan Jose State Women's volleyball games
where they have a dude playing.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I can't keep my weight down. Must be my metabolism
or something we'll see tomorrow. God bless America. I'm man
enough to enjoy it. I'm strong and getty.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I've been thinking that we really all need a trim
and hug.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
About I'm gonna stop you, so let's go with a
buy it. It's like a did he freak off. It's
they're all.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Oiled up in their own unctious lesty morality slash ideology,
and they're all having like intellectual orgy sex with each.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Other that I know. Thanks you all very much, Armstrong
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