June 10, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour Two of A&G features...
- How will A-I change the job market...
- Why does Joe feel as though he's been punched?...
- CA Gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton talks about the General Election...
- Wemby's Euro-centric attitude towards basketball.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty arm Strong
and Katty and he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well some business news.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yesterday was Tim Cook's final product announcement as Apple CEO. Yeah,
and his big reveal was an AI powered serie.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm not sure it's such a great idea. Take a
look at this, Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Siri, text Lisa.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
That's a great idea, Dan, Texting your girlfriend Lisa is
not just a smart way to get in touch with her,
it's also a brilliant way to reach her.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
If you want, I can draft a message for you now.
Oh no, I don't need the whole AI spiel.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Just please just.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Text her totally. Hear you, Dan, you want to send
a text to Lisa.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It sounds like you're dialed in on the problem and
you're ready to execute. I'm ready to dive in on
the Lisa text whenever you're ready.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yes, Yes, just dive in.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Sounds good. Say the word and I'll get to work.
Text text Lisa.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Text mexs Lisa is a Mexican restaurant in your area.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Would you like directions too?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh, my god, just do it.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Just send the text to Lisa, let me know, forget it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I don't need you undone.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Texting Lisa, I don't need you.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Siri.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yep, it worse. Oh what a great pun. Oh I
like the tag Siri. Yep, we made it worse. That
is true, though, that's the thing. I hate him out it.
Just quit with the fawning this and that. Just give
me the answer, or do what I ask you to do. Yeah,
it's the summer saying the new series underwhelming and apple
(01:48):
Stock dropped. I haven't tried it. I don't know. No,
I don't know either. Don't tend to trust those things.
Speaking of AI, at some point I had to pay
off my medical breakthrough thanks to a chatbot. Not that
you want to hear about my minor medical problems, but
it really is interesting. And yes, doctors who are listening,
I realize you can misdiagnose using chat pots, but I
(02:09):
thought this was super interesting. The Wall Street Journal got
together sixteen well known, respected economists to ask them how
AI will change the job market and how humans ought
to prepare and you know, the introduction? Do I even
need the introduction? It's one of the most pressing questions
facing the US economy today, Companies pouring unthinkable amounts some money,
(02:31):
and data centers ruling out AI tools, rethinking what workers
they need. Americans are anxious and excited about the developments.
Blah blah blah. So they asked a bunch of questions
to these folks, what AI. That's a poor start, the
first damn word? I mean, is there any point in continuing?
(02:56):
Let's go with will will AI lead to net job
losses or job growth across the economy? Job losses or
job growth? Eight response or obviously, no change was one
of the options. No change set eight of them out
of how many again sixteen sixteen? So half said no change.
That seems like a cop out answer. Well, I think
(03:18):
when you dig into the answers, it'll grow over here
and shrink over there, but not a significant change. But
I agree with you. I'm like, no change. What net
loss to net growth is five to two? So the
biggest thing that's ever happened happens and there's no change.
If I had that hard to believe, yeah, yeah, But
(03:39):
those who were willing to hazard a guess it was
five to two loss over again. What does history suggest
will happen to workers displaced by a I, and you
had a nice variety of well they'll learn similar jobs,
or there'll actually be more productive and blah blah blah,
they'll switch. But I liked this one from Rebecca Henderson
(04:00):
and who's a professor at Harvard Business School. I read
the history of suggesting that if this is as much
of a disruption as I expect, the workers end up
getting very, very angry and changing the politics. Of course,
I have no idea. I don't think we've ever really
seen anything moving with this scale and speed before. It's
going to be a wild ride. Yes, indeed, the scale end,
(04:22):
the speed is it's one hundred times faster than the
Industrial Revolution anyway, so nobody's really sure. It'll vary on
who you are. Will AI meaningfully bolster labor productivity? Fifteen
to zero? Yes, number sixteen apparently couldn't be bothered to
answer because reasonable question. But man, when the super rich
(04:48):
start talking about it, it will have more productivity. Okay, that's
not really The question I'm answering for my kids is
whether the country is going to be we're all ready
to the number one economic engine in the world, will
be more productive fantastic. How about will there be any
jobs for anybody? That's the question? And how will the
wealth be concentrated? Yeah, which is you know sometime we've
(05:08):
talked about at fair length, is AI already impacting the
labor market? And how about in five years? Really interesting
answer is too long to get into fully, But like
this fellow who's a University of Toronto School of Management professor,
we are currently in the between times. We see the
potential of AI, but our organizational systems haven't fully adjusted.
Over the next five to ten years, at least one
(05:30):
leading company in each market will likely figure out how
to transition to a system solution that is much more productive.
For example, instead of an insurer simply paying out after
an accident to the extent that they do pastards, they
may shift their value proposition from repair and replace to
predict and prevent. The labor impact will shift from doing
things faster to doing different things, requiring a significant reorganization
(05:53):
of human roles. I think that's a good and a
smart answer. A significant reorganization of human roles. Yyp yipes
is right and in the blank of an eye. Yeah,
Jason Furman, who you may know, he was on the
White House Council of Economic Advisors, I think in the
Obama years says we're currently seeing little or no impact
of AI on the labor market. You can't say no impact.
(06:15):
That's not true. But so far it's not much. Let's
get to these These guys are all smarter and women.
I assume there's women economists. They're all smarter than me.
But to say no impact so far, so YadA, YadA, YadA.
Come on, it is absolutely worth every time you quote
(06:37):
a professor of any sort. It's worth mentioning the Ivory
Tower filter. How they think they perceive the real world
based on their studies and their surveys and their mathematicians skills.
But they don't live with us. I was going to
say at the beginning, but I want to take the
fun out of this is economists are often wrong. And
(06:59):
this is the most uh you have to guess sort
of story I can ever remember in talking about the economy.
The economy. This isn't oil or wheat or something where
we have decades of an idea of this or that,
we have no idea when or what none. So I
(07:20):
mean they are really really guessing and then for some
for purpose that we haven't seen much changer. Okay, well,
you know, maybe that's true, but so so so what
did you see any of those graduation speeches where anybody
mentioned AI and everyone boo. Yeah, so it's had some
effect on people, and not only as we've discussed. Are
we going to have to deal with the dizzying pace
(07:42):
of it? But nobody knows what it is? Yeah, exactly,
we don't. You mentioned developments and agriculture or the use
of internal combustion engines or stuff like that. You could
extrapolate their adoption across an industry pretty easily. This is
you don't even know what Frankenstein's monster looks like. Anyway,
I like this though. What kind of workers are most well,
I liked it and I hated it? What kind of
(08:03):
workers are most likely to benefit from or be hurt
by the spread of AI? And this one guy from
the University of Michigan says, I think of AI as
doing cognitive work. So this is a revolution coming squarely
at white collar workers. I now know what blue collar
workers felt like in the nineteen seventies. Wow, And several
(08:23):
of them hit things you've heard before. Routine information processing
rules like adjusting insurance claims, translating documents, writing standard ad
copy face genuine displacement risk. Let's see a couple more.
Will AI widen or narrow income inequality between highly educated
and less educated workers? Widen one? Seven to five? Really
(08:48):
no change? Were two but only seven to five? I
think I am on the widen side. Well, if it's
going to hit college graduates, white collar workers more and
they don't have jobs, why aren't why aren't their salaries
going to come back down closer to blue collar workers? Yeah,
(09:13):
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(10:19):
I love AI discussions like this, but I do know
for a fact because I've read it, I've listened to
the podcast. The smartest people in the world on AI
are often one hundred and eighty degrees apart on this
will doom the world, end humanity versus it is never
actually even gonna happen, and everything in between. So that's
(10:43):
quite a wide range. It will end humankind or it's
never gonna get going with AGI, that'll never happen, and
so at the risk of making you angry at me,
all of you. One of the reasons I've brought this
story to you is precisely what Jack just said. They
get to you. Remember our white collar job discussion of
(11:04):
roughly two and a half minutes ago. Here's the question,
will AI adoptions significantly reduce or expand demand for white
collar jobs? Reduce five? No change six expand three? No consensus,
nothing even approaching a consensus, leaning slightly toward reduce. And
(11:25):
they're guessing on their answers. Yeah, I mean everybody you
say guess when you're an economist, but I mean really guessing.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. How should people repair I'm not repair, prepair?
How should people prepare own stock in an AI company? Kidding,
says the Michigan guy. Canned goods weapons? Yeah, yeah, I
(11:47):
read absolutely no consensus on that. Either choose a field
you have genuine passion for and get ready for change.
So SpaceX is about to go IPO, and so is
Chat and didn't Entropy announce it too, so open AIA.
I was reading some of the stuff that Elon's planning
to do with SpaceX, and I thought, God, I got
(12:09):
to invest in that. You know, I know lots and
lots and lots of people are thinking that. But man
his his plan to like very very soon put these
AI data centers in space that will be multiples more
powerful than anything on earth. For all kinds of reasons.
We can explain it. It just well, it's it is some
(12:30):
forward thinking man boy, and I wish I'd signed on
a SpaceX in the early days and not this dead
end job. Everybody who works there is going to become
super rich, and it's always been around for what a
dozen years. I saw the picture the other day of
him and like the ten people that started it in
twenty twelve, that's how old that company is. Ten people
in him standing in the hallway officially starting SpaceX today.
(12:53):
We got to build some rockets and it might make
him a trillionaire by next year. Talking to Steve Heilton
at the bottom of this hour, we got a lot
of other stuff coming up. To stay here. California election's
got a lot of national attention. I suppose that will
(13:14):
be true leading up to UH electing a new governor,
whether it's Steve Hilton or Hoavier. But Sarah, but we
have Steve Hilton on in about ten minutes or so.
To stay here and there can't be enough derision port
on California's ridiculous prone to fraud, and it's certainly the
perception of fraud voting systems. So I mentioned this briefly
(13:35):
with the following disclaimer blah blah blah. Consult your doctors
that a zoo. It may be wrong. Who cares. I've
got this physical problem right now. Whenever I undress, women
can't stay away from me. No, you can tell us
what it is or is Yeah, no, I will raid
(13:55):
you precisely what I told Claude. I have what I
would describe as a sore throat, but it's not a
typical sore throat. The pain is tenderness right above my
atoms apple. It's sensitive to pressure from the outside. My
throat is not inflamed. I get this semi regularly, have
for at least fifteen years, any ideas fifteen years, oh
at least. And you've seen doctors about this. I have,
(14:15):
and they have said, Wow, that's weird. Here's some antibiotics.
And it probably comes up that you talk four hours
for a living and stuff like that. It could I
have mentioned that, but they look at my vocal cords
and say, A little inflamed but not manchious biotic anyway,
get out of here. Hit the breaks. They got a
guy with a wet cough in the waiting room. We
got to get him out of there. He's sickening everybody.
(14:37):
But what you're describing, it answers is pretty distinctive and
describes what I described points toward a few more specific possibilities.
The most likely candidates are hyoid bone syndrome. The hyoid
is a small horseshoe shaped bone sitting right above the larynx.
It can develop procidis, or irritation of the surrounding tendons
and ligaments, causing exactly the kind of external point tenderness
(15:00):
you describe. It's often triggered by talking a lot, and
worth knowing because of my hobbies. When I'm not talking,
I'm singing, swallowing repeatedly, or next strain than thyro hyoid
muscle ligament strain, And that's almost certainly it. And it
says you really need to go to an E and
(15:23):
T that specializes in a laryngologist rather than general eant
who specializes in voice. They work with professional voice users routinely,
so after all these years and it look I'm not
a whiner. It hurts a lot, like it dominates my day.
(15:44):
It's hard to focus on every throat yeah wow, but
like externally, it's like I got punched in the throat,
which you're frequently threatening for various offenses for fifteen years. Yeah,
and I just after a while, I just thought, well,
nobody can do anything about it, so I'll just take
some tail and all and deal with it. It's really
(16:05):
bad this time. So anyway, again, you know, utilize some caution,
but if you can be very specific about your weird,
mysterious medical issue, these things are amazing and that the
claud is not under pressure to see twenty four patients,
you know after lunchtime, and you know, has the limitations
(16:26):
of human beings and the ability to do research. I
mean it did all the research of the medical world
has the capacity to do right in the space of
two and a half seconds.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It didn't examine me. I understand that. I'm not a fool.
But it nailed it. I'm sure it nailed it. Yeah,
that's interesting. Specialists are a thing too. I learned that
with my cancer thing back in the day. Specialists can
you know, you see your doctor and that's a tough job,
that general practitioner, because you just got the whole body
and everything and all these different ages, different problems, different
(16:58):
all this sort of stuff. Spousialists obviously specialize in one tiny,
little specific thing. But first time I get to a specialist,
he's like, you don't have that at all, and within
five minutes told me, oh, oh sorry, I'm not supposed to.
He probably was a life saving decision, that seeing that specialist.
But yeah, they are good. Not easy to see though.
(17:20):
That's the other thing that Claude doesn't have is a
whole insurance Who's paying for this? So we're not gonna,
you know, send you to the specialist because it costs
too much money. Thing going right, So I'm probably gonna
see somebody in nine months at the Mayo Clinic, which
is many miles away. But it's it's better than nothing.
Uh yeah, what was I gonna say? I had something else?
It probably doesn't matter, so oh oh, now I remember
(17:45):
what I was gonna say. You're absolutely right about general practitioners,
and I admire them so much. This our job, and
I appreciate the good ones. That's why I've always thought
veterinarians are amazing. Yeah, no, because they've got all that
in a bunch of different species that can't talk. He
can't ask it what brings in here today? You can't
send stuff the tail and give it the old how's
your uncle? You can't say to a horse, what brings
(18:06):
you in here today? Will my hoof is kind of soar?
Steve Hilton? Is he going to be the next governor?
The question is are Californians disgusted enough to try something different?
They tried it with Arnold, will they try it with Steve?
We're going to talk to him. Coming up next Armstrong
and Geeddy.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
It's the same system that can't count votes, that can't
build a train after ten years, and billions of dollars,
that can't clear the homeless after twenty four billions of
dollars spent, that can't get anything right.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
God, that message should resonate that Steve Hilton, who The
California Post is very happy to see in the final
two for governor of California. Their editorial board backing Steve Hilton,
saying congratulations to the dynamic Steve Hilton for advancing to
the general election in November. The Hilton Besarah matchup gives
California voters the contest. They deserve a choice between change
(19:01):
and the status quo. Now, Xavier Bsara is going to
mention that his highest qualification was being the Secretary of
the HHS under Biden, and he was so well respected.
Joe Biden said.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
This, Javier Bakaria, that's how highly he ranked in Joe
Biden's mind.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
The mainstream media usually introduces our guest as former Fox
News host. I would prefer to announce him as aid
to David Cameron, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, a businessman,
a restaurant tour and a proud immigrant to the United
States of America who happened to have a great show
on Fox News for a little while. Steve Hilton, Steve,
how are you feeling great?
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Good to be with you? Thank you.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
I like that intro.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
I'll take it. Thank you. Guys, you think he deal it?
Use it?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You think he can beat Javier Bakara, as Joe Biden called.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
Him, I think I can beat the guy that I mean.
We don't really have the time to list all the
insults that were leveled at him during his time there
by his colleagues in the Biden administration. Well, you know,
they thought that these are actual quotes. He's an quote idiot,
(20:12):
He's a quote joke. It's like, oh, and on, this
is the guy who was rejected by the Biden cabinet
for being too incompetent.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
I mean, what does that tell you.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
I mean, you've got to work very hard to be
considered useless by that crew, and yet here we are.
This is the guy that the Democrat machine has finally
glimbed onto to give us another four years of their
disastrous rule that has given us the highest cost of
living in the country, the highest unemployment rate, the highest
poverty rate. Oh great, more of the same, please, we
love it. Let's keep going in that direction. No, thank you.
(20:47):
It's really amazing that the way that they assumed that
now that we're in this, you know, we got clarity
about the race.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
It's me versus Versarah.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
There's just this complete assumption that, well, that means he's
the governor, because of course that that's what happens in California.
I don't think they understand who they're dealing with here
and what they're going to get from me and my campaign,
not just in holding them accountable for their utter failure
on every front. For the fact that Bassara himself is this,
(21:16):
you know, perfectly amiable. I got to be honest, perfectly amiable,
but completely unaccomplished, establishment non entity who's got literally nothing
to offer California except more of the same, as well
as a positive plan to change. They're really practical things
that are going to help people your first hundred grand
tax free, three dollar gaffs, cut your electric bills in half,
(21:38):
a home you can afford to buy, cut your cost,
help your business, fix our schools. Just common sense, practical things.
We're crying out for that in California. And the last
point I'll make, there's a majority for that in California.
Fifty seven percent of Californians think that the state's going
in the wrong direction and needs change. And that's why
I'm confident we can win in November.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Man calling him a perdu establishment non entity, that is
very accurate. Yeah, back when people spoke more fancily, they
would refer to him as a mediocrity. So Steve, enough softball.
So I'm going to ask you the hard question. And
we know California and California politics pretty well at this point.
If you go up into the beautiful foothills and mountain areas.
(22:19):
The more rural areas of California, you see Trump flags
of flying when you go into the deep blue cities.
That name is anathema, and the left is trying desperately
to turn you into some sort of leading maga character.
How are you going to deal with that challenge having
received the president's endorsement.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
I'm proud to have the president's endorsement, and I think
it's just really important to focus on what that means.
As the President himself has been saying that when I'm
elected governor, you're going to have someone who will work
with the President and his team to bring practical benefits
to California, whether that's lowering gas prices by opening up
energy production in our state, which he wants to do,
(23:02):
his team wants to do, I want to do, but
Gavin Newson is fighting that it's one of the reasons
we have the highest gas prices in the country because
we're importing oil from halfway around the world instead of
getting it from right here in California. Fraud in our
healthcare system in California rampant billions of dollars of fraud.
The Vice President and his broad task is trying to
root that out so we can cut the spending and
(23:23):
cut taxes.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
They don't want to do that.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
They're resisting that all of these examples where we can
have forest management. Is another example where the President and
his team Doug Bergham in Interior, and remember, I know it's.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Not just the president. I've got good relationships.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
With half the cabinet, Brook Rollin's and Agriculture, and let's
talk about forest management. They've got a very sensible plan
and an executive order to manage our forest better. And
what's gaven use of doing? Just blocking it? Every single
thing that the administration is doing to try and help
California in practical ways. You've got a governor right now
that's doing the opposite, blocking it and fighting it and
(24:01):
bragging about suing them, and they see that as the
measure of success, how many lawsuits they can file against
the Trump administration. I think people are going to really
get tired of design. I think we just got to
tell the truth about this stuff. And they because they
they've got a record that is literally indefensible, right, they
cannot defend the record, and they've got nothing new to say.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Besarah was on CNN.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
The other week and asked that simple question. Yeah, that
completely stumped Kamala Harris and when she was running for president,
is anything you'd have done differently? And Bessarah had the
same ridiculous adser oh, I can't think of anything. Oh,
it can't be that bad in California because people come
to Disneyland a lot.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
That's what he said.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Wow, he is a jokay. You mentioned that you mentioned
the democratic machine earlier, and it reminded me National Review
headline after the LA mayor result came in, the machine wins. Yeah,
is there anything to learn from you running statewide that
as bad as things are in LA, they weren't bad
enough for people to not think, you know what, we'll
(25:08):
either stick with the current mayor or go with a communist.
How do you break through the machine politics?
Speaker 8 (25:13):
We build our own and make it work better and
specifically ballot harvesting. That's how they do this. They get
their activist crew. This is what they've done for years.
We've been documenting this through my campaign where we published
these fraud reports and this is what you're seeing now.
This is when it comes into play. So we've been
showing for example, the very first fraud report we did
(25:34):
earlier this year, the cannabis tax Prop.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Sixty four.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
There was a tax on that they're supposed to fund
substance abuse prevention when we legalize cannabis in California. We
found three hundred and fifty million dollars of that site
ANDed off into Democrat political activity, funding hundreds of nonprofits
doing things like voter registration and ballot harvesting. Same from
the fund that was supposed to put in low income
(25:58):
apartments panels one hundred million dollars a year over ten years.
That's the one billion dollars we found that seventy two
million went to that nine hundred and twenty eight million.
Most of it went to this Democrat political activity. To
remember the fire aid money. That's where that money went
from the La fives to these activist groups. Another example
(26:19):
Churner the immigrant rights groups, the far left extremist group
there that has an office in Mexico that is actually
helping illegal immigrants come to the country. That is an
organization eighty five percent funded by taxpayers in California. It
was it was an integral part of the riots against
ICE a year ago.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
What do they do?
Speaker 8 (26:41):
They take that money and use it for ballot harvesting,
often paying in their own reporting, paying illegal immigrants to
do the work with our money. This is the machine
that's been built over years, and it comes into play
at election time.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
We've got to build our own. That's why this.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
Campaign I'm running is going to be very, very different
to anything you've seen before, because I'm very clear about
what needs to be done, and we are not going
to let them get away with it anymore because it's
not We desperately need change in this state and we're
not going to let this machine roll over us one
more time.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
This year, we're talking to the next governor of cal
Unicorna cal Unicornea god willing Steve Hilton. Hey, Steve, whether
it's California or anywhere else, what is the government's role
in the cost of housing? And since that it is
got awful in California, what could a governor's administration do
to help ease that brutal expense for people?
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Well, the simplest thing, Just as in so many areas
of the high cost of living the highest in the
country in California, the quickest way to get money into
people's pockets is to stop taking so much out. So
one of the most direct ways is to cap what
they call impact fees. These are developer impact fees. Basically,
there are attacks on housing.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
So when housing gets well, that developer pays these fees.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
There used to be just a few grand per unit.
Now it's up to twenty percent of the cost of
a new home is taxes paid by the house builder.
Of course, then they're passed on to the house buyer,
so we can put a cap on that. Secondly, the codes,
the building codes are insanely complicated in California. They make
it two or three times as expensive to build the
(28:24):
exact same building in California as in neighboring states. That's
under the direct control of the governor. We can simplify
those codes and reduce the costs. That's before you even
get into longer term changes like ending this insane density
argument where all they ever want to let you build
is you know, they put apartment buildings in suburban areas.
We can open up land for development and build outwards,
(28:47):
not upwards, so we can restore that dream of a
single family home that you can afford to buy. So
there are some longer term changes we can make, but
in a short term, just stop taxing housing so much.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Who do you think you need to win? Because like,
we're on a lot of stations in California, all the
big cities and a lot of smaller ones. But I'm
guessing most of our listeners would tend to vote for
you or whoever the Republican candidate was going to be. Anyway,
how do you reach those Democrats who are sick of
taxes or the dumb bullet trainer or drug addicts everywhere
(29:17):
or whatever it is. How are you going to reach
those people?
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Well, the first point actually is not to make the
assumption you've just made. That's the truth is that most
of the people who voted in the presidential year for
President Trump in California would not vote in a midterm year.
But if they did, if they did vote, then I
would I just want to give you the numbers.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
If you look at a.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
Projection of how many votes will be cast in the
general election this year in California, just based on the
average of the last two midterm years twenty eighteen and
twenty twenty two, you get a total of eleven point
seven million. If you just do the simple math, when
you need five point nine million votes, just over half
of that. In twenty twenty four, the number of people
(30:04):
who voted for President Trump in California six point one million.
So if every single person who voted for President Trump
votes for me, I'll be elected with hundreds.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Of thousands of votes to spare.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Starts with it starts with making sure that you don't
take it for granted and just turning out the Republican vote.
That's the starting point. If we got one hundred percent
of the presidential year turnout, then I would win without
even thinking about converting new people. Now, you're not going
to get one hundred per that's unrealistic.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
But the reason I.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Mentioned that is that that's the starting point for a campaign.
So everybody listening, if you vote, fantastic, thank you, that's great.
But now your job is to get ten other people
who you know, who you're your friends, who you know
are Republicans and say, don't.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Just sit this one out. Make sure you vote as well.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
If we all do it, then we can make it happen.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
That's that's that's that's a good point. And I would
caution everybody against the well, you know, it's a democratic state,
so why bother No, No, fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Fight, one hundred percent. That's the attitude.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
That's why I'm putting so much energy in this into
this campaign. I have already You're going to see even
more now because we've just got to We can do
this if we get up off our knees and fight
for the state that we love and say no enough
of this insanity. We can't let it go down any further.
To make or break for California. I really believe that
so many businesses in the last year have said to me, honestly,
(31:36):
if you don't you know, we're going to wait and
see what happens in November.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
If you make it, we're good. But if you don't
make it, we're out of here.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
And the exodus that we've seen of businesses is going
to turn into a stampede and the California is heading
to serious problems if we don't turn this around. But
the good news is we can. And actually all you
need is a common sense governor that gets government out
of the way and provide the basics.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
You know.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
It makes you know, roads that work, schools that teach
public safety, all these basic things instead of what they're
doing now, which is totally failing on the basic responsibilities
of government, instead endlessly bossing us around, micromanaging us, telling
us how to live our lives, where our businesses, raise
our kids. We'kind of car to drive, We're going to
house to live and have to cook our food.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Enough, we're done. Just leave us alone. Okay.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
We play the highest taxes in the country.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
We get the worst results.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
That is not a good deal, and we can change
it this year if we all show up and.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Vote, and the real battle has just begun. Steve Hilton
is ready for it, clearly. Steve, good to talk to you,
stay in touch.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Of course, great to be with you. Thank you. Yep.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I like his strategy. How can that message not resonate? Well,
it's because of either knee jerk I vote Democrat, which
is fine, and the entrenched interests who are getting those
hundreds of well it's hundreds of millions, it's billions of
dollars of government largess. They're going to vote to keep
(33:02):
the money flowing. It's machine politics that it's oldest and
most time honored. But we the people, You the people, everybody.
You've got to stand up for your interests and get
your friends to turn out. Ah boy, here we go.
We have several months. One of the lines is going
to be let's elect the first Hispanic governor since eighteen
(33:23):
seventy five. So make it identity politics around Bassarah.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
How about a brit hobbyer, my carea first former.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Britt ever elected governor of California. As far as I know, Uh,
people are betting on the Taylor Swift Travis Kelcey wedding.
There are all kinds of prop bets on that. If
you want to get involved. Yeah, Trump and company are
trying to regulate those those prediction markets could be tough, interesting,
and a lot of other stuff on the way. Stay here.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
I don't think they understand who they're dealing with here
and what they're going to get from me and my campaign,
not just in holding them accountable for their utter failure
on every front, for the fact that Besarah him self
is this, you know, perfectly amiable. I got to be honest,
perfectly amiable but completely unaccomplished establishment nonentity.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Hetty Knicks fans are blaming Trump for the loss and
the Brasstad for Trump because approval rating in San Antonio
is now one hundred percent, so worked.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Out for him there that game four tonight the NBA Finals.
I expect fights. I don't understand. I don't see how
there could not be a fight, maybe like after the
tip off, because there's been so much chirping about the
best player on the Spurs pushed the best player on
the Knicks to the ground. It was the most egregious
(34:46):
foul I've ever seen not called in an NBA game. Ever,
there's lots of punching people or strangling them for various
things that have happened over the decades in the NBA,
but never won like this that didn't get called at all.
And and all your ex NBA players are saying, you
can't let that go. You can't let the other team
try to hurt your star player and not fight back.
(35:09):
So I think there's gonna be fights tonight. Did you
see what former Knicks star Stefan Marbury said, Ah, he said,
thirteen years in the NBA, nine seasons in the Chinese
Basketball Association for Stephan Anyway, he said, Wemby's an international.
They played dirty overseas, just so you know, we're not
used to playing dirty in America the way Wemby just
(35:30):
now through Jason Jalen Brunson. Now, if I'm watching film,
I see Wemby throw somebody on my team the next game,
I'm gonna pop him in his ribcage so hard with
my elbow that he's going to fall and drop to
the ground. He's going to wish he never put his
hands on me. Next game. I guarantee you you better
make sure you put that knife in his neck. Well,
back in the day that would have been a bench
clearing brawl after Wemby threw him to the ground like that.
(35:52):
But it's a different league now and their fines are
so high and everything like that. To Jalen Brunson's credit though,
they lost, and he said, nah, I I am. I
don't blame the refs. We could have done this. We
should have done that, which was a really cool thing
for the Star to say. That is great. Yeah, that's
a manly thing to say. Having been thrown to the ground,
and then the seven foot five inch when beyond a
smiling at you like, how do you like that? That's
(36:15):
hard to overlook. I'm not in favorite of any knives
to anybody's neck, but yeah, oh, speaking of that, that troubling
story out of Britain also next hour, the Southern Poverty
Law Center gets to come up and see it is
so richly deserved for so long in Congress yesterday. Oh,
these highlights are great, don't miss them. Cool. Yeah, we
got a lot of good stuff on the way, and
(36:36):
the war in Iran is a hot topic today too.
If you miss the segment of the podcast Armstrong and
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well some business news.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yesterday was Tim Cook's final product announcement as Apple CEO. Yeah,
and his big reveal was an AI powered serie.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm not sure it's such a great idea. Take a
look at this, Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Siri, text Lisa.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
That's a great idea, Dan, Texting your girlfriend Lisa is
not just a smart way to get in touch with her,
it's also a brilliant way to reach her.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
If you want, I can draft a message for you now.
Oh no, I don't need the whole AI spiel.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Just please just.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Text her totally. Hear you, Dan, you want to send
a text to Lisa.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It sounds like you're dialed in on the problem and
you're ready to execute. I'm ready to dive in on
the Lisa text whenever you're ready.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yes, Yes, just dive in.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Sounds good. Say the word and I'll get to work.
Text text Lisa.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Text mexs Lisa is a Mexican restaurant in your area.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Would you like directions too?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh, my god, just do it.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Just send the text to Lisa, let me know, forget it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I don't need you undone.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Texting Lisa, I don't need you.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Siri.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yep, it worse. Oh what a great pun. Oh I
like the tag Siri. Yep, we made it worse. That
is true, though, that's the thing. I hate him out it.
Just quit with the fawning this and that. Just give
me the answer, or do what I ask you to do. Yeah,
it's the summer saying the new series underwhelming and apple
(01:48):
Stock dropped. I haven't tried it. I don't know. No,
I don't know either. Don't tend to trust those things.
Speaking of AI, at some point I had to pay
off my medical breakthrough thanks to a chatbot. Not that
you want to hear about my minor medical problems, but
it really is interesting. And yes, doctors who are listening,
I realize you can misdiagnose using chat pots, but I
(02:09):
thought this was super interesting. The Wall Street Journal got
together sixteen well known, respected economists to ask them how
AI will change the job market and how humans ought
to prepare and you know, the introduction? Do I even
need the introduction? It's one of the most pressing questions
facing the US economy today, Companies pouring unthinkable amounts some money,
(02:31):
and data centers ruling out AI tools, rethinking what workers
they need. Americans are anxious and excited about the developments.
Blah blah blah. So they asked a bunch of questions
to these folks, what AI. That's a poor start, the
first damn word? I mean, is there any point in continuing?
(02:56):
Let's go with will will AI lead to net job
losses or job growth across the economy? Job losses or
job growth? Eight response or obviously, no change was one
of the options. No change set eight of them out
of how many again sixteen sixteen? So half said no change.
That seems like a cop out answer. Well, I think
(03:18):
when you dig into the answers, it'll grow over here
and shrink over there, but not a significant change. But
I agree with you. I'm like, no change. What net
loss to net growth is five to two? So the
biggest thing that's ever happened happens and there's no change.
If I had that hard to believe, yeah, yeah, But
(03:39):
those who were willing to hazard a guess it was
five to two loss over again. What does history suggest
will happen to workers displaced by a I, and you
had a nice variety of well they'll learn similar jobs,
or there'll actually be more productive and blah blah blah,
they'll switch. But I liked this one from Rebecca Henderson
(04:00):
and who's a professor at Harvard Business School. I read
the history of suggesting that if this is as much
of a disruption as I expect, the workers end up
getting very, very angry and changing the politics. Of course,
I have no idea. I don't think we've ever really
seen anything moving with this scale and speed before. It's
going to be a wild ride. Yes, indeed, the scale end,
(04:22):
the speed is it's one hundred times faster than the
Industrial Revolution anyway, so nobody's really sure. It'll vary on
who you are. Will AI meaningfully bolster labor productivity? Fifteen
to zero? Yes, number sixteen apparently couldn't be bothered to
answer because reasonable question. But man, when the super rich
(04:48):
start talking about it, it will have more productivity. Okay, that's
not really The question I'm answering for my kids is
whether the country is going to be we're all ready
to the number one economic engine in the world, will
be more productive fantastic. How about will there be any
jobs for anybody? That's the question? And how will the
wealth be concentrated? Yeah, which is you know sometime we've
(05:08):
talked about at fair length, is AI already impacting the
labor market? And how about in five years? Really interesting
answer is too long to get into fully, But like
this fellow who's a University of Toronto School of Management professor,
we are currently in the between times. We see the
potential of AI, but our organizational systems haven't fully adjusted.
Over the next five to ten years, at least one
(05:30):
leading company in each market will likely figure out how
to transition to a system solution that is much more productive.
For example, instead of an insurer simply paying out after
an accident to the extent that they do pastards, they
may shift their value proposition from repair and replace to
predict and prevent. The labor impact will shift from doing
things faster to doing different things, requiring a significant reorganization
(05:53):
of human roles. I think that's a good and a
smart answer. A significant reorganization of human roles. Yyp yipes
is right and in the blank of an eye. Yeah,
Jason Furman, who you may know, he was on the
White House Council of Economic Advisors, I think in the
Obama years says we're currently seeing little or no impact
of AI on the labor market. You can't say no impact.
(06:15):
That's not true. But so far it's not much. Let's
get to these These guys are all smarter and women.
I assume there's women economists. They're all smarter than me.
But to say no impact so far, so YadA, YadA, YadA.
Come on, it is absolutely worth every time you quote
(06:37):
a professor of any sort. It's worth mentioning the Ivory
Tower filter. How they think they perceive the real world
based on their studies and their surveys and their mathematicians skills.
But they don't live with us. I was going to
say at the beginning, but I want to take the
fun out of this is economists are often wrong. And
(06:59):
this is the most uh you have to guess sort
of story I can ever remember in talking about the economy.
The economy. This isn't oil or wheat or something where
we have decades of an idea of this or that,
we have no idea when or what none. So I
(07:20):
mean they are really really guessing and then for some
for purpose that we haven't seen much changer. Okay, well,
you know, maybe that's true, but so so so what
did you see any of those graduation speeches where anybody
mentioned AI and everyone boo. Yeah, so it's had some
effect on people, and not only as we've discussed. Are
we going to have to deal with the dizzying pace
(07:42):
of it? But nobody knows what it is? Yeah, exactly,
we don't. You mentioned developments and agriculture or the use
of internal combustion engines or stuff like that. You could
extrapolate their adoption across an industry pretty easily. This is
you don't even know what Frankenstein's monster looks like. Anyway,
I like this though. What kind of workers are most well,
I liked it and I hated it? What kind of
(08:03):
workers are most likely to benefit from or be hurt
by the spread of AI? And this one guy from
the University of Michigan says, I think of AI as
doing cognitive work. So this is a revolution coming squarely
at white collar workers. I now know what blue collar
workers felt like in the nineteen seventies. Wow, And several
(08:23):
of them hit things you've heard before. Routine information processing
rules like adjusting insurance claims, translating documents, writing standard ad
copy face genuine displacement risk. Let's see a couple more.
Will AI widen or narrow income inequality between highly educated
and less educated workers? Widen one? Seven to five? Really
(08:48):
no change? Were two but only seven to five? I
think I am on the widen side. Well, if it's
going to hit college graduates, white collar workers more and
they don't have jobs, why aren't why aren't their salaries
going to come back down closer to blue collar workers? Yeah,
(09:13):
because that's going to be the only kind of workers
there are except for the connected and involved in any
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(10:19):
I love AI discussions like this, but I do know
for a fact because I've read it, I've listened to
the podcast. The smartest people in the world on AI
are often one hundred and eighty degrees apart on this
will doom the world, end humanity versus it is never
actually even gonna happen, and everything in between. So that's
(10:43):
quite a wide range. It will end humankind or it's
never gonna get going with AGI, that'll never happen, and
so at the risk of making you angry at me,
all of you. One of the reasons I've brought this
story to you is precisely what Jack just said. They
get to you. Remember our white collar job discussion of
(11:04):
roughly two and a half minutes ago. Here's the question,
will AI adoptions significantly reduce or expand demand for white
collar jobs? Reduce five? No change six expand three? No consensus,
nothing even approaching a consensus, leaning slightly toward reduce. And
(11:25):
they're guessing on their answers. Yeah, I mean everybody you
say guess when you're an economist, but I mean really guessing.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. How should people repair I'm not repair, prepair?
How should people prepare own stock in an AI company? Kidding,
says the Michigan guy. Canned goods weapons? Yeah, yeah, I
(11:47):
read absolutely no consensus on that. Either choose a field
you have genuine passion for and get ready for change.
So SpaceX is about to go IPO, and so is
Chat and didn't Entropy announce it too, so open AIA.
I was reading some of the stuff that Elon's planning
to do with SpaceX, and I thought, God, I got
(12:09):
to invest in that. You know, I know lots and
lots and lots of people are thinking that. But man
his his plan to like very very soon put these
AI data centers in space that will be multiples more
powerful than anything on earth. For all kinds of reasons.
We can explain it. It just well, it's it is some
(12:30):
forward thinking man boy, and I wish I'd signed on
a SpaceX in the early days and not this dead
end job. Everybody who works there is going to become
super rich, and it's always been around for what a
dozen years. I saw the picture the other day of
him and like the ten people that started it in
twenty twelve, that's how old that company is. Ten people
in him standing in the hallway officially starting SpaceX today.
(12:53):
We got to build some rockets and it might make
him a trillionaire by next year. Talking to Steve Heilton
at the bottom of this hour, we got a lot
of other stuff coming up. To stay here. California election's
got a lot of national attention. I suppose that will
(13:14):
be true leading up to UH electing a new governor,
whether it's Steve Hilton or Hoavier. But Sarah, but we
have Steve Hilton on in about ten minutes or so.
To stay here and there can't be enough derision port
on California's ridiculous prone to fraud, and it's certainly the
perception of fraud voting systems. So I mentioned this briefly
(13:35):
with the following disclaimer blah blah blah. Consult your doctors
that a zoo. It may be wrong. Who cares. I've
got this physical problem right now. Whenever I undress, women
can't stay away from me. No, you can tell us
what it is or is Yeah, no, I will raid
(13:55):
you precisely what I told Claude. I have what I
would describe as a sore throat, but it's not a
typical sore throat. The pain is tenderness right above my
atoms apple. It's sensitive to pressure from the outside. My
throat is not inflamed. I get this semi regularly, have
for at least fifteen years, any ideas fifteen years, oh
at least. And you've seen doctors about this. I have,
(14:15):
and they have said, Wow, that's weird. Here's some antibiotics.
And it probably comes up that you talk four hours
for a living and stuff like that. It could I
have mentioned that, but they look at my vocal cords
and say, A little inflamed but not manchious biotic anyway,
get out of here. Hit the breaks. They got a
guy with a wet cough in the waiting room. We
got to get him out of there. He's sickening everybody.
(14:37):
But what you're describing, it answers is pretty distinctive and
describes what I described points toward a few more specific possibilities.
The most likely candidates are hyoid bone syndrome. The hyoid
is a small horseshoe shaped bone sitting right above the larynx.
It can develop procidis, or irritation of the surrounding tendons
and ligaments, causing exactly the kind of external point tenderness
(15:00):
you describe. It's often triggered by talking a lot, and
worth knowing because of my hobbies. When I'm not talking,
I'm singing, swallowing repeatedly, or next strain than thyro hyoid
muscle ligament strain, And that's almost certainly it. And it
says you really need to go to an E and
(15:23):
T that specializes in a laryngologist rather than general eant
who specializes in voice. They work with professional voice users routinely,
so after all these years and it look I'm not
a whiner. It hurts a lot, like it dominates my day.
(15:44):
It's hard to focus on every throat yeah wow, but
like externally, it's like I got punched in the throat,
which you're frequently threatening for various offenses for fifteen years. Yeah,
and I just after a while, I just thought, well,
nobody can do anything about it, so I'll just take
some tail and all and deal with it. It's really
(16:05):
bad this time. So anyway, again, you know, utilize some caution,
but if you can be very specific about your weird,
mysterious medical issue, these things are amazing and that the
claud is not under pressure to see twenty four patients,
you know after lunchtime, and you know, has the limitations
(16:26):
of human beings and the ability to do research. I
mean it did all the research of the medical world
has the capacity to do right in the space of
two and a half seconds.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It didn't examine me. I understand that. I'm not a fool.
But it nailed it. I'm sure it nailed it. Yeah,
that's interesting. Specialists are a thing too. I learned that
with my cancer thing back in the day. Specialists can
you know, you see your doctor and that's a tough job,
that general practitioner, because you just got the whole body
and everything and all these different ages, different problems, different
(16:58):
all this sort of stuff. Spousialists obviously specialize in one tiny,
little specific thing. But first time I get to a specialist,
he's like, you don't have that at all, and within
five minutes told me, oh, oh sorry, I'm not supposed to.
He probably was a life saving decision, that seeing that specialist.
But yeah, they are good. Not easy to see though.
(17:20):
That's the other thing that Claude doesn't have is a
whole insurance Who's paying for this? So we're not gonna,
you know, send you to the specialist because it costs
too much money. Thing going right, So I'm probably gonna
see somebody in nine months at the Mayo Clinic, which
is many miles away. But it's it's better than nothing.
Uh yeah, what was I gonna say? I had something else?
It probably doesn't matter, so oh oh, now I remember
(17:45):
what I was gonna say. You're absolutely right about general practitioners,
and I admire them so much. This our job, and
I appreciate the good ones. That's why I've always thought
veterinarians are amazing. Yeah, no, because they've got all that
in a bunch of different species that can't talk. He
can't ask it what brings in here today? You can't
send stuff the tail and give it the old how's
your uncle? You can't say to a horse, what brings
(18:06):
you in here today? Will my hoof is kind of soar?
Steve Hilton? Is he going to be the next governor?
The question is are Californians disgusted enough to try something different?
They tried it with Arnold, will they try it with Steve?
We're going to talk to him. Coming up next Armstrong
and Geeddy.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
It's the same system that can't count votes, that can't
build a train after ten years, and billions of dollars,
that can't clear the homeless after twenty four billions of
dollars spent, that can't get anything right.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
God, that message should resonate that Steve Hilton, who The
California Post is very happy to see in the final
two for governor of California. Their editorial board backing Steve Hilton,
saying congratulations to the dynamic Steve Hilton for advancing to
the general election in November. The Hilton Besarah matchup gives
California voters the contest. They deserve a choice between change
(19:01):
and the status quo. Now, Xavier Bsara is going to
mention that his highest qualification was being the Secretary of
the HHS under Biden, and he was so well respected.
Joe Biden said.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
This, Javier Bakaria, that's how highly he ranked in Joe
Biden's mind.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
The mainstream media usually introduces our guest as former Fox
News host. I would prefer to announce him as aid
to David Cameron, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, a businessman,
a restaurant tour and a proud immigrant to the United
States of America who happened to have a great show
on Fox News for a little while. Steve Hilton, Steve,
how are you feeling great?
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Good to be with you? Thank you.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
I like that intro.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
I'll take it. Thank you. Guys, you think he deal it?
Use it?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You think he can beat Javier Bakara, as Joe Biden called.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
Him, I think I can beat the guy that I mean.
We don't really have the time to list all the
insults that were leveled at him during his time there
by his colleagues in the Biden administration. Well, you know,
they thought that these are actual quotes. He's an quote idiot,
(20:12):
He's a quote joke. It's like, oh, and on, this
is the guy who was rejected by the Biden cabinet
for being too incompetent.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
I mean, what does that tell you.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
I mean, you've got to work very hard to be
considered useless by that crew, and yet here we are.
This is the guy that the Democrat machine has finally
glimbed onto to give us another four years of their
disastrous rule that has given us the highest cost of
living in the country, the highest unemployment rate, the highest
poverty rate. Oh great, more of the same, please, we
love it. Let's keep going in that direction. No, thank you.
(20:47):
It's really amazing that the way that they assumed that
now that we're in this, you know, we got clarity
about the race.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
It's me versus Versarah.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
There's just this complete assumption that, well, that means he's
the governor, because of course that that's what happens in California.
I don't think they understand who they're dealing with here
and what they're going to get from me and my campaign,
not just in holding them accountable for their utter failure
on every front. For the fact that Bassara himself is this,
(21:16):
you know, perfectly amiable. I got to be honest, perfectly amiable,
but completely unaccomplished, establishment non entity who's got literally nothing
to offer California except more of the same, as well
as a positive plan to change. They're really practical things
that are going to help people your first hundred grand
tax free, three dollar gaffs, cut your electric bills in half,
(21:38):
a home you can afford to buy, cut your cost,
help your business, fix our schools. Just common sense, practical things.
We're crying out for that in California. And the last
point I'll make, there's a majority for that in California.
Fifty seven percent of Californians think that the state's going
in the wrong direction and needs change. And that's why
I'm confident we can win in November.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Man calling him a perdu establishment non entity, that is
very accurate. Yeah, back when people spoke more fancily, they
would refer to him as a mediocrity. So Steve, enough softball.
So I'm going to ask you the hard question. And
we know California and California politics pretty well at this point.
If you go up into the beautiful foothills and mountain areas.
(22:19):
The more rural areas of California, you see Trump flags
of flying when you go into the deep blue cities.
That name is anathema, and the left is trying desperately
to turn you into some sort of leading maga character.
How are you going to deal with that challenge having
received the president's endorsement.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
I'm proud to have the president's endorsement, and I think
it's just really important to focus on what that means.
As the President himself has been saying that when I'm
elected governor, you're going to have someone who will work
with the President and his team to bring practical benefits
to California, whether that's lowering gas prices by opening up
energy production in our state, which he wants to do,
(23:02):
his team wants to do, I want to do, but
Gavin Newson is fighting that it's one of the reasons
we have the highest gas prices in the country because
we're importing oil from halfway around the world instead of
getting it from right here in California. Fraud in our
healthcare system in California rampant billions of dollars of fraud.
The Vice President and his broad task is trying to
root that out so we can cut the spending and
(23:23):
cut taxes.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
They don't want to do that.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
They're resisting that all of these examples where we can
have forest management. Is another example where the President and
his team Doug Bergham in Interior, and remember, I know it's.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Not just the president. I've got good relationships.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
With half the cabinet, Brook Rollin's and Agriculture, and let's
talk about forest management. They've got a very sensible plan
and an executive order to manage our forest better. And
what's gaven use of doing? Just blocking it? Every single
thing that the administration is doing to try and help
California in practical ways. You've got a governor right now
that's doing the opposite, blocking it and fighting it and
(24:01):
bragging about suing them, and they see that as the
measure of success, how many lawsuits they can file against
the Trump administration. I think people are going to really
get tired of design. I think we just got to
tell the truth about this stuff. And they because they
they've got a record that is literally indefensible, right, they
cannot defend the record, and they've got nothing new to say.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Besarah was on CNN.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
The other week and asked that simple question. Yeah, that
completely stumped Kamala Harris and when she was running for president,
is anything you'd have done differently? And Bessarah had the
same ridiculous adser oh, I can't think of anything. Oh,
it can't be that bad in California because people come
to Disneyland a lot.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
That's what he said.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Wow, he is a jokay. You mentioned that you mentioned
the democratic machine earlier, and it reminded me National Review
headline after the LA mayor result came in, the machine wins. Yeah,
is there anything to learn from you running statewide that
as bad as things are in LA, they weren't bad
enough for people to not think, you know what, we'll
(25:08):
either stick with the current mayor or go with a communist.
How do you break through the machine politics?
Speaker 8 (25:13):
We build our own and make it work better and
specifically ballot harvesting. That's how they do this. They get
their activist crew. This is what they've done for years.
We've been documenting this through my campaign where we published
these fraud reports and this is what you're seeing now.
This is when it comes into play. So we've been
showing for example, the very first fraud report we did
(25:34):
earlier this year, the cannabis tax Prop.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Sixty four.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
There was a tax on that they're supposed to fund
substance abuse prevention when we legalize cannabis in California. We
found three hundred and fifty million dollars of that site
ANDed off into Democrat political activity, funding hundreds of nonprofits
doing things like voter registration and ballot harvesting. Same from
the fund that was supposed to put in low income
(25:58):
apartments panels one hundred million dollars a year over ten years.
That's the one billion dollars we found that seventy two
million went to that nine hundred and twenty eight million.
Most of it went to this Democrat political activity. To
remember the fire aid money. That's where that money went
from the La fives to these activist groups. Another example
(26:19):
Churner the immigrant rights groups, the far left extremist group
there that has an office in Mexico that is actually
helping illegal immigrants come to the country. That is an
organization eighty five percent funded by taxpayers in California. It
was it was an integral part of the riots against
ICE a year ago.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
What do they do?
Speaker 8 (26:41):
They take that money and use it for ballot harvesting,
often paying in their own reporting, paying illegal immigrants to
do the work with our money. This is the machine
that's been built over years, and it comes into play
at election time.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
We've got to build our own. That's why this.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
Campaign I'm running is going to be very, very different
to anything you've seen before, because I'm very clear about
what needs to be done, and we are not going
to let them get away with it anymore because it's
not We desperately need change in this state and we're
not going to let this machine roll over us one
more time.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
This year, we're talking to the next governor of cal
Unicorna cal Unicornea god willing Steve Hilton. Hey, Steve, whether
it's California or anywhere else, what is the government's role
in the cost of housing? And since that it is
got awful in California, what could a governor's administration do
to help ease that brutal expense for people?
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Well, the simplest thing, Just as in so many areas
of the high cost of living the highest in the
country in California, the quickest way to get money into
people's pockets is to stop taking so much out. So
one of the most direct ways is to cap what
they call impact fees. These are developer impact fees. Basically,
there are attacks on housing.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
So when housing gets well, that developer pays these fees.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
There used to be just a few grand per unit.
Now it's up to twenty percent of the cost of
a new home is taxes paid by the house builder.
Of course, then they're passed on to the house buyer,
so we can put a cap on that. Secondly, the codes,
the building codes are insanely complicated in California. They make
it two or three times as expensive to build the
(28:24):
exact same building in California as in neighboring states. That's
under the direct control of the governor. We can simplify
those codes and reduce the costs. That's before you even
get into longer term changes like ending this insane density
argument where all they ever want to let you build
is you know, they put apartment buildings in suburban areas.
We can open up land for development and build outwards,
(28:47):
not upwards, so we can restore that dream of a
single family home that you can afford to buy. So
there are some longer term changes we can make, but
in a short term, just stop taxing housing so much.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Who do you think you need to win? Because like,
we're on a lot of stations in California, all the
big cities and a lot of smaller ones. But I'm
guessing most of our listeners would tend to vote for
you or whoever the Republican candidate was going to be. Anyway,
how do you reach those Democrats who are sick of
taxes or the dumb bullet trainer or drug addicts everywhere
(29:17):
or whatever it is. How are you going to reach
those people?
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Well, the first point actually is not to make the
assumption you've just made. That's the truth is that most
of the people who voted in the presidential year for
President Trump in California would not vote in a midterm year.
But if they did, if they did vote, then I
would I just want to give you the numbers.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
If you look at a.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
Projection of how many votes will be cast in the
general election this year in California, just based on the
average of the last two midterm years twenty eighteen and
twenty twenty two, you get a total of eleven point
seven million. If you just do the simple math, when
you need five point nine million votes, just over half
of that. In twenty twenty four, the number of people
(30:04):
who voted for President Trump in California six point one million.
So if every single person who voted for President Trump
votes for me, I'll be elected with hundreds.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Of thousands of votes to spare.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Starts with it starts with making sure that you don't
take it for granted and just turning out the Republican vote.
That's the starting point. If we got one hundred percent
of the presidential year turnout, then I would win without
even thinking about converting new people. Now, you're not going
to get one hundred per that's unrealistic.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
But the reason I.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Mentioned that is that that's the starting point for a campaign.
So everybody listening, if you vote, fantastic, thank you, that's great.
But now your job is to get ten other people
who you know, who you're your friends, who you know
are Republicans and say, don't.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Just sit this one out. Make sure you vote as well.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
If we all do it, then we can make it happen.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
That's that's that's that's a good point. And I would
caution everybody against the well, you know, it's a democratic state,
so why bother No, No, fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Fight, one hundred percent. That's the attitude.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
That's why I'm putting so much energy in this into
this campaign. I have already You're going to see even
more now because we've just got to We can do
this if we get up off our knees and fight
for the state that we love and say no enough
of this insanity. We can't let it go down any further.
To make or break for California. I really believe that
so many businesses in the last year have said to me, honestly,
(31:36):
if you don't you know, we're going to wait and
see what happens in November.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
If you make it, we're good. But if you don't
make it, we're out of here.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
And the exodus that we've seen of businesses is going
to turn into a stampede and the California is heading
to serious problems if we don't turn this around. But
the good news is we can. And actually all you
need is a common sense governor that gets government out
of the way and provide the basics.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
You know.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
It makes you know, roads that work, schools that teach
public safety, all these basic things instead of what they're
doing now, which is totally failing on the basic responsibilities
of government, instead endlessly bossing us around, micromanaging us, telling
us how to live our lives, where our businesses, raise
our kids. We'kind of car to drive, We're going to
house to live and have to cook our food.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Enough, we're done. Just leave us alone. Okay.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
We play the highest taxes in the country.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
We get the worst results.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
That is not a good deal, and we can change
it this year if we all show up and.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Vote, and the real battle has just begun. Steve Hilton
is ready for it, clearly. Steve, good to talk to you,
stay in touch.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Of course, great to be with you. Thank you. Yep.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I like his strategy. How can that message not resonate? Well,
it's because of either knee jerk I vote Democrat, which
is fine, and the entrenched interests who are getting those
hundreds of well it's hundreds of millions, it's billions of
dollars of government largess. They're going to vote to keep
(33:02):
the money flowing. It's machine politics that it's oldest and
most time honored. But we the people, You the people, everybody.
You've got to stand up for your interests and get
your friends to turn out. Ah boy, here we go.
We have several months. One of the lines is going
to be let's elect the first Hispanic governor since eighteen
(33:23):
seventy five. So make it identity politics around Bassarah.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
How about a brit hobbyer, my carea first former.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Britt ever elected governor of California. As far as I know, Uh,
people are betting on the Taylor Swift Travis Kelcey wedding.
There are all kinds of prop bets on that. If
you want to get involved. Yeah, Trump and company are
trying to regulate those those prediction markets could be tough, interesting,
and a lot of other stuff on the way. Stay here.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
I don't think they understand who they're dealing with here
and what they're going to get from me and my campaign,
not just in holding them accountable for their utter failure
on every front, for the fact that Besarah him self
is this, you know, perfectly amiable. I got to be honest,
perfectly amiable but completely unaccomplished establishment nonentity.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Hetty Knicks fans are blaming Trump for the loss and
the Brasstad for Trump because approval rating in San Antonio
is now one hundred percent, so worked.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Out for him there that game four tonight the NBA Finals.
I expect fights. I don't understand. I don't see how
there could not be a fight, maybe like after the
tip off, because there's been so much chirping about the
best player on the Spurs pushed the best player on
the Knicks to the ground. It was the most egregious
(34:46):
foul I've ever seen not called in an NBA game. Ever,
there's lots of punching people or strangling them for various
things that have happened over the decades in the NBA,
but never won like this that didn't get called at all.
And and all your ex NBA players are saying, you
can't let that go. You can't let the other team
try to hurt your star player and not fight back.
(35:09):
So I think there's gonna be fights tonight. Did you
see what former Knicks star Stefan Marbury said, Ah, he said,
thirteen years in the NBA, nine seasons in the Chinese
Basketball Association for Stephan Anyway, he said, Wemby's an international.
They played dirty overseas, just so you know, we're not
used to playing dirty in America the way Wemby just
(35:30):
now through Jason Jalen Brunson. Now, if I'm watching film,
I see Wemby throw somebody on my team the next game,
I'm gonna pop him in his ribcage so hard with
my elbow that he's going to fall and drop to
the ground. He's going to wish he never put his
hands on me. Next game. I guarantee you you better
make sure you put that knife in his neck. Well,
back in the day that would have been a bench
clearing brawl after Wemby threw him to the ground like that.
(35:52):
But it's a different league now and their fines are
so high and everything like that. To Jalen Brunson's credit though,
they lost, and he said, nah, I I am. I
don't blame the refs. We could have done this. We
should have done that, which was a really cool thing
for the Star to say. That is great. Yeah, that's
a manly thing to say. Having been thrown to the ground,
and then the seven foot five inch when beyond a
smiling at you like, how do you like that? That's
(36:15):
hard to overlook. I'm not in favorite of any knives
to anybody's neck, but yeah, oh, speaking of that, that troubling
story out of Britain also next hour, the Southern Poverty
Law Center gets to come up and see it is
so richly deserved for so long in Congress yesterday. Oh,
these highlights are great, don't miss them. Cool. Yeah, we
got a lot of good stuff on the way, and
(36:36):
the war in Iran is a hot topic today too.
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