November 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- The Epstein files released
- The Epstein files continued
- Trump talks Epstein & Clinton back in 2015
- Was it a lemon or an egg!?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jack Armstrong is Joe Ketty arm Strong and Jackie and
now he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
As many of us who are looking at our phones
know that the Senate has passed the bill under unanim.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Have a moment of silence, but I think we should
just have a moment television.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
So that was the victims of Jeffrey Epstein having candlelight
vigil there on the steps of the Capitol yesterday when
they got the news. I think that the Senate passed
it after the House had passed at fourner in twenty
eight to one to release the Epstein files, and the
Senate said good enough for us Senate to the president.
I mean, they didn't even take it up. And they're cheering,
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and they seem to be like hugging each other's tears
in their eyes, legitimately relieved, slash joyful about this. I
don't know what they think is about to happen exactly now.
The mainstream media crowd like MSNBC is endlessly They played
that clip last night there and that's what we all
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need to remember that this is about the victims it's
not about.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Politics or Donald Trump, or but it's about the victims.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay, you didn't feel that way for four freaking years
when Democrats controlled the House and could have passed this
exact same bill.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Or Donald Trump can release this at any time.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So could Joe Biden, but he didn't, and you didn't
care about it at all then, So the amount of
hypocrisy around this. Of course, Trump was against it passing
until Sunday night, and then he was for it passing,
and every Republican but one voted to Patsy yesterday. So
I don't even.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Know what's happening.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
The official talking point on the left is that, yes,
it was the Mummy who is at fault. Joe Biden
should have released That is their new talking point, even
though not a single one of them even so much
as suggested that maybe that would be a good idea.
It was all Biden that held it back. It is
such enormous hypocrisy. On the other hand, this Jonahs Sarah
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of the Free Press, the assistant managing editor whatever that means,
wrote a big piece about reading through tons and tons
of the just released like a week ago Epstein emails
and around him, and he writes this, why are some
of the magna crowds so eager to see the Epstein
files the Justice Department supposedly has because they want to know.
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They demand to know who among Epstein's friends was also
having sex with underage girls. They want their heads on
a platter. Can you blame them? I don't think the
question is not worth asking. I just suspect that the
answer is there or it would have been used already.
Since the alleged information that exists has been in both
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parties hands now for quite a very, quite a long time.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It's plenty of opportunity.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Unless it's mutually assured destruction. There are guilty perves on
both sides. That is a possible explanation of why it's languished.
Although Washington is the leakiest vessel that's ever sailed, so
I can't believe there haven't been, you know, damaging leagues.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Right, It's hard to imagine.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
It defies logic specifically around Trump, which I assume is
the animating force behind this whole thing for Democrats is
they think that there's something that's gonna bring down Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
You're gonna tell me only the dust storm that this
is creating is bad for the Trump administration. Even if
that's the only thing they accomplish, it's worth doing.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But you're gonna tell me there's some damaging piece of
information in all of this that the Biden administration and
Justice Department sat on while Trump was it's going to be,
you know, the next president. You could have stopped him
with any of this, and you just kept it a secret.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I mean, it just defies all logic.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Like every movement, though, you've got your activists and then
you've got your useful I don't want to use the
term idiots because it's unnecessarily insulting, but you have your
activists and those they manipulate, and the activists know they
have a pretty good idea that there's nothing on Trump.
But this is just in the Trump administration's way, and
you hamstring the other party every way you possibly can,
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and this is a good one. So I think a
lot of the pros in the MSNBC crowd that's what
they're doing. But Jonasara, who I mentioned, wrote read tons
and tons of these emails, and he's written a piece
for the Free Press and he says, six years after
Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for luring teenage girls to services
in satiable sexual needs. I didn't think there was anything
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about this sordid scandal that could shock me, But I
was wrong. Over the weekend, I read hundreds of the
emails to and from Jeffrey Epstein, release to the public,
and take a shower when i'd finished. I hope that
people who wrote them, who will get to in a minute,
never live them down. For starters, the vast majority of
the emails were written after twenty oh eight, which is
when Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting soliciting prostitution from an
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underage girl, a far lesser charge than he deserved, after
his lawyers browbeat the prosecutors, and he spent thirteen months
in prison, a term so lenient he was allowed home
over the weekends. All those friends of his who wrote emails,
the friends who now say they regret their association with
him after details of that case were out in the open,
they didn't seem to care at the time.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Including Larry Summers, obviously president of Harvard, who, years after
Epstein got caught sex and up underage girls, was emailing
him saying, Hey, I'm mentoring this economics professor. She's hot
and I want to have sex with Herty. What do
you think of this line? I mean, if you haven't
read those, it's amazing, right, So no, Sarah says, they
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didn't seem to care. That's not quite right. They did
care about Epstein. Whenever stories would crop up about Epstein's
sexual proclivities, as they did from time to time, he
and his elite friends sent emails back and forth bemoaning
the unfairness of it all. They strategized about how they
might deflect attention away for his penchant for young girls
and direct it instead on his philanthropy, as supposed insider
knowledge of President Donald Trump's business dealings. The girls they
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barely got a mention, and then he mentions Boris Nikolick,
a venture capitalist who is Bill Gates chief scientific advisor,
when a Vanity Fair story came out.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
When will this stop? This is crazy? He wrote?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
When Epstein complained that not one newspaper had the balls
to question the credibility of Virginia Jeffrey, who said she
thought she might die a sex slave at the hands
of Epstein, first blew the whistle on his crimes. Epstein's
friend Landon Thomas Junior, then a financial journalist at the
New York Times replied, quote, I might be interested in
that story.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Would Andrews people co operate?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Andrew, of course, is Andrew mount Betton Windsor, formerly known
as Prince Andrew, who j'ffree accused of having sex with
her during the time she was under Epstein's control. He
clearly did, according to these emails. We'll get to that
in a minute. Let's see Michael Wolfe, the author groused
another big prize for the Miami Herald after Julie K.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Brown when the Hillman Prize, which is a prestigious journalism.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Prize, for her expose of the sweetheart deal Epstein got
back in twenty eight and Brown's story ultimately led to
Epstein's arrest that April in twenty nineteen. Look at the
judges on this thing, continued Wolfe, who comes across in
the emails as perhaps Epstein's closest confidant the right thinking establishment.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
To a t.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Steve Bannon, who was c Seed on that email, chimed in, Yeah,
the fix is always in. What year was that twenty nineteen? Wow,
let's see Bannon. Then he talks about there are always
sex scandals, one sort or another, But the Epstein case
exists on a whole other level. He was rich and
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well connected, but to this day nobody actually knows where
as all his money came from.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Your anti Semitic crowd.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Say it was the Jews, the masade, something is ridiculous.
But he lacked a college degree but charged his wealthy
friends millions of dollars for tax advice, constantly surrounded by
young women, the younger the better, and it was all
about massages that ended with asexual climaxes. Mister Nasara writes,
did Epstein's elite friends get the same treatment?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Is that how he made his money?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
In a memoir that was published after she died earlier
this year, your free alleged that she was expected to
service Epstein's friends, including Prince Andrew, as well as him.
But that's the only name specifically named. But there's still
many unknowns about Epstein. That's one reason there's such a
voracious appetite for the story. Another reason, though, is that
it appears to be yet another example of how the
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rich live by a different set of rules, allowing them
to do the most heinous things and skate away.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He quotes f.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Scott Fitzgerald and the Great Gatsby careless people, the wealthy
and powerful who thought, who thoughtlessly damaged lives that were
meaningless to them.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
To me, I mean, the fact is Steve Bannon being
c seed email.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I mean there is a club out there of rich
and powerful that crosses political lines where the whole you know,
we're fighting the other side, so hard thing disappears.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Oh yeah, that's all a show for us.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And they just live a life of sex, connections, financial
comfort and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And how does this not make you cynical?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, there's a chumminess to these emails and intimacy even
that suggests just how close Epstein was to his elite buddies.
Epstein donated more than nine million dollars to Harvard, most
of it during Larry Summer's five year ten years Harvard's president,
which ended in six But Summer's emails to Epstein, which
came well after for his time as Harvard's president, weren't
about money. Epstein appears to have been someone to whom
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he could say anything without fear of rebuke. Then he
gets into the hitting on his men tee thing and
getting advice from Epstein about how you reacted well, annoyed,
shows caring, no whining, show strength. Last week, Summers issued
a statement saying that his association with Epstein was a
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major error of judgment. That's what they're all saying now.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't know if you looked into the emails, but
I mean it gets down to the nitty gritty of
like Larry Summers sending an email to Epstein saying I
asked her out for drinks today after the conference and
she said she was tired. Do you think that was
just a way to get out of it or do
you think she was actually tired?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Should I try it again? Am I pushing too hard?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
He's wanting to sex up this young economist who sees
him as an older mentor, and he's looking to Jeffrey
Epstein for advice on how to work the thing. Yeah,
you and he's married currently. Yeah, you should be embarrassed
by all that. And now he's stepped down from Open AI,
where he had some sort of role. He's left, like
every job he has, he ought to be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Here's Kathy Rumler now Goldman Sachs, top lawyer former White
House counsel for Barack Obama, has also said she regrets
her association with Epstein, but in their email exchanges they
sound like bosom buddies, constantly covetching about their dislike of
Donald Trump. When she describes him as stupid and gross,
Epstein responds, duh. She asks him for advice when she
has approached about a big job, he tells her about
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all the big shots he'll be dining with.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Goldman.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Sachs has defended Rumler, saying that her relationship with Epstein
was professional. Her email correspondents show how ludicrous this claim is.
Landon Thomas, who please recall, was a New York Times
journalist at the time, emails Epstein to warn him that
he just spoke to another journalist who is snooping around.
Thomas was fired by The Times in twenty nineteen because
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he's solicited a thirty thousand dollars contribution to charity from Epstein.
There are only a few emails between Jelene Maxwell and Epstein,
but one in particular is a doozy. Even after they
broke up as a couple, they remained extremely close. When
he attended high profile events.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
She was his date.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
When he needed young girls, she either found them herself
or commanded one of Epstein's young charges to find a
girl who could take care of him. In twenty fifteen,
Geoffrey the victims sued Maxwell for defamation after Maxwell accused
Jeffrey of lying. In a panic, Maxwell emailed Epstein. She
tells them she is being told to put out a
statement that will distance her from him.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
She adds, they need.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Me to say I was not aware of a massage
with Andrew in my house. That email took my breath away,
not because I didn't strongly suspect it to be true,
because here it was, at last, on a page, an
admission that what Jeoffrey had long contended that Prince Andrew
had long denied was true. He was getting massages from
Epstein's victims in Maxwell's home. These were the kind of
messages that Epstein's victims say often ended with sexual satisfaction
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on the part of the men being massaged. Then back
and forth with Wolfe about the sex stuff, who clearly
knew about it, On and on.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
There's plenty more we need to get to on this.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
We've got a clip of Trump a decade ago talking
about Epstein and Bill Clinton that to me means Trump
must not have had anything he was worried about read
the world of Epstein.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That's the way I take it.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Let me hit you with Joe Nisarah's last paragraph. Epstein's
correspondence could have tried to stop him, or reported him
to the authorities, or at least decided to have nothing
to do with him. Instead, many of them circled the
wagons protecting a horrific sexual offender. He was rich, well connected,
and lived a seemingly glamorous life. They preferred his friendship
to looking straight away at his crimes. It is shameful
and even all these years after the first Epstein revelations, shocking.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He is Gatsby. Wow, we got a lot more stay with.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Us before we get to something important. The Simpsons killed
off another long time character Someday night on the new
episode of The Simpsons, Alice Glick, the church organist who
shows up in a whole bunch of episodes. My son,
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who could be the world's leading expert on The Simpsons,
went through all the different episodes for me yesterday that
she appears in, she's quoted, or shows up or that's wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
He knows that for some reason.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So apparently Larry Summers, former president of Harvard Secretary of
the treasurer on all kinds of boards highly involved with
open AI. He stepped down because of these embarrassing emails
came out.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Man, not only are you trying.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
To sex up your the people you're mentoring as a
like super rich, powerful, well known college professor, You're trying
to sex up this girl that comes to you for
mentor advice and you get caught. You're getting your advice
from freaking Epstein.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I mean, it's unbelievable. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So apparently yesterday or the day before, because he's still
a teaching it college at Harvard, he apologized to his
Harvard class.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Some of you will as shame. I have a statement
be look at stretching my shame with respect to what
I did communication with mister Emstein, and I've scheduled I'm
going to step back hard time.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But but I had to start working to show my
teaching obligation.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
And so with infinitionally on, we're going to hope forward
and talking about the material.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
We're going to go forward and talk about the material
rather than the fact that I would sex up many
of you in the room. Right now, I'm looking at you,
I'm looking at Louis looking at. In fact, I if email,
if Epstein wasn't dead, I would email him today saying,
how do you think I should get her in bed?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, I'm told he took partial responsibility. No, what's that
the control room is talking to you. Oh, full responsibility.
He took full responsibility, So it's okay.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I do feel like the Larry Summers part of this
has a bit of the Streisand effect going on that
if he hadn't like made such a big giant public
show of his contrition, way.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Fewer people would have heard about it.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Maybe there's just a number of powerful people that are
involved in these Epstein emails and they haven't come out
and said.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh my god, I can't believe I did that. I'm sorry,
I'm resigning from all my play and things.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, but come on, he was way high on the
salacious scale. I mean, soliciting Epstein's advice on how to
hit on a mentee.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
As a married dude. That's a good headline. That is
not cool.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Wow, And and you're getting your advice from Epstein And
this is years after Epstein was convicted of being at
their buds.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, just didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So got a clip coming up it's Trump bringing of
Epstein to a reporter in twenty fifteen, long before I'd
even have heard his name. Maybe I don't know which
I think shows that he must not be worried about
his relationship with Epstein.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I think, see what you think.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And then the three big questions still swirling around this
whole thing that either will or will not be answered.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But they are the big questions.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But Trump from twenty to fifteen bringing up Clinton and Epstein,
stay tubed boy, Armstrong and Getty ready for the headline
of the day, hit me, I suggest you put on
a helmet and buckle your seat belt.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Headline of the day.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Jeffrey Epstein had a tiny penis shaped like a lemon,
says victim. This is from the New York Post today.
Apparently one of the victims. He probably saw in the news.
All the victims on the Capitol steps, kindlight vigil cheering.
When the vote went down four hundred and twenty eight
to one in the House and the Senate just said
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rubber stamped it to release the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
One of the victims did an interview with Substack.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
This is actually kind of interesting, wasn't there another trying
to remember what sexual per it came out.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Had a like practically deformed by Weinstein who Weinstein?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Well, and just recently there is something about the Golden
State Killer, who's a murdering rapist in the Sacramento area
in the Bay Area back in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Forget me if.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm wrong on that, but you're right, Weinstein, they said
that about him too. So sometimes these people are driven
by you know, they they had an unfortunate physical abnormality
and it makes them crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Uh yeah, yeah, they have overwhelming desires to sexually uh
you know, dominate someone.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
This woman, I mean, it doesn't sound like she's trying
to be reading this interview, doesn't sound like she's trying
to be you know, silacious for slacious steak sake. She's
just describing. No, he had like he was practically deformed.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
She says. So that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Talking about Jeffrey Epstein and the whole thing in the
files being released and Trump's going to sign in it
a lot of day and then the Justice Department has
thirty days to get the stuff out and holy cow,
how long will this story dominate Washington d C.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I thought this was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I watched Mark Halprin, who is one of the more
fair journalists in my mind that exist out there, and
his video cast yesterday afternoon, all after all this went down,
he has three questions that he says remain out there.
I'm with him on two of them. I'm not sure
about the third one. But first he played this so
back in twenty fifteen, this is before Donald Trump even
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announced he was going to run for president the first time,
when it was still like a long shot really that
he was ever going to get into politics.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
He spoke at the Seapack.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Convention and Mark Alprin was there as a journalist at
the time for Bloomberg and got Donald Trump to stop
by the tent after he spoke, and Donald Trump brought up, unprovoked,
Jeffrey Epstein. And Halprin's belief is that Trump was thinking
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about running, thought his likely opponent was going to be
Hillary Clinton, which turned out to be right, and that
he needed to damage the whole Clinton brand and there
and Bill Clinton's attachment to Epstein, and so he was
introducing the topic into the bloodstream of the media or
trying to way back then, which makes me think that
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you ain't got much to hide. I wouldn't think you'd
be like trying to bring up the whole Epstein thing
when nobody had heard about this, and you know, and
make it a big story if you if you were
involved in stuff that you wanted kept secret, doesn't that
mean just make sense on a logical standpoint. But anyway,
here here's that actual That would be.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
An insane gamble. You knew you were dirty. Yeah, this
is Trump talking to Halprin back in twenty fifteen. He
is the question of Jeffrey Epstein in your remarks event
and quay I think he's got a problem.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Don't think the problem will be I don't know, but
that island was really a cesspool. There's no question about it.
Just ask Prince Andrew. Well, he'll tell you about it.
The island was an absolute cesspool. So that he's been
there for many times. Well, I can't say fringe, but
I know friendly. You know them well, you play at
my clubs a lot. I have clubs, and everybody likes you.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You're saying there's a political problem for her if she
runs the president.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It could be a political problem.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Look, he could be a political problem. Right now, he's
teflon and right now, maybe not but he could end
up being a political one.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
He wanted to get out there that there's a problem
between Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, Epstein and his island.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Just ask Prince Andrew. So Trump was completely aware.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Of at least the Prince Andrew angle, and probably lots
of different angles of what was going on in Epstein world.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, I don't remember what was known in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I don't think any well, I I mean among normal people,
are among the elite, I mean among the people.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Anybody really was the Prince Andrew thing out in twenty
fifteen or was Trump kind of outing it?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, but you didn't really follow the story.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It certainly wasn't on anybody's radar as a regular topic
in the way that it has been over the last
however many years.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
But yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
He was trying to introduce the topic of Epstein to people,
the island, the perfect island, trying to alert the media
here's something to look into. You wouldn't do that if
you had something to hide, would you?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
That would be crazy, right?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
To me, that's just the logic behind that is okay.
So here are the three questions. Mark Alprin has that
haven't been answered, and you can determine whether or not
you think they're a big deal. One, what was the
relationship between Donald Trump and Epstein.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
When they were friendly? And then what caused the break?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That He's had different answers for that, kind of different
moving explanations for why they broke number of different times.
Why did he fly in Epstein's plane? Halprin said, I've
known Trump a long time. He didn't fly in other
people's planes. He's got his own plane. He gets everywhere
he wants to be on his own plane. It's unlike
him to fly in somebody else. Why was he flying
on Epstein's plane? What were they what was the how
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close were they? And then what was the break? Because
they've getten different answers over the years, so that's kind
of interesting. Again, I don't think there's gonna end up
being anything there with Trump that's gonna damage him seriously.
So question number two is more interesting, maybe fits in
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with question number one. Everybody's wondering. Halprin says, in DC,
what the hell is the deal with Gallaine Maxwell getting
moved to that super comfy Nobody can explain that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Sex offenders are never sent.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Nobody can explain that or come up with an example
of that happening in the past of somebody convicted of
what she's convicted of, just out of and and it
happened right after she does her eight hour interview with
the number one, number two, but really the number one
at the Justice Department.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Mm hmm. What is that? It's a pure quit proquil.
If it's not, i'mpty shocked.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I mean, it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,
and is paddling across a pond.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Okay, pro cool means something for something. What's the something?
And what's the something in this?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
You sit down for an interview and Mitch, you make
it infinitely clear that Donald Trump did nothing untoward when
he knew Jeffrey Epstein. At the time, Trump thought that
was enough. In return, we send you to the cush prison.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's almost got to be that.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's Occam's razor. So oh, if
it's different than that, I'll be interested to find out.
But come on, go back to the duck. The duck
has got Akham's razor in its beak. Please, it's right quacky.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
It is quacking. It is swimming. It is having baby
duck things. I mean, right, it's a duck.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
But so that kind of blows up the first one
on when you know he brought up he was introducing Epstein.
He mentioned it in the Seapack speech and then wanted
to talk to journalists about the Clintons and Epstein. Well,
you know how easily ruffled Trump's feathers are, speaking of
birds of a feather, how easily butt hurt he is.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
He was like, people are saying I was perven with
with the King of the pervs. I wasn't. It needs
to stop. I wanted to stop. Who can stop it? Well,
Delaine Maxwell, maybe all right, get her to say I
didn't do anything. Well, or I have to cut her
a deal. I don't care says Trump cut her a deal.
Just get her to say it didn't do anything. I
think it was as simple as.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
That which she did. She very specific said that Trump
was not involved in any of this, right, and then
she goes quite reasonably assumed would be plenty. And then
the third one unless it looked like a quid pro quo,
in which she said, well, yeah, I'll say anything.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
What do you want me to say? LBJ was there
getting handies. Okay, LBJ was there, fine, Now send me
to the tennis camp.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
God if he commutes her sentence or pardons her, Holy crap,
maybe that's the deal. Maybe they told her, look, you
got three and a half years. You're going to live
in this tennis camp for three and a half years.
He's gonna pardon me on the way out the door.
When he's an old man and no longer has any
political linything. People will screaming yet, but they'll forget about
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what are they going to do? And you'll be out.
So just hang on, Yeah, are you liking the food?
If you're not liking the food, I'll get a different.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Chef, right because she's gotten special privileges even at the
tennis camp. Right, Yeah, that's what was going on there. Obviously,
bro put the dump back right, quacky please?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Okay, here's the third one, which I'm surprised by from
as level headed a journalist.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Desire out is out there?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
To my mind, Mark Alprin says he's not convinced Epstein
killed himself.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
He's done it.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
He's spent a lot of time with the videos and
the explanations and why the guards weren't there and who
wasn't watching the videos and who was supposed to be
and how Epstein ended up in a cell alone and
blah blah blah blah. And he's not convinced that Epstein
killed himself.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Or there wasn't. At least they put him in a.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Situation where he could kill himself and get away with
it when they're not supposed to do that, etc.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Right. Oh, yeah, that worked absolutely. Where are you on that?
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Speaker 1 (28:49):
I've changed my mind, by the way, but I want
to hear your explosive comment.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
All right, Oh here, here's what I would say about
the whether he killed himself or not. Due to the
sloppiness and corruption at to Jail in New York, it
will never be provable that he didn't, and the idea
that well, they just made it easy enough for him
to go ahead and do it by leaving him unmonitoring,
perhaps having been paid.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Off in some way. Maybe.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, that's again that's going to be difficult to prove,
but impossible to disprove, and not just for the obvious
reason that it's impossible to prove a negative.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's just so sloppy and corrupt.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, I have been from the beginning one hundred percent,
he killed himself. My thinking all along was the guys
live in the greatest by by his standards, not mine.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Greatest life in the world.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Is rich and powerful, all the sex he wants, and
flies around his plane and got his own island, all
this sort of stuff, and what he's going to spend
the rest of his life in prison?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Who wants that?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And all the embarrassing stuff that's going to come out.
I always thought that makes sense, you kill yourself in
that situation.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But as has been.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Pointed out, and I don't know why he got convicted
of this sort of thing before, and he didn't kill himself,
and he spent thirteen months in prison, and then he
got out and went back to his super cool life.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So why wouldn't he have thought that he could have
done that again? Now more serious charges.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I don't have them in front of me, but more
serious charges and a repeat offender.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
He was doomed.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You don't think living the life he lived that he thought,
I'm still gonna beat this. I got connections, whether it's Donald,
whether it's the Clinton's. I got somebody's gonna pardon me.
At some point, maybe I have to do a couple
of years in prison.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, he thought that for a while. Then when he
realized it wasn't gonna happen, he thought, good night now.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
But I don't know. I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I think the guards turned it back. They dimmed the lights.
Hillary Clinton comes walking in with a bed sheet.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
We'll never know. We will never know. And that's why
Hillary Clinton laughed. Michael just did what are you your
place in? What are you doing? You looking at real estate?
Emailing your friends?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Clock clickclock, sensible heels walking down the hall up the prison,
having just choked out Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Epstein's thinking, why is somebody wearing heels on the cell block?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's weird Hillary.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I like the idea that Hillary choked him herself as
an old woman, the waddling old gal who couldn't even
get in and out of a van back.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
In twenty sixteen. She's doing a strong arm doing wet work.
As they say, you know this recent at least twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Sure, Okay, any thoughts on any of this, you can
text us four one, five, two nine to five KFTC.
So I mentioned the headline of the day from the
New York Post. Jeffrey Epstein had a tiny, extremely deformed penis,
shaped like a lemon, says victim.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
This is from a substack interview yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
One of the victims that was on the Capitol steps
yesterday that cheered when they vote went down to release
the files. I don't know if any of the files
include the shape of his junk.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
No, this is audio of deposition back in what do
we have a year on this? Fairly recently before his death? Well,
go ahead addressing this issue, Yeah, okay, would you.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Please give us your name, Jeffrey Epstein. Is it true, sir,
that you have what's been described as an egg shaped penis?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Form?
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Vague and definite and I'm going to give you the
first one in, mister Fuban that these types of questions
are not only argumented, but directly in the management embarrassed
mister Epstein. If you continue with this type of question,
I will join the deposition immediately.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
There are according to the police Department's probable cause affidavit,
one witness described your penis is oval shaped and claim
when it was towards the bottom but was thin and
small towards and called it egg shaped. Those are not
my words. I apologize, but as mister Jared, as mister
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Critten has stated that this is a I'm willing to continue.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well, is it a lemon or an egg?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I mean, don't got to nail going to send you
to the grocery store if you don't write the difference
between a lemon and an egg?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Can we got to nail this down?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, I'm not quite sure why it was bleeped in
that way, but yeah, I like the two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I get the I get the lawyer saying that's meant
to embarrass my client.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I don't understand the it's argumentative.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
What maybe they had been claiming a lemon before and
now they're saying egg?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
And so which is what's next? Ping pong ball? When's
his end?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
And I don't think at this point anybody disputes that
Jeffrey Epstein was purven on young women and underage girls
and the rest of it. So his schwanstick and its
shape is is just not material at this point, I
don't think.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well it probably do you think that that was meant
just meant to embarrass him? Was that the reason to
bring it up?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I think it was to substantiate the witness testimony. I've
seen it in several sexual abuse cases.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Oh yeah, including Bill Clinton.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I'm not sure why the guy running the deposition wouldn't
allow it unless that was Epstein's attorney.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
That wasn't that part of the whole Bill Clinton thing?
That PAULA Jones could identify his particularly shaped first.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
The first penace. Yes, indeed, Katie got nothing. No, oh
don't really, now why would you know?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
No, I'm through with this and I won't let the
good lady be uh be sullied by your your.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
You know I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcomes. The raccoons are showing early
signs of domestication.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Eggs and lemons are pretty similar. They're not totally dissimilar.
Your next pet.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
This, this is the way it intended to tease this story.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Your next pet could be a raccoon. Stay with us.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
They are cute, They get the little masks. Football's similar
to an eggar lemon, not in size. Rugby we're talking
would be closer.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Rugby ball would be closer to an aglar element. Well, again,
not totally dissimilar. I mean I think we're you're honor.
We're getting caught up over details here. You're being argued
perven on home and.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Other word for raccoons trash pandas trash pandas. That's how
Judy and I refer to them all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Well, if you want a cute little pet that in
the middle of the night will turn into a wild
animal and rip your kid's face off, this might be
for you.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Stay tuned. Wow, okay, good days. Yeah, we'll have that.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
And we got to get into that Democrat lady Epstein
will take a break from Epstein. But that Democrat lady
who was talking to Epstein during a hearing, right, did
you hear that story?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
What get an advice?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jack Armstrong is Joe Ketty arm Strong and Jackie and
now he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
As many of us who are looking at our phones
know that the Senate has passed the bill under unanim.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Have a moment of silence, but I think we should
just have a moment television.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
So that was the victims of Jeffrey Epstein having candlelight
vigil there on the steps of the Capitol yesterday when
they got the news. I think that the Senate passed
it after the House had passed at fourner in twenty
eight to one to release the Epstein files, and the
Senate said good enough for us Senate to the president.
I mean, they didn't even take it up. And they're cheering,
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and they seem to be like hugging each other's tears
in their eyes, legitimately relieved, slash joyful about this. I
don't know what they think is about to happen exactly now.
The mainstream media crowd like MSNBC is endlessly They played
that clip last night there and that's what we all
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need to remember that this is about the victims it's
not about.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Politics or Donald Trump, or but it's about the victims.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay, you didn't feel that way for four freaking years
when Democrats controlled the House and could have passed this
exact same bill.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Or Donald Trump can release this at any time.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So could Joe Biden, but he didn't, and you didn't
care about it at all then, So the amount of
hypocrisy around this. Of course, Trump was against it passing
until Sunday night, and then he was for it passing,
and every Republican but one voted to Patsy yesterday. So
I don't even.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Know what's happening.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
The official talking point on the left is that, yes,
it was the Mummy who is at fault. Joe Biden
should have released That is their new talking point, even
though not a single one of them even so much
as suggested that maybe that would be a good idea.
It was all Biden that held it back. It is
such enormous hypocrisy. On the other hand, this Jonahs Sarah
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of the Free Press, the assistant managing editor whatever that means,
wrote a big piece about reading through tons and tons
of the just released like a week ago Epstein emails
and around him, and he writes this, why are some
of the magna crowds so eager to see the Epstein
files the Justice Department supposedly has because they want to know.
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They demand to know who among Epstein's friends was also
having sex with underage girls. They want their heads on
a platter. Can you blame them? I don't think the
question is not worth asking. I just suspect that the
answer is there or it would have been used already.
Since the alleged information that exists has been in both
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parties hands now for quite a very, quite a long time.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It's plenty of opportunity.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Unless it's mutually assured destruction. There are guilty perves on
both sides. That is a possible explanation of why it's languished.
Although Washington is the leakiest vessel that's ever sailed, so
I can't believe there haven't been, you know, damaging leagues.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Right, It's hard to imagine.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
It defies logic specifically around Trump, which I assume is
the animating force behind this whole thing for Democrats is
they think that there's something that's gonna bring down Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
You're gonna tell me only the dust storm that this
is creating is bad for the Trump administration. Even if
that's the only thing they accomplish, it's worth doing.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But you're gonna tell me there's some damaging piece of
information in all of this that the Biden administration and
Justice Department sat on while Trump was it's going to be,
you know, the next president. You could have stopped him
with any of this, and you just kept it a secret.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I mean, it just defies all logic.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Like every movement, though, you've got your activists and then
you've got your useful I don't want to use the
term idiots because it's unnecessarily insulting, but you have your
activists and those they manipulate, and the activists know they
have a pretty good idea that there's nothing on Trump.
But this is just in the Trump administration's way, and
you hamstring the other party every way you possibly can,
(04:31):
and this is a good one. So I think a
lot of the pros in the MSNBC crowd that's what
they're doing. But Jonasara, who I mentioned, wrote read tons
and tons of these emails, and he's written a piece
for the Free Press and he says, six years after
Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for luring teenage girls to services
in satiable sexual needs. I didn't think there was anything
(04:51):
about this sordid scandal that could shock me, But I
was wrong. Over the weekend, I read hundreds of the
emails to and from Jeffrey Epstein, release to the public,
and take a shower when i'd finished. I hope that
people who wrote them, who will get to in a minute,
never live them down. For starters, the vast majority of
the emails were written after twenty oh eight, which is
when Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting soliciting prostitution from an
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underage girl, a far lesser charge than he deserved, after
his lawyers browbeat the prosecutors, and he spent thirteen months
in prison, a term so lenient he was allowed home
over the weekends. All those friends of his who wrote emails,
the friends who now say they regret their association with
him after details of that case were out in the open,
they didn't seem to care at the time.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Including Larry Summers, obviously president of Harvard, who, years after
Epstein got caught sex and up underage girls, was emailing
him saying, Hey, I'm mentoring this economics professor. She's hot
and I want to have sex with Herty. What do
you think of this line? I mean, if you haven't
read those, it's amazing, right, So no, Sarah says, they
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didn't seem to care. That's not quite right. They did
care about Epstein. Whenever stories would crop up about Epstein's
sexual proclivities, as they did from time to time, he
and his elite friends sent emails back and forth bemoaning
the unfairness of it all. They strategized about how they
might deflect attention away for his penchant for young girls
and direct it instead on his philanthropy, as supposed insider
knowledge of President Donald Trump's business dealings. The girls they
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barely got a mention, and then he mentions Boris Nikolick,
a venture capitalist who is Bill Gates chief scientific advisor,
when a Vanity Fair story came out.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
When will this stop? This is crazy? He wrote?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
When Epstein complained that not one newspaper had the balls
to question the credibility of Virginia Jeffrey, who said she
thought she might die a sex slave at the hands
of Epstein, first blew the whistle on his crimes. Epstein's
friend Landon Thomas Junior, then a financial journalist at the
New York Times replied, quote, I might be interested in
that story.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Would Andrews people co operate?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Andrew, of course, is Andrew mount Betton Windsor, formerly known
as Prince Andrew, who j'ffree accused of having sex with
her during the time she was under Epstein's control. He
clearly did, according to these emails. We'll get to that
in a minute. Let's see Michael Wolfe, the author groused
another big prize for the Miami Herald after Julie K.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Brown when the Hillman Prize, which is a prestigious journalism.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Prize, for her expose of the sweetheart deal Epstein got
back in twenty eight and Brown's story ultimately led to
Epstein's arrest that April in twenty nineteen. Look at the
judges on this thing, continued Wolfe, who comes across in
the emails as perhaps Epstein's closest confidant the right thinking establishment.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
To a t.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Steve Bannon, who was c Seed on that email, chimed in, Yeah,
the fix is always in. What year was that twenty nineteen? Wow,
let's see Bannon. Then he talks about there are always
sex scandals, one sort or another, But the Epstein case
exists on a whole other level. He was rich and
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well connected, but to this day nobody actually knows where
as all his money came from.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Your anti Semitic crowd.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Say it was the Jews, the masade, something is ridiculous.
But he lacked a college degree but charged his wealthy
friends millions of dollars for tax advice, constantly surrounded by
young women, the younger the better, and it was all
about massages that ended with asexual climaxes. Mister Nasara writes,
did Epstein's elite friends get the same treatment?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Is that how he made his money?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
In a memoir that was published after she died earlier
this year, your free alleged that she was expected to
service Epstein's friends, including Prince Andrew, as well as him.
But that's the only name specifically named. But there's still
many unknowns about Epstein. That's one reason there's such a
voracious appetite for the story. Another reason, though, is that
it appears to be yet another example of how the
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rich live by a different set of rules, allowing them
to do the most heinous things and skate away.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He quotes f.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Scott Fitzgerald and the Great Gatsby careless people, the wealthy
and powerful who thought, who thoughtlessly damaged lives that were
meaningless to them.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
To me, I mean, the fact is Steve Bannon being
c seed email.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I mean there is a club out there of rich
and powerful that crosses political lines where the whole you know,
we're fighting the other side, so hard thing disappears.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Oh yeah, that's all a show for us.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And they just live a life of sex, connections, financial
comfort and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And how does this not make you cynical?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, there's a chumminess to these emails and intimacy even
that suggests just how close Epstein was to his elite buddies.
Epstein donated more than nine million dollars to Harvard, most
of it during Larry Summer's five year ten years Harvard's president,
which ended in six But Summer's emails to Epstein, which
came well after for his time as Harvard's president, weren't
about money. Epstein appears to have been someone to whom
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he could say anything without fear of rebuke. Then he
gets into the hitting on his men tee thing and
getting advice from Epstein about how you reacted well, annoyed,
shows caring, no whining, show strength. Last week, Summers issued
a statement saying that his association with Epstein was a
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major error of judgment. That's what they're all saying now.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't know if you looked into the emails, but
I mean it gets down to the nitty gritty of
like Larry Summers sending an email to Epstein saying I
asked her out for drinks today after the conference and
she said she was tired. Do you think that was
just a way to get out of it or do
you think she was actually tired?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Should I try it again? Am I pushing too hard?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
He's wanting to sex up this young economist who sees
him as an older mentor, and he's looking to Jeffrey
Epstein for advice on how to work the thing. Yeah,
you and he's married currently. Yeah, you should be embarrassed
by all that. And now he's stepped down from Open AI,
where he had some sort of role. He's left, like
every job he has, he ought to be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Here's Kathy Rumler now Goldman Sachs, top lawyer former White
House counsel for Barack Obama, has also said she regrets
her association with Epstein, but in their email exchanges they
sound like bosom buddies, constantly covetching about their dislike of
Donald Trump. When she describes him as stupid and gross,
Epstein responds, duh. She asks him for advice when she
has approached about a big job, he tells her about
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all the big shots he'll be dining with.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Goldman.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Sachs has defended Rumler, saying that her relationship with Epstein
was professional. Her email correspondents show how ludicrous this claim is.
Landon Thomas, who please recall, was a New York Times
journalist at the time, emails Epstein to warn him that
he just spoke to another journalist who is snooping around.
Thomas was fired by The Times in twenty nineteen because
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he's solicited a thirty thousand dollars contribution to charity from Epstein.
There are only a few emails between Jelene Maxwell and Epstein,
but one in particular is a doozy. Even after they
broke up as a couple, they remained extremely close. When
he attended high profile events.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
She was his date.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
When he needed young girls, she either found them herself
or commanded one of Epstein's young charges to find a
girl who could take care of him. In twenty fifteen,
Geoffrey the victims sued Maxwell for defamation after Maxwell accused
Jeffrey of lying. In a panic, Maxwell emailed Epstein. She
tells them she is being told to put out a
statement that will distance her from him.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
She adds, they need.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Me to say I was not aware of a massage
with Andrew in my house. That email took my breath away,
not because I didn't strongly suspect it to be true,
because here it was, at last, on a page, an
admission that what Jeoffrey had long contended that Prince Andrew
had long denied was true. He was getting massages from
Epstein's victims in Maxwell's home. These were the kind of
messages that Epstein's victims say often ended with sexual satisfaction
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on the part of the men being massaged. Then back
and forth with Wolfe about the sex stuff, who clearly
knew about it, On and on.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
There's plenty more we need to get to on this.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
We've got a clip of Trump a decade ago talking
about Epstein and Bill Clinton that to me means Trump
must not have had anything he was worried about read
the world of Epstein.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That's the way I take it.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Let me hit you with Joe Nisarah's last paragraph. Epstein's
correspondence could have tried to stop him, or reported him
to the authorities, or at least decided to have nothing
to do with him. Instead, many of them circled the
wagons protecting a horrific sexual offender. He was rich, well connected,
and lived a seemingly glamorous life. They preferred his friendship
to looking straight away at his crimes. It is shameful
and even all these years after the first Epstein revelations, shocking.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He is Gatsby. Wow, we got a lot more stay with.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Us before we get to something important. The Simpsons killed
off another long time character Someday night on the new
episode of The Simpsons, Alice Glick, the church organist who
shows up in a whole bunch of episodes. My son,
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who could be the world's leading expert on The Simpsons,
went through all the different episodes for me yesterday that
she appears in, she's quoted, or shows up or that's wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
He knows that for some reason.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So apparently Larry Summers, former president of Harvard Secretary of
the treasurer on all kinds of boards highly involved with
open AI. He stepped down because of these embarrassing emails
came out.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Man, not only are you trying.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
To sex up your the people you're mentoring as a
like super rich, powerful, well known college professor, You're trying
to sex up this girl that comes to you for
mentor advice and you get caught. You're getting your advice
from freaking Epstein.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I mean, it's unbelievable. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So apparently yesterday or the day before, because he's still
a teaching it college at Harvard, he apologized to his
Harvard class.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Some of you will as shame. I have a statement
be look at stretching my shame with respect to what
I did communication with mister Emstein, and I've scheduled I'm
going to step back hard time.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But but I had to start working to show my
teaching obligation.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
And so with infinitionally on, we're going to hope forward
and talking about the material.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
We're going to go forward and talk about the material
rather than the fact that I would sex up many
of you in the room. Right now, I'm looking at you,
I'm looking at Louis looking at. In fact, I if email,
if Epstein wasn't dead, I would email him today saying,
how do you think I should get her in bed?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, I'm told he took partial responsibility. No, what's that
the control room is talking to you. Oh, full responsibility.
He took full responsibility, So it's okay.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I do feel like the Larry Summers part of this
has a bit of the Streisand effect going on that
if he hadn't like made such a big giant public
show of his contrition, way.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Fewer people would have heard about it.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Maybe there's just a number of powerful people that are
involved in these Epstein emails and they haven't come out
and said.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh my god, I can't believe I did that. I'm sorry,
I'm resigning from all my play and things.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, but come on, he was way high on the
salacious scale. I mean, soliciting Epstein's advice on how to
hit on a mentee.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
As a married dude. That's a good headline. That is
not cool.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Wow, And and you're getting your advice from Epstein And
this is years after Epstein was convicted of being at
their buds.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, just didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So got a clip coming up it's Trump bringing of
Epstein to a reporter in twenty fifteen, long before I'd
even have heard his name. Maybe I don't know which
I think shows that he must not be worried about
his relationship with Epstein.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I think, see what you think.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And then the three big questions still swirling around this
whole thing that either will or will not be answered.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But they are the big questions.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But Trump from twenty to fifteen bringing up Clinton and Epstein,
stay tubed boy, Armstrong and Getty ready for the headline
of the day, hit me, I suggest you put on
a helmet and buckle your seat belt.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Headline of the day.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Jeffrey Epstein had a tiny penis shaped like a lemon,
says victim. This is from the New York Post today.
Apparently one of the victims. He probably saw in the news.
All the victims on the Capitol steps, kindlight vigil cheering.
When the vote went down four hundred and twenty eight
to one in the House and the Senate just said
(17:50):
rubber stamped it to release the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
One of the victims did an interview with Substack.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
This is actually kind of interesting, wasn't there another trying
to remember what sexual per it came out.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Had a like practically deformed by Weinstein who Weinstein?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Well, and just recently there is something about the Golden
State Killer, who's a murdering rapist in the Sacramento area
in the Bay Area back in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Forget me if.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm wrong on that, but you're right, Weinstein, they said
that about him too. So sometimes these people are driven
by you know, they they had an unfortunate physical abnormality
and it makes them crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Uh yeah, yeah, they have overwhelming desires to sexually uh
you know, dominate someone.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
This woman, I mean, it doesn't sound like she's trying
to be reading this interview, doesn't sound like she's trying
to be you know, silacious for slacious steak sake. She's
just describing. No, he had like he was practically deformed.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
She says. So that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Talking about Jeffrey Epstein and the whole thing in the
files being released and Trump's going to sign in it
a lot of day and then the Justice Department has
thirty days to get the stuff out and holy cow,
how long will this story dominate Washington d C.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I thought this was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I watched Mark Halprin, who is one of the more
fair journalists in my mind that exist out there, and
his video cast yesterday afternoon, all after all this went down,
he has three questions that he says remain out there.
I'm with him on two of them. I'm not sure
about the third one. But first he played this so
back in twenty fifteen, this is before Donald Trump even
(19:37):
announced he was going to run for president the first time,
when it was still like a long shot really that
he was ever going to get into politics.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
He spoke at the Seapack.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Convention and Mark Alprin was there as a journalist at
the time for Bloomberg and got Donald Trump to stop
by the tent after he spoke, and Donald Trump brought up, unprovoked,
Jeffrey Epstein. And Halprin's belief is that Trump was thinking
(20:12):
about running, thought his likely opponent was going to be
Hillary Clinton, which turned out to be right, and that
he needed to damage the whole Clinton brand and there
and Bill Clinton's attachment to Epstein, and so he was
introducing the topic into the bloodstream of the media or
trying to way back then, which makes me think that
(20:33):
you ain't got much to hide. I wouldn't think you'd
be like trying to bring up the whole Epstein thing
when nobody had heard about this, and you know, and
make it a big story if you if you were
involved in stuff that you wanted kept secret, doesn't that
mean just make sense on a logical standpoint. But anyway,
here here's that actual That would be.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
An insane gamble. You knew you were dirty. Yeah, this
is Trump talking to Halprin back in twenty fifteen. He
is the question of Jeffrey Epstein in your remarks event
and quay I think he's got a problem.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Don't think the problem will be I don't know, but
that island was really a cesspool. There's no question about it.
Just ask Prince Andrew. Well, he'll tell you about it.
The island was an absolute cesspool. So that he's been
there for many times. Well, I can't say fringe, but
I know friendly. You know them well, you play at
my clubs a lot. I have clubs, and everybody likes you.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You're saying there's a political problem for her if she
runs the president.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It could be a political problem.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Look, he could be a political problem. Right now, he's
teflon and right now, maybe not but he could end
up being a political one.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
He wanted to get out there that there's a problem
between Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, Epstein and his island.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Just ask Prince Andrew. So Trump was completely aware.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Of at least the Prince Andrew angle, and probably lots
of different angles of what was going on in Epstein world.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, I don't remember what was known in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I don't think any well, I I mean among normal people,
are among the elite, I mean among the people.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Anybody really was the Prince Andrew thing out in twenty
fifteen or was Trump kind of outing it?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, but you didn't really follow the story.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It certainly wasn't on anybody's radar as a regular topic
in the way that it has been over the last
however many years.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
But yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
He was trying to introduce the topic of Epstein to people,
the island, the perfect island, trying to alert the media
here's something to look into. You wouldn't do that if
you had something to hide, would you?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
That would be crazy, right?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
To me, that's just the logic behind that is okay.
So here are the three questions. Mark Alprin has that
haven't been answered, and you can determine whether or not
you think they're a big deal. One, what was the
relationship between Donald Trump and Epstein.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
When they were friendly? And then what caused the break?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That He's had different answers for that, kind of different
moving explanations for why they broke number of different times.
Why did he fly in Epstein's plane? Halprin said, I've
known Trump a long time. He didn't fly in other
people's planes. He's got his own plane. He gets everywhere
he wants to be on his own plane. It's unlike
him to fly in somebody else. Why was he flying
on Epstein's plane? What were they what was the how
(23:26):
close were they? And then what was the break? Because
they've getten different answers over the years, so that's kind
of interesting. Again, I don't think there's gonna end up
being anything there with Trump that's gonna damage him seriously.
So question number two is more interesting, maybe fits in
(23:47):
with question number one. Everybody's wondering. Halprin says, in DC,
what the hell is the deal with Gallaine Maxwell getting
moved to that super comfy Nobody can explain that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Sex offenders are never sent.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Nobody can explain that or come up with an example
of that happening in the past of somebody convicted of
what she's convicted of, just out of and and it
happened right after she does her eight hour interview with
the number one, number two, but really the number one
at the Justice Department.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Mm hmm. What is that? It's a pure quit proquil.
If it's not, i'mpty shocked.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I mean, it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,
and is paddling across a pond.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Okay, pro cool means something for something. What's the something?
And what's the something in this?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
You sit down for an interview and Mitch, you make
it infinitely clear that Donald Trump did nothing untoward when
he knew Jeffrey Epstein. At the time, Trump thought that
was enough. In return, we send you to the cush prison.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's almost got to be that.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's Occam's razor. So oh, if
it's different than that, I'll be interested to find out.
But come on, go back to the duck. The duck
has got Akham's razor in its beak. Please, it's right quacky.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
It is quacking. It is swimming. It is having baby
duck things. I mean, right, it's a duck.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
But so that kind of blows up the first one
on when you know he brought up he was introducing Epstein.
He mentioned it in the Seapack speech and then wanted
to talk to journalists about the Clintons and Epstein. Well,
you know how easily ruffled Trump's feathers are, speaking of
birds of a feather, how easily butt hurt he is.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
He was like, people are saying I was perven with
with the King of the pervs. I wasn't. It needs
to stop. I wanted to stop. Who can stop it? Well,
Delaine Maxwell, maybe all right, get her to say I
didn't do anything. Well, or I have to cut her
a deal. I don't care says Trump cut her a deal.
Just get her to say it didn't do anything. I
think it was as simple as.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
That which she did. She very specific said that Trump
was not involved in any of this, right, and then
she goes quite reasonably assumed would be plenty. And then
the third one unless it looked like a quid pro quo,
in which she said, well, yeah, I'll say anything.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
What do you want me to say? LBJ was there
getting handies. Okay, LBJ was there, fine, Now send me
to the tennis camp.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
God if he commutes her sentence or pardons her, Holy crap,
maybe that's the deal. Maybe they told her, look, you
got three and a half years. You're going to live
in this tennis camp for three and a half years.
He's gonna pardon me on the way out the door.
When he's an old man and no longer has any
political linything. People will screaming yet, but they'll forget about
(26:46):
what are they going to do? And you'll be out.
So just hang on, Yeah, are you liking the food?
If you're not liking the food, I'll get a different.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Chef, right because she's gotten special privileges even at the
tennis camp. Right, Yeah, that's what was going on there. Obviously,
bro put the dump back right, quacky please?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Okay, here's the third one, which I'm surprised by from
as level headed a journalist.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Desire out is out there?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
To my mind, Mark Alprin says he's not convinced Epstein
killed himself.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
He's done it.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
He's spent a lot of time with the videos and
the explanations and why the guards weren't there and who
wasn't watching the videos and who was supposed to be
and how Epstein ended up in a cell alone and
blah blah blah blah. And he's not convinced that Epstein
killed himself.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Or there wasn't. At least they put him in a.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Situation where he could kill himself and get away with
it when they're not supposed to do that, etc.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Right. Oh, yeah, that worked absolutely. Where are you on that?
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Speaker 1 (28:49):
I've changed my mind, by the way, but I want
to hear your explosive comment.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
All right, Oh here, here's what I would say about
the whether he killed himself or not. Due to the
sloppiness and corruption at to Jail in New York, it
will never be provable that he didn't, and the idea
that well, they just made it easy enough for him
to go ahead and do it by leaving him unmonitoring,
perhaps having been paid.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Off in some way. Maybe.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, that's again that's going to be difficult to prove,
but impossible to disprove, and not just for the obvious
reason that it's impossible to prove a negative.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's just so sloppy and corrupt.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, I have been from the beginning one hundred percent,
he killed himself. My thinking all along was the guys
live in the greatest by by his standards, not mine.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Greatest life in the world.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Is rich and powerful, all the sex he wants, and
flies around his plane and got his own island, all
this sort of stuff, and what he's going to spend
the rest of his life in prison?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Who wants that?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And all the embarrassing stuff that's going to come out.
I always thought that makes sense, you kill yourself in
that situation.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But as has been.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Pointed out, and I don't know why he got convicted
of this sort of thing before, and he didn't kill himself,
and he spent thirteen months in prison, and then he
got out and went back to his super cool life.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So why wouldn't he have thought that he could have
done that again? Now more serious charges.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I don't have them in front of me, but more
serious charges and a repeat offender.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
He was doomed.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You don't think living the life he lived that he thought,
I'm still gonna beat this. I got connections, whether it's Donald,
whether it's the Clinton's. I got somebody's gonna pardon me.
At some point, maybe I have to do a couple
of years in prison.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, he thought that for a while. Then when he
realized it wasn't gonna happen, he thought, good night now.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
But I don't know. I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I think the guards turned it back. They dimmed the lights.
Hillary Clinton comes walking in with a bed sheet.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
We'll never know. We will never know. And that's why
Hillary Clinton laughed. Michael just did what are you your
place in? What are you doing? You looking at real estate?
Emailing your friends?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Clock clickclock, sensible heels walking down the hall up the prison,
having just choked out Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Epstein's thinking, why is somebody wearing heels on the cell block?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's weird Hillary.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I like the idea that Hillary choked him herself as
an old woman, the waddling old gal who couldn't even
get in and out of a van back.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
In twenty sixteen. She's doing a strong arm doing wet work.
As they say, you know this recent at least twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Sure, Okay, any thoughts on any of this, you can
text us four one, five, two nine to five KFTC.
So I mentioned the headline of the day from the
New York Post. Jeffrey Epstein had a tiny, extremely deformed penis,
shaped like a lemon, says victim.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
This is from a substack interview yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
One of the victims that was on the Capitol steps
yesterday that cheered when they vote went down to release
the files. I don't know if any of the files
include the shape of his junk.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
No, this is audio of deposition back in what do
we have a year on this? Fairly recently before his death? Well,
go ahead addressing this issue, Yeah, okay, would you.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Please give us your name, Jeffrey Epstein. Is it true, sir,
that you have what's been described as an egg shaped penis?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Form?
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Vague and definite and I'm going to give you the
first one in, mister Fuban that these types of questions
are not only argumented, but directly in the management embarrassed
mister Epstein. If you continue with this type of question,
I will join the deposition immediately.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
There are according to the police Department's probable cause affidavit,
one witness described your penis is oval shaped and claim
when it was towards the bottom but was thin and
small towards and called it egg shaped. Those are not
my words. I apologize, but as mister Jared, as mister
(33:21):
Critten has stated that this is a I'm willing to continue.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well, is it a lemon or an egg?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I mean, don't got to nail going to send you
to the grocery store if you don't write the difference
between a lemon and an egg?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Can we got to nail this down?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, I'm not quite sure why it was bleeped in
that way, but yeah, I like the two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I get the I get the lawyer saying that's meant
to embarrass my client.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I don't understand the it's argumentative.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
What maybe they had been claiming a lemon before and
now they're saying egg?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
And so which is what's next? Ping pong ball? When's
his end?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
And I don't think at this point anybody disputes that
Jeffrey Epstein was purven on young women and underage girls
and the rest of it. So his schwanstick and its
shape is is just not material at this point, I
don't think.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well it probably do you think that that was meant
just meant to embarrass him? Was that the reason to
bring it up?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I think it was to substantiate the witness testimony. I've
seen it in several sexual abuse cases.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Oh yeah, including Bill Clinton.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I'm not sure why the guy running the deposition wouldn't
allow it unless that was Epstein's attorney.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
That wasn't that part of the whole Bill Clinton thing?
That PAULA Jones could identify his particularly shaped first.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
The first penace. Yes, indeed, Katie got nothing. No, oh
don't really, now why would you know?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
No, I'm through with this and I won't let the
good lady be uh be sullied by your your.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
You know I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcomes. The raccoons are showing early
signs of domestication.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Eggs and lemons are pretty similar. They're not totally dissimilar.
Your next pet.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
This, this is the way it intended to tease this story.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Your next pet could be a raccoon. Stay with us.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
They are cute, They get the little masks. Football's similar
to an eggar lemon, not in size. Rugby we're talking
would be closer.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Rugby ball would be closer to an aglar element. Well, again,
not totally dissimilar. I mean I think we're you're honor.
We're getting caught up over details here. You're being argued
perven on home and.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Other word for raccoons trash pandas trash pandas. That's how
Judy and I refer to them all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Well, if you want a cute little pet that in
the middle of the night will turn into a wild
animal and rip your kid's face off, this might be
for you.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Stay tuned. Wow, okay, good days. Yeah, we'll have that.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
And we got to get into that Democrat lady Epstein
will take a break from Epstein. But that Democrat lady
who was talking to Epstein during a hearing, right, did
you hear that story?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
What get an advice?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
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