November 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- Trump attempted assassin Thomas Crooks' weird obsessions
- People are not pronouncing the T
- Newsom's new book, Gavin 2028 & space bank theft
- What the penny is worth
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, Armstrong and Getty, and he.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Armstrong and Getty, and finally, residents of western Ohio reported
seeing a rare black squirrel with a white tail and
white pause. That's right, some people in Ohio saw a cat.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay, So I'm looking at my bank of televisions like
I wanted to before five televisions, and we're fortunate that
we can do whatever we want. We can talk about
whatever we want, although obviously we have the goal of
talking about things you're interested in. That's kind of how
the business works. But everybody but Fox is leading the
(01:01):
hour with some version of the Epstein story, and there's
a lot of new stuff. There's a lot of new
stuff that I find somewhat interesting actually for the first
time maybe ever in this whole saga. But everybody and
Fox is going with the new revelations about the crazy
kid that tried to assassinate Trump and almost did the
crooks person. So Fox has decided not to lead with Epstein.
(01:23):
I guess because Trump's Name's attached to it. I don't
know AnyWho more on that later. So this Thomas Crooks person,
you remember, he climbed up on the roof there in Butler, Pennsylvania. Amazingly,
he was able to climb up on a roof with
a high powered rifle. People everywhere, people saw him, perfect
(01:43):
line of sight to the President of the United States
and squeeze off quite a few shots. And it's just
freaking luck that he didn't blow Donald Trump's head off
in front of all of us and change world history.
I mean, seriously, change world history. All of the Middle
East stuff would be completely different. Obviously, the economy, tariffs,
all that sort of stuff, completely different. Sure, one hundred examples, yeah,
(02:06):
a hundred examples, and then playing out in ways that
we'll never know AnyWho. Thomas Crooks. We now know more
about him. And the big question from Miranda Divine of
the New York Post is one of their lead reporters,
she broke the hundred laptop story. The big question is
why was this stuff kept from us earlier? Is there
a reason for that? Some of the stuff that is
(02:28):
out from Miranda Divines reporting Thomas Crooks had all kinds
of different accounts out there and platforms that he was
going on a lot of this reporting has been done
by people just like regular people out there figuring this
stuff out and why the ect mean if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
The official word in the wake of his arrest and identification,
well and death, was that he really had no online presence, mysterious.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
He was ghost, they called him. He had no online previence, presence,
and not really any political any of this or that.
It turns out actually he was a hardcore Trump supporter,
I mean, like really a big Trump supporter. We'll talk
more about that in a second. Some of these posts
and then flipped at some point. Nobody's exactly sure why
to a Trump hater, but sources use publicly available research
(03:20):
tools to link multiple email addresses to crooks and then
found usernames associated with those emails on all kinds of sites,
including YouTube, Snapchat, PayPal, discord, chess, dot com, Korra, deviant Art,
and others. So he had quite a presence on lots
of different sites, used in different names, and it didn't
(03:40):
sound like it took super geniuses to figure out was him.
Why the multi gazillion dollar FBI Secret Service investigation into
this after he almost killed the president didn't uncover this
stuff well, That's what the question is here, and I'm
sure a lot of people would answer yelling at their
uh listening device because the authorities didn't want to know
(04:02):
that or didn't want to tell you that.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Although having gotten to the end of this, I'm not
sure what narrative to take away other than this guy
was nuts.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But the FBI has not confirmed the details of Kirk's
possible social media accounts and did not respond to a request.
Does he have to remember the investigation would have happened
under the Biden administration FBI. Well, the Trump FBI is
not commenting on it, and it might just be because
they don't know what to say yet. But well, to
your point, though, is there anything satisfying the whole What
(04:34):
was his motive? Thing almost always turns out to be
they were a crazy, angry person, was their motive. But
we still should have known all this stuff. His early
online presence, when he would have been in high school
was almost exclusively plote pro Trump, while he also made
a number of violently anti Semitic comments and racist remarks
about Hispanic immigrants. I'll quote him now. I've always believed
(04:57):
being patriotic was lining up a bunch of socialists, Jews
like the ones that booed Trump and blasting their useless
brains out with an ar You don't think that that's
something that the we should have heard about the guy
if he's out there saying that in social media. A
YouTube account featuring Crooks's full name posted in the comments
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under a clip of Trump being booed during the twenty
nineteen World Series in Washington. That's where he made that post.
So he did obscure it by having his entire name
on the comment on YouTube, the most used platform in
the world, right right, nobody. That's quite a trail too
under Israel name. Every one of the Trump hating Democrats
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deserves to have their heads chopped off and put on
stakes for the world to see what happens when you
f with America, he said on one comment under an
MSNBC clip from July at twenty nineteen. I mean, this
is a guy spewing threats and violence. Shouldn't have been
on somebody's radar. I don't know how much I'm gonna
how I don't know how any violent threats you can
(06:01):
make on social media without in and up on some
sort of FBI watch list or secret service this or
that or whatever I don't actually know.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
And specifically political assassination under his real name, flagged by
users who mentioned law enforcement in their replies.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
He also described in detail how he would use an
assault rifle against a crowd of political opponents, frequently quoting
the line the only true political power comes from the
barrel of a gun. That's from Chairman mau and crooks
made violent threats against Democratic members of the Squad, Well,
you're thinking a Democrat led White House and a squad
(06:42):
friendly media. If somebody was out there making violent threats
against the squad, that would have bubbled up somehow.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, I guess the internet is just too vast. Nobody
with any connections noticed.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I guess. I hope a quick and painful death to
all the deplorable immigrants and anti Trump cong women who
don't deserve anything this country has given them, he wrote
in July of twenty nineteen, But in twenty twenty, in
the middle of the COVID pandemic, he appeared to make
a one hundred and eighty degree turn in his views
on Trump. I'm pretty sure people are just racist, and
(07:15):
Trump is one of them. There does not need to
be a deep state for that, he said on a
YouTube comment, Okay, there wasn't any reasonable defense for Trump,
he said. It's around this time that he started posting
violent artworks, According to sources, One piece titled how He
Lost his Eye from June to twenty twenty three and
shared on deviant Art, shows a figured clad in black
(07:38):
executing another figure in front of a blue and pink
backdrop matching the colors of the trans Pride flag. He
had his pronouns in some various things, ay them. I'm
told that doesn't really mean anything, though I know plenty
of people that I know for a fact aren't really
down with the trans thing, but have their pronouns on
(07:59):
headline stuff because they can't ask.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Well, he wouldn't be, but he wouldn't be listing in
his pronouns as they them.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Of course. You know, again the takeaway because.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
He flipped then and was just vicious to Trump supporters
called him sheep and cult and your two brainwashed to
realize how dumb you are.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
This is in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
So you know, he's just an angry, angry, disturbed young man.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
His personal YouTube and Google searches also reveal a pattern
of violence and an obsession with guns and famous assassinations,
which is often common with assassins. Between twenty nineteen and
twenty twenty, he made searches for Lee Harvey Oswald's killer
Jack Ruby, the Oklahoma bombing, the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando,
among other attacks. He also searched how to fire an
AR fifteen as fast as possible, as well as how
(08:46):
to make a fertilizer bomb in a moll of cocktail.
He repeatedly looked for information related to body armor, high
velocity AMMO, and riot control. He was probably thinking about
doing something. He wasn't just quite sure why yet. And
then I'm guessing he heard, Hey, the President's coming to town.
I know what I'll do, right exactly?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, So I think maybe the fundamental question here is
and I don't know the answer, but it's well, I'll
just ask the question, how did why did the authorities
claim that this guy was an online ghost and there's
nothing knowable about him when you know amateur sleuths.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Granted some time has passed.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I'm not sure why this is coming out now, frankly,
but when there is all sorts of information about this guy,
it might not lead you in a helpful direction per se.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Because I don't think it does.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Although he's a big fan of terrorism, sneaking bombs in
and shooting people and the rest of it. Looking at
another one of his quotes, how is it that that
was not found fairly quickly by our authorities?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's troubling. I naively have this view of if somebody
almost kills the former president about to be next president,
there is no rock unturned in terms of figuring this out.
Apparently there were lots of rocks that were unturned. We
got to get to this before we run out of time.
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(10:11):
And this has got no significance other than we learn
a new term. I'm sorry that sounded like you said
muscle mommies. Yes, I will, I will stay tuned.
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Speaker 2 (10:29):
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Speaker 4 (10:32):
They get you, then they steal your information, and instead
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your bank trying to figure out if you have any
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Speaker 2 (11:26):
Krook apparently had a muscle mommy fetish and repeatedly searched
for videos about female bodybuilders and muscular women. So like
older women who are really big and really muscular, and
then in some of the art where it's not real women,
they're like ten feet tall and giant, towering over him,
that sort of thing. This is also from The New
(11:47):
York Post's Miranda Divine. Krook's had two possible accounts on
deviant Art for people who identify as anthropomorphized animal characters
that'd be furries and are sexually attracted to them. And
then he's got one post repost of a towering muscular
female bodybuilder and a slight man in his underwear looking
(12:08):
up at her, multiple searches for muscular women and female bodybuilders.
That's known as muscle mommies, and he apparently had a
fanger obsession with that and the furries and furries. So
maybe God went back and forth between kind of tonight,
I'm into muscle mommies, tomorrow furry or maybe maybe like
a muscle mommy dressed up as a grizzly bear. I
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don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
He's like a two sport athlete in terms of perversion
or variation.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Have you seen the actual muscle mommy picture? I have
not set they post on there. It's a very large,
very large woman in a bikini, attractive but like the
size of an NFL football player. He was a slightly
built little fella too. Yeah. And then this picture she
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is flexing in her bikini over this slight man. That
could be him, I guess, And that's wonder what that
is and be like lifted up and bench pressed by
a muscular checker. I think he goes beyond that, probably,
and then used as her personal pleasurement device, as it were,
(13:17):
and then in completely different categories the whole furry thing.
I guess. I don't know. I'm I don't know, journey
overlapping that ven diagram between muscle mommies and furries. Why
are you asking me? I just assume you know these things.
Do you like that? Huh? Just this thing? I just
assume you know lots of these things. Wow, wow, sick,
(13:39):
oh crazy? If you know anything about it, maybe you do.
I mean, we are on it. We are on in
San Francisco text line four one five two nine five KFTC.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
More than thirty years after the murders of Nicole Brown
Simpson and Ron Goldman, attorneys for O. J. Simpson's estate
finally agreeing to accept a nearly the eight million dollar
claim from the Goldman family.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Wow. Damn fifty eight me. Of course OJ is dead.
I think Goldman going after his money all those years
was to make OJ miserable because he feels like OJ
got away with murdering his daughter.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But son, yeah, her son, sorry, yeah Goldman. Yeah, although
the Brown family was after him too. Yeah, that's interesting.
How much money is there in the estate. I don't
know coming up. Jonathan Martin, the dean of political writers
at Politico, says Gavvy boy is the clear front runner
for the presidency.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Let's say it out loud. We'll share that terrifying information.
That's you got his new book coming out soon. We
gotta tell you about that.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh good lord, I wouldn't use it to line my
parroent A young man in a hurry speaking of at
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(15:05):
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Speaker 2 (15:17):
So Katie's wearing an armstrong and getdy sweatshirt today, a hoodie,
one of my favorites. That's great, so comfortable. So we
were told by Hansen, you have a news headline for us.
Is this true? Do you know anything about that? No? Okay,
I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
If you're most story of the day, he says, I
do what I do? Is it better not be idiotic
because I'm not in the.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Mood because we do not like people just messing around
saying weird crap. We a salary? Erry Michael hed it?
What is our story? Multi? Okay?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
There are twenty six letters in the alphabet, but one
is just not getting in off love. Linguists say the
letter T is being dropped from words like kitten, mountain
and interview coast to coast, and no one know why,
but they have named it. It's called te glottalization, and
it's a speech error that's happening mostly in the under
twenty five age range.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's interesting. My son does that, and I have no idea.
So it's it's so annoying. It's it's a it's a well,
you know, it's like up talk originally was highly annoying,
but it's just so common now I don't even notice it.
It's like everybody does it. So yeah, the dropping the
tee thing, my son has done that since he was younger,
but I didn't realize maybe he picked that up from
(16:29):
other youth. You know, it's a Southern California thing. I think.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Originally, like so many annoying speaking trends, whether the Valley girl,
the up talk in general. Now this I happen to
notice it from a couple of bands out of the
LA area who like, there's a one line was weight in,
And I'm like, wait, why did you say weight in?
(16:54):
Instead of waiting?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Wait, I'm waiting for executive producer Mike Han and joins
his hands and yeah, this.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Has been a problem in our society for quite some time,
and it needs to come to an end.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And it's not just the twenty somethings.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
This has crept up into people in their late thirties
and early forties taking over our society. I've been bothered
by it for years. It needs to come to an
end immediately. My children are being effected.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I don't like it. Bring back the tea. You've noticed
it in your kids. I've noticed that my kids.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
One of our beloved colleagues is the first person that
started doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It was such a bother and I couldn't understand why
are you dropping your teas? Yeah, any names off the
air and that, what are you doing? What's wrong with you?
We have cats? And he says, oh, it's a kitten
in what I've never said anything about it? That is
so great ing. Oh goodness, lord hell, I want to
hit them. Wow. Okay, Well it's not just my son.
(17:54):
I thought, actually thought maybe he had like a speech
embediment or something with his tongue or something that kind
of sounds like it doesn't it, stop it stop it,
But it's just picked up a social trend. Oh be darn.
Thanks for bringing that to our attention. That is an
important story. You were right, good armstrong and getdy Okay,
to show how incredibly ignorant I am on this topic.
(18:15):
Like many, I thought cloud Flair was like a Sunflair.
It's a company. Yeah, oh okay, I thought you said
dot when you said cloud Flare, I thought it was
like one. You know, there's a Sunflair or something like that.
So there's a company that has a whole bunch of
distribution of podcasts, things going on around it, including us,
(18:36):
but like Twitter and all kinds of different things, and
they're having an outage today.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yes, yeah, it's a web security conglomerate.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Okay, but I know nothing about that, And it's fascinating
from the whole so many things tied together. If the
Chinese ever decide to hack us, what's gonna happen thang
that we'll all get to live through someday And won't
it be exciting?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Well, I think that whether it was one big outage,
it feels like it was probably a year ago or so.
That was a fairly insignificant company in the delivery chain
of web services, that sort of thing that updated its software,
that you tech folks that know what I'm talking about.
And well, right, it's just it's all so tied together.
(19:20):
It's not like you can, you know, go around a
leak in a water main by attaching a hose or
something like that. It's a little more difficult to get
around problems.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, if you listen to the show, you know I'm
a big reader. I love reading. I love keeping track
of what new books are coming out. I got a
list of books a thousand long books I want to read.
This probably won't make the list, but it's coming out
right after the first of the year. Gavin Newsome young
man in a hurry a Memoir of Discovery with him
on the cover as looking very young Kennedy Like, this
(19:57):
is not an accident. It's a black and white picture.
I mean, it seems clear to me to're trying to
give him Kennedy vibes. Yeah, black and white picture. He's
in just a shirt and tie walking down a city street,
like you know, he's probably mayor at the time, like
a guy, you know, I'm really working hard for the
people of San Francisco. Young Man in a hurry a
Memoir of Discovery. That title makes me want to vomit,
(20:23):
but probably not what they're going for. I was reading
Mark Calprin's column over the weekend, and he has gone
from kind of high issue Gavin Newssom but not that high,
to full on high on Gavin Newsom. Thinks Gavin Newsom
is a major, major force to be reckoned with in
terms of running for president. So I don't know what's
(20:45):
made people change their views on this, but that's where
it is.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Jonathan Martin is Politico's senior Political Commonists columnist. Wow, that's
a funny Freudian slip politics bureau chief. He's really the
head writer there and his pieces admit it. Gavin Newsom
is the twenty twenty eight front runner, of course his subhead.
For years, Democrats and pundits have rolled their eyes at
(21:10):
Gavin Newsom, but he's positioned better than anyone else for
the future of politics. The opening sentence, which is a
bit of a run on, Jonathan, is an absolute statement
of how big the divide is between politics and governance.
(21:31):
Politics being in for the purpose of this discussion, running
for off his gaining votes, raising money, governance being what
the hell are you going to do in office?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And then you get the whole. Then you got the whole.
Run you run in poetry and government prose thing. Yeah right, yeah,
So here's your run on sentence. No Democrat has had
a better two years than Gavin Newsom. And because all
we could start right there, that is purely about politics,
(22:04):
not governance. Governance wise nightmare.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Ask any cal Unicornian, including Democrats.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
The last two of all human we all fall short.
Sometimes when all the Walgreens had to close in all
the cities because there's so much crime and homeless people
and your toothpaste is locked up, energy bills skyrocketing, and
then the horrifying fires and people can't get any help
because of the red tape in California. Yeah, it's been
a great two years.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Test results coming out showing this kids know nothing, have
learned nothing. It's terrible bottomed out anyway, I'll read the
whole sentence. Now, no Democrat has had a better two
years than Gavin Newsom, and because of it, the California governor,
a national figure since he was a thirty six year
old boy mayor, has claimed a new title front runner.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
It's easy to find Newsome naysayers.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
In fact, there may not be a modern political figure
who was simultaneously so well positioned to be his party's
nominee and so doubted by the smart set since well,
Joe Biden in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Will how that turnout?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, he won barely, and then Jess became one of
the worst presidents in American history. But Jonathan will let
that go. But he says, let's not make the mistake
of ignoring what's in plain view and give the governor's
due by the old rules of Democratic nominations. Newsom fits
neatly in the tradition of Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama,
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younger outsider candidates who could credibly run fresh campaigns against
the Washington status quo while claiming enough insider credentials to
reassure party mandarins who care about such things.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
As we've talked about a lot over many years. Because
this is applied to Arnold for whatever reason, three thousand
miles away here in California from DC and New York,
they just have no idea what's going on out here.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
No, they invent narratives and they run with them, and
just everybody repeats it in East Coast media about the
West Coast all, you know, the entire West Coast.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's why I hope that the New York Post actually
ends up with a California bureau like they're talking about.
Maybe you could get some reporters in California that actually
know what's happening, because they reported stuff about Arnold all
the time that just wasn't true. Yeah, we thought it
was hilarious reading, you know what.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Honestly, I need to reassess my discussion of the out
of touchedness of the Eastern media.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I don't think they have a single effing.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Idea what's going on west of Ohio, because I was
about to include Nevada and Arizona in the West coast,
because you know, I know the politics of those states
fairly well, and the East coast media has no idea
what's going on. But then Illinois, even they just I've
never read any good analysis of Illinois politics out of
the East Coast media anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Newsom, this part is true and troubling.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Newsom is also the bet position Democrat according to the
new rules of politics, namely, whether you can, whether you
are or can become famous by breaking through on social media.
How many other potential candidates are plausible celebrities who can
transcend the political pop culture divide.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'll Abama and Trump if.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
You believe the phone in your hand will more than
any factor determine the next Democratic nominee. It's hard not
to grasp new some strength. As the kids say, he
gives main character energy.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
He laugh, I laughed, main character energy, all right. Actually
the kids would say main character or energy because they
don't say teas anymore. That's right, laziness. Yeah, yeah, Well,
it's so my youngest last night I said he's just
going to live off the government. It's oh. I was
(25:55):
talking about his grades and various things. I'll just what
are you gonna do when you're eighteen? And I've given
a very I mean, it could have been straight out
of a sitcom. I was given such a classic dad speech.
But his answer was I'll just live off the government.
Frankfully made me laugh. Moral arguments about that. He knows
(26:16):
how I feel about that, So he was trying to anyway.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
So the thing about Gaffy and this is not a
political liability in a especially a pre primary period, which
we're talking about right now. Good god, it's only twenty
twenty five and we're actually contemplating on even a little
bit the twenty twenty eight race. But on which side
of the party's liberal versus moderate divide will knew some
(26:42):
position himself.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Jonathan Martin asks, neither I wanted to be the mansion
to Mamdani party. I wanted to be inclusive.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
The government told the governor told him last week, well
good luck with that.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Mad mansion.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
That's that's that's clever because it's got two m's in it.
What would that look like, because I don't think the
mansion or mansion adjacent Democrats of today have any patients
at all with the Mumdani super woke crowd anymore because
they realize it's dragging him down. In fact, the Free
Press had a great piece by this young woman who
(27:21):
is a you know, San Francisco based fundraiser and mover
and shaker and the Democratic Party and left it and
it's an interesting essay about what happens to you personally
when you do that and online it's brutal, absolutely brutal.
But Gavin is nothing, But he is nothing if not calculating,
and he does not want to run off a single
(27:44):
you know, cohort of the Democratic vote at this point,
which is probably smart.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
So all right, he's officially.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
On the uh well, he's been on the radar screen
for a long time, but he has now been christened
anointed by several media heavyweights as the Democrat.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Right. Well, all depends on who runs against him, of course,
and then events make a very big deal. As John
McCain was the nominee for the Republicans when we thought
the main issue was going to be the war in
Iraq and Barack Obama was his opponent, and the main
(28:23):
issue ended up being the financial crisis and the collapse
and turning to a war veteran with strong opinions on
the war in Iraq. Nobody cared because it was all
about the economy. You just you never know, You never know, right.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
You want to hear my favorite headline of the day,
woman pleads guilty to lying about astronaut wife accessing bank
account from space station. That is definitely one of those headlines. Wait,
I'm sorry, I need to hear that one more time.
There's a lot happening here. Woman pleads guilty to lying
(28:58):
about astronaut wife accessing bank account from space stage.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay, I'd missed the first part. The woman pled guilty
to lying it never.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Abowed her lesbian astronaut wife draining the accounts from outer space.
I guess it's is it near space?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Where did she drain the accounts herself and try to
blame it on her astronaut? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, in the midst of a divorce, Yeah, and a
bitter custody battle.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Over kids or a Cordese French.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Bulldogs they're referring to their son. I believe it is
a human still could be a French bulldog conceived through
ivy fertilization, carried by a surrogate. Mishaw, you got two
women in this relationship, Why do you need a surrogate?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
He is lazy? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I'm sure we'll get angry emails for that. Maybe you
weren't biologically, physically anatomically able to carry a child.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Were you just lazy? Well, you got two.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Women's in this relationship, granted the ones in ounter space.
I get this so that it eliminates the one. Eh boy. Anyway,
I hope those two crazy kids can work out their
problems and co parents successfully.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
We're not going to get to it till our three
actually came across some I think interesting stuff about the
Epstein vote today. What's actually in that bill that I
didn't know?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Uh? Can you imagine going to the bank manager and saying, yeah,
I think it's my wife where strange she's draining our
accounts from space. Okay, I'll be right back, says the
bank manager, and he walks out of the office, not
knowing where to go or who to call, but just
needing a moment of time to think.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Walks out, gets in his car and drives at the
bar and that's what he does. Okay, we got more
on the way, stay here.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Tonight.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
New details about the list of perks that Glleene Maxwell
is getting behind bars.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
The warden helps her send documents and emails the warden.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Hello, warden, it's game. I'm having just an awful time
converting this file to PDS. Dear, Yeah, I'll send the
it g I. Oh, no, you want attend to this personally?
(31:35):
I'm sorry, Yes, miss, I'm sorry. Am I still on
the phone?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah, yes, Miss Maxwell?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And scene all right, Yeah, I've heard about that. Uh,
the whole her in prison thing. What's going on there?
That kind of prison? If I ever commit a crime,
I got to commit a crime that gets me sent
to one of those prisons, sounds awesome. I'd feel like
it's more of it keeps people away from me, then
keeps me away from people like I'm hearing, nobody can
come bother me.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely it'd be a white collar crime guy.
I don't know, I see a little chance for you to,
you know, go to the big house.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I don't know it just the real kind, yes, Michael.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Just more of a copyright in Frenchman type right, that's
about as dangerous as high role.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You're so right, Michael. So I just saw up on
Fox they're interviewing Walter Isaacson, author who's written some great
great books Ben Franklin's book. Right, He's got a new
book about the Declaration of Independence come out. That sounds fantastic.
There's gotta be a lot of good old timey revolutionary
stuff coming because of the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
of our country, which happens this next July fourth, two thousands.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Jim Sanderfers has got a fabulous new book coming out.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
True the obviously twenty twenty six is two hundred and
fifty years after seventeen seventy six. And so can you
look this up, Katie? Did ken Byrne Revolutionary Wars series
start already? I thought I heard a tease that it
started Sunday night, but I forgot to look into it
or whatever. I want to watch that with my son.
I'm sure it's gonna be great. I'm a big fan
(33:09):
of ken Burns documentaries. I love Founding Father's stuff, absolutely
love it. So that's cool. I hope, you know, I
hope wherever your kids are they can get a decent
dose of founding Father's stuff. That isn't all about them
being slaveholders and this and that, which is highly annoying.
(33:33):
The penny. You tweeted this out, I think, Joe, so
we got rid of the penny. We made the last
two pennies the other day. Yes, compared to its value
in nineteen sixty six, the penny is now worth a
tenth of a cent, the nickel is worth a half
a cent, and the dime is the same as what
a penny was in nineteen sixty six. Correct. That's not
(33:55):
a bad little lesson about inflation, because inflation isn't just
a thing that happened during COVID. After Joe Biden, inflation
is ongoing. At its best, it's around two percent. But
we had a period there in the late seventies early
eighties where it was horribly high, and we had a
period during COVID where it was horribly high. But so
a dime is worth what a penny was in nineteen
(34:16):
sixty six. That's a good thing to know and keep
in mind. Well, and it points out the absurdity of
having a penny. How many people between nineteen sixty six
and today would have said, it makes sense to have
a tenth of a cent piece. Nobody, No, ridiculous, No,
And I'm not sure we need the nickel that is
worth a half of a cent from nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
For what it's worth, I did all that research on
my own, using an inflation calculator and actually found and
clipped a illustration of a nineteen sixty six penny for
that tweet. I'm practically ken Burns. You did that whole
thing that was my documentary about the value of the
penny as it was.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Compared to nineteen sixty six a random hear you chose
el America. No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I found the precise year that a penny was almost
was more or less exactly a tenth of what is
worth right now.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Oh, okay, that's who you're shooting for. We us, Katie.
The American Revolution started Sunday and it goes all week. Okay.
So it's on now, and I'm sure you can find
the older episodes somewhere. So i gotta watch out with
my son. I'd love to sit down and watch out
with my son. I've seen some of the previews of
it and looks absolutely fantastic And despite what you might think,
(35:30):
having watched the interviews with Ken Burns going around, sounds
like he's gonna give up pretty good, just general like
it was, you know, me as a kid lesson in
the Revolutionary War, and it's importance in the Founding Fathers,
not some sort of new sixteen nineteen project we should
be ashamed of ourselves version exactly.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's what everybody's asking, particularly because Ken is a man
of the left. Yeah, is there gonna be Howard Zinn
wokeism in it? From what I've heard, no, which is wild.
How does he keep that out?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
How does he think it's important to keep that out
of his documentaries which he seems to have Yet in
his personal life he goes around doing all these interviews
talking like a progressive. I don't know, we'll have to see.
Wonder what that is. I wonder why he does that. Anyway.
We do a lot of hours, a lot of segments.
If you miss one, gets podcast Armstrong and Getty on
demand Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, Armstrong and Getty, and he.
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Armstrong and Getty, and finally, residents of western Ohio reported
seeing a rare black squirrel with a white tail and
white pause. That's right, some people in Ohio saw a cat.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay, So I'm looking at my bank of televisions like
I wanted to before five televisions, and we're fortunate that
we can do whatever we want. We can talk about
whatever we want, although obviously we have the goal of
talking about things you're interested in. That's kind of how
the business works. But everybody but Fox is leading the
(01:01):
hour with some version of the Epstein story, and there's
a lot of new stuff. There's a lot of new
stuff that I find somewhat interesting actually for the first
time maybe ever in this whole saga. But everybody and
Fox is going with the new revelations about the crazy
kid that tried to assassinate Trump and almost did the
crooks person. So Fox has decided not to lead with Epstein.
(01:23):
I guess because Trump's Name's attached to it. I don't
know AnyWho more on that later. So this Thomas Crooks person,
you remember, he climbed up on the roof there in Butler, Pennsylvania. Amazingly,
he was able to climb up on a roof with
a high powered rifle. People everywhere, people saw him, perfect
(01:43):
line of sight to the President of the United States
and squeeze off quite a few shots. And it's just
freaking luck that he didn't blow Donald Trump's head off
in front of all of us and change world history.
I mean, seriously, change world history. All of the Middle
East stuff would be completely different. Obviously, the economy, tariffs,
all that sort of stuff, completely different. Sure, one hundred examples, yeah,
(02:06):
a hundred examples, and then playing out in ways that
we'll never know AnyWho. Thomas Crooks. We now know more
about him. And the big question from Miranda Divine of
the New York Post is one of their lead reporters,
she broke the hundred laptop story. The big question is
why was this stuff kept from us earlier? Is there
a reason for that? Some of the stuff that is
(02:28):
out from Miranda Divines reporting Thomas Crooks had all kinds
of different accounts out there and platforms that he was
going on a lot of this reporting has been done
by people just like regular people out there figuring this
stuff out and why the ect mean if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
The official word in the wake of his arrest and identification,
well and death, was that he really had no online presence, mysterious.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
He was ghost, they called him. He had no online previence, presence,
and not really any political any of this or that.
It turns out actually he was a hardcore Trump supporter,
I mean, like really a big Trump supporter. We'll talk
more about that in a second. Some of these posts
and then flipped at some point. Nobody's exactly sure why
to a Trump hater, but sources use publicly available research
(03:20):
tools to link multiple email addresses to crooks and then
found usernames associated with those emails on all kinds of sites,
including YouTube, Snapchat, PayPal, discord, chess, dot com, Korra, deviant Art,
and others. So he had quite a presence on lots
of different sites, used in different names, and it didn't
(03:40):
sound like it took super geniuses to figure out was him.
Why the multi gazillion dollar FBI Secret Service investigation into
this after he almost killed the president didn't uncover this
stuff well, That's what the question is here, and I'm
sure a lot of people would answer yelling at their
uh listening device because the authorities didn't want to know
(04:02):
that or didn't want to tell you that.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Although having gotten to the end of this, I'm not
sure what narrative to take away other than this guy
was nuts.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But the FBI has not confirmed the details of Kirk's
possible social media accounts and did not respond to a request.
Does he have to remember the investigation would have happened
under the Biden administration FBI. Well, the Trump FBI is
not commenting on it, and it might just be because
they don't know what to say yet. But well, to
your point, though, is there anything satisfying the whole What
(04:34):
was his motive? Thing almost always turns out to be
they were a crazy, angry person, was their motive. But
we still should have known all this stuff. His early
online presence, when he would have been in high school
was almost exclusively plote pro Trump, while he also made
a number of violently anti Semitic comments and racist remarks
about Hispanic immigrants. I'll quote him now. I've always believed
(04:57):
being patriotic was lining up a bunch of socialists, Jews
like the ones that booed Trump and blasting their useless
brains out with an ar You don't think that that's
something that the we should have heard about the guy
if he's out there saying that in social media. A
YouTube account featuring Crooks's full name posted in the comments
(05:17):
under a clip of Trump being booed during the twenty
nineteen World Series in Washington. That's where he made that post.
So he did obscure it by having his entire name
on the comment on YouTube, the most used platform in
the world, right right, nobody. That's quite a trail too
under Israel name. Every one of the Trump hating Democrats
(05:40):
deserves to have their heads chopped off and put on
stakes for the world to see what happens when you
f with America, he said on one comment under an
MSNBC clip from July at twenty nineteen. I mean, this
is a guy spewing threats and violence. Shouldn't have been
on somebody's radar. I don't know how much I'm gonna
how I don't know how any violent threats you can
(06:01):
make on social media without in and up on some
sort of FBI watch list or secret service this or
that or whatever I don't actually know.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
And specifically political assassination under his real name, flagged by
users who mentioned law enforcement in their replies.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
He also described in detail how he would use an
assault rifle against a crowd of political opponents, frequently quoting
the line the only true political power comes from the
barrel of a gun. That's from Chairman mau and crooks
made violent threats against Democratic members of the Squad, Well,
you're thinking a Democrat led White House and a squad
(06:42):
friendly media. If somebody was out there making violent threats
against the squad, that would have bubbled up somehow.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, I guess the internet is just too vast. Nobody
with any connections noticed.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I guess. I hope a quick and painful death to
all the deplorable immigrants and anti Trump cong women who
don't deserve anything this country has given them, he wrote
in July of twenty nineteen, But in twenty twenty, in
the middle of the COVID pandemic, he appeared to make
a one hundred and eighty degree turn in his views
on Trump. I'm pretty sure people are just racist, and
(07:15):
Trump is one of them. There does not need to
be a deep state for that, he said on a
YouTube comment, Okay, there wasn't any reasonable defense for Trump,
he said. It's around this time that he started posting
violent artworks, According to sources, One piece titled how He
Lost his Eye from June to twenty twenty three and
shared on deviant Art, shows a figured clad in black
(07:38):
executing another figure in front of a blue and pink
backdrop matching the colors of the trans Pride flag. He
had his pronouns in some various things, ay them. I'm
told that doesn't really mean anything, though I know plenty
of people that I know for a fact aren't really
down with the trans thing, but have their pronouns on
(07:59):
headline stuff because they can't ask.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Well, he wouldn't be, but he wouldn't be listing in
his pronouns as they them.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Of course. You know, again the takeaway because.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
He flipped then and was just vicious to Trump supporters
called him sheep and cult and your two brainwashed to
realize how dumb you are.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
This is in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
So you know, he's just an angry, angry, disturbed young man.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
His personal YouTube and Google searches also reveal a pattern
of violence and an obsession with guns and famous assassinations,
which is often common with assassins. Between twenty nineteen and
twenty twenty, he made searches for Lee Harvey Oswald's killer
Jack Ruby, the Oklahoma bombing, the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando,
among other attacks. He also searched how to fire an
AR fifteen as fast as possible, as well as how
(08:46):
to make a fertilizer bomb in a moll of cocktail.
He repeatedly looked for information related to body armor, high
velocity AMMO, and riot control. He was probably thinking about
doing something. He wasn't just quite sure why yet. And
then I'm guessing he heard, Hey, the President's coming to town.
I know what I'll do, right exactly?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, So I think maybe the fundamental question here is
and I don't know the answer, but it's well, I'll
just ask the question, how did why did the authorities
claim that this guy was an online ghost and there's
nothing knowable about him when you know amateur sleuths.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Granted some time has passed.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I'm not sure why this is coming out now, frankly,
but when there is all sorts of information about this guy,
it might not lead you in a helpful direction per se.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Because I don't think it does.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Although he's a big fan of terrorism, sneaking bombs in
and shooting people and the rest of it. Looking at
another one of his quotes, how is it that that
was not found fairly quickly by our authorities?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's troubling. I naively have this view of if somebody
almost kills the former president about to be next president,
there is no rock unturned in terms of figuring this out.
Apparently there were lots of rocks that were unturned. We
got to get to this before we run out of time.
I'll tell you my favorite part about muscle mommies next.
(10:11):
And this has got no significance other than we learn
a new term. I'm sorry that sounded like you said
muscle mommies. Yes, I will, I will stay tuned.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Did you know that hackers like me love the holidays? Bastards,
fake shipping emails, sketchy social media stores, two good, be true.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Black Friday deals. That's how they lure you in.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
They get you, then they steal your information, and instead
of enjoying the holidays, you're desperately on the phone with
your bank trying to figure out if you have any
money left.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, because this time of year, practically everybody you probably
have a package going somewhere by FedEx or UPS. Right,
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Speaker 2 (11:26):
Krook apparently had a muscle mommy fetish and repeatedly searched
for videos about female bodybuilders and muscular women. So like
older women who are really big and really muscular, and
then in some of the art where it's not real women,
they're like ten feet tall and giant, towering over him,
that sort of thing. This is also from The New
(11:47):
York Post's Miranda Divine. Krook's had two possible accounts on
deviant Art for people who identify as anthropomorphized animal characters
that'd be furries and are sexually attracted to them. And
then he's got one post repost of a towering muscular
female bodybuilder and a slight man in his underwear looking
(12:08):
up at her, multiple searches for muscular women and female bodybuilders.
That's known as muscle mommies, and he apparently had a
fanger obsession with that and the furries and furries. So
maybe God went back and forth between kind of tonight,
I'm into muscle mommies, tomorrow furry or maybe maybe like
a muscle mommy dressed up as a grizzly bear. I
(12:28):
don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
He's like a two sport athlete in terms of perversion
or variation.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Have you seen the actual muscle mommy picture? I have
not set they post on there. It's a very large,
very large woman in a bikini, attractive but like the
size of an NFL football player. He was a slightly
built little fella too. Yeah. And then this picture she
(12:57):
is flexing in her bikini over this slight man. That
could be him, I guess, And that's wonder what that
is and be like lifted up and bench pressed by
a muscular checker. I think he goes beyond that, probably,
and then used as her personal pleasurement device, as it were,
(13:17):
and then in completely different categories the whole furry thing.
I guess. I don't know. I'm I don't know, journey
overlapping that ven diagram between muscle mommies and furries. Why
are you asking me? I just assume you know these things.
Do you like that? Huh? Just this thing? I just
assume you know lots of these things. Wow, wow, sick,
(13:39):
oh crazy? If you know anything about it, maybe you do.
I mean, we are on it. We are on in
San Francisco text line four one five two nine five KFTC.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
More than thirty years after the murders of Nicole Brown
Simpson and Ron Goldman, attorneys for O. J. Simpson's estate
finally agreeing to accept a nearly the eight million dollar
claim from the Goldman family.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Wow. Damn fifty eight me. Of course OJ is dead.
I think Goldman going after his money all those years
was to make OJ miserable because he feels like OJ
got away with murdering his daughter.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But son, yeah, her son, sorry, yeah Goldman. Yeah, although
the Brown family was after him too. Yeah, that's interesting.
How much money is there in the estate. I don't
know coming up. Jonathan Martin, the dean of political writers
at Politico, says Gavvy boy is the clear front runner
for the presidency.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Let's say it out loud. We'll share that terrifying information.
That's you got his new book coming out soon. We
gotta tell you about that.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh good lord, I wouldn't use it to line my
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Speaker 2 (15:17):
So Katie's wearing an armstrong and getdy sweatshirt today, a hoodie,
one of my favorites. That's great, so comfortable. So we
were told by Hansen, you have a news headline for us.
Is this true? Do you know anything about that? No? Okay,
I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
If you're most story of the day, he says, I
do what I do? Is it better not be idiotic
because I'm not in the.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Mood because we do not like people just messing around
saying weird crap. We a salary? Erry Michael hed it?
What is our story? Multi? Okay?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
There are twenty six letters in the alphabet, but one
is just not getting in off love. Linguists say the
letter T is being dropped from words like kitten, mountain
and interview coast to coast, and no one know why,
but they have named it. It's called te glottalization, and
it's a speech error that's happening mostly in the under
twenty five age range.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's interesting. My son does that, and I have no idea.
So it's it's so annoying. It's it's a it's a well,
you know, it's like up talk originally was highly annoying,
but it's just so common now I don't even notice it.
It's like everybody does it. So yeah, the dropping the
tee thing, my son has done that since he was younger,
but I didn't realize maybe he picked that up from
(16:29):
other youth. You know, it's a Southern California thing. I think.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Originally, like so many annoying speaking trends, whether the Valley girl,
the up talk in general. Now this I happen to
notice it from a couple of bands out of the
LA area who like, there's a one line was weight in,
And I'm like, wait, why did you say weight in?
(16:54):
Instead of waiting?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Wait, I'm waiting for executive producer Mike Han and joins
his hands and yeah, this.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Has been a problem in our society for quite some time,
and it needs to come to an end.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And it's not just the twenty somethings.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
This has crept up into people in their late thirties
and early forties taking over our society. I've been bothered
by it for years. It needs to come to an
end immediately. My children are being effected.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I don't like it. Bring back the tea. You've noticed
it in your kids. I've noticed that my kids.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
One of our beloved colleagues is the first person that
started doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It was such a bother and I couldn't understand why
are you dropping your teas? Yeah, any names off the
air and that, what are you doing? What's wrong with you?
We have cats? And he says, oh, it's a kitten
in what I've never said anything about it? That is
so great ing. Oh goodness, lord hell, I want to
hit them. Wow. Okay, Well it's not just my son.
(17:54):
I thought, actually thought maybe he had like a speech
embediment or something with his tongue or something that kind
of sounds like it doesn't it, stop it stop it,
But it's just picked up a social trend. Oh be darn.
Thanks for bringing that to our attention. That is an
important story. You were right, good armstrong and getdy Okay,
to show how incredibly ignorant I am on this topic.
(18:15):
Like many, I thought cloud Flair was like a Sunflair.
It's a company. Yeah, oh okay, I thought you said
dot when you said cloud Flare, I thought it was
like one. You know, there's a Sunflair or something like that.
So there's a company that has a whole bunch of
distribution of podcasts, things going on around it, including us,
(18:36):
but like Twitter and all kinds of different things, and
they're having an outage today.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yes, yeah, it's a web security conglomerate.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Okay, but I know nothing about that, And it's fascinating
from the whole so many things tied together. If the
Chinese ever decide to hack us, what's gonna happen thang
that we'll all get to live through someday And won't
it be exciting?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Well, I think that whether it was one big outage,
it feels like it was probably a year ago or so.
That was a fairly insignificant company in the delivery chain
of web services, that sort of thing that updated its software,
that you tech folks that know what I'm talking about.
And well, right, it's just it's all so tied together.
(19:20):
It's not like you can, you know, go around a
leak in a water main by attaching a hose or
something like that. It's a little more difficult to get
around problems.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, if you listen to the show, you know I'm
a big reader. I love reading. I love keeping track
of what new books are coming out. I got a
list of books a thousand long books I want to read.
This probably won't make the list, but it's coming out
right after the first of the year. Gavin Newsome young
man in a hurry a Memoir of Discovery with him
on the cover as looking very young Kennedy Like, this
(19:57):
is not an accident. It's a black and white picture.
I mean, it seems clear to me to're trying to
give him Kennedy vibes. Yeah, black and white picture. He's
in just a shirt and tie walking down a city street,
like you know, he's probably mayor at the time, like
a guy, you know, I'm really working hard for the
people of San Francisco. Young Man in a hurry a
Memoir of Discovery. That title makes me want to vomit,
(20:23):
but probably not what they're going for. I was reading
Mark Calprin's column over the weekend, and he has gone
from kind of high issue Gavin Newssom but not that high,
to full on high on Gavin Newsom. Thinks Gavin Newsom
is a major, major force to be reckoned with in
terms of running for president. So I don't know what's
(20:45):
made people change their views on this, but that's where
it is.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Jonathan Martin is Politico's senior Political Commonists columnist. Wow, that's
a funny Freudian slip politics bureau chief. He's really the
head writer there and his pieces admit it. Gavin Newsom
is the twenty twenty eight front runner, of course his subhead.
For years, Democrats and pundits have rolled their eyes at
(21:10):
Gavin Newsom, but he's positioned better than anyone else for
the future of politics. The opening sentence, which is a
bit of a run on, Jonathan, is an absolute statement
of how big the divide is between politics and governance.
(21:31):
Politics being in for the purpose of this discussion, running
for off his gaining votes, raising money, governance being what
the hell are you going to do in office?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And then you get the whole. Then you got the whole.
Run you run in poetry and government prose thing. Yeah right, yeah,
So here's your run on sentence. No Democrat has had
a better two years than Gavin Newsom. And because all
we could start right there, that is purely about politics,
(22:04):
not governance. Governance wise nightmare.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Ask any cal Unicornian, including Democrats.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
The last two of all human we all fall short.
Sometimes when all the Walgreens had to close in all
the cities because there's so much crime and homeless people
and your toothpaste is locked up, energy bills skyrocketing, and
then the horrifying fires and people can't get any help
because of the red tape in California. Yeah, it's been
a great two years.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Test results coming out showing this kids know nothing, have
learned nothing. It's terrible bottomed out anyway, I'll read the
whole sentence. Now, no Democrat has had a better two
years than Gavin Newsom, and because of it, the California governor,
a national figure since he was a thirty six year
old boy mayor, has claimed a new title front runner.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
It's easy to find Newsome naysayers.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
In fact, there may not be a modern political figure
who was simultaneously so well positioned to be his party's
nominee and so doubted by the smart set since well,
Joe Biden in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Will how that turnout?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, he won barely, and then Jess became one of
the worst presidents in American history. But Jonathan will let
that go. But he says, let's not make the mistake
of ignoring what's in plain view and give the governor's
due by the old rules of Democratic nominations. Newsom fits
neatly in the tradition of Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama,
(23:30):
younger outsider candidates who could credibly run fresh campaigns against
the Washington status quo while claiming enough insider credentials to
reassure party mandarins who care about such things.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
As we've talked about a lot over many years. Because
this is applied to Arnold for whatever reason, three thousand
miles away here in California from DC and New York,
they just have no idea what's going on out here.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
No, they invent narratives and they run with them, and
just everybody repeats it in East Coast media about the
West Coast all, you know, the entire West Coast.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's why I hope that the New York Post actually
ends up with a California bureau like they're talking about.
Maybe you could get some reporters in California that actually
know what's happening, because they reported stuff about Arnold all
the time that just wasn't true. Yeah, we thought it
was hilarious reading, you know what.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Honestly, I need to reassess my discussion of the out
of touchedness of the Eastern media.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I don't think they have a single effing.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Idea what's going on west of Ohio, because I was
about to include Nevada and Arizona in the West coast,
because you know, I know the politics of those states
fairly well, and the East coast media has no idea
what's going on. But then Illinois, even they just I've
never read any good analysis of Illinois politics out of
the East Coast media anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Newsom, this part is true and troubling.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Newsom is also the bet position Democrat according to the
new rules of politics, namely, whether you can, whether you
are or can become famous by breaking through on social media.
How many other potential candidates are plausible celebrities who can
transcend the political pop culture divide.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'll Abama and Trump if.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
You believe the phone in your hand will more than
any factor determine the next Democratic nominee. It's hard not
to grasp new some strength. As the kids say, he
gives main character energy.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
He laugh, I laughed, main character energy, all right. Actually
the kids would say main character or energy because they
don't say teas anymore. That's right, laziness. Yeah, yeah, Well,
it's so my youngest last night I said he's just
going to live off the government. It's oh. I was
(25:55):
talking about his grades and various things. I'll just what
are you gonna do when you're eighteen? And I've given
a very I mean, it could have been straight out
of a sitcom. I was given such a classic dad speech.
But his answer was I'll just live off the government.
Frankfully made me laugh. Moral arguments about that. He knows
(26:16):
how I feel about that, So he was trying to anyway.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
So the thing about Gaffy and this is not a
political liability in a especially a pre primary period, which
we're talking about right now. Good god, it's only twenty
twenty five and we're actually contemplating on even a little
bit the twenty twenty eight race. But on which side
of the party's liberal versus moderate divide will knew some
(26:42):
position himself.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Jonathan Martin asks, neither I wanted to be the mansion
to Mamdani party. I wanted to be inclusive.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
The government told the governor told him last week, well
good luck with that.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Mad mansion.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
That's that's that's clever because it's got two m's in it.
What would that look like, because I don't think the
mansion or mansion adjacent Democrats of today have any patients
at all with the Mumdani super woke crowd anymore because
they realize it's dragging him down. In fact, the Free
Press had a great piece by this young woman who
(27:21):
is a you know, San Francisco based fundraiser and mover
and shaker and the Democratic Party and left it and
it's an interesting essay about what happens to you personally
when you do that and online it's brutal, absolutely brutal.
But Gavin is nothing, But he is nothing if not calculating,
and he does not want to run off a single
(27:44):
you know, cohort of the Democratic vote at this point,
which is probably smart.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
So all right, he's officially.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
On the uh well, he's been on the radar screen
for a long time, but he has now been christened
anointed by several media heavyweights as the Democrat.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Right. Well, all depends on who runs against him, of course,
and then events make a very big deal. As John
McCain was the nominee for the Republicans when we thought
the main issue was going to be the war in
Iraq and Barack Obama was his opponent, and the main
(28:23):
issue ended up being the financial crisis and the collapse
and turning to a war veteran with strong opinions on
the war in Iraq. Nobody cared because it was all
about the economy. You just you never know, You never know, right.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
You want to hear my favorite headline of the day,
woman pleads guilty to lying about astronaut wife accessing bank
account from space station. That is definitely one of those headlines. Wait,
I'm sorry, I need to hear that one more time.
There's a lot happening here. Woman pleads guilty to lying
(28:58):
about astronaut wife accessing bank account from space stage.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay, I'd missed the first part. The woman pled guilty
to lying it never.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Abowed her lesbian astronaut wife draining the accounts from outer space.
I guess it's is it near space?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Where did she drain the accounts herself and try to
blame it on her astronaut? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, in the midst of a divorce, Yeah, and a
bitter custody battle.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Over kids or a Cordese French.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Bulldogs they're referring to their son. I believe it is
a human still could be a French bulldog conceived through
ivy fertilization, carried by a surrogate. Mishaw, you got two
women in this relationship, Why do you need a surrogate?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
He is lazy? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I'm sure we'll get angry emails for that. Maybe you
weren't biologically, physically anatomically able to carry a child.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Were you just lazy? Well, you got two.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Women's in this relationship, granted the ones in ounter space.
I get this so that it eliminates the one. Eh boy. Anyway,
I hope those two crazy kids can work out their
problems and co parents successfully.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
We're not going to get to it till our three
actually came across some I think interesting stuff about the
Epstein vote today. What's actually in that bill that I
didn't know?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Uh? Can you imagine going to the bank manager and saying, yeah,
I think it's my wife where strange she's draining our
accounts from space. Okay, I'll be right back, says the
bank manager, and he walks out of the office, not
knowing where to go or who to call, but just
needing a moment of time to think.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Walks out, gets in his car and drives at the
bar and that's what he does. Okay, we got more
on the way, stay here.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Tonight.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
New details about the list of perks that Glleene Maxwell
is getting behind bars.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
The warden helps her send documents and emails the warden.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Hello, warden, it's game. I'm having just an awful time
converting this file to PDS. Dear, Yeah, I'll send the
it g I. Oh, no, you want attend to this personally?
(31:35):
I'm sorry, Yes, miss, I'm sorry. Am I still on
the phone?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah, yes, Miss Maxwell?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And scene all right, Yeah, I've heard about that. Uh,
the whole her in prison thing. What's going on there?
That kind of prison? If I ever commit a crime,
I got to commit a crime that gets me sent
to one of those prisons, sounds awesome. I'd feel like
it's more of it keeps people away from me, then
keeps me away from people like I'm hearing, nobody can
come bother me.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely it'd be a white collar crime guy.
I don't know, I see a little chance for you to,
you know, go to the big house.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I don't know it just the real kind, yes, Michael.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Just more of a copyright in Frenchman type right, that's
about as dangerous as high role.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You're so right, Michael. So I just saw up on
Fox they're interviewing Walter Isaacson, author who's written some great
great books Ben Franklin's book. Right, He's got a new
book about the Declaration of Independence come out. That sounds fantastic.
There's gotta be a lot of good old timey revolutionary
stuff coming because of the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
of our country, which happens this next July fourth, two thousands.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Jim Sanderfers has got a fabulous new book coming out.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
True the obviously twenty twenty six is two hundred and
fifty years after seventeen seventy six. And so can you
look this up, Katie? Did ken Byrne Revolutionary Wars series
start already? I thought I heard a tease that it
started Sunday night, but I forgot to look into it
or whatever. I want to watch that with my son.
I'm sure it's gonna be great. I'm a big fan
(33:09):
of ken Burns documentaries. I love Founding Father's stuff, absolutely
love it. So that's cool. I hope, you know, I
hope wherever your kids are they can get a decent
dose of founding Father's stuff. That isn't all about them
being slaveholders and this and that, which is highly annoying.
(33:33):
The penny. You tweeted this out, I think, Joe, so
we got rid of the penny. We made the last
two pennies the other day. Yes, compared to its value
in nineteen sixty six, the penny is now worth a
tenth of a cent, the nickel is worth a half
a cent, and the dime is the same as what
a penny was in nineteen sixty six. Correct. That's not
(33:55):
a bad little lesson about inflation, because inflation isn't just
a thing that happened during COVID. After Joe Biden, inflation
is ongoing. At its best, it's around two percent. But
we had a period there in the late seventies early
eighties where it was horribly high, and we had a
period during COVID where it was horribly high. But so
a dime is worth what a penny was in nineteen
(34:16):
sixty six. That's a good thing to know and keep
in mind. Well, and it points out the absurdity of
having a penny. How many people between nineteen sixty six
and today would have said, it makes sense to have
a tenth of a cent piece. Nobody, No, ridiculous, No,
And I'm not sure we need the nickel that is
worth a half of a cent from nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
For what it's worth, I did all that research on
my own, using an inflation calculator and actually found and
clipped a illustration of a nineteen sixty six penny for
that tweet. I'm practically ken Burns. You did that whole
thing that was my documentary about the value of the
penny as it was.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Compared to nineteen sixty six a random hear you chose
el America. No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I found the precise year that a penny was almost
was more or less exactly a tenth of what is
worth right now.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Oh, okay, that's who you're shooting for. We us, Katie.
The American Revolution started Sunday and it goes all week. Okay.
So it's on now, and I'm sure you can find
the older episodes somewhere. So i gotta watch out with
my son. I'd love to sit down and watch out
with my son. I've seen some of the previews of
it and looks absolutely fantastic And despite what you might think,
(35:30):
having watched the interviews with Ken Burns going around, sounds
like he's gonna give up pretty good, just general like
it was, you know, me as a kid lesson in
the Revolutionary War, and it's importance in the Founding Fathers,
not some sort of new sixteen nineteen project we should
be ashamed of ourselves version exactly.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's what everybody's asking, particularly because Ken is a man
of the left. Yeah, is there gonna be Howard Zinn
wokeism in it? From what I've heard, no, which is wild.
How does he keep that out?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
How does he think it's important to keep that out
of his documentaries which he seems to have Yet in
his personal life he goes around doing all these interviews
talking like a progressive. I don't know, we'll have to see.
Wonder what that is. I wonder why he does that. Anyway.
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