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November 18, 2025 35 mins

Hour 1 of A&G features...

  • Internet outage, super computing, Trump & the filet o fish
  • Katie Green's Headlines!
  • The Epstein Saga!
  • Mailbag! 

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Kaddy.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Armstrong and Tecating and he arms wrong get live from
the studio. Scene says, y'all.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
We are in a dimly lit room, deep within the
bowels of the Armstrong and getting communications compounded. Today we're
under the tutelage of our general manager cloud flair.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
All right, I don't know that term cloud flair. He
says it again loudly.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
It's a web safety guidance cloud.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Based something another system that.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Is involved with like a lot of the biggest websites
on Earth, and is screwed up for some reason today
as we are speaking these words, really it's taken down
x formerly known as Twitter's what's the fullest, Katie, You
have a better grasp of it than I do.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
X Chat gpt.

Speaker 6 (01:20):
Ubers down right now, Spotify aol is kicking.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh yeah, you've got always.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, so it's always online, right, I can check my mail?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Is it a Chinese hackititag? That's the question I'm asking
because that seems exciting. If that Chinese hackitak ever does come,
it's going to be a hell of a day.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, it comes all the time, hundreds of times per day.
It's just you're talking about the big one. It happened
over the weekend, as we talked a lot about yesterday,
by using anthropics own AI to go after companies, the
first time that's ever really been done. And so who
knows what today is could be something like that absolutely
could be, and they might not tell us even if

(02:07):
it was, which is probably a good idea.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, yeah, they'll just say, you know, an error was
made during a software update. We apologize for any inconvenience,
which is fine again as long as our best and
brightest are fighting the stuff as hard as they can.
But I was just thinking, Okay, so the whole web
goes down and number one, the announcement goes out over
I guess am radio or something what is happening and

(02:30):
that everybody should remain calm, And I would think, you know,
what the hell with the modern world?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Anyway?

Speaker 4 (02:36):
I don't like it. I haven't enjoyed it. How many
times have I said that I'm just gonna go into
the woods that I'm going to realize, Wait a minute,
all of my money is accessible only via the web, right,
you know?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Go, you know, walk up to Charles Schwab or Fidelity
or do you have your money?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Folks, you're gonna like it.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Walk in the bottom of their skyscraper in Manhattan, say
excuse me. My name is Joe Getty and you have
my money, and I would like it now, I wouldn't
know how to begin.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Isn't that long? Propanic?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know that's true with all money, including crypto. You know,
crypto's scene is the great way around a lot of
a lot of modern problems. But you still got to
have online ability to get your crypto right. Oh yeah,
spilled and you can't even well. I suppose you could
turn it into cash, but I don't know where from.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Whom I spilled coffee. Give me just a second. Oh no,
I'm sorry to see it not on my bright white shirt.
Thank goodness, that goes with my suit.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I won't belabor this right now, but I probably will
labor it and then belabor it afterwards. I started reading
last night because I was watching listening to a podcast.
The book came out a year or two ago by
one of your fathers of Internet of AI. If anyone
builds it, everyone dies.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Is the name of his book, Well, at least you
avoided alarmism.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, and he was one of the biggest proponents in
the world, leading the charge for decades about AI and
how important it was and how it was coming and
we need to be in front of it and everything
like that. Just the biggest cheerleader there was for AI.
One of your big names that most of you wouldn't known,
but just in case you would, it's Ellie. It's the
old British seller Elie Yodkowski.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
No.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
But then a few years back he decided, no, this
is going to destroy mankind in a whole bunch of
different ways, and we've got to stop this, and he
wrote that book. If anyone builds it, everyone dies. He
takes it as far as and he's got several chapters
where he runs through various scenarios on how it could
just destroy the planet or human human beings, or the
environment or all kinds of different things. But he goes

(04:41):
so far as it might be a situation where we
need to outline outlaw companies attempting to build AGI or
ASI super intelligence as opposed to just general intelligence. Anybody
trying to build super intelligence, make it against the law.
And if they continue to build it bomb their factories.
I mean, that's how big a deal it is.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
He thinks, Holy cow, I don't know this guy is
whether he's you know, a bit of a crack pot
or prone to such you know, crazy rhetoric.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
But that's that's a hell of an opinion. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
So there's AI artificial intelligence, and he got AGI artificial
general intelligences, maybe maybe a lot of you know, that's
basically when it's as smart as the smartest person in
the world and can program itself and everything like that.
They think the leap from AGI to ASI super intelligence,
which is beyond anything in the human beings have been
able to think. Our mind could be like two hours long.

(05:36):
Once AGI starts all of a sudden, when it can
program each other, it'll be to super intelligence like that.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I just had a thought. It'll say, yeah, yeah, okay,
So I was going to ask.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
You to define for we the the half baked this
artificial super intelligence.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
But nobody knows, is your point. Well, it will be
able to leap tall buildings in a single bounty.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
It'll be able to think on a level that nobody's
ever even really been able to imagine. Right, But I'll
talk more about that later, because there's some really interesting
scenarios and all there. It's just good news. I have
cured all cancer.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Bad news, I suppose from your perspective, I'm going to
kill you all in three right, two, This is ironic.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
One.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I just listened to a story of broadcast story about
one of the hot toys that are out this year
are AI toys that you have hooked up to the Internet,
and so little kids can play with a doll, for instance,
and ask it questions and it can answer, and it
gets to know your kid's name and gets to know
your kid's personality and interests in you know, it's like
the AI chat body, except for its little kids. But

(06:42):
there have been examples out there of the little AI
teddy Bear telling your four year old how to start
a fire, or where to get the knives in mom's drawer,
or various things like that.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Trying to think if I've ever heard a worse side
d nothing's popping to mind.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
No kid, holy crap, Oh my god. If you buy
that for your well, it's because you don't know. People
who would buy that for their kid aren't paying attention
to the whole AI story.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
The way some of us are.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Right, which is not a mortal sin exactly, but I
mean that is an incredible lack of judgment. And you've
already reproduced, So I can't say I hope you don't
reproduce if you're buying it for your child.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, I can.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Bind to think if I get Is there a worst
idea I've ever come across. No, that's the worst idea,
that one right there, putting AI chapbots in the hands
of the youngest among us.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
There's there's a conceit among human beings, has been for
thousands of years, that these are the end times. It's
exciting to people. They feel it. It's like an ego trick.
Well they were all wrong in the past, Yes, well
exactly they would. They flattered themselves that these are the
critical times, as ordained in scriptures or whatever they're belief

(08:00):
system is. But then you know, they come and they go,
and life chugs on. I know it wasn't the end times.
You should have lightened up and enjoyed your life. Right,
I'm increasingly feeling like this might be getting toward it,
and as it's coming, as it's you know, it all's crumbling.
I don't think I'm gonna think, Wow, this is exciting.

(08:22):
I'm gonna think, damn, I.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Was on a roll. Thanks for going so well? What
money saved? I got a pretty nice house. I ah,
damn it.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
One of my favorite I think it might even be
a chapter from the book. This gets into the there's
a crowd of people called accelerationists.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
There's I'm like a.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Doomsday person or doom sayer, have different a doomer, people
that only see downside's day. I'm in that crowd, really,
but the accelerationists are people that it's split into two camps.
It's people that we either think this is gonna be
the greatest thing ever. You aren't gonna have to work,
and we're gonna cure all kinds of diseases, will live
longer than we ever have, nobody has to go to work,

(09:04):
blah blah blah, the greatest time in human history. Other
people are doomers, but they believe it's gonna happen to
whether I like it or not. And it's better us
than China. And the saying in the AI crowd is
you'll recognize this saying from those of us who are
fans of being able to own a gun legally, the

(09:24):
only way to stop a bad guy with AI with ASI. Really,
the only way to stop a bad guy with AI
is a good guy with AI is us getting it
first chat GBT or Grock or whoever, being ahead of
the Chinese.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
So it's basically that. Honestly, I don't see any alternative
to that point of view. Now that that makes a
lot of sense to me. I take a shred of
encouragement from the fact that in the wake of the
first half of the twentieth century, really the nineteenth century two,
which was never ending warfare practically for ending on every

(10:01):
continent everywhere, the development of the atomic bomb in the forties,
virtually everybody believed for a very long time this is
the genie. We have unleashed it. It will take us all.
This is that dark turn of history, and yet human
beings need for self preservation is sting. Put it so

(10:23):
movingly in the nineties, I hope the Russians love their
children too.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Turns out we all kind of do and nuclear doomsday
has not occurred.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
This is a different beast for sure, right well, are
a dynamic similar enough that I can stop worrying and
get a little shut ey.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well, what we think will cease to matter once the
superintelligence comes. It'll be whatever AI wants to do and
thinks best for the planet or best for it. Oh whoops, Yeah,
there's the up and it does not love its children
too for obvious reasons, I think. Anyway, let's start the
show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this

(10:59):
It is Towoesday, November eighteenth, the or twenty twenty five
or Armstrong and getting we approved of this program.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
I just hope AI doesn't knock out the Scots distilleries
because I want to go hammered when I go.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
All right, goodbye for the world.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Let's begin officially now according to f SEC rules, Rex,
here we go swinging in action at Mark one of
the greatest, most admired, and most successful companies in the
history of the world.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Frankly, the one and only McDonald's. I've gone there a
couple of times.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
And I'm honitor to stand before you as the very
first former McDonald's Trike.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Cook ever to become President of.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
The United States.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
And it has been revealed his favorite McDonald's sen which
is the fileo fish and he likes extra tartar sauce.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Oh, Katie recoiled visibly.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
I thought was for no reason. I've never tried one.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I don't you how. I was a Falia fishman as
a teenager.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, I like that fl fish is a good sandwich,
and I agree extra tarti sauce, it's perfectly good order.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Wow, I might have one of those today in honor
of the president.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Well, the president the political narrative of the day, and
it is not wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Is that Trump is.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Clearly losing his kung fu grip on the Republican Party.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
He's losing his voice. Is he okay? Is he ill?

Speaker 4 (12:22):
He said he'd ragged out his voice shouting at someone. Wow,
he said he was yelling at someone. He apologized as
he began that speech. I don't know if we have
that clip.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's pretty funny. Sorry, I lost my voice. Not he
was yelling at someone?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well? Who?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
And how much right was it Baron for not having
his grades up? Or was it the attorney general or Putin?
I mean it matters who.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I don't know. I don't know. There are many choices.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
As he's been in a couple of rhetorical wrestling matches
lately within his own party, hence that narrative.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Well, it's team day. I hope you got your loved
ones a gift that they're voting on that thing today
and that's the only thing lots of news outlets are
talking about.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Oh, for God's sake.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Alprin said in his newsletter, it might be a unanimous
vote in the House, might be four thirty four, or
however many people are there nothing?

Speaker 4 (13:15):
You know what come on in AI? I changed my mind.
Bringing on Jack just changed my mind, bringing on takeovers.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Terminate us. Whatever's the next planet of the Ants? Is that?

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Is that? What's coming next day? They seem well organized
and hard working the Ants. Whatever's next got to be
better than this. Yeah, we got Katie's headlines on the
way stay here.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
A lot to fit in with what Joe was just
saying about Trump losing his kung fu grip on Maga.
Really there's a group out there that's more Maga than
he is. And Marjorie Daylor Green's just made quite a statement.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
You got this flyind bad built, butsch body that's her,
That's that's the gal.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
And so we'll have that for you coming up a
little bit later. Interesting where this all goes?

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Nobody know?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Is also the dean of I'm sorry, we don't have
time for this screen. It's fascinating, though. The dean of
Politico's political writers says, Gavin Newsom is in lying to
be the next president. Good low, wow, that story coming up.
But first, who's reporting what? It's lead story?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's Katie Green Katie.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
So of course somebody texted this to me. Okay, where
do bad rainbows get sent? Prism? Oh wow, wow, child.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
I think how hard you're laughing at it is the
best part, all right. Epstein's the big story.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
So here's the top three headlines on that House to
vote on full Epstein files release the move Speaker Mike
Johnson fought for months.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
That's from ABC CNN.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
The prospect of an embarrassing defeat convinced Trump to reverse
course on the Epstein files, and then MS now formerly
known as MSNBC. Trump faces his biggest house rebellion yet
and pretends it's his idea.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
M I saw another headline that Trump's sure it'll fail
in the Senate, so he thought, what the hecklest go ahead?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, and he was gonna lose. I don't think they
know why I was fighting it.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I don't think knowing that anybody will remember any of
this in a week, the voting and who pushed what
and whatever.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I just don't think it's gonna matter.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
From the Washington Times, Oh snap, one hundred and eighty
six thousand dead people got tax dollars for food?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Got tax?

Speaker 5 (15:27):
What tax dollars?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Hey, chant benefits?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Do you have the headline I sent you?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Because we're getting texts from you from wondering why we
haven't talked about it yet.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
It's coming right now, gotcha?

Speaker 6 (15:38):
New York Post Thomas Crooks used they them pronouns, had
an obsession with political violence.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
And muscle mommies.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Miranda Devine at the New York Post, who's the one
who broke the hundred laptop story, so sometimes she's onto
big stories. She claims that the Biden Justice Department hit
a bunch of information about the would be assassin who
shot Trump in the hand that we should have known about,
and it's out now and it's pretty interesting and stuff,
and we get to talk about muscle mommies, which is.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Something I didn't know anything about, uh nor I muscle
mommies Okay USA.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
Today cloud fare outage impacts Chat GPT, Spotify X and
other websites.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
How are they all tied together like that?

Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's what's interesting to me is that I don't know
anything about that world. It's like that outage a couple
of weeks ago, and it turned out it was all
Amazon's websites. And then that's what I found out. That
Amazon's biggest business isn't it set out me. Ser isn't
sending me packages, It's hosting various companies. So the way
that all these places are tied together is completely unknown
to most of us.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I think.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
From Chat GPT per Chat GPT study finds Chat GPT's
hallucination problem study finds more than half of AI's references
are fabricated or contain errors.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
I have a theory on that. I actually want to
talk to somebody in AI about it, but we'll get
to that later.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
This cloud fair outage is affecting the Babylon Bee, so
I've moved over to the onion twirling Britney Spears unaware
phone died hours ago.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
She was spinning around in her kitchen with her knives. Wait,
think of this thing isn't even on damn it. Oh,
Marjorie Taylor Green as she's broken officially with the President's
we'll see we got that and other.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Stuff on the way Armstrong and Geeddy.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I just came across something that for the first time
makes this whole Epstein saga somewhat interesting to me.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
So we'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Wow, maybe you've heard this that Larry Summers has stepped
back from public life. Really so Larry Summers, president Harvard
way back in the day, got fired for correctly saying
that dudes are better at engineering, math stuff as a
whole than women, because it's just a fact, just demographically,

(17:57):
demographically as a whole, it's just true. All kinds of
statistically true can be proven. He said it out loud.
He had to quit as a president of Harvard. Anyway,
He's still a very powerful strategist and thinker for the
Democrats for a long time. Is like a normal Democrat,
not a wacko. But he was center left guy, very

(18:18):
smart Secretary of the Treasury under Obama, and then you know,
shows up on shows all the time talking about this
or that. Well, some of the emails from the whole
Epstein thing that came out last week were pretty embarrassing
for him, and he says he is a horribly embarrassed
and he's resigning from public life. He will keep his
job as a professor at Harvard, but he's no longer
going to be, you know, going on TV shows, speaking

(18:39):
on boards, all that different sort of stuff. What are
the embarrassing emails? And this leads to the first interesting
thing that I've come across, really since the whole Epstein
saga began. In one set of emails, Larry Summers confided
all back up just a second Summer's statement saying he
is embarrassed in resigning for public life after the release

(19:01):
of emails between the men as part of all the
blah blah blah we know from last week. Some of
the exchanges with Summers took place in twenty eighteen and
twenty nineteen, after the Miami Herald had published a lengthy
investigation into Epstein's abuse of young girls. A decade earlier,
Epstein had pleaded guilty to charges related to soliciting a
minor for prostitution.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
So years after this was all.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Public knowledge that Epstein was a scumbag, you know, he
was a sexual purf, even if they were of age.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Not the kind of guy.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
You're a Larry Summers that you should be hanging out
with and partying with even if they were girls of age.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
The fact that they were underage.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Puts him in an absolute you shouldn't be going there category.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
But he continued the emaility.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
A quick quick reflection on the fact that the guy
gets tried and convicted. He got a sweetheart deal, but
he did time for trafficking underage girls for the purposes
of prostitution. Then he goes right back to it right
herve with a with a felony conviction on his record.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Eh, and or he understands the world of the powerful,
and he had no reason to think he couldn't continue,
which is going to get to my point here in
a second. But Larry Summers continue to email and with
his good friend it apparently seems to be Jeffrey Epstein.
After that and one set I've email, Summers confided in
Epstein about his efforts to pursue a romantic relationship with

(20:25):
a woman he described as a mentee.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
You're a mentor and they're your mentees. Wow.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
So he gets a hold of Epstein says, I'm mentoring
this girl. How do I go about you know, getting
her in the sack. Oh wow, you go to an expert,
right right. Epstein offered him advice and called himself Summers wingman.
I'll be your wingman. Ha ha ha. This is after
you knew what kind of guy he was. And other messages,
Summers quipped about women's intelligence that's the topic that led

(20:53):
to his resignation at Harvard, and complained about punishment of
men who hit on women in the workplace.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
So blah blah, blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
What I wanted to get to that I found really
really interesting was something Rich Lowry of National Review wrote
what he took from all these emails that came out
last week. So often journalists like myself attempt to demonstrate
to family members and voters in the far reaches of
the country, away from centers of power and money, that
their conspiracy theories are false. I end up in that

(21:23):
situation myself that politicians are flawed, but the corruption is
not the norm. A lot of these conspiracies aren't true.
Isn't how we all operate. But the Epstein emails suggest otherwise.
They suggest that in fact, there is a widespread code
among people with power and money who support one another.
They are pals no matter what side of the aisle

(21:43):
they're in a club, no matter the sins of their members,
transgressions that get contextualized, explained away, understood in quotes. That
does seem to be what we have learned, and that
includes Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I guess who.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
You know, he was probably more angry about the fact
that Epstein was snatching girls from his club than the
lifestyle of Epstein, Right, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Suspect that's true.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
You know, I don't know if it's the same piece
or a different one Rich wrote, but he's writing about
the Epstein conspiracy and plain sight, this guy was an
unbelievable networker. He had rich and powerful friends, which tend
to attract rich and powerful friends. He appeared to be
wealthy or at least very very close to wealth, and

(22:32):
he was extremely helpful to people. And you know, it's funny.
I've run into people who are like that wouldn't be enough.
I actually know at least probably two people, one in
particular like that, unbelievably charming and outgoing, intelligent, funny, really helpful,
and actually enjoys introducing you would.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Really like this person, just a master networker, really nice,
person too.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
By the way, for what it's worth, I can absolutely
buy that that's why he had so many rich and
powerful friends. He was just that kind of guy operating
in the upper reaches of Manhattan society.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't think that means.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Everybody who is nice to him was molesting sixteen year olds.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
No, but it does mean apparently, or at least Rich
Lowry is writing that, it does mean that if you
find out he's that kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
You think, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I mean, you know, people have their flaws and you don't,
and politics go out the window at that point. Who's
a Democrat, who's a Republican? Despite what you say on
talk shows about the other side being evil, y'all all
hang out together and keep your secrets from each other
or with each other from the public. Apparently, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
absolutely so, Rich writes, populists have a different narrative at

(23:47):
hand that is consistent with the known record, namely that
most of the privileged members of our society, at the
very top of the financial, academic, political, media, and social worlds,
had no standards or ethics and embraced Epstein as a
friend and can singly Epstein knew influential people so influential,
people felt that they should know him. They considered him
fun and useful for advice, for banter, for introductions, for information,

(24:09):
and for donations. Emails suggest and there are thousands of them,
that Epstein missed his calling as a high level SEEMI
advice columnist for the rich and powerful. Want to know
more about the reputation of the woman you're having an
affair with, seeking advice on how to gain political influence
in Europe, Wondering how you're handling your interactions with a
potential mistress, looking for insights about Donald Trump, trying to

(24:30):
survive sexual harassment allegations, need a reference for a gastro enterologist, Well,
then ask Jeffrey Epstein, what is the nature of the emails?
And rich points out emailed even with former Harvard president
Larry Summers just mentioned the linguist Gnome Chomsky, venture capitalists
I've never heard of, Emarati businessman Sultan Nahmad bid Salayam,

(24:51):
Trump activist Steve Bannon, the journalist Michael Wolfe, the artist
Andre Serrano, the department store sci on Jonathan fark Is,
former White House counsel Catherine Rumler, among many others.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
That is something.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
If Rolodex has still existed, he'd have like the best
rolodex in the world.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
How about the fact that a guy like Larry Summers,
after it's known publicly known what kind of guy Epstein is,
is still going with him. Hey, I got this chick
I'm mentoring and I kind of want to get with her.
What do you suggest?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
What?

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I wonder what he was telling his friends about the
first conviction. I bet he said he's got he got railroaded.
I don't know, and they chose to believe it.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
So the House is voting on the releasing of the
Epstein files today. A lot of mainstream media is still
treating this as the most important story in America. One
interesting caveat that doesn't get brought up that much is
Trump has the power to release all these files like
last week. Of course, so did Biden, by the way,
but Trump could skip all this voting and you know,

(26:02):
going out there and saying I want all the Republicans vote,
where he doesn't even need to have the voting.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
He could just say let him lose. He's got that power.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Although it might be like you said earlier, he knows
it's going to die in the Senate so they're not
going to come out.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Regardless of that.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
They're having a press conference right now Representative Massey, who've
played a lot of the Republican who wants everything to
come out along with the Rocanna Democrat. They're a co
chairs of whatever the Scumbag Committee I get. Apparently that's
the committee they're own to release the files. And they're
there with a whole bunch of the victims. These are
women that worked for Jeffrey Epstein and had to do
all these horrible things. Last night on MSNBC when I

(26:40):
was watching them or what's it called now ms ms now?
Last night on ms now, they said there are.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
A thousand victims. A thousand. So doesn't that mean some
to you?

Speaker 3 (26:53):
That there are a thousand women out there who have
come forward and not one of them is claiming that
she was in a room making out with Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Not one of them. Doesn't that mean something to you
in terms.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Of the whole this is going to get to Trump.
I need to know about the thousand quote unquote victims.
I need to know more about that. I don't even
know what that means.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
But doesn't that seem odd? That not?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
It's not odd because I don't think Trump was doing that,
but that you're running a theory that Trump is going
to get nailed on this. This is the big cover up.
You got a thousand women out there, not one of
them is saying and you know, you'd think there'd be
one of them saying and even to weren't true, just
because it'd be exciting and you'd get you a lot
of tension and you could get on all the shows
and maybe write a book. But nobody's saying.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
That, right, Yeah, yeah, it's it's ridiculous. Honestly, I've thought
that most of this whole thing is ridiculous for a
long time, as I've tried to make clear. But so
we got well, the entire Democratic Party, in about a
third of the Republican Party was trying desperately to assassinate
his character for the last ten years, especially in the
run up to the last election, to the point of
twisting laws and engaging in some of the most egregious

(27:56):
and shameless lawfair ever seen in the history of the republic.
But they had these smoking guns of child rape and
they just what forgot well, and then it just lakers belief, well,
who are you applying the word? They too, because you
got the other angle of You had some of the
most prominent mega voices in America for the past many
years have been claiming there's this giant child predator conspiracy

(28:20):
trafficking thing going on, including Dan Bongino of the FBI.
That's another third of the GOP that would want to
dig that up if they had it right.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
So you got that whole angle of it. And Marjorie
Taylor Green was in that crowd. She is about as
magga as anybody out there, very high profile.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Everyone knows that.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Georgia House member is you know, well she this is
this is days ago when Trump didn't want Republicans to
vote yesterday.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
He now says vote yesterday.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
But when he was saying, don't vote yesterday, and he
went after a couple of people like Lauren Bobert and uh,
Marjorie Taylor Green.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
And then she's Marjorie.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Trader, colderplond, bad built, but called her a trader and
a lunatic, which I like that term. He called her
a lunatic, and she is kind of broken with Trump.
And here she is a little more.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
She said today I was called a trader by a
man that I fought for five, no, actually six years
for and I gave him my loyalty for free. I
won my first selection without his endorsement, beating eight men
in a primary. And I've never owed him anything, but

(29:29):
I fought for him, for the policies and for America first.
And he called me a trader for standing with these
women and refusing to take my name off the discharge petition.
Let me tell you what a trader is. A trader
is a is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves.

(29:51):
A patriot is an American that serves the United States
of America and Americans like the women standing behind me.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
That's a pretty definitive. I'm breaking with this guy. What's
that Taylor Swift song? We are never ever ever getting
back together?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:15):
So where is the MAGA movement now? One of the leaders,
one of the queens of MAGA has said, nah, I
don't know this guy anything, and I'm a patriot suggesting
he is not. Yeah, huh, he can't run again. That's
part of it. That's the whole lame duck thing, right.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Well, the only constant has changed, and the MAGA movement
is changing before our eyes.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Wow, that's wild. We got mail bag on the way.
We got a lot more. We've got to get to
the things now known about the guy that shot Trump
in the head and tried to kill him, that we
should have known.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
What about muscle mommies.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
And we're gonna learn about muscle mommies, which I didn't
know were a thing all coming up?

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Stay here, Yeah, I just looked it up.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Larry Summers is married, so he had to explain to
his wife last week. So you were mentoring a woman
and you called Jeffrey Epstein for advice on how to
get her into bed. Okay, that's quite the public revelation.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
That's not a good look. No it's not.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I mean it's not like anyone. Anybody's not heard of
old Jeffrey. Unbelievable. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day.
I love this, sent to us by me. It's a
great article about the BBC and it's incredible bias.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
And the writer points out.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
On the day the uh oh, there's a big revelation,
the day they unveiled the statue of George Orwell outside
of the headquarters, and they point out that Orwell would
recognize better than anyone the ethos that controls his former workplace.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
At any given moment, there is an orthodoxy, a body
of ideas which it is assume that all right thinking
people will accept without.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Question or well if you need them, no kidding.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
There's an incredible battle going on in the transgender madness,
specifically in the American medical community, in which that very
thing was going on in the most insane way. A
body of ideas which it is assumed that all right
thinking people will accept without question. That's one of the
scariest things about humanity. Mailbag, you guys are freaking me out,

(32:31):
writes Brian oh drop us a note mail bag at
Armstrong and Geddy dot com.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
You guys are freaking me out.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
After listening to your segment on the evils of AI
as companions and leading people to suicide and ad comes
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(32:57):
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Speaker 2 (32:58):
Jack.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
You can go on a date at rate takes your
son to scouting activities and can replay the videos of
highlights for him when he gets home. They won't have
to harvest our arrogance. They're just going to replace us,
maybe raise us as pets. Bryan and walla, walla.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, that kind of speaks to those toys I was
talking about earlier in the hour.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
The very thing.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Guys, you decry the danger of AI companionship, then run
an ad for it. Ha ha. I know you don't
control the advertising on all your many platforms, but on
Monday Show you're saying you're coming back with a story
of how many lawsuits a against AI that befriended and
urged suicide as a kid. Then the podcast advertisement comes
on selling an AI companion book.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Hilarious.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Oh boy, Marina from San Diego. Guys, having men, young
men addicted to big text devices seems like a short
sighted goal for the tech industry. Why aren't they seeing
the long game? Eventually young men will be manic depressed,
won't be able to have jobs to pay for these devices,
that will be able to keep a roof over their heads,
and they won't procreate, so no new customers. Also, imagine

(34:03):
a war breaks out and they have to go fight
with no motivation or sweetheart back home. Well, they have
to fight for We're screamed.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Probably probably, yes, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Let's see JT in Livermore. I know in politics, if
you're explaining, you're losing.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
But when it comes to affordability, we really need to explain.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
He says.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
For example, one of the largest price increases over the
last few years been car and homeowners insurance. Both of
those things are set on the state level. Trump really
can't do much about that. Tariffs are no tariffs. Blue
states are the most expensive, driving up the costs. Another
big mover for decades the cost of college, again driven
by the states worst defenders being progressive colleges and states.

(34:45):
While Trump can deregulate energy production drill baby drill, and
thereby bring down some energy costs, he can't keep states
from shutting down the nuclear plants. Can't keep them from
throwing money away on solar panels and wind turbines, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Again, the Blue States did over housing.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Trump is indirectly in control of mortgage race, or is
he able to impact the number of rental properties that
are built or not built. I would add housing regular
regulations et cetera. There's not all that much the poters
can do about affordability.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
And we ought to be letting people know that.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
His point, and he's right, yeah, and that's why he's
going for stuff he can have some effect on, like
coffee and bananas.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Interestingly, interestingly, though, he points out that potuses can drive
up prices with focus spending that drives inflation, like the
multi trillion dollar New Green Deal.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, we do a lot.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
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