November 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of A&G features...
- The camel in the studio, Epstein files & MBS at the White House
- Katie Green's Headlines!
- The vote to release the Epstein files
- Mailbag!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and
Petty and he arms wrong and get it live from
(00:30):
the studio C C. Senior, a dimly lit room deep
with them, the bowels, the Armstrong and Getty Communications Compound
And hey y'all on today, midday Wednesday, I'll crap, the
camel's in the studio. I just walked in. He was
standing over there in the corner in the shadows. He
knows I don't like him at this point, the cammel humpday.
You got a camera. There's a tension here in the room.
(00:53):
It's awful. Yeah. Luckily the contract runs out end of
the year twenty six. We don't have to have the
camel in the studio. We made a camel cigarettes. They
give us a couple thousand dollars a months. I have
to camel in the studio. It's blah blah bah. It's
an endorsement thing. Any who.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Today, today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.
Ironically appropriate tie in Mohammed ben Solmon, the Crown Prince
of Saudi Arabia, Wadeo stranger to camels himself.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
How's that a tire? We have a camel in the
studio and MBS is our general manager. I don't get
the tie. He didn't. He didn't ride to the White
House on a camel. It's freaking Saudi Arabia. They have
camel races there.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It's the official livestock of Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I It's come on, do you think he's ever been
on a camel? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I mean it's like an American leader being on horseback.
It's just it's it's you need that. That's a shot
for your publicity. If you don't like MPs, he has
you bone saw. But you know that's that's their system.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
We must respect it. My brother spent a lot of
time in Saudi Arabia for either of the Gulf Wars,
and he said, yeah, there's herds of camel's rooming across
the road all the time. Just a thang. Why is
MBS our general manager today?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Files exactly, Yes, he's yes, he has all of them
and he's prepared to release them.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
He was at the White House yesterday. He had a
meeting with the President. A number of agreements were struck,
many of them fairly vague. But the friendliness is the key, Jack,
the warming of relations between the US, and that's great,
golf Kingdom, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
How amazed are you that the House voted whatever it was,
four hundred and twenty eight to one to release the
Epstein files after all of this drama for the last
however many months, and Trump trying to stop it from
coming out at all, that it was Feigner twenty eight
to one. Well, two things.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Number one, I was tempted to have every Jepstein be
the general manager. I refused to say the name, but
I will say I will say that I was. I
was tempted to have the Epstein files as a political
phenomenon as the general manager.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, because if you separate yourself from the actual arguments
involved and just look at the transitions and the weird
hypocritical coalitions being formed in the rest of it, it's
a fascinating case.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It is as a political story. You're absolutely right. Actually,
I was watching Mark Halpern's newscast last night and he
started it by saying, this is the most amazing story
I've ever covered in my decades in Washington. DC right
in terms of just how both parties are reacting and
how it's just consumed the entire city. And then you've
(03:43):
got the splits inside parties for variety of reasons, where
and at its heart, there are a lot of folks,
including us, that believe they're chasing phantoms. Yeah, I don't
think there's anything there. I don't think there's anything exciting
that's going to come out of the damn thing. I
think the president's close to right when he calls it
a hoax. Not that Jeffrey Epstein had underage girls, you know,
sex and up powerful people. That obviously was true, But
(04:03):
the fact that there's some giant unveiling of something that's
going to be shocking and interesting. I think that's a hoax.
But you know, it has split the whole Republican Party
and the MAGA wing, and Marjorie Taylor Green's now a
trader to our country according to Trump and and Lattia all.
(04:23):
We're cheering just as loudly as the victims were yesterday
when they got the news that it passed the House
and passed the Senate. I assume you all follow the
news close enough to know that the whole Epstein file
release thing passed the House four and twenty eight to one.
Then the Senate just said, don't it where I bother vote,
and it's through. Right, That's what happened in the Senate.
I mean, they didn't oppose it at all.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And I a week ago, certainly two weeks ago, nobody
thought it would get through the Senate.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Not a chance, right two weeks ago, and now they did.
They didn't even bother to vote. They're so overwhelmingly in
favor of buing and through. Of course, America must know
what's in the Epstein files. So he's gonna go to
the President's desk, he's gonna sign it, and then within
thirty days the Justice Department has to release all this stuff.
And we read what's actually in the bill yesterday. It's
(05:08):
a ton of information that is gonna come out. And
here's the most interesting thing I've come across today, Mark
Alpin writing in his newsletter about what this means, the
impropriety of flinging FBI three to zero two's those are
those documents they have whenever they're doing an investigation or whatever,
(05:29):
national security and law enforcement documents and grand jury material
into the public. Maw is how a republic slides toward
reality television.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yes, especially given the voracious appetite of our media for
innuendo and gossip.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Right, And he says, and I'm afraid this is probably true.
I hadn't thought about this, the president being set that
once one president does it where you release all of
this investigation stuff, future ones are gonna have a lot
of pressure on them too. It's like an executive version
of you give a mouse a code that in the
future they'll release all this stuff and the collateral damage, reputations,
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civil liberties, livelihoods shredded for sport. When the mob gets
a peek at the raw material of justice, sausage making
is going to be something to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Right, say you were in a bitter dispute with I
don't know, another commentator or blogger or you know, the
guy who runs the competing steel.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Company with you, whatever, and you.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Come across the name comes up a couple of times
in the Epstein files. There's nothing there, There's no substance there.
He just went to a couple of cocktail parties and
a fundraiser whatever. But if you are the correct, vicious
sort of person, you will just hammer that information and
dress it up to make it look a little more
jazzy and fancy than it actually is. An attempt to
assassinate the other person's character with maybe a little success,
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maybe a lot of success, and then come the defamation
lawsuits and the rest of it. There are good, sound
like bedrock sound reasons you don't spray out just the
raw material of investigations, And yet we're going to do
that as we chase ghosts, and nothing is going.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
There are going to be no ghosts found.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I mean, there's gonna be some interesting information found, but
there will be no ghosts found. And even if every
single dot and tittle, as they used to say back
in the fancy pants world, every single iota of information
is released, those who are the hardestcore conspiracy theorists will
insist there's more and it will not rest.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
It will never rest. Yeah. I well, we'll play the
clip later. I don't know if you're watching. When they
were having a candlelight vigil with the victims yesterday and
news broke that I forget if it was when it
passed the House or past the Senate, but news broke
on their phones and they're all cheering and crying and
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hugging each other, and I and and I don't know
what they think is about to happen now. MSNBC was
claiming last night that the victims have a list of
lots of powerful people that have not been named yet
that were having sex with them when they were underage, okay,
(08:14):
and they have held back on saying any of those
names because they're scared of the damage that will be
done to them by these powerful people if they try
to stick their neck out and say, I'm not even
going to use a name, I'll use a name if
one of them came forward and said I had sex
with Bill Clinton. I was only sixteen at the time.
They're worried that they'll be crushed, right. Clinton's have crushed
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people in the past who may claims like that, not underage,
but sex claims. They and that they claim that this
will come out now without them having to risk their lives, careers,
et cetera. If that's true, obviously this is huge. I
don't believe that. I don't I don't do Do you
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believe that there's a list there are a bunch of
those victims that have they could they absolutely could testify
that I had sex with this person when I was
under age, and I haven't said anything yet. Do you
think that's true? Uh, it could be.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It could be, but there would be no corroborating evidence.
Probably somebody's presence, you know, in the same zip code
isn't proof of a specific act. It reminds me of
the horrific accusations about Justice Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings.
You could have that time six.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, yeah, that's it's a little different though that there's
just no reason to think Justice Kavanaugh was involved in
gang rapes, where there's lots of reason to believe that
some of these people who were hanging around Jeffrey Epstein
were having sex with chicks that they knew we're seventeen.
I mean that that's not wouldn't be shocking, No, it
(09:52):
wouldn't be shocking.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But I hesitate to say there's lots of information blah
blah blah, like you just said, because this guy was
huge in Manhaes in society, just fundraisers and dinner parties
and cocktail this and that, totally innocent of sexual perversion
that was reserved. And I've hung around people like that
a little bit and decided I do not want to
(10:14):
be around here. There are different levels of how much
you get to see of their lifestyle. If you're just
a casual business acquaintance, they seem to be a respectful
business person. They clearly like to party a little bit,
blah bla blah. Then they figure you're cool and they
invite you to their party or they get together or whatever,
and you start to see, wow, they just don't like
to party. Guys are like sneaking off to do coke,
(10:35):
and who are those chicks?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
That's another level.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Then there's another level you get to where they figure, ah,
he's cool, he's down, and then you start to realize,
oh my god, now I see what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But not everybody gets to that level. So anybody who's
at level one, and that was lots and lots of
luminaries in New York and Florida, you can't say it
wouldn't surprise me at all here that Alan Dershowitz raped
a sixteen year old I mean no.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
No, Bill Clinton in the blue dress and the painting
pointing that was weird. That is going on there. Okay,
we got more to talk about on this later. We
got to start the show officially, I'm Jack Armstrong, he's
Joe Getty on this It is Wednesday, November nineteenth or
twenty twenty five, where Armstrong and getting we approved of
this program.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh, one more note on every JEPS team. Jon Osaro
writes for The Free Press, went through thousands of the emails.
That's all he's been doing since they got released. What
was it last week, and he says there's nothing big
politically speaking, but the depth of moral ugliness in them. Yeah,
he said, I didn't think they could shock me.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
They shocked me. Oh wow, Okay, we'll get to some
of that.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, these these people, these people are sociopaths. Anyway, all right,
let's begin in the show officially according to FCC rules
of regulations for you good non sociopaths.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Here we go at Mark and Trump doesn't give a
fish pump. I grabbed that hand. I don't give a
hell where that hand's been. I grabbed that he So,
remember when Biden met MSB or MSG or which one
is he he's ms BS, NBS, NBS. When Biden met
(12:11):
MBS because he called him a pariah for murdering Koshogi
and everything like that. Now, moron, then he goes and
meets him and fist pump him. So he can't be
said that he shook his hand or whatever. Trumps. Oh,
I shook his hand, I grabs it. I don't care
whether where his hand has been, nice, shook it, nice
shug it.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I don't know what care of that hand has been,
holding the bones or whatever, stroking a cawl.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I mean, not exactly sure what that comment means. If
somebody shakes my hand in a public sending and I
don't care where that hand has been, I'm gonna shake
his hand. What what are you claiming? I'm a relatively
clean person, a decent human being. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Uh So, we got so much news to catch up on.
Joe just had a heck of a tease. I can't
wait to hear that. We got Katie's headlines on the way.
Stay here, we'll get into it more later.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Some of the details in the various some memos that
came out last week, emails, stuff like that. But there
has never been a major story that I understood less
than the Epstein story. All major stories since we've been
in talk radio, I at least got my head around
at some point and understood I do not understand this one.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
There's so many versions of it, which is part of
the confusion. We will discuss. Let's figure out who's reporting what.
It's the lead story with Katie Green Katie.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, speaking of so many versions, we've got three headlines
from the major alphabet networks. NBC.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Congress passes bill to force.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
The release of the Epstein files, CNN, A Washington humiliation
leaves Trump more politically exposed on Epstein than ever before.
And then Fox, who buried this one a little bit.
House dem slammed for sick defense of colleague caught texting
Epstein during twenty nineteen hearing.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, that's it, that's its own interesting story. But well,
Trump is humiliated or in danger if there's anything there,
but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's definitely a slipping of his grip on the MAGA
movement in general.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But the second part of this goes about, you know
how much trouble he's in now that the Epstein files
are coming out. Only if there's something there, and I
got I still believe, I don't. It doesn't make logical
sense that if there was anything there that the Biden
people wouldn't have put it out. That's never mentioned in
this story. The Democrats, when they controlled the House could
have had the same vote that the Republicans had yesterday,
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or Joe Biden could have by executive order released all
this stuff, just like they've been saying Trump could have.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Are these people you're citing in the business of truth
telling or clickbaiting?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I don't think your answer anyway. I don't want to
use up all your time, Katie. Back to Kate.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
A couple other interesting headlines from the Daily Mail. Washington
resident hospitalized with virus never before.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Seen in humans. Yeah, I read that some dude got
bird flu first time ever. This kind of bird flu
is transmitted to a human in Washington. Isn't that where
COVID started anyway? Yeah, I found that troubling.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
From the Wall Street Journal, the NFL's secret obsession with
supersonic flight, talking about yeah, yeah, well, they have dreams
of permanent franchises in Europe, so they're really behind this idea.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And if flying is fast enough, it would be more doable.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Is that what they're is that what you're Yeah, give
you a picture of an NFL team having to make a.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Twelve hour flight to go play a game. That's terrible.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
From the Washington Post, Robots in your bloodstream could deliver
drugs with greater precision.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Cool, robots in my blood that's the The incredible journey
was that the sci fi movie The Substance unk down
the little capsule to go like, do medical procedures.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
From CBS in Thailand, eighty one monkeys and meth found
in car driven by suspected wildlife smugglers.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
That's a party, man. Eighty one monkeys in one car.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'm coming over. Yeah, I got Yeah, I got all
the monkeys. No, I brought eighty one. I brought one
extra in case one of them gets hurt. Yeah, and
I got the meth too. Okay, I'll be there in
five minutes. Those monkeys get into the myth, you are
going to have a problem.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Finally, from the Babylon Bee Bo's introduces new Mariah Carey
canceling headphones for Christmas.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Ah, that's funny. This is an important UH News headline
that we didn't have. Federal judge yesterday blocked Texas from
doing that whole congressional map redrawing thing. So, at least
according to this judge, unless the Supreme Court steps in,
they ain't going to redraw their districts, while California is
which gives the Democrats a definite boost in trying to
(17:02):
win back the House. Yeah, we'll have to see.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I need to know more about that judgment by the
judge doing his judging, whether that ruling will likely apply
to California or not.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
There is so much to talk about. Oh my gosh,
I hope you can stay with us for you missus segment.
Get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and
Getty Switching Gears. Today there was a massive internet outers
that knocked out several major sites, including chat GPT. It
(17:33):
was scary for a couple hours. People had to get
medical advice from a real doctor. You have a hernia
or you're pregnant. Can you come back in an hour?
This is the internet? Seah, wow, got I used GPT
for a medical question of staying. It was fantastic. I
mean the information that gay and then the links and
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everything like that, and how quickly it came up with
it was just misstunning. So I don't know hardly of
a show or journalist or anybody who's been more skeptical
of the whole Epstein thing as a as a story
than us for all kinds of different reasons. I am
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now pretty fascinated with it, both as a political story
and a phenomenon. And it is a phenomenon that I like,
I've said many times, I can't quite get my head around.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Ladies reminds me of that Well, what was that French
fellow who wrote The Madness of Crowds?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, like one hundred years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's one of those situations, say it helps you understand humanity.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
This is the most recent polling. Now, this is on
the heels of I assume you know this that the
House voted four hundred and twenty eight to one to
release the Epstein files. Who is the one no vote?
I don't look that up.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I can't remember his name, but he had an extremely intelligent,
principled objection, which is what I've been saying all along,
that you do not spew raw investigative data out to
the gossip hungry media. It's never happened for a good reason.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Good for you, boomer. This is the modern world where
all everything is a reality show. So four hundred and
twenty eight to one, the Senate didn't even take it up.
They're like, yep, we're on board send it to the
President what And Speaker Johnson was very unhappy with that
because he wanted some amendments in there with some protections
(19:24):
for some of the information that might come out, of course,
which looks I could cover up. And so they'll right exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
So Johnson presides over the put it all out, knowing
that's a terrible idea, thinking, don't worry, the Senate will
do the right thing. And the Senate's like, no, you
don't hand us this flame and bag of turds and
ask us.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
To fix it. You fix it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
We're passing it bam, rubber stamp. So surely unnecessarily frank
language friends.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And then the President's going to sign it today. So
how do Americans feel about this at this point? This
is the latest poll. This is polling was done fifteenth
through the seventeen, so up till two days ago. The
vast majority of Americans think the US government should release
all of its files from the investigation of Epstein eighty
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percent and includes ninety one percent of Democrats, eighty three
percent of Independence and two thirds of Republicans that think
all of the files around Epstein should come out. I mean,
that's pretty strong support. And then that's the reason. I mean,
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because politicians are aware of this. They're either aware of
the internal polling around this, or they're hearing from their
own constituents. And that's why it was a four hundred
and twenty eight to one vote yesterday where none of
them wanted to be on a Well, I don't think
we should side of it. Do you want to know?
Actually what's going to happen now? Sure?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
If the President signs it so, The Epstein Files Transparency
Act would direct the Attorney General to make unclassified documents.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Hello, oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
The conspiracy theories are well fertilized and ready to continue
growing in spite of the release because there will be
some classified stuff anyway, I make unclassified documents for lated
de Epstein and Julene Maxwell available within thirty days of
being signed into law. The bill requires a systematic disclosure
of documents from the Justice Department, including flight logs, internal memos,
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personal communications.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Metadata, immunity agreements, and more.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It also stipulates that the release material be fully searchable
and downloadable. The bill allows for redactions for victim identifying
information and materials depicting child sex abuse. Then an additional
report to Congress outlining what was redacted and why is
required within fifteen days of the publication.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
They have to be specific on why they redacted anything.
And there's going to be unless thumping changes. Tremendous political
pressure from all sides, as you just heard, to do
this quickly and to do you know, you better explain
your reactions. And here is another.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Wrinkle that will leave the most hungry unsatisfied. The bill
allows the Attorney General to withhold the redact as we
said victims names, medical information, child porn information that would
jeopardize an active investigation, and images of death or abuse.
It requires Justice Department to justify its reactions. But the
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Justice Department could say, well, Trump told us to investigate
all these different Democrats, so we can't release this stuff
because it's part of an ongoing investigation.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, I think that was part of his ploy, but
it ain't gonna work. The public opinion is too strong,
and that's why Trump changed directions. He launched that investigation
on what Friday after we got off the air. I
think by Sunday night he was full bore. You all
got to vote for this. He had flipped completely. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, some Republicans have said that the release could damage
the reputations and people who have attended at Stein's parties
but not engaged in any wrongdoing. But Rocana, who is
a grand standing, hypocritical America hating jackass, says, if you
showed up at Epstein's rape Island, I don't have that
much sympathy if your name gets released.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But this is how inuendo works.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Wow, because there's going to be a lot of people
well right, exactly, this is how inuenda works. And I,
you know, as I explained to earlier, having you know,
hung around some fairly wild people at various times in
my life. There are different levels of the inner sanctum,
and not everybody gets to the inner inner sanctum where
you got seventeen year old girls running around. So you
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could easily have come up against this guy and be
completely innocent of anything other than you want to go
to a party where Bill Gates is, and he famously
had dinner parties with like Katie Curic and Martha Stuart,
and you know women like that as well. If I'm
at a dinner party with Martha Stuart, that's not akin
to me raping a seventeen year old anyway, the island
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is deaf a different level of I'm partying with Jeffrey Epstein,
but even that that's still innuendo unless there's some sort
of evidence.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
The when makes a difference, though. The reason Larry Summers
is in so much trouble and had to back down
from everything is how many people are we gonna find
out we're interacting with Jeffrey Epstein flying on his plane
going to his island after.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
He'd already been caught and convicted right the first time?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
What, Yeah, that's what's amazing. We read a piece from
National Review yesterday Rich Lowry had written, and I came
across another one from a journalist I don't remember right now,
saying basically the same thing. How gross this is for
all of us to find out that at the highest
level of rich, powerful, you just overlook all kinds of
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gross things that you've heard about or seen or they've
been convicted of to be in that group, and tons
of people where you're Larry Summers, Bill Clinton, whoever the
hell it is, business people.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You know, Yeah, he's got you know, he got convicted
of something whatever. I'm still gonna be at his party
and fly at his plane and do these things and
go to the fundraiser because we're all in this tiny
little group where we all look out for each other
and nobody will ever find out about it because we
keep this stuff secret. That is absolutely true. And I
referred to the joonas Sarah piece from the Free Press,
which we'll get to next hour. He spent an enormous
(25:22):
amount of time plowing through all these emails and that
have been really so far. And his takeaway of the
very short version is not that there was you know,
specific nefarious uh uh, you know, plotting going on or
anything like that, but the lack of giving a damn
by these people about what this guy was and what
he had done, as you just described it pretty well.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Uh, they didn't care.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Because it's you gotta be in the in crowd, and
he was. He was like one of the biggest deals
ever in the in crowd.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I don't I don't like cynicism. I'm a big, big
fan of skepticism, okay, and I don't want to turn
people cynical about their country and the law and the
rest of it.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
But here's a great example of what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
This happens to be a Democrat, but in twenty nineteen,
Kamala Harris said this about so called dark money, you're
dark money fundraisers who don't disclose their donors and then
hand out money. George Soros and that company, and they
exist on the right. She said this, It does not
represent justice in America when dark money is fueling elections,
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and when the few who have the greatest amount of
wealth behind a veil, without even presenting themselves or their names,
manipulate and fuel the election process. Then during her campaign,
she took in millions and millions of dollars of dark
money to her packs, mountainous amounts of money. These people
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have no principles. Their only principles are power, the accumulation
of power, and money to a large extent.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, so again we read that piece yesterday and Rich
Lowry National Review has been in politics his whole life,
in DC and around there, and he said, friends and
family are always, you know, cynical the way Joe just
described it, and he has to talk them down saying, no,
it's not as bad as you've heard. And that's what
Mark Alprin said. Reporter Mark Helprin said on his video
(27:26):
cast last night. He said, my whole life I've been
telling people it's not as bad as you think. Everybody's
not in it for themselves. They're not all corrupt blah
blah blah. And he said in this story, he said,
the more I look into it makes it look like
I was wrong all these years that at the highest
levels they run in certain circles and look out for
each other and ignore all kinds of wrongdoing to be
(27:48):
part of some sort of super powerful rich guy club. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, my final pronouncement on that topic is our very
system of government was designed because the founding pops knew
that you had to presume guilt, you know, guilty until
proven innocent if you are trusted with power in government,
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Speaker 1 (29:25):
There's no safe like simply Safe. I don't want to
use up any of your email time. But later I'll
tell a story I heard yesterday about these movie screening
parties that Epstein would throw in New York, that everybody
would go to the rich and powerful, the big movies
that come out, they see them like two months before
we do all together in a room with a fabulous buffet,
(29:46):
hanging out with each other, with Jeffrey Epstein walking around,
because he's the guy that put it all together, right
for instance, isn't that something? And you got to be
able to tell your friends. I've already seen Titanic. I
saw it two months ago with uh I was there
with the Leonardo was there, and Bill Clinton was there,
and that's what his life was, absolutely wonderful. The Bloga
Caviar was to die for. And Epstein was the guy
(30:09):
that put that kind of stuff together. Yeah, he was
one of the world's greatest networkers and a perv. Yeah
we got email on the way and a bunch of
other stuff. Stay here. Yeah, Larry Summers lost another job,
this time with Open AI. The details of what he
was trying to do with the hot young economist and
how that's all known and his wife and everything like that.
(30:31):
Maybe we'll get to that later in the show.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Oh, here's your freedom loving quote? What who's your freedom
loving quote of the day?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I like this one. It's from John Lennon.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yes, imagine as an insipid song, but he was an
intriguing guy, very bright. When I was five years old,
my mother always told me that happiness was the key
to life. When I went to school, they asked me
what I wanted to be when I grew up. I
wrote down happy. They told me I didn't understand the assignment,
and I told them they didn't understand life.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Wow, that is good. That really is as good.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
How old was he well, he says he's a young
five years old. It's no doubt an apocryphal tale, but
it's an intriguing thought.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
By the way, I watched enough of that Beatles documentary.
I was watching someone the last night.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Paul is like ninety percent of the Beatles. I disagree,
but I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying.
He's definitely a very very large percent of what elevated
them from a rock and roll band. But anyway, another
(31:35):
will poor people to death with that topic. Maybe on
a podcast or something, sure mail bag. Although he kids,
I always I'm frustrated. I watched YouTube videos about music
all the time, and I'm a frustrated people who obviously
don't have the rights to actually play the music they're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
To illustrate.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Their point is somewhat unsatisfying. In the world of music
hasn't figured out podcasts. The whole playing a song on
the radio thing is old haad. Everybody knows what the
contracts are with the rights are, what the fees are,
blah blah blah. But podcasting is a brave new world.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Nobody's figured it out yet.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Thet's why we can't really use songs in podcasts anyway.
Moving along, this is tension Jack from Jeff. Driving to work,
a gentleman had to swerve to avoid a box that
fell out.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Of a truck in front of them.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Cop sees him do it, it pulls them over for reckless driving. Fortunately,
another officer and seeing the cart and in the road
and said, no, you shouldn't give the guy a ticket.
So the cop takes the box. He looks in the
box contains all these large upholstery tax and I'm sorry, sir.
The trooper tails the driver. I'm still gonna have to
write you a ticket. Amazed, and driver asked for what.
Trooper replies, tax evasion? Oh wow, I'm not sure the
(32:45):
juice was worth the extended squeeze there.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That was a long way to drive Dad, we drove
this all this.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Way for this yeah yeah, and now looking back at
it and printed it's better over along. Marina writes, guy's
guest on Fox had the best line for a T shirt.
According to Democrats, men make the best women. That's good.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's the point I've made many times.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You know, the transgender thing has taught us this, ladies,
is all these transgender guys one pageants. Men are better
at everything, including being women. You have to accept.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
It that women would be standing up against this, but
so far not.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
And also reasons we've discussed. Yeah, a nice note from
we'll just say Mac, who sends us historical notes semi regularly.
People should be reminded it was on today's very date,
in eighteen sixty three, that President Lincoln, at the dedication
of the National Cemetery, delivered the Gettysburg Address, widely considered
to be one of the finest and most noble speeches
(33:42):
in American history.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It's Mike, Okay, thanks Mike. And what should be remembered
more than anything out of that is it's incredibly short.
What is it like two hundred words or something like that.
You can have a speech that people remember and recite forever.
That's a couple hundred words long. Length is not the key,
but for some reason it was mocked by the media
(34:06):
at the time. Part people still think length is the
key to make an impact. You got to talk for
like forty five minutes or an hour, an hour and
a half.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No, no, no, no no. I was going to memorize
the Gettysburg address. I decided on that one day and
put about twenty minutes into it and said I would
come back to it the next day.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I never did. Nice effort.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, thank you, Ah twenty minutes, huh. I'll just say
and that may be an exaggeration, Michael, I'll just say
first initial Jay who I hesitate to platform, But it's
a good example of what the world is like. Looking
forward to tomorrow's show to hear the utter bullless and
coping about Epstein to make the calculated decision and never
(34:46):
mentioned Massy saying Epstein has ties to the CIA and Masad.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You're both cowards and frauds.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And I hope you know to the core of your
being it was under your watch, your generation, your libertarian
Republican garbage, that the country was destroyed. My generation is
taking down the swamp. My generation will regain American sovereignty
from Israel and Zinus control. My generation will fight back
against demographic replacement. My generation will fight the culture war
against feminism and LGBT.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Please try and not f it up more than you
already have.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Sincerely, jay Ah, the angry young man and at the
root of it is the Jews. Good to see that
back for the twenty seventh time, and the hyper confidence
of the angry young man. That's original too, because you've
figured out everything.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Congratulations, Well, I know people like that. Men and women
who have that exactly that attitude could have written that email.
I just the thing I wonder is what percentage that is?
I wish I had a better idea of what percentage
of people are that. I assume he's unhappy with Trump
at this point. And finally, how much time do we have?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Michael about forty seconds? Forty seconds? JT and Livermore rights
contral to Jack's claim that MTG is about as MAGA
as anyone in America. You can't be MAGO without being
pro Trump. Trump and MAGA are synonymous, That's what Trump says. Second,
MTG went off to deep end years ago. Her break
with Trump is not actually new in particular, As far
back as twenty twenty one, she started spouting her anti
(36:07):
Semitic bs about Jewish lasers starting California wildfires, the Rothschild's genocide, genocide,
and Gaza, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
You say Trump is maga, we will find out. Trump
says it is a whole bunch of people out there
saying no, he's not. We're maga, like that guy earlier
with his email. We'll see how big that crowd is,
how much power they have over the Republican Party. We
have so much to talk about it. I hope you
can stay with us if you miss a second to
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Today, today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.
Ironically appropriate tie in Mohammed ben Solmon, the Crown Prince
of Saudi Arabia, Wadeo stranger to camels himself.
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How's that a tire? We have a camel in the
studio and MBS is our general manager. I don't get
the tie. He didn't. He didn't ride to the White
House on a camel. It's freaking Saudi Arabia. They have
camel races there.
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It's the official livestock of Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I It's come on, do you think he's ever been
on a camel? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I mean it's like an American leader being on horseback.
It's just it's it's you need that. That's a shot
for your publicity. If you don't like MPs, he has
you bone saw. But you know that's that's their system.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
We must respect it. My brother spent a lot of
time in Saudi Arabia for either of the Gulf Wars,
and he said, yeah, there's herds of camel's rooming across
the road all the time. Just a thang. Why is
MBS our general manager today?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Files exactly, Yes, he's yes, he has all of them
and he's prepared to release them.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
He was at the White House yesterday. He had a
meeting with the President. A number of agreements were struck,
many of them fairly vague. But the friendliness is the key, Jack,
the warming of relations between the US, and that's great,
golf Kingdom, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
How amazed are you that the House voted whatever it was,
four hundred and twenty eight to one to release the
Epstein files after all of this drama for the last
however many months, and Trump trying to stop it from
coming out at all, that it was Feigner twenty eight
to one. Well, two things.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Number one, I was tempted to have every Jepstein be
the general manager. I refused to say the name, but
I will say I will say that I was. I
was tempted to have the Epstein files as a political
phenomenon as the general manager.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, because if you separate yourself from the actual arguments
involved and just look at the transitions and the weird
hypocritical coalitions being formed in the rest of it, it's
a fascinating case.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It is as a political story. You're absolutely right. Actually,
I was watching Mark Halpern's newscast last night and he
started it by saying, this is the most amazing story
I've ever covered in my decades in Washington. DC right
in terms of just how both parties are reacting and
how it's just consumed the entire city. And then you've
(03:43):
got the splits inside parties for variety of reasons, where
and at its heart, there are a lot of folks,
including us, that believe they're chasing phantoms. Yeah, I don't
think there's anything there. I don't think there's anything exciting
that's going to come out of the damn thing. I
think the president's close to right when he calls it
a hoax. Not that Jeffrey Epstein had underage girls, you know,
sex and up powerful people. That obviously was true, But
(04:03):
the fact that there's some giant unveiling of something that's
going to be shocking and interesting. I think that's a hoax.
But you know, it has split the whole Republican Party
and the MAGA wing, and Marjorie Taylor Green's now a
trader to our country according to Trump and and Lattia all.
(04:23):
We're cheering just as loudly as the victims were yesterday
when they got the news that it passed the House
and passed the Senate. I assume you all follow the
news close enough to know that the whole Epstein file
release thing passed the House four and twenty eight to one.
Then the Senate just said, don't it where I bother vote,
and it's through. Right, That's what happened in the Senate.
I mean, they didn't oppose it at all.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And I a week ago, certainly two weeks ago, nobody
thought it would get through the Senate.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Not a chance, right two weeks ago, and now they did.
They didn't even bother to vote. They're so overwhelmingly in
favor of buing and through. Of course, America must know
what's in the Epstein files. So he's gonna go to
the President's desk, he's gonna sign it, and then within
thirty days the Justice Department has to release all this stuff.
And we read what's actually in the bill yesterday. It's
(05:08):
a ton of information that is gonna come out. And
here's the most interesting thing I've come across today, Mark
Alpin writing in his newsletter about what this means, the
impropriety of flinging FBI three to zero two's those are
those documents they have whenever they're doing an investigation or whatever,
(05:29):
national security and law enforcement documents and grand jury material
into the public. Maw is how a republic slides toward
reality television.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yes, especially given the voracious appetite of our media for
innuendo and gossip.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Right, And he says, and I'm afraid this is probably true.
I hadn't thought about this, the president being set that
once one president does it where you release all of
this investigation stuff, future ones are gonna have a lot
of pressure on them too. It's like an executive version
of you give a mouse a code that in the
future they'll release all this stuff and the collateral damage, reputations,
(06:06):
civil liberties, livelihoods shredded for sport. When the mob gets
a peek at the raw material of justice, sausage making
is going to be something to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Right, say you were in a bitter dispute with I
don't know, another commentator or blogger or you know, the
guy who runs the competing steel.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Company with you, whatever, and you.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Come across the name comes up a couple of times
in the Epstein files. There's nothing there, There's no substance there.
He just went to a couple of cocktail parties and
a fundraiser whatever. But if you are the correct, vicious
sort of person, you will just hammer that information and
dress it up to make it look a little more
jazzy and fancy than it actually is. An attempt to
assassinate the other person's character with maybe a little success,
(06:49):
maybe a lot of success, and then come the defamation
lawsuits and the rest of it. There are good, sound
like bedrock sound reasons you don't spray out just the
raw material of investigations, And yet we're going to do
that as we chase ghosts, and nothing is going.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
There are going to be no ghosts found.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I mean, there's gonna be some interesting information found, but
there will be no ghosts found. And even if every
single dot and tittle, as they used to say back
in the fancy pants world, every single iota of information
is released, those who are the hardestcore conspiracy theorists will
insist there's more and it will not rest.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
It will never rest. Yeah. I well, we'll play the
clip later. I don't know if you're watching. When they
were having a candlelight vigil with the victims yesterday and
news broke that I forget if it was when it
passed the House or past the Senate, but news broke
on their phones and they're all cheering and crying and
(07:53):
hugging each other, and I and and I don't know
what they think is about to happen now. MSNBC was
claiming last night that the victims have a list of
lots of powerful people that have not been named yet
that were having sex with them when they were underage, okay,
(08:14):
and they have held back on saying any of those
names because they're scared of the damage that will be
done to them by these powerful people if they try
to stick their neck out and say, I'm not even
going to use a name, I'll use a name if
one of them came forward and said I had sex
with Bill Clinton. I was only sixteen at the time.
They're worried that they'll be crushed, right. Clinton's have crushed
(08:36):
people in the past who may claims like that, not underage,
but sex claims. They and that they claim that this
will come out now without them having to risk their lives, careers,
et cetera. If that's true, obviously this is huge. I
don't believe that. I don't I don't do Do you
(08:57):
believe that there's a list there are a bunch of
those victims that have they could they absolutely could testify
that I had sex with this person when I was
under age, and I haven't said anything yet. Do you
think that's true? Uh, it could be.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It could be, but there would be no corroborating evidence.
Probably somebody's presence, you know, in the same zip code
isn't proof of a specific act. It reminds me of
the horrific accusations about Justice Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings.
You could have that time six.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, yeah, that's it's a little different though that there's
just no reason to think Justice Kavanaugh was involved in
gang rapes, where there's lots of reason to believe that
some of these people who were hanging around Jeffrey Epstein
were having sex with chicks that they knew we're seventeen.
I mean that that's not wouldn't be shocking, No, it
(09:52):
wouldn't be shocking.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But I hesitate to say there's lots of information blah
blah blah, like you just said, because this guy was
huge in Manhaes in society, just fundraisers and dinner parties
and cocktail this and that, totally innocent of sexual perversion
that was reserved. And I've hung around people like that
a little bit and decided I do not want to
(10:14):
be around here. There are different levels of how much
you get to see of their lifestyle. If you're just
a casual business acquaintance, they seem to be a respectful
business person. They clearly like to party a little bit,
blah bla blah. Then they figure you're cool and they
invite you to their party or they get together or whatever,
and you start to see, wow, they just don't like
to party. Guys are like sneaking off to do coke,
(10:35):
and who are those chicks?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
That's another level.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Then there's another level you get to where they figure, ah,
he's cool, he's down, and then you start to realize,
oh my god, now I see what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But not everybody gets to that level. So anybody who's
at level one, and that was lots and lots of
luminaries in New York and Florida, you can't say it
wouldn't surprise me at all here that Alan Dershowitz raped
a sixteen year old I mean no.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
No, Bill Clinton in the blue dress and the painting
pointing that was weird. That is going on there. Okay,
we got more to talk about on this later. We
got to start the show officially, I'm Jack Armstrong, he's
Joe Getty on this It is Wednesday, November nineteenth or
twenty twenty five, where Armstrong and getting we approved of
this program.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh, one more note on every JEPS team. Jon Osaro
writes for The Free Press, went through thousands of the emails.
That's all he's been doing since they got released. What
was it last week, and he says there's nothing big
politically speaking, but the depth of moral ugliness in them. Yeah,
he said, I didn't think they could shock me.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
They shocked me. Oh wow, Okay, we'll get to some
of that.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, these these people, these people are sociopaths. Anyway, all right,
let's begin in the show officially according to FCC rules
of regulations for you good non sociopaths.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Here we go at Mark and Trump doesn't give a
fish pump. I grabbed that hand. I don't give a
hell where that hand's been. I grabbed that he So,
remember when Biden met MSB or MSG or which one
is he he's ms BS, NBS, NBS. When Biden met
(12:11):
MBS because he called him a pariah for murdering Koshogi
and everything like that. Now, moron, then he goes and
meets him and fist pump him. So he can't be
said that he shook his hand or whatever. Trumps. Oh,
I shook his hand, I grabs it. I don't care
whether where his hand has been, nice, shook it, nice
shug it.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I don't know what care of that hand has been,
holding the bones or whatever, stroking a cawl.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I mean, not exactly sure what that comment means. If
somebody shakes my hand in a public sending and I
don't care where that hand has been, I'm gonna shake
his hand. What what are you claiming? I'm a relatively
clean person, a decent human being. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Uh So, we got so much news to catch up on.
Joe just had a heck of a tease. I can't
wait to hear that. We got Katie's headlines on the way.
Stay here, we'll get into it more later.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Some of the details in the various some memos that
came out last week, emails, stuff like that. But there
has never been a major story that I understood less
than the Epstein story. All major stories since we've been
in talk radio, I at least got my head around
at some point and understood I do not understand this one.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
There's so many versions of it, which is part of
the confusion. We will discuss. Let's figure out who's reporting what.
It's the lead story with Katie Green Katie.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, speaking of so many versions, we've got three headlines
from the major alphabet networks. NBC.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Congress passes bill to force.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
The release of the Epstein files, CNN, A Washington humiliation
leaves Trump more politically exposed on Epstein than ever before.
And then Fox, who buried this one a little bit.
House dem slammed for sick defense of colleague caught texting
Epstein during twenty nineteen hearing.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, that's it, that's its own interesting story. But well,
Trump is humiliated or in danger if there's anything there,
but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's definitely a slipping of his grip on the MAGA
movement in general.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But the second part of this goes about, you know
how much trouble he's in now that the Epstein files
are coming out. Only if there's something there, and I
got I still believe, I don't. It doesn't make logical
sense that if there was anything there that the Biden
people wouldn't have put it out. That's never mentioned in
this story. The Democrats, when they controlled the House could
have had the same vote that the Republicans had yesterday,
(14:37):
or Joe Biden could have by executive order released all
this stuff, just like they've been saying Trump could have.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Are these people you're citing in the business of truth
telling or clickbaiting?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I don't think your answer anyway. I don't want to
use up all your time, Katie. Back to Kate.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
A couple other interesting headlines from the Daily Mail. Washington
resident hospitalized with virus never before.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Seen in humans. Yeah, I read that some dude got
bird flu first time ever. This kind of bird flu
is transmitted to a human in Washington. Isn't that where
COVID started anyway? Yeah, I found that troubling.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
From the Wall Street Journal, the NFL's secret obsession with
supersonic flight, talking about yeah, yeah, well, they have dreams
of permanent franchises in Europe, so they're really behind this idea.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And if flying is fast enough, it would be more doable.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Is that what they're is that what you're Yeah, give
you a picture of an NFL team having to make a.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Twelve hour flight to go play a game. That's terrible.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
From the Washington Post, Robots in your bloodstream could deliver
drugs with greater precision.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Cool, robots in my blood that's the The incredible journey
was that the sci fi movie The Substance unk down
the little capsule to go like, do medical procedures.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
From CBS in Thailand, eighty one monkeys and meth found
in car driven by suspected wildlife smugglers.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
That's a party, man. Eighty one monkeys in one car.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'm coming over. Yeah, I got Yeah, I got all
the monkeys. No, I brought eighty one. I brought one
extra in case one of them gets hurt. Yeah, and
I got the meth too. Okay, I'll be there in
five minutes. Those monkeys get into the myth, you are
going to have a problem.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Finally, from the Babylon Bee Bo's introduces new Mariah Carey
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Speaker 1 (16:41):
Ah, that's funny. This is an important UH News headline
that we didn't have. Federal judge yesterday blocked Texas from
doing that whole congressional map redrawing thing. So, at least
according to this judge, unless the Supreme Court steps in,
they ain't going to redraw their districts, while California is
which gives the Democrats a definite boost in trying to
(17:02):
win back the House. Yeah, we'll have to see.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I need to know more about that judgment by the
judge doing his judging, whether that ruling will likely apply
to California or not.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
There is so much to talk about. Oh my gosh,
I hope you can stay with us for you missus segment.
Get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and
Getty Switching Gears. Today there was a massive internet outers
that knocked out several major sites, including chat GPT. It
(17:33):
was scary for a couple hours. People had to get
medical advice from a real doctor. You have a hernia
or you're pregnant. Can you come back in an hour?
This is the internet? Seah, wow, got I used GPT
for a medical question of staying. It was fantastic. I
mean the information that gay and then the links and
(17:55):
everything like that, and how quickly it came up with
it was just misstunning. So I don't know hardly of
a show or journalist or anybody who's been more skeptical
of the whole Epstein thing as a as a story
than us for all kinds of different reasons. I am
(18:17):
now pretty fascinated with it, both as a political story
and a phenomenon. And it is a phenomenon that I like,
I've said many times, I can't quite get my head around.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Ladies reminds me of that Well, what was that French
fellow who wrote The Madness of Crowds?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, like one hundred years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's one of those situations, say it helps you understand humanity.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
This is the most recent polling. Now, this is on
the heels of I assume you know this that the
House voted four hundred and twenty eight to one to
release the Epstein files. Who is the one no vote?
I don't look that up.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I can't remember his name, but he had an extremely intelligent,
principled objection, which is what I've been saying all along,
that you do not spew raw investigative data out to
the gossip hungry media. It's never happened for a good reason.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Good for you, boomer. This is the modern world where
all everything is a reality show. So four hundred and
twenty eight to one, the Senate didn't even take it up.
They're like, yep, we're on board send it to the
President what And Speaker Johnson was very unhappy with that
because he wanted some amendments in there with some protections
(19:24):
for some of the information that might come out, of course,
which looks I could cover up. And so they'll right exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
So Johnson presides over the put it all out, knowing
that's a terrible idea, thinking, don't worry, the Senate will
do the right thing. And the Senate's like, no, you
don't hand us this flame and bag of turds and
ask us.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
To fix it. You fix it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
We're passing it bam, rubber stamp. So surely unnecessarily frank
language friends.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And then the President's going to sign it today. So
how do Americans feel about this at this point? This
is the latest poll. This is polling was done fifteenth
through the seventeen, so up till two days ago. The
vast majority of Americans think the US government should release
all of its files from the investigation of Epstein eighty
(20:09):
percent and includes ninety one percent of Democrats, eighty three
percent of Independence and two thirds of Republicans that think
all of the files around Epstein should come out. I mean,
that's pretty strong support. And then that's the reason. I mean,
(20:32):
because politicians are aware of this. They're either aware of
the internal polling around this, or they're hearing from their
own constituents. And that's why it was a four hundred
and twenty eight to one vote yesterday where none of
them wanted to be on a Well, I don't think
we should side of it. Do you want to know?
Actually what's going to happen now? Sure?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
If the President signs it so, The Epstein Files Transparency
Act would direct the Attorney General to make unclassified documents.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Hello, oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
The conspiracy theories are well fertilized and ready to continue
growing in spite of the release because there will be
some classified stuff anyway, I make unclassified documents for lated
de Epstein and Julene Maxwell available within thirty days of
being signed into law. The bill requires a systematic disclosure
of documents from the Justice Department, including flight logs, internal memos,
(21:21):
personal communications.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Metadata, immunity agreements, and more.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It also stipulates that the release material be fully searchable
and downloadable. The bill allows for redactions for victim identifying
information and materials depicting child sex abuse. Then an additional
report to Congress outlining what was redacted and why is
required within fifteen days of the publication.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
They have to be specific on why they redacted anything.
And there's going to be unless thumping changes. Tremendous political
pressure from all sides, as you just heard, to do
this quickly and to do you know, you better explain
your reactions. And here is another.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Wrinkle that will leave the most hungry unsatisfied. The bill
allows the Attorney General to withhold the redact as we
said victims names, medical information, child porn information that would
jeopardize an active investigation, and images of death or abuse.
It requires Justice Department to justify its reactions. But the
(22:22):
Justice Department could say, well, Trump told us to investigate
all these different Democrats, so we can't release this stuff
because it's part of an ongoing investigation.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, I think that was part of his ploy, but
it ain't gonna work. The public opinion is too strong,
and that's why Trump changed directions. He launched that investigation
on what Friday after we got off the air. I
think by Sunday night he was full bore. You all
got to vote for this. He had flipped completely. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, some Republicans have said that the release could damage
the reputations and people who have attended at Stein's parties
but not engaged in any wrongdoing. But Rocana, who is
a grand standing, hypocritical America hating jackass, says, if you
showed up at Epstein's rape Island, I don't have that
much sympathy if your name gets released.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But this is how inuendo works.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Wow, because there's going to be a lot of people
well right, exactly, this is how inuenda works. And I,
you know, as I explained to earlier, having you know,
hung around some fairly wild people at various times in
my life. There are different levels of the inner sanctum,
and not everybody gets to the inner inner sanctum where
you got seventeen year old girls running around. So you
(23:37):
could easily have come up against this guy and be
completely innocent of anything other than you want to go
to a party where Bill Gates is, and he famously
had dinner parties with like Katie Curic and Martha Stuart,
and you know women like that as well. If I'm
at a dinner party with Martha Stuart, that's not akin
to me raping a seventeen year old anyway, the island
(23:59):
is deaf a different level of I'm partying with Jeffrey Epstein,
but even that that's still innuendo unless there's some sort
of evidence.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
The when makes a difference, though. The reason Larry Summers
is in so much trouble and had to back down
from everything is how many people are we gonna find
out we're interacting with Jeffrey Epstein flying on his plane
going to his island after.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
He'd already been caught and convicted right the first time?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
What, Yeah, that's what's amazing. We read a piece from
National Review yesterday Rich Lowry had written, and I came
across another one from a journalist I don't remember right now,
saying basically the same thing. How gross this is for
all of us to find out that at the highest
level of rich, powerful, you just overlook all kinds of
(24:48):
gross things that you've heard about or seen or they've
been convicted of to be in that group, and tons
of people where you're Larry Summers, Bill Clinton, whoever the
hell it is, business people.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You know, Yeah, he's got you know, he got convicted
of something whatever. I'm still gonna be at his party
and fly at his plane and do these things and
go to the fundraiser because we're all in this tiny
little group where we all look out for each other
and nobody will ever find out about it because we
keep this stuff secret. That is absolutely true. And I
referred to the joonas Sarah piece from the Free Press,
which we'll get to next hour. He spent an enormous
(25:22):
amount of time plowing through all these emails and that
have been really so far. And his takeaway of the
very short version is not that there was you know,
specific nefarious uh uh, you know, plotting going on or
anything like that, but the lack of giving a damn
by these people about what this guy was and what
he had done, as you just described it pretty well.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Uh, they didn't care.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Because it's you gotta be in the in crowd, and
he was. He was like one of the biggest deals
ever in the in crowd.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I don't I don't like cynicism. I'm a big, big
fan of skepticism, okay, and I don't want to turn
people cynical about their country and the law and the
rest of it.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
But here's a great example of what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
This happens to be a Democrat, but in twenty nineteen,
Kamala Harris said this about so called dark money, you're
dark money fundraisers who don't disclose their donors and then
hand out money. George Soros and that company, and they
exist on the right. She said this, It does not
represent justice in America when dark money is fueling elections,
(26:30):
and when the few who have the greatest amount of
wealth behind a veil, without even presenting themselves or their names,
manipulate and fuel the election process. Then during her campaign,
she took in millions and millions of dollars of dark
money to her packs, mountainous amounts of money. These people
(26:54):
have no principles. Their only principles are power, the accumulation
of power, and money to a large extent.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, so again we read that piece yesterday and Rich
Lowry National Review has been in politics his whole life,
in DC and around there, and he said, friends and
family are always, you know, cynical the way Joe just
described it, and he has to talk them down saying, no,
it's not as bad as you've heard. And that's what
Mark Alprin said. Reporter Mark Helprin said on his video
(27:26):
cast last night. He said, my whole life I've been
telling people it's not as bad as you think. Everybody's
not in it for themselves. They're not all corrupt blah
blah blah. And he said in this story, he said,
the more I look into it makes it look like
I was wrong all these years that at the highest
levels they run in certain circles and look out for
each other and ignore all kinds of wrongdoing to be
(27:48):
part of some sort of super powerful rich guy club. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, my final pronouncement on that topic is our very
system of government was designed because the founding pops knew
that you had to presume guilt, you know, guilty until
proven innocent if you are trusted with power in government,
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There's no safe like simply Safe. I don't want to
use up any of your email time. But later I'll
tell a story I heard yesterday about these movie screening
parties that Epstein would throw in New York, that everybody
would go to the rich and powerful, the big movies
that come out, they see them like two months before
we do all together in a room with a fabulous buffet,
(29:46):
hanging out with each other, with Jeffrey Epstein walking around,
because he's the guy that put it all together, right
for instance, isn't that something? And you got to be
able to tell your friends. I've already seen Titanic. I
saw it two months ago with uh I was there
with the Leonardo was there, and Bill Clinton was there,
and that's what his life was, absolutely wonderful. The Bloga
Caviar was to die for. And Epstein was the guy
(30:09):
that put that kind of stuff together. Yeah, he was
one of the world's greatest networkers and a perv. Yeah
we got email on the way and a bunch of
other stuff. Stay here. Yeah, Larry Summers lost another job,
this time with Open AI. The details of what he
was trying to do with the hot young economist and
how that's all known and his wife and everything like that.
(30:31):
Maybe we'll get to that later in the show.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Oh, here's your freedom loving quote? What who's your freedom
loving quote of the day?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I like this one. It's from John Lennon.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yes, imagine as an insipid song, but he was an
intriguing guy, very bright. When I was five years old,
my mother always told me that happiness was the key
to life. When I went to school, they asked me
what I wanted to be when I grew up. I
wrote down happy. They told me I didn't understand the assignment,
and I told them they didn't understand life.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Wow, that is good. That really is as good.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
How old was he well, he says he's a young
five years old. It's no doubt an apocryphal tale, but
it's an intriguing thought.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
By the way, I watched enough of that Beatles documentary.
I was watching someone the last night.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Paul is like ninety percent of the Beatles. I disagree,
but I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying.
He's definitely a very very large percent of what elevated
them from a rock and roll band. But anyway, another
(31:35):
will poor people to death with that topic. Maybe on
a podcast or something, sure mail bag. Although he kids,
I always I'm frustrated. I watched YouTube videos about music
all the time, and I'm a frustrated people who obviously
don't have the rights to actually play the music they're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
To illustrate.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Their point is somewhat unsatisfying. In the world of music
hasn't figured out podcasts. The whole playing a song on
the radio thing is old haad. Everybody knows what the
contracts are with the rights are, what the fees are,
blah blah blah. But podcasting is a brave new world.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Nobody's figured it out yet.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Thet's why we can't really use songs in podcasts anyway.
Moving along, this is tension Jack from Jeff. Driving to work,
a gentleman had to swerve to avoid a box that
fell out.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Of a truck in front of them.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Cop sees him do it, it pulls them over for reckless driving. Fortunately,
another officer and seeing the cart and in the road
and said, no, you shouldn't give the guy a ticket.
So the cop takes the box. He looks in the
box contains all these large upholstery tax and I'm sorry, sir.
The trooper tails the driver. I'm still gonna have to
write you a ticket. Amazed, and driver asked for what.
Trooper replies, tax evasion? Oh wow, I'm not sure the
(32:45):
juice was worth the extended squeeze there.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That was a long way to drive Dad, we drove
this all this.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Way for this yeah yeah, and now looking back at
it and printed it's better over along. Marina writes, guy's
guest on Fox had the best line for a T shirt.
According to Democrats, men make the best women. That's good.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's the point I've made many times.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You know, the transgender thing has taught us this, ladies,
is all these transgender guys one pageants. Men are better
at everything, including being women. You have to accept.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
It that women would be standing up against this, but
so far not.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
And also reasons we've discussed. Yeah, a nice note from
we'll just say Mac, who sends us historical notes semi regularly.
People should be reminded it was on today's very date,
in eighteen sixty three, that President Lincoln, at the dedication
of the National Cemetery, delivered the Gettysburg Address, widely considered
to be one of the finest and most noble speeches
(33:42):
in American history.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It's Mike, Okay, thanks Mike. And what should be remembered
more than anything out of that is it's incredibly short.
What is it like two hundred words or something like that.
You can have a speech that people remember and recite forever.
That's a couple hundred words long. Length is not the key,
but for some reason it was mocked by the media
(34:06):
at the time. Part people still think length is the
key to make an impact. You got to talk for
like forty five minutes or an hour, an hour and
a half.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No, no, no, no no. I was going to memorize
the Gettysburg address. I decided on that one day and
put about twenty minutes into it and said I would
come back to it the next day.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I never did. Nice effort.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, thank you, Ah twenty minutes, huh. I'll just say
and that may be an exaggeration, Michael, I'll just say
first initial Jay who I hesitate to platform, But it's
a good example of what the world is like. Looking
forward to tomorrow's show to hear the utter bullless and
coping about Epstein to make the calculated decision and never
(34:46):
mentioned Massy saying Epstein has ties to the CIA and Masad.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You're both cowards and frauds.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And I hope you know to the core of your
being it was under your watch, your generation, your libertarian
Republican garbage, that the country was destroyed. My generation is
taking down the swamp. My generation will regain American sovereignty
from Israel and Zinus control. My generation will fight back
against demographic replacement. My generation will fight the culture war
against feminism and LGBT.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Please try and not f it up more than you
already have.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Sincerely, jay Ah, the angry young man and at the
root of it is the Jews. Good to see that
back for the twenty seventh time, and the hyper confidence
of the angry young man. That's original too, because you've
figured out everything.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Congratulations, Well, I know people like that. Men and women
who have that exactly that attitude could have written that email.
I just the thing I wonder is what percentage that is?
I wish I had a better idea of what percentage
of people are that. I assume he's unhappy with Trump
at this point. And finally, how much time do we have?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Michael about forty seconds? Forty seconds? JT and Livermore rights
contral to Jack's claim that MTG is about as MAGA
as anyone in America. You can't be MAGO without being
pro Trump. Trump and MAGA are synonymous, That's what Trump says. Second,
MTG went off to deep end years ago. Her break
with Trump is not actually new in particular, As far
back as twenty twenty one, she started spouting her anti
(36:07):
Semitic bs about Jewish lasers starting California wildfires, the Rothschild's genocide, genocide,
and Gaza, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
You say Trump is maga, we will find out. Trump
says it is a whole bunch of people out there
saying no, he's not. We're maga, like that guy earlier
with his email. We'll see how big that crowd is,
how much power they have over the Republican Party. We
have so much to talk about it. I hope you
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