August 2, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Friday August 2, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- ASU Professor Sues Over DEI
- New Vocal Fry Alot
- DEI Marxists
- Madonna & Jack Reads the Terms
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Right now, it's a pleasure to talk to doctor Owen Anderson,
longtime professor at Arizona State University, who is joining with
the Goldwater Institute to sue Arizona State for a number
of different reasons. And I don't want to steal this thunder,
but it has to do with being forced to submit
to DEI training and in violation not only of conscience
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and beliefs about race, but in violation of state law.
Doctor Owen Anderson joins us, May we call you Owen sir?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yes, please do, and thank you so much for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh, it's beyond our pleasure. This is at the top
of our list of jihadd's. But so, what did Arizona
State to tell you you had to do and why
do you object?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, I've been actually been teaching at ASU for over
twenty one years, so I've been on quite a while,
and I've always you know, I've gotten good, good reviews
for my teaching and my work as a professor, I
published widely in my field. But then about about two
years ago, November twenty twenty two, I got a notification
that I required DEI training is called Inclusive Communities, and
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I think everybody who works at a state university is
in favor of inclusion. And you know, everybody should go
to go to state university without any exception. So it
sounds good inclusive communities. But when you look into the content,
I mean, I think it's startling. One thing that Goldwater
Institute has done is they've made the content known publicly,
and anyone who reads it has kind of startled, like, wow,
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that's that's actually racism. What it does is people up
into races and then it treats them differently based on
their race, based on their skin color, which is the
very definition of racism. And so I said, I'm not
going to take that because it violates my conscience. I
believe racism is wrong in any setting, and so I'm
not going to able to participate, so that it stays
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on my file saying as it required and I'm overdue.
I'm supposed to take it once every two years, so
that time is coming up soon here. Well, I won't
have taken it in two years, and so I've always
had this kind of threat hanging over me then that
I may be disciplined for not meeting their requirement of
this DEI training.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You said something there open that went by quickly, but
I think it's pretty significant. And because we've observed this,
observed this over and over again, people don't many people
don't know what's in these so called training courses, and
as soon as they're exposed to the truth, they're shocked
by it. And it's odd, to say the least, that
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Arizona State has training programs that when people see their
content are.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Horrified by them. That shouldn't be going There should be
much more transparency than that.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, that's exactly right, and I think that's part of
what's going to happen is that this is a state
agency and I'm a state employee, and so anything that
goes on needs to be known to the public. The
taxpayers need to know this is the kind of thing
going on. It's one thing to teach about DEI for
those who are interested. It's quite another thing to require it.
And it goes beyond simply requiring you watch a video.
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There's a quiz you have to take, and so the
quiz the way the answers are set up compels you
to agree with the content. So for example, there might
be a true false question and it says, you know
something like white people don't know about their privilege, and
you're supposed to say true, which means you agree with it. Right,
I can review like I can Rea, I've got some
of them here, go ahead, please. Some of the content
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from the slides includes one of the main topics is
white supremacy and how the whole United States system is
structurally racist. And so they'll have topics like explaining white
privilege to a broke white person. So even though this
person's broke, they're white, and so just in version of that,
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they're privileged. White fragility. There's a whole video about white
fragility and how white people don't accept their responsibility for
all the past evils. And that's one of the main
things that goes on in these is that all of
history leading up to the present is blamed on people
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for their race. Because of your race, because of your
skin color, you're responsible for things that happened in the past.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And then there's light and you are just assumed, well
not assumed, but it's aggressively taught that you have a
certain set of characteristics because of your skin color, which
is the definition of racism.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Well, so you decided not to take the training. Do
you have any idea if you did take the training,
but you said false to the true false question, how
does that work?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, that's a great question. Because what I did was
I started going through it and I said, this is
this is wrong. And I looked at the quiz and
I said, I'm not going to do these and so
I never finished it. So I don't know what would
have happened if I simply disagreed with the answers. But
what I did was I started a substack doctor Owen
Anderson on substack, and I just started talking about this
stuff because I said, the public needs to know about this.
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This is this is not right people. I mean, the
idea of a state university is a very good idea.
We should have universities that people that are that are
affordable for the people of the state, and you can
send your children there. You can afford it, you know, hopefully,
I mean it's gone up a lot in price, and
hope you can afford it. What's a good education. But
then what's happened is these state universities are actively teaching
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a very partisan ideology and it alienates conservatives Christians. I mean,
we we had Dennis Praeger out to ASU last year,
and the vast majority of our Honors college wrote a
letter about how he's a white nationalist.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Dennis Preger beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
We're talking at doctor Owan Anderson of Arizona State University.
He and Goldwater Institute are suing Arizona State University for
mandatory DEI training, and all of this is absolutely right,
and I believe it fervently from a moral point of view.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
But it's also correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It's just literally illegal in Arizona to have this sort
of mandatory training that teaches essentially discrimination based on race.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yes, that's right. We have a law that prohibits state
agencies from using state money to teach any kind of
race blame or judgment based on race, and that should
just be common sense. I mean, the idea is you
blame a people group based on their skin color for
something that you say, all those people are wrong. That's
just what racism is. That's what we're opposed to. That's
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what Martin Luther King Junior taught us to avoid judging
people based on their skin color instead of their character.
So it should be obvious. But what's happened is most
of this is done secretly, behind the scenes, and people
don't know about it. So one thing that was interesting
to me as I started my sub stack is I
would get emails from parents who said I had no idea.
I mean, I always assumed at university's liberal, but I
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had no idea how bad it was.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So let me hear what was that true false question? Again,
the true false question.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Let me give an example. Here's another one. I have
it in front of me. Which of the following areas
of the university should address DEIB so diversity, equity, inclusion belonging.
There's a multiple choice, but the correct answer is d
DEIB should be part of every facet of the university. Right,
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and get that question right. You have to agree that
DEIV should be part of every single facet of the university.
And of course I don't agree about that at all.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right, and then living microbiology, good luck with that, right,
And then a push for that in the sciences, yep,
how do you.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Work that into physics? You have any idea?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
They try?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, I've seen examples of it, and it's just it's
laughable and idiotic. Now, doctor Anderson, I happen to know
you teach philosophy and religious studies, and this is kind
of an aside, but it's got to make you insane
that you have this, you know, the ebramex Candy point
of view that you're a racist. And you have two
choices either say no, I'm not a racist, which proves
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you're a racist, or say yes, I'm a racist, which
proves you're racist.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
As a guy who's devoted.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Your life to these subtleties of knowledge and human understanding,
the fact that people would fall for a scheme that's
stupid has got to make you insane.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well, one of my classes I love teaching is introductional logic, right,
and so you're right. What stuns me is I'm teaching
my my freshman simple logical fallacies to avoid, and then
I'm seeing them by people who are advanced degrees, and
so it is studying to me. The one you just
gave from Evra mc kenny is a great example where
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where you're simply assumed that you are racist, just begs
the question and you can't say anything back or else.
That just simply proves the point as well.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
So yeah, that's you.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Know, I mean, it's it's one thing that is a mark.
I love university, I love studying philosophy, I love studying
all subjects. But this is a real mark against an
argument that says, hey, everyone should go to college. But
wait a minute, your most advanced professors can't avoid simple
logical fallacies.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
So us talking to education, US talking to a philosophy
major the other day got their graduate degree in philosophy
from Berkeley, and I brought up Nietzsche and they said,
Nietzsche's a bunch of crap.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You got to read Kant or Hume. Would you agree
or not it with that? A bunch of crap you
want to give?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah? Yeah, I think he is overrated. He appeals to
people who think I want to do what I want
to do.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
There you go, so the.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Power of your will, you go, Wow, there you go
summarized an entire class. Then in thirty seconds, your gifted Jack,
You're a gift Steed me a lot of time there
so on.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
So a whole bunch of people like so would your
take me that? Like practically everybody there at the university
did take that test. And answered to a question like
to our false white people aren't understanding their white privilege,
like most people took it and said true.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, I I mean I don't have access to I
would I would have to assume that's true. I have
a few people who reached out to me and they
said they didn't take it either, And so I do
know there's a couple of us, But I think the
vastman I think the people who agree with me at
ASU mostly are silent because they know if I speak up,
there's all kinds of subtle ways they can harass you.
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And I mean, I've sat to faculty meetings where we're
supposed to be talking about the business of our school, classes, enrollment,
things like that, and we will touch on those and
then we get right into left wing politics and how
bad Conservatives and Christians are, and so there's all kinds
of ways that you can be made to feel uncomfortable
at work, which if it was done to anyone else,
they would say, hey, that's illegal unless.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You drop to your knees and pledge fealty to their religion.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah exactly. Uh, doctor Owen Anderson.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I'm sorry, Well, you just said its important. It's a religion.
It has all the same marks of religion. I don't
say that as a put down because I'm a Christian.
I'm not actually also a Christian pastor. But it has
the marks of a religion in terms of having assumptions
that you're not allowed to question, and then having this
kind of missionary zeal where they want to convert all
the young people to their religion.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, and like some religions or even the phases of
Christianity of the past, they want to hurt anyone who
refuses to come around. But we're about out of time,
you know. We ought to have doctor Anderson back again sometime,
whether i'm the era or do a podcast. I would
love to do a podcast on logical fallacy. That's one
of my favorite things.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah. But hey, hey, stay in touch on this.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
We're one hundred percent on your side, rooting for you
and it's been great to talk.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Thanks, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And as you learn, Nietzsche's a bunch of crap.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So just to summarize, yeah, I found that you are.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
So I was talking to me the you know, advanced
degree from one of the major universities. I brought up
Nietzsche in philosophy and they're like, that's not people. Real
people in philosophy don't talk about Nietzsche. That's like for
Reddit forums and stoned high college kids.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
That's not where left life. Just your opinion.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Man, God, I that would be a tough situation to
be in. You got a good job, you got tenure,
you like living there, you got a family, and I
gotta I gotta click true for white people don't recognize
their privilege. Oh, shut up with that crap.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I think you just heard what character sounds like Jack
Armstrong and Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
The Armstrong and Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getdy Show.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Let's go through a couple of texts.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
We got on a variety of topics, so we don't
do this often and off hearing.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
From you the people.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Our text line is four one KFTC. Somehow we got
on the topic of brushing or something like that. I
don't know even how I'm brushing your teeth. We got
this text I brush once a day. I use mouthwashes,
needed flossing as a scam. Flossing as a scam.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, so I've been pushed down our throats by big
flass to the fact that I only brush once a day.
Which I have gotten my come up once for yeah,
eyebrush once a day, I always have, but maybe i'll
start Jack, You're gonna be doomed eating only soup if
you don't take better care of your teeth. And remember,
heart disease starts in the mouth. That's a that's a
good saying if it's true, and I don't know if it.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Is, there is truth to it.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, I know if you have like heart valve replacements
or heart valve problems, you have to take powerful antibiotics
before you have dental work done.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
A couple of quick tax things. We got the annual.
You know you don't actually have to pay your taxes
because of something or other in the constitution.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
That comes every year.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That conversation happens, and we always say, go ahead and
try it.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Give it a whirl. You're you seem very confident. Go
ahead and give it a shot. See how it works.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Do it five years in a row. Good less.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Say hey to Wesley Snipes while you're there, whomever, famous
actor who didn't pay his taxes.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
If you don't know who that is, that's excellent subtext.
Thank you. We got another tax thing. What was the
one we got?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Anyway, I wanted to get to this one, so we
played this girl yesterday and got quite a minute commentary.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Listen the way she talks here, how many genders are there?
It's a spectrum, so like a lie that makes my
escape crawl. I don't even know how she makes noise?
Is there a name for that kind of talking?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Is that vocal fryar Valley girl or a combo of
the two or I don't know, but yes.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Like you know Asian fusion cooking, it's a couple of
different things going on there. So like Aliyah, wow, Eliah.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It sounds like she's speaking while gargling peanut butter. It's
difficult again, how do you make that noise with your throat?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Well, I have somebody in my orbit who talks that way,
a college aged girl, And it looks hard to do.
It looks like it requires physical effort, Like really I would?
It looks just watching it, it looks like something you
want to do to be in a certain social circle,
like wearing high heels. It'd be like something you want
to do for a while and then you think my
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feet hurt, I'm gonna take them off.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
It seems I could be like that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'm I's holding on for a while and then Okay,
I gotta go back to my normal ways as it
hurt my throat.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Something you got this test? Something in tredibly off putting
about that.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, oh god, I would say. I mean even when
you did it, I got that same skin crawling feeling.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
But I'm a high school teacher. As a high school teacher,
guess how many girls talk like that?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
You're right? A lot?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
She throws in the up, talking like asking a question
thing as well, Jeff and San Jose.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
So this is a Bay area high school teacher.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
So I guess if it's gonna be anywhere in the
country where lots of high school girls are talking that way,
it'd be the Bay Area of.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
California, San Fernando Valley. Yeah, she is, play it one
more time.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I so, like Alah, I think we may be in
the presence of Gratnes year. This, this young girl has
managed to incorporate virtually every annoying verbal tick known to
the American mind.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Plus the substance of what she said, because she has
asked how many genders there are?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And she said a lot? So like ali us alike
as well, got aske in there.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're right Yeah, there's a lot of what I wonder what.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
She looked like. Anybody see the video of that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
This is the yo yo ma of annoying speech. God
dang it, sorry about that. I know we annoyed a
lot of people with that clip.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I'm strong and get the reality is is is fabulous.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I thank you. That's enough of that. This is crazy,
That's just what it is. But damn it, we weren't
allowed to ask about the big guys. This is the
United States of America. Got let's not play games.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
A lot of the college kids are sincere about whatever
sub issue they're chanting about, whether it's Israel, Hummas, or
trans rites or what have you. But as we've been
discussing on and off the whole show, it's all about
neo Marxism trying to usher in a Marxist utopia. And again,
if you're just tuning in, I know what you're saying.
Wait a minute, what is like anti racism? Even if
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I think Ibram Kenny's a crack pot and Robin DiAngelo
is a moron who leads other morons. What does that
have to do with Marxism? Do you want to do
the super short description of it or well, the economic
version of marketism didn't work. The Frankfurt School, which kicked
off all of this, the geniuses there back in the twenties.
(18:27):
It was basically that, okay, so they had a revolution
in Russia, but why didn't we have one in Germany.
I mean, everybody's unhappy with the economics, but we didn't
have a revolution, and they decided economics is not motivating enough,
so they have to go after every aspect of culture
and tear that down.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Hence critical theory.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's critical of everything and finds ridiculous things to say
that's problematic, and the whole it doesn't matter what you meant,
it's what was received. Is one of the tools of it,
because they can say, oh, what you said there is racist.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
You say, I didn't mean it in a racist way
at all. I met this. That doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
The whole point is to get you on your heels
so they can tear down the system and usher in
their Marxist utopia. They just exploit any division they can find.
Having said that we got this note from al Nanymous.
Might even be a leen anonymous, might be a man,
might be a woman, which, by the way, are the
only two sexes and you can't change it anyway.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Oh bah bah ball.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
This person has worked as a substitute in the Sacramento
School District and holy sh I can't say that. Has
it opened my eyes to the insanity that's going on
in education. This person has kids not far off your
kids age jack, early teens, that sort of thing, And
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after seeing the insanity that's going on, we moved my
daughter to private school and my son will be going soon,
keeping in mind he was teaching at Sacramento schools. That's funny,
I got a I can't say that all right, never
mind about it. As a sub I get to see
the real day of what these kids are exposed to,
and it makes me sick, angry, disappointed, really really mad.
(20:14):
I sub all ages K through twelve, and it's bad
across the board. What I've enclosed is only the most
recent example of things I've found in the classroom. This
is perhaps from the best high school in the Sacramento
County Unified School District and is published by the Gay
Straight Alliance and is distributed on campus to the children.
(20:37):
My quick take is that it takes confused and probably
gay teens and sets them on the Marxist path. And
I'll explain how in a second, with things that have
absolutely knew nothing to do with sexuality and conflating issues
in a serious and dangerous way. Anyway, So I thought
this was a beautiful example of what we've been talking about. Okay,
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So these are gay kids and they're not sure about
being gay, and they're confused, effeminate boys, butch girls, whatever,
and they bring them into the Gay Straight Alliance.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Okay, So what does the Gay Straight Alliance treat you?
Teach you? All right?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Here's their nine point platform. This is the National Trans
Youth Council. And again this stuff is handed out to
the kids in the Gay Straight Alliance on the campuses
of middle schools, high schools, probably in elementary schools.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Here are your nine points.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
One, we call for the right of self determination and
control of our destinies.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Thomas Jefferson agreed with you. Okay, we're fine.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Two, we call for the abolition of the police, ice borders,
and the judicial system.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Whoa whoa whoa zero to six sties. So they're handing
this out to sixth graders. We call for the abolition
of the police.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So I come to the Gay Straight Alliance and I say,
you know, i'm a young boy, and I actually I
find myself attracted to some of my friends and not
to girls. They say, great, it's abolished the police and
ice that open the borders and abolish the entire judicial system.
And you, as an impressionable youngster, like this is part
of it. Absolutely it is, and you're so special. We're
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so glad you came to us. We're so glad we're
gonna help you out. And remember, we got to abolish
the police. So that's that's as quick as that neo
Marxist leap is made.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
This is how it works. There's more. It's a very
small print.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
You can tell they're handing it out to young kids
and not middle aged dudes. Luckily, my eyesat is fantastic.
Point three, we call for an end to disposability politics
and a commitment to transformative justice. I was listening to
NPR over the weekend because it's it's so helpful to
hear the arguments being made on the left, so I
know what I'm here to counter and man, they had
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a couple of author checks who'd written a book about
this crap together, and the amount of collegiate style jargon
that comes out of their mouths, they can't tell you
what day it is without collectivists decolonization talk, right, yeah, anyway,
we call for an end of the cisgender heterosexual patriarchy.
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We call for decolonization and reparations for all indigenous and
black peoples. Again, I'm a twelve year old boy who
realizes I'm attracted to boys, and you're like, you want
in reparations for all black peoples? What about the ones
who are like running Nigerian or riches can be.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
So the argument, unless you haven't caught onto this on
why you got to disrupt all this stuff is that's
what's keeping the awful system in place. All of these
things cops are keeping the white supremacist, straight white male
world going the way it is. Our border is just
everything that's part of the structure needs to go so
that we can turn it upside down and get the
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world where we'll be happy. Somehow, mine, like the last
part of it kind of drifts off to YadA YadA, yadas.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Oh no, well, won't manage that we'll get that done.
Don't worry about it. Marxism will bring in happiness. But
that's why structural is so important. In structural racism. What
they're saying is, Jack, I'm reminded once again of your
wasp infiltration of your roof.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
That one time that knows norrible nightmares.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, but what they're saying is, you can't just replace
the roof.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
You can't just remove the nest.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
The wasps are in the very structure of the house,
or the racism is in every structure of our society. Therefore,
we have to completely tear down society and usher in
a neo Marxist utopia. Let me just finish this real quick.
The nine point Plan. We call for comprehensive education that
reflects our histories and needs. We call for an end
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to global white supremacy. We call for land justice and
environmental justice. Again, so you're some kid who Gretituneberg has
really caught your ear, and you're like, oh my god,
we're going to boil a lot, and the seas are
going to drown us, and we're going to boil aand
and so is all wrong, and.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
So my that sounds un well.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yes, as a twelve year old, I would be rather
concerned about it. And so you decide, Okay, my thing
is is climate change. I want to fight against the
oil companies climate change because I'm convinced that it will
kill us all, because they've terrified me as a child.
What do you have in common with the twelve year
old boy who realizes he's attracted to boys, or the
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butch girl, or the young black man who's been convinced
that all white people are against him.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
What the hell do you have in common? Really?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Nothing except that these people convince you need to tear
down the United States and Western civilization.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
One. I think there's one more. Yeah, we invite our.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Comrades, accomplices and allies to join us. And then some
of the other things they hand out. We call for
the abolition of Iceberg. That's just kind of detail.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I guess that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
National trans Youth Council, Decolonization reparations.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Further there you go, I know of it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
These are stickers I'm supposed to put on my like
my notebook for school, a sticker on my math book
that says decolonization and reparation for all Indigenous and Black people.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
So Jerry Seinfeld was on every show except Hours that
exists on Planet Earth over the last two weeks, thanks
Jerry promoting his Unfrosted movie, which I watched on Friday
night and thought was pretty damn funny. Bill Burr's portrayal
of John F. Kennedy I thought was really.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Really good, but sef and just thinking about it.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
So Seinfeld was on with Bill Maher over the weekend
on his Sitting in the Basement show for like an
hour and a half talking about things. And Bill Maher
gave Jerry Seinfeld a birthday present. Their friends going way
way back, and Seinfeld just turned seventy, and so Bill
Maher gave him a poster from the nineteen sixty four
(27:03):
World's Fair, which I guess was in New York and
they both were New Yorkers, and it went and it
reminds them.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Of childhood and everything like that.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
And it was this map and they were looking at
the map and they're at the World's Fair. There was
the gem exhibit, and there was the all the different
countries exhibits and everything like that. And I don't remember
which one of them brought up the idea of you
couldn't do that now. You couldn't do that now because
it wre'd be people protesting outside the GM exhibit that
it contributes to climate change, and any of the countries
it'd be claiming cultural appropriation, and this thing over there
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would be claiming, you know, that's a homophobic or whatever. Sure,
and Seinfeld said, I thought this was really interesting. He said,
do you remember the comedian he mentioned this comedian You
wouldn't know that I've seen before live.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
But anyway, he had a line from way back in
the day whenever anybody would heckle him, he'd say, I'm sorry, sir,
only only one of us s Geitz a microphone tonight.
And that was his line for Heckler's And Seinfeld said,
that's what has happened, that's what has ruined the world.
Now everybody has a microphone with the Internet and just
you know, everything everything, everybody is a microphone, and now
everything is ruined.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
It's ruined the world. Wow.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
And they both as two old men, just you know,
kind of did the whole shake your head the world
is ruined.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Thing that you do when you get to be old.
But that is absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Everybody got a microphone and everything is ruined. Tell me
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, it's because everybody has decided they deserve a microphone.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
And yes, I understand the irony.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I'm saying this into one, but they think they have
a microphone all the time. And I remember talking about
this when my kids were in high school, which was
longer ago than i'd like to admit, certainly, the older
ones and I would go to their plays and musicals
and stuff like that, and the kids would like shout
from the audience and not heckle exactly, but support or
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comment on the action from the audience, like I deserve
some spotlight too. The kids rehearsed for months. Of course,
they were in costume, and they'd memorize their lines they're
up on stage.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
But so many of the kids in the.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Audience thought, no, I get a little attention to tonight,
and nobody did anything about that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
No, no, no. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And I couldn't stand it because it's and maybe it's
because I'm a performer, but the idea of you've done
all of that to get the spotlight and now I'm
gonna get some of that spotlight is you just don't
do that. That's a horrible thing to do, but so
many of the kids felt entitled to do that, getting
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really into weeds.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
But it's the ul eleven argument from his book that
I've mentioned many may times about how in the world
now you stand on platforms other people built and try
to take advantage of that for your own needs, which
often destroys the platform. And there's all kinds of examples
of I think that's one there. But the only way
out of the everybody gets a microphone thing is we
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got to stop listening to everybody with a microphone.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I guess maybe there is no way out of it.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I don't know, but everybody has a microphone and everything
sucks now.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
And I was shaking.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
I was shaking my head along with the old men,
thinking you're right, everything does suck because everybody has a microphone.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Now, I've got a heavy sought for you. Are you ready, Michael,
Are you ready? Because this is like uranium heavy here?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
All right, this is.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Joe's heavy thought. And I thought we were gonna have
a music for that or something like that.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
No, it's too heavy for music.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Wow, too heavy, too heavy for sound effects? Right right,
this is not a joke.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
People. Western civilization.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Will prove it deserves to survive by surviving, and if
it doesn't deserve to survive, it will not if we
can't save it, we being all of us, probably doesn't
deserve to be saved.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Boy, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Does does does it going away mean it didn't deserve
to survive? If cancer overtakes me? Did I not deserve
to survive because I had a cancer in me?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Decent metaphor?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But I think civilizations work a little differently than cancer.
So well, it's I'm kidding, it's to take it back
to Bill Clinton. What's right with America is strong enough
to fix what's wrong with America?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Is that still true?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Okay, well, y'all I'll be dead by then, but y'all
enjoy whatever follows Western civilization. I'm willing to bet every
dollar I have that it's not better.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It won't be more than two to six hundred years
of misery and poverty.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Or the end of the planet. Yeah, And why the eop?
What I have asked this question? Why would anybody listen
to this radio show?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Well, no travel clearly, I just for saying you're trying
to one up me. I say we got the end
of the civilization here and you say, no, it's the
end of the planet.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Well, all right, all right, fine, Oh no, it's the
end of the universe. The galaxy melt.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I'm Jack Arms, Michael says, I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Thee Armstrong and Getty show, or Jack your show podcasts
and our Hot Lakes, the Armstrong and Getty Show on
Brazil's Copa Cabana Beach.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
One point six million people heading out for the material girl.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
A free Madonna concert to close out her celebration tour.
One point how many million people watched Madonna at this concert?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I free Madonna concert? Why was she jailed?
Speaker 5 (32:32):
I was I've been to outdoor concerts where there was
fifty thousand people there, and I thought, why am I here?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Is?
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I'm watching it on a giant screen from a mile away?
I mean, can I guess so I can claim I
was here? One point two million?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I sentenced you to ten years for elderly skankery.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
It might be a mile away from where she's singing.
Can you say you were at her concert? I guess
it's just a party at that point. Sure, yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh Madonna still super popular south of the Equator.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I'm gonna run through a couple of things here, just
grabbing my notes from the weekend. One note one, I'm
wearing my I accidentally grab my son's suit and it's
too big for me.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
So I feel weird today and my clothes don't fit.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I gotta make sure I get my own clothes which
are smallest enough.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Congress had its lowest ever approval rating at the end
of April thirteen percent. That's the lowest Congress has ever
been in a gallop pole thirteen. It's pretty low. That's
like pulling losing an eye, right, Yeah, some people say,
(33:41):
you know, i'd be bad bezer having one eye.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
This one. Damn.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I mind bothers me all the time. Wow, thirteen And
as always you thirteen percent? What is your standard?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I don't know if you saw the Caitlin Clark highlight
that I tweeted out from her first ever WNBA game
the other night. In the first half her first game ever,
she scored sixteen points for three pointers. My favorite part
was the highlight that I tweeted out. Clearly some girls
were like, Okay, you're in the pros, now, we're gonna
show you what defenses And they were all over her.
She just dribbled around them like a million miles an hour,
(34:15):
got some separation, and nailed along three.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It was awesome. Why it was pretty impressive. It was
pretty impressive. I don't know if that's going to continue
to bring.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Ratings or not.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
One other thing I wanted to mention. I complained about
this all the time. So I was applying for a rental.
So to do that, you got to go to their
website and like sign up for you gotta sign up
for a some website thingy.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
They're portal, they're portal or whatever.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
To even say you'd like to look at the place,
which is highly annoying, and then agree to their terms.
And I thought, okay, for fun. Every once in a
while I do this. I decide to look at what
are the damn terms that I'm agreeing to right here?
It's probably something horrific. And in the middle of the
terms I had a little thing in there. We have
the right to change these terms at any time after
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you agree to them.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Now that's a term. So I either can't.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Look at this place or apply for it, or I
have to agree to give you all my information, including
my Social Security number, and your terms are we get
to change the terms whenever we want.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
The terms or whatever we say they are are terms?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Now?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Are we get to sell your social Security number to
Mexicans crossing the border or I don't know what their terms.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Are Russian mom? Yeah, and we have to put up
with them.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
There's gotta somehow laws have to get put in place
of deal with that.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
That's an all timer right there. What might be in
half the stuff I sign? Usually I don't ever look
at the terms. I wonder if that is like standard.
Oh and I was so many pages down.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I mean I scrolled through if it was pages, maybe
ten pages of legal ease before I got to that
one sentence.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
This cannot stand. You would hope not
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Right now, it's a pleasure to talk to doctor Owen Anderson,
longtime professor at Arizona State University, who is joining with
the Goldwater Institute to sue Arizona State for a number
of different reasons. And I don't want to steal this thunder,
but it has to do with being forced to submit
to DEI training and in violation not only of conscience
(00:49):
and beliefs about race, but in violation of state law.
Doctor Owen Anderson joins us, May we call you Owen sir?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yes, please do, and thank you so much for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh, it's beyond our pleasure. This is at the top
of our list of jihadd's. But so, what did Arizona
State to tell you you had to do and why
do you object?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, I've been actually been teaching at ASU for over
twenty one years, so I've been on quite a while,
and I've always you know, I've gotten good, good reviews
for my teaching and my work as a professor, I
published widely in my field. But then about about two
years ago, November twenty twenty two, I got a notification
that I required DEI training is called Inclusive Communities, and
(01:35):
I think everybody who works at a state university is
in favor of inclusion. And you know, everybody should go
to go to state university without any exception. So it
sounds good inclusive communities. But when you look into the content,
I mean, I think it's startling. One thing that Goldwater
Institute has done is they've made the content known publicly,
and anyone who reads it has kind of startled, like, wow,
(01:56):
that's that's actually racism. What it does is people up
into races and then it treats them differently based on
their race, based on their skin color, which is the
very definition of racism. And so I said, I'm not
going to take that because it violates my conscience. I
believe racism is wrong in any setting, and so I'm
not going to able to participate, so that it stays
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on my file saying as it required and I'm overdue.
I'm supposed to take it once every two years, so
that time is coming up soon here. Well, I won't
have taken it in two years, and so I've always
had this kind of threat hanging over me then that
I may be disciplined for not meeting their requirement of
this DEI training.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You said something there open that went by quickly, but
I think it's pretty significant. And because we've observed this,
observed this over and over again, people don't many people
don't know what's in these so called training courses, and
as soon as they're exposed to the truth, they're shocked
by it. And it's odd, to say the least, that
(03:00):
Arizona State has training programs that when people see their
content are.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Horrified by them. That shouldn't be going There should be
much more transparency than that.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, that's exactly right, and I think that's part of
what's going to happen is that this is a state
agency and I'm a state employee, and so anything that
goes on needs to be known to the public. The
taxpayers need to know this is the kind of thing
going on. It's one thing to teach about DEI for
those who are interested. It's quite another thing to require it.
And it goes beyond simply requiring you watch a video.
(03:33):
There's a quiz you have to take, and so the
quiz the way the answers are set up compels you
to agree with the content. So for example, there might
be a true false question and it says, you know
something like white people don't know about their privilege, and
you're supposed to say true, which means you agree with it. Right,
I can review like I can Rea, I've got some
of them here, go ahead, please. Some of the content
(03:55):
from the slides includes one of the main topics is
white supremacy and how the whole United States system is
structurally racist. And so they'll have topics like explaining white
privilege to a broke white person. So even though this
person's broke, they're white, and so just in version of that,
(04:16):
they're privileged. White fragility. There's a whole video about white
fragility and how white people don't accept their responsibility for
all the past evils. And that's one of the main
things that goes on in these is that all of
history leading up to the present is blamed on people
(04:36):
for their race. Because of your race, because of your
skin color, you're responsible for things that happened in the past.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And then there's light and you are just assumed, well
not assumed, but it's aggressively taught that you have a
certain set of characteristics because of your skin color, which
is the definition of racism.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Well, so you decided not to take the training. Do
you have any idea if you did take the training,
but you said false to the true false question, how
does that work?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, that's a great question. Because what I did was
I started going through it and I said, this is
this is wrong. And I looked at the quiz and
I said, I'm not going to do these and so
I never finished it. So I don't know what would
have happened if I simply disagreed with the answers. But
what I did was I started a substack doctor Owen
Anderson on substack, and I just started talking about this
stuff because I said, the public needs to know about this.
(05:27):
This is this is not right people. I mean, the
idea of a state university is a very good idea.
We should have universities that people that are that are
affordable for the people of the state, and you can
send your children there. You can afford it, you know, hopefully,
I mean it's gone up a lot in price, and
hope you can afford it. What's a good education. But
then what's happened is these state universities are actively teaching
(05:49):
a very partisan ideology and it alienates conservatives Christians. I mean,
we we had Dennis Praeger out to ASU last year,
and the vast majority of our Honors college wrote a
letter about how he's a white nationalist.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Dennis Preger beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
We're talking at doctor Owan Anderson of Arizona State University.
He and Goldwater Institute are suing Arizona State University for
mandatory DEI training, and all of this is absolutely right,
and I believe it fervently from a moral point of view.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
But it's also correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It's just literally illegal in Arizona to have this sort
of mandatory training that teaches essentially discrimination based on race.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yes, that's right. We have a law that prohibits state
agencies from using state money to teach any kind of
race blame or judgment based on race, and that should
just be common sense. I mean, the idea is you
blame a people group based on their skin color for
something that you say, all those people are wrong. That's
just what racism is. That's what we're opposed to. That's
(06:59):
what Martin Luther King Junior taught us to avoid judging
people based on their skin color instead of their character.
So it should be obvious. But what's happened is most
of this is done secretly, behind the scenes, and people
don't know about it. So one thing that was interesting
to me as I started my sub stack is I
would get emails from parents who said I had no idea.
I mean, I always assumed at university's liberal, but I
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had no idea how bad it was.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So let me hear what was that true false question? Again,
the true false question.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Let me give an example. Here's another one. I have
it in front of me. Which of the following areas
of the university should address DEIB so diversity, equity, inclusion belonging.
There's a multiple choice, but the correct answer is d
DEIB should be part of every facet of the university. Right,
(07:51):
and get that question right. You have to agree that
DEIV should be part of every single facet of the university.
And of course I don't agree about that at all.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right, and then living microbiology, good luck with that, right,
And then a push for that in the sciences, yep,
how do you.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Work that into physics? You have any idea?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
They try?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, I've seen examples of it, and it's just it's
laughable and idiotic. Now, doctor Anderson, I happen to know
you teach philosophy and religious studies, and this is kind
of an aside, but it's got to make you insane
that you have this, you know, the ebramex Candy point
of view that you're a racist. And you have two
choices either say no, I'm not a racist, which proves
(08:36):
you're a racist, or say yes, I'm a racist, which
proves you're racist.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
As a guy who's devoted.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Your life to these subtleties of knowledge and human understanding,
the fact that people would fall for a scheme that's
stupid has got to make you insane.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well, one of my classes I love teaching is introductional logic, right,
and so you're right. What stuns me is I'm teaching
my my freshman simple logical fallacies to avoid, and then
I'm seeing them by people who are advanced degrees, and
so it is studying to me. The one you just
gave from Evra mc kenny is a great example where
(09:11):
where you're simply assumed that you are racist, just begs
the question and you can't say anything back or else.
That just simply proves the point as well.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
So yeah, that's you.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Know, I mean, it's it's one thing that is a mark.
I love university, I love studying philosophy, I love studying
all subjects. But this is a real mark against an
argument that says, hey, everyone should go to college. But
wait a minute, your most advanced professors can't avoid simple
logical fallacies.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
So us talking to education, US talking to a philosophy
major the other day got their graduate degree in philosophy
from Berkeley, and I brought up Nietzsche and they said,
Nietzsche's a bunch of crap.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You got to read Kant or Hume. Would you agree
or not it with that? A bunch of crap you
want to give?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah? Yeah, I think he is overrated. He appeals to
people who think I want to do what I want
to do.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
There you go, so the.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Power of your will, you go, Wow, there you go
summarized an entire class. Then in thirty seconds, your gifted Jack,
You're a gift Steed me a lot of time there
so on.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
So a whole bunch of people like so would your
take me that? Like practically everybody there at the university
did take that test. And answered to a question like
to our false white people aren't understanding their white privilege,
like most people took it and said true.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, I I mean I don't have access to I
would I would have to assume that's true. I have
a few people who reached out to me and they
said they didn't take it either, And so I do
know there's a couple of us, But I think the
vastman I think the people who agree with me at
ASU mostly are silent because they know if I speak up,
there's all kinds of subtle ways they can harass you.
(10:54):
And I mean, I've sat to faculty meetings where we're
supposed to be talking about the business of our school, classes, enrollment,
things like that, and we will touch on those and
then we get right into left wing politics and how
bad Conservatives and Christians are, and so there's all kinds
of ways that you can be made to feel uncomfortable
at work, which if it was done to anyone else,
they would say, hey, that's illegal unless.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You drop to your knees and pledge fealty to their religion.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah exactly. Uh, doctor Owen Anderson.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I'm sorry, Well, you just said its important. It's a religion.
It has all the same marks of religion. I don't
say that as a put down because I'm a Christian.
I'm not actually also a Christian pastor. But it has
the marks of a religion in terms of having assumptions
that you're not allowed to question, and then having this
kind of missionary zeal where they want to convert all
the young people to their religion.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, and like some religions or even the phases of
Christianity of the past, they want to hurt anyone who
refuses to come around. But we're about out of time,
you know. We ought to have doctor Anderson back again sometime,
whether i'm the era or do a podcast. I would
love to do a podcast on logical fallacy. That's one
of my favorite things.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah. But hey, hey, stay in touch on this.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
We're one hundred percent on your side, rooting for you
and it's been great to talk.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Thanks, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And as you learn, Nietzsche's a bunch of crap.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So just to summarize, yeah, I found that you are.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
So I was talking to me the you know, advanced
degree from one of the major universities. I brought up
Nietzsche in philosophy and they're like, that's not people. Real
people in philosophy don't talk about Nietzsche. That's like for
Reddit forums and stoned high college kids.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
That's not where left life. Just your opinion.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Man, God, I that would be a tough situation to
be in. You got a good job, you got tenure,
you like living there, you got a family, and I
gotta I gotta click true for white people don't recognize
their privilege. Oh, shut up with that crap.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I think you just heard what character sounds like Jack
Armstrong and Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
The Armstrong and Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getdy Show.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Let's go through a couple of texts.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
We got on a variety of topics, so we don't
do this often and off hearing.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
From you the people.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Our text line is four one KFTC. Somehow we got
on the topic of brushing or something like that. I
don't know even how I'm brushing your teeth. We got
this text I brush once a day. I use mouthwashes,
needed flossing as a scam. Flossing as a scam.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, so I've been pushed down our throats by big
flass to the fact that I only brush once a day.
Which I have gotten my come up once for yeah,
eyebrush once a day, I always have, but maybe i'll
start Jack, You're gonna be doomed eating only soup if
you don't take better care of your teeth. And remember,
heart disease starts in the mouth. That's a that's a
good saying if it's true, and I don't know if it.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Is, there is truth to it.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, I know if you have like heart valve replacements
or heart valve problems, you have to take powerful antibiotics
before you have dental work done.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
A couple of quick tax things. We got the annual.
You know you don't actually have to pay your taxes
because of something or other in the constitution.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
That comes every year.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That conversation happens, and we always say, go ahead and
try it.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Give it a whirl. You're you seem very confident. Go
ahead and give it a shot. See how it works.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Do it five years in a row. Good less.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Say hey to Wesley Snipes while you're there, whomever, famous
actor who didn't pay his taxes.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
If you don't know who that is, that's excellent subtext.
Thank you. We got another tax thing. What was the
one we got?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Anyway, I wanted to get to this one, so we
played this girl yesterday and got quite a minute commentary.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Listen the way she talks here, how many genders are there?
It's a spectrum, so like a lie that makes my
escape crawl. I don't even know how she makes noise?
Is there a name for that kind of talking?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Is that vocal fryar Valley girl or a combo of
the two or I don't know, but yes.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Like you know Asian fusion cooking, it's a couple of
different things going on there. So like Aliyah, wow, Eliah.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It sounds like she's speaking while gargling peanut butter. It's
difficult again, how do you make that noise with your throat?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Well, I have somebody in my orbit who talks that way,
a college aged girl, And it looks hard to do.
It looks like it requires physical effort, Like really I would?
It looks just watching it, it looks like something you
want to do to be in a certain social circle,
like wearing high heels. It'd be like something you want
to do for a while and then you think my
(15:47):
feet hurt, I'm gonna take them off.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
It seems I could be like that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'm I's holding on for a while and then Okay,
I gotta go back to my normal ways as it
hurt my throat.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Something you got this test? Something in tredibly off putting
about that.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, oh god, I would say. I mean even when
you did it, I got that same skin crawling feeling.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
But I'm a high school teacher. As a high school teacher,
guess how many girls talk like that?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
You're right? A lot?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
She throws in the up, talking like asking a question
thing as well, Jeff and San Jose.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
So this is a Bay area high school teacher.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
So I guess if it's gonna be anywhere in the
country where lots of high school girls are talking that way,
it'd be the Bay Area of.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
California, San Fernando Valley. Yeah, she is, play it one
more time.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I so, like Alah, I think we may be in
the presence of Gratnes year. This, this young girl has
managed to incorporate virtually every annoying verbal tick known to
the American mind.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Plus the substance of what she said, because she has
asked how many genders there are?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And she said a lot? So like ali us alike
as well, got aske in there.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're right Yeah, there's a lot of what I wonder what.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
She looked like. Anybody see the video of that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
This is the yo yo ma of annoying speech. God
dang it, sorry about that. I know we annoyed a
lot of people with that clip.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I'm strong and get the reality is is is fabulous.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I thank you. That's enough of that. This is crazy,
That's just what it is. But damn it, we weren't
allowed to ask about the big guys. This is the
United States of America. Got let's not play games.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
A lot of the college kids are sincere about whatever
sub issue they're chanting about, whether it's Israel, Hummas, or
trans rites or what have you. But as we've been
discussing on and off the whole show, it's all about
neo Marxism trying to usher in a Marxist utopia. And again,
if you're just tuning in, I know what you're saying.
Wait a minute, what is like anti racism? Even if
(18:04):
I think Ibram Kenny's a crack pot and Robin DiAngelo
is a moron who leads other morons. What does that
have to do with Marxism? Do you want to do
the super short description of it or well, the economic
version of marketism didn't work. The Frankfurt School, which kicked
off all of this, the geniuses there back in the twenties.
(18:27):
It was basically that, okay, so they had a revolution
in Russia, but why didn't we have one in Germany.
I mean, everybody's unhappy with the economics, but we didn't
have a revolution, and they decided economics is not motivating enough,
so they have to go after every aspect of culture
and tear that down.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Hence critical theory.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's critical of everything and finds ridiculous things to say
that's problematic, and the whole it doesn't matter what you meant,
it's what was received. Is one of the tools of it,
because they can say, oh, what you said there is racist.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
You say, I didn't mean it in a racist way
at all. I met this. That doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
The whole point is to get you on your heels
so they can tear down the system and usher in
their Marxist utopia. They just exploit any division they can find.
Having said that we got this note from al Nanymous.
Might even be a leen anonymous, might be a man,
might be a woman, which, by the way, are the
only two sexes and you can't change it anyway.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Oh bah bah ball.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
This person has worked as a substitute in the Sacramento
School District and holy sh I can't say that. Has
it opened my eyes to the insanity that's going on
in education. This person has kids not far off your
kids age jack, early teens, that sort of thing, And
(19:51):
after seeing the insanity that's going on, we moved my
daughter to private school and my son will be going soon,
keeping in mind he was teaching at Sacramento schools. That's funny,
I got a I can't say that all right, never
mind about it. As a sub I get to see
the real day of what these kids are exposed to,
and it makes me sick, angry, disappointed, really really mad.
(20:14):
I sub all ages K through twelve, and it's bad
across the board. What I've enclosed is only the most
recent example of things I've found in the classroom. This
is perhaps from the best high school in the Sacramento
County Unified School District and is published by the Gay
Straight Alliance and is distributed on campus to the children.
(20:37):
My quick take is that it takes confused and probably
gay teens and sets them on the Marxist path. And
I'll explain how in a second, with things that have
absolutely knew nothing to do with sexuality and conflating issues
in a serious and dangerous way. Anyway, So I thought
this was a beautiful example of what we've been talking about. Okay,
(20:58):
So these are gay kids and they're not sure about
being gay, and they're confused, effeminate boys, butch girls, whatever,
and they bring them into the Gay Straight Alliance.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Okay, So what does the Gay Straight Alliance treat you?
Teach you? All right?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Here's their nine point platform. This is the National Trans
Youth Council. And again this stuff is handed out to
the kids in the Gay Straight Alliance on the campuses
of middle schools, high schools, probably in elementary schools.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Here are your nine points.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
One, we call for the right of self determination and
control of our destinies.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Thomas Jefferson agreed with you. Okay, we're fine.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Two, we call for the abolition of the police, ice borders,
and the judicial system.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Whoa whoa whoa zero to six sties. So they're handing
this out to sixth graders. We call for the abolition
of the police.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So I come to the Gay Straight Alliance and I say,
you know, i'm a young boy, and I actually I
find myself attracted to some of my friends and not
to girls. They say, great, it's abolished the police and
ice that open the borders and abolish the entire judicial system.
And you, as an impressionable youngster, like this is part
of it. Absolutely it is, and you're so special. We're
(22:11):
so glad you came to us. We're so glad we're
gonna help you out. And remember, we got to abolish
the police. So that's that's as quick as that neo
Marxist leap is made.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
This is how it works. There's more. It's a very
small print.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
You can tell they're handing it out to young kids
and not middle aged dudes. Luckily, my eyesat is fantastic.
Point three, we call for an end to disposability politics
and a commitment to transformative justice. I was listening to
NPR over the weekend because it's it's so helpful to
hear the arguments being made on the left, so I
know what I'm here to counter and man, they had
(22:49):
a couple of author checks who'd written a book about
this crap together, and the amount of collegiate style jargon
that comes out of their mouths, they can't tell you
what day it is without collectivists decolonization talk, right, yeah, anyway,
we call for an end of the cisgender heterosexual patriarchy.
(23:13):
We call for decolonization and reparations for all indigenous and
black peoples. Again, I'm a twelve year old boy who
realizes I'm attracted to boys, and you're like, you want
in reparations for all black peoples? What about the ones
who are like running Nigerian or riches can be.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
So the argument, unless you haven't caught onto this on
why you got to disrupt all this stuff is that's
what's keeping the awful system in place. All of these
things cops are keeping the white supremacist, straight white male
world going the way it is. Our border is just
everything that's part of the structure needs to go so
that we can turn it upside down and get the
(23:54):
world where we'll be happy. Somehow, mine, like the last
part of it kind of drifts off to YadA YadA, yadas.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Oh no, well, won't manage that we'll get that done.
Don't worry about it. Marxism will bring in happiness. But
that's why structural is so important. In structural racism. What
they're saying is, Jack, I'm reminded once again of your
wasp infiltration of your roof.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
That one time that knows norrible nightmares.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, but what they're saying is, you can't just replace
the roof.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
You can't just remove the nest.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
The wasps are in the very structure of the house,
or the racism is in every structure of our society. Therefore,
we have to completely tear down society and usher in
a neo Marxist utopia. Let me just finish this real quick.
The nine point Plan. We call for comprehensive education that
reflects our histories and needs. We call for an end
(24:47):
to global white supremacy. We call for land justice and
environmental justice. Again, so you're some kid who Gretituneberg has
really caught your ear, and you're like, oh my god,
we're going to boil a lot, and the seas are
going to drown us, and we're going to boil aand
and so is all wrong, and.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
So my that sounds un well.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yes, as a twelve year old, I would be rather
concerned about it. And so you decide, Okay, my thing
is is climate change. I want to fight against the
oil companies climate change because I'm convinced that it will
kill us all, because they've terrified me as a child.
What do you have in common with the twelve year
old boy who realizes he's attracted to boys, or the
(25:32):
butch girl, or the young black man who's been convinced
that all white people are against him.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
What the hell do you have in common? Really?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Nothing except that these people convince you need to tear
down the United States and Western civilization.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
One. I think there's one more. Yeah, we invite our.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Comrades, accomplices and allies to join us. And then some
of the other things they hand out. We call for
the abolition of Iceberg. That's just kind of detail.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I guess that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
National trans Youth Council, Decolonization reparations.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Further there you go, I know of it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
These are stickers I'm supposed to put on my like
my notebook for school, a sticker on my math book
that says decolonization and reparation for all Indigenous and Black people.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
So Jerry Seinfeld was on every show except Hours that
exists on Planet Earth over the last two weeks, thanks
Jerry promoting his Unfrosted movie, which I watched on Friday
night and thought was pretty damn funny. Bill Burr's portrayal
of John F. Kennedy I thought was really.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Really good, but sef and just thinking about it.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
So Seinfeld was on with Bill Maher over the weekend
on his Sitting in the Basement show for like an
hour and a half talking about things. And Bill Maher
gave Jerry Seinfeld a birthday present. Their friends going way
way back, and Seinfeld just turned seventy, and so Bill
Maher gave him a poster from the nineteen sixty four
(27:03):
World's Fair, which I guess was in New York and
they both were New Yorkers, and it went and it
reminds them.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Of childhood and everything like that.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
And it was this map and they were looking at
the map and they're at the World's Fair. There was
the gem exhibit, and there was the all the different
countries exhibits and everything like that. And I don't remember
which one of them brought up the idea of you
couldn't do that now. You couldn't do that now because
it wre'd be people protesting outside the GM exhibit that
it contributes to climate change, and any of the countries
it'd be claiming cultural appropriation, and this thing over there
(27:32):
would be claiming, you know, that's a homophobic or whatever. Sure,
and Seinfeld said, I thought this was really interesting. He said,
do you remember the comedian he mentioned this comedian You
wouldn't know that I've seen before live.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
But anyway, he had a line from way back in
the day whenever anybody would heckle him, he'd say, I'm sorry, sir,
only only one of us s Geitz a microphone tonight.
And that was his line for Heckler's And Seinfeld said,
that's what has happened, that's what has ruined the world.
Now everybody has a microphone with the Internet and just
you know, everything everything, everybody is a microphone, and now
everything is ruined.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
It's ruined the world. Wow.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
And they both as two old men, just you know,
kind of did the whole shake your head the world
is ruined.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Thing that you do when you get to be old.
But that is absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Everybody got a microphone and everything is ruined. Tell me
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, it's because everybody has decided they deserve a microphone.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
And yes, I understand the irony.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I'm saying this into one, but they think they have
a microphone all the time. And I remember talking about
this when my kids were in high school, which was
longer ago than i'd like to admit, certainly, the older
ones and I would go to their plays and musicals
and stuff like that, and the kids would like shout
from the audience and not heckle exactly, but support or
(28:48):
comment on the action from the audience, like I deserve
some spotlight too. The kids rehearsed for months. Of course,
they were in costume, and they'd memorize their lines they're
up on stage.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
But so many of the kids in the.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Audience thought, no, I get a little attention to tonight,
and nobody did anything about that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
No, no, no. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And I couldn't stand it because it's and maybe it's
because I'm a performer, but the idea of you've done
all of that to get the spotlight and now I'm
gonna get some of that spotlight is you just don't
do that. That's a horrible thing to do, but so
many of the kids felt entitled to do that, getting
(29:35):
really into weeds.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
But it's the ul eleven argument from his book that
I've mentioned many may times about how in the world
now you stand on platforms other people built and try
to take advantage of that for your own needs, which
often destroys the platform. And there's all kinds of examples
of I think that's one there. But the only way
out of the everybody gets a microphone thing is we
(29:57):
got to stop listening to everybody with a microphone.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I guess maybe there is no way out of it.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I don't know, but everybody has a microphone and everything
sucks now.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
And I was shaking.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
I was shaking my head along with the old men,
thinking you're right, everything does suck because everybody has a microphone.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Now, I've got a heavy sought for you. Are you ready, Michael,
Are you ready? Because this is like uranium heavy here?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
All right, this is.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Joe's heavy thought. And I thought we were gonna have
a music for that or something like that.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
No, it's too heavy for music.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Wow, too heavy, too heavy for sound effects? Right right,
this is not a joke.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
People. Western civilization.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Will prove it deserves to survive by surviving, and if
it doesn't deserve to survive, it will not if we
can't save it, we being all of us, probably doesn't
deserve to be saved.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Boy, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Does does does it going away mean it didn't deserve
to survive? If cancer overtakes me? Did I not deserve
to survive because I had a cancer in me?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Decent metaphor?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But I think civilizations work a little differently than cancer.
So well, it's I'm kidding, it's to take it back
to Bill Clinton. What's right with America is strong enough
to fix what's wrong with America?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Is that still true?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Okay, well, y'all I'll be dead by then, but y'all
enjoy whatever follows Western civilization. I'm willing to bet every
dollar I have that it's not better.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It won't be more than two to six hundred years
of misery and poverty.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Or the end of the planet. Yeah, And why the eop?
What I have asked this question? Why would anybody listen
to this radio show?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Well, no travel clearly, I just for saying you're trying
to one up me. I say we got the end
of the civilization here and you say, no, it's the
end of the planet.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Well, all right, all right, fine, Oh no, it's the
end of the universe. The galaxy melt.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I'm Jack Arms, Michael says, I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Thee Armstrong and Getty show, or Jack your show podcasts
and our Hot Lakes, the Armstrong and Getty Show on
Brazil's Copa Cabana Beach.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
One point six million people heading out for the material girl.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
A free Madonna concert to close out her celebration tour.
One point how many million people watched Madonna at this concert?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I free Madonna concert? Why was she jailed?
Speaker 5 (32:32):
I was I've been to outdoor concerts where there was
fifty thousand people there, and I thought, why am I here?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Is?
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I'm watching it on a giant screen from a mile away?
I mean, can I guess so I can claim I
was here? One point two million?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I sentenced you to ten years for elderly skankery.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
It might be a mile away from where she's singing.
Can you say you were at her concert? I guess
it's just a party at that point. Sure, yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh Madonna still super popular south of the Equator.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I'm gonna run through a couple of things here, just
grabbing my notes from the weekend. One note one, I'm
wearing my I accidentally grab my son's suit and it's
too big for me.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
So I feel weird today and my clothes don't fit.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I gotta make sure I get my own clothes which
are smallest enough.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Congress had its lowest ever approval rating at the end
of April thirteen percent. That's the lowest Congress has ever
been in a gallop pole thirteen. It's pretty low. That's
like pulling losing an eye, right, Yeah, some people say,
(33:41):
you know, i'd be bad bezer having one eye.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
This one. Damn.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I mind bothers me all the time. Wow, thirteen And
as always you thirteen percent? What is your standard?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I don't know if you saw the Caitlin Clark highlight
that I tweeted out from her first ever WNBA game
the other night. In the first half her first game ever,
she scored sixteen points for three pointers. My favorite part
was the highlight that I tweeted out. Clearly some girls
were like, Okay, you're in the pros, now, we're gonna
show you what defenses And they were all over her.
She just dribbled around them like a million miles an hour,
(34:15):
got some separation, and nailed along three.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It was awesome. Why it was pretty impressive. It was
pretty impressive. I don't know if that's going to continue
to bring.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Ratings or not.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
One other thing I wanted to mention. I complained about
this all the time. So I was applying for a rental.
So to do that, you got to go to their
website and like sign up for you gotta sign up
for a some website thingy.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
They're portal, they're portal or whatever.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
To even say you'd like to look at the place,
which is highly annoying, and then agree to their terms.
And I thought, okay, for fun. Every once in a
while I do this. I decide to look at what
are the damn terms that I'm agreeing to right here?
It's probably something horrific. And in the middle of the
terms I had a little thing in there. We have
the right to change these terms at any time after
(35:04):
you agree to them.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Now that's a term. So I either can't.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Look at this place or apply for it, or I
have to agree to give you all my information, including
my Social Security number, and your terms are we get
to change the terms whenever we want.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
The terms or whatever we say they are are terms?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Now?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Are we get to sell your social Security number to
Mexicans crossing the border or I don't know what their terms.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Are Russian mom? Yeah, and we have to put up
with them.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
There's gotta somehow laws have to get put in place
of deal with that.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
That's an all timer right there. What might be in
half the stuff I sign? Usually I don't ever look
at the terms. I wonder if that is like standard.
Oh and I was so many pages down.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I mean I scrolled through if it was pages, maybe
ten pages of legal ease before I got to that
one sentence.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
This cannot stand. You would hope not
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